Rep. Trey Gowdy (R-S.C.) grilled a University of Baltimore law professor during a Wednesday House hearing and made a compelling case as to why a special counsel is needed to investigate the IRS scandal. At one point, he even offered the professor some “free litigation advice” when he refused to answer one of his questions that seemed pretty straightforward.
Professor Charles Tiefer was brought in by Democrats as an expert to help determine whether the House Judiciary Committee should appoint a special counsel to investigate the IRS scandal. Tiefer, who previously served as solicitor and deputy general counsel of the U.S. House of Representatives, was also recently asked by Democrats to provide a statement on House Speaker John Boehner’s lawsuit against President Obama, which he called an “embarrassing loser.”
“Professor Tiefer, would you seat a juror who referred to your client as an obscene body part?” Gowdy asked, clearly referring to emails that show ex-IRS official Lois Lerner referring to conservatives as “assholes” and “crazies.”
Professor Tiefer didn’t say a word for about five seconds before he muttered, “I’m sorry?”
“Would you seat a juror, in a trial, who referred to your client as an obscene body part?” Gowdy repeated.
“I really have trouble to giving you an answer except that—“ Tiefer began before being interrupted by the South Carolina Republican.
“Well, then you would starve to death as a lawyer if you can’t answer that question, professor,” Gowdy said. “You would seriously consider seating a juror in a trial, a criminal trial, where your client was accused of a crime, if that juror had referred to your client as an obscene body part, you would struggle with whether or not to strike that juror?”
“Well, it doesn’t sound too good,” the professor responded.
“No, it’s not,” Gowdy responded. “And I’ll give you some free litigation advice: You’re going to want to use one of your strikes on that juror.”
Gowdy then asked the professor to imagine that he was a prosecutor and one of the jurors referred to the police as “terrorists” who might bring the country down. When asked if he would seat that juror, Tiefer said he didn’t see the connection between Gowdy’s line of questioning and the investigation into the IRS scandal.
“I’ll give you the connection!” Gowdy proclaimed. “Lois Lerner just referred to conservatives as an obscene body part and she said we were ‘crazies’ and likened us to terrorists!”
At this point, a Georgia congressman attempted to interrupt, but Gowdy was having none of it.
“You are not recognized!” he shouted, refusing to yield any time to his colleague.
Gowdy went on to make his case as to why he believes there is a clear conflict of interest at the U.S. Department of Justice regarding the IRS investigation and therefore a special counsel is needed to conduct an independent review of the targeting scandal.
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