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Elizabeth Warren Wonders: Why Aren’t Employers Paying $22-an-Hour Minimum Wage Rates?
Democrat Senator Elizabeth Warren during a hearing of the Senate Committee on Health, Education, Labor and Pensions last week asked why the current federal minimum wage rate is only $7.25 and not $22 an hour.
“If we started in 1960, and we said that, as productivity goes up — that is, as workers are producing more — then the minimum wage is going to go up the same,” the Massachusetts senator said during the hearing.
“And, if that were the case, the minimum wage today would be about $22 an hour. So, my question … is what happened to the other $14.75?” she asked University of Massachusetts professor of economics Arindrajit Dube:
In her apparent support for an increase in the federal standard, Sen. Warren joins President Barack Obama in suggesting that the current minimum wage rate should be increased.
The president during his State of the Union Address in February called on Congress to raise the federal minimum rate to $9 an hour.
“We know our economy’s stronger when we reward an honest day’s work with honest wages. But today, a full-time worker making the minimum wage earns $14,500 a year. Even with the tax relief we’ve put in place, a family with two kids that earns the minimum wage still lives below the poverty line. That’s wrong,” he said.
“That’s why, since the last time this Congress raised the minimum wage, 19 states have chosen to bump theirs even higher,” he added. “Tonight, let’s declare that, in the wealthiest nation on Earth, no one who works full time should have to live in poverty — and raise the federal minimum wage to $9 an hour.”
However, as many, many economists argue, whether it’s $9 or $22, an exponential increase in the federal standard could have a disastrous effect on the economy (not to mention the deleterious effect the minimum wage itself already has on the free market).
First, a higher rate would force employers to cut back on hiring. Second, do you have any idea what an increase in the cost of labor would do to the cost of products/services? Third, the argument itself for blindly increasing the rate, with disregard for regional cost of living, leaves something be desired: If merely raising the rate from $7.25 to $9 or $22 would solve “income inequality” and unemployment problems, then why not just increase the rate to $50, $100, or even $1,000?
Lastly, if increasing minimum wage is a cure-all for unemployment and “income inequality,” consider this list of the top 10 states with the highest unemployment rates in the U.S. (the states with minimum wages higher than the federal standard are in boldface):
10. GEORGIA (Unemployment Rate/Minimum Wage Rate: 8.7/$7.25)
9. SOUTH CAROLINA (8.7/$7.25)
8. MICHIGAN (8.9/$7.40)
7. ILLINOIS (9.0/$8.25)
6. MISSISSIPPI (9.3/$7.25)
5. NEW JERSEY (9.5/$7.25)
4. NORTH CAROLINA (9.5/$7.25)
3. NEVADA (9.7/$8.25)
2. CALIFORNIA (9.8/$8.00)
1. RHODE ISLAND (9.8/$7.75)
Just some food for thought.
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media-bias-steals-elections
Posted on March 18, 2013 at 1:49pmI tell you what, when you can explain to me, how actors on the popular show “Good Times” could be so hard working, and so full of family values, but still vote for Democrats after all these years without realizing that Ghettos helped keep the demand for minimum wage down, you might have the answer?
You might have an answer why the mimimum wage stays down when employees do not have purchase health care on their own, or have their employers help contribute to 401Ks? You might have an answer when you figure out why you pay people with 4 year college degrees 6 figures, and people with 20 years of experience 5 figures, you might have an answer?
We might have an answer when the Catholic Church, can explain what it means to not value things in the flesh, and not lay up treasure here on earth, but be fruitful and multiply? That’s an answer for the private industry to ask itself, do they have an ethical problem, or a math comprehension problem? We’ve been asking the government these questions for decades, its clear they have no idea?
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The-Monk
Posted on March 18, 2013 at 1:57pm“If we started in 1960, and we said that, as productivity goes up — that is, as workers are producing more — then the minimum wage is going to go up the same…”
I have some news for you Elizabeth…… productivity is down in the USA.
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Cavallo
Posted on March 18, 2013 at 2:00pmWhat 4 year college degree is getting 6 figures? I might scrounge some money and go back for a different degree.
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kenboo1
Posted on March 18, 2013 at 2:12pmHere is a Senator that wouldn’t be if the State Legislature were electing Senators… http://www.repeal17.net I can not imagine even super left state such as Massachusetts electing her if the legislature were still represented in the federal government…
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Cavallo
Posted on March 18, 2013 at 2:16pmWarren has the economic ignorance of a thespian college major. Leftists don’t comprehend profit, costs, margins, productivity, and efficiency. They have the mentality of a two year old as they stamp their feet and scream, “Me want! Me want now!”. Strangely, two year olds have more understanding of economics than thespian college majors.
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Darmok and Jalad at Tanagra
Posted on March 18, 2013 at 2:22pmHey Monk: I am for making a minimum wage for congress, say $22 an hour. Sounds good to me Senator Warren.
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McPunchpants
Posted on March 18, 2013 at 2:22pm@Media Bias
Why do you end every run-on sentence with a question mark? Why? Why? Why?
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michaelmoron
Posted on March 18, 2013 at 2:29pmI hate the woman, but she is right.
When I came out of High school in 1983, ANY entry-level job, with NO experience or HS diploma, was $6 an hour.
If wages had stayed equal with inflation, the same job would pay $18 per hour, today.
Her and her ilk are responsible for the National Debt and this inflation. Not You and I.
A minimum wage of $22 an hour would kill businesses and jobs, at this time.
Inflation is due to us not printing our own money based on a tangible asset.
A fiat currency kills us.
“People who will not turn a shovel of dirt on the project, nor contribute a pound of material, will collect more money, from the United States, than will the people, who supply all the material and do all the work. This is the terrible thing about interest… But here is the point: If the nation can issue a dollar bond, it can also issue a dollar bill. The element that makes the bond good, makes the bill good, also. The difference, between the bond and the bill, is that the bond lets the money-broker collect twice the amount of the bond, and an additional 20%. Whereas the currency, the honest sort, provided by the Constitution, pays nobody, but those, who contribute in some useful way. It is absurd, to say that our country can issue bonds, and cannot issue currency. Both are promises to pay, but one fattens the usurer and the other helps the people.”
– Thomas Edison
JFK knew:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qYVCIdrcS6k
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RJJinGadsden
Posted on March 18, 2013 at 2:31pmDARMOK , Best post of the day. I certainly do agree with that, and keep to that amount period. No expense accounts either. Would be a good start to get the nation’s pocket book back in order.
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redfish52
Posted on March 18, 2013 at 2:33pmAnd the thing is this silly b**** doesn’t think that somehow the employers are not going to pass this cost down to the consumer to which now the employee’s cost of living just went up. No winners here.
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The-Monk
Posted on March 18, 2013 at 2:35pmHi Darmok,
She probably makes more than $44K a year trading in donations for stamps and keeping the change.
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michaelmoron
Posted on March 18, 2013 at 2:43pmWe were warned. “depressions will be scientifically created.”
“This [Federal Reserve Act] establishes the most gigantic trust on earth. When the President Wilson signs this bill, the invisible government of the monetary power will be legalized….the worst legislative crime of the ages is perpetrated by this banking and currency bill. From now on, depressions will be scientifically created.”
– Charles A. Lindbergh, Sr., 1913
“Behind the ostensible (visible) government sits enthroned an invisible government owing no allegiance and acknowledging no responsibility to the people. To destroy this invisible government, to befoul the unholy alliance between corrupt business and corrupt politics is the first task of the statesmanship of today.”
– Theodore Roosevelt
“The Federal Reserve is one of the most corrupt institutions the world has ever seen. There is not a man within the sound of my voice (On the House floor) who does not know that this Nation is run by the international bankers.”
– Congressman Louis T. McFadden
“The real truth of the matter is that a financial element in the large centers has owned the government since the days of Andrew Jackson.”
– President FD Roosevelt (1933-1945)
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The_Cabrito_Goat
Posted on March 18, 2013 at 2:44pmI know people who would easily settle for 9 dollars an hour….for the rest of their life. This saddens me, because I KNOW they have far more potential than being vice-president of keeping bums out of the entry way at Taco Bell.
Minimum wage placates people to want less of themselves, and increases the number of people who will never fulfill themselves, who they were meant to be.
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desertspeaks
Posted on March 18, 2013 at 2:46pmfrom the mouth of “elizabeth warren” someone who’s never had a real job in her entire life.. brazenly open’s it and spews more bs rhetoric about something she knows less than zero about.
and she’s a harvard grad, anyone surprised?? apparently harvard only produces COMMUNISTS anymore!
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00100111
Posted on March 18, 2013 at 2:50pmWhy aren’t they? Because bottom of the barrel laborers aren’t worth $22/hr. If they pay that much for button pushers, they’ll have to increase proportionately the pay for skilled labor and professionals. This will cause prices for goods and services to go up as costs are pushed to the consumer, then we’ll be right back in the same boat, just with higher numbers.
Geez, why do socialists not understand economics?
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mikem1969
Posted on March 18, 2013 at 2:51pmI have a message for warren is an idiot. Government production is waaaaaaaayyyyyyyy down, and government employees don’t care about productivity because it takes an act of God to terminate them. This is easily proven in all of the REDUNDANT government jobs that exist. In fact, if you get rid of all of the REDUNDANT government jobs, the federal workforce would be reduced by 30% to 50%. Wow, imagine the savings there. But then there is a problem, you would have to actually make the government employees left DO THEIR JOBS.
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naughtycal
Posted on March 18, 2013 at 2:55pmSomeone tell this harpie that employers could pay more if they were taxed to death.
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Brooke Lorren
Posted on March 18, 2013 at 3:29pmMy husband gets his doctorate in a month and a half and gets paid $10 an hour. He’ll probably get paid more once he gets a post-doctorate job once he graduates, but he is certainly not unskilled. That’s just what the market will pay… especially since he has a lot of flexibility in his hours so he can go to school.
I probably am getting paid about $1.50 per hour in my small business… but that’s better than when I started, when I earned less than $.50 per hour worked. I get paid based on who buys or reads my stuff; I have more products available now than 4 years ago, and people are still buying things that I created a long time ago. I am unlikely to ever be fired though, because I ONLY get paid when I make my clients money.
Neither me nor my husband are clamoring to get paid more. I know that my income will increase over time, and my husband will probably get paid more once he starts working full time after graduation. One thing that starting a business has taught me, is that to get paid, you have to be bringing in a profit. There’s only so much profit a person brings to the company. A burger flipper selling $5 burgers is only bringing their company so much profit. If they were bringing more profit into the company, then they could demand a pay increase, go somewhere else that would, or start their own company.
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Vision Harry
Posted on March 18, 2013 at 3:46pmElizabeth Warren Wonders: Where did I leave my head dress? In my office in DC, or in my office in the states capitol, or in one of the offices in every city of my district? Oh well, Time to pass a new bill.
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MAULEMALL
Posted on March 18, 2013 at 3:50pmDats what day makes on da reservation….
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PATTY HENRY
Posted on March 18, 2013 at 4:13pmWarren is so bad that she defies description. Okay Let’s start with lowering all of the Gov. Salaries to one thing, regardless of what you do. THEN, let’s do away with MINIMUM WAGE entirely. LET THE MARKET dictate the wage. Make the employee pay for their own INSURANCE and don’t require Employers to do this. Same with 401K’s. The person paying the best wages and helping with the best benefits will win. BUT no SENATOR/CONGRESS person (Staff person etc) should make more than (name it) dollars and certainly NEVER more than same job in Private Sector.
The GOBMENT has -0- money of it’s own and no way to make money!!!
Yes, Elizabeth, we can “fix this” we’ll start with YOU.
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HOLYCOWBATMAN
Posted on March 18, 2013 at 4:14pm@MICHAELMORON
What state did you graduate HS in 1983 that paid an UNBELIEVABLE $6.00 an hour?
An entry level job (aka minimum experience=minimum pay) was $2.90 in California that year. It raised to $3.35 in 1984. My boss at Dairy Queen had to raise the cost of a Dilly Bar to cover his overhead in payroll. Keep it real.
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searcher619
Posted on March 18, 2013 at 4:36pmA college degree USED to increase your chances of getting paid better than the average. That was when not many people in the work force had college degrees. Today they are dime a dozen. Try to remember a college degree doesn’t mean anything. Colleges don’t prep you to work in the real world if you aren’t going for a teaching or science based degree. These days actual experience counts for more than a college degree in many fields these days. While I was going to college I knew more than the people I was working under. Why? Because since I was in 7th grade I taught myself computer programming, hardware troubleshooting, network design and instillation. I went to college because I was told i had to. I was VERY pissed when I realized I didn’t earn anything important to my chosen field. Everything I needed to know I already knew. It was a HUGE waste of money.
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michaelmoron
Posted on March 18, 2013 at 4:54pm@HOLYCOWBATMAN
I always keep it real.
I sometimes (rarely) make mistakes.
I stand corrected. The minimum wage was $3.35.
I was going on memory. I thought the minimum wage was $5.15 at that time.
Most jobs paid a little more than Minimum, so I guess most started out at about $4 per hour.
I remember making $6 per hour, in very little time ( That is why I mistakingly thought I started at that rate )
Even at $4 per hour x 300% overall inflation = about a $12 minimum wage.
Congratulations on that abberation.
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Mulder1
Posted on March 18, 2013 at 5:04pmThe unemployment rate and inflation would skyrocket if Congress did this. She is a fool.
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NickPhree
Posted on March 18, 2013 at 5:12pmWow! She has no clue where the other money went?? How about the cost of medicare, increases in ss costs, increased taxes on companies, government regulations and all the money that has to be spend hiring attorneys and accountants to make sure companies are compliant. A lot has changed since 1960 as far as what the government costs companies in order to conduct business. So, “what happened to the other $14.75?” —- The United States Federal and State government has spent it. If you want to increase minimum wage: Start by looking in the mirror and then Return ALL corporate/company taxes back to 1960 levels and get rid of all the other regulations/bureaucracies that suck the life and money out of businesses and the employees pockets.
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artistskeptic
Posted on March 18, 2013 at 5:29pmIs the Cherokee Princess actually so stupid that she cannot understand that the floor sweepers and burger flipper covered by minimum wage do not contribute to the national productivity.
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Captain America
Posted on March 18, 2013 at 5:30pmWhy is this fake Indian still opening her ridiculous mouth? She is a proven liar. What is needed is a stringent enforcement of the law regarding elected officials. Because it is not, people like (insert any democrat) here are immune to legal ramifications. I am not saying that repubs are much better, (John McCain), but the Ronald Reagan pack are a whole lot more caring, giving, and loving than anything the ******** can put forth. If you use the bible as guidance, the dems are morally decrepit.
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Leezah
Posted on March 18, 2013 at 6:09pmI’m not sure where you made $6 an hour either to start in 1983. I was an accounts receivable clerk with 3 years of job experience – no college in southeastern MA. When I left that job to have my son I made a whopping $4.67 an hour. I think minimum wage at that time was around $3.50. I would have been thrilled with $6 an hour!
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turkey13
Posted on March 18, 2013 at 6:16pmWarren doesn’t get it – all those workers at Mickey D’s are stoned and are happy to make $8.00 an hour as long as they don’t have to take a drug test. My sons have a construction company and they have to do regular drug test even for them selves or their insurence arrier will drop them. Same for workers comp.
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FormerLib
Posted on March 18, 2013 at 6:25pmThank you, Massachusetts, for putting one more economically illiterate moron in a position to ruin all our lives.
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negativegforces
Posted on March 18, 2013 at 7:06pmThis woman is quoting from Karl Marx… Look it up. She only knows that capitalism is bad!!! Wherever she comes from; she should be voted out.
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dmerwin
Posted on March 18, 2013 at 8:02pmApparently, she desires 78% unemployment not 7.8%. Can you imagine what a burger would cost? Ever see the picture of the old German man in the 1930s with a wheelbarrow full of money to buy a loaf of bread? On the other hand if minimum wage was $22/hour a schoolteacher, nurse or police officer would make over a million a year and then Warren’s ilk could tax the crap out of us.
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dmerwin
Posted on March 18, 2013 at 8:06pmAnd another depressor on hourly wages are those illegals who happily work for LESS than minimum wage.
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oneshiner
Posted on March 18, 2013 at 8:12pmElizabeth, for an Indian, you’re dumb as rocks.
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Wolfgang the Gray
Posted on March 18, 2013 at 8:20pmMinimum wage $22/hr? I hope you will enjoy paying $75.00 for a medium pizza or $16.00 for a Big Mac. The costs of employers paying their people more are ALWAYS passed on to the consumer.
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tootsie roll
Posted on March 18, 2013 at 8:23pmYou sound like you hate Catholics and embrace Socialism.
That seems very clear to me
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pissantno.10
Posted on March 18, 2013 at 8:28pmminimum wage was for school kids working part time jobs when i was growing up. not for people raiseing a family , if you try to do that than you are a dumb a..s. all so i work with mechanics who are makeing over a 100 k a year. so much for higher education
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13th Generation American
Posted on March 18, 2013 at 9:07pmI swear, the people who comment here most assuredly make less that $22.00 per hour. Just keep voting against your self interest, you will get exactly what you have. A bunch of guns, a bible and living just above the poverty line. And for what? To prove that you are as stupid as the powers that control you through divide and conquer want you to be. Your own party makes fools of you to vote for them and keep chasing that carrot at then end of that rope.
I actually would feel sorry for you if you had one ounce of empathy for real people whose moms are struggling on Social Security and now your masters want to voucher their medicaid. Shame on you.
Sons of the American Revolution
S.A.R.
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ijava44
Posted on March 18, 2013 at 10:03pmBecause employers can’t print money or confiscate it against their customers will.
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scarydave
Posted on March 19, 2013 at 12:24amWarren has NO RIGHT asking the question to begin with. It should NOT be the governments business setting any sort of wages in the free and open market, only the employer and the employee set the wage. Period. Alas, we fool ourselves into thinking we have a free and open market. Just another one of a thousand cuts the government puts on it’s people. All we need is a few more cuts and we the people will be cut to death.
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marssnw
Posted on March 19, 2013 at 12:50amIf minimum wage was 22 dollars a hour, there would be only people working fast food. Actually there would be only one person working the whole store and a hamburger would be 14 dollars at Mcdonalds. This woman is plain stupid. Making 22 dollars a hour minimum wage sounds good until you see what it does to everything else around you. Its not logical and there is no way in hell a fast food worker should be making the same amount as a skilled construction worker or a manager of some sort. Its just ridiculous. You want to make more money? Go to school or get a trade. You are not worth 22 a hour at Mcdonalds, unless you are the store manager.
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redfish52
Posted on March 19, 2013 at 7:47amWhy couldn’t a white man a couple hundred years ago have been a better shot and killed off this twisted branch of the tree?
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SamIamTwo
Posted on March 19, 2013 at 9:44amShe is the one that oversaw the spending spree under Obama and later promoted for her intentional incompetency…she is a card carrying commie.
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000degrees
Posted on March 19, 2013 at 9:56amShe may be an economic moron but she does have lovely high cheekbones…….
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Proverbs17-12NLT
Posted on March 19, 2013 at 9:58amAAuugh the federal government took the other $14.75 and some you stupid Biatch
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Skeptical Observer
Posted on March 19, 2013 at 10:33amIs there a cogent thought (or question) in there somewhere?
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lisa61
Posted on March 19, 2013 at 10:36amBack in the days of common sense.. Min. wage was just for high school kids working at the local gas station or diner..
WHEN was it ever intended to be a living wage ??????????????
22.00 a hour ??????????? that would just put more people on the GOV dole..
hum ……….perhaps that is their plan ?
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jeffersonian1776
Posted on March 19, 2013 at 11:25amHow come libs never talk about the LAWS of SUPPLY and DEMAND? Elizabeth, darling, I must inform you that the laws of supply and demand justify ALL price levels, including but not limited to, labor.
Jeffrey Tucker of the MIses Institute, in a speech he gave on the “Morality of Capitalism” explained how the market, especially when free or, thus Laissez-Faire, works to the benefit of all. In his speech he talked about a conversation that he had with a woman who was more or less a “socialist,” who was talking about a specific business whom hires mostly women and pays them “below average” according to her. His daughter happened to be there at the same time, a mere little girl, who was listening to the woman complain about this greedy business. His daughter responded to the woman, telling her that “it seems that she has a great business opportunity right before her eyes.” She could open a similar business and have all these underpaid employees working for her. Jeffrey explained the look of shock and disgust on this woman’s face when she heard this come out of a little GIRL who was “clearly not being ‘educated’ correctly.” But he also explained how his daughter was very astute in economics whereas this woman knew nothing about how economics work. The woman clearly did not understand that opening another business would have been the best thing for these “underpaid” women. That is because the businesses would have to compete for these women’s labor and offer more
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chingachgook
Posted on March 19, 2013 at 11:35amThis woman is a college professor, a corrupt one who attained here position at Harvard though filling a minority slot as a female Native Indian. That my friends is called fraud! It was a fraud aided by a school administration who cared not about Indians or anyone else for that matter. They only wanted to check the block. (Schools are now big business.) When this was brought out in her election process it made no difference to the low information voter. The voters ultimately get what they deserve. If you listen to her you cleanly see the hypocrisy that she is steeped in. She literally has no idea how businesses run with low paying jobs that are filled with kids entering the work force, or someone supplementing an other income either a spouses or their own. She has another professor do a study and that is taken as fact as she clearly ignores the people running businesses You pay these entry level positions $22 or more and you think that this will not cause inflation, and loss of jobs? What planet are you on. Inflation is surely coming and will make every one equal. Equally Poor! The only people who will escape it are people who own real things, money will be worthless. I can not figure out if she is part of the collapse the economy crowd or just an example of the air headed professor class. Just imagine what these people are capable of. She lies to get her position. So it is OK for her to commit fraud but not for you. It is a scarry time for us all.
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paultard
Posted on March 19, 2013 at 3:00pmBased on the value of silver and a starting point of 1964 when minimum wage was 1.25 = 5 silver quarters. Today the value of the same five quarters based on their silver content is $ 26.21. With that being said AND counting inflation $1.25 ( minimum wage) in 1964 = $26.21 minimum wage today.
THAT is your argument for mismanaging the currency! The Federal Reserve IS the problem.. Ms. Warren misses the point DELIBERATELY! She knows the reason why and it’s the FEDeral Reserve. FIX THE DAMN MONEY and the problem goes away!
http://www.silverdoctors.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/03/Minimum_wage.png
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Kregneva
Posted on March 19, 2013 at 3:15pmBoy, it’s a good thing Congress “filibustered” to keep her from being appointed to head Obama’s Consumer Bureau in 2011. Now she a FULL Member is on the Senate Banking and Judicial committees and helping set up MULTIPLE new consumer protection agencies instead of just the original. D-Oh!
@The-Monk, you are not serious that USA productivity is “down” are you?
In 1960 no offices had internet or PC, now they are on every desk. TCP/IP was established in the early 1980′s, and productivity has exponentially increased ever since. As a computer genius, of course you know that.
Geez, if YOUR productivity was frozen since 1960, you would only be making something like, “just under $4,000.00 a year” – less than a 17 year old 10 Hr/Wk Domino’s pizza delivery person (without any tips).
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OldSkoolDJ
Posted on March 19, 2013 at 3:29pmAs a resident of Massachusetts, please accept my apology for our once decent Commonwealth inflicting yet another buffoon on the United States.
She holds a hearing about minimum wages and asks another professor for information. Of course, because no business person would say the things she wants to hear.
Fauxchohontas was elected when the SEIU mobilized thousands of voters in Mass and many were not residents here. She is the living example of how the Democrat party has been co-opted by the leftists hell bent to take over the US. The next candidate to receive this treatment is Ed Markey, who is a lifelong Congressman from Mass, and now wants to replace John Kerry. His campaign is being funded and promoted by the SEIU.
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antiprogressive
Posted on March 19, 2013 at 4:06pmQuit listening to “experts” and think for yourselves.
Raising the minimum wage also raises everyone ELSE’S wage – obviously.
if they raise the newhire pay, they will have to raise the oldheads pay as well.
When everyone has more money – we all SPEND more money and buy more stuff.
By buying more stuff – demand increases.
When demand increases PRICES increase to match…
End result?
No Change – except that EVERY number is larger than it used to be…
While I obviously disagree with this financial moron, I DO agree that when corporations are hitting record profits, the stock market is at an all time high, and NEW cash is flowing into the economy at a rate of 68B from the government, it doesn’t make sense that average wages for the working are staying level or dropping – especially when considering inflation.
In Japan the CEOs salaries are limited to something like 100x the lowest paid full time worker in the company.
In America it is WAY more than that. 600x or so.
Europe is 300x roughly.
-per an article I read recently – wish I could cite it as backup…
SO FAR, the gvmt here can’t legally limit corporate top payouts – and I don’t think they should be ABLE to.
But a Corporate MORAL PROMISE with America (as in Japan) would be nice – and solve some of these same problems.
But don’t hold your breath for THAT…
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IMCHRISTIAN
Posted on March 18, 2013 at 1:48pmWhy don’t we bring the senator’s wages down to $22 with no benefits. She must think she is better then everyone else.
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Witness1974
Posted on March 18, 2013 at 2:06pmThat is a really good idea. I would add, 8 hour maximum with no overtime, retirement at age 67, social security, and Obamacare.
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Rightsofman
Posted on March 18, 2013 at 2:36pmIs unskilled labor really producing more than a decade ago? Does a Kmart cashier today out produce past cashiers? Do delivery boys deliver more now? Skilled labor naturally makes more because of their relative value to the employer not because they exist. Now having said that I have no answer for CEOs who oversee the bankruptcy of their companies getting million dollar bonuses at the public expense.
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soybomb315_II
Posted on March 18, 2013 at 3:57pmI hope republicans are willing to stand up and fight the minimum wage battle on principle because the left is red hot on this issue
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Witness1974
Posted on March 18, 2013 at 6:46pmI’m with you SOYBOMB. But hoping the Republicans will stand up for anything is like hoping boiled spaghetti will stand up and dance.
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AnimalsAsLeaders
Posted on March 18, 2013 at 7:43pm@RIGHTSOFMAN
The most poignant comment I’ve read on the topic all day. If you’re looking for a good laugh, check out the HuffPo comments on the story… No wonder these morons get elected…
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HumbleMan
Posted on March 18, 2013 at 9:59pmWhat’s ironic is “she knows she’s better than everyone else” … which shows you how much she knows.
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JohnofOregon
Posted on March 18, 2013 at 10:52pmTwo things are amazing here;
First, are there that many mentally impaired voters in mass that would vote for this load?
Next is ask yourself this; you 80 year old mother raises a family and works off and on her whole life. Liberal members of congress raid the social security trusts and lower the balances. When your mother applies they grant her the last three years earnings into a years worked formula. They give her $240 a month.
Mean while, HUD now buys lazy a’s homes and shells out welfare at $1500 bucks a month, 1500 more for housing, bullet proof healthcare, and discounts for city recreation services. So these career parasites are now approaching 65. What happens to calculate social security on these slugs that never had a job? Remember, disability is based on work also.
When you answer that riddle, you will then know why the us is bankrupt.
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naughtycal
Posted on March 19, 2013 at 9:02amSoy are you truely retarded or just posting retarded post.
The left is a55 deep in driving the cost of living beyond the means of simple people who work minium wage jobs. At 17 years old in 1987 I brought a car,rented my own apartment,and paid my own way just simply working at a car wash. making just above minium wage plus tips.
1Today the apartment alone would take just a little less than 2/3 the income. Housing and apartment prices are a direct results of LIBERAL REGULATIONS .
2 Food,gas,and elctrical today are f times what my cost were in 87. So I would be able to eat and have power. Those cost are direct results of liberal regulations and liberal civil attorneys.
3 Everything is more expensive due to taxation of business again Liberal policies
So the democrats hands are red with the blood of the economy they have murdered, but the only people who should be hot are the productive citizens whom they have raped,robbed,and impoverished to bride the not productive voting class
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Lordcsmith
Posted on March 18, 2013 at 1:48pmProduction has gone up because more people are producing. If I have one guy making french fries at 7 dollars an hour, I can up his pay to 14 an hour, charge more and get the same production level and a super happy fry guy, or I can hire a second fry guy, double my production and potentially charge less making for a super happy customer. Seems pretty easy for me to figure out.
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team1blazer
Posted on March 18, 2013 at 6:55pmDude, say what?
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loriann12
Posted on March 18, 2013 at 7:53pmYea, we don’t need a $40 Double Quarter Pounder with cheese.
This reminds me of the show with Sylvester Stalone where he got frozen for a crime, and woke up later, Demolition Man. They had a fast food war, and Taco Bell won out, so ALL the restuarants were Taco Bells, even the $100 a plate ones.
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RIDEMODELS
Posted on March 18, 2013 at 11:49pmIts America……start your own business and pay the Big Bloated Government a ton of taxes……get back to me on how many millions you will make off that private business venture.
Its sink or swim in America and Freedom has never been free……Work hard like everyone else and pray to god you can live long enough for a nice retirement……Ride a bicycle to work like I do and dont tell me about your health problems when you are 20yrs old……
You show enough initiative in the US and someone will see it, if you are a slouch then join the military and maybe they will teach you how to me a real Man……Bottom line is work and don’t Whine about it.
Big Bloated Government has never ever been the Answer……Just look at Venezuela…and Hugo Chavez.
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RIDEMODELS
Posted on March 18, 2013 at 11:52pmThe 20 dollar foot long…..Yeah perfect….
Put your time in and don’t cry to me about your problems, cause if you don’t have a job you could end up working for the Government like……..Ty Woods……Go ahead and take your chances with the Gov…..its not going to end well.
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Riponpundit
Posted on March 18, 2013 at 1:47pmStupid is as stupid does!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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truthnstuff
Posted on March 18, 2013 at 3:42pmMassachusetts keep setting new standards for stupidity.
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RIDEMODELS
Posted on March 18, 2013 at 11:54pmGas prices go down……Pay goes up…its a proven fact….
Drill Baby Drill…..!!!!!
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Zipit
Posted on March 18, 2013 at 1:46pmHeap big dumb Squaw, stay in tepee, cookum buffalo, not need minimum wage! Know nothing bout cost of labor, profit margin, cost of product, energy, and insurance costs!!! Heap big dumb Squaw!!!!
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FidgetforFreedom
Posted on March 18, 2013 at 2:25pmHysterical!
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ADarkSkinAmerican
Posted on March 18, 2013 at 3:18pm@ Zipit’s first remarks
That is funny!!
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Granny58
Posted on March 18, 2013 at 3:26pmHA HA HA HA true on so many levels!
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vendingdude
Posted on March 18, 2013 at 10:32pmbwahahahahahahahaha *chuckle* (snort)
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musicanimallvr
Posted on March 19, 2013 at 12:12amYou don’t seem to know about racism. Your comment is offensive. You need to keep your comments to yourself.
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Zipit
Posted on March 19, 2013 at 9:11amMUSIC! Wow, member since today!!!! How about, ” UP YER’S”!
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The-Monk
Posted on March 18, 2013 at 1:45pm“Tonight, let’s declare that, in the wealthiest nation on Earth, no one who works full time should have to live in poverty — and raise the federal minimum wage to $9 an hour.”
$9 per hour is still poverty.
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normalmom
Posted on March 18, 2013 at 1:48pm9 bucks an hour is below some states minimum. Don’t the liberals wish though.
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en2deep
Posted on March 18, 2013 at 1:50pmDoes all of her staffers make at least 22 dollars/hr?
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en2deep
Posted on March 18, 2013 at 1:57pmMinimum wage is not designated to be a salary to raise a family on. It’s a starting point for people who have very low skills and work experience.
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Zipit
Posted on March 18, 2013 at 1:57pmProbably DEEP, and we pay for it!
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DR.SIGMUND-P-FLOYD
Posted on March 18, 2013 at 2:04pmMr Monk
The Good Dr seems to have very slow postings.
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Walkabout
Posted on March 18, 2013 at 2:19pmWhatever dollar amount they raise the minimum wage to more skilled workers will have a multiple of that & minimum wage will forever be a non-liveable wage
“The labor contracts that we examined used a variety of methods to trigger the increases. The two most popular formulas were setting baseline union wages as a percentage above the state or federal minimum wage or mandating a flat wage premium above the minimum wage”
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424127887324048904578318541000422454.html
QED >>> Elizabeth Warren drools.
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wboehmer
Posted on March 18, 2013 at 2:22pmThe problem is – despite all the evidence to the contrary – that idiots like Elizabeth Warren think she & the rest of the federal government know ANYTHING about economics. Think I’m wrong . . . then cite a single example of a successful government program. By successful, I mean where taxpayers are getting their money’s worth.
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normalmom
Posted on March 18, 2013 at 2:23pmen2deep some people like women who are going back to work after their kids get older may end up with just minimum not because of lack of experience but time away. It can also happen to those who have lost work due to lay-offs and can’t find anything else. Try not to make people who get minimum feel like a kid straight out of high school or that they are stupid.
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RJJinGadsden
Posted on March 18, 2013 at 2:35pmEN2DEEP, Minimum wage is where I started while in school. That was the thing, it was a starting point. At a buck sixty and hour I had to really learn how to stretch my money if I wanted to buy anything for myself while actually saving some weekly. Minimum wage should never be seen as a lifetime goal.
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The-Monk
Posted on March 18, 2013 at 2:40pmHowdy Doc,
That’s not surprising after yesterday.
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en2deep
Posted on March 18, 2013 at 3:18pmnormalmom, I’m not trying to make anyone feel stupid .I just believe that if you,re a valuable commodity to your employer, they will recognize your value. I don’t know anybody who stays at the the rate of pay that they were hired for. We also do not need elected officials acting as union negotiaters. We need them to uphold and defend the constitution, you know, that silly little oath they took.
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Zipit
Posted on March 18, 2013 at 6:52pmMONK! Doc, is WANG!
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AnimalsAsLeaders
Posted on March 18, 2013 at 7:47pm@WBOEHMER
It feels wrong to defend government spending but I would say the one example is in science/technology investment. I would argue that, overall, the advances in technology & medical science have definitely paid out over time.
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AnimalsAsLeaders
Posted on March 18, 2013 at 7:48pm@DEEP
Preach it, brother!
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Fla.Patriot
Posted on March 18, 2013 at 11:17pmIf you say that everyone working “full time” must be paid $9 an hour, you will end up with nothing but “part time” employees. Case in point…Obamacare. These sociallist swine are doing everything they can to totally bankrupt this country. I’ve given up on fiscal responsability, I’d settle for some good old fashioned sanity, but I don’t see that happening. Some very dark days are headed our way.
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Oregon11
Posted on March 19, 2013 at 9:42amWealthiest nation on earth! Ha ha ha.
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high school drop out
Posted on March 18, 2013 at 1:43pmWarren is the SECOND biggest LIAR ever elected, And apparently one of the most ignorant!…How she beat Scott Brown is a total mystery unless you count voter fraud….She is on top of a very long list of morons who NEED TO GO!…You folks in Mass, cant be that stupid..Dump her in 2014
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flatfish
Posted on March 18, 2013 at 2:03pmsenators are elected for 6 year terms
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Winedude
Posted on March 18, 2013 at 2:12pmGood heavens are you stupid. She was elected in 2012 and will serve to 2018.
Conservatives, as stereotyped by Teabaggers, are America’s lost souls. A maladjusted generation who will waste themselves away pining for their fantasy white America that is long lost forevermore, unable to understand that they lost not because of how they said things but because of the things they said. When they lose, they can only lose because somebody cheated them. When they win, it was God’s grace or their manifest destiny. The sooner these cyclops die out, the easier the transition of the USA into the 21st century. Obama is the now and for the next four years. Get over it, or not. Really makes no big diff to me, we don’t need you anymore…
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ComingUnglued
Posted on March 18, 2013 at 2:25pmThank you Massachusetts
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RJJinGadsden
Posted on March 18, 2013 at 2:38pmCOMINGUNGLUED, I as well as others have posted this link here before. But, today it really explains Massachusetts voters.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BAIpI8IxgFs
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firearm
Posted on March 18, 2013 at 3:40pmWINEDUDE, Speaking of “lost souls” try not to wander to far off topic. Thank you.
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widowofanAirForcevet
Posted on March 18, 2013 at 10:13pmI was driving through MA right before the election. All around Amherst, North Hampton and the surrounding towns of Boston were there were Warren signs. CT, MA, and RI I bet are as liberal if not more liberal than CA. Too bad I am stuck in CT.
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SpankDaMonkey
Posted on March 18, 2013 at 1:43pm.
We need to Spay & Neuter the whole state of Massachusetts……
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grimjack3791
Posted on March 18, 2013 at 4:14pmAnd the surrounding Reservations too, apparently
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Quest4Freedom
Posted on March 19, 2013 at 12:19amAgree.
@ WINEDUDE… take another drink, you are still conscious. It is amazing how the left is so transparent!
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BehindTheMouth
Posted on March 18, 2013 at 1:43pmOnce again, politicians are the dumbest and most UN-educated people on the planet. Amazing how stupid people can get so far in life and end up in a position of power.
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Unbelievable
Posted on March 18, 2013 at 1:41pmWhy aren’t companies paying $22 p/h?!?!?!?!? Maybe because we don’t want to pay $20 for a simple fast food hamburger… DOH!!!
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Walkabout
Posted on March 18, 2013 at 2:24pmMinimum wage earners will always make a fraction of wage of union workers, skilled workers, etc.They will always be poor. It CANNOT be otherwise. Temporarily a politician can buck the system but nature will reassert itself. The only cure is to educate yourself to do needful work sucha s an electrician, plumber, accountant, engineer, etc.
“The two most popular formulas were setting baseline union wages as a percentage above the state or federal minimum wage or mandating a flat wage premium above the minimum wage.”
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424127887324048904578318541000422454.html
But progs never learn.
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ArmedAndReallyPissed
Posted on March 18, 2013 at 1:41pmElizabeth Warren Wonders: Why Aren’t Employers Paying $22-an-Hour Minimum Wage Rates?
Most peoples Stools have more intelligence than this.
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DIR
Posted on March 18, 2013 at 3:11pm@ARMEDANDREALLPISSED
Not to be contrary, but if a stool (as in a load) is smarter than Liz, and she qualifies as a steaming stool, why is she so much dumber than one? Don’t get me wrong, I believe you, but just having a problem in comprehending the logic, even though this article has definitely proven your point. Her eyes are open, but her lights are out and no one seems to be there.
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darkeningskies
Posted on March 18, 2013 at 1:40pmWOW is this for real or a complete joke??????
Sorry I forgot, we are talking about liberals……..never mind
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termyt
Posted on March 18, 2013 at 1:39pmWhat does that accomplish, Senator?
Do you think McDonalds would still have a dollar menu if they paid their employees teice as much? It would be a $2 menu, or even a $3 menu. What would have been accomplished besides millions of people who would now be making minimum wage because we all make less than $22/hour?
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zorro
Posted on March 18, 2013 at 1:45pmI always thought that when people said math was hard for liberals, it was a joke. But how about that. They really are bad at math. Really, really bad at math.
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Sargeking
Posted on March 18, 2013 at 1:39pmThat’s brilliant, Little Miss Cherokee. Force the minimum wage up to the point that most of the workers making something now end up with nothing later because they will be laid-off. Elections have consequences. Don’t we know it!
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jackact
Posted on March 18, 2013 at 1:39pmPleeeezzz…..back to the reservation for you
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Berbel73
Posted on March 18, 2013 at 1:39pmWhat’s wrong with the people of Massachusetts? I’m being serious here. I simply cannot grasp how in the world this woman was elected to the senate.
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widowofanAirForcevet
Posted on March 18, 2013 at 10:22pmYou have never been to MA I see. Crazy socialists everywhere.
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CLEttinger
Posted on March 18, 2013 at 1:38pmWhy not $22 per hour, hmmm lets make is $1,000 per hour! Everyone will be rich, atleast acording to the lib-tards. The rest can go on welfare and they can tax the few working $993.50 per hour.
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oicu814me2
Posted on March 18, 2013 at 2:25pmSpot on.. If 22.00 is good then 22,000.00 must be even better.. The only way hourly wage can reflect reality is supply and demand. If I had to raise the wages I pay my workers the I will have to raise my prices and then your new raise will not by what it had bought the day before.
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TIME_2_END_THE_PAUL_CAMPAIGN_IN_12
Posted on March 18, 2013 at 1:37pmWorkers today spend more time on their cell phones texting than they do working. Workers today (mostly young workers) feel entitled to a higher pay check with minimum effort.
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RJJinGadsden
Posted on March 18, 2013 at 2:40pmTIME, that has driven me crazy more times than not.
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circleDwagons
Posted on March 18, 2013 at 5:16pmTime2. I’m shocked you are actually right on something. Stupid phones worse than smoking
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TIME_2_END_THE_PAUL_CAMPAIGN_IN_12
Posted on March 18, 2013 at 5:39pmRJJ. Aye.
CIRCLEDRADIOFLYERS. I’m right about an awful lot more, but you can’t seem to admit it… now can you??
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normalmom
Posted on March 18, 2013 at 1:36pmIn Washington state we passed a bill increasing minimum wage every year. It was a noble thought and a bad idea. Every time the minimum goes up so does the cost of living causing no changes to standard of living. It also has hurt small businesses because they pay more out and can’t guarantee more coming in.
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vendingdude
Posted on March 18, 2013 at 10:25pmThis is the silliest clip I have ever seen. Minimum wage was set up to be just that; a minimum wage for entry level positions. I presume it was calculated at the beginning off of a relationship between a national average cost of living scale, (Consumer Price Index, something like that) an average work week and factoring in also that it was NOT designed to sustain a family of 4.2 with a dog and a car. I would also presume that it should periodically increase or decrease to keep pace with inflation and deflation. With that said, why is anyone making the argument that the government should adjust the rate based on a business’s, or the nation’s PRODUCTIVITY? That is not part of the equation at all. That is up to the free market; it is called expanding your business, extending your hours and GIVING RAISES TO YOUR EMPLOYEES.
If two widget stores are open next to each other, and the productivity of one doubles (from good hiring, incentives, bonus plan, soothing music, who cares) and the manager of said factory elects to pay his workers more to retain them, are you telling me that the other widget maker must increase his payroll because overall widget production has gone up?? That’s CRAZY!!
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smokeysmoke
Posted on March 18, 2013 at 1:36pmbecuase the added costs of labor would be included in the final product that the consumer has to pay… so by increasing the minimum wage, you say your helping the working…. but in reality
you are causing inflation… by increasing the costs of doing buisness, and increasing the cost of basic living goods…. peoples standard of living across the board will decrease… and along with it…
more companies are going to take producing work across the pacific to india and china… and companies are only going to sell to americans, beucase producing here you have to deal with too many idiotic politicions and rules..
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sckimbershot
Posted on March 18, 2013 at 1:35pmgod, wish some of these politicians would have taken an economics course. heck, i used to have my own business. everyone else got paid before i ever did. at the end of the day, the “pot of gold” was pretty lean. i would love for this dumb pos to trade places with someone in business for just 1 freakin week.
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The_Jerk
Posted on March 18, 2013 at 1:39pmSenator Elizabeth Warren said that it used to work when her tribe was free to roam the wild west, before the white man placed her people on the reservation.
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termyt
Posted on March 18, 2013 at 3:13pmThat made me smile, Jerk.
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TH30PH1LUS
Posted on March 18, 2013 at 1:34pmElizabeth,
how many people do you think your aunt could have employed at her restaurant if she were required to pay $22 min wage? She may have had to fire you, her precious little American Indian niece.
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Brentley
Posted on March 18, 2013 at 1:33pmYou ELIZABETH are OUT OF YOUR MIND….why is minimum wage not 22 bucks an hour. How about larger unemployment for starters…then of course there is the increase in costs of services and increase in retail. You will put even more people out of work. Then you can tax the rest of us even further and we will be LIKE CYPRUS ….OK that sounds like a GREAT IDEA…NOT…you need to resign!
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Walkabout
Posted on March 18, 2013 at 2:46pmEliezabeth is pout of hewr mind. She criticizes the housing market, yet she was a house flipper.
Harsh Foreclosure Critic Elizabeth Warren Reportedly … – The Blaze
http://www.theblaze.com/…/harsh-foreclosure-critic-elizabeth-warren-repor...
http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2012/06/02/harsh-foreclosure-critic-elizabeth-warren-reportedly-made-a-fortune-flipping-foreclosed-homes/
Jun 2, 2012 – Boston Herald: Elizabeth Warren Made a Fortune Flipping Foreclosed … Buying a house at 200 NW 16th St. for $30,000 in August 1993, then …
Hypocritical Elizabeth Warren Turned Profit Flipping Foreclosed …
http://www.breitbart.com/Big…/Elizabeth-Warren-Flip-That-Hous... by John Sexton
Jun 2, 2012 – When she’s not looking out for the little guy being taken advantage of by predatory lenders, Elizabeth Warren is making high-interest, short-term …
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/…/records-prof-profited-by-buying-selling...
Jun 2, 2012 – Elizabeth Warren, who has railed against predatory banks and heartless … The Globe tries to draw a connection between flipping houses and …
Elizabeth Warren accused of making a fortune from flipping …
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/…/Elizabeth-Warren-accused-making-fortune-f...
Jun 2, 2012 – Elizabeth Warren accused of making a fortune from flipping … Elizabeth Warren bought a foreclosed house for $61,000 in June 1993 and sold it …
Harsh Foreclosure Critic Elizabeth Warren … – Yahoo! News
news.yahoo.com/harsh-foreclosure-critic
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Frederick_Douglass_Republican
Posted on March 20, 2013 at 8:38amShe is by no means out of her mind. This evil wretch knows exactly what she’s doing. Exactly.
Since she subscribes to totally destructive communism she should move to Cuba. Short trip to he** b****
Washington DC is so full of enemies of this country I see no way of the country getting through this intact. Funny thing is wretches like that will, apparently unbeknownst to them, not fare well when it all collapses.
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CWPrequired
Posted on March 18, 2013 at 1:33pmThe only reason you are wondering is because you are an idiot.
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RightUnite
Posted on March 18, 2013 at 1:32pmIs this stupid woman smoking crack?? WTH is wrong with these idiots???
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Glenn_S
Posted on March 18, 2013 at 1:39pmYes, but since she smokes it in a peace pipe, she gets a pass.
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RightUnite
Posted on March 18, 2013 at 1:52pmOh yeah… I forgot about that native connection… Hehehehehe! Dayum!
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DIR
Posted on March 18, 2013 at 8:40pmShe’s high on her own methane, which she produces, then enjoys, in her own smokehouse (bathroom*) also the place where she cures various kinds of meat, game and foul (foul as in birds not stink, though I’m sure her smokehouse is foul).
*Because of her native past she probably is more comfortable in an old authentic out houses (legendary smoke houses), and the more up to date model called andy gumps (no relation to Forrest Gump).
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