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Is the UN Planning to Clamp Down on Gun Sales?

Mar. 18, 2013 11:15pm Mytheos Holt

With all the efforts by politicians within the United States to limit gun rights, one would think the National Rifle Association (NRA) would have its hands full. But as it happens, there may be another threat coming from the international community that has sparked similar levels of opposition from the NRA. That alleged threat is a United Nations (U.N.) treaty designed to clamp down on unsavory elements within the global arms trade.

Fox News reports:

The draft treaty under consideration does not control the domestic use of weapons in any country, but it would prohibit states that ratify the treaty from transferring conventional weapons if they would violate arms embargoes or if they would promote acts of genocide, crimes against humanity or war crimes.

In considering whether to authorize the export of arms, the draft says a country must evaluate whether the weapon would be used to violate international human rights or humanitarian laws or be used by terrorists, organized crime or for corrupt practices.

Many countries, including the United States, control arms exports, but there has never been an international treaty regulating the estimated $60 billion global arms trade. For more than a decade, activists and some governments have been pushing for international rules to try to keep illicit weapons out of the hands of terrorists, insurgent fighters and organized crime.[...]

The National Rifle Association has portrayed the treaty as a threat to gun ownership rights enshrined in the U.S. Constitution. The politically controversial issue of gun regulations has re-emerged since a gunman opened fire on Dec. 14 at an elementary school in Newtown, Conn., killing 20 children and six educators.

The NRA’s opposition is grounded in a fear that the treaty’s provisions banning export and trade of certain weapons (“civilian firearms” is the phrase used) could be interpreted over-expansively and thus infringe on the ability of Americans to get more guns. However, UN experts are skeptical. The UK Guardian explains their skepticism:

Human rights campaigners said that the resurgence of the NRA‘s campaign was designed to “stir up anti-UN panic” ahead of the UN conference on the Arms Trade Treaty, which opens on Monday in New York. The Obama administration indicated in a statement on Friday that it would sign the pact.

For years, the NRA has painted the UN as a bogeyman figure, claiming in its literature and fundraising drives that there is an international conspiracy to “grab your guns”. Last July, when negotiations on the Arms Trade Treaty broke down – in part because of US resistance to global regulations on gun sales – the gun lobby group claimed victory for “killing the UN ATT”.[...]

According to the Small Arms Survey, roughly 650m of the 875m weapons in the world are in the hands of civilians. That, arms control advocates say, is why any arms trade treaty must regulate both military and civilian weapons.

Scott Stedjan, of Oxfam America described the NRA’s opposition to the treaty as “irrelevant”. “They know that arms treaty is not going to impact domestic gun control” he said. “The issue they are most concerned about lies outside the treaty.”

Nevertheless, the NRA’s opposition is grounded on more than simple fears that the UN’s treaty will have objectionable policy consequences. Their objection is that no UN treaty should be allowed to exert authority over Americans’ constitutional rights, however loosely. NRA CEO Wayne LaPierre has been especially forceful on this topic.

“Neither the United Nations, nor any other foreign influence, has the authority to meddle with the freedoms guaranteed by our Bill of Rights,” LaPierre said in an address to the UN’s Arms Trade Treaty Conference last July.

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sinner-saint
Posted on March 19, 2013 at 1:56am
The UN has no power or control over me. Screw the bastards.

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- nzkiwi
  Posted on March 19, 2013 at 5:20am
  Not yet, Sinner, but it is trying, and like rust, it never sleeps.
  
  This current emphasis on guns is incidental. They are trying to made UN law superior to US law and the laws of other nations. In many cases, including in my own country, they have had partial success.
  
  The danger is that these people are effectively unelected and are supported by a majority of nations which are far more dictatorial than ours. No small percentage are ruled by thieves, murderers, and various stripes of tyrant. The prize, their Holy Grail, is One World Government, and they are fanatical in their pursuit of that objective.
  
  I agree with most commenters that the UN has no place in our national affairs – and it was never intended that it should.
  
  The west should, at the very least, significantly curtail its financial support of this insidious organisation, and strip it of the power that it has illegitimally acquired over the decades.
  
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- OlefromMN
  Posted on March 19, 2013 at 6:19am
  “The Obama administration indicated in a statement on Friday that it would sign the pact.”
  
  Art. II Sec. 2 :”He shall have Power, by and with the Advice and Consent of the Senate, to make Treaties, provided two thirds of the Senators present concur;”
  
  Let’s see if he pays any attention to this sticky detail. Then let’s see who would actually allow a non-sovereignty to hold any authority over us.
  
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- johnpaulkuchtajr
  Posted on March 19, 2013 at 6:29am
  I think that Beck made a great link between the banking fiasco in Cyprus and the world-wide push to seize guns from law-abiding citizens here. Beck’s long-standing advice to have a couple of weeks of cash sounded prescient too.
  
  If you’ll notice, all the protestors in Cyprus are pointing their naked fingers in the air. None of them seem to have friends like Mr. Smith, Mr. Wesson or Herr Rueger to comfort them in times of grand theft from their accounts.
  
  I’m one gun owner who is ready to declare:
  
  “Throw down, Obama and the UN, show me what you got!”
  
  The time for debating the merits of gun control has come and gone. I believe that my right to bear arms is guaranteed by the Second Amendment. Period. No amount of tears for slain victims of crazed gunmen will change that attitude. Go peddle that tripe elsewhere. There will always be murderers in out midst, whether they use their hands, clubs, knives or flamethrowers to do their deeds. They will prey on innocents because innocents can’t shoot back.
  
  So, bring it on, Obama, and bring that pencil-necked Holder with you.
  
  “Remember Benghazi and ALL the Traitors!”
  
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- naughtycal
  Posted on March 19, 2013 at 7:58am
  NZ
  Any political offical that would sell our soveriegnty to the UN is NOT AMERICAN and not only violating the oath to the Constitution but also a traitor and an enemy of the state.
  
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- FEDUP_DEVILDOG
  Posted on March 19, 2013 at 8:13am
  @Sinner
  Amen Brother, but this administration has left the door open for them a couple of times now. here in Texas, our AG got involved when it was reported that a contingency would be “observing” our elections. I’m glad that the NRA is on point. At least I can say that the money I send them is going to good use.
  
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- WarMunger_Al
  Posted on March 19, 2013 at 9:31am
  the federal and sate governments don’t have the authority to meddle in the 2nd amendment rights of citizens either, but they have, they do, and they are. Time to put the traitors to grass.
  
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- kenboo1
  Posted on March 19, 2013 at 9:36am
  If we take all the money out of the banks, the Fed will just print more to replace it adding to the inflationary pressures already being applied. Banks wont be stressed… Only when money is no longer accepted will the fed be powerless…
  
  If we ever needed a strong senate unchained from the parties it is now… http://www.repeal17.net.
  
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- kenboo1
  Posted on March 19, 2013 at 10:20am
  ooops what was I thinking… Wrong post…
  
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- jungle J
  Posted on March 19, 2013 at 11:20am
  why do you say such things?
  
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- OBAMANATIONOFDESOLATION
  Posted on March 19, 2013 at 6:18pm
  A treaty trumps the constitution. It is a covenant, like a marriage, where each gives up rights. So if the Senate passes a treaty restricting or banning guns, it becomes the law of the land.
- sacwoodpusher
  Posted on March 25, 2013 at 11:00pm
  Time to throw the UN out of the US, and discontinue US membership.
  
  Nuke’em all.
  
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Chancellor
Posted on March 19, 2013 at 1:53am
Let the Blue helmets come……Free weapons for all! They are trained when they get into a rough area

to drop they’re weapons and run. Did it in Isreal, Somali, Grenada and what use to be the Chech republic.
If they are on the street corner walk up and disarm them before letting them go. Heck I still have a FNL from a French soldier that fled the Goland Heights in 77. Actually it is within arms reach of me at my desk.
Just make sure you take they’re ammo also.

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- johnpaulkuchtajr
  Posted on March 19, 2013 at 6:34am
  Hey Chancellor,
  
  I like the way you think.
  
  Joined Oathkeepers yet?
  
  “Remember Benghazi and ALL the Traitors!”
  
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- TIME_THE_AVENGER
  Posted on March 19, 2013 at 7:14am
  That’s alright in my book. There won’t be a need to join the service to kill dangerous foreigners. Saves on travel time and gas money too…
  
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- termyt
  Posted on March 19, 2013 at 7:49am
  French rifles are usually in very good condition. Never fired, only dropped once.
  
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- Outlaw_Josey_Wales
  Posted on March 19, 2013 at 8:21am
  @TERMYT
  There are some nice french rifles that have never been fired and dropped three times.
  Dunkirk, France 1939
  Dien Bien Phu, Vietnam 1950
  Goland Heights 1977
  
  I think the ‘White Flag’ should be the french national flag.
  
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- FEDUP_DEVILDOG
  Posted on March 19, 2013 at 9:11am
  @CHANCELLOR&JOHNPAUL
  Agreed 100% about the UN Forces. They’re definitely Lame. Then there’s the possibliity of a TSA “JUNK JIGGLER” in an MRAP rolling down your block. Still no real threat. So it leaves one to ponder. Who will be tasked with disarming us? I think were all anticipating the frontal assault fellas. Our flanks are wide open. I believe it’s much more subtle. I truly believe it wont be a defineable call to action. I think the frog in the pot scenario applies here. I think we’re already in the pot, and it’s up to us to pay close attention to the temp. I guess it comes down to what your individual line in the sand is. As for Oathkeepers, along with being a Veteran, I’m also a currently serving LEO. As much as i like what this organization has to say, i’m real hesitant to join. Something just doesnt smell right. I wish someone could try to convince me otherwise.
  
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- Sheepdog69
  Posted on March 19, 2013 at 2:02pm
  Damn right! Anyone wearing a blue helmet in my country is free game. Too bad for them that they made a wrong choice to wear it. UN troops on my soil is a trigger point for me and mine.
  
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cosmic dogma
Posted on March 19, 2013 at 1:49am
I am a member of the NRA. I recommend all of my friends please join. It costs little, skip your dinner out, eat a salami sandwich and use the savings to pay for a membership. NRA is one of our best allies. We need to support them. Thanks friends, for caring about our country.

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Chancellor
Posted on March 19, 2013 at 1:40am
Feel sorry for the Companies that make the French FNL, German Mauser and others, Isreali ouzie,
Russian AKs.

And to think everyone of those companies Mostly the Russians do more out of country business than in country. In the USA at least you can make your own guns with just a few machines. Nothing need go out of country.

Oh by the way UN is a failed policy and I do hope to see blue helmets trying to enforce law in the US. It will be soooo easy to get a gun then. Just take they’res no one’s going to miss a dead Bluehelmet!

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- jyoung1066
  Posted on March 19, 2013 at 8:10am
  like the russians are going to obey this anyway, this is a law just to keep american companies down and a test case to see if international law can supercede U.S. law, like everything else they do they will eventually get around to destroying our constitution from the outside as well as the inside, this is to see if we will fight them on it.
  
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PrfctlyFrank
Posted on March 19, 2013 at 1:33am
Very soon there will be no need for new gun control legislation.. The Fed will simply buy up all ammo, and new guns, and stockpile them, forcing prices up due to shortages they create, and then figure out a way to tax firearms into oblivion. That or they’ll come up with an insurance scam of some kind making it impossible to afford a gun. There’s no end to the subterfuge these idiots in government, red or blue, elephant or ass, will practice to gain and keep their “power.”

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- Chancellor
  Posted on March 19, 2013 at 1:44am
  In NYS they are trying to pass a bill that will make everyone who was Stupid enough to register they’re guns to have a 1Million dollar insurance policy on them.
  
  To those I told to not register your guns and you called me a worry wart…….How much are your monthly premiums???
  
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- redfish52
  Posted on March 19, 2013 at 7:58am
  Chancellor…If you purchased your gun from a dealer legally you had no choice but to register it. It would be great if you didn’t have to but unless Joe next door sells you his shotgun in a cash deal you have no choice. All this being said so what if they send you a tax bill or a letter requiring a certificate of insurance. There are going to be million’s of lost gun in the USA very soon and there’s not a d*** thing the Fed’s can do about it.
  
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SilentReader
Posted on March 19, 2013 at 1:31am
Are you kidding with that question? Of course they are!

The UN is the gun mafia. It’s only when we the people have the guns that they are worried about it. That might just put them in jeopardy! As out of control as they all are!

Dismantling the UN and the EU and NATO enforcer, and all the other global entities that these globalist Controllers hide behind is necessary to stop them implementing their global tyranny over all of us.

So, quit asking the obvious. They want to disarm us law-abiding people so that they can have complete control. All power corrupts. And no one is more corrupt than the UN thugs.

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SteelJewel
Posted on March 19, 2013 at 1:00am
the UN has NO control over me, I do not recognize them as anyone with authority over me. I have the 2nd amendment, period. I will keep my guns, ammo and anything I have collected.

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dsmith43
Posted on March 19, 2013 at 12:59am
Any member of our government involved in signing or agreeing with this treaty should go to jail for treason because we are a sovereign country bound by our Constitution and anything coming between the people and their rights given by the founders and God is criminal in itself. Get the UN the hell out of our country and our pockets.

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- WarMunger_Al
  Posted on March 19, 2013 at 9:40am
  Penalty for treason is death, not jail.
  
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mlip
Posted on March 19, 2013 at 12:31am
This morning, after being a year to year member of the NRA for many years, became a lifetime member.

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scarydave
Posted on March 19, 2013 at 12:17am
The UN should NEVER be able to tell any American citizen what they can or cannot do. If it were up to me the UN building in NYC would be bulldozed into the East river and then pass a law forbidding the UN on American soil. They need to stay out of our business!

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high school drop out
Posted on March 19, 2013 at 12:15am
Cap and trade and gun control and a veritable mixed bag of other America hating policies Does anyone need more reasons to kick the U.N. out of this country

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- marine249
  Posted on March 19, 2013 at 1:27am
  along with obummer
  
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DEFCON4
Posted on March 19, 2013 at 12:11am
Treaties do not override the Constitution, and cannot, in any fashion, ammend it.
The Supreme court stated that the treaty-making power does not authorize
what the Constitution forbids.

Reid v. Covert -Oct1956
Geofroy v. Riggs -Feb.1890

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- TRILO
  Posted on March 19, 2013 at 1:36am
  Well just like nanny Bloomburg, the UN will not be banning guns, the treaty will just enable lawmakers to make regulations. If gun imports are halted to this country it is not a violation of the Constitution, it just reduces your ability to exercise your 2nd Amendment rights.
  
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justangry
Posted on March 19, 2013 at 12:03am
I never swore allegiance the U.N. They have the right to dictate what I do why?

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EQUALIZER
Posted on March 19, 2013 at 12:02am
U.N. Small Arms Treaty compliance=Sandy Hook..Wake Up.

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firearm
Posted on March 19, 2013 at 12:02am
“activists and some governments have been pushing for international rules to try to keep illicit weapons out of the hands of terrorists, insurgent fighters and organized crime”

Insurgent fighters are people who are fighting against the government of their own country.

That is why the 2nd amendment was created. To protect citizens from a government that wants to enslave you.

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Texaslockstar
Posted on March 18, 2013 at 11:59pm
The UN needs to leave American soil. They have no right to tell us how to live , think or act. The UN is nothing more than a terrorest group wanting to distroy all free countries.

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- TotallyNotATroll
  Posted on March 19, 2013 at 12:04am
  Well, I mean if the brits tell us it will all be all right then everything will be cool right, not like we’ve ever disagreed with them.
  
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RationalMan
Posted on March 18, 2013 at 11:57pm
F.U., U.N!!!!!!

Get the he** out of my country!!!!

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Anonymous T. Irrelevant
Posted on March 18, 2013 at 11:52pm
“In considering whether to authorize the export of arms, the draft says a country must evaluate whether the weapon would be used to violate international human rights or humanitarian laws or be used by terrorists, organized crime or for corrupt practices.”
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In that case, shouldn’t they be going after Zero, himself? For violating Mr. ghadafi’s human rights, or the rights of the people killed at Benghazi, or the rights of he people killed in the Arab Spring?
Aww, who am I kidding? They would never go after a fellow African muslim.

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usna88
Posted on March 18, 2013 at 11:47pm
For me, this is not about the legal wording. This about a complete lack of trust in my government. For 50 years they have borrowed against the future. For years they have degraded the morals of society. And now they say, “Trust me.”
“Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice, shame on ME!” — Scottish saying(?)

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- Xanderson
  Posted on March 19, 2013 at 1:16am
  You said this so much more articulately than George W. Bush–God bless him! (He thought the saying originated in Tennessee or Texas…who knows?)
  
  http://m.youtube.com/#/watch?v=8Ux3DKxxFoM&desktop_uri=%2Fwatch%3Fv%3D8Ux3DKxxFoM
  
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EQUALIZER
Posted on March 18, 2013 at 11:44pm
Funny how Chuck Schumer, and Bloomberg happen to be good friends with Maurice Strong and the U.N.. The trail is very long……..

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media-bias-steals-elections
Posted on March 18, 2013 at 11:44pm
The UN is a broken organization where diplomats come to NYC to get drunk and waste other people’s money? You are in far greater danger from peaceful nuclear generation projects because they have no idea what to do with the waste, yet they can’t prioritize their time to take care of this clear, and what should be a fairly easy agenda for nations to gather around?

Why are we surprised with Iraqi aid scandals, etc? Anyone that dares say anything is accused of being a lobbyist and fined $750,000 like Donald Trump? What in the world is that about? Or they are added to a list maintained by Department of Homeland Security? What is the problem in NYC and New York State, they think they are a new world order that is above the Bill of Rights?

So people are forced to maintain a relationship where they can’t question the decision of politicians, but they can ask open questions about policy without supporting any viewpoint, and with careful language there is free speech in the political process for New York State? That’s what Rush Limbaugh does, he’s not political, he asks open ended questions about policy, and the liberals can not shut him up, which is why they make fun of him?

Why isn’t the State Department telling China, there is no legitimate use for nuclear technology in North Korea? There is no where to put the waste generated, help us out China?

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- Clownshoes
  Posted on March 19, 2013 at 9:07am
  Like most of your posts I am sure there is a nugget of intelligent discourse in there some where. Too bad I am usually left wondering what you have said because of HOW you construct your post. I do not expect perfection, but help a brother out…. This website should help:
  
  http://www.grammarbook.com/english_rules.asp
  
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Snowleopard {gallery of cat folks}
Posted on March 18, 2013 at 11:40pm
Once again the UN needs to be told to get out of the USA, stay out or be dumped into the ocean.

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john vincent
Posted on March 18, 2013 at 11:30pm
“Neither the United Nations, nor any other foreign influence, has the authority to meddle with the freedoms guaranteed by our Bill of Rights,” LaPierre said in an address to the UN’s Arms Trade Treaty Conference last July.

Amen- again I say amen-
(I would only add: where was the UN when the Bill of Rights was drafted?) It is exactly because of a UN that the ‘Rights’ have their strength….and necessity-

begone thy foreign imposters!

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- Afungi
  Posted on March 19, 2013 at 12:34am
  The Presedent sign 2/3 vote from the senate ratify treaties. Treaties and the constitution supersede state law. Effectively state nullification has never worked and the civil war proved it. That is why the senatitory elections are so important.
  
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EQUALIZER
Posted on March 18, 2013 at 11:26pm
FYI, Sandy Hook was sponsored by the U…N., and Maurice Strong. Look it up, its a fact.

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termyt
Posted on March 18, 2013 at 11:25pm
The US already controls export of firearms. This treaty changes very little, if anything about current American law. The only threats it would pose would be 1) the UN could assume control of the export process currently controlled by the US government and 2) if politicians could use the treaty as leverage for their gun control agenda.

The treaty itself would have neither authority to supersede the Constitution nor any effect on gun sales within the United States.

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- subic
  Posted on March 18, 2013 at 11:30pm
  Correct TERMYT, no bullsh#t UN treaty supercedes our Constitution.
  
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- SUNTZU
  Posted on March 18, 2013 at 11:57pm
  The countries in the E.U. might tell you different
  In the countries where the people voted not to join
  Their Progressive leaders got together wrote a treaty
  they all signed it.
  and wham bam thank you mam
  the E.U. was formed.
  
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