3 NATO Protesters Facing Terror Charges After Allegedly Trying to Make Molotov Cocktails Ahead of Summit
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Protesters block traffic on Michigan Ave., as they march through the city during a demonstration Friday, May 18, 2012, ahead of this weekends' NATO summit in Chicago. Thousands of nurses and other protesters gathered for the noisy but largely peaceful demonstration with a broad spectrum of causes, from anti-war activists to Occupy protesters to a Chicago Women’s AIDS project. (AP Photo/Charles Rex Arbogast)
CHICAGO (The Blaze/AP) — Three men arrested earlier this week when police raided a Chicago apartment were being held on terrorism conspiracy charges Saturday stemming from allegations that they tried to make Molotov cocktails ahead of the NATO summit, but the first major dress rehearsal of this weekend’s large-scale protests was relatively peaceful.
Chicago police Lt. Kenneth Stoppa said the men face a bond hearing later Saturday on charges of conspiracy to commit terrorism, possession of an explosive or incendiary device and providing material support. Stoppa identified the men being held as Brian Church, 20, of Ft. Lauderdale, Fla.; Jared Chase, 24, of Keene, N.H.; and Brent Vincent Betterly, 24, of Oakland Park, Mass.
Their attorney, Sarah Gelsomino, told The Associated Press the men are “absolutely in shock and have no idea where these charges are coming from.”
Gelsomino — part of the National Lawyers Guild — told the Chicago Tribunethe men were simply NATO protesters who had beer-making equipment. She called the charges “an attempt to continue this intimidation campaign on activists. Charging these people who are here to peacefully protest against NATO for terrorism, when in reality the police have been terrorizing activists in Chicago, is absolutely outrageous.”
Six others also arrested Wednesday in the raid of the South Side apartment where they were staying were released Friday without charges being filed.
One of those protesters, Occupy activist Darrin Annussek of Philadelphia, denied there were Molotov cocktails in the apartment or that raw materials had been compiled to make them.
“No way,” Annussek said. “If I had seen anything that even resembled (a Molotov cocktail), I would have left.”
He claims that during 18 hours in custody, police never told him why he was arrested, read him his rights or allowed him to make a phone call. He said he remained handcuffed to a bench, even after asking to use a restroom.
“There were guards walking by making statements into the door along the lines of `hippie,’ `communist,” `pinko,’” a tired-looking Annussek told reporters just after his release.
Stoppa declined to elaborate on the case beyond confirming the charges.
Security has been high throughout the city in preparation for the summit, where delegations from about 60 countries, including 50 heads of state, will discuss the war in Afghanistan and European missile defense.
Among the pre-NATO protests planned for Saturday was a march on the home of Mayor Rahm Emanuel. The big show will be on Sunday, the start of the two-day NATO summit, when thousands of protesters are expected to march 2 1/2 miles from a band shell on Lake Michigan to the McCormick Place convention center, where delegates will be meeting.
An unidentified Chicago police officer removes himself from marching protesters on Michigan Ave., during a demonstration Friday, May 18 2012, ahead of this weekends' NATO summit in Chicago. (AP Photo/Charles Rex Arbogast)
On Friday, Chicago police on bicycles and foot tailed activists through the streets of the city, but ignored taunts and went out of their way to make as few arrests as possible. Protesters made a lot of noise and tried to evade police, but otherwise were relatively uneventful.
In all, police said there was a single arrest on a charge of aggravated battery of a police officer. Another man was briefly taken into custody, but he was released a short time later after being questioned by police, a department spokesman said.
Also, officers were seen trying to arrest a man who scaled a bridge tower and pulled down part of a NATO banner. Earlier, police handcuffed a man at the end of a noisy but largely peaceful rally organized by the nation’s largest nurses union.
From the police side of the protest line, it went largely how Chicago Police Superintendent Garry McCarthy envisioned it earlier this month when he said, “We’re not going to lock somebody up for dropping a banana peel.”
Michael Olstewski, 22, a recent music school graduate who came to Chicago from Atlanta, one of hundreds of protesters who took to the streets on Friday for a spontaneous march, said protesters may be waiting to make a big statement. He said he didn’t do anything to get arrested Friday, “but later in the week … If I feel it’s strategic and a powerful statement” he would provoke police into arresting him.
Nor were some protesters particularly surprised that police exhibited restraint even when they acted in ways that might have gotten them arrested – like the dozens of protesters who sat in the street for a short time before they got up and left after one of them, Micah Philbrook, grabbed a bullhorn and told them to leave.
In fact, at one point, on the bridge at Michigan Avenue, the gateway to the city’s famed shopping district, the Magnificent Mile, the number of officers swelled and officers appeared to be poised to forcibly remove the protesters from the area. Instead, they simply waited while the protesters left on their own.
Observers said that police showed restraint during the day that included the sight of hundreds of protesters breaking away from a large rally, march through the streets and taunt police as well as shouting about everything from bank bailouts to nuclear power.
“I think the police are handling themselves very well,” said Jennifer Lacy, a freelance videographer and editor from Chicago who took pictures of the spectacle with her cell phone. “It seems like they have it all organized, and it doesn’t seem their tempers are going to be easily flared. I think they‘re mindful we’re going to be on the world stage.”
But Ben Meyer, a Chicago lawyer who was observing the protest for the National Lawyers’ Guild, denounced what he called an excessive police presence at Friday’s rally, which included dozens of officers milling through the crowd and lining the perimeter, some of whom were videotaping the rally.
“It‘s frustrating the state needs to come out and show this much force for a nurses’ rally,” he said. “They have everyone from the superintendent on down here. It’s just ridiculous.”
Members of National Nurses United were joined by members of the Occupy movement, unions and veterans at the rally, where they demanded a “Robin Hood” tax on banks’ financial transactions. The event drew several thousand people and featured a performance by former Rage Against the Machine guitarist Tom Morello, an activist who has played at many Occupy events.
Deb Holmes, a nurse at a hospital in Worcester, Mass., said she was advocating for the tax but also protesting proposals to cut back nurses’ pensions.
“We‘ve worked 30 years for them and don’t want to get rid of them,” she said.
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Comments (90)
thriceconcussed
Posted on May 19, 2012 at 4:04pmAll the people on this sight who decry the protestors, and can’t look past the fact that a lot of them are occu-tards are deluded if they think this fascism won’t effect them. You “don’t anger the state” types remind me of the peasants that sat by and let 20% of the colonies bleed for independence.
Report Post »justangry
Posted on May 19, 2012 at 5:02pmYeah, I use the term “loyalist trash” often while on this site.
Report Post »vox_populi
Posted on May 19, 2012 at 7:45pmThe protesters were arrested without a warrant – remember, the NDAA says that anyone the State labels a “terrorist” essentially has no rights – and without any realistic proof that they were going to construct or utilize Molotov cocktails, other than a confiscated home-brewing kit.
If they can do it to the Left, they can do it to the Right. The State doesn’t give a sh*t about ideology.
Report Post »justangry
Posted on May 19, 2012 at 8:21pmPreaching to the chior, Vox. Why do all you lefties put up with this BS? You know Obama asked for them to put that provision in there, don’t you?
Report Post »The Gooch
Posted on May 19, 2012 at 8:58pmGood points. Don‘t wish upon others what you don’t want done to you.
Report Post »chicago76
Posted on May 19, 2012 at 10:09pmAgreed. These people may seem like trash but the same Nazi government that is after them will one day and is after you and me. Notice they are all white.
Report Post »chicago76
Posted on May 19, 2012 at 10:10pmVox your are so right. I am right and you are the first lefty who makes any sense.
Report Post »vox_populi
Posted on May 19, 2012 at 10:33pm“Preaching to the chior, Vox. Why do all you lefties put up with this BS? You know Obama asked for them to put that provision in there, don’t you?”
Yeah, we know. I‘ve noticed there’s a bit of a perception among the Right that the Left doesn‘t protest some of the decisions Obama’s made regarding civil liberties, the War on Terror, etc. It’s not really true. The average Democrat doesn’t make much noise, I guess, but the Radical Left has been making noise about this pretty much since day one. None of us want an all-powerful police State any more than you do.
It’s funny to think that you all probably have a lot more in common with the radicals than the liberals. Once you get past the cultural differences, I mean.
Report Post »justangry
Posted on May 20, 2012 at 3:02pm@Vox, Fair enough. I’m guilty of looking towards my liberal friends and their unwillingness to see it, along with so many folks here also unwilling to see it then applying what I see to everyone. So here we are divided, while the politicians are working well together to destroy everything this country was founded on. Both sides of the isle. If we were smart, we’d put aside our petty difference and make 2012 about restoring our rights. Nah, at least the Republican who supports this crap doesn’t eat dog….
Report Post »teebubba
Posted on May 19, 2012 at 3:32pmI think these people were on to something…Why keep the lawnmower gasoline in a 10 gallon can when you can store it in cases of used resealable glass liquor bottles…
Report Post »justangry
Posted on May 19, 2012 at 5:13pmCaught in the middle of who is right. The Chicago rag or all the other sources saying the police conviscated beer making equipment never mentioning gasoline.
Report Post »Smokey_Bojangles
Posted on May 19, 2012 at 3:11pmHR 347 and NDAA in the hands of Chicago. Still Love Allen West?
Report Post »justangry
Posted on May 19, 2012 at 1:59pmAnyone remember when GB was concerned about a “New World Order”? Now he’s shilling for it. Wonder who‘s holding a gun to his head or if he’s just worried about being Breitbarted in general.
Report Post »U.S. Navy Veteran
Posted on May 19, 2012 at 1:42pmOkay. Okay. Let’s try this again. Without all the name calling… There must be a way to deal effectively with the threat of terrorism, both foreign and domestic, without ordinary Americans being forced to surrender their freedoms and liberty. There. Is that better?
Report Post »justangry
Posted on May 19, 2012 at 1:55pmLOL, Blaze screeners? You can put “enemy” or “terrorism” close to the term “domestic” without getting censored.
Report Post »4thGenerationWarrior
Posted on May 19, 2012 at 7:01pmUnfortnately, if the government, any government- federal, state, local- is the organization doing the combating against terrorism the people certainly must have some liberties curtailed to achieve the mission in a safe and expeditious manner. The only alternative, which will never happen in today’s world, the individual American who could or would pick up a rifle, effect a citizen’s arrest upon a suspected terrorist- this is the only way. It essentially robs the powerbrokers and politicians of their power. Back in the colonial days, pre-Revolution it was the average Joe that combated the threat from within (the British and the Loyalists). There was no state, local or federal appartus to combat the threat. It was the individual who picked up a rifle, or responded to call to duty, as did George Washington- to serve as General. It is the same today- that need to effectively combat terrorism WITHOUT the government. But the government has made a thing a felony, punishable by many years in prison.
Report Post »Unfortunately, even though you and I may be vigilant today, we still must bow to the terrorism task forces in place. The French rose up during WWII with a counterinsurrgency using espionage and counterespionage to combat the threat that Germany posed within their borders- THIS is the best legal way for US to fight the GWOT here at home- the average Joe…using 4th Generation Warfare- Asymmetrical methods of combat…this is how it is done!
justangry
Posted on May 19, 2012 at 8:24pm@4th Generation, I’d rather take my chances with the terrorists. What‘s great about security if we don’t get to keep our freedom?
Report Post »TheBurningTruth
Posted on May 19, 2012 at 12:55pmThroughout this whole “Occupy” mess I’ve been reminded of the 60s. There was a “protest industry” that got started with protesting the Vietnam War and spread (almost like the corporate conglomarates they hate) into everything. One part fractured off believing it could create a revolution through physical terror attacks. They had all this propaganda about how terrible everything was in a democratic society and believed all they needed to do was “raise awareness” of the “better socialist” society.
After a couple of years of terrorist attacks, the average American wanted security far more than they wanted a terrorist based revolution (life wasn’t that bad!) which gave rise to a bunch of laws and federal edits restricting OUR freedoms with the goal of eliminating the terrorists. The average citizen accepted the loss of some freedom to eliminate the physical threat. In short, the terrorists trying to bring down the Republic created the start of a police state.
Fast forward to today, and what do we have with these laws permitting indefinite detention, legal authority to capture emails and electronic communications without court order, and the like. More government intrusion into OUR lives to “protect” us from these loons.
In a perverse sort of way, responding to the protesters with ever more restrictive laws means that they’re winning. As they’re all Progressive Liberal leftists, communists and marxists that believe in BIG government, that’s what they
Report Post »AxelPhantom
Posted on May 19, 2012 at 2:33pmGood observation!
Report Post »perry1980
Posted on May 19, 2012 at 12:39pmhey usefull idiots, if you are so proud of your protest why do you hide your ugly faces?
Report Post »hatchetjob
Posted on May 19, 2012 at 12:53pmIt might be the acne and HIV lesions.
Report Post »LeadNotFollow
Posted on May 19, 2012 at 12:37pm…
Report Post »There should be a law in the U.S. that states, protestors are not allowed to cover their faces.
You go from protestor to terrorist, when you cover your face.
Why do we allow this behavior? The patients are running the asylum.
It’s time to stop the madness.
EP46
Posted on May 19, 2012 at 5:43pmThe are serving a purpose….they are helping “those in power” bring about the destruction of America.
Report Post »Their future is the gulag and they are working harder for it than anything they have ever worked for in their lives.
chicago76
Posted on May 19, 2012 at 10:16pmWe should all be working hard to prevent them from being put in a Gulag dumass. Do you really think putting them away will be the end of it. NO! Putting you and I away will be the end of it.
Report Post »countrysideflair
Posted on May 19, 2012 at 12:11pmThank God for NDAA! Now any ‘terrorist’ or people that have a can of gasoline in their garage, bottles in their refrigerator, and old clothes can be arrested and detained. Can’t see that ever being abused…
Report Post »justangry
Posted on May 19, 2012 at 1:07pmEvidence of it being abused is right in front of us. What‘s startling is the evidence that there’s a good segment of Americans can’t see past the people they despise to see it.
Report Post »chicago76
Posted on May 19, 2012 at 10:18pmThey want us all to hate each other. The more we hate the more power they have.
Report Post »justangry
Posted on May 20, 2012 at 7:39pmThanks, Chicago for saying it. This is the one time I can remember where all Americans can actually unite to end this crap, but everyone is so easily distracted by meaningless crap like gay marriage.
Report Post »The Gooch
Posted on May 19, 2012 at 11:58amBefore we string these kids up, you have to consider that some dumb cop (or a bunch of dumb cops) stumbled upon some kids trying to make beer. It’s possible… we will have to wait and see. There is a helluva difference in the materials needed to make beer vs. those needed to make Molotov cocktails. If these kids have a bunch of rags and fuel about with no actual beer ingredients, well, nice try with your cute defense. Let’s get some more information first… but I‘m sure as hell not putting any stock into the lawyer’s words.
I want to hear and see some man on the street interviews. Those would be rich:
“What does the acronym NATO stand for?” Um… Neo American Tea Party Organizers? Yeah, that’s it dude. It’s bad, I know that.
“What is the purpose of NATO’s existence?” To confuse me and p!ss me off!
“What countries are members of NATO?” The bad ones… ya know, the ones that wanna take our jobs. Like, the guys who wanna blow stuff up… but not those other guys who blow stuff up.
“Why are you protesting against NATO?” Um…, it’s like, because they’re here, and I don‘t like stuff I don’t understand and I heard other people were doing it.
“Why are you stuffing a rag in your bottle of booze?” I’ve been advised by my attorney not to discuss this matter any further. I’m taking this 5th… and lighting it on fire because that’s my constitutional right to use fire in a public place.
Report Post »hidden_lion
Posted on May 19, 2012 at 5:57pmMaterials for molotov_
Report Post »half drunk bottle of 151 proof vodka or bacardi
or old completely drunk bottles of bacardi and some gasoline.
Allot of people have the materials to make these incendiaries in their house right now. When will the swat teams descend on the rest? Trumped up charges, all they have to do is wait until they try to use them and catch them while they are doing them, this preemptive arrest thing is getting out of hand. Don’t think too loud, the swat team will be beating your door down.
FromSeaToSea
Posted on May 19, 2012 at 11:46am“Two centuries ago our forefathers brought forth a new nation; now we must join with others to bring forth a NEW WORLD ORDER.“ ”Narrow notions of national sovereignty must not be permitted to curtail that obligation.” “To establish a NEW WORLD ORDER it is essential that mankind free itself from limitations of national prejudice. No one nation can any longer effectively maintain its processes of production and monetary systems without recognizing the necessity of collaborative regulation BY INTERNATIONAL AUTHORITIES.
Report Post »We call upon all nations to strengthen the United Nations and other institutions of WORLD ORDER!” ― The Declaration of INTERdependence — signed by 126 Senators & Representatives, Washington D.C. Jan. 30, 1976
yougottabekidding
Posted on May 19, 2012 at 12:02pm—– — and your socialist crap.
Report Post »In short it means I want everything, but want you to work for it for me.
jespasinthru
Posted on May 19, 2012 at 9:15pmThere is no such thing as “World Order”, and there never will be. Human cultures are far too diverse to tolerate a one-size-fits-all cultural agenda. They tried the “New World Order” thing in Europe when they created the Euro, and look at what a mess they made.
Report Post »“If you control the currency, then you control the populace.”
Oh, yeah? How did that work out for them?
Mark0331
Posted on May 19, 2012 at 11:35am“but later in the week … If I feel it’s strategic and a powerful statement” he would provoke police into arresting him….
Report Post »…………..that one statement sums up the sheer idiocy of these people…..just graduated, need a job, first thing I will do is go out and try and get arrested?…..When the cops tear gas you and truncheon your head, don’t go crying, your a big boy and can take it…I mean its what you asked for, isn’t it? I would think getting a job,any job, and being a decent citizen is a strong statement as well….but getting arrested is the priority of the day for these people….fools, the whole lot of ‘em….
yougottabekidding
Posted on May 19, 2012 at 11:58amI would love to see everyone of these cowards and their so called lawyers get the justice they deserve, especially the cowards with the face coverings. The police should step back and let the people that live there do their thing.
Report Post »The lawyers should be the first to go!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
justangry
Posted on May 19, 2012 at 1:24pm@Mark, I read a post that you were you a 20 year Marine, and have to ask if you think NATO is still the noble organization it was when it was established to thwart the Soviets?
Report Post »Mark0331
Posted on May 19, 2012 at 2:43pm@JUSTANGRY…..In reply to your question, is it a NOBLE orginazation, well it does enforce no fly zones in Libya for example…does do humanitarian missions in impoverished areas of the world etc…but like all institutions of man it has its problems…nothing run by men is perfect…Do I think the world is better off without NATO? I’d have to ask the countries that are too poor to protect themselves from neighboring aggressors {ie: Russia}….Do I believe man can give up his weapons and dreams of domination, sit around, spark it up and speak of peace and love…yes, for about a year, then reality takes over and man shows his ugly true colors….In case you have not noticed, Russia has been making some crazy moves lately in regards to its east Eurpoean neighbors….I am sure the Baltic states like having NATO and the US backing them….Should any coalition of countries usurp our Constitution and our Sovereignty Militarily…never….Is it Noble?..arguable….Is Russia still a threat?…Absolutely…NATO can be a ‘useful’ buffer if the entire world erupts into chaos…saves American Lives for a short while anyway…I think the UN is more dangerous than NATO…the UN is the real monster here…I like your posts by the way, we may not always agree, but you get people thinking/debating…outstanding.
Report Post »justangry
Posted on May 19, 2012 at 4:37pmAlright, man. I think NATO is the UN’s tool, but you could be right. And certainly Russia has been pulling some crazy crap lately. I don’t imagine Putin will help much in that regard either.
Report Post »Sharon Rose
Posted on May 19, 2012 at 11:00amThese idiots really need to get a life
Report Post »Buck Shane
Posted on May 19, 2012 at 11:50am@ TXPilot
Report Post »Eisenhower created NATO to save Western Europe from the Soviet Union.
There is no Soviet Union. Why is there a NATO?
That is not the point of the protests; they want anarchy, but it is a good question.
TXPilot
Posted on May 19, 2012 at 10:31amOk, they “tried” to make molotov cocktails????….Really??…..are they that hard to make? Bottle filled with gasoline, insert rag… Sorry, but now the government isn’t even trying to make up lies that we can believe. With all the lies, propaganda and contrived reality these days, I‘m starting to feel like I’m living in the movie “The Matrix”…..It’s becoming very apparent that most all of the news about supposed terrorists and/or their attacks and plots are just “false flag” lies made up or perpetrated by our own evil government.
Report Post »copatriots
Posted on May 19, 2012 at 10:45amThought the same thing, TX. These are also most likely Occu-idiots. They are being encouraged to do these kind of stunts.
I’m sure it was the drone that caught them before they could make their cocktails. sarc
Report Post »G-WHIZ
Posted on May 19, 2012 at 10:50amNooooo! They gave themwelves away, when after making them, they lit one and tried to drink it!
Report Post »lukerw
Posted on May 19, 2012 at 11:25amThe smell of Gasoline… will simply give them away!
Report Post »SgtB
Posted on May 19, 2012 at 11:54amI’m in agreement with TX on this one, and whether or not these people are part of the occupy movement is irrelevant because the enemy of my enemy is my friend. NATO and the UN are enemies to our sovereignty as a nation and we should not be in them or hosting their get togethers.
Report Post »justangry
Posted on May 19, 2012 at 12:12pmYeah this one stinks, but look at all the people who don’t see it. What’s really bugging me is the Blaze is now just another propaganda machine. I’ve seen the headline go from something like Cops raid activists in Chicago for beer equipment to this… Let’s face it, almost all of us have materials that can create a molotov cocktail in our homes for legitimate use, and we can now be carted off with no warrant before the next Tea Party rally and charged with the same thing.
Report Post »TXPilot
Posted on May 19, 2012 at 2:09pm@JUSTANGRY…..the story about police raiding a house to confiscate beer making equipment was something The Blaze didn’t even get half-right, since the police used that excuse in once instance.
The actual story, from infowars.com, as well as several other news outlets, was that the government thugs raided various homes in the Chicago area, because they contained people that the State, felt might cause problems (future crime) during the summit. These homes were raided without probable cause, and with no warrants signed by a judge. The people in question were denied their rights and as the slang goes, some of them were “disappeared”, and have not been heard from since.
Report Post »justangry
Posted on May 19, 2012 at 2:38pmYeah, I know TX, I was just comparing headlines from other sources to this one. There’s some terrible stuff happening, and I wonder if everyone who opposes surrendering our sovereignty to the UN will eventually disappear. I can’t believe this is actually happening in America and the media is silent or deceptive about it. The Blaze presents it as evil occupy terrorists were planning to do bad things to the NATO conference, and I don‘t believe that’s the case, or even the real issue. People are now disappearing for their beliefs, rights are apparently non-exsistent, yet people are swallowing the kool-aid that they somehow deserved it. All the media has to do now is associate someone with “Occupy” and everyone is fine with them being taken away before they commit a crime. Perhaps the was the whole purpose of the big money supporting the original movement in the first place. I don’t know, but it’s not sitting well with me at all.
Report Post »TIME_2_END_THE_PAUL_CAMPAIGN_IN_12
Posted on May 19, 2012 at 3:00pm“The actual story, from infowars.com,…”
“Infowars”… lol. All the paranoia that’s fit to print….
Report Post »Mark0331
Posted on May 19, 2012 at 3:18pmTXPILOT…JUSTANGRY….you guys make some good points regarding the over stepping of LEO’s and the trampling of our Rights…I do have one piece of advice though, these people are getting round up because of who they associate with, not necessarily what they are accused of…the real scary part of this whole situation is that we are being forced into secrecy and hiding activities and materials that even 10 years ago would have been perfectly legal….We, The People have to watch our 6 in regards to who we associate with and what we say in public…you know every one of us posting on here is a target…gauranteed….just keep your cards close to you vest and know who you are associating with…here in NJ we actually have a hotline to the DHS for people who think anyone is a terrorist…ads play all day on the radio..I call it 1 800 SNITCH…but people are scared and worried,and made that way deliberately by the powers that be…Stay Low if you know what I mean, and I think you both do.
Report Post »West Coast Patriot
Posted on May 19, 2012 at 3:58pmTime_2, You are just a bigot, you know this right? Your opinions are just hate spewing off your keyboard and you never have anything to say that adds any meaning to any discussion. All you do is bash people that you know support Ron Paul. You are just like many that were for one candidate, then switched to another, then another, which tells me you do not have thoughts of your own, but get all your thoughts from the media pundits. Whether Paul wins or not, we Paul supporters have principles in which we live by and our principles used to be the GOP’s principles, but the GOP has gone the way of big government, the same as liberals. But, we are re-shaping the party and soon it will be the GrandOldParty again.
Report Post »justangry
Posted on May 19, 2012 at 4:36pm@Time2, Yes there’s stuff on Infowars that I would consider paranoia, that’s why I usually wait until others pick up the story before I rush to any conclusions, as I’m sure TX does as well. In this case, I think paranoia is justified and the headline infowars and story match much closer to Drudge than the Blaze. You got to check all the sources these days to even come close to knowing the truth, and even then it’s a crap shoot. In this case, it was a clear case of government abusing it’s authority and ignoring our constitutional rights, and it is scary stuff.
Report Post »TIME_2_END_THE_PAUL_CAMPAIGN_IN_12
Posted on May 19, 2012 at 5:33pmLmao @ LEFTCOAST. Me a bigot? You had little or no argument to present before but don’t let me stop you with an even weaker whine session regarding your so-called conscience eh?
The Tea Party is in fact helping to re-shape the Party while the Ron Paul contingent of nihilistic neo-liberals do nothing but embarrass both the Tea Party and the GOP. Yeah that’s right… Paul is the Tea Party Grand Daddy… hmmmmmm. A Ron Paul money bomb on an anniversary does not a Tea Party Grand Daddy make.
Report Post »TIME_2_END_THE_PAUL_CAMPAIGN_IN_12
Posted on May 19, 2012 at 5:48pmJUST. The reasonable fella’ that you are should tell you that Infowars/Prison Planet along with the likes of Alex Jones et al, is not a reasonable source most of the time if ever, but you are correct that looking into many sources of information is the smart thing to do. I like Drudge too.
Report Post »justangry
Posted on May 19, 2012 at 8:36pm@Time2, Yeah it’s only a problem for people who just accept what they read, which we’re all somewhat guilty of. Some more so than others. Typically I just skim the headlines. If there’s something that interests me, I’ll read the article, then look elsewhere to try and disprove it. If I can‘t disprove what he’s saying, then I know he’s probably on to something. Besides most of the material is just taken from other sources. The Blaze does the same thing.
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Posted on May 19, 2012 at 8:43pmBTW, what is a Neo-Liberal?
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Posted on May 20, 2012 at 9:04amJUST. Here’s a good explaination for one as to why I use the term neo-liberal.
Ron Paul and the Neoliberal Reeducation Campaign http://spectator.org/archives/2011/08/23/ron-paul-and-the-neoliberal-re
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Posted on May 20, 2012 at 10:18amAlright Time2, I think the author has everything backwards, but we‘ll just leave it as we’re using different terms. Neoliberalism defined is basically a reponse to the big government policies of the Progressive Era. Rather, they’re new classical liberals and the two modern figures most associated with the movement are Ronald Reagan and Margaret Thatcher. The author of the piece accuses us of ignoring history, while advocating a foreign policy that has made empire after empire collapse from within throughout it.
Report Post »Snowleopard {gallery of cat folks}
Posted on May 19, 2012 at 10:27amAnd so it continues, they are making the usual activists claims of not being read their rights, not told their crimes they are charged with, and so forth. Nothing but leftist and anarchist loonacy at its usual intense levels.
Report Post »vtxphantom
Posted on May 19, 2012 at 10:25amTheir attorney, Sarah Gelsomino, has a law office in Chicago. Her bio and law office links are on the web. She has defended the Black Panthers, police brutality cases, etc. I have a feeling this is related to van Jones and Occupy movements. If any decent reported would dig a little bit, they could tie this up to Soros and obama too.
Report Post »NutterButter79
Posted on May 19, 2012 at 10:08amBetter be careful. If the NDAA goes through, they can lock up American citizens without cause. There are proposed laws meant to make it a felony to protest anywhere near a figure under Secret Service protection. Wake up! They are stripping away our freedoms.
Report Post »They play the Occupy crowd so that conservatives stay distracted.
Their next target will be Tea Party rallies. Just wait until they grab some one who has a permit to carry concealed. I guarantee that they will use it to make conservatives and the Tea Party look like terrorists.
You can’t cheer when Occupy has their 1st Amendment rights stripped away, and then cry when they start targeting conservatives.
I don’t care what you believe, you have a right to assemble and a right to free speech.You could be trying to convince people that lord Zog was coming to conquer the earth….looney tunes….yes….illegal? No.
Varying points of view is what makes America great. I like the fact that we don’t all have to believe the same thing, but we can go out and spread our message.
Tri-ox
Posted on May 19, 2012 at 9:55amThis is the carefully choreographed ‘obama 2012’ campaign in action.
Report Post »progoyim
Posted on May 19, 2012 at 9:47amWho in their right mind would want to host this event? Did Rob and Barack think they could control the mob?This is going to cost Chicago millions Camp David would been better
Report Post »Individualism
Posted on May 19, 2012 at 9:32ampeaceful protests yet always a few of them get made an example of and get arrested to invoke fear to the protestors.
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Posted on May 19, 2012 at 10:23amINDIV. I remember this one “peaceful protest” at the gates to Ft. Benning, GA regarding the old “School of the America’s” quite some years ago. The whole anti-war/anti-Military/anti-law enforcement/anti-government gang was there to include the beginnings of the current Ron Paul R3volution. It was not pretty sight when those “peaceful protesters” tried to get through the Main Gate. Do your ribs still smart from that experience?
Report Post »West Coast Patriot
Posted on May 19, 2012 at 4:15pmTime_2, You really are a clueless person aren’t you. The Ron Paul r3VOLution started in 2007 along with the Tea Party. Get your facts straight.
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Posted on May 19, 2012 at 5:40pmLmao @ LEFT once again. You better dig a wee bit deeper into the history of the present day anti-war movement and ALL the players…
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Posted on May 19, 2012 at 6:23pmLEFT. And let me clarify so I’m clear. Just because you presently call yourselves the “R3VOLUTION” and pick a particular time frame in which you say it became a reality… the reality is that many of the current players were involved in the anti-war/anti-Military/anti-government movement protesting with your brothers and sisters from the “other” left long before the “R3VOLUTION” moniker made it’s debut….
Report Post »West Coast Patriot
Posted on May 19, 2012 at 9:50pmTime_2, You really crack me up. Paul supporters are not anti-war, they are anti-uncanstitutional war, there is a difference, but you would not know about this as you seem to me to be anti-constitution.
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Posted on May 20, 2012 at 9:10amBS… LEFT. That’s about all I can say in regards to your last comment. The Ron Paul anti-war/anti-Military fringe right and the anti-war/anti-Military fringe left have very close ties and work in unison… and it’s NOT because of the Constitution and so-called illegal wars. You are, as always… disingenous in your comments and lacking of any deep thinking abilities beyond the basic Ron Paul commercials you regurgitate.
Report Post »mr.goodvibe
Posted on May 19, 2012 at 9:30amGood for CPD but is a molotov cocktail a terror weapon, I don,t know I guess it is how you use it, occutards.
Report Post »Mark0331
Posted on May 19, 2012 at 11:59amThe Molotov cocktail, also known as the petrol bomb, gasoline bomb, Molotov bomb, fire bottle, fire bomb, or simply Molotov, is a generic name used for a variety of improvised incendiary weapons. Due to the relative ease of production, they are frequently used by non-professionally equipped fighters and others who cannot afford, manufacture, or obtain hand grenades. They are primarily intended to set targets ablaze rather than instantly destroy them…
…………………….does that answer your query about it being a terror weapon?
Report Post »Want our country back
Posted on May 19, 2012 at 9:26ammen being held as Brian Church, 20, of Ft. Lauderdale, Fla.; Jared Chase, 24, of Keene, N.H.; and Brent Vincent Betterly, 24, of Oakland Park, Mass.
Report Post »Their attorney, Sarah Gelsomino, told The Associated Press the men are “absolutely in shock and have no idea where these charges are coming from.”
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Are they blonde????? 20 yr old MEN?????? I hope that they are SHOCKED into growing up…..appreciate and enjoy this country….
I can protest here and then I can go outside and enjoy my freedom.
I can protest in November by voting, then I can go outside and enjoy freedom (I hope)
Vote GOP2012, make your vote count
justangry
Posted on May 19, 2012 at 9:23amI have gasoline in my shed for the mower, various bottles of stuff that could be emptied, and rags and towels in the bathroom closet. Does this mean, I they can bust into my house, without a warrant, and accuse me of similar crimes? I don‘t believe I’m a terrorist, but under the current definition by the state… I guess I better stop buying coffee with cash…
Report Post »Southernguy
Posted on May 19, 2012 at 9:41amYep, lol
Report Post »starman70
Posted on May 19, 2012 at 9:16amGOOD WORK CHICAGO POLICE DEPARTMENT!!!!!!
rqd. lc
Report Post »Wolf
Posted on May 19, 2012 at 9:31amGestapo is alive and well in KUSA.
Report Post »BlackCrow
Posted on May 19, 2012 at 9:09amThose ignorant Flea Baggers probably have no more understanding of NATO, what they are and what they do than their knowledge of where Rush Limbaugh is.
Report Post »justangry
Posted on May 19, 2012 at 1:29pmI’m not a part of the occupy crowd, but I have nothing good to say about NATO. What do you like about it, and aren’t you concerned with globalization efforts that will undermind our Constitution?
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