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Judge’s Surprising Claim on How Teen Gunman Got Away with ‘Killer’ Shirt in Court: I Didn’t See It

Mar. 20, 2013 8:23pm
Judge Says He Didnt See Teen Gunmans Killer Shirt Before Obscene Remark

T.J. Lane unbuttons his shirt during sentencing Tuesday, March 19, 2013, in Chardon, Ohio. Lane, 18, was given three lifetime prison sentences without the possibility of parole for opening fire last year in a high school cafeteria in a rampage that left three students dead and three others wounded. (AP)

An Ohio judge says he didn’t see the word “killer” written on an admitted school shooter’s T-shirt in court Tuesday or he would have ordered him to change clothes.

T.J. Lane, 18, received three life sentences after he pleaded guilty to killing three students at a Chardon, Ohio high school in February 2012. He walked into court and removed a button-down shirt to reveal a white T-shirt with the word scrawled in pen, then added to the display with a brief, obscene statement.

“The hand that pulled the trigger that killed your sons now masturbates to their memory. F–k all of you,” Lane said, flipping his middle finger toward victims’ families.

In a statement after the hearing, Judge David Fuhry said he did not see Lane’s T-shirt, according to USA Today.

“The court was unaware of the shirt. The court did not notice the shirt. Had the court noticed the shirt, the court would have immediately stopped the proceedings, adjourned the court and the court would have ordered the defendant to put on proper attire,” Fuhry said.

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  • BHOHG2G
    Posted on March 21, 2013 at 7:49pm

    Was the COURT asleep?

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  • media-bias-steals-elections
    Posted on March 21, 2013 at 7:18pm

    They ought to make it a law, if a police officer sees you shoot some people, he gets to just take you out? Wait, they did already, its called self defense?

    They should put that Fort Hood guy that shot all them soldiers, and this kid, inside a bunch of truck tires with some gasoline, hand the kid of tube of ky jelly, and say, “any last words before we light this match”?

    Vengence is mine says the Lord, he’s got something way better to top that? You are not going to want to know?

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  • Valkaneer
    Posted on March 21, 2013 at 4:56pm

    That Sheriff behind him looks like he wants to snatch Lane’s head of his shoulders.

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  • Bamagal0007
    Posted on March 21, 2013 at 3:01pm

    BS…plain & simple.

    Vaman…you said post crime prison is useless? Are you nucking futts? What would you do…let them go to be free to do it again? Geeez!

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  • Strajulius
    Posted on March 21, 2013 at 1:50pm

    SERIOUSLY!!! Didn’t see it?

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  • dueingx4
    Posted on March 21, 2013 at 12:54pm

    “The court was unaware of the shirt. The court did not notice the shirt. Had the court noticed the shirt, the court would have immediately stopped the proceedings, adjourned the court and the court would have ordered the defendant to put on proper attire.”

    hmmmm, well THE COURT must be an idiot if THE COURT did not see what everybody else apparently could see. good god, im 42 years old with failing eyes and i can see it! THE COURT needs to get THE COURTS eyes checked.

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  • KingCanon
    Posted on March 21, 2013 at 12:47pm

    Demons!

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  • Perspective
    Posted on March 21, 2013 at 12:30pm

    He talked real big in court but once he gets to prison he’s just going to be another piece of tail for the older inmates. They will pass him around like a cheap bottle of wine.

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  • stotlaat
    Posted on March 21, 2013 at 11:35am

    Gun control is the insistence that we defer to this sort of individual or be punished

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  • matt_c
    Posted on March 21, 2013 at 10:55am

    I don’t think this kid was raised by his parents or conditioned by society to be this way. I think he is simply an evil, sadistic, vindictive person and there’s nothing anyone could have done to change or prevent it. We need to stop blaming the world for people like this existing and begin to accept that some simply are just naturally evil. It’s tough for us to accept, but at some point that’s the only explanation left.

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    • txgrrl
      Posted on March 21, 2013 at 11:11am

      I agree with you. I’m sure its a fine mix of “nature” and “nurture.” An evil person can be egged on by life experiences. Unfortunately, some people have poor coping skills for life’s struggles/challenges.

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    • Nabuquduriuzhur
      Posted on March 21, 2013 at 4:00pm

      No doubt of that.

      Some are conditioned to do evil. Feminism was the “in thing” when I was in high school and taught by teachers. As a result, most of the girls got into drugs, the party scene, etc. And as a result of that, some are dead, most are addicted, most had their kids out of wedlock, the average was 5 STDs per woman in 2000, many committed crimes, kids were born with fetal alcohol syndrome, fetal marijuana syndrome, etc.

      Most of them grew up in the church, had good parents. But they were fed a constant stream of garbage in school.

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  • Walkabout
    Posted on March 21, 2013 at 9:38am

    He is not a gunman. He is a killer.

    He has an attitude that motivated him to kill. He would have done so with a vehicle, poison, pathogen, club, knife, gun, turning a valve, or whatever came to ind or hand.

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  • Walkabout
    Posted on March 21, 2013 at 9:37am

    Lt Joe Kenda who narrates his past cases as a homicide detective on “Homicide Hunter” had a show where a person negligently killed a family of 5. I bring this up, because it shows that people are the weapon and not an object.

    http://marinashealthblog.blogspot.com/2012/12/carbon-monoxide-silent-kille.html

    T.J. Lane was motivated enough that he was not going to be stopped by any gun law.

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    Walkabout  
    • 123456beatriz
      Posted on March 21, 2013 at 11:08am

      For me this piece of GARBAGE teen should have death penalty and save 30.000 $ per year to keep this GARBAGE alive

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    • Rogue
      Posted on March 21, 2013 at 11:43am

      This is the type of person who should be dropped onto a deserted island full of other similar animals, and left to fend for themselves. Let these predators hunt each other for survival. He deserves to fear for his life every waking moment until it is taken from him.

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    • Walkabout
      Posted on March 21, 2013 at 1:15pm

      @ rogue

      That would work.

      I think dropping them in a tropical island paradise would be good too. Those are deceptive. Shelter & food do not seem to be big problems, but it is harder than most people think. There is also more disease even though it is not the normal ones people fall prey to.

      Such an island would be …a … re-useable. And in short order. But it would give some one long enough to think about where they went wrong.

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  • boss_ross
    Posted on March 21, 2013 at 9:37am

    if you plead guilty…why would you appeal? that doesn’t make any rational sense.

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  • heidihoneighbor
    Posted on March 21, 2013 at 9:33am

    MMean while the Army cant prosecute the terrorist that went jihadist on base because he reuses to shave his beard.

    The judicial system is working …. for criminals

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  • vaman
    Posted on March 21, 2013 at 8:52am

    Forgetting about certain people’s juvenile need for revenge and the “equal justice”, as a society we need to concentrate on prevention of such crimes. Punishing someone later is useless in the attempt of stopping a crime in the future. Prison is not a deterrent, as we see from an over populated prison system . Add a undiagnosed physiological disorder and a person who is prone to hostility and that will end up in some kind of devastating event. Parents need to be responsible for these actions. They know something is wrong with their child and do nothing about it. Unfortunately, medical science has not advanced to the point of helping these perpetrators before they lose control. Praying for them will not help. Post crime prison is useless. Without the proper acknowledgement and treatment of child and adult murders, innocent people will continue to die.

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    • Walkabout
      Posted on March 21, 2013 at 9:54am

      Prayer does help.

      It all depends on how you look at prayer. Prayer focuses the mind (or can) like Lou Tice’s affirmations from his “Smart Talk” motivational system. Read up on Lou Tice. A smart pastor can get his congregation to pray and then to act. That is perform charity, etc. So I would ask not to tear down those who are Christian or other religions. I would ask you that after they pray, that you say “Good you prayed that was nice, now what are you going to do about it”. You will get farther.

      I briefly read the linked story, a Blaze article from a year ago. Then I went to the wiki. I remember this story. T.J. Lane shot the new boyfriend of his ex girlfriend.

      Unlike the song by “The Police” sung by lead man Sting called “CAN’T STAND LOSING YOU”, this young man did not commit suicide. He committed murder. That is your proximate cause.

      What could have prevented this is a father who could have told his son “Don’t worry, there are more fish in the sea”. But his father was a violent and had been incarcerate for 1 year in the past for attempted murder.

      http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chardon_High_School_shooting

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    • tozzo
      Posted on March 21, 2013 at 10:23am

      Why don’t you join them , idiot!

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    • Bonnieblue2A
      Posted on March 21, 2013 at 10:32am

      You don’t allow a rabid dog to do further harm and you don’t leave psychopaths who have killed to remain on the streets. There is evil in this world and not all of it can be “treated” away. Sometimes elimination and/or containment are required for the protection of society.

      I suspect the smirk and giggles will disappear as soon as this fresh meat enters the adult population in prison and is repeatedly raped.

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    • AvengerK
      Posted on March 21, 2013 at 12:06pm

      BAAMAN..I believe you meant to say psychological disorder not “physiological disorder”.
      In any case now that you’re corrected, you do realise that there’s a difference between a diagnosed mental condition and sociopathy right?
      This kid’s a sociopath, he’s in full control of his actions and wits today and was then during the assault.
      He belongs in prison for the rest of his life and deserves no pity for his remorseless actions.

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    • birthright
      Posted on March 21, 2013 at 12:16pm

      you can’t hold parents accountable if medical science can’t prevent the events. what are the parents supposed to do? imprison the kid? that would get the parents locked up for child abuse. if you have not dealt with a loved one with a mental illness and with the mental healthcare community, then SHUT UP. you don’t know what you are talking about and should not talk. parents who try to get care for their children with mental disorders get frustration, enormous bills, and “professionals” who make it worse because they don’t know anything about what is going on or what to do about it. THEN, the child turns 18 and you can no longer participate in their care, but you still get blamed for the kids actions. I am eagerly awaiting the parent blame for the 17 and 18 year olds who stole guns, ammo, and a truck from one’s parents; drove to TX and shot themselves after a failed robbery attempt. for the record: the kid broke into a locked room and into a locked gun cabinet. the guns were not just lying around for the taking.

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    • Perspective
      Posted on March 21, 2013 at 12:31pm

      So you don’t think murderers should be imprisoned? What have you been smoking?

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    • Walkabout
      Posted on March 21, 2013 at 2:27pm

      Look on the bright side. Vaman told us what they really think without sarcasm.

      I think they are wrong, but now I have something to go on (unless they were lying).

      I would like to point out that economists have proven that prison terms do work & can prove it quantitatively.

      I would also like top point out that reformers (?) who renamed prisons, penitentiaries, do have a valid point. If you release someone with no means of support after a prison sentence for theft for example, what can you expect but more crime?

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  • huey6367
    Posted on March 21, 2013 at 8:15am

    Have a nice time in prison for the rest of your life. You will soon find out that you are not as tough or as much of a bad a$$ as you think you are. Watch out for broom handles … and Tyree.

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  • kaydeebeau
    Posted on March 21, 2013 at 7:06am

    “We make men without chests and we expect of them virtue and enterprise. We laugh at honor and we are shocked to find traitors in our midst. We castrate and bid the geldings be fruitful. We strip men and women of the certainty that they are created in the image of God, and we are surprised when they act like the beasts of the field.” – C. S. Lewis

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    • AmericanStrega
      Posted on March 21, 2013 at 10:54am

      Very apt quote.

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    • AvengerK
      Posted on March 21, 2013 at 11:38am

      KAY..he’ll probably ingratiate himself to a group in prison, likely a neo-nazi group, as means to get some protection for himself..but he knows he’s toast.

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  • cowboy357
    Posted on March 21, 2013 at 6:08am

    Another nut job coward who committed the crime in a “Gun Free Zone”
    Advertising works but of course violent gaming and movies have no effect.

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  • Kaparth
    Posted on March 21, 2013 at 5:29am

    Unfortunately, we have raised too many kids like this – no respect for life, people or God. This country can only survive if we are a just, honorable and loving people who believe in something outside of themselves. Is he a glimpse into our future? I fear so.

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  • Ghandi was a Republican
    Posted on March 21, 2013 at 3:18am

    So my Grandma can’t have a Good stout AK because if this kid? This kid is an argument for exactly the reason why my Grandma SHOULD have an AK.
    I’d like to put Boxer in a room with this kid.for a few days. That would be very interesting.

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  • Brasil2520
    Posted on March 21, 2013 at 2:06am

    Looks like this kid grew up in the era of Dr. Benjamin Spock – “parents to be more flexible and affectionate” lol tell that crap to my Portuguese father, my father was old school get out of line he had a folded belt waiting. Today touch your kid go to jail, then loose the kid to the state

    Today the nanny state will take care of kids with “affection” and drugs.

    As for Dr. Spock, the person the nanny states follows blindly, his grandson committed suicide.

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    • Walkabout
      Posted on March 21, 2013 at 2:14pm

      Trying to figure out if you are a for real cringe inducing foreign white racist or “false flag” liberal troll is not worth the effort. I have noted that troll or no, you are boring.

      Read up on this case Baiano.

      http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chardon_High_School_shooting

      This adolescent (now adult) deserves capital punishment, but he did not grow up with parents preaching Doctor Spock.

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    • Brasil2520
      Posted on March 21, 2013 at 8:12pm

      WALKABOUT

      “Boring” ! Why so mean ? Whats next mother jokes ?, WALKABOUT don’t hate ! lol

      I never said the parents followed Spock, I said the states did and still do

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  • COFemale
    Posted on March 21, 2013 at 1:15am

    That judge has to be blind not to see that shirt. I think he did not want to give him the attention he wanted and let it pass. This is his story to cover his patooty.

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    • nzkiwi
      Posted on March 21, 2013 at 4:19am

      Possibly, but it seems to me that the defendant was sitting sid on to the judge…

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  • COFemale
    Posted on March 21, 2013 at 1:14am

    Lets see how much he smiles when Bubba comes calling. I bet he’ll be bawling like a little baby. That kid is a narcissistic evil child and deserves everything he gets in prison.

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    • spirited
      Posted on March 21, 2013 at 2:27am

      May the callouses on his palms
      and finger tips (all of them)

      ~>be forever cracked.

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  • desert buckeye
    Posted on March 21, 2013 at 12:17am

    Pure evil!
    I’m sure he’ll make lots of nice friends in the “big house.”

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  • skip666
    Posted on March 21, 2013 at 12:15am

    Don’t know if Ohio still has the death penalty. If they got rid of it, here is the reason to bring it back. Carry the sentence out tomorrow and save their taxpayers a lot of money.

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    • spirited
      Posted on March 21, 2013 at 2:24am

      Yes SKIP666

      –If only.

      Gosh he is awful …..! (head shake , shoulder shrug, head shake)

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