Megyn Kelly battled Rep. Frank Pallone (D-N.J.) over President Barack Obama’s promise that all Americans would be able keep their health care plans under Obamacare, a claim that has proven to be false. While some Democratic lawmakers have admitted the president should have been more clear about the regulations, Obama and other administration officials are blaming insurance companies for causing what is predicted to be as many as 10 million Americans to lose their individual plans.
Rep. Pallone made the latter argument, telling Kelly that insurance companies got “caught” selling “lousy” plans that offered little coverage at a high cost. Under Obamacare, the companies will now offer what he says are better plans at an “affordable price.”
“But that’s only partially true,” Kelly argued. “Some of the insurance companies said, ‘alright I’m going to cancel the policies,’ because that happens in the insurance market. But many, many other policies…are being canceled because the regulations imposed on them by Obamacare left them with no choice.”
“That is absolutely not true,” Pallone shot back.
Kelly reminded the congressman that HHS Secretary Kathleen Sebelius herself admitted any insurance plan that went up by as much as $5 would not be eligible to be “grandfathered” in due to Obamacare regulations. She played the soundbite just to emphasize her point.
“The bottom line is, if you are selling a lousy policy at a price that is too high, nobody is going to buy it. And so they are canceling these policies because they know people won’t buy them. It’s a competitive marketplace, that’s the problem,” Pallone said, never addressing Sebelius’ remark.
“But they were buying them,” Kelly replied sharply. “There were 15 million people buying them…”
“But they won’t buy them anymore when they have a better alternative–” he began.
“Thanks to you! Why do you get to decide what’s lousy? Why can’t the American people say, ‘It’s lousy for you, for me, I like it,’” Kelly said.
The Democrat then claimed that Obamacare’s regulations on insurance companies represent “capitalism,” offering the American people better “alternative” with better insurance plans at a better price.
When Kelly again pressed the New Jersey congressman on Obama’s broken promise that all Americans would be able to keep their plans, Pallone said “you can’t sell it, no one is going to buy it.”
Visibly frustrated, Kelly threw her hands in the air, annoyed by her guest’s refusal to address her point.
Kelly was ready to end the interview when Pallone tried to argue that Obamacare is a “capitalist private market,” which set the TV host off.
“The capitalist private market is controlled by laws, including one called Obamacare, which imposed a bunch of regulations on them with which they must now comply, sir,” Kelly said mockingly.
“You can’t sell the policy if nobody is going to buy it because it’s lousy,” Pallone repeated yet again.
“But 15 million people did buy it! They bought it, and they were told they can keep it and now they can’t. And I gotta go, period,” Kelly concluded.
After ending the interview, a flustered Kelly told her viewers: “I tried.”