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Disturbing Leaked Video Shows Alleged Mistreatment of Maine Inmate Bound to Chair
The Maine Legislature’s Criminal Justice Committee is reviewing the alleged mistreatment of a Maine Correctional Center inmate last year after video of the incident was leaked to the public. Lawmakers say they are looking into the matter to ensure the behavior displayed by corrections officers in the video is not the everyday norm.
The disturbing video, recorded by one of the corrections officers back in June of 2012, shows an inmate, identified as Paul Schlosser III, bound in a restraint chair being transported to a cell by officers. When they tried to put the inmate’s arms into the restraints to treat a self-inflicted arm injury, he became agitated and spit at one of the officers. Capt. Shawn Welch proceeded to spray Schlosser’s face with pepper spray from a canister intended to be used on multiple people at a distance of 18 to 20 feet.
(Press Herald video)
After being sprayed, Schlosser repeatedly complained that he couldn’t breath and asked officers not to restrain his head or put their hands on his eyes. Officers later placed a spit mask on his face, which he begged them to take off because it caused the mace to become trapped against his face.
“When will you pull this off?” he asks officers in the video. “I can’t breath through it, I can’t breath good.”
“If you’re talking you’re breathing,” an officer replies.
“I’m not breathing well,” Schlosser said. “Can you just please take the face mask off.”
Schlosser, who reportedly suffers from bipolar disorder and depression and was on several medications at the time, was in distress for 24 minutes before he was allowed to wash his face, the Press Herald reports.
Watch the video of the incident via the Press Herald below (Warning! Very graphic content and language):
A previous investigator’s report concluded that Capt. Welch’s use of force was indeed excessive and motivated partly by personal animosity, according to the Press Herald.
Further, Scott Burnheimer, the superintendent of the medium and minimum-security prison, was initially going to fire Welch for his actions, however, the decision was overturned by Corrections Commissioner Joseph Ponte. Welch received a 30-day suspension.
Ponte said Welch’s behavior was troubling, but he decided, based on Welch’s clean history, that a suspension was appropriate rather than termination.
Main Sen. Stan Gerzofsky (D-Brunswick), chairman of the Criminal Justice and Public Safety Committee, told the Portland Press Herald that committee members are currently reviewing the incident.
“My initial reaction was how appalled I was. I was really mad,” Gerzofsky said. “I’ve had issues with the use of the (restraint) chair over the years.”
Meanwhile, the Department of Corrections in the state has assigned an investigator to figure out how the video of the incident got leaked.
Associate Commissioner Jody Breton said the investigation was not initiated because the video showed the Department of Corrections in a negative light, but rather because the inmates personal information was released.
The full video is more than two hours long. To see the entire uncut video, click here.
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bikerdogred1
Posted on March 21, 2013 at 8:49pmDisturbing,the reason this man is in jail is disturbing he is a nut case just like a lot of inmates and if they have to spray them then let them do it,maybe you would like to help and take one of these nut jobs home with you and maybe you can kill him with kindness before he kills you from being nuts.
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skunkbear
Posted on March 21, 2013 at 8:59pmBIKERDOGRED1, “…kill him with kindness before he kills you from being nuts.”
Yes, of course, we must kill the mentally disturbed. But only after we torture them first.
Great morals you have there, Herr Bikerdog…
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Micmac
Posted on March 21, 2013 at 9:22pmA de facto Fabian.
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garbagecanlogic
Posted on March 21, 2013 at 9:49pmYour remarks are disturbing in nature. I’ve dealt with these folks. The way this idiotic welch is not the way you handle someone who is bi-polar, suffering from depression and other mental health issuess. Welch is a control freak and just had to keep egging the inmate on. That’s why he was fired and should have remained fired………..and hopefully the Maine senate will refire him.
Praise Be To Obama. Psalm 109:8
The U.N. Out Of The U.S.
The U.S. Out Of The U.N.
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welovetheUSA
Posted on March 21, 2013 at 10:34pmHumane treatment is all that is required. Most guards are sadist and would kill and torture if they could get away with it. Because you are serving time it does not mean you get tortured like this. There are far better ways to handle situations, the man is strapped down with 5 guards and they are spraying him at will…sorry its disgusting.
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symphonic
Posted on March 21, 2013 at 10:54pmHe kept yelling loudly that he could not breeze, but anyone that can keep yelling loudly is obviously able to breathe. The man must be certifiably insane, having panic attacks.
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muffythetuffy
Posted on March 21, 2013 at 11:31pmTHIS PERSON IS MENTALLY SICK AND SHOULD BE IN A MENTAL HOSPITAL…
Oh, but Democrats shut down all the mental hospitals in American back in the 1960s. Democrats found closet homosexual judges who agreed that it was wrong to keep sick people in hospitals so they were all released into the public. Now a generation later we don’t have mental hospitals and people like this guy get warehoused into prisons by the Democrats. Those guards are not trained psychiatric nurses or doctors. It would be better for America if all the Democrats were in prison and these sick people were out.
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Miami
Posted on March 22, 2013 at 2:21amI don’t see any abuse
I can’t breath? Take your hands off my eyes I can’t breath?
I can’t breath through the mask? Yet the guy never shut up and he was trying to make himself throw up. You got my word captain, it won’t happen again, all right I F’d up and yet he won’t sit still.
I can’t believe the captain’s patients
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Miami
Posted on March 22, 2013 at 2:25amwelovetheUSA
Did you watch the video?
The guards could NOT have behaved better.
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Obama_In_PeePee_By_Zee_Arteeeest_Beck
Posted on March 22, 2013 at 4:56amWow! There’s some serious “slave mentality” from some TheBlaze posters here.
So-o-o-o, when they come for YOU (that’s right, they will INVENT any law to come after you), the question will still be — How’s that whole Police-(standing army)-Department thingy working out for everyone? America’s Founders lived it, greatly feared it, and warned us of it. Hope you like a little pepper with your beatdown.
“LAPD Police-thugs Bravely Subdue Dangerous TV News Camera”
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OkvNrtk6GJ0
Past time to put an end to the government thugs and disband the police “standing army” departments (because they’re here for a reason … a very bad reason):
“America: Freedom To Fascism”
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uNNeVu8wUak
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DonaldH
Posted on March 22, 2013 at 5:33amIt’s a white guy the cops are abusing,,, so who cares!! now if it were someone like Rodning King all hyped up on drugs and booze than by gawd someone needs to call in jackson, sharpton, the black panthers and of course the Obama and Holder team of BLACK JUSTICE aka BLACK POWER also known as- Black Theology
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jlightning1
Posted on March 22, 2013 at 7:26amWhat a crybaby! His mommy probably fell for his fake crying and coughing tantrums ..That’s why he is such a dick now… I cant breath What a bunch of bullcrap.. The cops showed great patience with this a*$hole..
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naughtycal
Posted on March 22, 2013 at 7:32amSpare the rod and you teach criminals nothing. And for all you a-holes defending the criminal because someone claims he’s mebtally ill’ Here’s a news flash they claim everyone is mentally ill is some form or another. It’s the reason we have some many children on some form of mood altering drugs. When most just need their parents or parent to take the time and beat their behinds when they get out line.
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Mil-Dot
Posted on March 22, 2013 at 7:37amSkunkbear,
This man represents millions of verminous miscreant animals roaming America today preying on our sons, daughters, and others. They are worthless pieces of crap. I don’t give a rat’s ass about them. They do nothing but consume our tax dollars, hurt innocents and ruin society. I too believe that those beyond help should be euthanized.
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CABERNETQHS
Posted on March 22, 2013 at 8:57amUnless you have worked with out of control criminals, killers etc. please don’t judge harshly those who do. Just about everyone is bi-polar these days…was once called manic depressive. This thug most likely did not end up restrained because he was complying with the rules. He was spitting and attempting to assault the officers. There are consequences for your actions. Sometimes it’s pepper spray…Try harder next time to play nice. Tough love.
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kenboo1
Posted on March 22, 2013 at 9:06amI agree with Biker and others… Why was he in the chair in the first place??? Because he is unpredictable… The police (guards) acted with greater restraint than I would have… I am not a fan of police by any stretch…
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WarMunger_Al
Posted on March 22, 2013 at 9:25amthey pepper sprayed him out of retaliation and malice. They used industrial sized pepper spray, not the normal type. America has the highest incarceration rate in the world. Land of the free….
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PeteOH
Posted on March 22, 2013 at 9:42amZERO threat.. Way excessive! At the point of spraying, he was 100 subdued. This is third world!
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mollysrock
Posted on March 22, 2013 at 10:36amI have been in corrections for over 10 years as an officer. The tools being used help gain compliance with the least amount of harm to both prisoner and staff. Every department has a use of force policy set by elected government officials they must operate within. Bottom line if the action is within the limit leave the capt alone, if u dont like it change the law by voting! But be aware that removing these tools will lead to employees being injured at a much higher rate and your state will see much high cost to house prisoners. Its easy to monday morning quarterback decisions people have to make in the heat of the moment, when u dont have do it!
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apexmoon
Posted on March 22, 2013 at 11:01am“When most just need their parents or parent to take the time and beat their behinds when they get out line.”
Because violence is the best way to teach someone that violence is wrong?
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ltb
Posted on March 22, 2013 at 11:07amThis is a microcosm of how corrupt people with power treat people who are powerless and IS WHY YOU DON’T WANT OBAMA TAKING AWAY YOUR GUNS.
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Secret Squirrel
Posted on March 22, 2013 at 12:33pmWe don’t hire guards to torture people.
Cops are not judges.
Cops are not juries.
Their action is illegal.
I thought cops were held to a higher standard.
I guess Officer Harless (Canton’s poster boy) is now a prison guard.
Someday, this could be you.
You took a picture of your son holding a gun,
or owned a firearm without a bill of sale, or wrote an e-mail criticizing the central committee.
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Walkabout
Posted on March 22, 2013 at 1:14pmThe only way to be neutral and/or logical about this is to put yourself in the shoes of Paul Schlosser III immediately family and in the shoes of a Correctional officer.
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skunkbear
Posted on March 22, 2013 at 6:01pmMIL-DOT,”Skunkbear,
“This man represents millions of verminous miscreant animals roaming America today preying on our sons, daughters, and others. They are worthless pieces of crap. I don’t give a rat’s ass about them. They do nothing but consume our tax dollars, hurt innocents and ruin society. ”
No one is arguing that he should not be in prison after due process has put him there. But once he is in then he must be treated humanely as befits a civilized society. He was already restrained so the peeper spray was nothing less than malice torture.
“I too believe that those beyond help should be euthanized”.
And who exactly gets to be the one to decide who is or is not beyond help? You? Or maybe your ideological twin Herr Eichmann?
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Pigpen
Posted on March 23, 2013 at 9:29amNo, SKUNKBEAR, you are wrong and BIKERDOGRED1 is right. This MANIAC deserves to be restrained. And when he spits, he’s sprayed. That simple. There is no torture going on here. And no head injury, means no “mental illness”. The dude in the chair is NOT ill, he is just another self-absorbed BULLSH!1 artist who is mad that the rest of us won’t put up with his abusive behavior like his family did when he was a kid. If you release this “mental illness” sufferer back into the wild …er…uh… back onto the street, he will somehow “get it together” enough to find drugs, alcohol, a little hanky panky, and then somehow find a homeless shelter to eat and wash up after it all and then back to do it all over again. So no, these “poor lost souls” are VERY high functioning when they wish to be. So sorry, no tears here today.
PS Hey theBlaze, stop trying to turn our distrust of government into a “socially constructive” prison reform movement. Your druggie friends from college are just going to have to serve their time. Sorry! No support here for jailbirds!
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SERE
Posted on March 24, 2013 at 7:52amThis is torture. Using techniques like waterboarding, this is far, far worse (or better if your goal is to completely break someone into dog like obedience).
When waterboarding someone, we make them believe they are drowing for about 30 seconds…with water, not pepper spray, and it is a brutal form of interrogation. If we could use pepper spray and hold them for 24 minutes with the peper spray buring their mouths and throats…well damn, we would be right of their with the vietnemese and bamboo under the fingernails.
What I would like to do is have these cops in an interrogation room for a day, I would like to put them on the other end of this, the captain specifically would end of with that big can of pepper spray blocking access to his ********* while serving 10 years in prison.
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mecanic
Posted on March 24, 2013 at 11:45am“Meanwhile, the Department of Corrections in the state has assigned an investigator to figure out how the video of the incident got leaked.” that’s what there mad about, that it got out to the public. this happens all the time.
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BlesstheJews
Posted on March 21, 2013 at 8:48pmI’ve worked in corrections for 14 years. This is 15 minutes of a 1-2 hour episode, or maybe more. I hate to say it, but there are some people who just have to be maced, tazed or knocked upside the head. I can honestly say I never saw anything like this in the facility I work in (But I cant say it never happped), I’m a civilain employee, and although I dont see everything, I see enough. And there are times I cant help but wonder how officers do not beyotch slap some of these D-Bags that just dont quit with their nonsense.
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Just_Us2
Posted on March 21, 2013 at 11:03pmRestrained yes. Spit guard yes. Maced because you are pissed off…no. Clearly your comments indicate that are part of the problem. Did you graduate high school? Do you have any idea how to treat another human being? Are you that screwed up? You restrain, you use force when necessary…you don’t use force to get your rocks off…..you’re sick and I can only wish that what you have done in spite and anger comes back on you ten fold. You are why no one respects law enforcement.
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DADDYWOREAWHITEHAT
Posted on March 21, 2013 at 11:16pm@blessthejews
So when you have somebody strapped into a chair defenseless anything goes?
That’s not a precedent I want to see.
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Conkuur
Posted on March 22, 2013 at 8:50amI could think of a million other things they could have done more humanely. 1. Put him in a holding cell until he calmed down for one.It is amazing how calm people get when they get hungry. 2 They could have just left him in restraints until he was calm. etc..There is a good ole boy network in most prisons and jails. If you don’t think inmates are just as taunted by guards as inmates are to guards you live in a fantasy world.This guy was restrained no need for pepper spray this was a clear power play by the Capt to say I hold your life in my hands so you better remember that.Definitely if the guy was black he would get the help and sympathy from outside but since he is white it will be forgotten by tomorrow.
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Joel0466
Posted on March 22, 2013 at 9:08amI worked at the Maine State prison @ the supermax & every guard is pepper sprayed & has been strapped down in that chair, just as this guy was, as part of his or her training. It is done that way so each officer knows what that feels like. It really sucks & it is suppose to suck. You see if you give a inmate a glass of milk & a cookie & a pat on the head he doesn’t change his behavior. If he was in that chair he earned it. It’s great to think if we just smile & treat everyone just swell then golly gee everyone will treat us well in return but It’s not reality. Some people just have bad wiring. You bleeding heart liberals need to understand that If you worked there you would have a different perspective & if you didn’t have a come to Jesus moment & change your world view you wouldn’t last very long.
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CLEttinger
Posted on March 22, 2013 at 9:15amPeople, that was nothing, he got maced for spitting at officers. Action – reaction. These criminals need to know prison isn’t their summer home. Why are people even talking about this? If he cooperated, he would have been fine. He didn’t he got taught a lesson. He didn’t appear to be in any real danger, he was talking the whole time, there for he could breathe adequately. Criminals can’t be treated with kid gloves, if you accept their abuse with kindness expect even more abuse.
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WarMunger_Al
Posted on March 22, 2013 at 9:29amJoel-
they only people that would choose to work in a prison are mentally unstable jackboots that enjoy asserting power over others. AKA psychopaths. Being around evil people everyday just makes the guards evil souls more so.
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apexmoon
Posted on March 22, 2013 at 11:08am“You see if you give a inmate a glass of milk & a cookie & a pat on the head he doesn’t change his behavior. If he was in that chair he earned it. It’s great to think if we just smile & treat everyone just swell then golly gee everyone will treat us well in return but It’s not reality. ”
Why does it have to be one extreme or the other. Glass of milk on one side and macing a restrained inmate on the other? Just because someone don’t agree with the tactics in this video doesn’t make them a “bleeding heart liberal” that just wants to “pat” inmates “on the head”. So the guy got spit on, big deal, throw him in a holding cell and call it a day.
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Mil-Dot
Posted on March 22, 2013 at 11:11amHere I got an idea. If you don’t want others to control your behavior, then don’t screw up and go to prison in the first place. It is PUNISHMENT people, not a fricking picnic. How many innocent people did that cretin hurt during his life before he ended up in prison? I’ll bet it was quite a few. (pfftt……..spit on ground) F him.
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Cain13
Posted on March 22, 2013 at 11:58am@Just- You clearly dont understand the point of a prison or the mindset of an inmate (which might be a good thing). Watch the full video. This guy was already in solitary. He was refusing to be to be compliant. Making demands of the CO’s. Doing exactly what he was told not to do. Spit in a CO’s face. Then continued to resist. All of this is done as a move for power and control. Its like a child pushing a parents limits. If that behavior is not stopped, it escalates. Allowing that type of behavior to continue is a form of enabling. Spraying him wasn’t wrong. Leaving him with the spray on his face for so long was not called for. I will give you that. However, if you watch the end of the full video, Mr. Schlosser is very compliant and agreeable. And with no permanent damage.
Side note: Schlosser said he didnt care if they sprayed him. I doubt that he still feels that way.
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anoellak
Posted on March 22, 2013 at 12:00pmI see NOTHING wrong here. Your in prison for a reason. Its not a holiday! Shut up be good and you don’t get maced in the face. I have no sympathy here except for the officers who have to deal with this B.S.
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Walkabout
Posted on March 22, 2013 at 2:48pmConkuur
1. Put him in a holding cell until he calmed down for one. It is amazing how calm people get when they get hungry.
Interesting post. I wonder how long they would have to wait before some lawyer would say they were being cruel. He might not get hungry for 24 hours and in the meantime the wound would fester and someone would sue. But it would more likely be 4 to 16 hours before he became hungry enough to cooperate with the correctional officers & medical staff.
But again as you pointed out he is white.
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Proverbs17-12NLT
Posted on March 21, 2013 at 8:40pmIt’s time to turn the cameras off
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skunkbear
Posted on March 21, 2013 at 9:05pmYes, let The State operate in secrecy. For democracy, for freedom, and for the amerikan way. And let us not also forget for the Christian way too PROVERBS…
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garbagecanlogic
Posted on March 21, 2013 at 9:53pm17-12lt: They are mandatory for the officer’s protection against law suits. Do some research instead of just running off at the mouth!
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The U.S. Out Of The U.N.
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Just_Us2
Posted on March 21, 2013 at 11:04pmYou are one sick sadistic pervert.
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ReallySeriouslyNoWay
Posted on March 22, 2013 at 8:10amMan brutalized, Maine’s largest concern is how the video got into the public’s hands. Can you say tone deaf????
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TJexcite
Posted on March 21, 2013 at 8:39pmAnd now for the Police acted stupidly post….
The police recorded this for use in the trial on the person they where spraying. They would not recorded and do something that was not approve by the police officials and its hundreds of its lawyers. They would not recorded something that could be used against them in a court of law it is to prevent lawsuits against them when they have the video in one hand, the law and the standard operation handbook in the other. If after they find that this was not SOP they change the SOP but it is not retroactive so that the officers involved are charged.
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proliance
Posted on March 21, 2013 at 9:06pmInmate is spitting? You put the spit mask on him. Its that simple. Once an inmate is in the restraint chair he is helpless and you have to be very careful. Hurting a defenseless person is just wrong. If you can’t control your emotions you can’t be in a position of care, custody and control of a person’s entire life.
I was corrections officer for 2 years and worked in administration for 2 more. You don’t become a captain and not know the rules. If this were a rookie officer I might understand. A captain? Let him go or bust him down to CO1.
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skunkbear
Posted on March 21, 2013 at 9:24pmPROLIANCE, You have my respect. If only all of The State’s uniformed punks possessed your understanding we could have a nation worthy of being a shining light onto the world.
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DADDYWOREAWHITEHAT
Posted on March 21, 2013 at 10:35pmWell you have not been to a braoria county TX facility.
Those guys learn pretty quick not to pull that Shiite in jail there. Sorry but I think a lot of the nation should learn something from brazoria county.
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Conkuur
Posted on March 22, 2013 at 9:24am@Proliance Exactly Right! The guy was restrained! You use pepper spray only to distract a person so you can restrain them.No need for pepper spray (especially at close range like he was) on a restrained helpless individual. They should have restrained him put his spit cover on and let him sit until he became compliant.I have seen this type of individual he can be a real pain in the ass. What you do is answer his question and ignore the nagging. You are not there for behavior modification.If you have thin skin maybe pick another profession.When emotions get involved you put the whole institution at risk.
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dave88
Posted on March 21, 2013 at 8:39pmIf he doesn’t like their service, perhaps he won’t invite himself back next time.
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skunkbear
Posted on March 21, 2013 at 8:53pmSo a green light should be given on torturing prisoners? Did the judge who sentenced him to his prison term also decree that his punishment should include whatever torture the guards wish to dole out?
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RobbieTLHughie
Posted on March 21, 2013 at 9:39pmOh, I like this. Let’s give our police and government leave to torture and/or kill anyone who breaks the law. Did your son steal a candy bar from Walgreens? Chop off three of his fingers, that seems fair punishment. Ah, you ran a red light — no fines for you, you just lose your driving foot, fair enough.
Any other medieval draconian ideas you’d like to provide us with so the state can continue to torture it’s citizens?
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TheHungerArtist
Posted on March 21, 2013 at 8:35pmThere is a lot that we don’t know about what preceded the incident and why it was important to subdue the prisoner for the treatment of his injury. I don’t know why it was necessary to videotape this and to give it to the media. This type of incident happens everyday in prisons and hospitals and it is perfectly acceptable to use chemical restraints like thorazine to achieve the same ends. The methods in the video where effective and will not have unwanted side effects other than to teach the kid some humility. Pepper spray is natural and probably organic while thorazine is not. When you’re being wheeled into a cage in full restraints it’s probably time to swallow a little bit of that pride, not spitting it in a cop’s face. You cried like a chump.
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TJexcite
Posted on March 21, 2013 at 8:44pmThey video tape it to prevent lawsuits of police brutality and to show the court what the accused did to warrant the spray.
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garbagecanlogic
Posted on March 21, 2013 at 9:51pmIt is ignorant people like you who make things difficult. It is video taped for the officer’s protection against lawsuits. Hopefully someoe files one against welch. Believe me, the guy probably had some consequences for his actions – however, not from some control freak like welch.
Praise Be To Obama. Psalm 109:8
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The U.S. Out Of The U.N.
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Dr Vel
Posted on March 22, 2013 at 12:30am“Capt. Shawn Welch proceeded to spray Schlosser’s face with pepper spray from a canister intended to be used on multiple people at a distance of 18 to 20 feet”
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pepper_spray
“The US Army concluded, in a 1993 Aberdeen Proving Ground study, that pepper spray could cause “[m]utagenic effects, carcinogenic effects, sensitization, cardiovascular and pulmonary toxicity, neurotoxicity, as well as possible human fatalities. There is a risk in using this product on a large and varied population”.[10] However, the pepper spray was widely approved in the US despite the reservations of the US military scientists after it passed FBI tests in 1991. As of 1999, it was in use by more than 2,000 public safety agencies.[11]
The head of the FBI’s Less-Than-Lethal Weapons Program at the time of the 1991 study, Special Agent Thomas W. W. Ward, was fired by the FBI and was sentenced to two months in prison for receiving payments from a peppergas manufacturer while conducting and authoring the FBI study that eventually approved pepper spray for FBI use”
Spraying this quantity then confining it to his face with a mask? Every one of you defending this belong in hell. Keep it up you will get there no problem.
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brkt99
Posted on March 21, 2013 at 8:34pmYou people have never dealt with this type of person i guess. That was not excessive. It may not have been the best course of action, but it was not excessive. That idiot should not have spit on that officer. The mace is not going to kill him, or give him a disease. That spit can possibly do both. That kid is nothing more than the product of a sever lack of discipline. His parents should have busted his tail more as a kid.
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skunkbear
Posted on March 21, 2013 at 9:19pmYes, mental illness is best treated with a good **** whooping. And if we throw a virgin into a volcano we will have a good crop next season.
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garbagecanlogic
Posted on March 21, 2013 at 9:45pm99: You have no idea of what you are even talking about. In the first place, it is NOT mace. It is pepper spray. I do not condone the behavior of the prisoner, however, welch should have been fired as the warden did and left fired. I hope the senate investigation does just that. It is people like this who wonder why prisoners come looking for them afterward. Welch just keeps pouring it on and on. Put him in the chair and see how he behaves. I’ve had to have pepper spray applied to my face for training, it is not something to take easy. Plus, people HAVE died from it. Welch would make a good dummycrat in that he is a control freak.
Praise Be To Obama. Psalm 109:8
The U.N. Out Of The U.S.
The U.S. Out Of The U.N.
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Just_Us2
Posted on March 21, 2013 at 11:09pmDo you pepper spray your kids?
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HOLYCOWBATMAN
Posted on March 22, 2013 at 12:20am@skunkbear
Thank you.
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WarMunger_Al
Posted on March 22, 2013 at 9:33ammace can kill you. It has. Then they trapped it via the mask. I hope you enjoy your dose of mace when they haul you off to camp.
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neiman1
Posted on March 21, 2013 at 8:31pmA thug with a badge is still just a thug
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skunkbear
Posted on March 21, 2013 at 9:35pmActually a thug with a badge is worse than just a thug. That badge is a get- out- of-jail-free card. The common variety thug is no different than the badged thug except that the latter cannot only get away with the brutal behavior, he/she will be lauded for the abuse by the very same people being abused by him/her.
State worship is itself a mental disease.
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termyt
Posted on March 22, 2013 at 8:30amA thug with a badge is a thug who doesn’t pay for his crimes.
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thegreatcarnac
Posted on March 21, 2013 at 8:27pmDon’t spit on people……fool.
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skunkbear
Posted on March 21, 2013 at 9:08pmDon’t treat people worse than animals.
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let us prey
Posted on March 21, 2013 at 8:23pmI wonder if this is how they treated the illegals befor they released them onto the public last week?
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barber2
Posted on March 21, 2013 at 8:22pmFeel sorry for the mentally ill who wander our streets untreated and for the police who are expected to care for them . Am sure a bi-polar male can be very powerful when in a manic state. This guy was hurting himself ! ? Very sad situation. This is just another case , like gun violence, where the issue of mental health gets completely ignored . The sane and law abiding get punished because of the actions of the mentally troubled or of law breakers.
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mantis
Posted on March 21, 2013 at 8:19pmNo big deal IMHO.He shouldn’t have spit in the CO’s face.I bet he won’t do it again.He is lucky he didn’t get his ass handed to him.It’s not fatal.I have had this done to me before.(As part of training).It in nothing more than very uncomfortably.He should live
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Eastinfection
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skunkbear
Posted on March 21, 2013 at 8:46pmSo a man with serious mental disorders should be tortured? He was distraught and bound. Tell me if you, a sane person in the same position, would not also feel the need to lash out at your tormentors by any means available. Maybe you are indeed a very noble person. One who would never do such a thing. But can you not at least see the humanity of one of your “lesser” human beings?
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Unreconstructed
Posted on March 21, 2013 at 8:56pmSpoken like a true power-hungry egomaniac with a badge.
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Just_Us2
Posted on March 21, 2013 at 11:13pmMantis…do you pepper spray your kids? You sound like a criminal. Were you beaten as a kid and now its time for some payback? Anger issues? You look at these criminals with disgust and contempt…but you are no better. You belong locked up with them…not loose on society.
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Bluedog78
Posted on March 22, 2013 at 1:28am@just, my kids have sprayed themselves a couple of times when my wife left her pepperspray on the nightstand, they lived. Would you rather have seen the CO’s club the guy into compliance like they did in the good old days? Pepperspray leaves no permanent injury and if very effective. The only issue I see here is he got hosed from very close from the larger bottle, the velocity of the spray could have injured his eyes but is sounds like that didn’t happen. My guess is next time he’ll be better behaved.
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let us prey
Posted on March 21, 2013 at 8:19pmGet ready folks, this is how they will treat the 2nd amendment supporters when they have the chance.
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termyt
Posted on March 21, 2013 at 8:14pm“Meanwhile, the Department of Corrections in the state has assigned an investigator to figure out how the video of the incident got leaked.”
Why do I have the sinking feeling of all the promised investigations made by public figures this will be the one that gets followed up on? Heaven forbid we remember the incarcerated are people, too.
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skunkbear
Posted on March 21, 2013 at 9:42pmTERMYT, ” Heaven forbid we remember the incarcerated are people, too.”
What kinda sicko are you?! Jesus would not agree!
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termyt
Posted on March 22, 2013 at 8:39amYeah, I know. It’s a disease to think that the 8th Amendment is as important as the first. I mean, if you piss off a guard, why wouldn’t you get beat. If you are hard to control, why not apply EVERY method of regain control instead of stopping when control is regained?
This is another failing of our mental health community. If you are dangerously ill, we can’t put you away until you do something. More and more often now, that “something” is disastrous. Most mentally ill will run afoul of the law eventually, so we toss them in jail and beat them because they don’t, and aren’t able to, fall in line.
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mantis
Posted on March 21, 2013 at 8:13pmNo big deal IMHO.He shouldn’t have spit in the Co’s face.He is lucky he didn’t get his Ass handed to him.The cems that they spared in his face is not fatal.I have had it done to myself before.You get over in.It is nothing more than very uncomfortable.
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Unreconstructed
Posted on March 21, 2013 at 8:58pmI’m sure you weren’t strapped down and surrounded by multiple hostiles. I hope the captain gets dealt a big dose of karma one day.
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P4cooler
Posted on March 21, 2013 at 8:12pmWater-boarding would have been much more humane!
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13th Imam
Posted on March 21, 2013 at 8:12pmUh, leads me to think that spitting on a crowd of officers is not a bright idea. Although, that kid wearing that Killer t-shirt the other day should have been eliminated, on the spot.
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The-Monk
Posted on March 21, 2013 at 8:11pmWhat is the “Dirigo” sign on the back wall? TIA
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let us prey
Posted on March 21, 2013 at 8:21pmMonk
I looked it up its the seal of Maine. A resting moose on the grass and a dude with a scythe. What kind of message is that. Lol
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The-Monk
Posted on March 21, 2013 at 8:39pmHi Let us prey,
Thanks for looking that up. BTW… is that prey or pray? LOL
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let us prey
Posted on March 21, 2013 at 9:00pmLet Us Prey.
This song is from the album Sin After Sin (1977). Judas Priest
That was some decent metal for 77. Lol, Sin after Sin……like everything in the news and out of
DeeCee( ! )
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let us prey
Posted on March 21, 2013 at 9:03pmLol, maybe a bit of both.
Nice cool weather in TPA. At least something is good.
Right?
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AquamanSucks
Posted on March 21, 2013 at 9:18pmHey Monk
Have a friend that’s post are very slow. Any idea how long before things get better??
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let us prey
Posted on March 21, 2013 at 9:37pmIt’s getting faster aqua man.
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LBJDIDIT1963
Posted on March 21, 2013 at 8:11pmAlso I think that Officer was promoted to DHS! And given thousands of Hollow Point Bullets!
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thegreatcarnac
Posted on March 21, 2013 at 8:11pmDon’t spit on people. On the other end…..a little too much spray.
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Stelex
Posted on March 21, 2013 at 8:10pmGive the average man power and he’ll use it ……. give the average man absolute power and he’ll use it. All men and women are Average. So lets keep building a huge government. Lets keep asking these average people to make laws and control our lives. There are no…….NO perfect humans, stop expecting any human to solve our problems. Big Gov = Big Trouble……….seen enough yet.
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LBJDIDIT1963
Posted on March 21, 2013 at 8:09pmThis is what happens when Cops turn Democrat!
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resme
Posted on March 21, 2013 at 8:08pmShocked? Not me. Cops do this stuff on a daily basis.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=duD3d4kBbOA
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barber2
Posted on March 21, 2013 at 8:16pmand you know from personal experience ? on a daily basis ?
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resme
Posted on March 21, 2013 at 8:47pmYes, I do. Got a problem?
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Eastinfection
Posted on March 21, 2013 at 9:17pmBARBER & RESME….
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ggqqH5wvXCs
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AquamanSucks
Posted on March 21, 2013 at 9:26pmEast
LOL
You made aquaman wet his pants!!!!
Oh wait I’m Aquaman my pants are always wet.
Still it was very funny!
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AlcoholicMB
Posted on March 21, 2013 at 8:07pmI swear, sometimes administrators aren’t real people. They’re robots. If a normal person watches that video, they immediately call the “Captain” into their office and FIRE THEM. You don’t do this to another human being, even if they spit at you. Wow, he spit, so lets spray him point blank with crowd control spray? Fire him, and charge him with assault.
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AquamanSucks
Posted on March 21, 2013 at 8:06pmI surely hope that they gave him some salt with his pepper.
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DORA_GASBAG
Posted on March 21, 2013 at 8:18pmI could use some salt and a lick o’ lime.
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AquamanSucks
Posted on March 21, 2013 at 8:22pmLOL
I once was blind but now can see.
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AquamanSucks
Posted on March 21, 2013 at 8:26pmDora
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H4BBQMjbX3c
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DORA_GASBAG
Posted on March 21, 2013 at 8:34pmI’m not following you Aqua.
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AquamanSucks
Posted on March 21, 2013 at 8:36pmYes you are (:
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AquamanSucks
Posted on March 21, 2013 at 8:38pmDora
Certainly a broad like you knows.
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Eastinfection
Posted on March 21, 2013 at 8:39pmBlind?
lol…
http://www.comedycentral.com/video-clips/7nnosh/chappelle-s-show-frontline—clayton-bigsby
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AquamanSucks
Posted on March 21, 2013 at 8:45pmEast
OMG PLEASE tell me it’s not true!!!!
It’s ok I’m ready.
Go ahead and tell me the truth I can take it.
Am I white??????
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barber2
Posted on March 21, 2013 at 8:49pmAnd I wonder who AQUAMAN was calling himself yesterday . Am sure it was some equally fine name. I think Beck has been Occupied by the Lefty anarchists. The comments sound like the mouth excrement of the those who poop on cars. Real classy bunch.
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AquamanSucks
Posted on March 21, 2013 at 8:56pmBarber2
Oh contraire my friend.
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Eastinfection
Posted on March 21, 2013 at 9:01pmBARBER…
i know who AQUA used to be.
Not a lefty Troll at all.
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DR.SIGMUND-P-FLOYD
Posted on March 21, 2013 at 9:04pmMr. Barber2
Please be polite to my friend Aquaman. He is a little weird but of sound mind.
Besides he is also a super hero.
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