
John Martin, owner of Shooter’s Depot works with his ammunition stock Thursday, Feb. 7, 2013, on Shallowford Road in Chattanooga, Tenn. Martin says demand has been so high for ammunition, he had to limit his stock of ammo to range members only. (Photo: AP/Chattanooga Times Free Press, John Rawlston)
Ever since gun control discussions began in such earnest after the tragedy in Newtown, Conn., firearms and ammunition have been flying off the shelves. Store owners have said they can’t restock fast enough and demand has driven up the prices. But what about those who need ammo for the jobs and have budgets that have remained stagnant or even declined, like law enforcement?
An Oklahoma police department is saying it is taking donations and coming up with other innovative ways to get their hands on necessary supplies that it can’t seem to afford or that it cannot find in stock at this time.
KJRH reported Jenks Police Department Chief Cameron Arthur saying some departments are bartering for supplies and even cutting down on the number of bullets loaded in firearms to stretch stocks.
“Most police departments are having a very difficult time even getting the necessary ammunition for handguns, shotguns and especially rifles,” Arthur said. “With the delay in ammunition, some departments are limiting the number of rounds they carry in their handgun because of the shortage of ammunition. We get to the point where it is difficult to have enough ammo to train and also equip the officers.”
Arthur also said the department received a $3,000 donation from the community for supplies and has had some donations of goods from the U.S. military.
Overall, Arthur expressed his primary objective to KJRH, which is to make sure officers and citizens are kept safe.
“Statistics would show that about one out of every five officers that are killed are killed with an assault-type rifle. We are being out-armed and out-manned in regard to these type of weapons day in and day out. So it is critical that we have access to superior fire power,” Arthur said.
But this Oklahoma department is by no means the only one rethinking its operations due to an ammo shortage. Police departments in South Carolina and Georgia have expressed how difficult it has been to get their hands on a timely supply of ammunition. The same holds true for departments in Tennessee, Indiana and Michigan who are also waiting for backordered supplies.
Watch this report about the ammo shortages:
Some have made the connection between the ammo shortage and the Department of Homeland Security’s hope to purchase 1.6 billion rounds of ammo over a four to five year period. CNS News stated:
Meanwhile, Rep. Timothy Huelskamp (R-Kansas) says the Department of Homeland Security (DHS) has failed to respond to multiple members of Congress asking why DHS bought more than 1.6 billion rounds in the past year.
Here’s another report that questions this amount of ammunition being purchased:
This is not to say that DHS has answered to congress, but it did address the purpose of its solicitations for ammo in February. The Associated Press reported it saying the supplies would be needed for law enforcement agents in training and on duty officers:
Federal solicitations to buy the bullets are known as “strategic sourcing contracts,” which help the government get a low price for a big purchase, says Peggy Dixon, spokeswoman for the Federal Law Enforcement Training Center in Glynco, Ga . The training center and others like it run by the Homeland Security Department use as many as 15 million rounds every year, mostly on shooting ranges and in training exercises.
Dixon said one of the contracts would allow Homeland Security to buy up to 750 million rounds of ammunition over the next five years for its training facilities. The rounds are used for basic and advanced law enforcement training for federal law enforcement agencies under the department’s umbrella. The facilities also offer firearms training to tens of thousands of federal law enforcement officers. More than 90 federal agencies and 70,000 agents and officers used the department’s training center last year.
The rest of the 1.6 billion rounds of ammunition would be purchased by Immigration and Customs Enforcement, the federal government’s second largest criminal investigative agency.
TheBlaze has also reported military experts in the past saying the government buying millions of rounds of ammo is “perfectly normal” as an individual in training can go through thousands of rounds.
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Related:
- Homeland Security Soliciting Bids for Thousands of Rounds of Ammunition But Former SEAL Explains Why It’s Completely Normal
- Why Is Homeland Security Buying 450 Million Rounds of Hollow Point Bullets?
- Social Security Administration Requests Massive Amounts of .357 Ammo — But Why?
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Comments (146)
nonofmybiznez
Mar. 22, 2013 at 1:52pmWe need ammunition manufactureres to say to the US Government, we will only fill your orders for three months at a time. Then we will fill orders for Civilians and States for three months. That way, we all get served.
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RaydocX
Mar. 22, 2013 at 2:00pmAmen… AND they should add that for every box of rounds slated for Federal or LEO delivery or use a box will be provided for retail sales before another box is available to the Feds…
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Obama Snake Oil Co
Mar. 22, 2013 at 2:11pmThis was in our paper…
http://www.wnd.com/2013/03/why-does-obama-need-1-6-billion-bullets/
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MichaelKing4015
Mar. 22, 2013 at 3:34pmThat make so much sense but it will never happen.
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Trigus
Mar. 22, 2013 at 3:40pm“Statistics would show that about one out of every five officers that are killed are killed with an assault-type rifle. We are being out-armed and out-manned in regard to these type of weapons day in and day out. So it is critical that we have access to superior fire power,” Arthur said.” This is what Feinstein, Pelosi, Biden, and the rest of the liberal leftist are spewing and here is where they are getting this from:
“A 2003 report by the Violence Policy Center, titled “Officer Down,” showed that assault weapons were used in 20 percent of the 211 law enforcement officer killings between Jan. 1, 1998, and Dec. 31, 2001. That’s 1 in 5. Again, the assault weapons ban was in effect from September 1994 through September 2004.”
JPD police chief Cameron Arthur spewing the liberal leftist party line. Maybe why Ammunition Manufacturers are not re-supplying Agencies with Ammo. Maybe they are selling Ammunition to Pro-American Agencies first?
Yes, the gun ban was in effect and criminals still had access to “Assault Style Weapons.” Go figure.
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stablepar
Mar. 22, 2013 at 5:07pmlet me see if i understand this. homeland security is getting mucho ammo. the states cities and civies can no mo get ammo or verrrrry little ammo. now if we only should trust and respect our government entities when they deserve it then i think i am getting a bad feeling about all this. help me out with all this. is homeland security turning into obama’s heralded civilian army? you know the one that he said he wanted better supplied than our military. it’s probably one of the few truthful things he has told the american people. semper fi
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Whatmeworry-never
Mar. 22, 2013 at 5:23pmI heard the ammo producers have not even issued the rounds to Big Sis yet because they have not been paid for and are warehoused. This is killing the producers and it is driving the price of ammo up, if the ammo dam does not break soon we will have very few producers of ammo left. Glad I have black powder guns, heck may have to buy a crossbow soon.
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jcldwl
Mar. 22, 2013 at 7:03pm“TheBlaze has also reported military experts in the past saying the government buying millions of rounds of ammo is “perfectly normal” as an individual in training can go through thousands of rounds.”
Blaze you have been lied to. I served in the U.S. Air Force as a security specialist protecting the nuclear arsenal of our country. I qualified twice a year with the m-16 which I carried daily to do my job. I did not fire 1000′s of rounds. In fact I did not even fire a total of 100 rds between both those qualifications. I also served in the Air National Guard in Combat Arms Training and Maintenance. All personnel in the unit had to qualify once a year. They did not fire 1000′s of rounds. They did not even fire 100 rds. I was a Police Officer for 11 years. We qualified quarterly. We did not fire 1000′s of rds. At most firing quarterly we fired 200 rds a year one box per visit to the range. This is not normal and saying it is normal for a department that is responsible for Homeland Security to purchase 1.6 billion rds of hollow point bullets is just laughable. The military does not use hollow points let alone train with them. As a police officer I would fire hollow points once a year at the range, it was the ammo I carried on duty and once a year we replaced it so we shot the old stuff. I can’t believe you would even quote that baloney of a statement.
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Grey Eagle
Mar. 22, 2013 at 8:12pmExcellent idea.
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Proverbs17-12NLT
Mar. 22, 2013 at 8:31pmIt’s time to impeach the current democrat administration who no longer uphold the constitution. Our state and local Governments should not be suffering at the hands of federal. Time for the states to get pissed off!
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WarMunger_Al
Mar. 22, 2013 at 8:56pmMake DHS “redistribute” their wealth, all the bullets. What is up with .22lr not being available? where are all those rounds going?
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WarMunger_Al
Mar. 22, 2013 at 8:58pmTrigus-
I would bet most cops are shot by other cops. They completely lack in marksmanship skill and self control.
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Secret Squirrel
Mar. 22, 2013 at 9:18pmWhy don’t the cops just call Janet Napolitano?
She just bought 1.6 billion rounds.
Who is that for?
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Secret Squirrel
Mar. 22, 2013 at 9:20pm“Some Departments Are Cutting Amount of Bullets in Guns, ”
Aw, jeez, now even Barney Fife has 0 rounds. He had to give his one back.
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rickc34
Mar. 22, 2013 at 11:20pm1.6 billion hollow points. Hollow points? You do not use hollow points for target practice unless it is a living target ( qouting a Navy Seal buddy of mine) what is DHS up to.
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nzkiwi
Mar. 22, 2013 at 11:40pm@ None
With respect, I think that you might be looking in the wrong direction.
This link is titled “We are Preparing for Massive Civil War, Says DHS Informant”
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nXg2WsNCrW4
I don’t agree with all of it, but I’ll leave you to decide kow much credence to give it…
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Wolf
Mar. 23, 2013 at 12:19amThis article is full of lies and brainwashing that are going to be swallowed hook, line and sinker by the sheeple and Beck as well.
“…the government buying millions of rounds of ammo is “perfectly normal” as an individual in training can go through thousands of rounds…” Uh-huh.
“…Federal solicitations to buy the bullets are known as “strategic sourcing contracts,”… says Peggy Dixon, …The training center and others like it run by the Homeland Security Department use as many as 15 million rounds every year, mostly on shooting ranges and in training exercises…” DHS uses more ammo than the entire military complex in ten years of war? And for training? Yah, sure- I’m really going to believe that one.
And Arthur cop says, “…We are being out-armed and out-manned in regard to these type of weapons day in and day out. So it is critical that we have access to superior fire power…” Uh-huh. That’s due to all the civilians with full-auto ‘assault’ rifles and body armor who’ve turned to a life of crime due to sequestration and they have to get fuel for their APC/MPACs.
There are lies and damned lies- and this government is filled with liars and damned liars. All of them involved with laws.
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nzkiwi
Mar. 23, 2013 at 12:46amhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gr4t5R2kNY0
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CHUCK9899
Mar. 23, 2013 at 1:54amAs some one who works for DHS. I fire 72 rds of hand gun, 5 shots for shotgun and around 50 rds of M4 a quarter so we do that 4 times a year. Round that to say 510 rds a year just to qualify. times that by 22,000 armed employees and it comes to what 11 million rounds. That doesn’t include any ammo to train or run drills. Its just what we have to shoot to keep our guns.
we used 2 magazines or 24 rounds this quarter to practice some drills. if everyone in my agency did that its 525,000 extra rounds just for that one quarter or 2 million if we did it for a year!!!
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00100111
Mar. 23, 2013 at 8:29pmI’m ok with cops not having enough ammo. Maybe now they’ll think before using their first resort: Shoot everyone.
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nzkiwi
Mar. 23, 2013 at 10:09pm@ Chuck
Given that usage of 2 million rounds per year – hell, let’s quadruple it, 8 million rounds per year – then that means that the DHS is purchasing enough ammunition to last for 200 years…
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nzkiwi
Mar. 23, 2013 at 10:15pm@ Chuck
Sorry, I didn’t count in all your usage figures. When I do so, it seems that the DHS is purchasing enough ammo for 120 years.
My maths abilities are awful…
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Sargeking
Mar. 22, 2013 at 1:50pmIf this police department had no back-up plan for ammo purchase, the local citizens are basically on their own for personal security. That comes at a time when the Dems want to disarm all of the law abiding citizens. The next months are going to be very interesting. I can’t look ahead over the next couple of years. I can’t be optimistic we have that much luxury of remaining time. Can you?
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JRook
Mar. 22, 2013 at 2:03pm“when the Dems want to disarm all of the law abiding citizens” Please show me one statement, other than from the NRA propaganda machine, where anyone in Congress is talking about disarming all law abiding citizens. I would say the marketing plan of the gun manufacturers, through their NRA PAC is working fine. Demand is up, prices are up and of course profits are up. See how well propaganda can work on the weak minded.
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upeopleneedtogetalife
Mar. 22, 2013 at 2:13pmPlease show me one statement, other than from the NRA propaganda machine, where anyone in Congress is talking about disarming all law abiding citizens.
Some elements of society are so naive.
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Max jones
Mar. 22, 2013 at 2:16pmHow can anybody have a back up plan for the federal government buying up all the ammo? How could anybody have thought this would happen? Its a big part of the second amendment abrogation. could not have been foreseen.
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RaydocX
Mar. 22, 2013 at 2:16pmJrook, go reread the Mao story, where your hear lies.
Washington and Oregon have both had legislators speak to attempts to ban all firearms or confiscate existing firearms. Barry disdainfully told the Professor who supports the Second Amendment repeatedly while he was a professor that he ‘didn’t believe people should have guns.’ NYC and Colorado have effectively made law abiding citizens criminals with the stroke of an unconstitutional pen. And Dianne Feinstein has publicly asserted she wants all guns to go away, standing on the body of (killed by a revolver) Harvey Milk in the same sickening way as Joe Biden is dancing on the bodies of the SandyHook children while spouting non facts, incorrect statistics, and demonstrating utter ignorance of firearms.
Again, for the slow trolls… no one says you have to purchase, own, carry, or use a firearm.
Stop pretending you or anyone has the right to say I cannot, so long as i am a law abiding citizen of the United States.
And when it happens that you hear that bump in the night… when you know you’re being followed walking alone at night… when you enter that bar or restaurant or even your home and things feel wrong… remember your convictions, then… you don’t want there to be firearms for you or your family’s protection. Guns are bad… the government is all the protection you need…
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Uechi
Mar. 22, 2013 at 2:19pmYou are on your own anyway. The police normally do a good job at protecting and serving but the reality is the only person that is responsible for your safety and the safety of your love ones is you. Buy a firearm if you don’t own one and learn how to use it safely. I do not nor will I ever rely on the police. As the statement goes ” When seconds count the police are minutes away”.
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Jhn'1
Mar. 22, 2013 at 2:47pmJROOK, you want one US Congress Democrat saying (admitting) they want an outright ban?
Sen Feinstein during a “60 Minutes” interview.
“If I could’ve gotten 51 votes in the Senate of the United States for an outright ban, picking up every one of them — Mr. and Mrs. America turn ‘em all in — I would have done it.”
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=blXkl9YVoHo&feature=player_embedded
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Dr Vel
Mar. 22, 2013 at 4:07pmJRook ““when the Dems want to disarm all of the law abiding citizens” Please show me one statement, other than from the NRA propaganda machine, where anyone in Congress is talking about disarming all law abiding citizens.”
Enough of your lying propaganda crap. Go spew it on hufpo. You have seen comments in the news hundreds of times stating just this right from the mouths of dozens of democrats in office. You have seen video clips of the wicked witch of the Ca. west state “Mr and Mrs America turn them all in”. You saw ‘that guy’ claim he had backdoor ways to disarm Americans of which the massive buy of ammo is a part. You have seen clips of the commies in appointed positions talk about brainwashing (propagandizing) the young to despise guns and you have read hundreds of articles of schools doing exactly that every day. All liars will end in hell and while you may not care about your future fate you are working with the forces of darkness to destroy the nation I was born in. You may not fear your future but I do care about what you and all like you are doing to the future of this nation.
If you love pol pot, mao, hitler and stalin so damn much why you go join them.
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Snowleopard {gallery of cat folks}
Mar. 22, 2013 at 1:50pmSimple plan for Homeland Security – have the only mass reserves of ammo and hand them out to the law departments who will swear allegiance to Obama and the Federal government and no longer to the Constitution and the people of the county, state or city they work in.
How loud will the outcry from law enforcement become when they no longer have funds or ammo stocks to draw upon? How long until they and the unions and the people terrorized by the Democrat propaganda machinery cry out for Obama to do something?
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JRook
Mar. 22, 2013 at 2:05pmWow how is that paranoia condition coming along. Time to switch meds.
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HOOT_OWL
Mar. 22, 2013 at 2:10pmWhy is the republican congress silent on this issue. ?
I find it hard to believe they don’t know what’s going on.
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Mil-Dot
Mar. 22, 2013 at 2:13pmDon’t worry Rook. You will get your chance to participate.
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Mil-Dot
Mar. 22, 2013 at 2:15pmHoot,
They do know what’s going on. They are in on it. They want to continue to live in the lap of luxury just as much as the commies do.
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upeopleneedtogetalife
Mar. 22, 2013 at 2:16pmHOOT_OWL
Posted on March 22, 2013 at 2:10pm
Why is the republican congress silent on this issue. ?
I find it hard to believe they don’t know what’s going on.
I concur but it’s up to us to call them and urge them to stay involved..
So again why does DHS need 1.6 Billion rounds of Ammo? I think we’ve went a little ape over security in the US.
Perhaps we should allow our local law enforcemnt to once again be in charge of securing our communities? Not the Federal Gov’t through DHS?
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landman1
Mar. 22, 2013 at 3:17pm‘ole Rook is going to get his chance to play in this game all right. He just doesn’t know whether he is going to be a hunter or the hunters prey just yet. Makes a big difference which team you wind up on Rook. Better figure it out soon partner.
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landman1
Mar. 22, 2013 at 3:40pm‘ole Rook will get to play in this game whether he wants to or not when the time comes…… Trouble is Rook, you don’t know if you’re gonna be a hunter or a hunters prey. Makes a hell of a difference you know. If I were you, I’d hedge my bet….get armed!
Bad to have to figure it out after it’s too late.
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ULII02
Mar. 22, 2013 at 1:49pmHave the Oklahoma PD carry one bullet in their front pocket. It worked for Barney Fife!
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All Pro
Mar. 22, 2013 at 1:48pm“Statistics would show that about one out of every five officers that are killed are killed with an assault-type rifle. We are being out-armed and out-manned in regard to these type of weapons day in and day out. So it is critical that we have access to superior fire power,” Arthur said.
FACT CHECK ON ISLE ONE PLEASE!
I seriously doubt that 20% of the officers are killed with scary looking semiautomatic rifles unless they are being killed by the members of the Mexican drug cartels that AG Holder armed..
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kdsoucy
Mar. 22, 2013 at 1:56pmDon’t trust anything Mr. Arthur says. I’m surprisd that the blaze didn’t GOOGLE his ame to get some backgroun on him before they used him in a credible manner.
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RaydocX
Mar. 22, 2013 at 2:07pmYou are right. Our local PD has lost 4 police in 10 years… 2 to one man with a handgun, and 2 in a helicopter that augered in. And no, it was not brought down by an AR as Jesse Jackson would have you believe.
The number of all deaths from rifles on an annual basis doesn’t back up his claim. But he is starting to complain, and to do that without putting his job at risk he has to toe the Left’s line on ‘assault weapons.’
Personally, i’m coming to view bills brought to the floor of the senate by Harry Reid or any Coloradan legislator as being an assault weapon.
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RaydocX
Mar. 22, 2013 at 3:27pmjust checked some stats…
in 2011, there were 323 murders with a rifle.
now i don’t have the # of LEO’s killed that year, but i’d be willing to bet my weekend pay the numbers dont equate to 20% dying by assault rifle.
the only way that statistic fits is if you claim that the presence of an AR platform alone means it is listed as the cause… and even then i would doubt the number… most AR platforms are owned by law abiding citizens… criminals go for the cheap handguns and (formerly) cheaper ammunition.
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Rogue
Mar. 22, 2013 at 1:47pmI’ll make a deal with law enforcement:
Pressure your unions to stand up to state and federal legislators who are passing all the ridiculous gun laws. When you use your power to stop and repeal these infringements on our 2A rights, I will gladly donate 90% of my personal stash of ammo to my local and state PD.
I applaud the Oathkeepers Sheriffs who stand with the public, but I have no sympathy for city,state, and Fed law enforcement who remain silent in this fight, while you happily enjoy exemption from any guns laws that are passed.
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Hotconchick
Mar. 24, 2013 at 11:14amIt’s not going to be local law enforcement coming to get your guns- it will be the UN or the some new Federal agency.
I don’t know where people get the idea cops are exempted from gun laws or get free ammo or firearms. The only exception to our gun laws is my husband can carry off duty concealed everywhere. Most cops are avid hunters, gun collectors and proponents of the second amendment. Some of you guys are going after the wrong people. I’m sorry you despise cops but you are going after the wrong people.
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TimPatriot
Mar. 22, 2013 at 1:46pm“Some departments are cutting amounts of bullets in guns” — something stinks about this story.
What kind of law enforcement agency would not fully load their service weapons?
Do they really expect us to believe that? Really? If the cops aren’t smart enough not to shoot up all their ammo in training— they shouldn’t be on patrol and there leadership should be immediately fired for gross mismanagement. This simply isn’t the case. Pure BS.
So….where did this story originate and what is its purpose? ;) Think!
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redfish52
Mar. 22, 2013 at 1:50pmYep…I agree….red flag here. Also it is my understanding that the ammo HS purchased was all hollow point….why would you waste high dollar ammo at the gun range. Never mind I forgot who I was talking about….
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RaydocX
Mar. 22, 2013 at 1:54pmthe barney fife school of law enforcement.
i agree… they may curtail training, but no cop on the line would be shorting their magazines… that sort of statement is the ‘buff’ on the spin political cops want to put on this… not really contradicting their political handlers with the ‘guns are bad… we don’t need more than 7 bullets’ myth while beginning to complain that in reality the good guys DO need bullets, and Uncle Sam’s behavior is making getting them difficult at all levels below DHS, NWS, and Social Security (Federal Department) heads…
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GroundZero is Nuclear Demolition x3
Mar. 22, 2013 at 2:14pmMy sentiments exactly, whats the problem they can’t use the same ammo from one day to the next?
How come I don’t get to train that much? Hollow points for target practice, WTF.
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Mil-Dot
Mar. 22, 2013 at 4:35pmI agree Tim. That is a crock. Somebody is doing some lying.
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226crimsontrace
Mar. 22, 2013 at 1:44pmFrom what I read, all those cops need is a double barrel shotgun, there is still ammo out there for those
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nonofmybiznez
Mar. 22, 2013 at 1:43pmWelcome to the club, now they know how we citizens feel.
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Joisey
Mar. 22, 2013 at 1:43pmAnd if these local police forces asked DHS for some of their ammo, I wonder what the answer would be? Is the DHS Ammo Blockade intended for local police too?
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Deborah
Mar. 22, 2013 at 2:08pmBingo!! The centralization of police power.
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kaydeebeau
Mar. 22, 2013 at 1:43pmWhy would they use hollow points as training rounds? As I recall – the 1.6 B rounds were hollow point ammo – not a cost effective training round…..I don’t waste them at the range why would the gov’t? Oh wait – I forgot they are always generous with other people’s money
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RaydocX
Mar. 22, 2013 at 1:51pmyou are exactly correct… but the majority of legislators are not sufficiently well educated regarding firearms to notice that, and to protect their aire of authority they could not stoop to ask.
Even if DHS provides statements the pretend they need that many rounds for training purposes (and most of the employees don’t have to expend thousands of rounds a year for maintenence of certification… competetive shooters don’t get into ‘thousands of rounds’ but instead 2 or 4 thousand rounds), they are clearly at least part of the cause of a national shortage, and are spending our tax dollars unwisely in spending i am sure government rate (read higher… remember $200 toliet seats) for more expensive rounds than would be necessary for their purpose.
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carhouse
Mar. 22, 2013 at 2:14pmHollow points are not allowed to be used in International Warfare.
these rounds are for use in the former US
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GuruMeditation
Mar. 22, 2013 at 1:40pmDefund DHS!
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CatB
Mar. 22, 2013 at 1:46pmLetter that I just sent to both my Senators and Rep in the House.
Dear __________:
You represent me; and as my representative, I would like to know why the Department of Homeland Security is stocking up on ammunition and buying guns and tanks . Since border patrol agents are not allowed to shoot illegals and known drug dealers coming across the border, who do they expect to shoot ??
I would like you to look into this immediately and stop these purchases .We could save a ton of money this way and put my mind at ease. This is of upmost concern .
Please get back to me ASAP .
Thank You
Your Constituent,
_________
Feel free to make a copy, and changes you wish, and send to your Congresspeople .. at House dot gov , and Senate dot gov. (easy to search and find them if you don’t know)
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GuruMeditation
Mar. 22, 2013 at 1:46pmand the White House. If the WH can’t submit a budget it must mean they need no money.
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Mil-Dot
Mar. 22, 2013 at 2:24pmCatB,
You mean to tell me that you REALLY don’t know the answer to your question? What do you expect your representative to say? “Yep, all those bullets are for killing you conservatives”.
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Popp40
Mar. 22, 2013 at 2:26pm@CATB….I just sent that to my Congressman and both Senators.
Thank you.
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CatB
Mar. 22, 2013 at 3:44pmOh I know the answer .. it is more retorical … I have a Dem Senator .. not to smart.
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Sargeking
Mar. 22, 2013 at 1:38pmSo now we have the most insidious and viral plan for gun control in American history. The government buys-up so much ammo the ordinary citizen can no longer find it. We can’t overcome this internal attack on fundamental American human rights until we can vote all of the Dems and Progressives (communists) out of office. This nation has never before faced greater danger. We know exactly who the enemy is. Dear God in Heaven, help us! We shall somehow endeavor to persevere!
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Mil-Dot
Mar. 22, 2013 at 1:55pmSarge,
Really? Still thinking that voting is going to get it done huh? Good luck with that my friend.
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Gargent_Furball
Mar. 22, 2013 at 1:37pmTime to stand up ans say This Is Enough. Take action.
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Oath-keeper
Mar. 22, 2013 at 1:35pmWell now add in the NDAA with its hidden provision stating the Government can confiscate private property and soon they will. Guns, then ammo. Oathkeepers.org
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Oath-keeper
Mar. 22, 2013 at 1:38pmWhere are all of the Patriot capitalist? Someone needs to open new ammo factory to sell ONLY to private citizens.
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Oath-keeper
Mar. 22, 2013 at 1:46pmThis is a response today from Canadian ammo company, tell me if there is not something going on with our Government directly causing shortages.
We are on hold shipping to the US right now. We had some problems with US Customs and Border Protection and ATF last week stopping all of our shipments. You need to get a Form 6 approved by ATF in order to import ammunition. Apparently, in box 10 of this form, you have to write “for personal use”. Once approved(takes 4-6 weeks), it is good for 1 year. We are going to get a link to the form later today. I can send you the link if we do get it. I am not sure if there is a charge for this application or not.
SINCERELY,
Debbie Sedore-Walton
Administrative Assistant
Aim Projectiles/Alchemy Extrusions
23 Chapple St
Hamilton, ON L8L 8K7
905-297-7911
1-866-979-7911
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Janet056
Mar. 22, 2013 at 1:34pmJust smile and say: Thanks Lord Obama for screwing us royally….
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RaydocX
Mar. 22, 2013 at 1:31pmApparently the LAPD has more than enough, considering they poured 100+ rounds into those newspaper women’s truck while chasing the ex cop…
training is vitally important, but when the citizen does not have enough for their training, i find i am less sympathetic that LEO’s are having the same issues.
When is a GOP legislator going to stand up and DEMAND an accounting from the manufacturers as to where these rounds are going… I say the manufacturers, since DHS has already refused to answer.
Honestly, they should Zero DHS budget until answers are provided without reluctance… And those contracts into which DHS has entered should be nullified. i suspect we’d suddenly have a glut of not just ammunition, but AR platforms, as well… who knows what else.
Lacking that, i wonder why some intrepid journalist is not printing the location of the DHS storage caches… they have to be considered dangers to the surrounding citizens after all, if individual gun owners warranted being published on the front page…
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woodyee
Mar. 22, 2013 at 1:34pmWell put, Doc!
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Mil-Dot
Mar. 22, 2013 at 1:37pmSomebody knows where it is stored. Anybody that knows where this stuff is better speak up, because if we find you and know you held out, it will not be a good day. Choose sides wisely my friends.
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226crimsontrace
Mar. 22, 2013 at 1:40pmMyself, I have plenty of ammo, dozens and dozens of full magazines, and shelves bowing from the weight. But with a shortage, I am not out every weekend using it up. Did the chief walk in the armory one day and say “Golly gee, were outta ammo”. Or were cops walking out the door with it all day long, either to bring home or to practice? Either way, very poor job of inventory maintenance.
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RaydocX
Mar. 22, 2013 at 1:40pmthnx Wood… and not an irregardless in the bit!
happy Friday! ; )
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termyt
Mar. 22, 2013 at 1:48pmHaving ammo is good, but if you can’t replace it, how do you train?
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Snowleopard {gallery of cat folks}
Mar. 22, 2013 at 1:54pmThere is more to the ammo purchases than just DHS, do not forget that many Departments among the feds have been buying massive amounts of ammo in the last couple of years; this is in addition to them having their own SWAT forces and such.
The facts are clear to me, Obama has his own private army and police force ready to go at a moments notice; and the first targets will be the Congress, State leaders and governors followed by anyone deemed capable of rallying the armed forces to the side of freedom fighters.
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RaydocX
Mar. 22, 2013 at 1:59pm@Termyt…
it would be expensive for you or i, but big departments have shoot houses… some project film onto paper or cloth so you can shoot safely through it, but the same effect can be obtained with ‘snap cap’ cartridges that don’t actually fire, or in the real high end sims with cartridges that shoot a laser each time the trigger is pulled.
it doesn’t replicate recoil, but the whole stress and move and shoot situation can still be created.
of course, that raises concerns about the training now so effective in getting all soldiers and LEOs to shoot, and the targets of civilians that some say are being used to desensitize the killing of people whose only crime is standing up for their freedom…
i have heard the arguements about any person possibly being a perp, and know they aren’t all like the fool form colorado who was killed yesterday, but asking just what they are training for is always worthwhile.
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Popp40
Mar. 22, 2013 at 2:40pm@Snowleapard….remember Obama said he wanted a “civilivan” force just as strong as our military. The DHS is nothing more than his “civilian” army.
I just hope there are enough people in his “civilian” army who will be on the right side and will do the right thing when it comes time and will follow the Constitution and not a man. After all the left has infiltrated the military (who takes an oath to the Constitution, not to a man)…..lets just hope the same is true for his “civilian” army.
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ArmedAndReallyPissed
Mar. 22, 2013 at 1:29pmGee…….I wonder if Homeland Security has any Ammo ? ( Sarcasm off )
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Mil-Dot
Mar. 22, 2013 at 1:34pmWe need to find out just where they are stockpiling it.
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Popp40
Mar. 22, 2013 at 2:43pmTime for the Blaze to make history again…..they need to have a real investigative reporter break the story and tell us where the stock piles are!
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woodyee
Mar. 22, 2013 at 1:28pm“Statistics would show that about one out of every five officers that are killed are killed with an assault-type rifle.”
Typical political mud. So then, whats the real problem – 4 out of 5 officers killed are killed with?
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Mil-Dot
Mar. 22, 2013 at 1:26pmAttention, all you active duty mils with access to Hellfire and TOW missiles. Be on the lookout for white MRAPS on the move. Do not seek to communicate. Fire at will. Over and out.
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RaydocX
Mar. 22, 2013 at 1:25pmand it’s not John Q Public doing all of the purchasing!
Well… indirectly, since Janet is buying billions of rounds with our tax dollars.
@Cavallo, you’re right, but EPA and other regulation nazis wouldn’t let you begin production of any amount to counter the attempted monopoly on bullets being waged by Uncle Sam…
our best bet is for Argentina or other arms makers to begin running container ships to LA and Miami and Houston for distribution to the retailers throughout the nation…
it’s stayed bad long enough i’ve decided to spend more and get whatever rounds i can find… regardless of the reassuring statements by Hornady, this is not merely a ‘public demand has exhausted supply’ situation.
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Mil-Dot
Mar. 22, 2013 at 1:24pmThey can have all the bullets and armored trucks and drones they want. They have to find people to acutally man them. What, are they going to get inner city punks or progs to do the dirty work against Sheriffs, patriot militias, constitutionalist cops and veterans, not to mention those in the armed forces that will be on our side? Good luck with that. I know whose side I will be on.
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226crimsontrace
Mar. 22, 2013 at 1:47pmMIL_DOT
Dude, I sure hope you are right, but there are a lot of stupid people who will do stupid stuff for a few bucks
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Detroit paperboy
Mar. 22, 2013 at 1:24pmWe are witnessing the complete takeover of this once great nation by outright COMMUNISTS…..both parties are in on it ! The sooner we realize it, the sooner we can save our children and grandchildren…Do you really think John Boehner and Mitch McConnell are gona save us ????GET REAL….THEY ARE 2 sides of the SAME COIN….PERIOD.
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Bonnieblue2A
Mar. 22, 2013 at 1:19pmCNS news broke this story first. The Blaze should be giving them credit.
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ArmedAndReallyPissed
Mar. 22, 2013 at 1:30pmThanks for the Info………….Not.
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Cavallo
Mar. 22, 2013 at 1:18pmSounds like a good time to open a munitions factory. Is there also a shortage of raw brass? What about smokeless powder and lead? Which State would be easiest to open such an endeavor?
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circleDwagons
Mar. 22, 2013 at 1:43pmWhy aren’t manufactures producing more product? I would think that these companies would be running 24/7.
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Cavallo
Mar. 22, 2013 at 4:24pmImagine the jobs that could be created.. machinists, janitors, managers, accountants, truck drivers, dock workers, chemists, administrative assistants, salesmen, etc
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