Three years ago, Rabbi Irwin Kula expressed little interest in meeting Glenn Beck, but he did so at Beck’s request despite the protestations of his “New York liberal” friends.
The two have kept in touch over the years, but Kula said that on Thursday — after spending eight hours in Glenn Beck’s Dallas studios — something happened to make him feel his “body, mind, heart and soul were touched.”
“I actually don’t know what happened,” Kula explained on Glenn Beck’s radio program Friday. “And I’m a little bit scared, actually, because it’s one thing to, you know, teach your wisdom. It’s another thing to have your wisdom blown into you.”
Kula said he believes the labels Americans have given each other — whether they be communist, socialist, capitalist, liberal or libertarian — “block us from looking into someone’s eyes and saying, ‘What are their real fears, and what are their real hopes, and what is he really saying behind those words?'”
Kula said that everyone has come to their beliefs for a reason, and that there are very few people who are “100 percent bad.” So when we discuss or criticize the beliefs of one another, Kula said “what we have to do is confirm, first, the partial truth of what they’re saying, affirm who they are.”
Kula is still grappling with what he described as a profound experience on Thursday, admitting that he is “nervous” to go back to the notoriously liberal Upper West Side of New York City, where many only know the “cartoon character” Glenn Beck.
“Maybe it’s because every single person I interacted with in your office was so unbelievably human,” Kula told Beck. “That was no posturing, no positioning … people were genuinely nice. People said hello. I’ve been to TV studios and radio studios all over this country. Every single person from the electrician who’s building stuff in your place, to the person who’s building scaffolding, every single person says hello.”
“We can do this,” Kula said. “We have to somehow transcend these boxes and labels that are only products of our fear.”
Watch the complete interview, below.
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