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This State Could Be the First to Mandate Insurance Companies Pay for Abortions

This State Could Be the First to Mandate Insurance Companies Pay for Abortions

Abortion rights supporters hold a rally at the Capitol on Monday, Feb. 18, 2013, in Olympia, Wash. The rally was in support of a measure that would require most insurers in Washington state to cover abortion. (AP)

OLYMPIA, Wash. (AP) — In 1970, Washington became the first – and remains the only – state in the country to legalize elective abortions by a popular vote.

A generation later, and 40 years removed from the landmark United States Supreme Court Roe v. Wade ruling that extended abortion access nationwide, Washington is once again poised to stand out.

With 21 states having adopted bans or severe restrictions on insurance companies from paying for abortions, Washington is alone in seriously considering legislation mandating the opposite.

The Reproductive Parity Act, as supporters call it, would require insurers in Washington state who cover maternity care – which all insurers must do – to also pay for abortions.

The bill passed the state House earlier this month by a vote of 53-43, though it faces an uncertain future in the Senate. (A similar bill in the New York state Assembly has been introduced each session for over a decade but has never received a public hearing.)

“This is a core value for Washingtonians,” said Melanie Smith, a lobbyist for NARAL Pro-Choice Washington. “We should protect it while we still have it and not leave access to basic health care up to an insurance company.”

This State Could Be the First to Mandate Insurance Companies Pay for Abortions

Gov. Jay Inslee speaks to abortion rights supporters at a rally at the Capitol on Monday, Feb. 18, 2013, in Olympia, Wash. The rally was in support of a measure that would require most insurers in Washington state to cover abortion. (AP)

The proximate cause of Washington state’s measure is the federal Affordable Care Act. Thanks to language in it pushed by congressional Republicans, insurers selling their plans on the state exchanges taking effect next year will have to segregate the premiums they collect for abortion coverage.

In addition to that built-in disincentive to insuring abortion, the law also invites states to enact stricter rules of their own. Thus far, 16 states have followed suit, barring or restricting insurance companies on their exchanges from covering the procedure. Three of those states are joining the five that have barred or limited all insurers from covering most abortions since the early 1980′s.

Supporters of Washington state’s proposed abortion insurance mandate are careful to stress that it wouldn’t lead to a dramatic uptick in abortions or require carriers with a religious bent to cover the procedure. They also note that a pair of federal plans that will be sold on all 50 state exchanges will be barred from covering elective abortions.

“It’s not expanding abortion coverage,” said Democratic Rep. Eileen Cody of West Seattle, the bill’s primary sponsor. “It’s ensuring the rights of women to get what they’re paying for now and to continue their freedom of choice.”

Opponents counter that the measure would require businesses and individuals to pay for abortion coverage they’d rather not have.

“Washington state would be the only state in the country that would force employers to pay for abortion,” said Peggy O’Ban, spokeswoman for Human Life of Washington.

If passed, she said, it would amount to “the first conscience coercion act in American history.”

Its passage, however, is not assured.

Proponents of the measure say they have the votes they need in the state Senate, but it’s not clear that Senate leaders will allow it to get to the floor.

Ironically, the man bill supporters will likely blame if it fails to get a vote counts himself as a proud backer of the measure.

Sen. Rodney Tom of Medina, a fiscal conservative and social moderate, and one other like-minded Democrat crossed party lines to caucus with Republicans in December, handing a one-vote majority to the GOP. Seizing power for the first time in nearly a decade, elated Senate Republicans reciprocated by installing Tom as Majority Leader.

Last month, Tom addressed about 250 advocates rallying for the measure’s passage on the state Capitol steps.

“I’m down here making sure that my 17-year-old daughter has the kind of protections that we need in Washington state and that all of our kids have those same kinds of protections,” Tom said to cheers.

Moments later, Gov. Jay Inslee, a Democrat and fellow bill supporter, delivered a not-so-subtle challenge to Tom’s political will.

Washington state “deserves a vote in the state Senate on the Reproductive Parity Act,” Inslee said. “We are going to insist that we are not going to let anybody close the door to democracy in this state.”

Another irony: though the bill has proved to be among the most hotly contested of the session, its broader impact if passed may be less than sweeping.

For one thing, most abortions are paid for out-of-pocket. According to the Guttmacher Institute, only 12 percent of abortions nationwide are paid for by private insurers, with 20 percent footed by Medicaid.

For another, because most abortions cost less than a live birth – the procedure typically runs about $500, though late-term abortions are far more expensive – insurers may be disinclined to stop covering them.

At present, all major insurers in Washington state cover abortions, and Cody, the bill’s sponsor, said she knows of no carrier with plans to change. Insurers new to Washington state on its exchange may be tempted to adopt different policies, she said.

No matter its immediate impact, said Elizabeth Nash, states issues manager with the Guttmacher Institute, the bill’s passage would be a watershed event.

“It would be a model for other states to follow,” she said.

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Comments (178)

  • wilbstal
    Posted on March 23, 2013 at 1:58pm

    God will catch up with this Evil guy

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    • ChildOfTheKing
      Posted on March 23, 2013 at 2:20pm

      The Bible regards a fetus is the same as a child. The following are some scriptures that show that God relates to the unborn in a personal manner:
      In Psalm 139:16, the psalmist says concerning God, “Your eyes saw my unformed body.”
      In Job 31:15 – “Did not He who made me in the womb make him? Did not the same one form us both within our mothers?”
      In Job 10:8-11 we read a poetic description affirming God’s hand in our creation: “Your hands formed me and made me altogether. . . You have clothed me with flesh, and have knit me together with bones and sinews.”
      Psalm 78:5-6 reveals God’s concern over “the children yet to be born.”
      Here are some more scriptures that show that abortion is wrong, that God has plans for people even before they are born:
      Jeremiah 1:5 – “Before I formed you in the womb I knew you, before you were born I set you apart,
      appointed you as a prophet to the nations.”
      Galatians 1:15-16a – “But when He who set me apart, even from my mother’s womb and called me through His grace, was pleased to reveal His son in me, that I might preach Him among the Gentiles.”
      Isaiah 49:1,5a – “Listen to me, O Islands, and pay attention you peoples from afar. The Lord called me from the womb, from the body of my mother He named me. And now says the Lord, who formed me from the womb to be His servant . . . ”
      Judges 13:3 – The angel of the Lord appeared to her, “you are sterile and childless, but you are going to conceive and have a son.”

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    • michael48
      Posted on March 23, 2013 at 2:25pm

      washington…another place eat up with Kali-fornicators….they desroyed paradise now they’re bringing thier filth to a neighborhood near you….be warned…these twits are absolutely indoctrinated, braindead dem-wits…ie; boxer/piglosi/fakestein…..(D) = delusion run wild…

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    • 13th Imam
      Posted on March 23, 2013 at 2:44pm

      Why don’t they extend these murders to anytime after birth also. After all, that’s all those two nice boys in GA saw to.

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    • busterpuddles
      Posted on March 23, 2013 at 3:11pm

      It took more than just one person to have passed this bill. They don’t see it now, but they will be held responsible during their ‘divine appointment’.

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    • jcldwl
      Posted on March 23, 2013 at 4:58pm

      And North Dakota just outlawed abortions. Good for North Dakota.

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    • ConstitunalAmerican
      Posted on March 23, 2013 at 5:01pm

      Gov. Jay Inslee speaks to abortion rights supporters at a rally at the Capitol. Do you deaf and blind women really believes he cares one twit about you and your rights?? He wants to be re-elected to make the big dollars and enjoy the entitlements from your tax money to enjoy his life to the fullest, not yours.
      Now you can be the abortion capital of the country! That’s a big achievement isn’t it? Sure makes you feel better as a person, now that your innocent babies are being tortured and murdered with your consent.

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    • OlefromMN
      Posted on March 23, 2013 at 5:14pm

      The evil guy will catch up to God eventually and not like the response.

      I truly wonder how somebody can be so empty in the soul department. I am told I should pray for people like Jay Inslee but find it nearly impossible.

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    • kenboo1
      Posted on March 23, 2013 at 5:21pm

      Sure… Why not??? Insurance companies provide financial protection for mistakes right???? So if you have a daughter, you should be able to buy a repo rider… Obviously I am talking about a Reproductive rider that would cover your daughter’s abortion should she need one/want one… This would only affect daughters because the female has all the rights… They have the right over their body and they have the right to choose life or death… Therefore it stands to reason they should bear all the financial responsibility… I shouldn’t have to cover it: 1) too old 2) Vasectomy 3) I keep my pickle in my pocket…

      http://www.repeal17.net

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    • Bluebonnet
      Posted on March 23, 2013 at 5:35pm

      Yup! Evil does have a way of catching up with those who mandate such wicked things.
      Yup! There’s a place for people who do these wicked things. God help you all to change your ways.

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    • The_Jerk
      Posted on March 23, 2013 at 5:52pm

      Is everything better with Bluebonnet on it?

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    • Look4DBigPicture
      Posted on March 23, 2013 at 6:30pm

      These people have no respect for human life and are willing to sacrifice their children for their own selfish desires. They are evil, Evil, EVIL!!!!

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    • softunderbelly
      Posted on March 23, 2013 at 9:00pm

      This is a “core” value? What a horribly mixed up world she lives in.

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    • PATTY HENRY
      Posted on March 23, 2013 at 9:03pm

      YOU HORRID PEOPLE !!! YOU dare to demand that your tax payers pay to MURDER innocent children???!!! HOW do women get pregnant 99% of the time anyway? Having Sex without being married…. they use ABORTION as BIRTH CONTROL because they are either too damned lazy or cheap to try to protect themselves. (IF that is not true, then we have a lot of RAPERS on the loose out there, helped in large part by the ABORTION MILL known as PLANNED PARENTHOOD who refuse to report under aged Pregnancies).
      DAMNIT WASHINGTON STATE WOMEN!!! IF you live in that State and YOU don’t get your self out and speak up then you can answer to GOD for that. There are a bunch of fanatical lesbian/code pinko type hysterical women there who have been lied to since the day they were born BY PEOPLE WHO WANT TO DESTROY THIS COUNTRY and these dim-wits are easy fodder for them!!!
      IT is not a CHOICE. IT is a BABY. YOU do not have the right over the BABY in your body, YOU had the choice BEFORE the baby got there in 99% of the cases and YOU KNOW IT.
      MARANATHA.

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    • Proverbs17-12NLT
      Posted on March 23, 2013 at 10:15pm

      Misery loves company, Sad to see all those Baby Murderers hiding behind their pain of the mistake they know they made.

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      Proverbs17-12NLT  
    • Grey Eagle
      Posted on March 23, 2013 at 10:15pm

      This Governor and Legislature would force insurance to pay for murdering babies? What the hell is wrong with the people in this state. Despicable.

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    • JohnofOregon
      Posted on March 23, 2013 at 11:08pm

      Abortion IS a core value of the democrat party. In fact, reading the platform it looks like abortion is the main value of the democrat party.

      All those Catholics out there who vote for a democrat are knowingly voting to finance and promote abortion.

      You cannot play “wiggle room” games with faith. As John Paul two wrote, a vote for those who promote abortion are the same as the person who performs it (I am paraphrasing)

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    • Trigus
      Posted on March 24, 2013 at 12:19am

      If you do not see that the end is near, then you are Blind. This is Satan’s last hooray. We can not stop this train wreck, All we can do is ease the blow.

      The Government and your Community Leaders promote Hate to keep the Country divided and easier to control.

      Only you can make this Once Great Nation, Great Again!!

      2013 American Patriot Spring, Who will you Stand with?

      The distinction between Races is no more. I Am Not (insert race,) I Am An American!!!

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    • rambosharley
      Posted on March 24, 2013 at 4:53am

      The Financial forecast of this country is bleak! So lets talk about everything else! SMH

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    • David-FL
      Posted on March 24, 2013 at 9:30am

      @ChildoftheKing

      Great Post!

      In Christ,

      David-FL

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    • Jim in Houston
      Posted on March 24, 2013 at 10:57am

      Can’t wait to see all the insurance companies pull out of this abomination of a state. The home of Bill Gates who is spending $100,000 to develop the next generation condom.

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    • paperpushermj
      Posted on March 24, 2013 at 11:53am

      As long as these citizens think there is no financial cost to them they’ll see no limits to their Self perceived good deeds. Let their Insurance Carrier charge them $100 dollars more per Mo and lets see how many change their position.

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    • James
      Posted on March 24, 2013 at 1:11pm

      Then Insurers should move out this state Washington!

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      James  
    • James
      Posted on March 24, 2013 at 1:17pm

      God Bless North Dakota!

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      James  
    • A_CALL_TO_CONSCIENCE
      Posted on March 24, 2013 at 2:13pm

      Well, that’s what the “state” does. Puts a gun to your head and makes you do things.

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      A_CALL_TO_CONSCIENCE  
    • vaman
      Posted on March 25, 2013 at 8:39am

      This is the real world, the bible and it’s stories are of no relevance.

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      vaman  
  • tankyjo
    Posted on March 23, 2013 at 1:55pm

    It’s a “core value”? To deny fundamental rights? What happens when the anarchists decide to abort you, WA? Could, with the support of the ACLU, become a legal, state funded bounty hunt? Is that not the logical “progression”? (intentional word choice}

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    • ChildOfTheKing
      Posted on March 23, 2013 at 2:16pm

      Abortion is only a right given by MAN. God does not give this right, IF you follow His Son Jesus and actually, FOLLOW HIM.

      IF you believe in God, then you must believe that He creates ALL things (the sperm and ovum). Therefore, to destroy any living human thing that He creates, is MURDER. I personally believe that God breathes a SOUL INTO A LIVING HUMAN BEING AT CONCEPTION. Even if you believe that the soul is not there UNTIL the delivery of the child, and you believe in abortion, it only means that you have MURDERED A FUTURE HUMAN BEING. You will still be held accountable on Judgment Day if you have or promote abortion.

      So, if you believe in abortion and you advocate it, I do hope God has mercy on your soul for you WILL be judged – NOT BY ME OR OTHERS, but BY THE WORD OF GOD.

      The person who denies the existence of Jesus has chosen to do so in spite of irrefutable evidence to the contrary from both historical and religious sources.

      He/She does this because he doesn’t want to be accountable for his behavior and thinks he/she can escape by denying the existenceof his judge, which is JESUS CHRIST AND GOD ALMIGHTY.

      He can not be influenced by logical debate because his position is an emotional one.

      SO THE QUESTION IS: are you willing to bet your eternal destiny on emotion instead of logic?

      http://www.christianet.com/abortionfacts/antiabortionbibleverses.htm

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    • realindependent
      Posted on March 24, 2013 at 11:10am

      States rights States Rights STATES RIGHTS….. HYDE amendment denies government funds used for abortions.

      But you guys hate the Government, might wanna rethink that stance…. lool

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  • mrunner
    Posted on March 23, 2013 at 1:52pm

    So, the strategy is to kill your future state population, while at the same time making it less attractive for companies to do business in your state by increasing their insurance costs. Sounds like a wonderful strategy (if you are a brain-dead liberal sheep).

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    • ConstitunalAmerican
      Posted on March 23, 2013 at 4:48pm

      Thanks to Obamacare, women will receive “limited” medical care, decided by a group of government appointed employees (similar to mom and the abortionist) who don’t care anything about you and consider you an inconvenience in life that needs to be removed. Got cancer, brain tumor, meningitis, pneumonia, aids, on drugs, too old, or need any other high cost medical care, then watch it, as Government has the ” Pro Choice Plan” also, for deciding the value and inconvenience of your life!!

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    • CatB
      Posted on March 23, 2013 at 8:20pm

      They have already changed the “rules” on mammograms, pap tests, and men’s PSA screenings .. this will mean more people will DIE .. yet abortion on DEMAND … that they want unrestricted … typical …

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    • Xanderson
      Posted on March 24, 2013 at 12:03am

      And remember Washington state legalized euthanasia years ago. Sounds like they prefer dead citizens to live ones or at least want to be able to decide who deserves life and who does not : (

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  • Lukabrassi
    Posted on March 23, 2013 at 1:44pm

    Abortion is between the receiver and God, the receiver should have to pay for it, not every insurance policy holder or tax payer.

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    • ChildOfTheKing
      Posted on March 23, 2013 at 2:25pm

      While I agree with your analogy that we cannot legislate morality, whenever a nation falls into moral sin and decay, the nation will fall, period. Therefore, it is much better if the govt stays out of moral affairs of men, such as gay marriage, abortion, and other Biblical moral issues.

      I don’t think you go far enough in your statement. It may be between the person and God, but it is also up to Americans as to whether we should pay for it or not. WE SHOULD NOT, IN ANY WAY, SHAPE OR FORM.

      WE SHOULD NOT BE LEGISLATING MORALITY. THAT IS UP TO THE INDIVIDUAL.

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    • Grover_Standpipe
      Posted on March 23, 2013 at 2:26pm

      Not getting an abortion is between the receiver and God, but every insurance policy holder and taxpayer has to help pay for the kid’s medical care, so we should pay for the abortions just because it’s cheaper.

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    • kaydeebeau
      Posted on March 24, 2013 at 7:02am

      All legislation is based on some form of “morality” – unfortunately most these days is based upon relative, shifting “standards” and opinions or whims of man rather than the unchanging principles of God.

      All legistlation makes a “value” judgement in an attempt to identify what is to be right and wrong or controlled by those in power. Don’t think so? Think about any “law” enacted by legislation. What is the purpose of it?

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  • BurntHills
    Posted on March 23, 2013 at 1:43pm

    maybe the day will come and we can pass laws to ‘Open Season’ & “kill ‘em where they stand” all the vile democrats who did this to America. the Godless obama-led democrats have now tried to spread their eternl guilt of ‘mass murder of the innocents’ onto everyone else in the nation

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    • Thatsitivehadenough
      Posted on March 24, 2013 at 7:54am

      I hate them too. Can’t cure that kind of sickness. Just because they are immoral, doesn’t give them the right to force others to be immoral too. Disgusting.

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    • Proverbs17-12NLT
      Posted on March 24, 2013 at 9:49am

      Burnthills- the season is getting close and democrats will not know what hit em.

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  • dosdelgados
    Posted on March 23, 2013 at 1:41pm

    You want to bleat about “choice” then it’s exactly that…your choice, you pay for it.

    Apparently whether or not to kill a human baby is the only “choice” we have. No choice of what kind of insurance to get, no choice of what we can eat at restaurants, no choice of curriculum for your children, no choice of funding the king and queen on their lavish vacations.

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    • geeman
      Posted on March 24, 2013 at 8:30am

      2-dels You got it right,killing unborn babies is not only a (choice) but a right.But how many hamburgers you eat, or how much salt you use, that can’t be trusted to individuals. These kook’s are truly brainwashed. They fight so hard for the right to kill babies it is amazingly evil.

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  • BurntHills
    Posted on March 23, 2013 at 1:39pm

    when will obama and his vile communists begin to push for Infanticide and teh Right to Murder Your Children up to 12 years old, or 15 years old, or 18 years old.

    oh wait, obama already voted ‘YES’ 3x in IL as senator FOR legalizing Infanticide: to be able to murder a child as it is being born full-term, by calling it “partial birth abortion”. after all, no one “should be punished with a baby” to quote obama.

    if obama is so comfortable having innocent helpless babies killed, why not (in his sociopath mind) allow obama to pass more laws allowing the murder of the American terminally ill, the handicapped, mentally ill, disabled, the elderly. oh wait, obamacare is doing just that. where have we heard that before. oh yeah, long ago it was called something else, “the T4 Program” and it was carried out: it killed an entire nation’s helpless & ill. a charismatic psychotic guy named Adolph thought it up.

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  • Seagal45
    Posted on March 23, 2013 at 1:39pm

    That may be a “core value” in western Washington but certainly not in eastern Washington. If this is their “core value” they have more serious problems.

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    • prov1
      Posted on March 23, 2013 at 3:34pm

      Seagal on the Seattle side of snoqualmie pass, it is full of liberal idiots. Inslee will some day be aborted by God and it won’t be with a hanger. May he spend his eternity in hell crucified by all the innocent aborted children of God

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  • sbenard
    Posted on March 23, 2013 at 1:34pm

    What do you want to bet the Washington will also be the first state to be nuked by North Korea?

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  • BuggiOlleo
    Posted on March 23, 2013 at 1:32pm

    Does birth control or condemns Not work? If anyone, besides a victim of violence, gets pregnant outside of protection…no one, but the carefree individuals.. sexually involved, should be footing any bill besides caring for the life they created. Life begins at conception and should be treated as such. If the cradle to grave welfare state dependency ends, children with a bleak future may actually have a chance at a good one. Choice matters..choose life.

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  • IMCHRISTIAN
    Posted on March 23, 2013 at 1:31pm

    Morals and ethics have been decaying from day to day and just mainly from the selfishness of individuals (includes politicians). Hope you are looking forward to judgement day.

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    • ChildOfTheKing
      Posted on March 23, 2013 at 2:31pm

      Judgment Day is ONLY for the unsaved. Those of us who have been saved by the saving grace and blood of Jesus Christ, will be busy with other things, like the dispensation of rewards and crowns, etc..
      We will not be allowed to see anyone (not written in the Book of Life) or anything at the Judgment bar of the Lamb. Personally, I DO NOT WANT TO SEE IT AS IT WILL BE A VERY SAD TIME, especially if you have family or friends who did not accept Jesus. Where is your compassion?

      THIS IS NOT SOMETHING TRUE CHRISTIANS/FOLLOWERS OF CHRIST WILL WANT TO ATTEND. You’d better check your own spirit and compassion for others. DOES IT MEASURE UP TO CHRIST?

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    • TH777
      Posted on March 24, 2013 at 12:03am

      @childoftheking: I think you’re going a little overboard with the criticism of Imchristian’s post. I think you read more into it than what was actually said.

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  • freedom888
    Posted on March 23, 2013 at 1:29pm

    They will ALL BURN in Hell for Eternity and then justice will be done …done by OUR GOD JESUS CHRIST of NAZARETH The GOD of ABRAHAM ….So BE IT Saith The LORD

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  • ares338
    Posted on March 23, 2013 at 1:19pm

    The abortion problem would be solved if young ladies would keep their knees together and young men would keep it zipped. I sympathize with rape cases but where do you draw the line? How about this…….the poor child is mentally deficient…it would be best to put him down. Like I asked…where DO you draw the line?

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    • Caniac Steve
      Posted on March 23, 2013 at 1:28pm

      i still own property &pay taxes on that property there in Washington state..but moved out 20 years ago..even then it got too liberal for me..even in the county my property is located tried to do and end around and try forcing Agenda 21 type of regulations..not laws..but regulations..we ;put a stop to it as we voted them all out of office..things are back to normal i am told..:D

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    • Grover_Standpipe
      Posted on March 23, 2013 at 2:31pm

      Your answer is that stupid and irresponsible people should be smart and responsible? I agree, and I’m all for telling them so, but experience shows us that they will never all listen. Since stupid and irresponsible people are exactly the ones who shouldn’t have kids, we should be doing everything we can to encourage them to make the right choice – abortion.

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  • jcizarter
    Posted on March 23, 2013 at 1:16pm

    Pregnancy is a choice. People know how to not get pregnant. HIV is a choice, people know how to avoid getting HIV. It will not be my choice to pay for these medical situations nor their prevention.

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    • catty
      Posted on March 23, 2013 at 2:35pm

      Do babies born with HIV have to put that on their wish list?

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    • Walkabout
      Posted on March 23, 2013 at 3:24pm

      Autism is correlated with pregnancy related diabetes. I mention this to pint out that the pregnancy clock for both males & females is not solely related to Down’s syndrome. That is the only thing you have to worry about is not if you are female & over 35 or especially 40.

      To my Sandra Fluke represents a lifestyle choice of hedonism. Life even in a industrial society where we are not affected by famine like a century ago is deadly serious. The best time to get pregnant is maybe 18 to 30 and that is fall all the kids. But liberals treat this as adolescent play time. I spent a good hour looking up an article about the war in the womb between babies and mothers & how it affects autism. Unfortunately, I did not find the article in my search of Discover magazine articles. One has to wonder how more vicious (unconsciously so) this war in the womb is at age say 42 than say 22.

      Now autism is not a single disease but a whole spectrum & is very complicated. But is is correlated with age & nutrition (like gestational diabetes). Is Sandra Fluke (age 30) going to wait another 10 years? Is she going to recommend bacchanals until the latter 1/3rd of reproductive life until giving casual consideration of having the perfect child?

      I believe in birth control as does the Roman Catholic church (although their methods are rather more limited), but Planned Parenthood vacuums & hypodermic needles of death are not it.

      Abortion as birth control. What a crock!

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  • Mapache
    Posted on March 23, 2013 at 1:13pm

    If I were pro-life and living in Washington State I would move….It is bad enough that abortion has been made legal but now the STATE is mandating complicity in the murder of innocents.

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    • sbenard
      Posted on March 23, 2013 at 1:39pm

      Once the Lot family leaves, the fire and brimstone can commence.

      Gen 19:24-25
      Then the LORD rained upon Sodom and upon Gomorrah brimstone and fire from the LORD out of heaven;
      And he overthrew those cities, and all the plain, and all the inhabitants of the cities, and that which grew upon the ground.

      …and the idiots then wonder why insurance rates skyrocket!

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  • neverending
    Posted on March 23, 2013 at 1:08pm

    Knew this was just around the corner – and now watch it spread and then 5 – 4 – 3 – 2 – 1 – what so called conservative will step to the plate and justify it and will go the same route all that immorality goes.

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  • Cavallo
    Posted on March 23, 2013 at 1:00pm

    Told you so..
    …they will soon be requiring Catholic hospitals to perform abortions.
    Likely they will use Medicare and Medicaid as threats.
    If you do not perform abortions in your hospital we will not reimburse any medicare or medicaid patients. They will force you to choose between faith and money, the question is.. which master does the church serve?

    Other employers may just drop insurance all together, or go out of business.
    Then they will raise the penalty to make it cost prohibative to not have insurance.. choose going out of business to your faith.

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    • Mapache
      Posted on March 23, 2013 at 1:14pm

      Do not underestimate Pope Francis. He would order all Catholic Hospitals closed before abortions are performed. I would rather not have ANY health care available to me and my kids than to be complicit in the murder of children.

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    • gyro
      Posted on March 23, 2013 at 1:15pm

      bingo

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  • IMCHRISTIAN
    Posted on March 23, 2013 at 12:56pm

    A supplement should be added for each individual want and then the individual should pay for themselves. Each policyholder should understand each policy before buying.

    To a lot of us conception is the first development and on to natural death. one cell starts the development and continues growing to birth and development goes on growing to getting bigger and learning more at each stage of life. We don’t kill at age one because they aren’t as developed as a ten year old and so on. God Bless each cell in our body and peace of mind be with you all.

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  • Janet056
    Posted on March 23, 2013 at 12:55pm

    This is old news to us……and I’d refuse….

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  • media-bias-steals-elections
    Posted on March 23, 2013 at 12:49pm

    This is not a water shed event, State Legislatures and the US Congress can bake it illegal to terminate pregnancies, nothing it is written in stone. It’s cheaper than a live birth you say? It would be cheaper to just give every male in your state a couple of tubes of KY jelly, why are we expected to pay for the decisions of your women?

    Women are stupid to have abortions? Or women are stupid to pick their partners without any thought at all? Thank you Church of Scientology, Hollywood, and by the way, we will never pay your stupid insurance premiums – when its time for us to go, we got a choice too?

    Don’t expect us to pay for your retirements in the future?

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  • carl_in_ohio
    Posted on March 23, 2013 at 12:43pm

    Abortion is a sin. Period.
    Women have rights, but so do the unborn!
    Are we so blind??

    No good will come from this legalized action.
    Maybe insurance companies will take a stance and not do business in Washington State.

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    • The_Jerk
      Posted on March 23, 2013 at 12:47pm

      We need the earthquake on the west coast. It’s long overdue. Wash this place, and the trash in California, out into the ocean.

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    • Elena2010
      Posted on March 23, 2013 at 12:50pm

      Yes, we are blind! The founding fathers never intended we should be godless, only that the state not interfere w/religious rights. In becoming godless, we have forfeited God’s protection. He hates human sacrifice and will throw down the civilization that practices it. Abortion IS human sacrifice! Our days are numbered as a civilization. We will be thrown down by a people more wicked than we — islam will punish us and rule us w/an iron hand.

      On NARAL’s illogic: What’s next, mandating rhinoplasty as a “basic” right to health care? Sex change operations can’t be far behind as a “basic” necessity.

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    • Bullitt2008
      Posted on March 23, 2013 at 5:39pm

      If the Progressive Socialist Liberal Democrats had their way, abortion would be allowed up to the end of the 3rd trimester. As in the day before your due date, like thy do in Canada & China.

      If medical insurance companies take a stance, they will be vilified and called evil by the left. That is if an insurance company will pick moral principle over the almighty dollar.

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  • MDECKER
    Posted on March 23, 2013 at 12:41pm

    I have a choice to decide what car I can buy but I don’t expect my next door neighbor to pay for it. These people are lazy, self-centered and very short sighted.

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  • JEANNIEMAC
    Posted on March 23, 2013 at 12:40pm

    If women would just say “no”, there would be no conceptions. Also, men could control themselves and not let lust control them.
    But women continue to practice sexual bulimia, where they binge on sex and purge the baby. Men like abortions because they can have sex and not have to pay child support for eighteen years.

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    • Grover_Standpipe
      Posted on March 23, 2013 at 2:35pm

      If people didn’t smoke or eat bad food or sit around all day without getting any exercise there would be less need for health care of all kinds. You might not want to advance that kind of argument unless you’re sure you have no bad habits that somebody else might resent paying for.

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    • ScottG-CO
      Posted on March 23, 2013 at 3:00pm

      Hey, Grover, just out of curiosity……..how’s all that tobacco settlement money being handled by the states? THAT money was SUPPOSED to take care of the smokers- as THEY paid that tax money- right?

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  • TRONINTHEMORNING
    Posted on March 23, 2013 at 12:30pm

    “Days of Noah” seem to be here. Go check out http://www.newsbusters.org and see the Melissa Perry video. Unbelievable yet there it is.

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    • RJJinGadsden
      Posted on March 23, 2013 at 1:12pm

      TRON, I occasionally switch to BSNBC to spot check it and have watched her a few times. She is one sick person in my opinion.

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    • TRONINTHEMORNING
      Posted on March 23, 2013 at 2:13pm

      Oh, yeah; I hit MSNBC all the time; great material for my radio show! {: And so is mediamatters.org. They despise me over there but I do love to make comments. Nice to share truth with people bewildered by lies and misinformation. Who knows, some may come out of their Obama-worshipping fog.

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  • Bonnieblue2A
    Posted on March 23, 2013 at 12:29pm

    So now every person who has health insurance must pay for the murder of innocent life in the state of Washington? This is just horrible!

    Statism is the cancer of Satan.

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    • gyro
      Posted on March 23, 2013 at 1:16pm

      So now every person who has health insurance must pay for the murder of innocent life in the state of Washington? ———— seems so

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