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Sympathizing With Rapists? See What CNN Said About the Steubenville Rapists That Has It Taking Major Heat

Mar. 18, 2013 8:46am

News that two high school football players from Steubenville, Ohio, were found guilty of raping a 16-year-old girl quickly spread on Sunday, with the troubling case coming to a close — at least for now. And while many reacting, there are a few capturing the most attention — the ones that appeared on CNN.

Students Trent Mays and Ma’Lik Richmond were sentenced to at least one year in juvenile jail (the former could be detained until age 24 and the latter until 21). The state will soon be launching a grand jury to explore the possibility of additional charges. But a report by CNN’s Poppy Harlow, and subsequent discussion featuring anchor Candy Crowley, in the wake of the decision has quickly gone viral, with numerous outlets lambasting the news network for what appeared to be a sympathetic discussion about the teenage offenders.

Sympathizing With Rapists? See What CNN Said About the Steubenville Rapists That Has It Taking Major Heat

Ma’lik Richmond, 16, left, and co-defendant Trent Mays, 17, right, walks around in the court room during a break on the fourth day of the juvenile trial for he and co-defendant on rape charges in juvenile court on Saturday, March 16, 2013 in Steubenville, Ohio. Credit: AP

The Atlantic’s Adam Clark Estes notes some of the curious statements that were made on CNN about Mays and Richmond in the wake of the guilty verdict. Here’s how the outlet describes the news report:

Candy Crowley probably didn’t mean to steal the spotlight on Sunday afternoon, when she reported on the breaking news from the Steubenville courtroom where Trent Mays and Ma’lik Richmond had just been found guilty. After the verdict came in, the CNN anchor turned to correspondent Poppy Harlow, who expressed some strange mixture of emotions. “Incredibly difficult, even for an outsider like me, to watch what happened as these two young men that had such promising futures, star football players, very good students, literally watched as they believed their lives fell apart,” said Harlow. Crowley turned to legal expert Paul Callan, who sounded almost apologetic when explaining how the rape conviction will mean that the Steubenville rapists will now be registered sex offenders and how that “will haunt them for the rest of their lives.” None of these things said were untrue. But the tone was certainly a little off.

Clark continued, noting that while CNN wasn’t rooting for the young men, those involved in the discussion took on an odd tone and seemed to show some sympathy for the perpetrators. Gawker, too, pointed out the coverage, noting that the television outlet chose to focus on the lives of the teen offenders being destroyed rather than the impact of the victim (her name has not been released).

“One way to report on the outcome of a rape trial is to discuss the legal ramifications of the decision or the effect the proceedings may have on the life of the victim,” Gawker’s Mallory Ortberg wrote. “Another angle reporters can take is to publicly worry about the ‘promising future’ of the convicted rapists, now less promising as a direct result of their choice to rape someone.”

Sympathizing With Rapists? See What CNN Said About the Steubenville Rapists That Has It Taking Major Heat

From left, defendant Trent Mays, 17, his defense attorney Adam Nemann, and co-defendant ,16-year-old Ma’lik Richmond get up to leave their trial on rape charges more than 13 hours after the start of their third day in juvenile court on Friday, March 15, 2013 in Steubenville, Ohio. Credit: AP

The news report was mainly criticized for doing the latter and for building out the lives of Mays and Richmond, while purportedly focusing too intently on the ramifications the verdict would have on their football and academic careers. Ortberg made it clear that there should be no such discussion among professional journalists when focusing upon rape trials.

The teens, critics argued, were responsible for their actions and, thus, there should be no surprise — or over-dramatized media reports — showing overt or even slight sympathy for them.

Here’s how Ortberg summarized her views on the matter:

It’s perfectly understandable, when reporting on a rape trial, to discuss the length and severity of the sentence; it is less understandable to discuss the end of two convicted rapists’ future athletic and academic careers as if it were somehow divorced from the laws of cause and effect. Their dreams and hopes were not crushed by an impersonal, inexorable legal system; Mays and Richmond raped a girl and have been sentenced accordingly. Had they not raped her, they would not be spending at least one year each in a juvenile detention facility.

It is unlikely that Candy Crowley and Poppy Harlow are committed rape apologists; more likely they simply wanted a showy, emotional angle at the close of a messy and sensationalized trial. Since the identity of the victim is protected, and the rapists obliged the camera crews by memorably breaking down and crying in court, they found an angle to match: extremely gifted young men were brought tragically low by… mumblemumblesomething.

That isn’t how rape trials ought to be discussed by professional journalists

Watch the CNN report in question, below:

Adding to the outrage is that the satire outlet “The Onion” — known for mocking the absurd — once found the idea of sympathizing with rapists so ridiculous it even produced a segment about it.

Writer and comedian Krister Johnson posted an old YouTube video from Comedy Central’s “SportsDome,” an Onion show he once worked on. The segment he posted was a mock story about a basketball player who “overcame” committing a rape.

Taking aim at the CNN news report about the Steubenville rape, Johnson wrote the following description for the video — a clip that some commentators have said predicts the aforementioned CNN report:

I was a staff writer on the Onion’s show “SportsDome” which aired on Comedy Central in 2011. This is one of the stories we did–full credit to David Iscoe (twitter.com/realhumanbeing) for the idea and script. It could have been produced by the CNN team covering the Steubenville rape verdict.

Watch the Onion clip from “SportsDome,” below:

Conversation about the contentious CNN report has made its way over to Reddit, where reaction generally ranged from dismay to intense frustration.

“A year in juvenile detention for rape. That’s not justice,” user askarNC wrote about the trial itself. And another who goes by the name Jennerality covered the CNN report, writing, “The worst part was when the guy at the end called the result of the whole ordeal a ‘tragedy.’ Er, so it wasn’t tragic for the girl who actually got raped, but apparently it’s tragic that the boys got what they deserved?”

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  • ranjannie
    Posted on March 18, 2013 at 10:05am

    The victim will never be able to trust again. She will have difficulty in her marriage. Hopefully she can get some Christ-centered couseling. That is the only hope for her to have a normal life. The boys will have their football careers. It’s sad, but I don’t think they will suffer. They’re not responsible!

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    • CaliDefender
      Posted on March 19, 2013 at 2:37pm

      The girl who got ‘raped’ – I won’t call her a victim, was definitely a contributor to her situation. I went to a strict wacko fundamentalist xian school and there were STILL several groups of girls who chased sailors, sport stars, entertainment figures. Alcohol and sex played prominently. (I’m sure it was even worse at public and secular schools). The plan was to get into a venue and get laid by the target, with much bragging bacck at school later on. If caught or found out, the claim was always going to be “I was drunk and he took advantage of me’. She didn’t know or remember until she saw the videos. . . ha,ha,ha,ha,ha! Tell me another one. Yes, damn it. Those feeble minded boys were every bit as much ‘victims’.

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    • JosephHarris
      Posted on March 19, 2013 at 8:17pm

      Well, a party girl gets trashed at party, gets fingered and doesn’t remember… wow that is probably pretty rare. “digitally penetrated” means… finger…(or a toe but most likely finger) I guess a couple of years will teach these guys a lesson… If they waited until they were star athletes they could forcibly rape and get probation.

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  • tozzo
    Posted on March 18, 2013 at 9:58am

    Boooo–Hoooo good for you!

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  • justiceday
    Posted on March 18, 2013 at 9:44am

    How can anyone who heard any of the evidence think these guys deserve pity? Trent especially was the one that humiliated that girl and bragged about it and would have done more if she would have not been such a “dead” body to him. That girl only got support from a few locals and Anonymous. That town is more worried about football and it looks like there will be more victims coming out of this and 16 kids who wouldn’t talk at all. We probably didn’t hear the worst of it yet.
    That girls life is ruined because of their actions.
    But that is the mentality in Ohio women are lesser, just like how they treat them in the military.
    http://www.theusmarinesrape.com/FaceBook.html

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    • Clownshoes
      Posted on March 18, 2013 at 10:15am

      Nice way to generalize about ALL of Ohio, you jacka$$. You completely made your entire point null and void when you slandered an entire state. I hope you are a liberal lefty puke because we don’t need idiots like you trying to defend our ideals to other people when all you are going to do is turn people off by your stupidity and at the same time make the rest of us look bad.

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    • Attention2Detail
      Posted on March 18, 2013 at 10:22am

      You are an idiot. I was a Military Policeman and in 5 years there was one rape case. That doesn’t seem to be any more prevelant than in society at large. The victim whose name was never published was treated with respect and care. The rapist was scorned and court martialed. There were no stupid news people talking about the affect it would have on his future. Also, I would not paint the whole state of Ohio with that brush because of one town or CNN. You owe all military personel past and present an apology.

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    • retribution11
      Posted on March 18, 2013 at 2:20pm

      Why am I not surprised.CNN is the biggest embarrassment to journalism in history.They would have cried tears for poor misunderstood Hitler.The sickening way they portray these rapist’s is beyond the pale.If they are not summarily fired for this,it would be a disgrace.My heart goes out to the victim,she must be devastated even more than she must already be seeing this garbage spewed out by these so called newspeople.

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    • theglockguy007
      Posted on March 18, 2013 at 2:41pm

      Unfortunately you are right, High school football in Ohio is huge. People were more worried about future stars in the making for Ohio State than justice. Why didnt the guys get charged as adults, as they should have?

      Another side of the liberals “war on womens self-defense”.

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    • peaceangel
      Posted on March 18, 2013 at 7:36pm

      No, attention to detail—-justiceday is right for bringing this up.
      I have counseled war vets for four decades since Viet Nam where our military raped thousands of women and left them pregnant. I am a rape crisis counselor but have just counseled any vet who needed me for free. For you to say that rape is no bigger in the military than in the general public totally misses the point of the problem. Hundreds of thousands of women and men who enter our military since before Nam have been raped. Today it is far worse than ever before. Not only do the rape victims come home severely traumatized but the rapists do also.

      And the issue in the military is first and foremost that under the umbrella of this government organization, no one would go in knowing they could be raped while in service. It appears to be a contradiction of all that is taught in the military.Rape is also happening with great regularity in schools like West Point.
      Secondly, it is estimated by the Pentagon who recently were interviewed by 60 minutes on suicide in the military that 20,000 rapes are happening annually in the military and of those less than 134 cases result in any kind of punishment whatsoever and all that is very different from the “norm” in America. Thirdly, far too many of those rapes are gang rapes and many of the victims are men and the rapists are often men who have been doing this for decades. The military owes America an apology for continuing to allow this to continue.

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  • An AmericanMom
    Posted on March 18, 2013 at 9:42am

    townspeople have been reluctant to aid the prosecution of the crime in any way, lest it jeopardize The Big Red’s chances at another state championship.

    Nate Hubbard, 27, a volunteer Big Red coach, went so far as to accuse the victim of making the whole thing up to excuse a night of excessive partying, “The rape was just an excuse, I think,” he told the New York Times.

    http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2013/01/03/hackers-produce-disturbing-video-evidence-in-ohio-gang-rape-case

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    • ammypearson
      Posted on March 18, 2013 at 10:03am

      This is a product of our Liberal society. Athletes are GODS and they are more important than a young girl. Yet, these same people are the first to talk about how conservatives are starting a war on women. Morals and decency are a thing of the past.

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    • team1blazer
      Posted on March 18, 2013 at 8:17pm

      After watching that discusting punk, I’m mortified. How could any human being be so callous and uncaring? This sick, sorry excuse for a human being needs to be the recipient of some of his own brand of “fun”….maybe the judge should drug him and rape him with a baseball bat….or maybe just take the baseball bat to his head.

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  • Dame.Felis.Catus
    Posted on March 18, 2013 at 9:40am

    Tell CNN what you think of Candy Crowley and Poppy Harlows report on “State of the Union with Candy Crowley”.
    http://edition.cnn.com/feedback/show/?s=stateunion&hdln=2

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  • An AmericanMom
    Posted on March 18, 2013 at 9:40am

    If you are interested in why this case is so disturbing….here is more of the story and yes…it’s shocking!!!!

    Hackers produce disturbing video evidence in Ohio gang rape case

    According to the Atlantic Wire, hackers are intervening, putting now-scrubbed evidence back online because other teenagers and citizens of football-crazed Steubenville, Ohio are proving to be reluctant to help authorities prosecute a rape case against the town’s teenage football stars.

    “She is so raped right now,” said Nodianos to the camera. “There won’t be any foreplay for a dead girl. It ain’t wet now, to be honest. Trust me, I’m a doctor.”

    He was referring to an incident in late August, when two players on Steubenville High School’s prestigious football team, The Big Red, reportedly drugged a 16-year-old girl and sexually assaulted her, carrying her unconscious body by the wrists and ankles from party to party, urinating on her and abandoning her at the end of the night at her parents’ house. The players, Trent Mays and Ma’lik Richmond, are currently on house arrest in Steubenville after being remanded from the county juvenile detention center.

    The boys glorified their crime online, shooting Instagram photos of the assault, making lewd updates on Facebook and Twitter, and allowing their friends, like Nodianos, to shoot photos and make their own updates and videos about the incident. In spite of the abduction and attack’s high profile in social media, townspe

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  • biohazard23
    Posted on March 18, 2013 at 9:35am

    And we’re surprised by this because…?

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    • john vincent
      Posted on March 18, 2013 at 9:55am

      -bio
      right,
      cnn and co. are guilty of raping the minds of Americans who turn to them for ‘real news,’ not filtered through the prism of a way left, almost toppled over tilted lens- so yes, expected, but still shameful-

      These people are nefarious————-and sadly the average news watcher knows no difference between msnbc, cnn, or Peyton Place- its just ‘watching tv.’

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  • Advection
    Posted on March 18, 2013 at 9:34am

    Was CNN talking about rape-rape or just your garden-variety rape?

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    • NewCreationDave
      Posted on March 18, 2013 at 10:29am

      Touche!!! (Idiot Joe One-Heartbeat-Away strikes again, eh?)

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    • uziah51
      Posted on March 18, 2013 at 7:21pm

      i think legislation is needed to outlaw high potency alcohol and large capacity bottles surely this will
      stop this from happening

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  • FeliciaJewel
    Posted on March 18, 2013 at 9:33am

    I never thought I would hear anyone talk about the perpetrators in a way that almost idolizes. This of course is my opinion. I do not want to turn on the news and find anyone speaking in a sad fashion about a rapist!!! They make me sick!!! Is this what we have become??? Feel sorry for a rapist??? I do not feel sorry for any rapist, throw away the key!!!

    To the family of the real victim, I am so sorry that you have to endure this stupidity.

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    • retiredguy1952
      Posted on March 19, 2013 at 11:25am

      The girl AND her family should have a lot of say in how those two douchenozzles should be punished.

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  • Dushman Kush
    Posted on March 18, 2013 at 9:30am

    When Glenn Beck left CNN, so did all of the Comrades. Candy Crowley is a viperous harridan of the worst sort.

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    • Walkabout
      Posted on March 18, 2013 at 2:49pm

      Dude, you reasoning is all over the place. We can only imagine why. :)

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  • IndyGuy
    Posted on March 18, 2013 at 9:27am

    Crowly’s just mad that nobody would even consider raping her…

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  • Digital Sapien
    Posted on March 18, 2013 at 9:26am

    I really don’t understand people some times. Yes they did something wrong, and yes they deserve to be punished, but nobody is winning in this situation, there is nothing to be happy about. We should be satisfied that justice was done but there is nothing good here and there is nothing wrong noting that.

    On a side note, I know this is controversial, but I think its true. Society is not tough enough on women who put themselves into dangerous situations. We sit there and tell women “it’s totally fine to go to party alone, with a bunch of strange guys, get completely drunk, and if anything happens to you it’s not your fault you didn’t do anything wrong”. No, that is a bad decision for a woman to make and we as a society should condemn that sort of behavior.

    For example

    If I, as a white man, walked through Brooklyn at night wearing a shirt that said “I hate N******”, and I got my **** royally kicked, there is not a person is the country that wouldn’t say I didn’t deserve what I got. Even though it is totally legal in the United States to 1. Walk through Brooklyn at night 2. Wear whatever cloths I want, that has whatever I want written on it. So even though I wasn’t “breaking the law” America would have no problem condemning me for making such a poor decision.

    We need to make women in the country feel that getting drunk, alone, with strange guys is a bad idea that invites danger.

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    • DimmuBorgir
      Posted on March 18, 2013 at 9:36am

      awesome comment.

      I totally agree with what you’re saying. Too often women are given a pass when it comes to their behavior.

      I know no one would be standing up for me if I got jumped wearing a shirt like that.

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    • Tsam
      Posted on March 18, 2013 at 10:21am

      Of course it’s dangerous for girls/women to get drunk with guys. And why is it dangerous? Because boys and men cannot control themselves? Really? They ARE INCAPABLE OF CONTROLLING THEMSELVES so blame must be laid on the women?

      In some Islamic countries they believe the same thing. That’s why their women wear burqas or are otherwise covered. Because MEN CANNOT BE HELD ACCOUNTABLE for their actions.

      This is failed “logic” and misogynist. Human beings are responsible for their actions. If you physically accost another person YOU are responsible, not the other person.

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    • PilgrimStuckInBizarroWorld
      Posted on March 18, 2013 at 10:42am

      A year in prison is justice. I think not. What these men did to that lady will never leave her. It will impact her life for life. The rapist should have got a lot more time.

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    • PoliticalTruths.Net
      Posted on March 18, 2013 at 10:48am

      TSAM, nobody said that they were incapable of controlling themselves. But, Digital Sapien is right. Rape is the only situation in which we tell people that the victim has no concern whatsoever for risk abatement; that a woman can behave however she pleases without taking into account what danger she invites. We don’t do it in other crimes, only rape.

      Of course they are responsible for the rape. But, if alcohol excuses her behavior and mitigates any blame she has; why doesn’t alcohol excuse their behavior and mitigate their blame?

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    • David-FL
      Posted on March 18, 2013 at 11:12am

      @ Digital, something very good happened. The men weren’t lynched without a tiral. Their evidence and defense were presented, and they lost. They will now do time for their crime. That is very, very good.

      And yes, there [are] winners in this. Society wins.

      Tho, in my belief, rapists should get the ultimate penalty – death. When I was in the Phillipines they put a man down for rape. They broadcasted it over tv and radio for all to know. Tho the sex trade is very prelavent, rape is not. You don’t have to worry about repeat offenders there, which are a high percentage here in the USA.

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    • David-FL
      Posted on March 18, 2013 at 11:14am

      I meant [trial] not tiral…

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    • andrew36
      Posted on March 18, 2013 at 11:33am

      So your saying if a girl gets drunk with strangers shes asking for sex. Wow just wow. Ignorance dicks like you are the problem, while ever dicks like you keep saying that the woman should take some of the blame, guys like these two will think taking advantage of drunk woman is okay. Should woman get drunk with strangers, no, but to say they deserve to take some of the blame for been raped is just ridiculous. The reason guys cant blame the alcohol is because rape is illegal. Getting drunk and flirting isnt illegal. So if a straight guy gets drunk and is taken advantage of by a couple of homosexuals would you feel the same. By the way if you cant see the difference between wearing that shirt in a black neighborhood and a woman getting drunk then you have serious problems.

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    • Southerner01
      Posted on March 18, 2013 at 11:43am

      SO are you saying that the girl had a “rape me” t-shirt on, or was this just a bad analogy? What if you jsut walked through Brooklyn at night, with a regular golf shirt on? Is it still your fault if you get mugged?

      Whether or not a victim makes good defensive decisions, does not excuse the criminal. It is NEVER ok to rape someone. Scanty clothing or being at a party are not invitations to rape. While it may be safer to avoid parties and wear a burka, do we really want to be a society like that?

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    • CLEttinger
      Posted on March 18, 2013 at 1:16pm

      Wow, just wow, you sound like a Muslim cleric, they would have let the boys go and stoned the women to death. She might… MIGHT have been dressed provocatively and that makes it somehow understandable to rape her. You sir are a moron. I don’t know where you are from or your background but I was raised to respect women, not just the ones who dressed in burka’s or business suits. I just don’t understand the complete lack of morality in what appears to be the majority of today’s youth.

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    • SteveinSC
      Posted on March 18, 2013 at 3:16pm

      I don’t think anyone is saying that the rapists are not COMPLETELY to blame for their actions – bad analogies not withstanding. However, I think the point they’re trying to make is that if this 16 year-old had not been drunk at a party full of “strange” guys, she COULD NOT have been raped by them. She was underage and out drinking at a party. (Was she drugged? I don’t recall.) Where were her parents? Did they have any idea where she was or who she was with? I always knew where my 16 year-old was and who she was with and she got grounded when she didn’t check in like she was supposed to. I’m not blaming her as I said, but she had no business being there even if there were no guys present – unless the drinking age in Ohio is 16 which, of course it isn’t. Now it is my understanding that she was infatuated with one of the guys and he took advantage of that to put her in this situation. People often exercise poor judgment when they’re “in love” or “have a crush” on someone. I think it’s awful that the guy took advantage of her feelings for him to put her in extreme danger. She obviously really didn’t know who he was inside.

      They are heartless b@stards in my book. The right term for them is “ruthless” – i.e., lacking the warmth of human kindness. They deserve far worse than they got. This is the sort of think we can expect as we drive God from our schools, public sphere, our homes and our children’s hearts.

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    • Just_Us2
      Posted on March 18, 2013 at 3:43pm

      I have no sympathy for these guys. I have no sympathy for the girl either. When grocery shopping, my wife has a habit of leaving her purse in the cart, open, with money visible..then she walks off leaving it unattended and not in sight. One day she had $100 missing from her purse when she went to buy groceries. We had to do with a bit less that month. It is one thing to be trusting, but quite another to be totally naive and oblivious. She made it so easy for someone to come along and take what was not theirs. Was she a victim of a crime…you bet. While my wife was not to blame for the theft, she enabled someone…made it downright convenient…just short of a flashing sign that says steal my money! Now she keeps her purse zipped and her valuables out of sight…..I wonder if this girl will make better choices next time too.

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    • ScottishWoman
      Posted on March 18, 2013 at 5:41pm

      @JUST_US2

      Just so we’re clear. In your mind my ****** = open wallet.

      FYI. Your mind is a scary place.

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    • ScottishWoman
      Posted on March 18, 2013 at 5:59pm

      Oh America. You can buy a semi automatic, but you can’t say the word vag………(don’t worry mods, I was totally going to say ‘special place’).

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    • Digital Sapien
      Posted on March 18, 2013 at 10:00pm

      I challenge anyone who disagrees me with to answer these questions.

      1. Is it illegal for me to walk down the streets of Brooklyn at night?
      (Hint: It is legal)
      2. Is it illegal for me to wear a shirt that says “I hate N******”?
      (Hint: It is legal)
      3. Would you blame me if I was assaulted for wearing that shirt?
      (Hint: Of course you would blame me, and then call me an idiot and say I got what I deserved)

      Yes it is legal for women to go to any party they want, wearing any clothes they want, does that make it a good idea? No.

      How would suggesting to the women of America, that going to a party alone and getting drunk with a bunch of strange guys is not very safe, do anything other than reduce the amount of rapes?

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    • Digital Sapien
      Posted on March 18, 2013 at 10:16pm

      Also, fine if you guys don’t like my analogy let me rephrase to better suit you.

      Imagine you are reading a news story about a a white guy in an Armani suit, Rolex watch, and $700 Italian shoes, that got mugged in Brooklyn at 2:30 AM while walking through an alley by himself.

      He didn’t do anything wrong, illegal or immoral and yet you would have no problem calling a guy who wears a Rolex, an Armani suit, and $700 shoes an idiot for walking through a Brooklyn at 2:30 AM by himself. And you would have absolutely no problem saying that he is partly to blame for the mugging.

      Explain why that is different than rape.

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    • Verceofreason
      Posted on March 19, 2013 at 2:39pm

      She KNEW these guys. hell-O
      A little blame the victim going on here.
      You’re as bad as Crowley.

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    • Marine25
      Posted on March 19, 2013 at 9:49pm

      @digital
      Might be a bad idea. But she is not at fault. She committed no crime. Your reasoning is so very similar to that which seems to infect politicians anytime they speak of rape.
      I am one who would say your tee-shirt message will a poor decision but you do not deserve to be assaulted. One cannot assault another and claim ‘they were asking for it’. We learned that in elementary school. Well, most of us did.

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    • brliso
      Posted on March 19, 2013 at 9:51pm

      Yeh there is a double standard of sorts. I remember when that female teacher was charged with having an affair with a minor but was not convicted because the judge said she was “to pretty” to go to jail. A man would have been drawn and quartered and THEN sent to jal

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    • Digital Sapien
      Posted on March 20, 2013 at 8:21am

      I love how you people keep telling me I am wrong but then comepletely ignore the points I am making.

      “She KNEW these guys. hell-O
      A little blame the victim going on here.
      You’re as bad as Crowley.”

      Tell me how this is different than the guy in the Armani suit at 2:30 AM.

      No one here has yet to even deny the fact that every single person in this country would blame a guy in an expensive suit for being in a dangerous part of town at night alone. THAT IS NOT A CRIME. Yet you people would still CONDEMN his actions. Just because something is legal doesn’t make it a good idea.

      You want to live in this fantasy world where you can pretend that nothing bad will ever happen to you no matter what you do.

      If I am a crosswalk with the right-of-way, I don’t step out and cross the road just because it’s “legal” for me to cross, check to see if a bus is coming. If you step out in front of a bus that runs a red light, yes you did nothing wrong and it is entirely the other person’s fault for running a red light, but you are going to loose that fight. JUST BECAUSE SOMETHING IS LEGAL DOESN’T MEAN IT IS SAFE OR SMART.

      “Might be a bad idea. But she is not at fault. She committed no crime. Your reasoning is so very similar to that which seems to infect politicians anytime they speak of rape.”

      Explain to me the fundamental principle behind your belief that women should wear whatever they, whenever they want, and act whatever way they want with absolutely no con

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  • SpankDaMonkey
    Posted on March 18, 2013 at 9:18am

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    Candy & Poppy should be sent to a prison and thrown out in the general population exercise yard for a couple of hours of harmless Boy Toy fun…..

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    • charper1013
      Posted on March 18, 2013 at 10:13am

      Translation of your comment: “These women weren’t sympathetic enough to a rape victim on the news therefore they should be raped!”

      Can we all stop demanding people be raped/killed/whatever when they say or do something we don’t like? That’s not helping anybody.

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    • Southerner01
      Posted on March 18, 2013 at 11:52am

      Even a prisoner wouldn’t touch “Candy” Crawley. Then again, if one did, he could probably get his sentence commuted for cruel and unusual punishment.

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  • Chromo200
    Posted on March 18, 2013 at 9:17am

    I wonder what NOW and the women’s group will say about the length of the sentence and the attitude of the CNN crowd.

    I say no fuss will be made about his .. payback for Ohio for electing their “King”.

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    • Unbelievable
      Posted on March 18, 2013 at 9:39am

      It’s ok… They’re liberals and it’s ok for liberals to step all over women victims.

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  • Dodsfall
    Posted on March 18, 2013 at 9:16am

    The system might have just worked in this case. If these two mentally-defective rapists had not been caught now, who knows what atrocities they would have committed later on. At least being labeled sex offenders and rapists for the rest of their lives might give some innocents a head’s up in the future.

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  • An AmericanMom
    Posted on March 18, 2013 at 9:14am

    “Two star football player….”

    That’s how old Candy starts out her comments…then Poppy chimes in…”it’s hard to watch these two young men, promising star football players and very good students learn their fate as they literary just watched their lives fell apart”……HELLO LADIES?????

    These young men weren’t just innocent Boys Scouts……they raped a girl……

    I don’t care if they had just found the cure for cancer…..THEY RAPED A GIRL!

    You LADIES (?) show all the compassion in the world for these creeps…..yet……none for the victim….WOW!!!

    Ma’lik Richmond collapses into his lawyer’s arms..and says….”NO ONE IS GOING TO WANT ME NOW” obviously talking about college coaches looking at him to continue to play football…

    Don’t you think the victim has said the same thing everyday since she was raped ………
    “NO ONE IS GOING TO WANT ME NOW” but not about playing football at the next level….
    but about her having a relationship…………………………………………………… .shameless!!!!!

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    • john vincent
      Posted on March 18, 2013 at 9:34am

      -amer mom

      Shining example of the defective minds of Crowley and friends- In other countries these ‘boys’ heads would roll-

      Candy and company are pathetic vultures of journalists-

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    • starman70
      Posted on March 18, 2013 at 9:46am

      This is a deeply saddening event, both for the two young men but also for the girl involved. What was she thinking, allowing herself to get that drunk? Why was a 16 year old young lady in that situation at all? Where were her parents? In whose house did the party take place? Where were the owners of the house? These are all serious questions.

      Unfortunately, here we have a prime example of the total lack of morality training both at the young men’s homes and the school system. When morality based training, Biblical principles and proper social conduct lessons were removed from our schools and replaced with, “Outcome based principles (Any means to an end is acceptable, as long as you win) there will be more of these kind of things happenings. Much the same thing is happening all across the country the only thing is that most of these cases don’t receive national media exposure because there are not sports figures involved.

      We must all pray that GOD will forgive the young men involved and that HE will lead, guide and direct the life of the victim and her family.

      The biggest lesson for all teenagers is that they MUST be very careful about who they party with and don’t allow themselves to be enticed into the consumption of alcohol, drugs and allow themselves to be exploited.

      Parents MUST be fully aware of where their children are and who they are with. Make sure that there are responsible adults at any party for their kids.

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    • JohnTwoFeathers
      Posted on March 18, 2013 at 10:15am

      Mom, there are going to be plenty of people wanting them now. They are heading to a juvenile sex offender prison just south of Columbus. They will be in a relationship much sooner than they expected. I sure hope the best for them and to show my support I’m sending them each a pair of crotchless pink panties. Semper Fi

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    • PattiR
      Posted on March 18, 2013 at 10:40pm

      AND the other guy says he shouldn’t have sent the picture around, let alone taking it. REALLY????? How about you shouldn’t have raped that girl and hauled her around like trash. These two MEN have no moral character. The 14 or 17 people who refused to talk to the police should also be prosecuted. These people are disgusting. The town that demonizes the girl is disgusting. America- take a good, hard look at these two. This is what we get when we accept moral relativity.

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  • RaydocX
    Posted on March 18, 2013 at 9:14am

    Having not heard the facts beyond two young men both apparently having sex with a girl who says she doesn’t remember it, suggesting both a callous disregard for her as a person and a lack of consent, I was amazed at the conviction…

    I have a dear friend who during college was drunk at a sorority party, passed out alone in a sister’s room at which point a classmate chose to rape her… And clearly enough knew that it was wrong that when others came in he fled… And was subsequently found not guilt of rape.

    Alternatively, a former colleague whose word I believe was involved in consensual sex wherein the woman ‘changed her mind’ and began a years long nightmare for him to clear his name,

    Sadly, justice seems capricious, and is sometimes absent.
    And that ignores thse on the far right making ridiculous claims about rape consequences, AND those on the Left… It’s not just about power, yes that is the trigger but it indelibly affects victims sexuality… It doesn’t matter if it’s just penetration once or ’20 seconds’… Anyone willing to so violate another deserves to run up against an armed woman, and the idea of forcing a woman pregnant by rape to have the baby is repugnant… Grace to be sure for a victim to choose that, but it should be her choice.

    A society that has led high schoolers to think using or sharing young women is acceptable s failing every person, but each person is responsible for their actions… I think the boys knew what they did was wr

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    • David-FL
      Posted on March 18, 2013 at 11:34am

      You are obviously unfamiliar with this case and admitted to that fact yourself. Therefore, you should have have restrained yourself from any judgement, because what you wrote, make you look stupid.

      Kinda reminds me of “the police acted stupidly” – Obama

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  • braddock66
    Posted on March 18, 2013 at 9:12am

    Poor guys, I hope CNN could offer these kids a job when they’re released. Maybe they could host a presidential debate one day like “Candy”

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    • SocialistSlayer
      Posted on March 18, 2013 at 9:19am

      :) – Once Hired – Candy Crowley and Poppy Harlow should share their desks with these “fine young men” !

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    • Southerner01
      Posted on March 18, 2013 at 11:57am

      Give them to Candy as sex toys. What could be a worse punishment than that.

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  • progressiveslayer
    Posted on March 18, 2013 at 9:04am

    Harlow sure sounded sympathetic towards the two rapists,I wonder how she’d sound while being gang raped or if she’d be sympathetic towards her rapists. Their reaction to the sentencing is perverted and disgusting and it’s another reason why I stopped watching msm idiots many years ago. No mention of the real victim in this case because they have no concern for her they only have concern for two convicted rapists,pathetic indeed.

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    • oldguy49
      Posted on March 18, 2013 at 9:15am

      yep…..let her go to cairo and cover the mussies a couple of times to give her a little perspective……………

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    • GONE_SOVEREIGN
      Posted on March 18, 2013 at 9:48am

      Slayer, maybe that’s the way Candy “rolls”?! ;-)

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  • krookedken
    Posted on March 18, 2013 at 9:03am

    Poor, Poor rapist… remember CNN, the female was the victim!

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    • Small World
      Posted on March 18, 2013 at 1:02pm

      Wait, she got drunk what’s the problem….you get drunk you get raped.No morals. No values.What the he!! is wrong with people????

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  • BlackCrow
    Posted on March 18, 2013 at 9:03am

    Those two punks should be looking at 20 years in a no kidding prison. They knew what they were doing was wrong when they were doing it. Then having the gall to post pictures to Facebook ? Cold, callus and arrogant! These punks need to go away for a LONG time!

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    • David-FL
      Posted on March 18, 2013 at 12:40pm

      @ BlackCrow – I agree 100%!

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    • AlansTigg
      Posted on March 18, 2013 at 2:43pm

      Honestly it was the overall attitude that really shocked me here…rape has existed forever, some people are just wired wrong, as a society we’ve been clear on what we think of it, but somehow our morals have become so erroded that the rape of this girl was entertainment for so many, even those quite a bit removed from the situation, and now that they get a sorry excuse for a sentence, news morons sympathize with the criminals. We live in a very scary world

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  • Watcher1952
    Posted on March 18, 2013 at 9:02am

    Candy Crowley….Poppy and this ignorant Lawyer….What gems they are to Society…..not one mention of the trauma and lasting memory of the young lady. All about ruining the lives of two rapists……Sex offenders for the rest of their lives……both need to be put at hard labor …chain gang for the time in juvie…..get them toughened up for the hard time to come in the big house…..

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    • mlimberg
      Posted on March 18, 2013 at 2:53pm

      Heaven forbid, if this had happened to Candy or Poppy or their daughters or the mouth piece in the suite, would they had the same sympathy for the young men?

      I’ll bet now…..

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  • Sargeking
    Posted on March 18, 2013 at 9:02am

    I know I’m not the only one but if it wasn’t for the BLAZE I would’ve never read this story. You know, that’s the big problem with today’s lamebrain, mainstream media. Furthermore, on their part they must also listen to Rush and Hannity to get the real news. Once the old media of the Big Three had lost their monopoly on the worldwide news the truth finally broke out. I thank God for that!

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  • freedomforus
    Posted on March 18, 2013 at 9:01am

    I saw the same type of reaction from the general population posting on our local pages when reported..kfvs12, the men were trying to make it that she drank and put herself in the situation..reminded me of sharia law..scary.

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  • jungle J
    Posted on March 18, 2013 at 9:01am

    Only the mentally ill don’t understand that the mentally ill rule most of the news media and government and social programs and politics. Only the sane understand.

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