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Iran Says ‘All Options Are on the Table’ if its Nuclear Program is Attacked

Mar. 16, 2013 7:32am Madeleine Morgenstern

A picture dated September 21, 2012 shows a Raad air defense system carrying Taer missiles being displayed by Iran’s Revolutionary Guard, during an annual military parade which marks Iran’s eight-year war with Iraq. (Getty Images)

TEHRAN, Iran (TheBlaze/AP) — The spokesman for Iran’s armed forces says military commanders have been given the authority to respond immediately to enemy attacks.

Gen. Masoud Jazayeri also says Iran keeps “all options are on the table”, language similar to that used by U.S. President Barack Obama to leave open the possibility of military action against Iran’s nuclear program.

Obama told Israel’s Channel 2 TV Thursday that Washington still prefers diplomacy over force, but that a nuclear Iran is a “red line.”

Jazayeri didn’t elaborate. His comments were posted Saturday on sepahnews.com, the website of Iran’s Revolutionary Guard, the country’s most powerful military force.

Obama said Iran is about a year away from developing a nuclear weapon. Tehran denies it is pursuing weapons technology.

Iran’s latest warning comes one month after Supreme Leader Ayatollah Ali Khamenei said the country had “no intention of building” nuclear weapons but that the U.S. couldn’t stop them if they did.

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capitalismrocks
Posted on March 16, 2013 at 4:22pm
If we attack Iran… there won’t be a table left in that “Persian Crater” when we are done, it’ll become Yucca Flats 2.0

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- soybomb315_II
  Posted on March 16, 2013 at 4:56pm
  No, Iraq 2.0
  
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- DSN397
  Posted on March 16, 2013 at 5:17pm
  Your don’t seriously think this administration would nuke them! This bunch of puxxies will keep on sanctioning them until it gets to the point that it tells them “we’re never speaking to you again”, so there.
  It’s like the guy said in Jaws, “they’ll wait until it come up and bites them in the ass”. Probably after Iran strikes Israel Obama will send them a stern letter condemming the strike, then send the last poor bastard still alive in Israel a note saying the hearts and payers of the people of the U.S. are with him.
  Then, due to China and Russia not approving any retaliatory strike on Iran the whole incident will go the way of Benghazi and ground zero in New York City.
  I’m not a democrat by any stretch of the imagination, but if Truman were president it would already be 5000 degrees over there.
  
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- The_Jerk
  Posted on March 16, 2013 at 9:28pm
  Stay out. This is nothing but more pro-Israel propaganda, in another attempt to get America to fight its wars by proxy.
  
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- demsrtraitors
  Posted on March 16, 2013 at 10:47pm
  soybomb315_II what does a coward like you know about Iraq?, besides standing next to your fellow code pink members and spitting on military members who served there.
  
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- soybomb315_II
  Posted on March 16, 2013 at 11:02pm
  @demsrtraitors
  thats good. do like the dems/liberals do and accuse me of things for which i have not done
  
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- onlyhuman
  Posted on March 17, 2013 at 12:49am
  @Capitalism
  Put down to PSP and think logically for a sec. Iran is not Iraq dude and this aint a video game. The enemy shoots back!
  
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- onlyhuman
  Posted on March 17, 2013 at 12:57am
  @DSN397
  
  Last time I checked Iran is a member of NPT and only has a stockpile of 20% enriched uranium which is under UN surveillance. It has not decided to pursue a bomb yet and is years away from a delivery method. Meanwhile, Israel has never joined the treaty, has approximately hundreds of nukes with a credible delivery method. Remind me again, who is a threat to whom?
  
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- mastice
  Posted on March 17, 2013 at 10:40am
  @onlyhuman
  
  True, and true. However… you are still wrong. Why? Because you don’t see the leader of Israel calling for other nations to burn. AND Iran has not been under constant attack since it’s nations birth. It has not been invaded by almost all of it’s neighbors. It has not been denied the right to exist by it’s neighbors.
  
  You really need to take a look back just a few decades to see how completely wrong your assessment is.
  
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- The_Cabrito_Goat
  Posted on March 18, 2013 at 2:46pm
  This goes beyond saber rattling. This is cocking and aiming a loaded weapon at Israel’s head.
  
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Soulfire1975
Posted on March 16, 2013 at 4:17pm
Iran is wrong, I mean just think of that statement.

The option to build Nukes would be OFF the table.

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TheBurningTruth
Posted on March 16, 2013 at 3:50pm
While both Barry and the Persians say, “All options are on the table” there is one big difference:

When push comes to shove, all our options will still be on the table because Barry is a chickenshot that won’t use them. The Persian side of the table will be empty as they WILL use their options.

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crusaderx9
Posted on March 16, 2013 at 3:25pm
You could NOT have been more WRONG than Obama was on Iran, North Korea, Missile Defense…

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Skee
Posted on March 16, 2013 at 1:23pm
If their nuclear program is taken out, doesn’t that mean their options have been reduced. So all options aren’t on the table.

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- RabidPatriot
  Posted on March 16, 2013 at 3:22pm
  If Israel is heading the operation, they will break the table and burn it to cinders. If President Obama is heading the operation, he will just strike a few buildings for show and just stir up the hornets nest.
  
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watashbuddyfriend
Posted on March 16, 2013 at 12:50pm
Does Iran have the God Shield, like Israel? No1

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MrKnowItAll
Posted on March 16, 2013 at 12:36pm
I can Tell you the Iranian Race will go on. We got enough of them out. Just come to Dearborn or Hamtramck, Michigan. Believe me. Iranians will survive. Time to turn the Desert into the Desert.

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- onlyhuman
  Posted on March 17, 2013 at 12:51am
  Dude, you are so ignorant that its revolting. Iranians are persians and not arabs and not one of them live in dearborne. Better check yourself before you wreck yourself.
  
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No_More_War_Please
Posted on March 16, 2013 at 12:16pm
Whenever the warmongering republicans (or democrats) for that matter say “all options are on the table”, that usually means that they plan to use military action. If they say that it is a possibility, that usually means it is an inevitability.

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- Walkabout
  Posted on March 16, 2013 at 12:22pm
  Peacenik Redux
  
  It wasn’t a Republican or a Democrat who said it. Read carefully & please take your pill.
  
  “all options are on the table” -Gen. Masoud Jazayeri
  
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- watashbuddyfriend
  Posted on March 16, 2013 at 12:53pm
  Ok, Dr. No_More,
  
  There shall be ‘wars and rumors of war ’til I come.’
  
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- No_More_War_Please
  Posted on March 16, 2013 at 1:00pm
  He was repeating Obama’s and Romney’s lines verbatim, doofas.
  
  “When I’m consulting with Bibi, as I have over the last several years on this issue, my message to him will be the same as before: If we can resolve it diplomatically that is a more lasting solution,” Obama said in the interview. “But if not,” he added, “I continue to keep all options on the table.”
  http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/politics/2013/03/obama-iran-a-year-away-from-nuclear-weapon/
  
  Mitt Romney, speaking with NBC’s “Meet the Press” (September 9, 2012): “The president has not drawn us further away from a nuclear Iran. In fact, Iran is closer to having a weapon, closer to having nuclear capability than when he took office. We need to use every resource we have to dissuade them from their nuclear path. But that doesn’t mean that we would take off the table our military option. That’s something which certainly every American would hope we would never have to use. But we have to maintain it on the table or Iran will, undoubtedly, continue their treacherous course.”
  http://cipnationalsecurity.wordpress.com/resources/candidate-quotes/
  
  Care to walk back your comment there dummy?
  
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- Walkabout
  Posted on March 16, 2013 at 2:53pm
  No, I am not walking it back& I certainly don’t have to given your track record & guiding philosophy.
  
  A person like Romney has to communicate to the electorate that he is willing to go all the way & not send a SEXretary of State to places like North Korea with autographed basketballs. After the basket ball, the free oil, the free food, and 2 light water reactors, we got jacked. And not just once. It just keeps repeating itself.
  
  And you come here periodically saying “It Hurt so Good. Do it again.” Jack us again.
  
  I am all very well in letting you letting yourself be abused. But I do not want to be a partner in that abuse.
  
  http://www.armscontrol.org/factsheets/agreedframework
  
  So after all that Diplomacy by those t_rds at Foggy Bottom what have we got? And you want to give free reign to those t_rds in other parts of the world?
  
  They sure as heII solved all the Problems ion Sudan! NOT! __R__!
  
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- No_More_War_Please
  Posted on March 16, 2013 at 6:05pm
  So how about we just cut off the freebies and quit meddling in the affairs of other nations. That sound like a good idea to you?
  
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- soybomb315_II
  Posted on March 16, 2013 at 8:44pm
  100% non-aggression…..And if a country is wronged – we can talk about justified force
  
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- mastice
  Posted on March 17, 2013 at 10:47am
  @No_More_War_Please
  ((So how about we just cut off the freebies and quit meddling in the affairs of other nations. That sound like a good idea to you?))
  
  This message approved by: Neville Chamberlain.
  
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- No_More_War_Please
  Posted on March 18, 2013 at 7:44pm
  Mastice,
  
  If you really want to stop Iran’s nuclear program, by all means, sell your home and your possessions, kiss your friends and loved one’s goodbye, and go over and fight them yourself. Just don’t expect others to jump at the chance to perish because of your stupid, ridiculous, presupposed notion. If you left, I guarantee, there are not many who would miss you.
  
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Uechi
Posted on March 16, 2013 at 11:54am
For now idle threats against a West that has nukes. Once Iran has nukes and can deliver them it is a whole different story. Don’t believe the US wil do anything but talk when it comes to Irans nuke program. The same bull crap they pulled when North Korea was developing the bomb. Surprise N Korea has the bomb. The big difference is Israel is not going to allow Iran to have nukes. For Israel to do so would be to seal their extermination.

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- onlyhuman
  Posted on March 17, 2013 at 1:03am
  Utter b.s. Iran is not an existential threat to Israel (at least not militarily). Israel has far superior military machine and has hundreds of nukes, Iran none so what gives. At least if Iran did have Nukes the principle of MAD would ensure more stability. The problem is that Israel realizes that once Iran obtains nukes, it can no longer project its power on the region unchecked. Unfortunately most Americans are too stupid to realize this and are led like a dog on a leash to defend someone else’s yard.
  
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- mastice
  Posted on March 17, 2013 at 10:55am
  @onlyhuman
  
  Again, I am going to point out that someone needs to look back just a few short decades to understand why Israel must “project force” as you put it. Name me another nation in the world that is condemned, by people like you, for defending themselves when attacked? What other nation in the world has been denied the right to exist by it’s neighbors? What other country has been under constant aggression by each and every neighbor?
  
  I don’t presume to know where or how you live, but let’s just say for a moment that every person on your block suddenly bought guns and started shooting at your house. Or they were sitting on their front porches, cleaning their guns, telling everyone who walked by they were going to visit your house in the night. What would you do?
  
  You would find ways to defend yourself, even if that meant buying a bigger gun… or striking them first. In my opinion people like you are completely ignorant armchair hypocrites, because if you lived under the constant threat that Israel does you would be doing the same thing they are. But you don’t live that way – you live in a (relatively) safe home.
  
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BlackCrow
Posted on March 16, 2013 at 11:27am
It is perfectly acceptable to lie to the infidel to advance Islam.

Nuke ‘em!

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- TIME_2_END_THE_PAUL_CAMPAIGN_IN_12
  Posted on March 16, 2013 at 11:29am
  Taqiyya…
  
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- AUsername
  Posted on March 16, 2013 at 12:37pm
  its that way with all religions because there all lies.
- Fubared
  Posted on March 16, 2013 at 4:00pm
  A User still praying to your stems and seeds? All A Users should assemble in Kalifornia to make it easier. Gotta be Windydualism huh? Same crap.
  
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- Zipit
  Posted on March 16, 2013 at 10:06pm
  Abuser! Call us back again, when you graduate sixth grade!
  
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zoro51
Posted on March 16, 2013 at 11:25am
iran n syria plus others your fates SEALED as u come against isreal see the lord WIPE YOU OUT… pity you NO HELL shall taste your flesh

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- onlyhuman
  Posted on March 17, 2013 at 1:06am
  Zionists, God will strike down upon you with great vengeance and furious anger for attempting to poison and destroy his brothers. And you will know my name is the Lord when I lay my vengeance upon thee…. lol!
  
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The-Monk
Posted on March 16, 2013 at 11:15am
That black and white symbol on the mobile missile launcher looks photo shopped in.

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- Rayblue
  Posted on March 17, 2013 at 12:43am
  It reads; “Hot Wheels”…
  
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The Former Happy Chimpy
Posted on March 16, 2013 at 10:59am
Two SSBN’s, one just off the coast of Iran, the other off the coast of North Korea. Two simultaneous submerged nuke MIRV launches: Iran > NorK, NorK > Iran. Then we say “Oh my goodness! Look at what they have went and done!” “Must have been a lovers’ quarrel”

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- Walkabout
  Posted on March 16, 2013 at 12:32pm
  It has been tried before.
  
  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Soviet_submarine_K-129_(1960)
  
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509Ptrooper
Posted on March 16, 2013 at 10:28am
The Bilderburgs want WWIII to be nuclear to cleanse the earth of “over population” and what better place to start it than the Middle East. Another factor to explore is that there have been signs that some Iraq, Iran and Libya were forming a gold backed Dinar to replace the defunct US dollar as the reserve currency; of course China has their hand in this too. Follow the money folks. Saber rattling isn’t going to change the situation; exposure will. Once you shine a light (God’s) on these rats they will scurry off and hide. The problem with rats is they procreate and they are always scrambling to get the cheese.

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- soybomb315_II
  Posted on March 16, 2013 at 11:44am
  yes. Also look into “petrodollar” and its connection to the conflicts in the middle east.
  
  question with boldness
  
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- Walkabout
  Posted on March 16, 2013 at 12:19pm
  Yes, question the petro-dollar. I dare you.
  
  Go ZeroHedge.com & question the concept of reserve currencies. Reserve currencies are as natural as the concept & fact of currency itself. It happens. It will always happen. Sol could go Nova & if there was life somewhere else, they will have currencies & reserve currencies.
  
  All the Bilderbergers would have to do to cull population is to stop creating foundations that find cures for diseases & promulgate health care. They could also let 2 or 3 large regions get involved in wars & not try to stop it. They would be doing things like sending Sally Struthers to an old folks home or telling Bill Gates to wind down his foundation and to buy expensive yachts. I am not buying it.
  
  I was reading a copy of Foreign Policy by the CFR on reserve currency.
  
  “The Dollar and the Deficits”
  
  By C Fred Bergsten
  
  The dollar not being the reserve currency might be good. It is the reserve currency status that allowed the MFers in Congress to deficit spend. Per Keynes, deficit spending is good during bad times. But during good times you have to have surplus. Well if Congress is following Keynes advice they must be saying that we have had 50 or more bad years.
  
  I am not on board with the whole special drawing rights. It sound like another way to deficit spend by people who think they know what is best about everything but especially investment.
  
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- KidCharlemagne
  Posted on March 16, 2013 at 12:31pm
  soybomb315_II
  Posted on March 16, 2013 at 11:44am
  Also look into “petrodollar” and its connection to the conflicts in the middle east.
  ====================================
  
  “Shortly after taking the treasury post, Connally famously told a group of European finance ministers worried about the export of American inflation that the dollar “is our currency, but your problem.”
  Secretary of the Treasury (1971): John Connally
  
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- Walkabout
  Posted on March 16, 2013 at 12:47pm
  KidCharlemagne
  
  I like the quote. A year or two ago the leftists were crowing about how monetizing the debt was not being about inflation and that we were wrong. Well inflation was exported.
  
  Although if you calculated inflation here it was higher than what the government liars at the BLS said it was.
  
  Covered “chain CPI” & all the other stuff in a Highs school Freshman economics course. And yet the F_____s still insist on lying to us. They are like what are you going to do about it. They have the media, the mob, DHS & staff psychiatrists.
  
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- KidCharlemagne
  Posted on March 16, 2013 at 1:07pm
  Walkabout
  Posted on March 16, 2013 at 12:47pm
  Well inflation was exported.
  =================
  
  It’s still being exported though:
  
  —————————————
  “Continental currency depreciated badly during the war, giving rise to the famous phrase “not worth a continental”. A primary problem was that monetary policy was not coordinated between Congress and the states, which continued to issue bills of credit. “Some think that the rebel bills depreciated because people lost confidence in them or because they were not backed by tangible assets,” writes financial historian Robert E. Wright. “Not so. There were simply TOO MANY of them.” Congress and the states lacked the will or the means to retire the bills from circulation through taxation or the sale of bonds.”
  American Revolution: “Not Worth A Continental…..”
  
  MarketWatch (Jan. 14, 2013): “Bernanke downplays inflation risk of QE3″
  
  Only the American military is stopping all that inflation from returning….
  
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- Walkabout
  Posted on March 16, 2013 at 2:59pm
  “not worth a continental” I have heard of that phrase before.
  
  I have also read the the good citizens of Havana, Cuba met the payroll for the Continental army at one point. They took up a collection.
  
  I wish the younger and elder Pitt had prevailed. We would have had representation in Parliament. No need for a war. But some people are too interested of crapitalism. Mercantislim is a from of crapitalism. It was practised in India & china by the British crapitalists to great effect.
  
  Some British Lords & Merchants did not capital formation or industries in America or India. That sure turned out well.
  
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barber2
Posted on March 16, 2013 at 10:15am
Aren’t you glad that Obama was elected to prove how crazy Bush’s label of ” The Axis Of Evil ” really was ?? Now hasn’t Obama’s stellar foreign policies made us and the entire world safer since that mean, grumpy, old white capitalist Bush left the scene ?! Our Lefties are just so brilliant …

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- KidCharlemagne
  Posted on March 16, 2013 at 10:28am
  “The people are uninformed, and would be misled by a few designing men.”
  -Elbridge Gerry, Constitutional Convention, July 19, 1787
  
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- pauli101
  Posted on March 16, 2013 at 10:28am
  Let us mind our own business here at home, instead of poking our nose everywhere around the world.
  
  We are bankrupting ourselves.
  
  As Israel is becoming stronger in wealth, power, hi-tech, territory, America is becoming weaker. The more Aid we give to Israel, the more debt we get.
  
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- soybomb315_II
  Posted on March 16, 2013 at 10:29am
  Yea!
  
  “all options are on the table”…..To hell with any country that repeats what we say!!!
  
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- barber2
  Posted on March 16, 2013 at 10:42am
  Hey, kids, know what ? All of your comments were being said right before Pearl Harbor ! Sometimes trouble comes looking for you. Everyone wanted to avoid that nasty ” European” Hitler war. But their Japanese allies paid us a “visit ” in Pearl Harbor. Almost wiped out our Navy. Will we survive another surprise ” visit” with the weaponry available today ?
  
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- No_More_War_Please
  Posted on March 16, 2013 at 12:20pm
  Lol, the warmongering R’s and D’s in office saying “all options are on the table” translates to “it’s only a matter of time before we us military force on this country”.
  
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- No_More_War_Please
  Posted on March 16, 2013 at 12:22pm
  Yes, Barber, because you can definitely equate Iran’s military capabilities (no air force or navy) with that of the Japan’s in WWII.
  
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- Walkabout
  Posted on March 16, 2013 at 12:41pm
  pauli101
  
  Israel gets what? 3 billion or so a year? That is not bankrupting us. It is 1/10th of 1%.
  
  But you want to stop it? Fine, but only if aid to Egypt is also stopped . It is also given 1.3 billion a year under the Camp David Peace Accords.
  
  From 1979 (the year of the peace agreement) to 1997, Egypt received military aid of US$1.3 billion annually, which also helped modernize the Egyptian military.[18] (This is beyond economic, humanitarian, and other aid, which has totaled more than US$25 billion.) Eastern-supplied until 1979, Egypt now received American weaponry such as the M1A1 Abrams Tank, AH-64 Apache gunship and the F-16 fighter jet. In comparison, Israel has received $3 billion annually since 1985 in grants and military aid packages.[19]
  
  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Camp_david_accords#Terms_of_the_agreements
  
  Since Egypt has violated the accord & will continue to do so lets stop all money. Then we can bring forward the date of world wide hostilities. Tired of waiting anyway.
  
  This way we can know the date of the start with greater precision.
  
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IndyGuy
Posted on March 16, 2013 at 10:00am
We’ve got thousands of nukes…We’ve got N.Korea and Iran threatening us……What the hell are we saving all those nukes for???

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- onlyhuman
  Posted on March 17, 2013 at 1:10am
  To stick it up your behind. I am ashamed to call you my countryman!
  
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- IndyGuy
  Posted on March 17, 2013 at 4:06pm
  Uh….You are a wimpy lefty I assume….Go pi$$ up a rope…
  
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- IndyGuy
  Posted on March 17, 2013 at 4:12pm
  P.S. @onlyhuman….I see you just showed today to spread your vile commie crap…So who are you from the past that got booted for being an ass???
  
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Southernsoul
Posted on March 16, 2013 at 9:45am
Does that include The Mother of All Wars, kinda like Iraq? You know, one of those wars where it takes longer to process the prisoners than the actual war took.

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KidCharlemagne
Posted on March 16, 2013 at 9:42am
Apparently, Iran isn’t the only one who believes that “all options are on the table”:

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“One can combine other means of pressure with sanctions. I mentioned that explosion on August 17th. We could step up the pressure. I mean look people, Iranian submarines periodically go down, some day one of them might not come up, who would know why? We can do a variety of things if we wish to increase the pressure… We are in the game of using covert means against the Iranians. We could get nastier.”
Business Insider: “Lobbyist Says Israel Should Create A ‘False Flag’ To Start A War With Iran”

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Snowleopard {gallery of cat folks}
Posted on March 16, 2013 at 9:37am
All options are on the table and we have a worthless, cowardly traitor in the White House who refuses to seal the borders and terrorists of Hamas and Hezbollah in the United States as sleeper agents ready to hit when Iran gives the go word….

Am I the only one seeing the immense disaster we face in the near future under the continuing idiocy of Obama?

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- civilwarcometh
  Posted on March 16, 2013 at 9:44am
  Yep.. CONGRESSMEN GOHMERT, KING, AND INHOFE PRESENTED WITH PROOF OF OBAMA’S IDENTITY FRAUD IN PERSON…
  IF THEY FAIL TO ACT, THEY ARE TREASON CONSPIRATORS.
  
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- TIME_2_END_THE_PAUL_CAMPAIGN_IN_12
  Posted on March 16, 2013 at 9:45am
  “Am I the only one seeing the immense disaster we face in the near future under the continuing idiocy of Obama?”
  
  Clear-thinkers (except for Liberals and their enablers… Libertarians) knew what Obama was long before his present and continuing idiocy.
  
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- AUsername
  Posted on March 16, 2013 at 12:39pm
  Bush 2.0 basically
  
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jakartaman
Posted on March 16, 2013 at 9:19am
Not a big deal – So a crazy fanatical government in the most chaotic part of the world get nuclear bombs. They want to wipe out, and have said so in unambiguous words, the only democratic country (Israel).
This is not to mention that they could and will hold the region/world hostage over oil.
So all you Chamberlain’s and American haters need to pull your heads out of your rear orofice.

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- onlyhuman
  Posted on March 17, 2013 at 1:19am
  Not a big deal – So a crazy fanatical government in the most chaotic part of the world get nuclear bombs. They want to wipe out, and have said so in unambiguous words, the only democratic country (Israel).———————–> They are fanatical but never said wipe Israel off the map, rather Zionism (which is a political affiliation) from the pages of time. Also, don’t make me laugh with Israel and Democracy.
  This is not to mention that they could and will hold the region/world hostage over oil.—————–>only if their survival is threatened you idiot. What do you expect them to do. let the enemy get the oil they need for their war machine?
  So all you Chamberlain’s and American haters need to pull your heads out of your rear orofice.——————> look in the mirror
  
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jakartaman
Posted on March 16, 2013 at 9:10am
All options are on the table.
This includes but not limited to the following:
- Camel dung filled hand grenades
- Burka clad secret agent infiltrators
- Border bull horns blasting calls to prayer
- Billions of sand fleas unleashed
- Goose stepping red guard soldiers screaming Ala Akbar

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- STREBOR
  Posted on March 16, 2013 at 11:42am
  And; those scud spitting camels!
  
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- onlyhuman
  Posted on March 17, 2013 at 1:14am
  Add to that a nice stream of Golden shower specially poured for your drinking pleasure.
  
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Sargeking
Posted on March 16, 2013 at 8:34am
Our foreign policy posture stipulates that there is never a last word in diplomacy. We can easily say that and slip safely away to bed because Iran doesn’t have a missile (as yet) that will deliver a nuclear bomb at our doorstep. Of course, that precludes them sending one over on a freighter from Hell. On the other hand, Israel is well in-range for a missile strike. To be prudent and wise, Israel had better get Iran before Iran gets them. If that happens, get prepared stateside for $40.00 a gallon gas. In retrospect because Mr. Obama forbids our energy independence via the Keystone Pipeline and fracking for natural gas. Him and the Green Weenies are the bane of America! God help us, our government won’t.

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justangry
Posted on March 16, 2013 at 7:50am
How dare they not cower in fear at beat of our war drums? Did we attempt the “I am rubber and you are glue” style of diplomacy?

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- soybomb315_II
  Posted on March 16, 2013 at 8:09am
  sounds like Iran is pursuing “peace through strength”
  
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- netmail
  Posted on March 16, 2013 at 8:21am
  “All options are on the table”. Hey, you stole our line Iran.
  
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- Eastinfection
  Posted on March 16, 2013 at 8:51am
  “In the councils of government, we must guard against the acquisition of unwarranted influence, whether sought or unsought, by the military-industrial complex. The potential for the disastrous rise of misplaced power exists, and will persist.”
  
  -Eisenhower
  
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- TIME_2_END_THE_PAUL_CAMPAIGN_IN_12
  Posted on March 16, 2013 at 9:14am
  INFECTION. Eisenhower also said in the same breath…
  
  “We recognize the need for this development,” something a lot of people citing the speech tend to forget. He explained in the address itself why the permanent arms industry was necessary. He said… ’A vital element in keeping the peace is our Military establishment. Our arms must be mighty, ready for instant action, so that no potential aggressor may be tempted to risk his own destruction. Until the latest of our world conflicts, the United States had no armaments industry. American makers of plowshares could, with time and as required, make swords as well. But now we can no longer risk emergency improvisation of national defense… we have been compelled to create a permanent armaments industry of vast proportions.’ In other words, because of advances in technology, Military research must be on-going. (And that is especially true today.)
  
  Furthermore INFECTION, those who cherry pick this line out of his speech may give one the mistaken idea that Ike blamed the USA for the Cold War. From his farewell address (referring to communism)… “We face a hostile ideology global in scope, atheistic in character, ruthless in purpose, and insidious in method.” So in other words (from his p.o.v.) the USA was hardly the aggressor nation in the Cold War. And he went on to say that the challenge they posed had to be met.
  
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- Eastinfection
  Posted on March 16, 2013 at 9:33am
  TIME2…
  
  I am familiar with the whole speech and agree with the general assessment Eisenhower makes in it.
  I also know Eisenhower was fond of warning people that war, itself, can become a self-propagating machine if not checked vigorously.
  I think it’s essential that his advice be heeded, and that we remain hyper-aware of the reasons we go to war in the first place, lest we fight at the behest of corporate interests.
  
  Iran may deserve to feel our might, and it may be necessary to address them militarily as a threat. I don’t know because i’m not privy to the information those who make that decision are.
  
  It’s always important to ask questions that reveal all of the reasons for war.. and not just the obvious justifications.
  
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- TIME_2_END_THE_PAUL_CAMPAIGN_IN_12
  Posted on March 16, 2013 at 9:40am
  INFECTION. By using Eisenhower and distorting his intent (at least in that speech,) you are attempting to supply legitimacy to this untenable hypothesis, due to the fact he would have “inside knowledge” of the situation. This isn’t the typical appeal to authority but ultimately it is and it’s been extraordinary in shaping opinion on the matter.
  
  If you look back at the history of the United States, long before there was a ‘complex’ we intervened in nations or territories outside ours. You can see a pattern of intervention due to national interests (or private interests that the government sees as worth protecting) and due to our own unique ideologies, be it McKinleyan or Wilsonian or Monrovian.
  
  In short INFECTION, there’s a he77 of a lot that can be said about government corruption, excessive expenditures on defense (or any state activity,) foreign policy, the role of ideology (and shifts in those approaches) in our diplomatic and commercial relations and the development of ‘laws of war’ but the incessant braying about Eisenhower’s “warning” is misinformed or deliberately misleading Liberal and Libertarian anti-war propaganda.
  
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- soybomb315_II
  Posted on March 16, 2013 at 9:43am
  there is a difference between defending your country and letting special interests carry your military into every far-flung corner of the world
  
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- RJJinGadsden
  Posted on March 16, 2013 at 9:50am
  Good morning TIME. Good to see you around again. Glad that you attached the rest of that to make the statement full. I can’t blame EASTINFECTION for only using that cherry picked line. It has been picked like that since 1960 to this day. Eisenhower has been misquoted since he made that speech, and it has been reported as such from he left wing media to school text books, and practically anything that we can find on the internet regarding Eisenhower. Frankly, that is just another good reason why we have to do our own research and never just take the word of any of these sources. The Democrats of the day truly hated Eisenhower after they invited him to run for president on their ticket. Then he revealed that he was a Republican.
  
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- TIME_2_END_THE_PAUL_CAMPAIGN_IN_12
  Posted on March 16, 2013 at 9:54am
  SOY. What Eisenhower was warning about, if anything, was the incestuous nature of lobbying, budgeting, bids and awarding contracts and the influence on appropriations, policy, etc. There is nothing to indicate he feared actual foreign policy decisions being based on armament. After all, a company probably makes more money helping the country be ‘prepared’ and not having their equipment fail in real world operations. Our interstate highway system was essentially a defense expenditure in Eisenhower’s mind.
  
  What is also ignored is that he warned about the entanglement of science and government through grants and other funding and how that might corrupt the integrity of scientific endeavor.
  
  Yet another thing not mentioned by those who cite that speech.
  
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- TIME_2_END_THE_PAUL_CAMPAIGN_IN_12
  Posted on March 16, 2013 at 10:02am
  Good Morning RJJ. Yep, Liberal-tarians like EAST sure know how to cherry pick what they need to try and make an isolationist’s point. They even do it with the Founders… tsk, tsk, tsk.
  
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- Eastinfection
  Posted on March 16, 2013 at 10:18am
  TIME2…
  
  You’re argument and mine aren’t mutually exclusive.
  
  I don’t quote Eisenhower to justify pacifism. I quote him because i think it’s important that the justifications for war are relatively transparent.
  
  I mentioned nothing of intervention or non-intervention.
  I’m not a pure non-interventionist. I’m a pragmatist.
  
  I want to feel confident that every one of our soldier’s deaths translate to saving one or more American civilian’s life. Some would describe my foreign policy as American exceptionalism meets utilitarianism… but only regarding the interests of Americans. I have no interest in propagating any sort of Global utilitarianism.
  
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- soybomb315_II
  Posted on March 16, 2013 at 10:18am
  “If tyranny and oppression come to this land, it will be in the guise of fighting a foreign enemy.”
  -James Madison
  
  “The Constitution supposes, what the history of all governments demonstrates, that the executive is the branch of power most interested in war, and most prone to it.”
  -James Madison
  
  “Intelligence gathered by this and other governments leaves no doubt that the Iraq regime continues to possess and conceal some of the most lethal weapons ever devised”
  -George Bush, March 17 2003
  
  I rest my case. You guys know which side of history you are on
  
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- TIME_2_END_THE_PAUL_CAMPAIGN_IN_12
  Posted on March 16, 2013 at 10:19am
  AND RJJ…. that Eisenhower quote is used by another guy the isolationist appologizers from the Liberty Movement like to hang with like-mindedly with… Oliver Stone…. at the beginning of his movie JFK.
  
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- Eastinfection
  Posted on March 16, 2013 at 10:25am
  Also TIME2…
  
  EVERYONE cherry-picks the founders. The founders cherry-picked one another relentlessly. The whole practice of “quoting” someone IS cherry-picking.
  
  I don’t, however, cherry-pick disingenuously ala MSNBC.
  
  I don’t quote anything unless i am confident i understand the context….. unless i’m doing it purposely out-of-context to tease someone like VERCE or MARYBETH.
  
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- TIME_2_END_THE_PAUL_CAMPAIGN_IN_12
  Posted on March 16, 2013 at 10:42am
  SOY. You lost the debate argument before you supposedly ended it with your post. Now go to the aid and comfort station room and help EAST with his INFECTION. Foreign policy in general, Iran and Islam is not for the faint of heart Liberal-tarians.
  
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- TIME_2_END_THE_PAUL_CAMPAIGN_IN_12
  Posted on March 16, 2013 at 10:44am
  INFECTION wrote… “I don’t, however, cherry-pick disingenuously ala MSNBC.”
  
  But you did me boy, but you did…. to make a point…. JUST like MSNBC.
  
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- The-Monk
  Posted on March 16, 2013 at 11:00am
  Morning East,
  
  We all have enough in common that we should be working together and not arguing.
  
  Yet, people like to see the differences over the commonalities.
  
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- Eastinfection
  Posted on March 16, 2013 at 11:07am
  TIME2…
  
  I post a quote, then you make all sorts of inaccurate inferences and assumptions about my intent, and then use those assumptions to paint me as being disingenuous?
  
  lol. nice try.
  why don’t you stick to what i actually say rather than what you project onto my words?
  
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- TIME_2_END_THE_PAUL_CAMPAIGN_IN_12
  Posted on March 16, 2013 at 11:14am
  I did stick to the main point INFECTION, then you went off the rails making excuses and back-tracking the intent of your cherry picked comment.
  
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- Eastinfection
  Posted on March 16, 2013 at 11:14am
  lol Monk… good morning.
  
  You’re right.. but sometimes i just feel like arguing i guess.
  Better to do it with anonymous schizophrenics than with my family…lol ;)
  
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- The-Monk
  Posted on March 16, 2013 at 11:19am
  Hi East,
  
  “Anonymous schizophrenics”… you just described my family. LOL
  
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- Eastinfection
  Posted on March 16, 2013 at 11:30am
  Whatever Time2… You’re entire argument to me has been based on your assumption that my Libertarianism translates to isolationism, when i’m not, and never have been an isolationist.
  You paint all Libertarians with a broad brush.
  All of your foreign policy opinions compliment my position- they don’t refute it. Yo’re not arguing against what i say… you’re arguing against what Ron Paul says.
  NewsFlash: I’m not Ron Paul… and as much as i admire the man- i’ve never voted for him, either.
  
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- resme
  Posted on March 16, 2013 at 11:39am
  @east, Here’s some tunes, :).
  
  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wnk78TTj8to
  
  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=guCku3_pK7Q
  
  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6CRt-h4IrEQ
  
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- TIME_2_END_THE_PAUL_CAMPAIGN_IN_12
  Posted on March 16, 2013 at 11:46am
  INFECTION. You DO seem to be a bit more reasonable than your average Ron Paul Libertarian, but when you cherry pick a quote that is used quite often by Liberals and Libertarians alike as an anti-war / isolationist poke in the eye to Conservatives / Republicans… expect to be taken to task for it. You may not have supported RP…. but you sure are a leaner based on what I’ve read over the months.
  
  I wasn’t surprised when your Libertarian self looked at incest (as an example) as freedom of expression. That is why I lump all Libertarians together as a disgusting bunch of debauched heathens.
  
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- Shasta.Red.Banks
  Posted on March 16, 2013 at 11:47am
  East, Soy, Time2, you guys were having a great debate until it got a little nasty. We need to be capable of having these discussions without retreating into the tactics that the liberals are so fond of. As usual, Monk said it perfectly.
  
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- Eastinfection
  Posted on March 16, 2013 at 11:58am
  TIME2…
  
  Saying that the private behavior of consenting adults is none of my business isn’t the same as referring to incest as “freedom of expression”.
  That’s a qualification i’ve never used because the first amendment has nothing to do with bedroom behavior.
  
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- TIME_2_END_THE_PAUL_CAMPAIGN_IN_12
  Posted on March 16, 2013 at 12:25pm
  MONK and SHASTA. Blessed are the peacemakers… but…
  
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- AUsername
  Posted on March 16, 2013 at 12:30pm
  If anyone attacks Iran they have every right to destroy their attackers.
  
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- No_More_War_Please
  Posted on March 16, 2013 at 12:43pm
  Ya, only ignorant dumbos like TIME2 would believe that non-interventionism equates to “isolationism”. We all know that those two concepts are the exact opposite of one another, but establishment hitmen like TIME2 enjoy spewing absolute nonsense. Lol, there is nothing “isolationist” about encouraging free market trade through peace as opposed to destroying it (along with your economy) through dumb-headed, uneccessary, aggressive military operations.
  
  TIME2, just go stick your head back up Bill Kristol’s **** and keep memorizing your 3×5 card of establishment approved opinion.
  
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- TIME_2_END_THE_PAUL_CAMPAIGN_IN_12
  Posted on March 16, 2013 at 1:10pm
  NO_MORE. You’re now “isolated” and undeserving of any response beyond what you are now getting. Good day to you apologizer for “isolationism.”
  
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- Eastinfection
  Posted on March 16, 2013 at 1:29pm
  Sweet RESME..
  
  my band covers No Quarter! (instrumental only- none of us has the balls to try to sing Plant) Love that tune!
  
  Here’s what i’ve been into lately (rediscovering my Indy records)
  
  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e1uflFzbKS8
  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7NYbojdoAQE
  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=llK2AXF6Dtg
  
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- No_More_War_Please
  Posted on March 16, 2013 at 1:58pm
  Awww, what’s the matter? Is TIME_2ADMIT_YOURE_AN_ESTABLISHMENT_SHILL upset that I made fun of his neocon ****-buddy Kristol?
  
  Just admit it, people who are for intervention in foreign policy are the real isolationists.
  
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- TIME_2_END_THE_PAUL_CAMPAIGN_IN_12
  Posted on March 16, 2013 at 4:39pm
  NO_MORE. The problem is that you use words like dumbos, dummy, dumb-headed. I just can’t seem to really have a debate with you without filling all the space with a long string of LOL’s. If you’re going to insult me boy… BE INSULTING.
  
  Reach down into the void where your ****** should be and type me a manly insult. I can’t respect someone who calls me a dumbo. You may or may not be able to do better… but that’s your problem not mine. The rest of what you write is overshaddowed by your whimpy rhetoric. But that’s par for the course for an isolationist candy @ss.
  
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- soybomb315_II
  Posted on March 16, 2013 at 4:58pm
  See, Time2 gets off on this stuff. sick
  
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- Eastinfection
  Posted on March 16, 2013 at 5:29pm
  What is TIME2′s obsession with “manhood”? lol…
  
  Is THIS “manly” enough for you, TIME?
  
  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=39YUXIKrOFk
  
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- No_More_War_Please
  Posted on March 16, 2013 at 6:03pm
  Perhpas TIME2 is trying to overcompensate for shortcomings in….another area… if you catch my drift.
  
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freenj
Posted on March 16, 2013 at 7:49am
Obama’s lack of foreign policy is putting the World in a very tenuous position.
He had an opportunity a few years back to aid the Iranian student uprising, that never happened.
The only accomplishment Obama has attained is being a fine campaigner.
Leadership is not part of his vocabulary.

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- TIME_2_END_THE_PAUL_CAMPAIGN_IN_12
  Posted on March 16, 2013 at 9:08am
  Obama’s a pretty good Muslim Killer when he makes the decision to take ‘em out one by one by drone. But that would take forever….
  
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- Snowleopard {gallery of cat folks}
  Posted on March 16, 2013 at 9:39am
  Obama’s only idea of ‘leadership’ is to blame everyone he can for his own failures; he has no concept of National Security and I would not be surprised if Iran does hit us, via proxy terror groups, and Obama simply surrenders the USA to them.
  
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- onlyhuman
  Posted on March 17, 2013 at 1:29am
  I agree with you wholeheartedly. Obama missed the boat on that big time. He should have had the balls to help the green movement instead of paying it lip service.
  
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skunkbear
Posted on March 16, 2013 at 7:45am
Iran has every right to an “all options are on the table” military response to an unprovoked attack against its sovereign territory. Every nation has a right to defend itself by all means available.

The moral question is who will be the aggressor. And it will most certainly be amerika/isreal. And it will be unjust. Yet I can hear the chanting now, USA! USA! USA!

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- greggor
  Posted on March 16, 2013 at 7:59am
  Iran’s leaders have vowed to destroy both America and Israel.. does that not fall within the definition of “provoked”?
  If not, oh wise one, do we simply have to lose a city or two, in order to satisfy your well-meaning high standards?
  
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- KickinBack
  Posted on March 16, 2013 at 8:00am
  ♪ Bomb, bomb, bomb…bomb, bomb, Iran..♫
  
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- soybomb315_II
  Posted on March 16, 2013 at 8:15am
  greggor, just so you know – there is no possible way Iran could do either. Even Israel’s military is many times stronger than Iran’s. And if Iran were to unilaterally attack anybody, the whole world would be against them
  
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- TIME_2_END_THE_PAUL_CAMPAIGN_IN_12
  Posted on March 16, 2013 at 8:53am
  USA! USA! USA!
  
  The stench of the “Amerika” hating *****-whipped Liberty movement is strong here. Can you smell that smell…
  
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- TIME_2_END_THE_PAUL_CAMPAIGN_IN_12
  Posted on March 16, 2013 at 9:03am
  SOY. Yo may be a domestic Godess, but you’re no foreign policy expert. The “whole world would be against them?” Lol. There are probably more countries rooting for Iran or even North Korea to pull a nuke trigger than even you can count high.
  
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- greggor
  Posted on March 16, 2013 at 9:34am
  Soy.. I am not saying that Iran even has intercontinental ballistic capabilities, nor am I suggesting that those cities we may lose would even be in our country. How about a strike at one (or more) of our main military facilities over in the middle east? How about Tel Aviv? Not to mention that a smaller, nuclear-laden rocket could be launched off a commercial ship off one of our coasts, and detonated over New York, or wherever.
  As for their “fear” of retaliation? First of all, their “supreme” Islamodope leader has welcomed it, as a signal of their 12th imam’s return. That doesn’t even take into consideration that our own “chosen-one” would react strongly enough, to even prevent similar strikes in the future.
  All things considered, Iran needs to be preemptively prevented from reaching that goal.
  
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- soybomb315_II
  Posted on March 16, 2013 at 9:42am
  well greggor you are proposing something very serious, costly, and tragic for something that has never happened
  
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- TIME_2_END_THE_PAUL_CAMPAIGN_IN_12
  Posted on March 16, 2013 at 9:57am
  SOY. You’re an Islamic appologizer like the rest of the so-called “Liberty Movement” who rooted for Ron Paul’s “Isolationism.” You don’t believe Islam / Iran speaks with forked-tongue?
  
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- RJJinGadsden
  Posted on March 16, 2013 at 10:05am
  SOY, after that last statement TIME has to be right with his Domestic Goddess moniker. Do you just not pay attention to the claims made constantly by Iran, or are you like many I grew up around who thought “that” just could never happen here? The Iranian radicals have hated us since 1978, and likely before. But, that was when they made their first assault on the U.S. Embassy. Even if they are still unable to drop a nuke on our soil yet, they are willing to financially support other radicals to try. No, I am not promoting an attack on Iran willy nilly. But, rather to remain vigilant.
  
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- soybomb315_II
  Posted on March 16, 2013 at 10:09am
  Time2
  “You don’t believe Islam / Iran speaks with forked-tongue?”
  
  Well if you believe islam/iran speak with a forked-tongue, then you believe the opposite of what Iran says, which would mean they are too chicken to do anything. With regards to your “isolation” slander – you sound just like John McCain
  
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- TIME_2_END_THE_PAUL_CAMPAIGN_IN_12
  Posted on March 16, 2013 at 10:15am
  RJJ. Never let it be said that SOY or any other card carrying member of the isolationist pup tent takes the time to look beyond our borders and truly look at the world with other than rose colored glasses… or realistic clarity.
  
  The glasses they would rather possess are the one’s that used to be sold in the back of old comic books. The kind that could claim see through a woman’s clothes. The original TSA agents…. lmao.
  
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- RJJinGadsden
  Posted on March 16, 2013 at 10:19am
  TIME, LOL. Do I ever remember those comic book ads. Even when I was ten, I knew better. Not certain if it has been SOY who has often mentioned Thomas Jefferson here so many time before. But, I bet he would hate that founding father for taking the war to the Barbary Pirates.
  
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- barber2
  Posted on March 16, 2013 at 10:22am
  TIME: Ms. Soy and Company remind me of the Democrats who were ” discussing” issues with Japanese diplomates in D.C…….while the Japanese planes were flying toward Pearl Harbor in the planes that our steel sales had allowed them to make . Sometimes one must be wary. Sometimes one must not trust . Especially true when someone else has said that they intend to wipe you off the face of the map.
  
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- TIME_2_END_THE_PAUL_CAMPAIGN_IN_12
  Posted on March 16, 2013 at 10:31am
  SOY. It is you and the rest of your merry band of Code-Pink sympathizing Ron Paul / Mary Johnson ideological R3volutionaries who best define what being chicken is all about (almost cowardly). I’ll take Iran at it’s ‘left-forked” word…. and it’s not a peaceful pursuit of nuclear energy like you Madea Benjamins would like to believe. But I’m just a warrrrrrr-mongererrrrr.
  
  McCain? I’m still glad I cast my vote for McLame over Obama. No appologies.
  
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- TIME_2_END_THE_PAUL_CAMPAIGN_IN_12
  Posted on March 16, 2013 at 10:36am
  RJJ. Orrrrr…. George Washington’s invasion of Canada…
  
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- Displacedsoutherner
  Posted on March 16, 2013 at 10:40am
  It’s helpful in this case to look critically at the distinction between “assault” and “assault and battery” as it applies to Israel and criminal law.
  
  In legal terms I have assaulted you if I tell you I’m going to cave your skull in and raise a hammer with which to do so. Completing the act is not necessary for me to be guilty of assault and to allow you the right to defend yourself against my assault. Only a fool, or a liberal, would advise you to wait until actually struck to commence a defense.
  
  Where does the situation with Israel vs Iran differ from this scenario?
  
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- TIME_2_END_THE_PAUL_CAMPAIGN_IN_12
  Posted on March 16, 2013 at 10:49am
  BARBER2. Regardless of what SOY has written in the past… I firmly believe him to be a Dem cross-over and a member of Code-Pink for the Leon Trotsky inspired La R3volution.
  
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- RJJinGadsden
  Posted on March 16, 2013 at 10:50am
  TIME, Hell, I should have thought of that right away. One year while stationed at Drum I had to take my squad and the two post 75mm cannons to meet up with re-enactors to an old battleground along Lake Ontario. It was NY and they were not allowed to have period collectible artillery pieces. Spent a good part of the day firing those guns at the Canadian tall ships that kept making passes. The day ended with a great barbecue.
  
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- TIME_2_END_THE_PAUL_CAMPAIGN_IN_12
  Posted on March 16, 2013 at 11:05am
  RJJ. “Spent a good part of the day firing those guns at the Canadian tall ships that kept making passes. The day ended with a great barbecue.”
  
  My kind of party at the squad and platoon level, lol.
  
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- soybomb315_II
  Posted on March 16, 2013 at 11:42am
  Time2
  Lol, first you do your best John McCain “isolation” impersonation….Then you do your best Bill Kristol “code pink” impersonation (http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2013/03/11/conservative-editor-bill-kristol-rips-fearmongering-rand-pauls-kookiness-spokesman-for-the-code-pink-faction-of-the-republican-party/)
  
  You cant call us names all you want but we win the argument
  
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- TIME_2_END_THE_PAUL_CAMPAIGN_IN_12
  Posted on March 16, 2013 at 11:56am
  SOY. When the names “I” call you are accurate… that’s all I care about. I don’t speak for McLame or Kristol and they don’t speak for me. You’re a candy @ss and I make every effort to make sure you are reminded of that fact whenever I come on here.
  
  Between you and JUST, I’ve never read two bigger Code-Pink styled pacifist pw u $ $ i e s than you two. You are an embarrassment to manhood.
  
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- soybomb315_II
  Posted on March 16, 2013 at 12:09pm
  “Between you and JUST, I’ve never read two bigger Code-Pink styled pacifist pw u $ $ i e s than you two. You are an embarrassment to manhood.”
  
  Thanks. Now we know that you lied about all those anti-war protesters, hippies, and commies that you claim to have fought against for all these years.
  
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- Eastinfection
  Posted on March 16, 2013 at 12:34pm
  SOY… lol @ TIME2
  
  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RjF93E4LjlA
  
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- AUsername
  Posted on March 16, 2013 at 12:46pm
  I think we should also increase our missile defense systems on the east coat in-case Israel ever gets done with American and wants to depose of it by ICBMs.
  
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- barber2
  Posted on March 16, 2013 at 1:37pm
  TIME: Agree. There is a fine line between anarchists and Libertarians and think all of these Ron Paul types are members of the Obama anarchists . They have much more in common with the Left than the right: capitalism, military, the police, mom and dad, Israel, and religion are all things that they love to hate . Just like the Obama radicals.
  
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- Walkabout
  Posted on March 16, 2013 at 3:29pm
  soybomb315_II
  greggor, just so you know – there is no possible way Iran could do either
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  Just so you know leaders have often misjudged their opponents capabilities, intent & determination. Wars have begun that way. Obviously some people do not see things the same way as you. Like the Russian academic who believe that U.S. will break into regions. Much easier to do if the U.S. gets nuked. Will one or 6 nukes destroy the U.S. WHOLE population? No. But it could out such a dent in it that the Russian academic could be right.
  
  Honestly Soy you have no clue how much damage 1 nuke could do to the U.S. in terms of destruction. Could you do something so simple as do fallout calculations? I doubt it. I could.
  
  An EMP attack would be worse. I think you have no fear, because you have no clue.
  
  Ya, you could wipe out the U.S. with 1 nuke. Not all the people, but would would be left would not constitute the U.S. It might not even constitute 1 nation.
  
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- soybomb315_II
  Posted on March 16, 2013 at 3:40pm
  fear is no excuse when your military is 100 times stronger than them.
  
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- Fubared
  Posted on March 16, 2013 at 4:02pm
  Tofu who really cares as long as there is bacon and lots of pork products left on the table at the end of the day?
  
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- skunkbear
  Posted on March 16, 2013 at 4:28pm
  GREGGOR, “Iran’s leaders have vowed to destroy both America and Israel.. does that not fall within the definition of “provoked”?
  If not, oh wise one, do we simply have to lose a city or two, in order to satisfy your well-meaning high standards?”
  
  Do not believe the war propaganda machine. Do you know who is Iran’s real leader? Do you know who Kermit Roosevelt was? Do you know any of the history between Iran and amerika?
  
  Iran does not wish to destroy amerika; it wishes, like many other countries, to have the USA stop meddling in its internal affairs.
  
  This war is coming and it is not about Iran’s nuke program. It is about Iran’s attempt to break away from the US petro – dollar so that it can sell its oil for something with real value like gold, silver or other metals and other currencies. This is precisely why Libya was attacked as well. And why Syria is being attacked now.
  
  The banksters want total control and are going to sic amerika’s military on any country that does not want to be under their system.
  
  Those lusting for war with Iran need to understand that the war could – and probably will – spread quickly throughout the world. And amerika is no longer a superpower and will loose big in a world war.
  
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- Walkabout
  Posted on March 16, 2013 at 6:34pm
  100 times bigger aye?
  
  Rebuttal
  1. Asymmetric warfare
  2. Purchasing power parity.
  3. China & others do not have to spend as much money on R & D, they steal. it. They stole the complete plans for the J35 which has not flown yet. Does China have histrionic basket cases like Private manning?
  
  And you still do not get or refuse to admit the power of an EMP attack. Or what happens when more that 1 major city is without lights/power for more than 3 days? Could law & order be restored in if the lights went out in our 10 largest cities simultaneously? If it was not, many people would die.
  
  Consider the iceberg that sank the Titanic. It did not have to rip open enough compartments to make the ship negatively buoyant. It just had to rip open enough compartment to start progressive flooding. The same can happen to a nation. You’re not a systems person. Maybe you should pick up a book or go back to school.
  
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- Walkabout
  Posted on March 16, 2013 at 6:45pm
  skunkbear
  - The protests 2 years ago were started by the banksters.
  - The Uzbek, Chechnyan, Libyan & Al Qaeda jihadis are there at the behest of the banksters.
  - The Qataris Specials forces & the Saudi Money is there at the banksters. I know this last one because I say the room in Goldman Sachs where they wind up the Saudi princes & program them. They still use punch cards believe or not.
  
  There are a lot of banksters that need to go on trial and need life sentences and/or capital punishment such as over leveraging & buying politicians & money laundering for drug cartels. But they did not start the uprising. Al Qaeda & other jihadis are come of their own accord. etc.
  
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- soybomb315_II
  Posted on March 16, 2013 at 6:54pm
  Walkabout
  
  i do not mind your arguments and i generally try to respond fairly to you. I will respond to your EMP/power/whatever scenario….
  
  You worry alot about what could happen. It is certainly a possibility, though this world has not seen in on that kind of scale. But here is the important thing……I believe our country is headed for a monetary/fiscal/food/law/morality collapse that will occur in the general same time period. When a couple of these things hit, it will have the effect of sending us back hundreds of years. So, I am not wanting to have a hundred thousand of our soldiers die/wounded (and spend trillions) in order to POSSIBLY prevent something that i think is going to happen anyways. Do you see what i am talking about?
  
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