DALLAS (TheBlaze/AP) — Two suspects were dead after an attempted home invasion Wednesday afternoon in north Texas, and police said the pickup truck stolen by a wanted 17-year-old Oklahoma boy was found nearby.
Authorities said that when a woman in the small town of Maypearl noticed someone was trying to open her home’s back door Wednesday afternoon, she looked out the window to find a camouflage-clad male armed with a gun.
She phoned her husband, who was nearby and arrived quickly. Minutes later, following an exchange of gunfire with the homeowner, two male suspects were dead, both apparently from self-inflicted gunshots, according to the Ellis County Sheriff’s Department.
The bodies were taken to the medical examiner’s office in nearby Dallas County for autopsies, and police were initially withholding the identities pending notification of relatives. Now, they’ve been released, adding further curiosity to a patently bizarre story.

This photo provided by the Pottawatomie County Sheriff’s Department shows Kenneth Chaffin. Oklahoma authorities say they’ve issued an alert to national law enforcement to be on the lookout for a 17-year-old boy who left home with guns, up to 2,000 rounds of ammunition and prescription drugs. Credit: AP
Earlier, authorities in Oklahoma had alerted national law enforcement to be on the lookout for Kenneth Chaffin, 17, saying that on Monday he had stolen 17 guns, thousands of rounds of ammunition, prescription drugs and a red 1991 Ford Ranger pickup truck from his parents’ home in Bethel Acres, Okla., about 30 miles southeast of Oklahoma City.
The Daily Mail confirms that Chaffin was one of the men found dead at the scene. Here’s how the outlet describes the incident:
A 17-year-old Oklahoma boy was found dead at the scene of a violent robbery in Texas just two days after he stole his parents’ pickup truck and loaded it up with guns and ammunition.
Police say Kenneth Chaffin and 18-year-old Dillian King attempted to rob a home in North Texas and were found dead on the scene, apparently from self-inflicted gunshot wounds.
The incident happened around noon Wednesday at a rural home near the town of Maypearl, 35 miles southwest of Dallas.
KWTV-TV also confirmed the identities of the young men. And, as the AP notes, Ellis County sheriff’s spokeswoman JoAnn Livingston told The Associated Press that investigators were able to confirm through the license plates on the truck that it was the same vehicle stolen in Oklahoma.
The Ellis County Sheriff’s office said that after the Maypearl homeowner called her husband, he arrived home and spotted the suspects. They say the man yelled at the suspect and then retrieved a gun.
The suspects darted from behind the house and ran toward a field, firing at the home as they fled. The man shot back and is believed to have hit one of the suspects, the sheriff’s office said. The woman called 911.
After deputies arrived, they found one suspect dead in the nearby field. He had been shot several times, but is believed to have died from a self-inflicted gunshot wound, the sheriff’s office said.
The other suspect’s body was found inside the stolen pickup truck, also dead from what appeared to be a self-inflicted gunshot wound, the sheriff’s office said.
Chaffin’s father was dumbfounded by the news.
“Why he left, we don’t have a clue right now. We’ll probably never know, other than you know Kenneth has always bucked my rules. I’m a hardnosed parent. I believe in rules, and all my kids know it,” he said, according to KWTV-TV.
In Oklahoma, Pottawatomie County Undersheriff Travis Palmer said Chaffin was believed to have taken 17 guns, up to 2,000 rounds of ammunition and prescription drugs from the parents’ home. Nine handguns were taken along with six rifles and two shotguns, Palmer said.
Oklahoma authorities had alerted national law enforcement to be on the lookout for Chaffin and to approach the teen with caution.
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Comments (204)
woodyee
Mar. 21, 2013 at 10:05amLight story – I wonder what his hard drive(s) has to say?
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Secret Squirrel
Mar. 21, 2013 at 10:42amPerps dead.
Who says there’s not good news anymore?
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kenboo1
Mar. 21, 2013 at 10:49amextremely sad… thoughts and prayers to the families…
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Yeah_Buddy
Mar. 21, 2013 at 10:59amMaybe its time to lock up the prescription drugs in the gun safe. What ever happened to kids just smoking a joint and taking a nap?
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rangerskippy
Mar. 21, 2013 at 11:27amnow if we could get all of the nations little gutless, Goth, video game playing, freaks, weirdoes, homosexuals, rap music listening, Marylyn Manson loving, turd burgers to just head to Texas and try to break into the house of a real man. As soon as these little freaks run into an armed man, they crap their pants, and kill themselves. I guess the video games and rap music do not teach them courage under fire.
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mrunner
Mar. 21, 2013 at 11:36am@Ranger- Very well put!
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rangerskippy
Mar. 21, 2013 at 11:38amYea Buddy
your comment – “What ever happened to kids just smoking a joint and taking a nap?”
The pot smoking turd burger kids woke up from the nap, had sex with a feminist voted for Obama, and then raised godless, gutless, video game playing, freak music listening, jack asses that have no heart, gumption, or morality.
Instead of pot smokers that lay around, I would prefer to raise kids that work in the garden, play sports, go to church, study hard, and have morality.
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rangerskippy
Mar. 21, 2013 at 12:00pmhttp://www.newsgrio.com/latest-news/33246-kenneth-chaffin-mystery-of-17-year-old-boy-who-stole-his-parents%C2%BF-truck,-fled-and-then-shot-himself-dead-in-botched-attempt-to-rob-texas-home.html
Go to the link above and look at pictures of this freak. Scroll down to the one of him with his buddies, standing there with his gangster wanna be clothes, hat on backwards, and long hair.
His dad claimed he was a disciplinarian with rules. Obviously he did not enforce rules very well. No kid of mine is going to dress or look like that, and live in my house. He might try it once, but when that hat gets knocked off his head, and a size 11.5 work boot gets planted square in his ass, he will decide real quick to dress and act like a young man, and not a punk loser.
America has forgotten how to raise a man. We got 30 year old boys running around playing video games, and acting like little punk kids.
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antiprogressive
Mar. 21, 2013 at 12:01pmAmen Ranger
Why do I feel Columbine written all over their future if the hadn’t killed themselves?
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hatchetjob
Mar. 21, 2013 at 12:14pmRight on RANGERSKIPPY, you are my hero!
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encinom
Mar. 21, 2013 at 1:03pmThanks to god-fearing NRA loving parents two teens had access to an arsenal of weapons.
Max jones
Mar. 21, 2013 at 2:17pmRanger….the Question is: why doesn’t that work, in all cases. If a child grows up and does not see real respect in his parents toward fellow man and family…And most of all have a dedication to
Christ, the parental discipline rings false. I saw it my own life, growing up. Luckily for the Boomer generation, we didn’t have the deep satanic influences we have in our world today….Hows that go??………”There but for the grace of God, Go, I.”
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Chiso
Mar. 21, 2013 at 2:30pmRanger – you’re way out of line and i doubt any of your fans here checked your link.
1 – Gangsta wanna be clothes?? They’re just clothes
2 – Hat on backwards?? a) what’s wrong with that? b) I think it’s a winter pullover hat
3 – Long hair?? He has the same hair as 97% of every American boy in the 80′s
I’m not condoning the kids!
Yes, they were potentially going to be mass murders.
But maybe they weren’t. Maybe they were just going to runaway and hide out in the mountains.
Point is, they didn’t murder anyone, other than, apparently, themselves.
And there is nothing wrong with the way they dressed in that picture – just regular kids.
I have three boys – 13, 11 and 8.
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rangerskippy
Mar. 21, 2013 at 2:30pmEnconom
Your comment – “Thanks to god-fearing NRA loving parents two teens had access to an arsenal of weapons.”
I think you got it wrong.
Thanks to a NRA member with a gun, two criminal teens who stole guns, a vehicle, and drugs were stopped.
A good guy with a gun stopped the bad guy.
We all know that those that do the crimes are generally tied to welfare, rap music, and video games.
Those that stop the crimes are more often times NRA members.
Of all murder in America, what percentage are done by NRA members?
In major cities, up to 70% of murders are gang related. Contrary to Encinom’s thoughts, the Bloods, Cripps, Vice Lords, and MS13 are not joining the NRA.
Police officers, military personnel, church members, hunters, competition shooters…. do join the NRA.
Keep it real Jack Ass
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Chiso
Mar. 21, 2013 at 2:34pm…..neither do I fault the home owners one iota for their actions.
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henryKnox
Mar. 21, 2013 at 2:40pm@Encinom seems to believe that common sense is a characteristic only for mature adults. I beg to differ because I’ve known many teens that exercise good common sense. We don’t have to believe that people are animals and treat them as animals without reasoning capability. The nanny state would like to convince us that we are incapable of thinking for ourselves but it just isn’t true.
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rangerskippy
Mar. 21, 2013 at 2:49pmChiso
Throw a rock into a pack of dogs, and you will know which one you hit when it starts barking.
I grew up in the 80s, and as a teen, I had the haircut and dress of a grown man. We did not walk around looking like punks.
Do yourself a study, and notice that when boys started doing the long hair, rebellion bit, it is the same time we started seeing shootings in schools. We got rid of discipline, got rid of Bible, got rid of dress codes, cranked up the rock music and the MTV and see where we went.
So you have three boys. Does the tail wag the dog, or does the dog wag the tail. Do they look like respectable young men, or do they look like Goth punks? Are they respectable to people that are age 5, and age 70? Do they look more like they could be in the military, or on a MTV video?
The kid in question just stole guns, a truck, drugs, and was in the process of doing armed robbery. He dressed the part.
If you do not like truth, tough luck.
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encinom
Mar. 21, 2013 at 2:54pmI see Ranger Dan is still preaching from his book of lies and racism. What a small, petty God ranger Dan worships. Blame music, clothes, hair style, Ranger Dan will blame everything, but hte fact that the parents had 17 guns and 2,000 rounds in their home.
Ranger Dan disgraces the uniform he wears with his racist views and should be outed as such and drum out of the military, the military is not the place to house bible thumping bigots and ignorant racists.
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Chiso
Mar. 21, 2013 at 3:35pmDude – we share very similar conservative values.
I’m not saying pants around your knees is acceptable.
That’s just stupid AND it looks like sh|t.
But you’re judging someone or their parents by some very common clothing choices that you somehow throw into a gangster category? My dad died when I was 3 and my mom raised us working 2 and 3 jobs and me and my brothers rarely even saw her for long stretches. I grew up running the streets at a young age. For a neighborhood perspective, my high school was/is the oldest high school in Houston – Sam Houston High School. And I would attest that environment has a lot to do with how someone grows up. Hell, I used to wear a baseball cap backwards in the late 80′s early 90′s.
While I agree stereotypes are earned, and many of them are quite accurate, I try to avoid completely generalizing everyone and everything into a specific category. And I’m a million miles from a liberal. But some basic wardrobe nuance used to ascertain judgment on an individual seems juvenile at best.
My boys are badass, tough, mean, funny, sometimes nice and sweet, handsome, God-fearing boys. They’re awesome.
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rangerskippy
Mar. 21, 2013 at 4:57pmENCINOM
Your comment – “Blame music, clothes, hair style, Ranger Dan will blame everything, but the fact that the parents had 17 guns and 2,000 rounds in their home.”
Nope, you got it wrong. The only place I put blame is on the heathen that stole, did drugs, and robbed. He has paid the price for his actions.
I do not blame the clothes, the music, or the parents, and unlike morons like you, I do not blame any object. You want to blame the gun.
What I have done (to your chagrin), is shown you the pattern. NRA Members are not the ones doing the crimes; they are the ones using a legal gun to stop the crimes.
If you look at the patterns, the criminals wear similar clothes (gangster) they listen to the rap music, they play the violent video games. The criminals are never NRA members. You know this, and it makes you mad.
There is a difference between racism and realism. You are not able to debunk the statistics I laid out. When a lib can not win an argument because the stats are not on their side, they always resort to name calling and trying to apply rules of political correctness. Being called racist, sexist, homophobe, and islamaphobe does not bother me.
Speaking of drumming folks out of the military, George Washington saw fit to drum the sodomites out.
Keep it real jack ass
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rangerskippy
Mar. 21, 2013 at 4:59pmChiso
Good for you and your boys. They sound like my kind of people.
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RoDogg
Mar. 21, 2013 at 5:16pmFreedom doesn’t stand a chance against judgmental bigots.
Ranger, I fit all your stereotypes, yet here I am.
The day the right STOPS stereotyping these types of people and the left stops pandering them with lies, is the day they wake up and realize that they are libertarian.
The old-style, bible thumping point of view like Ranger’s will ALWAYS keep the left winning.
Your attitude divides Ranger! Stop!
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rangerskippy
Mar. 21, 2013 at 7:04pmroddog
I will speak the truth, regardless if you like it, or the left likes.
NRA members are not the ones out there doing the crimes.
Those doing the murders have many commonalities. Being an NRA member is not one.
John 15 : 18 If the world hate you, ye know that it hated me before it hated you.
19 If ye were of the world, the world would love his own: but because ye are not of the world, but I have chosen you out of the world, therefore the world hateth you.
20 Remember the word that I said unto you, The servant is not greater than his lord. If they have persecuted me, they will also persecute you; if they have kept my saying, they will keep yours also.
21 But all these things will they do unto you for my name’s sake, because they know not him that sent me.
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ashestoashes
Mar. 21, 2013 at 7:58pm@MAX JONES..Hi Max..I happen to agree with you..As for what Skippy said..that rang a bell with me…A few days ago I had a chance encounter with the dad of a ten year old who was just home for the weekend..It was his son’s birthday and his dad had just bought him one of those war games..He proceeded to tell me that in this game..he could cut off people’s heads..I was stunned..and I told his dad so…Like the good book says..raise up a child in the way he should go..and when he is old..he will not depart from it.. Parents should take a good look at what their children are doing.watching.reading
In a sociology class I took in college..they were discussing the prospects of teaching marriage and family in the schools..I would be all for that if it were done in a Christian manner..True happiness can only be achieved by living in Jesus/Yeshua..We need to be taught to love our families by putting God first .Lucifer’s mission has been to destroy the family unit..We need to get back to it..
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mrspeedwagon
Mar. 21, 2013 at 10:36pmAhhhhaaa Stories like this make me feel Warm N Fuzzy
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peaceangel
Mar. 22, 2013 at 4:58amHow does a person killing themselves suffer from multiple gun shot wounds??? This story didn’t work with Vince Foster’s NOT a suicide.
The key here that no one ever talks about is PRESCRIPTION DRUGS were stolen from the house.
100% of ALL THE SCHOOL SHOOTERS were on or in withdrawal from a “psychotropic” (antidepressant) drug. The full story on each kid can be found in a fairly recent article on Front Sight.
Because teachers, principals and the foster care system have gotten millions of kids “hooked on” these drugs we are having boatloads of kids losing it. They will never admit to or address that because these are all government employees who are responsible for first giving half of America a mental disorder or disease by poisoning everything we eat, drink or breath and because they are prescribing these drugs like candy to our kids and forcing them onto kids in our group homes (foster horror houses) —–they cannot go there, ever. And all these kids are mentally ill if they are on these drugs or even worse in withdrawal from one of these mind destroying drugs and if they pointed to the truth, ie the drugging of a generation then once again—-the government is responsible. Anyone who would read the side effects of these drugs would know not to give them to children. All of them warn of often extreme violent and suicidal probability. They would know it is easy to enter a “psychotic rage” because of these drugs. How stupid are we??? Really, really stupid,
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ChiefGeorge
Mar. 21, 2013 at 10:04amBizarre. They killed themselves and there was no standoff with police? What were they working towards? Whatever it was, it apparently was not worth it to hang around and try to succeed at it or turn a new leaf as it were. Man this country is in desperate trouble like I’ve not seen in my lifetime.
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Silvertruth
Mar. 21, 2013 at 10:43amThey may not have known. We have no idea what influenced them.
I might be called a ‘hardnosed’ parent but you have to temper your rules with love and understanding. It has to be a clear choice for children (especially past the age of ten) to make good decisions and understand your reasons for your rules. They may not get it but it’s trust that will often determine if they follow the rules or not. If you can’t engender trust in your child, you get a child like this one appears to be. Now the parents could have done nothing wrong and still got a child like this, but at some point a parent needs to step back and say “I need help with this child” and seek additional assistance (whatever flavor you choose).
Not all minds are healthy and unhealthy ones tend to congregate together along shared perceptions. As far as I can tell, this seems to be no different than community congregation social structure.
I’m sorry for the parents loss, it has to hurt. I’m glad the couple was able to defend themselves. Go Texas!
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ozchambers
Mar. 21, 2013 at 11:00amI’m sure they had grand plans, but once again, when a good citizen shows up with a firearm the nutjobs do the world a favor and put the bullet in their own heads. It happens over and over again, and yet no one in the MSM points out the connection. I didnt see this story at all until The Blaze reported it. Thanks Blaze!
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starman70
Mar. 21, 2013 at 11:26amIt would be interesting to know if they were violent video game junkies. Anyway, they didn’t achieve any goal they might have set for themselves so they instead ended the game before they could face the hard realities of punishment by society.
It’s hard to understand what drives a kid from any good family to such insane behavior.
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stablepar
Mar. 21, 2013 at 11:54amyou can’t write a better ending. semper fi
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Max jones
Mar. 21, 2013 at 2:24pmENCINOM….I am sure these two kids had more in common with you, than any of the NRA “lovin’ folks on this site…….You have been on the “loser” side of every story you’ve ever posted on. puke.
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Max jones
Mar. 21, 2013 at 2:27pmTwo boys, 19 guns……one ‘man” had them outnumbered, from the get go.
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Max jones
Mar. 21, 2013 at 2:33pmChief, the anti Christian, anti family, anti moral. atmosphere we have in this country, grows the perfect constituency for the anti “everything good and wholesome” devils we have in washington .
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Leerm
Mar. 21, 2013 at 9:42amSo, what kind weapon did the guy use to defend his home and wife? Since they dont say I assume it was an AR or something equal.
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Leveraction3030
Mar. 21, 2013 at 10:42pmOh wake up LEERM. He charged out the door with a double barrel shotgun and fired two round into the air. His loyal wife was under the porch protecting the homestead with a pair of scissors.
Joe Biden and Big Sis are right. Fire two shots into the air and get some scissors and crawl under something and you will be fine. My God these two men must have heard the Liberal Dem instructions and so they ran away and shot themselves.
Can’t wait to try this at home when the thugs show up As long as they are liberal thugs they know what is required of them now so they will run away and commit suicide.
I feel so much better for America now.
(Sarcasm)
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HOOT_OWL
Mar. 21, 2013 at 9:04amSay what you, want All this can be laid at the feet of the removal of God out of our children’s lives. They have “no fear” of eternal retribution.
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HOOT_OWL
Mar. 21, 2013 at 9:14amOps …. Say what you want,
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randy1bella2
Mar. 21, 2013 at 9:26amBut that “removal” starts at the parents. We cannot expect our children to live lives that we do not demonstrate to them. There is no difference in most cases in how “Christian” parents live compared to no Christians, even if there is plenty of difference in what they preach to their kids. But our kids are being trained but how we live, not by what we say/preach alone. If parents preach AND live what they preach we have hope; otherwise do not expect school to teach our kids what we as parents do not teach with our lives.
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upeopleneedtogetalife
Mar. 21, 2013 at 9:35amThat’s an understatement.. They don’t even have fear of retribution period.
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WarMunger_Al
Mar. 21, 2013 at 9:41amI would add to that liberal indoctrination in the public schools. Liberalism rots the brain
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vaman
Mar. 21, 2013 at 10:29amDo a quick Google search and you will find out with teenage serial killers and shooters, the parents were christian church going people. God or eternal hell or whatever else you believe in is not applicable.
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Tom K
Mar. 21, 2013 at 10:40am@ HOOT_OWL : You are correct. God & the Bible were removed from the Schools and some homes and replaced with EVERY Godless thing one could imagine. Those two lost boys have found their eternal punishment – what a waste. Satan is doing his dance. Never Forget that the Leftists that have caused this mess NOW want to take legal firearms away from law abiding citizens that are trying to protect themselves from dangerous knuckleheads like these two boys. Vicious Cycle !
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TMunson
Mar. 21, 2013 at 10:48amYou beat me too that!
You are correct, we now reap the progressive seed we have planted years ago.
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rangerskippy
Mar. 21, 2013 at 10:53amVman
I did the search on google, and discovered that no teen mass murders were schooled in christian home school, or christian private school
I did find that they are deep into video games, role play games, goth stuff, satanic rock music, divorced families, and did not attend church regularly.
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NewCreationDave
Mar. 21, 2013 at 11:06amOh yes, Vaman, great logic there! If someone claims to be something but acts as if they’re not, then the problem isn’t that they weren’t what they claimed to be or didn’t model it properly. No, it HAS to be that the standard they claimed to measure up to is illegitimate. Yep, I once had a guy tell me he played in the NFL but it turned out he was lying. That’s how I know the NFL doesn’t really exist!
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Rokytop
Mar. 21, 2013 at 11:48amThanks rangerskippy! I agree with your google search, and the lefties don’t want to accept their responsibility in these shootings. I believe you find liberal progressives as parents, a connection to the liberal progressive causes, or people with hate letters to Bush, or people who loved Obama. Very few right-wing nuts among the killers.
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USNVET66-70
Mar. 21, 2013 at 12:11pmAmen. The late Charles Colson said when He was in prison they had to protect the young from the old. Today they have to protect the old from the young,”We have raised a generation of Feral Animals.”
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Richalu
Mar. 21, 2013 at 12:24pmA story of two children.
I’m the elder son of a (retired) 21 yr. Marine and Methodist Minister. My Mother the organist and church leader. At 82, still very active.
I, in the 70′s, was a rebellious child. Started smoking cigarettes at age 11-12. Pot at 16. Busted for possession at 17. Still smoked and drank during and after high school.
Was in a household with assessable firearms and ammo. Owned my own rifle at age 16. Never once thought to use it in any way except hunting.
15 years later. My youngest brother, deeply involved in drugs and alcohol. Anti-social. Very angry about anything that kept him from his wants. Watched a friend put a bullet in his head at a party.
I remember my father confiding in me the times he sat up all night, with his handgun by his side, wondering if his son would come in to kill him and Mom.
The difference in our rebellious nature? The different cultures that we grew up in. I was an angry rebel, but knew the difference between right and wrong. He was an angry rebel, but my Father, at least, questioned whether that difference was known. I questioned it, because I faced it several times myself. I could feel his struggle against violence.
The culture today, for many reasons, has blurred even more those differences. The value of life has been minimized. The value of worth has been all but abolished.
By the way. That brother, now 40 and with a young son of his own, has made a complete turnabout.
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USAFRetired
Mar. 21, 2013 at 8:59am@ THX-1138
Thank you, you stated my point more eloquently.
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randy1bella2
Mar. 21, 2013 at 9:36amRead my post again please. Never called you antisocial.
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USAFRetired
Mar. 21, 2013 at 9:52am@randy1bella2
“Did you have antisocial siblings also?”
Implies that I was antisocial by the use of the word “also” in you statement.
Did you go to English class in school and pass on your own merits, or were you graded on a bell curve.
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USAFRetired
Mar. 21, 2013 at 10:02amSorry, It was posed as a question not a statement, even though the question does make a statement about your opinion of my family.
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randy1bella2
Mar. 21, 2013 at 10:05amCannot recall how I was graded, but you said I tried to offend you by “implying” something in my question. As for your question–none of the choices you listed apply to me.
By the way, you missed a question mark in the question you asked about my grammar score–ironic, isn’t it?
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BlackCrow
Mar. 21, 2013 at 8:46amIt was not that the guns were not “secured”, I had four rifles and two shotguns hung on the wall in my room and the ammo when I was 15. The problem is DRUGS! Society is so accepting of illegal drug use that this sort of thing is going to continue to be a problem. Want to solve it? Lock up illegal drug users. Send them a message, do dope go to JAIL!
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THX-1138
Mar. 21, 2013 at 8:49amYeah, that’s been working out great since the 1930′s. Right after they repealed Prohibition. Right?
The problem is not a lack of laws; it’s a lack of morals. But that problem is too hard for some people to face much less solve…
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FISH_BONE
Mar. 21, 2013 at 9:01amI also had two rifles in my bedroom from the time I was six years old until I left my parents’ home. However, it’s a whole new world now. My guns are secured in a safe, period.
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poorrichard09
Mar. 21, 2013 at 9:02amAnother adam lanza wannabe-he even looks kinda like the little turd.
Moral of story: DON’T MESS WITH TEXANS!
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Gonzo
Mar. 21, 2013 at 9:06amBingo THX.
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ColoOldTimer
Mar. 21, 2013 at 9:21amBath salts…..
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SacredHonor1776
Mar. 21, 2013 at 9:31amFor ‘morality’ to work, there must be a clear understanding of the consquences of ‘poor’ choices. For that, that is the job of the parents.
The problem isn’t drugs, guns, or any inanimate object. The problem are parents who are not doing a good enough job of instilling proper ethics and morality on their children, and not showing the consequences of wrong choices.
People are instead relying on the media, teachers or the government to do the ‘parenting’ for them.
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Locked
Mar. 21, 2013 at 9:46am@THX
“The problem is not a lack of laws; it’s a lack of morals. But that problem is too hard for some people to face much less solve…”
Bam. This, right here, is the best response I’ve read on the topic. The folks who are blaming videogames, drugs, music, etc. are as bad as those blaming the amount of guns, the security of the guns, or the legal use of prescription drugs.
It’s not the government’s job to put bubblewrap on all the sharp corners in your house – it’s the parents’ job to raise their children right and be on the look out for potential problems. Shockingly, it seems both liberals AND (social) conservatives have forgotten that you can do this without legislating everything in the world.
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AvengerK
Mar. 21, 2013 at 10:44amWell said THX.
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2GodBeTheGlory
Mar. 21, 2013 at 11:40amI do not believe the problem is with drugs, just like I don’t believe the problem is with booze, or guns. The problem is the choices that a person makes, not the vice that draws them.
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birthright
Mar. 21, 2013 at 12:30pmEveryone: it’s not in this story, but the facts are that the kid broke into a locked room and into a locked cabinet to get the guns. Better start to work on better ways to lock up the weapons. But then, if the home owner’s gun had been locked up, it wouldn’t have been much use. Whatcha gonna do?
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peaceangel
Mar. 22, 2013 at 5:26amBlackcrow—-you are sooooo off on this as are most of the people in the nation who only troll websites to hear themselves talk and NEVER think to get the facts.
It clearly tells you the kid stole (prescription drugs) which are not illegal but far more dangerous.
All of you are soooooo off the mark, it is ridiculous. All of you have a different theory for why all these shootings are taking place and none of you know or are addressing the truth in this convo.
The American Psychiatric Association has determined that at least 50% of ALL Americans suffer from a mental disease or disorder. They know this to be true because they know our government has been poisoning us for decades.
The meds for these illnesses are filled with more poisons. Psychotropic (antidepressant) drugs tell you right on the label that can cause frequent “acts of violence” and “suicidal tendencies” and if that is not enough to keep kids off of these drugs, then the FACT that 100% of the school shooters in America and in many other parts of the world were on or in withdrawal from a psychotropic drug.
An entire story on each kid and what drugs they were on or in withdrawal from, which by the way is worse,can be seen on Front Sight in a recent article.
And finally, to those of you who believe that all of this New World Order stuff is only a leftist thing and that some republican is coming to rescue you are dumber than the left wing socialists. This is a bi-partisan NAZI movement.
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bigbear_awake
Mar. 21, 2013 at 8:24amUNRULY son and he CAN GET TO THE GUNS BAD PARENTS Point Blank!!!!!
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firedsilver.ok
Mar. 21, 2013 at 8:44amAnd an unruly teen given access to a 3,000 pound rolling death machine (aka car) would also make the parents bad, right? Or does that hit a little too close to home for most of you? Is it more comfortable to demonize honest, law abiding gun owners exercising their constitutional rights??
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randy1bella2
Mar. 21, 2013 at 9:17amFsilver,
Whether you have a gun safe or not does not interfere with your 2nd amendment right. We do not advocate mandating this or that for the home–you decide. What I advocate is that each person exercises JUDGMENT based on their own family situation. If I know I have a highly volatile home with antisocial youth, you bet that I will have to decide when it is more dangerous for me and others around me/neighborhood to keep those guns available for the criminals under my roof. I may even decide that I may not want to keep weapons at home at all–my choice, no government telling me to do it. This does not mean that everyone must do what I do, but the 2nd amendment does not take away wisdom and our responsibility to exercise good judgment. The 2nd amendment assumes those under it can have discernment to know best how to live in our society without the government telling us how to do live. I think you mixing apples and oranges here.
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WarMunger_Al
Mar. 21, 2013 at 9:46amrandy-
pretty hard to defend your home when the guns are locked in a safe. Time is precious, seconds count. I would be even worse if you followed all the “safety” rules and kept them unloaded with a trigger lock, inside said safe.
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Walkabout
Mar. 21, 2013 at 10:03amWhat cannot a person get to with a cutting torch, hacksaw or a thorough search of a house for keys?
Nothing can be made physically safe. The have done studies of shipping container security. The “red team” was able to open the containers, steal & then close the containers with fakes seals so that it was nigh impossible that they had been there. My point is that locking stuff up does not prevent theft so much as it buys you time. That is an important difference.
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The_Fifth_Column
Mar. 21, 2013 at 11:17amAfter reading all of your posts……….. It’s all the parents fault right! Typical Liberal mind. Blame someone else, for the bad behavior of others. How do you know that the weapons and ammo weren’t locked up? What about the Pick-up Truck! Should it also be locked in a safe? How about the Kitchen Knives? How about the Ax on the wood pile? Etc….etc….etc!
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rangerskippy
Mar. 21, 2013 at 8:16amhttp://www.myfoxdetroit.com/story/19085483/two-murders-within-days-on-the-same-detroit-block
Why does the blaze and the MSM generally only report murder, when the victim and suspect are white?
Folks are gunned down in Chicago, Detroit, Philly, LA…. on a daily basis, but no news? Are we hiding something here? Do Americans only care about the lives of white people? Are black lives not valued the same as white lives?
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dimart
Mar. 21, 2013 at 8:34amGee Skippy, why don’t you ask that question of all your liberal friends who allowed the murders of 5 Sandy Hooks in Chicago in the course of a year and never once called for any legislation. These, of course were all black children – all 100+ of them – and not one word from your left-wing legislatures. Any more questions?
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V-MindMeld
Mar. 21, 2013 at 8:36amBecause the Blaze would have to start another website just to cover all that violence…….
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V-MindMeld
Mar. 21, 2013 at 8:44amAnd, the blaze only cover unusual and bizzare storys. there is nothing unusaul about black gang memebers killing each other and doing cowardly drive by shootings, its just common place now,,,like it or not, and oobama and the local authorities do not want to make life any better for those folks, just keep em on welfare and keep getting their foolish unknowledge votes,,,yep, they got em where they want em…
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DREDGE
Mar. 21, 2013 at 8:48amIn Chicago murder is a popular pastime, in the rest of the world it is a tragedy!!!
Not unlike killing roaches!
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Caniac Steve
Mar. 21, 2013 at 9:06amBias 7 racism in the media?? oh posh !! neve happens…oh Really ?
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rangerskippy
Mar. 21, 2013 at 10:56amdimart
Thanks, you just made my point.
By the way, I do not have any liberal friends. I do not associate with idiots.
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Max jones
Mar. 21, 2013 at 2:56pmRanger….the difference in reporting is, we have become accustomed to black city kids killing black city kids, and so has the media. Plus it is a goal of the left to allow black city kids to continue in this kind of behavior. Detroit, chicago, L.A., Atlanta, et.al. have become so dangerous the cops are avoiding certain areas completely…….These are mostly in the black areas of town. the blame for the behavior can be laid at the feet of the Jeremiah wrights and Al sharptons and Jesse Jacksons…..It is “materialism’, gone wild…..”Get rich or die tryin” type of thinking, that always blames social discrimination for sin. It was the same thing when I was a kid, but then, it was prostitution and heroin addiction, That were the problems, instead of urban warfare.
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USAFRetired
Mar. 21, 2013 at 8:13amI grew up with our families guns in just a gun rack over my bed (no locks or trigger gaurds). shells in the drawer underneath them. Unless we were going hunting they were never touched, I would have had my hands broken, and I knew the consiquences. Kids today see no consiquence to their actions.
Locks and gun safes only keep honest people honest. Give them enough free time and determination, anyone can open a lock or safe, gun or otherwise.
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randy1bella2
Mar. 21, 2013 at 8:26amNot sure what is your point. But IF you suggest that the best way in this situation is to keep the arsenal available to this criminal, you are part of the problem (we pray you are not raising a Lanza –bad for others, though the parent may reap what they saw). “I was raised”–Ok. Good for you and your family, but does that mean that this is the only way to deal with guns at home regardless of the situation. Did you have antisocial siblings also? “Enough time and determination” AND poor and foolish parenting–what wrong with that?
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FISH_BONE
Mar. 21, 2013 at 8:38amIf you raise kids with guns in house, it is your responsibility to teach proper gun safety, including how to properly secure the guns. In addition to teaching proper gun safety, you also need to practice proper gun safety. And here’s a bonus tip: having guns available or accessible in a home with a teen who bucks the rules is not an example of proper gun safety.
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Marine25
Mar. 21, 2013 at 8:41amYour commentary only helps the gun-regulation movement. A family who thought it safe to keep weapons and ammunition near a child’s bed knowing the child would not fool with the weapons because of fear of retribution. Adam Lanza might have feared getting his hands broken too, so he shot mom while she was sleeping. That’s the sort of argument you are fueling.
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Soularcher
Mar. 21, 2013 at 8:43amYes, me too. We knew our actions would have consequences, AND we were brought up around guns, and were taught safety, safety, safety first! Now, we have all of this hippy parenting going on where kids must be allowed to rebel, and express their feelings, and disciplining is a bad thing. Now we are reaping the ‘benefits’ of such parenting!
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THX-1138
Mar. 21, 2013 at 8:46amI think his main point is that *WE* have allowed society as a whole to turn to $h1t. And now we reap the consequences…
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USAFRetired
Mar. 21, 2013 at 8:54am@ randy1bella2
I never said it was the only way, and you can label the kid a (Dead) criminal now, not before the attempted crime. which you seem to do quite readily in your statement. If the parents knew there son, not just procreated him and let him loose on the world, they might have had the firearms locked up. Still doesnt diminish the fact that he had the time to unlock them if they were.
To call me or my family antisocial is proof, you are grasping at straws, hoping to elicite an anger responce, keep waiting.
Nothing wrong with poor and foolish parenting, Darwin awards are presented daily to them.
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Firefight
Mar. 21, 2013 at 8:55amHe stated his points clearly but apparently it needs to be spelled out very slowly for you. When he was young he understood the consequences and “kids today see no consiquence to their actions.” It was a brief story followed by a conclusion and then he stated an additional point. It’s not that hard to get so try and calm down, take a deep breath and read again. Then maybe, just maybe you’ll see that he never stated or even insinuated that everyone raise their kids that way and it was simple commentary about the differences between the generations and the determination of the criminal mind.
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guz75
Mar. 21, 2013 at 8:55am@USAFRETIRED
This slightly narcissistic ‘my backyard’ mentality really isn’t helpful. In a country of over 300 million different people, living in different environments and different situations, you can’t just apply your childhood, or apply the way it works in ‘your backyard’ to everything. You get people who describe themselves as patriots, yet it is abundantly clear that, to them, America is not a nation of people, but a plot of land that must live by the rules of ‘their backyard’. Not patriotic and not realistic.
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FISH_BONE
Mar. 21, 2013 at 9:08amUSAF, the article clearly stated the dad indicated his son bucked the rules. He knew the kid was a problem.
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objectivetruth
Mar. 21, 2013 at 9:57amOk thats it.All of you need to go back to school and learn how to read write and comprehend.The poster has a truly legitimate point.What none of you brilliant scholars managed to touch on is that guns have been kept unlocked and within easy access of kids for decades-centuries.They didn’t go around killing people due to the ease.They also bucked the rules ,they didn’t kill people either, though.They didn’t steal their parents cars guns and loads of ammunition then commit a armed home invasion either.Some of these nuts do come from bad homes but many many more don’t.How about I touch on a subject most of you will be loath to discuss or hear.Thses kids not only lack faith and god.They lack any type of hope whatsoever.They look around at whats befallen this country, they see the powerlessness that most have to stop the insanity.They see what amounts to a life being treated like a child even after they are an adult.The normal graduation to adulthood is impeded by our own government.They see no way out and will take any one with them that they can.They see no reason not to.They see a life of never ending misery and truthfully many of us posting here do to but we are older wiser and more in control.We had the advantage of the remanents of the illusion to continue the fight.They don’t even have that.The enemy is winning disbelieve me just look around at the state our society is in.
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FISH_BONE
Mar. 21, 2013 at 12:06pmOBJECTIVE: What you seem to have missed is that this is not the same world it was 50, 25 or even 10 years ago. While many of us grew up with unsecured guns in our homes, including myself, you simply can’t do that anymore. Even if your own kids know better, who is to say their friend has enough sense to leave the gun alone? Wake up and smell reality, its 2013 now, not 1953!
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objectivetruth
Mar. 21, 2013 at 3:42pm@fishbone
My kids are all adults.This isn’t a personal issue with me.The point is its up to the family individual to decide not you nor anyone else.I am quite well aware of the year there dear.No it isn’t the same world.It however doesn’t need to be what all of you seem to wish either.You are all for freedom as long as the citizens do what you want and on your timeframe.The constitution doesn’[t work that way and you know it.
Well at least I see why kids can’t take responsibility.They are being taught by those who have none themselves.You and those like you simply wish to change handlers.You are the equivalent to moral morons.You change direction the way the wind blows.Either stand up and fight for real freedom or shut up sit back and let the rest of us do it.Yes I do mean the freedom to leave your guns within your own dwelling unlocked.To have the guts and fortitude to teach your kids that somethings are more than off limits.You commit the crime there is one punishment.I brought you in I’ll take you out.Have the damn backbone to own your beliefs then stick by them.
Thank you though it has confirmed what I thought .The left and right are of the same coin.Both murderous and unpredictable.The left whiny touchy feely and the right morally falsely indignant and arrogant.Guess what the rest of us are sick to death of all of you
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steve-in-pa
Mar. 21, 2013 at 8:10amTaught all the liberal theories and ideals in the public school system. But nothing about family values or another persons right to life. A kid and a dog are kind of alike… the way you raise them is the way they will act.
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mikem1969
Mar. 21, 2013 at 8:20amAh, the liberal progressive way of life. Drives everyone that follows their mantra nuts.
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randy1bella2
Mar. 21, 2013 at 8:10amThe dad: “you know Kenneth [my criminal son] has always bucked my rules. I’m a hardnosed parent,” that is why I always kept the weapons, yes, lots of weapons and plenty of ammo available to my rebellious, antisocial son..yes the one I raised with my “rules”; I may have no clue how raise my children but I make sure there are always “rules” in my house.” Do you want me to help raise your child with my “rules”? Anyways I must say something to the sherriff so he does not think I just sat watching TV and let school and TV raise my children…I like my sports and my beer, and the children can be left to the “system,” you know, yeah…, school and TV and the neighborhood. I will rather watch movies and sports than spend time alone with my children, especially the boys. All of you guys, don’t hang out with your kids, just given them stuff, more stuff. That way the fooled youth will vote for more corrupt politicians, and the whole country goes down in flames. That’s all folks from the “hardnosed” parent.
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Wisdom7
Mar. 21, 2013 at 8:28amI don’t buy that rules line either. Either he didn’t have any rules or his rules were tyranny causing the kid to rebel. Try a hug once in awhile along with your rules while these kids are growing up you idiots.
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DoctorRon
Mar. 21, 2013 at 8:07am“Teens dies…”?
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226crimsontrace
Mar. 21, 2013 at 9:31amCall me a softy if you wish, but I love a happy ending, I think I feel a tear rolling down my cheek
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rangerskippy
Mar. 21, 2013 at 8:02amWhat was he doing with the drugs?
What video games did he play, and how often?
What music did he listen to?
How often did mom and dad take him to church?
Did he go to private or public school?
Are mom and dad divorced?
What is up with that stupid looking haircut? I seem to notice a pattern.
I also seem to notice that the little video game freakazoids are raised in a world of video games, MTV, and satanic music. They are the little weak minded Goth sorts. Notice that as soon as a real man shows up with a gun, these little turds crap their pants, and shoot themself. They have weak minds, weak bodies, and are a byproduct of feminism, homosexuality, video games, and satanic music.
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bigbear_awake
Mar. 21, 2013 at 8:14amHOW DID he GET THE GUNS another responsible HOUSE HOLD?
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KenshinDragon
Mar. 21, 2013 at 8:15amAlthough I am not going to blame all video games and all music for the actions of a few stupid individuals, there certainly is a direct connection between many of these stupid individuals who set out to cause harm to others. But rather that society and weak parenting in general are the main issues here. Video games and music in moderation seem to be just fine.
It is when these people spend most of their waking hours immersed in these games and music that monsters seem to develop. But to blame a video game or a type of music for the actions of a deranged person is just as bad as blaming the gun they used.
But with that said, parents need to get back to being involved in their kids lives and not just overseeing them.
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CABERNETQHS
Mar. 21, 2013 at 8:42amAgree with your post. I see a lot of the delinquent kids I work with addicted to drugs. Parents aren’t teaching their kids to cope with life…if junior is hyper, put him on Adderall. How about playing outside, throw a ball with him? Families are falling apart and the kids aren’t able to cope. My opinion.
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ldm1970
Mar. 28, 2013 at 7:39pmRANGERSKIPPY
Posted on March 21, 2013 at 8:02am
What was he doing with the drugs? Can’t answer but he didn’t do drugs
What video games did he play, and how often? No
What music did he listen to? Rock not rap
How often did mom and dad take him to church? Attended every Sunday, some Wednesdays.
Did he go to private or public school? Public but past two years homeschooled after being bullied
Are mom and dad divorced? No
What is up with that stupid looking haircut? I seem to notice a pattern. Kids wear it longer now
He had a job and got in argument with dad the he ran away. There was a a lot of influence in his last few days decisions.
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rjtaurus605
Mar. 21, 2013 at 8:00am“why does someone need nine handguns?” are you really going to question that? what difference does it make how many guns of any type the parents owned? We have no derails provide of what they were, maybe the father was a collector, but it does not matter. he has the legal right to have as many as he wants, no one wants to limit how many Star Wars figurines are in your home! Also, we do not know if the weapons were secured or not. So don’t start with that until the facts come out.
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Marine25
Mar. 21, 2013 at 8:44amThe weapons were not secured. By definition, they could not have been secured, they were stolen.
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stumpygrim
Mar. 21, 2013 at 7:57amI see encinom the parrot troll is out spewing the left rhetoric about “why does someone need X number of X type of gun” f-n dumbass……
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rangerskippy
Mar. 21, 2013 at 8:05amwe need x number of guns, and x type, so when the little video game playing heathen, stoned on their meth, and high on their satanic music show up, we can shooth the little bastards
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Dismayed Veteran
Mar. 21, 2013 at 8:32amRanger
LOL. You hit dead bang on.
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Jive Mickey
Mar. 21, 2013 at 7:49am” … were found dead on the scene, apparently from self-inflicted gunshot wounds.”
So what’s up with that? Every time they shoot themselves rather than surrender or go down in a hail of bullets in a shootout. Are these teens that deluded, crazed, hopeless and desperate that stealing, robbing and finally shooting yourself is considered a reasonable course of action?
Talk about a nation desperately in need of jobs, purpose and a sense of morality that has been wrung out of us.
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DZ-015
Mar. 21, 2013 at 7:57amGamers? Not wanting to lose their points?
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katzkiner
Mar. 21, 2013 at 8:33amWe have lost 56,000 factories since 2000, the kids are reminded everyday how hopeless their future is. When I was this kids age, I went to church every Sunday and was sure we would be exploring the solar system by now. What happened?
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FISH_BONE
Mar. 21, 2013 at 8:43amWhat happened? Liberals.
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dublinthewagons
Mar. 21, 2013 at 7:49amSelf inflicted gun shot wounds. Shot 5 times in the head with a single shot rifle. Lmao
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Ben__Franklin
Mar. 21, 2013 at 7:48am17 guns and 2000 rounds of Ammo and no gun safe? A nice gun safe is cheaper than one nice 9MM or 40. The Parents are clearly irresponsible. No matter how much you put trust in your kids not to touch your firearms. Don’t give them the chance to disappoint. They only have one life.
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seek.the.truth
Mar. 21, 2013 at 7:56amExactly!
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stumpygrim
Mar. 21, 2013 at 8:00amencinom aka ben,a nice gun safe is cheaper that a nice 9 or 40,really, dumbass, soo me where thats possible, f-n idiot.
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FISH_BONE
Mar. 21, 2013 at 8:11amMy guns are in a very secure safe that cost approximately $250 and I guarantee my kids can’t get in it. My GLOCK 9 mm cost well over $250. Any more questions?
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FISH_BONE
Mar. 21, 2013 at 8:16amStumpy, you are the reason people without guns view gun owners as illiterate hill billies. Do us all a favor and either gather some common sense or shut the hell up. We have enough problems defending gun rights without you giving the other side fuel for their fire.
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Richalu
Mar. 21, 2013 at 8:57amI didn’t see any reference to a gun safe. Could you point it out in the story?
But it doesn’t matter. If someone wants something bad enough, they’ll find a way.
The problem is in todays culture. Whether from TV, or video games, or school, or socio-liberal leanings, it’s a changed culture. And definitely not a change for the better.
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FISH_BONE
Mar. 21, 2013 at 9:11amNo mention of a safe – that’s the problem. If you own guns, take care of them.
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objectivetruth
Mar. 21, 2013 at 11:00amYes and totally unnecessary.The only point of it would be for your insurance company.Locks are for honest people.Thieves will find a way around them.Be it the front door or your gun safe.Can’t get it open they will just take it with them.Please don’t give me that worn out song and dance about wayward teenagers either.They have been around as long as there have been children born.Rebellion is part of growing up.Almost all of us has at some point in time rebelled against our parents while growing up.We didn’t shoot them or anyone else.
@fishbone
I don’t appreciate the reference to illiterate hillbillies.Most of the people from that region are actually better educated than many others.;They also have common sense and teach their kids right from wrong.Their children value life.They also are taught about guns and other weapons from a early age.
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FISH_BONE
Mar. 21, 2013 at 12:02pmOBJECTIVE: How is your reading comprehension? Poor would be my guess. My reference to hill billies was a reference to the perception of those who do not own guns. When you get behind, raise your hand so someone can help you.
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objectivetruth
Mar. 21, 2013 at 3:26pm@fishbone
My reading comprehension skills are just fine.I scored a 99 on english entrance exams to college.How about you?
I take offense to the use of the term hillbillie for your reference point.You go on and on trying to claim that non gun owners see gun owners as illiterate hillbillies due to someones posting.About a troll no less.The poster isn’t trying to win points in a debate.Which brings me around to another point.If you are trying to debate with someone ,who is truly brain dead enough, to believe that hillbillies are stupid dumb retarded don’t you think its a waste of your time and effort.Someone like that isn’t going to be swayed by anything you say or do.They will think what they want come hell or high water.Its called delusion and you can’t reason nor argue with it.Stop beating yourself over the head trying.Keeping them at legal bay is all you me or anyone can hope to do.
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USAFRetired
Mar. 21, 2013 at 7:44amThe lefties will cry that these boys had a bright future cut short by a senceless act of violence of the homeowner, or their survivalist parents indoctrnated them into a life prone to gun crime.
I contend that future crime rate has dropped by 2 and if the publish in the school news it may just reduce the urge of other youth to persue a violent end. Those that it does not stop will meet the same fate sooner or later. Come visit, I have a gift, it will be delivered in a “nice tight pattern”
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Jive Mickey
Mar. 21, 2013 at 7:54amMaybe a violent end, shooting yourself in the head, is “Cool” and “Fashionable”.
See, guns are bad. The gun oil gets into your hands and soaks through to your brain, causing stupidity and violent behavior. Ask the Liberal Politicians.
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ArmedAndReallyPissed
Mar. 21, 2013 at 7:33amIn Oklahoma, Pottawatomie County Undersheriff Travis Palmer said Chaffin was believed to have taken 17 guns, up to 2,000 rounds of ammunition and prescription drugs from the parents’ home…….
From the Obozo Administration : Stop the Violence now ! Ban Prescription Drugs.
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FISH_BONE
Mar. 21, 2013 at 7:27amThe parents had 17 guns that were not locked up in a safe? What kind of idiots have 17 guns, 2000 rounds of ammo and teenagers in the house and don’t lock up the guns?
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ArmedAndReallyPissed
Mar. 21, 2013 at 7:38amSandy Hook so quickly forgotten.
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Ben__Franklin
Mar. 21, 2013 at 7:43amIts their right to own them, but why does someone need nine handguns?
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techengineer11
Mar. 21, 2013 at 7:46amYou got a good point there.
And the kid was on drugs!
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FISH_BONE
Mar. 21, 2013 at 7:54amI don’t care if they had 109 handguns, it’s their right and their choice. Just put them in a safe so your kids (or anyone else) can’t get to them.
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stumpygrim
Mar. 21, 2013 at 7:54am@fish_brain aka encinom et al..
Where in the article does it say the parents did NOT have the guns locked up? And ben,why do you find it necessary to ask a dumbass question “why do they need nine handguns”,and in the same sentence say “its their right to own them”?! Dumb f-n morons……..
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rangerskippy
Mar. 21, 2013 at 7:54amIf all I had was 2000 rounds of ammunition, I would be worried (that is only a few cases of ammo). If it were .22 ammo, it could be four boxes from Wal-Mart.
I have teens living in my house, and they have access to the guns and ammo, and know how to use them.
The difference is that they have discipline, are in private Christian school, do not play video games, do not drink, do drugs, are not under the multicultural influence of the state run schools, and do not listen to the godless heathen rap and rock music,
Growing up, my brothers and I had rifles and ammunition in our rooms, by the age of 13.
We were raised to do what we were told, when we were told, and how we were told. We respected authority, we were trained in gun safety and marksmanship.
Problem we have today is these little freaks raised up with satanic music, gangster rap that glorifies crime, no parenting, drugs and alcohol, violent video games, and a school system that promotes humanism and does not teach the Ten Commandments.
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ArmedAndReallyPissed
Mar. 21, 2013 at 7:56amBEN : Yeah, it’s their right to own them but it’s also their responsibility to prevent them from getting in the hands of the wrong people. Maybe the Guns were all locked up. We don’t know yet. But if they weren’t, the Parents should lose their “rights” to own them, in my opinion.
Why so many ? It’s pretty common for someone to own dozens or even hundreds. They collect them like others collect Cars or Stamps.
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Kisses6350
Mar. 21, 2013 at 7:56amFish? The ones wit Prescription Drugs in the house!
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Golum
Mar. 21, 2013 at 8:00amTo Ben Franklin…
Why do you need 20 oz. soda?
Why do you need a gas guzzling car?
Why do you need French fries?
Car crashes kill people so let’s make everyone ride motorcycles. Soda and fries drive up healthcare costs for everyone, let Bloomberg ban them. Hammers kill people, lets ban them or at least restrict ownership to licensed contractors.
It’s not about need, it’s about rights, liberty, freedom.
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FISH_BONE
Mar. 21, 2013 at 8:06amStumpy: if the kid stole the guns and ammo, it was obviously not properly secured. If you are having a hard time connecting those dots, you have some serious mental problems brother.
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ArmedAndReallyPissed
Mar. 21, 2013 at 8:13amSTUMPY : Did you wake up on the wrong side of the Gutter this morning ? Chill out with the immature name calling.
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termyt
Mar. 21, 2013 at 8:14am2000 rounds of ammunition is not a lot. I know it sounds like a lot, but it isn’t. Especially if you own at least 17 different guns.
Like everything else, ammo is cheaper in bulk. To by 1000 rounds at a time is very cost-effective.
And, once again, it has nothing to do with need. Those of us who love our rights cannot let that ridiculous statement go unanswered. It’s a right. We don’t need to have the government address our grievances, we don’t need warrants for government searches, and we don’t need jury trials. We keep our rights because we prize Liberty over Safety. We risk incidents like this one so that we may be Free.
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Swalker
Mar. 21, 2013 at 8:34amThe problem is becoming clear here on the Blaze. It is like a complicated chain of events we need to put together. Freedom breeds Crime, White Oppression breeds Poverty, Religion breeds Bigotry, Free speech breeds hate, Responsibility breeds oppression. I could go on but you get the idea.
We are desperately in need of a good Dictatorship to clean up this wasted society. A good Jew will show the way. After all those White people have never been able to control themselves anyway. Down with Hitler, up with Karl Marx, Bolshevism here we come.
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HappyConservative
Mar. 21, 2013 at 7:25amSame bad haircut as the Sandy Hook shooter. Could there be a connection? (kidding!)
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DZ-015
Mar. 21, 2013 at 8:00amAll kidding aside, you may be on to something.
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JonSigMan
Mar. 21, 2013 at 8:39amMaybe, same m.o…..same stupid haircut, stole more weapons & ammo than needed/used. Commit suicide once opposition was posed. Might be more connected than first appears. Sounds like gaming mindset. Hit the reset button……..opps…. only works in virtual reality.
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DZ-015
Mar. 21, 2013 at 9:43amJonsigman: Speaking of gamers and nerdish haircuts, do you ever watch “The Big Bang Theory?” It is about the funniest sitcom now on TV, IMHO. One of the main characters, Howard, the astrophysicist, sports a haircut identical to Lanza, and now the kid in this story. Coincidence, perhaps; but, as Sheldon, the theoretical physicist says (quoting his favorite “Star Trek” character), “fascinating.”
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JonSigMan
Mar. 21, 2013 at 11:28amNo, never watched it, read about the “Big-Bang Theory” in school, didn’t put much stock it then, don’t have time to waste watching a sitcom utilizing it’s name now. Theories come and go. Reality is much more fascinating. :) Point is these kids are living in a fantasy world, and when confronted with reality, they check-out. Not sure why they are heading down that road, but it isn’t good for them or the people around them in the end.
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The_Almighty_Creestof
Mar. 21, 2013 at 7:12amThis what you get when your country makes being an “athiest”, the cool thing. Just like MTV made your 12 year old daughters tramps and your 12 year old sons thugs…it now make those who can’t fit into those molds, godless ticking time bombs…looking to go out in a blaze of perceived glory.
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RJJinGadsden
Mar. 21, 2013 at 7:25amI find myself in full agreement with you. Things like this now occur at an alarming rate too.
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techengineer11
Mar. 21, 2013 at 7:33amI agree with you.
So who owns MTV?
On another matter all of these kids on meds.. Something has gone awry.. What gives? Most kids I see today have no respect for their elders, smartasses and are just generally spoiled little brats.
Society is just coming unglued.
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lefty5005
Mar. 21, 2013 at 7:57amThe cool thing among teenagers around the country is to be “gay” even though they might not be gay. How the hell can a 13 y/o know their sexual orientation. You can directly thank all the liberals for this problem.
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ClingingtomyGUNS
Mar. 21, 2013 at 7:12amWhat do you want to bet, that the Feds never return any of the guns stolen from the parents? I will further bet you that they are charged with some type of crime. I pray for these parents, that they may cope with the loss of their son. I also pray for the folks whose home was riddled with gunfire, that they may sleep in peace after this horrific event.
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spinwizard
Mar. 21, 2013 at 7:23amwanna bet the victims’ guns were siezed as well?
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FISH_BONE
Mar. 21, 2013 at 7:33amIf you are too stupid to properly secure your guns, you have no need to keep them. I have guns and plenty of ammo and its all kept I’m a safe where the kids have ZERO chance of getting it. Irresponsible gun owners give the rest of us a bad name.
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Rickfromillinois
Mar. 21, 2013 at 8:04amI keep reading about the guns not being secured and not being locked up in a safe. Where in the article did it state that they weren’t? Could it be that they were but the kid found out what the combination was? Why no criticism about the stolen truck? When I grew up on a farm more then a few years ago, there were guns out in the open in our homes and most of the homes of my friends. Just perhaps the problem is with some of kids today.
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FISH_BONE
Mar. 21, 2013 at 8:24amRick, the story said the kid bucked the rules. The parents obviously knew he had some issues. If the kid obtained the guns, which he did, they were obviously not properly secured.
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FISH_BONE
Mar. 21, 2013 at 8:51amRick, If the problem is with the kids, then all the more reason to secure the guns and ammo. The dad said the kid was a problem. If you know your kid has issues, take extra precaution. This isn’t the same world you grew up in. It’s not the same world I grew up in. Welcome to reality and adjust accordingly.
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Warphead
Mar. 21, 2013 at 11:54amSounds like Ronnie & Clyde that never got off the ground. Looks like they picked the wrong week to quit smoking, sniffing glue, amphetamines. Looks like they picked the wrong house, the wrong week, the wrong day & the wrong homeowner to pull off some home invasion crap.
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Warphead
Mar. 21, 2013 at 12:17pmHey, Just an OBSERVER. When my punk, drug ridden, worthless brother finally realized he crossed over a line in which there was no coming back. When he awoke to the fact that everything & everyone he came into contact with was for the worse because of it. When it became clear that the world was indeed a better place without him and he put a .32 slug through his brain (probably the only thing he ever actually did correctly) it hurt my parents deeply. But after some time the relief in their lives became evident. My poor old mother’s worrying all night that something would happen to him stopped. My father’s fear that he would come staggering in drunk, on drugs (like most nights) and hurt or kill them was over. The multitude of low life criminals he continually would bring home to my parents house stopped. His x-wife’s constant worry that on the weekends he had visitation with their young daughter that something bad would happen to her ended. And that call I had been expecting for years that he had hurt or killed my mom & dad, it never came and never will. After the shock, of what everyone already knew would happen in some form or another, was over it was like everyone that ever knew him took one long sigh of relief. No one ever said they wanted him to die, but no one would ever say that there lives were not better because of it. The whole thing was sad. It sucked. But it was the way it was and after years of it everyone knew it wasn’t going to get better, even my brother.
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1in11-twist
Mar. 21, 2013 at 7:04amAy Boyz, two more POS out the gene pool…..is all I got to say. Lets clean this place up ya hear.
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