Footage of rancher Cliven Bundy surfaced Thursday showing that the 67-year-old rancher did indeed make controversial statements about “the Negro” and whether blacks might be “better off as slaves, picking cotton.”

“I want to tell you one more thing I know about the Negro,” Bundy can be heard saying in the video, “and in front of that government house the door was usually open and the older people and the kids — and there is always at least a half a dozen people sitting on the porch — they didn’t have nothing to do. They didn’t have nothing for their kids to do. They didn’t have nothing for their young girls to do.”

“And because they were basically on government subsidy, so now what do they do?” he continues. “They abort their young children, they put their young men in jail, because they never learned how to pick cotton. And I’ve often wondered, are they better off as slaves, picking cotton and having a family life and doing things, or are they better off under government subsidy? They didn’t get no more freedom. They got less freedom.”

Bundy‘s comments, which were first reported by the New York Times, were made during a news conference on Saturday that “drew one reporter and one photographer” in which the rancher discussed the larger issue of people becoming overdependent on government assistance.

Referring to past injustices perpetrated on certain minority groups, the rancher said America has progressed “quite a bit” until now.

“We sure don’t want to go back,” Bundy said. “We sure don’t want these colored people to go back to that point. We sure don’t want these Mexican people to go back to that point. And we can make a difference right now by taking care of some of these bureaucracies and do it in a peaceful way.”

After news of Bundy’s racial comments made headlines Thursday, leading some of Bundy’s most prominent Republican lawmaker supporters to disavow his statements, Bundy took to the radio to clarify his remarks.

“You know, what I said [was] ‘I’m wondering,’” the rancher said during interview on the Peter Schiff Show. “And I know Glenn Beck, he has something on the Internet, or news, and he uses the word ‘wondering’ and when they come to me, I said, ‘That’s exactly what I said.’”

Bundy never responded to TheBlaze’s request for comment.

“I said, ‘I’m wondering if [black people] are better off under government subsidy and their young women are having abortions and their young men are in jail and their older women and their children are sitting out on the cement porch without nothing to do,” he said.

“You know, I’m wondering are they happier now under this government subsidy system than they were when they were slaves and they was able to have their family structure together and the chickens and a garden and the people have something to do? And so, in my mind, I’m wondering: Are they better off being slaves in that sense or better off being slaves to the United States government in the sense of subsidy,” he continued, adding that his statements on Saturday were “right.”

“I am wondering,” he said.

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