Megyn Kelly clashed last night with Mikey Weinstein, president of the Military Religious Freedom Foundation (MRFF), a church-state separatist group, over the inclusion of God in the U.S. Air Force Academy’s honor oath.
The debate surrounds reports that officials are specifically considering removing the line “so help me God” after Weinstein’s group complained about its inclusion.
The honor code currently reads, “We will not lie, steal or cheat nor tolerate among us anyone who does. Furthermore, I resolve to do my duty and live honorably, so help me God.”
While Weinstein argued that this line in the oath should be stuck because it violates the U.S. Constitution and church-state separatism, Kelly asked why it simply can’t be made optional.
“So why not just say to the cadets, if you don’t want to say ‘so help me God’ at the end of it you don’t have to say it, that’s good enough?,” she asked.
Weinstein skirted directly answering the question and charged that the oath violates the Establishment Clause as well another portion of the Constitution — clause three, article six. He said this latter portion of the document ”says we will never have a religion test for any position in the federal government.”
Kelly, though, wasn’t convinced by his explanation.
“With all due respect, Mikey, you’re not answering my question. My question is, why can’t they just opt-out?” she said.
“It’s like saying why don’t you just opt out of not robbing a bank, because robbing a bank violates the law,” Weinstein shot back. “Let me say it again in words of one syllable — it violates, that’s three syllables, the law.”
When Kelly reminded him that presidents and vice-presidents also take the oath that invokes God’s name, the discussion heated up.
With the chatter elevating a bit, the host said, “Mikey, chill. Chill. It’s okay, I’m just asking you a question.”
Watch the clash, below:
The Air Force is continuing to review options for dealing with complaints surrounding the oath.