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What Obama Quote Did John Boehner and Paul Ryan Agree With Today?
While the media often criticizes Republicans for refusing to accept even the premise of arguments advanced by their opponents in the Democratic party, both House Speaker John Boehner and House Budget committee Chairman Paul Ryan managed to parrot one of the president’s more recent quotes on separate Sunday shows – Boehner on ABC’s “This Week” and Ryan on CBS’ “Face the Nation.”
That quote? The idea that, as the president said this past week, “we don’t have an immediate crisis in terms of debt.”
First, when talking to CBS’ Bob Schieffer, Rep. Ryan (R-WI) made the argument that, “To borrow a phrase from my friend Erskine Bowles, we are the healthiest-looking horse in the glue factory. That means America is still a step ahead of the European nations who are confronting a debt crisis, of Japan, that’s in its second lost decade. It’s probably because of our resilient economy, because of our world currency status…So we do not have a debt crisis right now. But, we see it coming. We know it’s irrefutably happening. And the point we’re trying to make with our budget is, let’s get ahead of this problem.” (Emphasis added)
Watch Ryan’s remarks below:
Boehner, meanwhile, who has a history of butting heads with President Obama on fiscal matters, told “This Week’s” Martha Raddatz:
We do not have an immediate debt crisis. But we all know that we have one looming. And we have– one looming– because we have entitlement programs that are not sustainable in their current form. They’re gonna go bankrupt. Washington has responsibility– to our seniors and our near seniors– that we firm up these programs so that they’re there for the long term. Because if we don’t do it, not only will they not get benefits, we will have a debt crisis right around the corner. We have time to solve our problems. But we need to do it now.
Watch the full interview with Boehner below:
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dealer@678
Posted on March 17, 2013 at 10:48pmI dont give a crap what either one of em thinks. I wanna know what Ted Cruz thinks
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shorelineliz
Posted on March 18, 2013 at 1:00amEverybody agrees the GOP sucks. But, Obama sucks worse. Pick your lesser of two evils. That is all the AMerican People ever get anyway. There is NO FAIRY TALE here okay? One lesser of two suckages every 4 years. Live with it. Deal with it.
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KevINtampa
Posted on March 18, 2013 at 2:02amThat’s like saying Hulk Hogan is the lesser evil than Macho Man. Fact is they both work towards the same agenda and want you to believe the rivalry is real.
There is no difference between the GOP and the Democrats. None. Get that through your head. There is no lesser of the two evils. Sure as the sun will rise tomorrow, the people you think are sparring each other are really acting out an orchestrated game of cahoots. Jesus Christ, son of God, I would have thought more people would have opened their eyes by now.
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CatB
Posted on March 18, 2013 at 2:07am@DEALER .. agree let’s hear from Ted Cruz and Rand Paul… … and of course they don’t think they have a problem .. they will just take everyones retirement savings, college funds, fillings in your teeth .. etc.
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flyingfox88
Posted on March 18, 2013 at 4:03amMe too. I have it up to HERE with these bozos.
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TRUTHandFREEDOM
Posted on March 18, 2013 at 5:25amTrust must be earned. That cannot happen with the same people making opposing cases.
The manure pile continues to deepen.
I have heard decades ofthe debt and shore ir up political speak. I want to see the tools removed from the politicians and programs privatized. I want the EPA to be an advisory board, not an unlawful legislative branch. I want the Dept of Education disolved. It’s still a new freedom mangler. We don’t need it.
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Obama Been Lauding
Posted on March 18, 2013 at 6:16am“BY LAW”!!!
If “BY LAW” means that if they don’t do what is suppose to be done “BY LAW”, it means they break the Law. With that said–why have Anonymous Sources –Harry Reid, and Redistribution of Wealth– Barack Hussein Obama not been charged with breaking the law, for not putting forth a budget??
Are they above the “Law”?
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carbonyes
Posted on March 18, 2013 at 7:43amWho in the Hell are they trying to kid by making an asinine statement like that?
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soybomb315_II
Posted on March 18, 2013 at 8:50amif you want a 3rd party to emerge, you have to vote for it…..otherwise it is just talk
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smokeysmoke
Posted on March 18, 2013 at 11:46amthat is so dumb, the debt crises exists, becuase out FED IS CORNERING THE BOND MARKET TO KEEP INTERST RATES at .1%…. on 16.7 trillion of debt, its litle money… but WE CANNOT KEEP MANIPULATING INTERST RATES BY PRINTING DOLLARS AND BUYING BONDS… it is 1 driivng up the price of food, and devaluing the dollar… aka devaluying the money your paid with…
were destroying the yield on bond investments, so that people can no longer invest in 2 5 10 20 30 yr bonds, becuase your money is DECREASING IN VALUE ON YOUR RETURN… you are paying the govt to HOLD YOUR MONEY AND RETURN LESS AT A FUTURE DATE….
so this forces people in equities like the dow….
so what happens when our fed stops stimulating the BOND MARKET AND INTERST RATES RISE ON OUR 17 trillion dollar debt… for every 1% higher interst rates go… we must pay 170 BILLION DOLLARS A YEAR ON INTERST…
a historic normal interst rate is 3-6%… so were looking at 510, 1 trillion dollars in interst payments…
IF PEOPLE DO NOT KNOW WHAT A DEBT CRISES LOOKS LIKE…. ITS EASY TO BE LIED TO…. have someone say… OHH THAT… its so far off… its not immediate…. AND NEVER EVEN FING MENTION that the debt crises is ONLY NOT BEING FELT, BECUASE OUR FED IS MANIPULATING THE INTERST MARKETS SO THAT WE PAY LITTLE TO SERVICE OUR DEBT IN THE SHORT TERM…
if we do not figure out a way to pay our bills and lower the debt if 10 years… we are going to have a debt crises or our curency will be hyperin
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CathyvanDyke
Posted on March 17, 2013 at 10:47pmJohn Boehner: Debt crisis not ‘immediate,’ but ‘looming’
March 17, 2013
http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/the-fix/wp/2013/03/17/john-boehner-debt-crisis-not-immediate-but-looming/?wprss=rss_national
Paul Ryan Tells CBS’ Bob Schieffer ‘We Do Not Have A Debt Crisis’
March 17th, 2013
http://www.mediaite.com/tv/paul-ryan-tells-cbs-bob-schieffer-we-do-not-have-a-debt-crisis/
Why I Am Not a CPAC Conservative
March 15, 2013
By Robert Spencer
http://frontpagemag.com/2013/robert-spencer/why-i-am-not-a-cpac-conservative/
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soybomb315_II
Posted on March 17, 2013 at 10:25pmPaul Ryan – “so we do not have a debt crisis right now”
Now you see the narrative if romney/ryan would have won….Same as the democraps. Isnt it good you wasted your vote on those two?
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sweetieboat
Posted on March 17, 2013 at 11:41pmwould we have been better off if Ryan and Romney had won? yes!
Ryan answered each question with expertise, knowing what he is talking about. Maybe it why we did not hear much from him during the election.
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soybomb315_II
Posted on March 17, 2013 at 11:56pmnow that you brought that up, i am surprised we have not heard stories about Paul Ryan getting silenced like Sarah Palin was in 2008. I wonder if it occurred or not…..After the seeing how it turned out last time, they probably made Paul Ryan sign a confidentiality agreement
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shorelineliz
Posted on March 18, 2013 at 12:59amWasn’t it weird how Ron Paul didn’t get the GOP nomination? Can you Libertarians put up a candidate that WILL win for sure? I like Rand Paul. But, I don’t think he will get to the top. So, who will? There are no Fairy Tale endings. You saw how the GOP duped all the Ron Paul supporters and at the last minute they changed the GOP rules on them and everyone left and didn’t vote.
FACT:
1. Libertarians who had HOPED to vote for Ron Paul in the primary though Romney had won their states was flummoxed to learn at the GOP Convention they were unable to. Many left the convention tearful and outraged.
2. Libertarians STAYED HOME and did not vote
3. Evangelicals unable to get behind a “mormon” STAYED HOME and did not vote
4. Voter Fraud in Ohio and Pennsylvania, Two Key Swing States with Huge Electoral College Votes put BArack Obama back into office COUPLED with Libertarians and Evangelicals NOT VOTING.
Conclusion:
Voter Fraud, Evangelicals and Libertarians NOT VOTING gave Barack Obama his second term.
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TIME_2_END_THE_PAUL_CAMPAIGN_IN_12
Posted on March 18, 2013 at 7:28am“Many left the convention tearful and outraged.”
There’s no CRYING in Ron Paul Ball. Lol.
That was probably the best and most satisfying part of this whole election cycle and especially the GOP Convention… to watch the Ron Paul lunatics get biatch-slapped to the outer fringes of the arena and get beat at their own attempt to game the system. I thoroughly enjoyed watching the excitement there on the ground. I laughed so much I almost cried… but there’s no CRYING in politics… except for the Ron Paul lunatics I guess.
Waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa… lol. Loved it. You get what you give… nada.
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Max jones
Posted on March 18, 2013 at 7:56amSOYBOMB…..Can’t you see the supernatural control that has overtaken this world? The time is short and the choices individuals make are that much more immediate. Don’t screw up now. There may not be time enough for a re-do.
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sta
Posted on March 18, 2013 at 8:30amshorelineliz- you got it.
No matter what you think of Ron Paul (I’m not a follower), his people were ticked off and stayed home.
You may be right about Evangelicals, but more importantly, die hard conservatives said, “Not another RINO.” They stayed home. Ohio and Florida, stolen.
NO ONE is looking at why we swept in 2010 and died in 2012. Understanding that the swing voters went Romney, why is it that he lost the base? Not because he was too conservative, I would venture to guess.
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soybomb315_II
Posted on March 18, 2013 at 8:47amyea its like abusing your wife and then expecting her to love you. makes no sense and anyone who thinks that way is completely foolish
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TIME_2_END_THE_PAUL_CAMPAIGN_IN_12
Posted on March 18, 2013 at 8:59am“No matter what you think of Ron Paul (I’m not a follower), his people were ticked off and stayed home.”
Ron Paul’s most loyal subjects were never voting for anyone BUT Ron Paul anyways… so it doesn’t really matter. A number of Paul’s lesser subjects DID however vote for Johnson, Goode, Stein etc…
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TIME_2_END_THE_PAUL_CAMPAIGN_IN_12
Posted on March 18, 2013 at 9:37amSOY wrote “.yea its like abusing your wife and then expecting her to love you. makes no sense and anyone who thinks that way is completely foolish.”
The only reason you noobs were a part of the GOP (not that you were ever REALLY a part of the GOP) is because Ron Paul came crawling back to the the Republican Party after quitting and only after realizing the only way he could stay a career politician was to run as… and convince the rubes in his district that he was one of them… and for them. He was nothing more than a narcissistic absentee landlord for most of his… over-stayed gub’ment career.
And you guys (you are a guy right? sometimes I’m skepical) talk about rhinos.
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retribution11
Posted on March 18, 2013 at 1:59pmSome ideas are stupid only intellectuals believe them.
George Orwell
you cannot legislate the poor into prosperity by legislating the wealthy out of prosperity.
When half the people get the idea that they do not have to work because the other half is going to take care of them,and the other half gets the idea that it does no good to work because somebody else is going to get what they work for,that is the beginning of the end for any nation.
The government cannot give anybody anything that the government does not first take from somebody else.
You cannot multiply wealth by dividing it!
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DeVain
Posted on March 17, 2013 at 10:21pmWe may be the “healthiest horse in the glue factory” but WE ARE STILL IN THE GLUE FACTORY! It doesn’t matter how healthy we are…we’re gonna die!!!!!!!!!!!
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oldguy49
Posted on March 17, 2013 at 10:27pmre-elect no one
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CathyvanDyke
Posted on March 17, 2013 at 10:50pmWhy I Am Not a CPAC Conservative
March 15, 2013
By Robert Spencer
http://frontpagemag.com/2013/robert-spencer/why-i-am-not-a-cpac-conservative/
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CathyvanDyke
Posted on March 17, 2013 at 10:52pmJohn Boehner: Debt crisis not ‘immediate,’ but ‘looming’
March 17, 2013
http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/the-fix/wp/2013/03/17/john-boehner-debt-crisis-not-immediate-but-looming/?wprss=rss_national
Paul Ryan Tells CBS’ Bob Schieffer ‘We Do Not Have A Debt Crisis’
March 17th, 2013
http://www.mediaite.com/tv/paul-ryan-tells-cbs-bob-schieffer-we-do-not-have-a-debt-crisis/
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CathyvanDyke
Posted on March 17, 2013 at 11:05pm“The best way to control the opposition is to lead it ourselves.” – Vladimir Ilyich Lenin
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pooka_yc
Posted on March 18, 2013 at 4:55am@Devain
Good point.
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ambrosia
Posted on March 18, 2013 at 8:23am@ DEVAIN
Kudos !
Your statement alone
PROVES that YOU should be hosting “DeFace the Nation”
and not GranPapa Schieffer….
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Stoic one
Posted on March 17, 2013 at 10:14pmJust because the jack-wads in Washington can still ‘print’ does not mean there is not a crisis. What are they waiting for, the money well to go dry?
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drs1969
Posted on March 18, 2013 at 12:22amThey’re hoping the banks’ balance sheets will be repaired before the dollar becomes toilet paper. That’s why they say these things. They know the ‘Bernanke Bucks’ will keep flowing till the nation collapses. They’re completely in the banks’ back pocket.
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NigelTufnel
Posted on March 17, 2013 at 10:03pmBefore Obama co-opted medicare into Obamacare, it was losing 250 billion a year. Every year we had to pass the “doctor fix” in order to save it. It didn’t seem like that big of deal when in 2007 Bush’s deficit was only 147 billion so we would’ve had a surplus that year of 100 billion if medicare was balanced. Obamacare only shuffled the shells. Without a budget in 4 years it’s hard to say how much it is losing. Soc. Sec. has only recently gone into the red on a yearly basis and not by that much. The dems have gotten everything they dreamed of. Big slashes to defense spending and a tax hike on the rich and we are still projected to lose 850 billion this year. Subtract the interest on our debt and we are down to 580 billion a year in loses. But if the interest rate rises to what it was in 2007, our annual interest payment becomes nearly 1 trillion a year. To say we are not in immediate danger is a lie. A raging economy is now something our government now fears as they will have to pay more interest because rates will have to be raised to control inflation. Which is why you have Jeff Imelt saying, “3% growth is good….8% growth is bad!”
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drs1969
Posted on March 18, 2013 at 12:30amNo, they won’t. Bernanke buys the the debt, suppressing the rates. This creates inflation that comes out of everyone’s pockets. The only hope I see, is the FED has bought most of it’s legally allowed amount of debt at 70%. Hopefully, as they bump up against this limit, it will stop their ability to suppress rates. I’d bet, if that were to occur, the Congress will swiftly pass a law allowing them to buy more,or all, of the Treasury’s debt. This would buy them a few more years. 30% of the debt is about $4.8 trillion, or another 3 years, at the current pace of debt issuance. Then rates skyrocket and take down the house of cards.
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maggiepie
Posted on March 17, 2013 at 10:01pm2 more to add to the list of got yo GO. Boehner & Ryan. 2014 is coming. Doesn’t take much for Obama
to charm the RINO’s. A little lunch or dinner and it’s done. Everybody is happy, happy, happy.
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joey g
Posted on March 17, 2013 at 10:25pmright on both of these clowns are rino/repukins of the first order…
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denkat56
Posted on March 17, 2013 at 9:52pmWe are up to our necks in a money crisis, the fact that Obama the boy king says were not just proves it.
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soybomb315_II
Posted on March 17, 2013 at 9:48pmIs Paul Ryan aware that the federal reserve is providing the government almost all of their deficit spending? Is he aware that printing money/inflation is a tax?
Seriously, for paul ryan to act like the situation is normal at this point in time shows complete ignorance on his part. Someone who is well versed in economics and the federal reserve would not make such a claim
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drs1969
Posted on March 18, 2013 at 12:33amWell versed and well paid, under the table, no doubt. In gold, probably. Who would want any of that funny money, Bernanke Bucks.
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workathomer
Posted on March 17, 2013 at 9:42pm30-30 and 3 for 30. A. Obama’s deficit spending of 1.3 trillion this year is 30 times the 44 billion is sequester reductions. B. Almost 30 lobbyists in D.C. for each member of the House and Senate. C. 3 new amendments to the Constitution should be submitted simultaneously: Balanced Budget Amend, Term Limits and No lobbyist allowed in D.C. – make them lobby in the home district/state of the reps.
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moreoilplease
Posted on March 18, 2013 at 12:38amAll great ideas. Wonderful ideas actually. Except that none of it is possible, right now. They can’t balance the budget. Not without massive economic, social destruction. Not “a little pain”. The time to fix this was probably 30 years ago. Add the feds systematic destruction of the dollar over a long period and accelerated in the last 5 years, massive fraud and corruption from top to bottom, many, many years of political kick the can down the road, a bureaucracy so large and inept that it’s sheer incompetence can’t be described accurately, wall street deregulation turned into no regulation created a fiscal black hole of hundreds of trillions of dollars, I could go on and on.
Add all that up and we’re just throwing rocks at the moon. In the current paradigm, term limits and balanced budgets will not happen. When it all blows up will be the opportunity to restore.
When the above machine, as I call it, is broken into a thousand pieces, when we return to sound money, when we shun debt and seek and destroy corruption wherever it is found, then term limits, balanced budgets, etc. will be only natural. I would add congressional pay should be no more than the median income of US households, congress meets 6 times a year. So no living in DC. I could think of many more. The trick will be to survive the reset without losing the constitution. A miracle is needed for sure!
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truthnstuff
Posted on March 17, 2013 at 9:41pmCan someone tell me how increasing the budget (NET) each year can be called balancing the budget? HOW ABOUT CUTTING GOVERNMENT DEPARTMENTS.
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workathomer
Posted on March 17, 2013 at 9:37pm14,000 lobbyists in D.C. – that 26 lobbyists PER member of Congress. Lobbyists freely admit they control the Senators and Representatives so that the government is of, by and for the lobbyists. They smugly say they have the Reps’ ears and attention Tues. – Thurs. each week, plying the them campaign contribution promises. Then the Reps just go back home and tell the constituents whatever they want to hear. Even so-called Republicans are openly & brazenly ignoring we the people as evidence by Boehner’s and Ryan’s statements.
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woodyee
Posted on March 17, 2013 at 9:36pmThese are the guys George Will wants to roll in the hay with – Boehner, McCain, Grahamnesty, Rubio, Christie…
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soybomb315_II
Posted on March 17, 2013 at 9:50pmYup, the #3 in charge and the nominee for the VP sit down and agree with the liar in chief. Sounds like time for a new party
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Triple7
Posted on March 17, 2013 at 9:34pmThis pretend opposing factions of Government. Demicans and Republicrats.
They feign holy hell against Ryan and in turn he feigns outrage. It is all a show for the masses.
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chips1
Posted on March 17, 2013 at 9:26pmNotice how the enemy opens their mouths and prove they are all part of the same party?
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Triple7
Posted on March 17, 2013 at 9:29pmMasters and slaves.
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1TrueOne55
Posted on March 17, 2013 at 10:01pmIts just back to the future, Republicans came out of the Democrat-Republican Party of 1850′s because Republicans were against slavery and Democrats were not.
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SPOT_OF_TEA
Posted on March 17, 2013 at 9:20pmIt seems everytime Obama’s poll numbers start to slip,out pops a couple of republicans to make us look like a bunch of idiots…How in hell,after everything Paul Ryan has said over the past 4 years,could he go on TV today and declare there is no debt problem?I dont know of anyone in Washington we can trust who isnt in on this scam.
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geeman
Posted on March 17, 2013 at 9:15pmAcording to b-rock it was unpatriotic to run up this much debt under G.W. now it’s armagedon to cut 2% of growth. Anybody who still belives this lying pos is a fool. Don’t bother reminding us trolls,we know who you are.
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ares338
Posted on March 17, 2013 at 9:00pmOh great…now that Republicans agreed with this one quote…..the Socialist in chief will SPEND..SPEND…SPEND even more. Not that this would have stopped him anyway!
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13th Imam
Posted on March 17, 2013 at 8:57pmHey John and Paul , tell Ringo of the Floppy Ears that if I had 2000 different credit cards going and could only pay 60 % of them every month, and could only pay them by borrowing from my enemy and my children, my creditors would tend to get cranky. While He of the giant ears can’t see the spending problem, our people should at least be able to see an elephant in the room.
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truthnstuff
Posted on March 17, 2013 at 9:24pmAnd there we have it. Our guy, the conservative, Ryan. NOT, you phreeekin RINO. They eventually show their true inner self, and cross the aisle to hug the Marxists. That’s their identifying lingo, “we need to work together”. Rubio has been saying the same things. Rand Paul, Ted Cruz, Mike Lee, and a few others are still holding to principle.
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soybomb315_II
Posted on March 17, 2013 at 9:59pma great many people on this website said they voted for romney because of paul ryan…..
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13th Imam
Posted on March 17, 2013 at 10:10pma great many people on this site stayed home and voted for Barry
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soybomb315_II
Posted on March 17, 2013 at 10:22pmi read these comments alot. 13th, i only saw a couple people say they did that
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Triple7
Posted on March 17, 2013 at 11:23pmSOYBOMB315_II
Posted on March 17, 2013 at 9:59pm
a great many people on this website said they voted for romney because of paul ryan…..
And a great many people were duped. It happens when you are given candidates based on illusion. Then you pinch your nose and pick the lessor of two evils. Only to find the margin is extremely narrow.
It is a fricken oligarchy.
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moreoilplease
Posted on March 17, 2013 at 11:56pmNo politician will be forthright when it it comes to debt, spending and monetary policy. And yes soy, that includes Dr. Paul. While he spoke of sound money etc. for years, which was always music to my ears, he never really laid bare the hard realities of our predicament. And it was for good reason. The national debt is much more than 17 trillion. Future outlays for entitlements make it mathematically impossible to handle under the current monetary system. I could go on and on. If the masses begin to get the idea that there is no easy way out of this, it will hasten the event horizon. Be glad that the masses don’t understand (believe) yet where this is going. Those that will listen already are.
Politically, the Washington machine must be broken into a thousand pieces. Otherwise, whoever you send, The Dr. Paul’s, Rubio, whoever it is will be swallowed and spit out as Lindsey Graham or McCain. Seen this movie too many times. Ask Jim Demint about the machine and your core principles. You just cannot prepare a freshmen senator or congressperson for the buzz saw of the machine.
You wanna squabble about Ryan or Romney or should’ve voted for this guy or that guy, feel free. Or, “your principles aren’t EXACTLY like mine” so you must be x,y or z”. It seems like a waste of time to me. Just my opinion. I’m thinking from the crash/reset and beyond.
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soybomb315_II
Posted on March 18, 2013 at 12:12am@No More
“he never really laid bare the hard realities of our predicament”
Actually, in the debates Ron Paul talked openly about the complete collapse of the dollar and the american way of life. I dont know how much reality you want than that. Those were nationally televised debates. I doubt those words have EVER been spoken on that kind of stage. He didnt give a cr@p about being PC – thats why he was the man for the job. I dont think we make it to 2016 but i like to act as if we will
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TIME_2_END_THE_PAUL_CAMPAIGN_IN_12
Posted on March 18, 2013 at 8:19amSOY wrote…. “Actually, in the debates Ron Paul talked openly about the complete collapse of the dollar and the american way of life.”
Didn’t hear that over the boos and Paul’s incessant prattling and warrrrrrr-mongerrrring noise. Ron Paul was a great throwback to the old “Gong Show.” An amateur performer of dubious talent. Was always waiting for the coup de grace when it came to Paul at the debates…. the “Gong.”
Rick Perry had it right… Lol.
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Norm D. Plume
Posted on March 18, 2013 at 4:11pm@Time:
Perhaps, instead of booing and hissing so loud you couldn’t hear anything, you should have actually shut your fat yap and opened your ears.
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michael48
Posted on March 17, 2013 at 8:55pmlib-nomics 101====we’re broke , so let’ spend it….DC is delusional???…at best…oBlamos actions are intentional???…perhaps…either way, the out come is the same…not a hell of a lot of time left, should be getting close to running out of trees and ink…
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OBUMAURMAMA
Posted on March 17, 2013 at 8:53pmWonder how many knee pads he goes through with Obama standing up, unzipped.
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BatesclanMary
Posted on March 17, 2013 at 8:51pmRight now using the credit card were fine but what they are saying is we won’t be when interest payments go up and there going to
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LBJDIDIT1963
Posted on March 17, 2013 at 8:50pmFirst the Senate has not done their duty and passed a budget during the Obama Dictatorship. So if they don’t follow the US Constitution, why are they even there? Would you re-hire (vote) for someone that doesn’t fulfill their fundamental responsibility? FIRE THEM ALL!
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ammypearson
Posted on March 17, 2013 at 8:40pmWOW, and how many Repubs got mad because people like me voted for Ron Paul????
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SciPro
Posted on March 17, 2013 at 8:36pmNo Debt crisis,? … Being 17 trillion in debt, means someone else owns us .. I would say that’s a crisis.
When leaders are blind .. we have a leadership crisis! …
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OBUMAURMAMA
Posted on March 17, 2013 at 8:54pmProblem is that he and the rest of the RINOs aren’t blind.
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