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Mar. 17, 2013 5:20pm Mytheos Holt

Washington Post columnist George Will described this weekend’s Conservative Political Action Conference (CPAC) as more or less a coming out party for libertarian conservatives on today’s edition of ABC’s “This Week.” In a panel discussion with temporary co-host Martha Raddatz, Will skewered media reports of division and in-fighting at CPAC, instead suggesting that a healthy discussion was giving rise to a more libertarian minded Republican party.

The Daily Caller reports:

“Republicans have been arguing — social conservatives and libertarian free-market conservatives — since the 1950s, when the National Review was founded on the idea of the fusion of the two,” he continued. “It has worked before with Ronald Reagan. It can work again. What I did see at CPAC was the rise of the libertarian strand of Republicanism, which has an affected foreign policy that is a pullback from nation-building and other ambitions aboard that they never countenance from government at home, and a sense of ‘live and let live’ with subjects such as decriminalization of certain drugs and gay marriage.”

Will also doubled down on earlier comments he had made suggesting that opposition to gay mariage both in the GOP and in America generally is dying. In response to a question from Raddatz about Ohio Republican Sen. Rob Portman’s newly announced support for gay marriage, and whether it would signal a broader shift, Will made virtually the same comment.

“He will not be the last, because the demographic tide here is large, powerful and inexorable,” Will said. “As I said on this program before, opposition to gay marriage is literally dying. It’s an older demographic.”

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shorelineliz
Posted on March 18, 2013 at 1:09am
Libertarianism Is A Fundamentally Flawed Ideology
by Eric Zuesse of Business Insider

When success (and independence) itself is admired, regardless of how it is won, then the result becomes what the philosopher Thomas Hobbes called “the state of nature,” in which there is “continual fear, and danger of violent death; and the life of man, solitary, poor, nasty, brutish, and short.”

This is what results when everyone places (individual) success above fairness or any other ethical objective. Some people call this “state of nature” “libertarianism,” or “anarchy,” and they think that this might-makes-right society is the ideal form of “government” (no government at all), towards which the world should strive.

It’s too dangerous to trust strangers in such a society. Furthermore, contempt for cheaters imposes ethical rules that remove the state of nature, and that replace it with the imposed ethical order.
This is the problem that libertarian believers must wrestle with, if they are at all serious, instead of just ideological kooks.

So, rejecting government solves nothing. It’s like rejecting food: The real issue isn’t to reject food, it’s to eat healthful food, and to avoid poisonous food. Similarly, the real issue isn’t to reject government, it’s to support good government, and to oppose bad government.

The issue isn’t whether government should be “small,” or “big,” but rather that it should be the best size for the pub
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- Libertarian B 4 Libertarians Were Cool
  Posted on March 18, 2013 at 1:17am
  Clearly you know very little about Libertarianism. You speak of the anrachist libertarians which are a small minority. Most libertarians believe in minimal government confined to the specific dictates of the constitution, and nothing more.
  
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- soybomb315_II
  Posted on March 18, 2013 at 7:57am
  All the issues are really simple when you open the constitution or read the founders. There is no need to get into the weeds like shorelineliz and worry about strawman arguments….Its like trying to fix the radio when the car is about to go off the cliff
  
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- SocialistSlayer
  Posted on March 18, 2013 at 8:50am
  Spoken like a true Communist – Liz !
  
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- JohnofOregon
  Posted on March 18, 2013 at 10:19am
  Shorelineliz
  
  Spoken like a pure communist. Government is the center of your
  Life.
  
  Government is “food” that sustains you. Is this like the word of God being the food that sustains billions?
  
  That’s what you will never understand about liberty and individualism. If your placing government above the individual than you have failed to understand why the US was created. The founders set out to create a government to serve the liberty of man and not the state. All other forms of government are man serving the liberty of the state.
  
  I myself am not a full blown libertarian, but the idea is what the US was based on. All things blossom under liberty and freedom. That is why when you look around you see America on the decline. Less liberty and freedom taken at the hand of government always leads to death and misery.
  
  That is communism.
  
  Quoting Hobbes is not exactly a sure sign of intelligent human insight either.
  
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- GhostOfJefferson
  Posted on March 18, 2013 at 12:16pm
  You keep being corrected on this, and you continue to post misinformation.
  
  When an honest person is confronted with a fact that goes against his beliefs, he either changes his beliefs, or he ceases to be honest.
  
  Your call, Shorelineliz.
  
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- Priscilla King
  Posted on March 18, 2013 at 12:56pm
  As you’re seeing, ShorelineLiz, there’s a spectrum of “libertarian” opinions. Libertarians differ from anarchists in that libertarians (no party affiliation implied) want to maintain enough government to resolve disputes among citizens and administer such services as citizens want to provide. The position of the Libertarian Party has been that government should prosecute crimes only when there are complaining victims. Most party members have traditionally said that drugs and prostitution are victimless crimes, and some uphold a “right” to pollute; I would argue that making and selling drugs, or polluting the environment, are crimes that have victims, and prostitution becomes one the minute anyone other than the adult who chooses to be a prostitute collects any of the money. But I don’t think any libertarian, even Ayn Rand, SERIOUSLY MEANS that everybody should be completely dedicated to “I want what I want and who cares about anyone else.” Rand’s own sense of personal honor was deeply flawed, as were those of her fictional characters, but she did teach that people should be motivated to act ethically by their sense of honor.
  
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- GilbertAcct
  Posted on March 19, 2013 at 6:28am
  The first line is hysterically inaccurate, “When success (and independence) itself is admired, regardless of how it is won”. Libertarians are strict in the principle of non-aggression and non-coercion. Unlike the Democrats and Republicans who believe the means justify the ends (“Just a little more war and murder, and then we’ll have peace”). A libertarian society would not tolerate coercion, and would structure courts and insurance agencies to resolve disputes and punish criminals. Read “The Ethics of Liberty” by Murray Rothbard to learn more.
  
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- GeoInSD
  Posted on March 24, 2013 at 1:44pm
  But what is good government? What is bad government? And what might be good government in the hands of one particular group of politicians could enable total tyranny in the hands of another group.
  
  When Conservatives complain about the potential for tyranny of certain laws or practices, the Left says, “Oh, you worry too much. We won’t do that.” Let’s assume you won’t infringe on our natural rights, but without protections like in the Constitution, what is to prevent a less benevolent group of politicians from coming in and oppressing us later?
  
  The terms good government and bad government are too ambiguous. The reason for the Constitution and the reason it is important for the Constitution to be interpreted according to the original intent rather than loose “living breathing” interpretations is to preserve our natural rights no matter the hearts and intents of those in charge at any given time.
  
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JEANNIEMAC
Posted on March 17, 2013 at 11:29pm
Orly Taitz attended the CPAC in Washington, and got the attention of Congressmen, reporters, and other news media. Many interviews were taped. The truth about Obama is getting out now, as media in foreign countries are picking up on it.
Orly Taitz has been ridiculed and threatened, but this courageous woman is staying in there, still fighting for our nation. We must support her efforts. If Obama can be removed from office because of her efforts, she will be our National Heroine. Pray for her safety. http://www.orlytaitzesq.com/

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Eternal
Posted on March 17, 2013 at 10:33pm
Any person or political party endorsing gay unions or acts I will not vote for critics be damned. Romans chap 1 verses 19 on forbid gay acts n anyone who supports them … Punishment is hell. Have a nice day.

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- Libertarian B 4 Libertarians Were Cool
  Posted on March 18, 2013 at 1:13am
  Single issue right-wingers…
  
  Why don’t you bible thumpers just let God sort out gays consensual activity?
  
  You’d prefer for the nation to go bankrupt, wars to continue endlessly, and the constitution to be continually erroded?
  
  Obama’s some great champion of Christian causes? Thanks for killing liberty!
  
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- soybomb315_II
  Posted on March 18, 2013 at 8:22am
  like glenn beck says, you must be a ‘nazi or a facist’ to not like someone over a single issue
  
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- soybomb315_II
  Posted on March 18, 2013 at 8:24am
  Eternal – did you vote for mitt romney? Cuz as governor he was very gay friendly. He even appointed gay people on his upper campaign staff
  
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- markthespark
  Posted on March 18, 2013 at 8:36am
  The individualism you crave for yourself will not be realized unless you allow individualism for others.
  
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- termyt
  Posted on March 18, 2013 at 9:00am
  Ah, so the mud slinging begins anew.
  
  “Obama’s some great champion of Christian causes?”
  How did you get an endorsement of Obama out of the OP?
  
  This is what I’ve learned about compromise: Both sites take as extreme a position as they can on opposite sides hoping the compromised solution is closer to their actual position. Then, in today’s climate, neither budges.
  
  I would love to see someone with a voice much louder than mine point out the it is not illegal for gays to marry. What they are prohibited from is a State-recognized license of that marriage. In other words, we have removed the barriers to homosexuals living any lifestyle they deem appropriate or feel lead to (involving consenting adults). What we have not granted, nor will any social Conservative consent to, is that we think it is healthy, productive, normal, or worth promoting.
  
  Does anyone actually believe “Social Acceptance” is a right?
  
  My compromise position is doing away with all licenses for marriage. “Legalizing” gay marriage, which is actually just issuing licenses for it, ends in forcing Christian ministers to perform the ceremonies. That is infringement on a REAL right and flat-out not acceptable.
  
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- Priscilla King
  Posted on March 18, 2013 at 1:01pm
  Romans 1:19 says “Because that which may be known of God is manifest in them; for God hath shewed it unto them.” Verses 26-27 describe homosexual acts as “unseemly” but as PRECURSORS to the state of social degeneration at which people do things “worthy of death”; the homosexuals “receiving in themselves that recompence of their error which was meet,” which could mean that homosexual acts aggravate hormone imbalances and/or that anal sex transmits infections. It’s always worth checking up on these Bible thumper types.
  
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V-MindMeld
Posted on March 17, 2013 at 10:26pm
For me, I will not support a party that supports or condones or turns there heads to gay marriage. Will said the opposition is dying out? I wouldnt be to sure about that,,,,,There will be a conservitive rally with or without libertarians…and the leaders are rising now…..thats all the GOP needs…..a fresh new leader with morals and carisma and things will change.

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- Mil Mom
  Posted on March 18, 2013 at 12:20am
  @V-MindMeld
  Posted on March 17, 2013 at 10:26pm
  
  For me, I will not support a party that supports or condones or turns there heads to gay marriage. Will said the opposition is dying out? I wouldnt be to sure about that,,,,,There will be a conservitive rally with or without libertarians…and the leaders are rising now…..thats all the GOP needs…..a fresh new leader with morals and carisma and things will change
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  And many others will stand with you, they must think “Stand with Rand” can be lassoed onto and turned to the advantage of the goopey ole party” hate to tell them, THE TEA PARTY AIN’T GOIN RINO! Geroge Will sounds like he’s about to hang his hat on the wrong set of horns.
  
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VoteRightDammit
Posted on March 17, 2013 at 8:55pm
‘RISE OF THE LIBERTARIAN STRAND’ OF THE GOP

BULLSHIRT!

This has nothing to do with the GOP, which has shown itself unworthy of support.

As long as mental midgets such as McCain, evil trolls such as Rove, and immoral demons such as Lindsay Graham are leading this dying carcass, there is no reason for ANY intelligent, righteous and moral individual to give the GOP a shred of support.

Let this fetid dinosaur die out.

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- pauli101
  Posted on March 17, 2013 at 10:04pm
  gullible libertarians are busy with suicidal theories. Do these open border fools realize they are ideological puppets in the service of hostile elite?
  
  These fools read Ayn Rand’s utopia where there are no children, no families, just adult John Galts in their loser Gulch.
  
  this is not an ideological battle of left vs right, GOP vs Dems, Socialism vs liberty. This is ethnic warfare against white people.
  
  Why are hostile globalist elite defending Israel as a Jewish ethnostate with Jewish only immigration, but ravaging white majority Europe, North America into a multi-ethnic, multi-cultural Gulag with dystopian non-White colonization?
  
  East Asia is 99% yellow. Africa is 99% Black. West Asia is 99% Brown. But 3rd world colonizers are annihilating Whites, just as Chinese colonizers are annihilating Tibet.
  
  Gullible Whites should reject subversive Jewish ideologies like libertarianism, feminism, liberalism, socialism, & reject hostile slanders of racism, collectivism.
  
  Love to all, but White people must unite & organize to advance their families, their fertility, their interests. Reading list:
  http://goo.gl/htyeq
  http://goo.gl/iB777
  http://amazon.com/dp/0759672229
  http://amazon.com/dp/1410792617
  
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- BlackCrow
  Posted on March 17, 2013 at 10:08pm
  And in the interim you give the country to a bunch of Marxists? NEVER!!!
  
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- Mil Mom
  Posted on March 18, 2013 at 12:22am
  @VoteRightDammit
  Posted on March 17, 2013 at 8:55pm
  
  ‘RISE OF THE LIBERTARIAN STRAND’ OF THE GOP
  
  BULLSHIRT!
  
  This has nothing to do with the GOP, which has shown itself unworthy of support.
  
  As long as mental midgets such as McCain, evil trolls such as Rove, and immoral demons such as Lindsay Graham are leading this dying carcass, there is no reason for ANY intelligent, righteous and moral individual to give the GOP a shred of support.
  
  Let this fetid dinosaur die out
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  Really NEED that “Like” button here!
  
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- shorelineliz
  Posted on March 18, 2013 at 12:50am
  Did you think that every position of Ron Paul was moral? Was he going to throw anyone under the bus? Our military? Israel? what else? let us know.
  
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- Libertarian B 4 Libertarians Were Cool
  Posted on March 18, 2013 at 1:22am
  PAULI101
  
  “subversive Jewish ideologies like libertarianism”
  
  Oh for Pete’s sake you magnificent conspiratorial loon!
  
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- soybomb315_II
  Posted on March 18, 2013 at 8:25am
  if libertarianism is against ‘jewish ideology”, then perhaps you should consider whether we should have “jewish ideology” or not
  
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woodyee
Posted on March 17, 2013 at 8:30pm
George Will has been rubbing KY on for quite some time; I think he sees an opportunity to jump into bed with the blue-blood Repubs to spite the Cruz/Palin wing of the Conservatives.

Slather it on, Will…Boehner’s got more…

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republitarian
Posted on March 17, 2013 at 8:13pm
His analysis is correct, but he doesn’t appear to be too exited about it. He’s right about Reagan building a coalition too, but I doubt Mr. Will would support a Reagan type.

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- justangry
  Posted on March 17, 2013 at 8:28pm
  Oh the lefties in both parties HATE Libertarians.
  
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- justangry
  Posted on March 17, 2013 at 8:41pm
  Need proof? Now Rand’s getting the anti-Semite tag. I imagine it will only get worse if he continues to gain momentum.
  
  http://dailycaller.com/2013/03/17/jewish-democrat-group-denounces-rand-pauls-cpac-straw-poll-victory/#ixzz2NqT0W4R7
  
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- Ballot_Box_Revolution
  Posted on March 17, 2013 at 8:51pm
  Here is what i don’t understand. Media wants to portray that the GOP is being divided by Libertarians, and this may be true on the stage where the spotlight is, but on the streets both parties are losing voters to Libertarian Ideas.
  
  There are many Democrats who have had it with their party as well, and have started waking up to Libertarian ideas, but the mainstream only wants to point out that the GOP is falling apart. I guess it is because a few of the GOP has grown a set and started standing up for Liberty. On the street though, both sides are losing voters….
  
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- republitarian
  Posted on March 17, 2013 at 9:21pm
  It’s almost like a natural law. Libertarians cannot abide Authoritarians and vise versa. Sometimes I think people are born tending to one or the other and we will fight this battle until the end of time.
  
  I read the Article and some of the comments. There is an anti-semite element to the Libertarian movement and Rand will have to answer for that and the sins of the father. He should be able to able to articulate his position well, though. If there’s one thing he’s not, it’s vague.
  
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- soybomb315_II
  Posted on March 17, 2013 at 9:34pm
  what ‘sins of the father’ are you talking about??? did you ask GW Bush to repent the sins of elder bush?
  
  The bible says that sins of the father are no longer carried through their children
  
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- justangry
  Posted on March 17, 2013 at 9:40pm
  @Republitarian, One can not equate a few anonymous posts below an online article to anti-Semitic movement a politician must answer for. That’s BS. Anyone can create an account even those trying to discredit a movement… True Libertarians can not be anti-Semitic. It goes against their core principles.
  
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- republitarian
  Posted on March 17, 2013 at 11:02pm
  Soybomb, sorry if i wasn’t clear. I don’t agree with it, but it’s going to happen and he’d better be prepared.
  
  Justangry, I think when some people wake up and lament what has happened to this country, they look for someone to blame. Techengineer11 would be a good example.
  
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- soybomb315_II
  Posted on March 17, 2013 at 11:32pm
  “Justangry, I think when some people wake up and lament what has happened to this country, they look for someone to blame. Techengineer11 would be a good example.”
  
  No, they will blame people like GW Bush
  
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- Mil Mom
  Posted on March 18, 2013 at 12:28am
  @Ballot_Box_Revolution
  Posted on March 17, 2013 at 8:51pm
  
  Here is what i don’t understand. Media wants to portray that the GOP is being divided by Libertarians, and this may be true on the stage where the spotlight is, but on the streets both parties are losing voters to Libertarian Ideas.
  
  There are many Democrats who have had it with their party as well, and have started waking up to Libertarian ideas, but the mainstream only wants to point out that the GOP is falling apart. I guess it is because a few of the GOP has grown a set and started standing up for Liberty. On the street though, both sides are losing voters….
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  And when we all unite behind TEA Party Type True Freedom Loving Candidates Like Cruz, Paul, Lee, et al,they’d better be ready because there’s activity along the fault lines and that Quake’s Gonna Shake Everything the pretend two parties have conspired against the Constitution to build for over 100 years!
  
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- justangry
  Posted on March 18, 2013 at 1:24am
  @Mil Mom, When the Tea Party views our rights as sacred as Libertarians do, perhaps. Too many have sold us out for a false sense of security. In other words, you’re not going to get any civil libertarians back into the tea party as long it’s merely the “taxed enough already” party. To me trials, privacy, freedom to assemble, etc are more important than money.
  
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- carbonyes
  Posted on March 18, 2013 at 11:54am
  JustAngry, enjoy your posts.
  Have been to Israel 3 times and have Israeli friends their and some Jewish friends in the States – mostly conservative. Sad to say most American Jews are liberal and can’t see past the end of their nose. They have the same disease as an overwhelming majority of blacks in America – liberalism. See, The Liberal Mind: The Psychological Causes of Political Madness by Lyle H. Rossiter, Jr. M.D., a forensic psychiatrist with over 35 yrs. of clinical experience – exceptionally well written book and profound incite into an understanding of the liberal mind and its wayward misguided misunderstandings. Available on Amazon and at http://www.libertmind.com
  The misplaced trust and support of the Democratic Party by the liberal Jews is only exceeded by the black population of America, where the blacks make their home down on the plantation that uses and abuses them on a regular basis. The Democratic leadership under LBJ began the corralling with The Great Society and their downward destruction of the black family has not stopped since the – Planned Parenthood anyone? Predominantly situated in minority neighborhoods!
  As far as the liberal Jews go, not only has Obama never supported them, but has openly demonstrated his hostility towards them, many times through the media a d certainly with Obama’s appointments of Hagel and Brennan, as well as Obama’s position on settlements, etc.
  Hopefully the Liberal Jew wakes up and realizes their true friend in America.
  
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- carbonyes
  Posted on March 18, 2013 at 12:44pm
  Ps. Been to Israel three times. Refer to them as Israeli’s as they differ tremendously from the American liberal Jew, many of whom do not support ISRAEL other than with lip service and with little finances. It is the conservative American Jew who financially support Israel. Side note: it is the conservative evangelical Christian that also supports Israel – avidly.
  
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welovetheUSA
Posted on March 17, 2013 at 7:52pm
Ah…but now they are waking up..Immigration reform, free medical to illegals, by this time next year the Obama heathcare will hit everyone..he wated to insure 10 million..he achieved in cutting 70 million from private insurace, our US reserve currency in the world id being replaced by other currency like the Chinese yuan, this will devalue our dollar big time, Nancy Polosi and her gang are setting up a way to take everyones retirement accounts, nationalizing 401Ks, IRA.s etc..they believe they can manage your retirement funds better than you can. As long as the feds print money and pay the banks to keep interest rates low..the stock market will crash..the economy will fall and this is why homeland security is buying billions in guns-bullets and tanks, drones..the government knows they will need to contain and kill Americans when there is civil unrest…so you see while Obama is destroying this country…people like yourself ignore the facts….communist live in our white house, period. Gay marriage is only alive in the liberal media……no where else can you find anyone who wants the marriage defaced as liberals.

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shorelineliz
Posted on March 17, 2013 at 7:23pm
Liberty and Responsibility: Inseparable Ideals
source: http://www.maxmore.com/libresp.htm

Over the course of this century the ideals of liberty and personal responsibility have increasingly drifted apart. This means both ideals, liberty and responsibility, have become distorted. Personal responsibility cannot exist without liberty, and liberty will not persist without responsibility. Liberty without responsibility is license. Liberty-as-license has become widespread in our culture. It manifests in many ways: In desires for freedom to do anything without restraint and without cost � the cost to be borne by someone else; the demand for income as a right�someone else to produce the income; the expectation of guaranteed commercial success � someone else to pay the costs of government subsidies and protection from foreign and “unfair” competition.

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Southernsoul
Posted on March 17, 2013 at 7:06pm
The lefties at Huffpo are dumbfounded. They don’t have a clue as to whats going on with this new wave of TEA Party breakouts. Its so funny.

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- republitarian
  Posted on March 17, 2013 at 8:22pm
  I’m on the Huf po a lot. More and more people are studying Revolutionary War history, The Constitution, And the Bill of Rights.
  
  Education is just a click away for those who care to learn.
  
  Anyone who values their Second Amendment Rights should study what happened at Lexington and Concord and be ready to explain it to others.
  
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- LDSmommy
  Posted on March 18, 2013 at 3:14am
  I think the Tea Party was originally a great thing. It was about the Constitution and Bill of Rights. I still hold out some hope.
  I’m a conservative libertarian. I don’t know how else to identify myself. People are so busy trying to define who means what, blah, blah, blah. Years ago very popular jerk on Twitter, who claims he started the Tea Party, flipped out on me. For over an hour, he told me how it was ‘impossible’ for me to be a conservative libertarian. I told him I was very sorry that in some definitions…his definitions, it was impossible, but I stood by my manner of identifying myself, thank you. He blocked me for being ‘stupid’ and anti-Tea Party! Wait…what?
  Going by the classic definition of libertarian (which i don’t really think there is), I might not fit in. I believe in the Constitution, the Bill of Rights and small government not telling me what size soda to buy. I am Christian. I am pro-gay marriage as long as churches (bakeries, photographers, etc.) aren’t forced to participate and pro-2nd amendment. I am anti-progressive.
  Whatever that makes me, it sure ain’t what’s in office right now.
  
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soybomb315_II
Posted on March 17, 2013 at 6:57pm
George Will is just the latest band-wagon jumper to the liberty/constitutionalist message. He has not always been a fan. When people like George Will begin to move, it means they stuck their thumb in the air and figured out the wind is in our direction. I dont give two ***** what he says, but it is informative he has flip-flopped

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- justangry
  Posted on March 17, 2013 at 7:41pm
  I think it’s a show. Hear me out. Most of us Libertarians just want left alone, right? When we’re being left alone we mind our own business. If they can lull us back to sleep thinking we’re going to be left alone, the CFR d**kwads can continue their quest for world domination without us bitching and making them look bad. The GOP’s rules haven’t changed and the same neocons are still the only voice in the media. They’re throwing us a bone hoping we’ll go away is all. I don’t think they realized how much they pissed us off though.
  
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- soybomb315_II
  Posted on March 17, 2013 at 8:03pm
  yea they are going to throw us a couple bones to keep us from altering the status quo like they did for the tea party. But ours is based on principles and ideas and not party politics. Its like ultra-tea party
  
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- republitarian
  Posted on March 17, 2013 at 8:49pm
  I don’t think he’s jumping on, just offering analysis. That is;after all, what they pay him to do and I think he’s calling it right.
  
  And Soy, you once told me “yeah, but I wish they would throw us a bone once in a while.” ;)
  
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- soybomb315_II
  Posted on March 17, 2013 at 9:35pm
  well that is progress, republitarian :)
  
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justangry
Posted on March 17, 2013 at 6:49pm
Meanwhile Bill Kristol attacks Rand Paul for being LEFT of Obama. When imbeciles makes such stupid claims, why doesn’t it affect their credibility? I don’t trust any of these media pukes.

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- geeman
  Posted on March 17, 2013 at 7:56pm
  Just,They care only about the party not the country.Just like dems.Only dems hate the country and repubs still like america.
  
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- KidCharlemagne
  Posted on March 17, 2013 at 7:56pm
  Bilderberg: Bill Kristol
  
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- justangry
  Posted on March 17, 2013 at 8:21pm
  Sorry I forgot the link. Every time that little slimy weasel opens his mouth I have to count to 10.
  
  http://dailycaller.com/2013/03/17/bill-kristol-attacks-rand-paul-for-running-to-the-left-of-the-obama-administration/
  
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wigone
Posted on March 17, 2013 at 6:37pm
Liberty through the United States Constitution and Bill of Rights!

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- Stelex
  Posted on March 17, 2013 at 6:46pm
  Nuff said. To hell with the rest.
  
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TRUTHandFREEDOM
Posted on March 17, 2013 at 6:32pm
Marriage is a man and a woman under nature & nature’s God.

Man & man or woman & woman are OBVIOUSLY something different in nature & do not serve Nature’s & Nature’s God’s purpose for a union; to multiply; to populate & keep from extinction.
I’d support a flat/ fair tax abolition of marriage tax benefits, but not redefining marriage.

We live on an object hurling through space. We’ve seen the benefits of adhering to Biblical values & the result of societies & parts of societies who don’t. We’ve seen the results of the agenda that removes the Bible & replaces it with GOVERNMENT principles SEPARATED from Biblical principles.

George Will says ” opposition to gay marriage is literally dying”. I say it is dying along with virtue. America stepped away from the Bible.

Many now feel it’s a greater sin to stand against a gay activist than to stand against God.
There’s a POLITICAL drive to get people to view Biblical values negatively.

Karl Marx said Communism is happiness & said “The first requisite for the happiness of the people is the abolition of religion.”
ACLU founder Roger Baldwin said “I am for socialism, disarmament, and, ultimately, for abolishing the state itself… I seek the social ownership of property, the abolition of the propertied class, and the sole control of those who produce wealth. Communism is the goal. ”
Our 1st amendment has been rewritten by liars. Our culture & freedom are being dismantled. This issue is 1 battle.

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- TRILO
  Posted on March 17, 2013 at 7:06pm
  Get the federal government out of marriage. The only reason it is an issue is there are tax benefits and control by the government. When our country was created our founding fathers never imagined the federal government would be granting marriage rights. This was always an issue reserved for the church. Let the churches handle it. If someone does not want to be married in a church then let an attorney prepare a contract. Judges represent the government.
  
  We need a fair tax and all of this would end. The country is swimming in unsustainable debt and the republicans focus on this issue.
  
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- Critical Thinker
  Posted on March 17, 2013 at 7:23pm
  You are proof and part of the cause of the division spoke of in this article, so thanks for that genius.
  
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- glassaudioguy
  Posted on March 17, 2013 at 9:21pm
  If we were to legalize same sex marriage, how could it be done without the government’s involvement? (Strike one against libertarians.) Once it was, how could those who object to it not be forced into some level of participation? Two cases- the wedding photographer who didn’t want to ply her trade at a same sex ceremony and the owner of a bakery who didn’t want to do a wedding cake for a lesbian couple; they’ve been sued for discrimination. That violates the freedom of religion (strike two) and their self-professed “leave us alone” philosophy (strike three.) Sorry, but you libertarians haven’t thought out your own ideas very well.
  
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- soybomb315_II
  Posted on March 17, 2013 at 9:45pm
  @glassaudioguy
  There are many mistakes in your post. First of all, the federal government does not “legalize” anything. The function of our government is either to do nothing or force people to not to do something. The reason this is important is because the natural state of man is perfect freedom – government only exists to protect those rights. That is a founding principle and must be understood. So you ask “how could it be done”, and the answer is simple…Cuz the federal government has no involvement.
  
  “Strike two” – I am pretty sure a photographer and cake maker can say no to anybody they want to. It is their business. But if they cant, then you cannot blame libertarians because they have been against that part of the civil rights act since it was passed. A private business should not be forced to do business with anyone – that interferes with private contract. It is not the libertarians fault that the democrats and republicans made a stupid law
  
  “Sorry, but you libertarians haven’t thought out your own ideas very well.” Apparently you think it is better to keep losing elections than to fix the problems and restore freedom
  
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- Mil Mom
  Posted on March 18, 2013 at 12:47am
  @glassaudioguy
  Posted on March 17, 2013 at 9:21pm
  
  If we were to legalize same sex marriage, how could it be done without the government’s involvement? (Strike one against libertarians.) Once it was, how could those who object to it not be forced into some level of participation? Two cases- the wedding photographer who didn’t want to ply her trade at a same sex ceremony and the owner of a bakery who didn’t want to do a wedding cake for a lesbian couple; they’ve been sued for discrimination. That violates the freedom of religion (strike two) and their self-professed “leave us alone” philosophy (strike three.) Sorry, but you libertarians haven’t thought out your own ideas very well.
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  Aaaahh! but if you’ll only decriminalize drugs, don’t you remember from highschool being told how they’ll open the mind to greater thought? You see stuff so much better amid puffs of mariuana. Choom Gang Anyone?
  
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shorelineliz
Posted on March 17, 2013 at 6:25pm
And in future news:

George Will willed himself into the 2016 Presidential Elections and won by a landslide and was dubbed “King George” by the American populace clamoring for another Savior King to fix their problems. Hispanic Congressman Marco Rubio called it “apparent European style racism” that another “white Republican won” while (I) Rand Paul drank himself to death with Kentucky whisky in another failed Libertarian attempt. Hillary Clinton laughed herself all the way to her bank in the Cayman Islands and was seen comfortably skiing in both the Swiss Alps and Aspen, Colorado. Karl Rove handed out Snickers and Skor bars to everyone in congratulatory adulation that another one was “won for the old balding RINO gas bags” and “we have more money than God” GOP establishment. Sandra Fluke, a graduate of the prestigious Catholic Georgetown University, and senior partner in a new law firm with a 6 figure salary and corner office, offed herself with her concealed weapon because her abortions and birth control would no longer be free. The cities of: New York, Chicago, Detroit, Baltimore, Atlanta, Los Angeles, and Boston went completely down in flames declaring bankruptcy simultaneously as their welfare subsidies were cut off entirely to grow the Pentagon. To its former glory. Sara Palin was NOT invited to King George’s Inaugural ball. No pie was served except Humble Pie. For the Liberals. Inaugural Goody bags were filled with: Snickers and Obsession Perfume. And Skor

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- shorelineliz
  Posted on March 18, 2013 at 12:43am
  SOYBOMB315_II
  Posted on March 17, 2013 at 8:10pm
  do you really want to live forever?
  
  @Soy:
  
  of course. don’t you?
  
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chips1
Posted on March 17, 2013 at 6:10pm
The cockroaches come out of the woodwork to claim ownership of the TEA PARTY. It is a collection of Americans that refuse to be controlled by the plantation owners. The career politicians are finished picking who the running mates will be in elections. Americans will decide. Screw Obama, Romney, Rove and all the rest of them. NO MORE!!!!

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- oldguy49
  Posted on March 17, 2013 at 6:16pm
  amen pass the ammo
  
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- Joss
  Posted on March 17, 2013 at 6:23pm
  I received a call last weekend from the Tea Party Something Or Other asking me for $200. I told them I’d never heard of them. The paid money raiser on the other end of the phone cheerily announced, “We’re new!”
  
  I’m very weary of fundraisers from Newt Gingrich, Inc. to the RNC. This whole system has become a money vacuum. The money I donated the last two years went for nothing. I need a break.
  
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- truthnstuff
  Posted on March 17, 2013 at 9:53pm
  We should only contribute directly to the candidates. If they are a PAC, or a group using the candidates name, I say, nooooooooo, not a cent, I contribute directly.
  
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- Mil Mom
  Posted on March 18, 2013 at 12:56am
  @Joss
  Posted on March 17, 2013 at 6:23pm
  
  I received a call last weekend from the Tea Party Something Or Other asking me for $200. I told them I’d never heard of them. The paid money raiser on the other end of the phone cheerily announced, “We’re new!”
  
  I’m very weary of fundraisers from Newt Gingrich, Inc. to the RNC. This whole system has become a money vacuum. The money I donated the last two years went for nothing. I need a break
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  Not sure if it was Levin or Beck who told the story of the plan by the left to start a new party named Tea Party and try to sneak in lefty candidates for 2014. May be who you got the call from.
  
  I think there’s a progressive plan from both sides to run the American people bankrupt by putting up bills or rumors of bills then fundraising against them until no one has any money left to donate to true patriotic candidates who’ll undo what they’re doing to the country.
  
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PIGSWILLNEVERFLY
Posted on March 17, 2013 at 6:10pm
Since when do 2% queers and Portman change middle America? Do not listen to the propaganda media or george will…they stand for nothing. Principles and values DO NOT CHANGE…THEY ARE ETERNAL. If they can sell out our souls they can take away our G-d given rights. Please, don’t let them. Enough harm has been done that will take years to recover, restore and reenergize the American Spirit.

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shorelineliz
Posted on March 17, 2013 at 6:00pm
Long live the King! I mean the Emperor! I mean the Dictator! I mean the Party! I mean: Down with the King! the Party! the Dictator! The Emperor! I mean: Up with the Party! I mean the Emperor! I mean the Dictator! The King! I mean: Down with the Party! Uh …I mean…. up with the Party? Uh. I am confused. What am I supposed to do now? Uh. um. uh…..

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- Stelex
  Posted on March 17, 2013 at 6:45pm
  I see an opportunity here, he he he.
  
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YesLiberalsAreThatDumb
Posted on March 17, 2013 at 5:46pm
An endorsement from George Will? I’d rather he just shut up!

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- chips1
  Posted on March 17, 2013 at 6:13pm
  With his blond ****, he is probably a product of the German breeding program.
  
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- mayancalendar2012
  Posted on March 17, 2013 at 8:09pm
  @Chips1…
  WTF are you talking about? I suppose you prefer Michelle’s fly new wig.
  
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progressiveslayer
Posted on March 17, 2013 at 5:44pm
A two party system is what’s needed because this big government party has done a fine job of putting us 100+ trillion in the hole. Whatever you want to call em we need people who’ll govern within the bounds of the constitution. These progressive pukes currently destroying this country need to go ASAP.

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- gyro
  Posted on March 17, 2013 at 6:59pm
  a turd is a turd no mater how much perfume you dump on it
  
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DougHuffman
Posted on March 17, 2013 at 5:38pm
George F. Will wishes he were William F. Buckley, he ain’t and ain’t going to be while shilling for WaPo. Libertarians are progressives and anti-conservative.

Only the Constitution Party represents the conservative Country Class against America’s progressive Ruling Class in the L, D, R parties.

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- soybomb315_II
  Posted on March 17, 2013 at 7:35pm
  you are too wrapped up in party labels. Most libertarians are not members of the libertarian party and do not vote as such. In fact, I bet there are a ton of libertarians in the constitution party. Similarly, you can be a constitutionalist and not be in the constitution party. i voted for chuck baldwin in 2008 and gary johnson in 2012 so you can take your “libertarians are progressive” bs and shove it
  
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GoodStuff
Posted on March 17, 2013 at 5:30pm
Rand voted for Kerry, Hagel, and Lew. He’s a complete fraud.

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- Triple7
  Posted on March 17, 2013 at 5:42pm
  You apparently missed the explanation.
  
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- shorelineliz
  Posted on March 17, 2013 at 7:20pm
  Yes. Rand did vote for these guys. His explanation sucked. “don’t use your Liberty as a license to sin.”
  
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- Mike76
  Posted on March 17, 2013 at 7:21pm
  Show me one member of Congress that you support who has never cast a vote you disagreed with. You can’t. No one can. Keep finding knits to pick and hopefully you’ll be too busy to vote for more neo-con Progressives in the next election.
  
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- soybomb315_II
  Posted on March 17, 2013 at 7:37pm
  Yea goodstuff…..If thats how you feel about rand paul, dont tell me you voted for big government flip-flopping bailout socialized medicine Mitt Romney!!! Otherwise you are just a hypocrite
  
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- KidCharlemagne
  Posted on March 17, 2013 at 8:00pm
  If you voted for Romney, then you don’t have any room to talk…..
  
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- shorelineliz
  Posted on March 18, 2013 at 12:39am
  It’s too bad that all these Rand Paul worshipping Libertarians think Rand will make the cut. He won’t. Not anymore than Ron Paul made the cut. The GOP will put up Marco Rubio. To get the Hispanic vote. Rand will put his hat in the ring. But it won’t stay there. Marco Rubio will run against Hillary Clinton. And lose. 2016 is already in the bag. Rand Paul is too Jimmy Stewart to win. Too good.
  
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- soybomb315_II
  Posted on March 18, 2013 at 8:28am
  “rand paul worshiping libertarians”
  
  Get over yourself shorelinz….you are obviously here to stirr up trouble rather than help the solutions. Get a grip, nobody is worshiping rand paul in fact we are split on him. You are too ignorant to even understand that
  
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- THX-1138
  Posted on March 18, 2013 at 9:44am
  @shorelineliz
  
  Jimmy won, didn’t he?
  
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crusaderx9
Posted on March 17, 2013 at 5:30pm
George Will is a man with a life that has no meaning.

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- shorelineliz
  Posted on March 18, 2013 at 12:36am
  KIDCHARLEMAGNE Said:
  If you voted for Romney, then you don’t have any room to talk….
  SOYBOMB315_II Said:
  Yea goodstuff…..If thats how you feel about rand paul, dont tell me you voted for big government flip-flopping bailout socialized medicine Mitt Romney!!! Otherwise you are just a hypocrite
  MIKE76 Said:
  Show me one member of Congress that you support who has never cast a vote you disagreed with. You can’t. No one can. Keep finding knits to pick and hopefully you’ll be too busy to vote for more neo-con Progressives in the next election.”
  
  @KID-SOY-MIKE:
  
  THEY won’t let little Rand Paul get to the top anymore than they let his Daddy Ron Paul, okay? Rand Paul is TOO HONEST to be President okay? They need someone more DISHONEST. And More of a FLIP FLOPPER. Cause that is how it works or don’t you guys already know that? Ya see: The FAIRY TALE of Rand Paul is nice. I like it. But, it isn’t going to happen. Cause it is a Fairy Tale. America isn’t going to get a Fairy Tale. They are going to get one FLIP FLOPPER after another. Expect it. Go ahead and defend Rand Paul. He is a good guy. That is WHY he won’t make it to the top. No one that good ever will. Call me a hypocrite. I have spine of iron and skin like scales. Doesn’t matter. But if you think the GOP is going to put up Rand Paul for President , then you believe in a fairy tale. I am a realist. Rand Paul won’t make the cut.
  
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- soybomb315_II
  Posted on March 18, 2013 at 9:13am
  @shorelinz
  
  It is not about what we “think” it is about what we “want”. If you would grow a pair you would realize that there is nothing wrong with pushing for what you want – especially if it is right
  
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LibertyLinda
Posted on March 17, 2013 at 5:29pm
George Will IS the establishment that is being put out to pasture. It is NOT Libertarian Republicanism, it is Conservative Libertarianism. It was born thanks to Rand Paul. CPAC still had some establishment threads in it, but it is all a start in the RIGHT direction. Pray hard America.

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WINNEBAGOMAN
Posted on March 17, 2013 at 5:27pm
The Libertarians will either take over the GOP or break away from the GOP, leaving the GOP as nothing more than a group of “light” Progressives. The GOP is the Whig party. It’s over!

Give me Liberty…

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- shorelineliz
  Posted on March 17, 2013 at 7:21pm
  Beware the cry of “liberty”. it comes with “death”
  
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- soybomb315_II
  Posted on March 17, 2013 at 8:10pm
  do you really want to live forever?
  
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- Inkmage
  Posted on March 17, 2013 at 8:46pm
  @WINNEBAGOMAN
  
  Take back the GOP you should say ^_^. The Republican party was founded upon classic liberal ideals, with common sense thrown in- which would be called classic conservatism, following the constitution- and keeping gov in check. Classic liberalism only asked the question “does man need government to tell him how to live?” Progressives later distorted the word liberal. Progressives even infiltrated the Republican party, starting with Teddy Roosevelt, and later corrupted the word conservative.
  
  The first thing people think of today when they think of a conservative, is one who is a social conservative who pushes god. If someone isn’t seen as socially conservative enough, or isn’t a “all caps Christian”, many people who call themselves social conservatives will not support them, or trust them that much- and will immediately call them a progressive, or a leftist, and run to someone like a Rick Santorum who tickles their ears with his social conservative religious speech, not realizing they’ve run away from one form of collectivism to another.
  
  Both modern liberals and conservative ones, don’t know true freedom, or how to stay out of people’s personal lives.
  
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- THX-1138
  Posted on March 18, 2013 at 9:42am
  @shorelineliz
  
  What is Life without Liberty? Death.
  
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