CNN host Piers Morgan on Wednesday made good on his offer to have conservative personality Larry Elder on his show to debate the George Zimmerman trial, Rachel Jeantel and race relations in the United States. The exchange was just as confrontational and explosive as you might expect.
Elder told Morgan that his interview with Zimmerman trial witness Rachel Jeantel was terrible as he “condescendingly” tried to convince her that she was a “victim.”
“This is a young lady who didn’t apply herself, a 19 year old who is still in high school. Instead of saying, ‘Young lady, take this as an opportunity to take stock of your life,’ you treated her like she was a victim. And that’s how you’re doing this whole thing about race and racism,” Elder said.
He went on to point out that there were 7,000 murders last year of black people, almost all of which were committed by blacks. Elder also said there have been 480 blacks killed in Chicago alone and 75 percent of the cases have gone unsolved.
“Where are the cameras, where are the shows?” Elder asked Morgan. “It’s outrageous to act as if black America should fear some non-black guy stalking some black kid at night. The likelihood of a black person being killed by a non-black person is extremely remote, which is why this became a big national issue in the first place.”
Morgan said he agreed with Elder about the unacceptable levels of violence in Chicago, though Elder doubted his sincerity and called him a “bleeding heart liberal.”
“Half of the murders in this country are committed by black people, even though black people are 12 percent of the population,” Elder countered. “This is why commonsensical people profile.”
Morgan asked his guest to “calm down,” but Elder just kept on tearing away at Morgan’s argument.
“I’m just bothered by how you are handling all this,” he said. “You think you are doing something for black people but you’re not. You’re making black people feel as if they are under siege and it’s not true, it’s an outrage!”
Morgan later asked Elder if he felt that Jeantel was “stupid,” to which Elder reminded the CNN host that he used the word “stupid.”
However, Elder did tell Morgan he thought he was “stupid” for trying to convince black people that racism is still a huge issue in present day America.
Getting back to the details of the Zimmerman case, Elder said he doesn’t know anyone who would have actually filed charges in the case due to the lack of probable cause in the first place. Morgan disagreed, calling it “wrong” that Zimmerman is getting away with no punishment.
“He’s a marked man!” Elder replied. “He will never have a moment of peace! He’s killed somebody, morally he’ll have to deal with that.”
Morgan countered by saying that Zimmerman has it “easy” compared to Trayvon Martin, who is dead.
Elder later scolded Morgan for treating “black people like children” and told him he should be “ashamed” of himself.
Elder concluded by preaching the importance of personal responsibility, particularly within the black community.
“As if [the Zimmerman case] somehow is some sort of indictment of America and black people should look over their shoulders every night and act as if a white guy is going to jump out of a bush and get them. It’s outrageous,” he said. “Hard work wins. Get an education, don’t pay attention to negative people, stay focused and you’ll be OK in America. That’s why most of the people in the world want to come here, that’s why you want to come here, Piers.”
“Thank you, Larry Elder,” Morgan said.