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Here Are Two Reminders That Obamacare Is Going Be a Bureaucratic Nightmare

Mar. 20, 2013 11:11am Becket Adams

Here Are Two Reminders That Obamacare Will Be Controlled By a Bloated Bureaucracy

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It appears that several notable Republicans, including Congressmen Eric Cantor, John Boehner, Kevin McCarthy, and Paul Ryan, have surrendered the fight over repealing President’s Barack Obama’s health care law.

So, although there are a few options left to fight the massive healthcare overhaul, it looks like it’s here to stay — and you may want to get used to the idea.

That being said, here are two simple reminders that the program – which will be responsible for your personal health – will be run by a massive federal bureaucracy.

First, here’s a copy the 21-page draft application Americans will have to fill out in order to access the health law’s subsidized insurance coverage [courtesy the Washington Post]:

And although the above looks daunting (and asks applicants for an awful lot of personal information), take heart in knowing that most Americans will never see it.

“Most who access health insurance through the exchange are expected to do so online, not in paper,” the WaPo’s Sarah Kliff explains.

Well, that’s a relief.

But, really, do the feds seriously expect people to fill out that form? What are they thinking? This brings us to our second reminder.

The following flow chart “comes from the National Association of Insurance Commissioners, which represents the regulators who oversee each state’s insurance market. It is an attempt to draw up the most basic, simple questions to determine eligibility for insurance subsidies or Medicaid,” Kliff notes:

Courtesy the WaPo.

“You don’t have to spend much time with the chart to get that, it’s really not simple at all,” she adds.

“It can take as many as six questions just to determine an individual’s ability to buy insurance. An eight-question chain sorts out eligibility to eschew employer coverage and buy an individual plan with a tax credit instead,” Kliff explains.

In short, the purpose of the 21-page form is to collect enough information to see where applicants land on the flow chart.

Have fun.

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Comments (102)

Margyt
Posted on March 20, 2013 at 12:37pm
We have Obamacare because the health care system is in crisis and the players couldn’t give up self-serving responses instead of coming to the table as real reformers. Money, not medical care, has come to drive the system. There are problems on every level. I personally think that starts with a distorted idea of what we deserve in regard to longevity and an inability to embrace mortality. The time to address the problem was 20 years ago. We didn’t and now we will have to face the consequences. The repubs literally created the environment that allowed BO to march in with his agenda and succeed in his goal of driving the final nail in the healthcare coffin. Let this be a warning. The destruction of the health care system mirrors what is happening in the whole economy.
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- Clownzilla
  Posted on March 20, 2013 at 1:13pm
  @MArgyt
  
  “I personally think that starts with a distorted idea of what we deserve in regard to longevity and an inability to embrace mortality.”
  
  If your a connected politician then you embrace longevity but the common man can die for the people. This is Communist BS that discounts the value of the personal soul and it’s what creates a well paved road to genocide.
  
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- welldoneson
  Posted on March 20, 2013 at 1:28pm
  Blaming the Repubs for Obamacare = moron.
  
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- Steve28
  Posted on March 20, 2013 at 1:34pm
  I disagree. This is and has been nothing more than a power grab by the left. Bill &Hillary tried and failed , but Obama shoved it through. Now they cannot only say Republican will starve old people and children, but take away your Medicare, Social Security and now healthcare. They will own the vote and power by rule of fear and the productive will pay the bills. They past an incomplete bill that no one knew what was in it. Well, you are about to find out what a real nightmare it really is.
  
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- JRook
  Posted on March 20, 2013 at 1:54pm
  @Steve28 Guess it was a power grab when Nixon promoted the idea of National Health Insurance. The health care industry in the US is the next industry that will implode in the US. Perhaps all the smart, insightful individuals here can explain whey we spend twice the amount per capita on health care in the US then the next most expensive system, yet are overall health ranks 37th. The military industrial complex, the banking industry, the IT industry like the health car industry fight over who can get as much federal spending as possible. The fundamental problem is that large corporations and their wealthy investors are drunk with federal money and contrary to conventional wisdom is the greatest transfer of wealth from the middle & lower classes to the wealthy that was ever devised. And your 401K and TSA are parts of that transfer, you just don’t know it yet. Non-profit hospitals in the US make 10+ percent excess revenues over expenses, drug companies charge US patients 50% or more for the same drug they sell in other countries and physicians make on average more than twice what they do in other developed countries. The system was economic mess and huge wealth transfer before Obamacare. The real mistake is we didn’t follow Nixon’s advice and move to national health insurance decades ago.
- dwsmokin
  Posted on March 20, 2013 at 1:58pm
  What a crock! Money has always driven the system, and always will. Oh it sounded great when Obama presented it as “free” or “affordable”, but it took him and his cronies about 2 seconds to figure out they couldn’t afford to do it. Why do you think so many wonder drugs, or treatments have been discovered in the US? Could it be the capitalist motive? Or why is there a lawyer on TV every hour asking anyone who took a certain drug to sign on to a class action? The same people who rip the insurance and drug companies don’t bat an eye when those companies have to spend billions to defend useless lawsuits. Or the docs that you see every day have to spend 6 figures on malpractice insurance. Dolt.
  
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- Proverbs17-12NLT
  Posted on March 20, 2013 at 2:07pm
  It will be too late when democrats realize this boondoggle affects them also. Obama screwing all Americans except the democrat 1%ers
  
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- Jaycen
  Posted on March 20, 2013 at 2:41pm
  @Margyt
  
  Wrong, you stupid asshat. We have Obamacare, because Americans are weak. We should be burning federal buildings to the ground right now, but we keep lying to ourselves that there’s a non-violent answer.
  
  You had freedom to choose your healthcare before. Now you have NO freedom. You’re a damned idiot.
  
  I was literally just at a seminar where a woman was explaining that hospitals will be penalized if they release a patient and that patient returns within 30 days for the same problem. What in the hell do you think the result of that rule will be? Forced stays in the hospital? Exhorbitant fees for hospital stays, because new people can’t get in, and the hospital would rather incur the extra cost to keep you than have to face a steeper fine?
  
  What about people who do get out and then legitimatly need to go back in, because something was overlooked? Doctors are humans who make mistakes. Do you think the hospital is going to be honest and admit you immediately? Or will they make excuses, and try to convince you that there must be a different reason why you’re coming back. Or maybe you don’t really need to come back at all.
  
  IDIOT.
  
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- Jaycen
  Posted on March 20, 2013 at 2:43pm
  @JRook
  
  Hey, stupid. Who cares what happened 40 years ago? Jesus, man. How dumb are you?
  
  I don’t care what Nixon did. He’s dead. He can’t affect my life today, but Obama and his drones sure can. You’re one of them, JRook. A mindless automoton marching in lock-step with other fools.
  
  You make up excuses for bad behavior all the while the train is running full steam down the tracks right at YOU. You’re going to be just as screwed, idiot. Drop the BS, man.
  
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- .rjk
  Posted on March 20, 2013 at 2:51pm
  no, its because people use health insurance for reasons that insurance is not designed.
  
  using insurance at an ENT for a z-pack when a do-n-the box can get you one for less than 100 bucks is like putting an oil change on your car insurance and wondering why my rates went up.
  
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- YourArgumentIsInvalid
  Posted on March 20, 2013 at 3:06pm
  There are certainly automatons on both sides. Here is how you can tell. In reading this article people didn’t seem to notice that the first part of the “bureaucratic nightmare” ahead of us is a 21 page form that people who currently don’t have healthcare would fill out to get healthcare. I am sure those people that have cancer but can’t get treatment are going to be really bummed that instead of being turned away or racking up bills they can never afford to pay back they have to fill out this 21 page form. oh the injustice.
  
  Oh and if you actaully read up on the form you will find out that this is something you have to fill out once to have on file. Kind of like the first time you go to a doctor and they get a full medical work up and history, but yes I would much rather die due to lack of affordable healthcare then fill out paperwork.
  
  Your argument is invalid.
  
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- Jaycen
  Posted on March 20, 2013 at 4:35pm
  @YourArgumentIsInvalid
  
  I’d rather you died from lack of health insurance than steel a penny from my neighbor to pay for it.
  
  You don’t have a right to my neighbor’s money. You are an evil person if you think you have a right to another person’s property – for ANY reason.
  
  You are the problem in our country. You’ll force me at gunpoint to give you whatever you want. You’re a selfish, horrible person who is happy to stomp all over the rights of others if it gets you want you want.
  
  That’s not unAmerican. It’s anti-American.
  
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- chickiefromthesouth
  Posted on March 20, 2013 at 5:38pm
  @JAYCEN
  
  AMEN! If people could just grasp this concept…
  
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- YourArgumentIsInvalid
  Posted on March 20, 2013 at 5:47pm
  @jaycen
  
  How very christian (not sure if you are) of you to wish death upon people. I would hardly call taxes theft, conservative stole $1.4 trillion to attack two nations, but of course that wasn’t theft, social security is not theft, but somehow my hypothetical (I can actually afford health insurance and pay for it) need to get help paying for procedures that costs hundreds of thousands of dollars to stay alive is THEFT!
  
  But even if I were to entertain your uneducated asinine idea that people who can’t afford healthcare should die, that is not what actually happens. The U.S. does not turn away people with illness that require help. It is in part why your health insurance costs are so high, and your taxes are high. Are you unfamiliar with “uncompensated care.” Poor people can’t afford doctor visits, so they go to emergency care, long after preventative care could have helped and saved us all money, and then when they can’t pay, your premiums, and taxes, and healthcare bills go up. If you are truly against “theft” you might want to consider a system that either lets anyone who is sick and not “rich enough to afford it” die, or as it currently stands the Obama Insurance plan, with it’s bureaucracy, and problems will actually cause less theft than the system we currently have. Hence my Automatons comments, Obamacare is a republican idea, but a Democrat proposed it so it must be evil!
  
  Your Argument Is STILL Invalid.
dwf1
Posted on March 20, 2013 at 12:31pm
The House holds the purse string and did not have to fund BOCare. That would have stopped it. Why did the GOP controlled house fund the bill?

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- Silvertruth
  Posted on March 20, 2013 at 12:38pm
  Because both sides benefit by the program. The Democrats are in power today and think they are invincible. When the Republicans get back in power with all that power that the Dems now have, you will see all kinds of wailing and crying about how evil it is.
  
  Turnabout is fair play.
  
  Either way, the losers in all this are the American Public and Freedom.
  
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- dwf1
  Posted on March 20, 2013 at 12:48pm
  Sil,
  I know, just saying.
  
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- Psycho58D
  Posted on March 20, 2013 at 3:26pm
  I may be wrong but I think the Pres. signed the bill into law in MAR of ’10. NOV ’10 was election in which the Republicans took the majority in the house. It was law by the time they took the house.
  
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Songbird
Posted on March 20, 2013 at 12:30pm
The house controls the money—–but the good guys couldn’t defund this and all have given up. Something not right about that. It would appear they tried but couldn’t do it. Why couldn’t they do it? Maybe some of the good guys really aren’t!!!!

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Zipit
Posted on March 20, 2013 at 12:29pm
Yeah DORA! So let’s committ to what Barack Hussein Obama has become so famous and successful at doing! Doubling down on failure!!!! It is your, and his European/Socialist dream!!!!

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wigone
Posted on March 20, 2013 at 12:29pm
When the Supreme Court ruled that Obama Care was only consitutional because it in essence is just a tax, I thought great now we can stop passing Legislation that is sold one way and then is determined later to be just a tax. The Obama Care plan turns out to be the Largest Tax increase in the history of mankind. But wait, I thought that there could be no taxation without representation? How can we have representation on tax issues if even our representatives either didn’t know that it was essentially a large tax increase or hid that fact from the Citizens that they represent…Obviously Taxation without representation is exactly what our elected officials continue to do!

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- spirited
  Posted on March 20, 2013 at 1:36pm
  Could Tax Law overhaul be the only way out?
  
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landowner
Posted on March 20, 2013 at 12:27pm
Defund it just like the Dems did with “the wall”. And we’re DONE.

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- dwf1
  Posted on March 20, 2013 at 12:46pm
  Absolutely, but the house voted to fund it. Why? Deceptacons!
  
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Johann
Posted on March 20, 2013 at 12:22pm
It is not just Obama who is stealing our liberty and our savings. We must never overlook that vast army of government bureaucrats who do his bidding. These people are willingly to serve their evil master so that they can continue their miserable little yuppie life style. Remember Hitler did not murder those ten million people by himself; he too had a vast army of government functionaries who carried out his plans. O tempora O mores

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Chrison
Posted on March 20, 2013 at 12:19pm
Heck, anybody who’s ever worked for government knows that a 21 page form is the SHORT form! Same thing with the flow chart… it fits on one page so it’s pretty damned simple, at least in government terms!

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SOUNDTHETRUMPET
Posted on March 20, 2013 at 12:06pm
Obama commiecare is just that. A communist health care system.

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JoeSix-Pack
Posted on March 20, 2013 at 12:05pm
What is of concern here is that we have only just begun to ‘”find out what is in it.”.

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GrayPanther
Posted on March 20, 2013 at 12:02pm
Without replacing the leadership in congress and replacing President Obama, nothing will change. Most Americans are too busy trying to make a living or living off of those who are to worry about Obama Care. Most people are sheep and easily led by the empty promises by government. The American Patriot must take shape and make our conservative leaders stand up passionately to the progressive crap being flushed out of Washington. Speak up the truth! Call the Democrats on their lying! Get in their face!

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- Derek01
  Posted on March 20, 2013 at 2:13pm
  Maybe, maybe when these huge bills hit them, people will get pissed and throw out these bums so we can finally kill ObamaCare
  
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denkat56
Posted on March 20, 2013 at 11:58am
Famous last words, we’ll Worry about what’s in the bill once it gets passed, as per Pelosi.

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vanswear
Posted on March 20, 2013 at 11:52am
No, i’d rather those that profit heavily keep control of the system because it is so affordable right now, the wait is non-existant, the quality of care is second to known. Yeah whatever, that’s why 80% of medical bankruptcies are from people that have medical insurance, becasue it’s so affordable. My favoprite thing is when doctors do uneccessary procedures so they can make that bank, do they care if they ruin somebody’s life, NO! I also enjoy those pill pushing doctors that get millions hook on pain killers all for profit. Presidents for the last 40 years have been trying to come up with a solution, but the special interest keeps getting in the way, remember profits over people is what our medical industry is all about, you business owners know what’s most important.

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- team1blazer
  Posted on March 20, 2013 at 2:05pm
  Doctors run all of those “unnecessary” tests, to lower their risk of exposure to lawsuits. It’s called “defensive medicine” and is necessary because of the runaway malpractice lawsuits, judgements and prohibitavely expensive malpractice insurance that have resulted. The “affordable healthcare act” (wow what a misnomer) addressed NONE of these problems, which represents over 30% of all healthcare costs. This act is not about healthcare reform, it is about power and control. All who fought for it are socialists, all who favored it are pawns.
  
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perry1980
Posted on March 20, 2013 at 11:43am
Good luck getting an appt to see a qualified doctor.

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- Mojoron
  Posted on March 20, 2013 at 11:54am
  It has already happened. My brother needs a cataract removed and the local doctor will not accept Medicare. I asked him how does the doctor stay in business since many Medicare patients are the ones who require cataracts and he was told by the surgeon that he makes all his money doing other surgeries and that Medicare doesn’t pay enough for him to waste his time performing surgery and their billing requirements often tie up their office personnel needlessly. He’s having to go to another surgeon in another town. If Obamacare is going to use the Medicare method of administration we are all in trouble.
  
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DJEyeDub
Posted on March 20, 2013 at 11:33am
Well America you let it come to this. The greatest healthcare system on the planet sold out (or highjacked) to big gub-mint. Now you will understand “equality” – rich or poor (except high level bureaucrats) you will see: equally crappy service, long lines waiting for Tx., thing like 2 years on a waiting list for a new hip or knee surgery; that is, only if you are one of the lucky ones selected to be allowed to have that performed…

How did you let this happen?

If this keep up, one day patriots will stop fighting for a country that is no longer worth fighting for.

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- AmericanStrega
  Posted on March 20, 2013 at 11:50am
  Hey, the majority of Americans didn’t want this piece of crap. Congress decided they knew best and voted it in.
  
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- DJEyeDub
  Posted on March 20, 2013 at 1:41pm
  Then you best call on the majority to stop it. There will be a point of no return, pray G-d it can be stopped before that end.
  
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- SadWingsRaging
  Posted on March 20, 2013 at 3:08pm
  Almost right,
  
  How much you want to bet that if you “donate” to whatever party is in charge or if you have enough just “donate” to both of them to cover every angle you will find a red carpet rolled out for you straight through admissions.
  
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ZAP
Posted on March 20, 2013 at 11:29am
Not me

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Snowleopard {gallery of cat folks}
Posted on March 20, 2013 at 11:29am
And so the nightmare grows without end.

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- AmericanStrega
  Posted on March 20, 2013 at 11:54am
  With all due respect Snow, the nightmare CONTINUES to grow without end. Forever and ever, world without end, Amen. We live in a very sad time and so many are going to suffer because of this law. May God help us.
  
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matt_c
Posted on March 20, 2013 at 11:26am
This is what I don’t get about the libbies out there in the wild, not the ones in office. You don’t trust corporations with health care because of corruption and greed. How then, can you possibly trust government, which is also rife with corruption and greed, with your health care. It makes no sense at all. Please explain it to me.

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- Calm Voice of Reason
  Posted on March 20, 2013 at 11:30am
  Because I don’t have a voice in the doings of a private company, where a government body is, ostensibly, under the authority of people I can choose or choose not to elect.
  
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- Jim S
  Posted on March 20, 2013 at 11:34am
  Here Are Two Reminders That Obamacare Will Be Controlled By a Massive Bureaucracy
  …you are aware that the current system is controlled by a massive bureaucracy NOW?…you do know this don’t you?..talk to ANYONE in healthcare services/billing..anyone…it just may get worse and cost more…but it’s horrible now…
  
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- mastice
  Posted on March 20, 2013 at 12:02pm
  @Calm Voice of Reason
  ((Because I don’t have a voice in the doings of a private company, where a government body is, ostensibly, under the authority of people I can choose or choose not to elect.))
  
  Good point – but you (we) still lose. Why? Because you vote for the carrot each and every time while ignoring the gun to the back of your head and the chains quietly being shackled to around your ankles. Societies lose when they start to vote for “money” (entitlements) and not on principle or the good of the country.
  
  Besides – one good thing about corporate control of “insurance” is if you don’t like it, leave it and get a different one. You didn’t “need” insurance (prior to the ACA). Now you are “required” to have insurance… either through government or these corporations. (so again, you lose, because now you have to choose between corporate greed – as people like you put it – or government red tape)
  
  I would really like for you to come back to the Blaze in 10 years, if it is still here, and tell us all if you still feel the same then as you do today about the state of government run health care. (which will be in place by then)
  
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- stopprintn
  Posted on March 20, 2013 at 12:26pm
  Bureaucrats are not elected………idiots!
  
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- Calm Voice of Reason
  Posted on March 20, 2013 at 12:40pm
  Mastice: I have always been uneasy about the individual mandate and I think that Obama built his whole plan on sandy ground, as the saying goes. But it looks like its going to be with us for a while, so, whatever. I am not in the least bit convinced, however, that the conservatives have the best interests of the country’s health either. Of all the problems with our health care system, the lack of transparency in intervention trials and drug effectiveness studies is, to me, the most horrific and stands as the primary reason I detest the “corporate greed”. Obama HAS attempted to address this issue, and in 2008 pushed for Comparative Effectiveness Research and was completely demonized by the Right as being anti-business. There is absolutely no rational basis for this judgement, yet the talking heads put it in the heads of conservatives that this was a bad thing. Not the case by a long shot. CER and other attempts to fix the drug and intervention approval process point the crux of the problems in our health care system and the corporate corruption on our regulatory bodies. These aspects of the ACA I support wholeheartedly. And so should every thinking person.
  
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- mastice
  Posted on March 20, 2013 at 12:43pm
  @stopprintn
  ((Bureaucrats are not elected………idiots!))
  
  You belittle your argument, and lower your standards, by calling people names. Indirectly, yes bureaucrats are elected. Not by the people, like you and I, but hired by the politicians that you and I put into office.
  
  If you elect a big government progressive, no matter their political party, then you will get more bureaucrats and more red tape. If you elect fiscally conservative and/or small government libertarians, then you get less bureaucrats, more freedom, and less red tape.
  
  So now do you see why it is that your idea that “bureaucrats are not elected” is wrong?
  
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- mastice
  Posted on March 20, 2013 at 12:52pm
  @Calm Voice of Reason
  
  I will give you the credit that you make a good argument. And I will admit that not all of the ACA is a bad idea, just key elements of it. (which is what I am against also) But my point still stands and still trumps the whole “corporate greed” notion.
  
  Why? Because, prior to the ACA, you were not *required* to have insurance. If you didn’t like your insurance then drop it, leave it by the roadside, tell the corporate greedy to take a hike. Now, however, you are *forced* do deal with either the corporations or government red tape. And that is where I have a huge problem with the ACA and it’s mandates.
  
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- Clownzilla
  Posted on March 20, 2013 at 1:08pm
  @Calm Voice Of Reason
  
  “Obama HAS attempted to address this issue, and in 2008 pushed for Comparative Effectiveness Research and was completely demonized by the Right as being anti-business.”
  
  You have a bunch of corrupt politicians that have NO CLUE what is going on to determine what works best for me. These politicians will ask the price and how many young “productive” people will die because of the lack of it it. If it’s expensive and only helps older “unproductive” people then it will be deemed not effective.
  
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- Calm Voice of Reason
  Posted on March 20, 2013 at 1:19pm
  MASTICE: I think we both agree that the mandate is a terrible idea. I would really rather there was some other effective means of reducing the costs of health care that didn’t rip a hole in the Constitution.
  
  Clownzilla: The whole point of comparative effectiveness studies and publishing trial data, etc. is that you do not have to depend on someone else’s judgements about what is effective and what is not.
  
  [alltrials.net]
  
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- Walkabout
  Posted on March 20, 2013 at 1:34pm
  @ Calm Voice of Reason
  
  Keep posting. Soon I’ll be able to peg you on the R scale & S scale. But I know already what I will find.
  
  Voting is better than contracting with a private business all the time? It could be. But a politicians & bureaucracies have to be responsive to voting. Electing Barack Obama is not proof. Barack Obama’s election continues social trends started in 1918. Bureaucracies have a life of their own. Sociologists tell us this. We can see this from study of Bureaucracies past & present.
  
  Of course those Bureaucracies have your best interests in mind. :)
  
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- Walkabout
  Posted on March 20, 2013 at 3:11pm
  Calm Voice of Reason
  “I think we both agree that the mandate is a terrible idea. I would really rather there was some other effective means of reducing the costs of health care that didn’t rip a hole in the Constitution.”
  
  That is as good as George Bush’s ‘I’ve Abandoned Free Market Principles To Save The Free Market System’
  
  “The whole point of comparative effectiveness studies and publishing trial data, etc. is that you do not have to depend on someone else’s judgements about what is effective and what is not.”
  
  Employers or insurance companies can do this also. you can contract with the insurance company or not. If your employer does not have a plan you like a person can get supplemental insurance.
  
  There was not comparative effectiveness studies before Obama Care?
  
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- Calm Voice of Reason
  Posted on March 20, 2013 at 7:05pm
  Walkabout: I don’t know if you can really get an accurate judgement of my political beliefs from the few things I post here, but by all means, go ahead. To address other comments by you:
  One good approach health care costs is to allow people to purchase insurance across state lines. This will require a lot of regulatory reform, but in sum, I don’t believe free market principles would be very much disturbed by a larger pool of choice in terms of service.
  Also, no. Comparative effectiveness is not something that is generally required by the FDA. In most cases, all that is needed for approval are studies which show a given intervention performs better than placebo, rather than the more rational practice of testing a new chemical against the best current treatment. There’s nothing inherently wrong with having a number of options-side effects can vary, and one person can find benefit where another person cannot. But, the most common outcome is that a company will push a new drug with frightening adverse effects that also has a fresh patent to the detriment of the previous drug with fewer side effects that happens to have fallen out of patent, therefore cheaper and likely to be found in a generic version. This is just one of many scenarios that illustrate problems with current publishing regulations. Compounding all of these problems is the fact that this information is also being withheld from your doctor. This is a global issue that affects free market and socialized medicin
  
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publicas
Posted on March 20, 2013 at 11:26am
Screw ‘em. http://www.irs.gov/PUP/newsroom/REG-148500-12%20FR.pdf

Section 5000A(d) and (e), 5000A(d)(2)(A), an individual is exempt for a month for
which an Exchange certifies that the individual is a member of a recognized religious
sect or a division thereof described in section 1402(g)(1) and is an adherent of
established tenets or teachings of that sect or division. Section 1402(g)(1) provides an
exemption from self-employment tax for members of a qualified religious sect or division
thereof.

Use the system aganst itself!

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AvengerK
Posted on March 20, 2013 at 11:26am
The only way it will get repealed is with a GOP congress and President. The media won’t do it’s job in reporting how damaging and poorly crafted this legislation is so the LoFoVo will not understand the damage being done until it’s too late.

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Sargeking
Posted on March 20, 2013 at 11:25am
Obamacare (or more appropriately, the UNAFFORDABLE CARE ACT) can be eventually repealed at a congressional level (and by a Conservative/Libertarian president) or at the very least delayed by the majority of states refusing to accept federal funds for abject insurance exchanges (the Obamatax). The court battles that are on-going will certainly push the Armageddon of “Obamacare” well past 2014 and perhaps including 2016. For that small blessing America can be grateful.

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FaithfulFriend
Posted on March 20, 2013 at 11:21am
Looks like it’s come down to this: Comply or Die.

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- publicas
  Posted on March 20, 2013 at 11:28am
  Resist or Die!
  
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- Jim S
  Posted on March 20, 2013 at 11:30am
  Democracy really sucks when the other side wins…now we have their stupid ideas instead of our stupid ideas ! Whatever law is passed can be repealed, breathe , relax..don’t get your blood pressure up over this..ER is over flowing.
  
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Gonzo
Posted on March 20, 2013 at 11:21am
Yes, it’s a total mess.
Completely off topic but, did anyone see O’Reilly last night? He had two “experts” arguing whether or not the resemblance between Obama and Satan in the miniseries The Bible was intentional. The obvious liberal was complaining that there were no blacks in the series and neither Bill or the other guy disputed her claim. There are black angels, black Sampson and his black mother and blacks in the crowd scenes. I don’t think any of the three of them have even watched the thing and they’re on there debating it. Unbelievable. I was hoping the Blaze might have noticed it as well.

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- AvengerK
  Posted on March 20, 2013 at 11:27am
  LOL…you must be kidding GONZO..Samson was portrayed by a black man. One of the angels that spoke to Abraham was black. It appears liberals will just say “stuff” and hope it sticks.
  
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- 65Mustang
  Posted on March 20, 2013 at 12:05pm
  I noticed it and sent an email to O’Reilly informing him of the black Samson and yes, no one spoke out against the woman’s mistake. My email will never be read by anyone.
  
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- Gonzo
  Posted on March 20, 2013 at 12:09pm
  I am not kidding AK, I woke my wife up yelling at the TV set. LOL
  
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- Gonzo
  Posted on March 20, 2013 at 12:32pm
  65, If you told him ‘Killing Lincoln’ changed your life forever…it might have a chance of being read on air.
  
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- spirited
  Posted on March 20, 2013 at 2:03pm
  Afternoon GONZO,
  
  Noticed /heard / thought
  the same as you noted; and voiced a bit of outrage to the screen as well. –ha!
  
  Figured O’Reilly let it go
  ~>for tonite’s Talking Points Memo.
  
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Cavallo
Posted on March 20, 2013 at 11:21am
You would be surprised at how many people actually don’t do anything online. However, ObamaCare is the worst thing to ever happen to this country. Just wait until the numbers of employers skipping out on employer sponsored healthcare start to increase exponentially. Just wait until it bankrupts the system. They’ll HAVE to start stealing from your bank accounts.. or find creative Bloomberg ways to get it.. like taxing soda 300%, taxing fast food 1500%.. etc etc…

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- jblovesAmerica
  Posted on March 20, 2013 at 11:29am
  ILived In Ohio-Betty Sutton was my Congressional Rep. She signed this bill into effect.
  I hold her responsible for this.
  Where ever you live whoever was your rep. it’s around their neck-FOREVER
  
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nonofmybiznez
Posted on March 20, 2013 at 11:13am
Blame it on Sequester….

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- 83plus
  Posted on March 20, 2013 at 1:36pm
  They won’t allow the Sequester to have a negative affect on Obamacare.
  
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