39-Year-Old MSNBC Host: My Grandmother Was Lifelong ‘Slave,‘ God Is ’Pretty Pitiful’ To Let That Happen
- Posted on June 20, 2012 at 2:08pm by
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As the Blaze exclusively reported, MSNBC Host Melissa Harris-Perry has made some startling statements this week. Turns out the Tulane Professor was just getting started. As alternet and rawstory have already reported, Ms. Perry referenced her grandmother as being “enslaved” and “sold on a street corner in Richmond Virginia” in a recent speech. Perry says of her grandmother that she “never knew anything but slavery for herself.”
While the Blaze will not judge Ms. Perry’s personal family history, it should be noted that for the claim to be true, one’s grandparent must have been born around the 1860′s or earlier (think Emancipation Proclamation). According to her website, Ms. Perry herself was born in 1973 to a Black father and White mother. Stranger still, she seems to contradict her own story in this tweet:
Was she just being hyperbolic? Maybe made a mistake? Or is she just not telling the whole story? Whatever the reason, perhaps more disturbing than any slip-of-the-tongue about lineage was the harsh anti-God message behind the story. According to Perry, her “enslaved grandmother” believed in God. That belief was misplaced in Professor Perry’s opinionated hindsight. ”There was no empirical evidence that any being cared about her circumstances” Perry quipped:
“There was no empirical evidence that there was a loving God that had any power … I mean if there was a loving God He was pretty pitiful. Or if He was powerful He didn’t seem to love [my grandmother].”
Watch her stunning comments here:
Key quotes from MSNBC host Melissa Harris Perry:
- “We are just not a perfect people. We’re just not. We’re kind of like an adolescent country.”
- “And particularly for a country that became so dominant so quickly. That became so wealthy in the context of such inequality. That understood itself as standing on a shining hill. We are in our adolescents and we’re making a bit of a mess of it. [audience claps]“
- “Maybe it’s coming from people who are slaves? And Mormons. My white people were Mormons. My black people were slaves, everybody was basically after them. The Mormons got ejected out of Missouri and had to push hand carts across the American west…the black folks got enslaved for a couple of centuries.
- “I guess struggle doesn’t worry me…in the sense of being struggle itself. What I do know is that my enslaved grandmother who was sold on a street corner in Richmond, Virginia believed in God.”
- “Now I’m not asking you to believe in God, I’m asking you to think about this. This is a woman who never knew anything but slavery for herself. Never knew anything but slavery for everyone she had been related to.”
- “Never expected anything but slavery for all the people who she would be related to in the future. There was no empirical evidence that any being cared about her circumstances.”
- “There was no empirical evidence that there was a loving God that had any power…I mean if there was a loving God He was pretty pitiful. Or if He was powerful He didn’t seem to love her.“
- “I’m not asking you to believe in God or to accept any sort of supreme being, I’m asking you to think about the faith that is associated with the hope that is not necessarily rooted in the empirical realities that you see around you right at this moment.”
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Comments (163)
christos
Posted on June 20, 2012 at 5:25pm…Give Thanks to +JESUS+GOD+ in all things good & bad,,,the Bible says “you do not receive because you do not ask” are you asking & who are you Praying to…it Matters.
Report Post »AvengerK
Posted on June 20, 2012 at 5:45pmGod loved Harris Hyphen Perry’s grandmother enough to let her have grandchildren. Apparently that’s not blessing enough for Harris Hyphen Perry.
AvengerK
Posted on June 20, 2012 at 6:18pmLet me add…I would hazard a guess that Ms Harris Hyphen Perry also has a housekeeper like her Grandmother was. Likely the housekeeper’s name is Guadalupe or Maria. Is Lupe or Maria a slave also? Or does does this only work when you have the right kind of melanin in your skin?
Report Post »Thomas
Posted on June 20, 2012 at 6:25pmEmpirical is just another word for man‘s relative brain’s interpretations as if it was a good standard for determining reality. Nothing relative is objectively true or real. Anything that appears and then disappears so that the senses can measure it, is no more that illusion and those things that remain always is THE TRUTH (Reality).
Report Post »HowardSternIsABigot
Posted on June 20, 2012 at 7:19pmanytime someone says there is no empirical evidence about something, they havre no clue what that means or how it would apply. guaranteed.
Report Post »how about if blacks take the chip off their shoulder, dress for success, study hard, make themselves useful to society, and then see if they feel racists are out to get them.
or just put on your hoody, hide your face, show your underdrawers, and attack white peple in groups, break into their homes, asault them,,and maybe then see if people love having you around.
The Third Archon
Posted on June 20, 2012 at 5:23pm“That became so wealthy in the context of such inequality.”
Report Post »Actually, income inequality has gone up and down over America’s history–funnily enough, at our most prosperous times (in terms of GDP growth, GDP per capita, purchasing power parity of that GDP, etc.) during the mid-late 1950′s, income inequality was at its LOWEST. Of course, since then income inequality has climbed (sometimes faster, sometimes slower) to some of the highest levels in our history, comparable to the turn of the twentieth century.
AvengerK
Posted on June 20, 2012 at 6:13pmJealous THIRDY? Then get yourself in a position where you’re getting some “unequal” income yourself. What’s that? You want the government to hand it to you?
Report Post »The Third Archon
Posted on June 20, 2012 at 7:46pmNot jealous, just not stupid. As a student of economics and history, I know where this is going–this rising economic inequality is the primary REASON for the stagnation of the economy and its lackluster growth in the last have century to present or so. And that little growth it HAS experienced has only been felt by so small (10% perhaps) a proportion of the population, that for the VAST majority, the economy for all intents and purposes HASN’T grown at all–income at the median and below (and probably for some distance above as well) adjusted for inflation have basically remained the same since about the 70′s. In order to have experienced any real growth in terms of income purchasing power, i.e. in order to have enjoyed ANY benefit for being a part of this economy and contributing to its expansion, one must be within the top 20% of all incomes in the United States. This begs the question–why would, and should, we expect the great many to continue to do all the work to make the economy run, expand, and fuel it with their aggregate demand, when they see no return for the fruits of their labor, and in some cases actually a diminished purchasing power?
Report Post »The Third Archon
Posted on June 20, 2012 at 7:52pmThat being said the question of the utility, or increasing lack thereof for the overwhelming majority, of the economy is an irrelevant one in the face of the fact that the economy CANNOT continue down this path, even IF the majority are willing to try to make it work when they stand to gain nothing (and many stand to actually LOSE wealth) from its continued growth, they CANNOT continue to consume at the levels that the expanding economy does, and will increasingly require, them to consume at to sustain its size and growth. Capitalism, in short then, is a serpent consuming its own tail. It tends towards centralization of wealth, which has an inverse relationship to economic growth. Capitalism, through its own success at its intended purposes, cannot help but to destroy itself. This has nothing to do with the work of Leftists, though many of us would like to avert the messy and painful consequences such a result would have (and as always happens it would be felt most acutely by the majority who already have little if any share in the fruits of the economy, yet inevitably bear the brunt of its failures) is allowed to run its course naturally, it is nothing more than the inevitable consequence of the economic system we have found ourselves in as the result of an amalgamation of human decisions and institutions. As a Radical, I believe we have the power to change those decisions and institutions before it gets worse, but either way, capitalism’s end is inevitable.
Report Post »Steel
Posted on June 21, 2012 at 10:25amIn response to most of your comments, “It’s all a matter of faith”. You know, belief without proof. I believe, therefore God exists to me. If you choose to believe otherwise, I have no problem with that. I just would like to continue as I always have without having someone try to dissuade me from my beliefs. I give you respect. You should reciprocate. Does that fit with your concepts of a deity vis a vis a non-existent deity?
Report Post »Amarath01
Posted on June 22, 2012 at 9:28pm@ Third,
Really. Those are your arguments. i can disprove them with easy, they are so false at face value it will be a pleasure.
“this rising economic inequality is the primary REASON for the stagnation of the economy and its lackluster growth in the last have century to present or so”
So african tribes with ~ = income and perfect income equality but no resources, no to little division of labor, no to little capital and investment are growing their “economies” like mad. After all income equality = growth. Sorry but the two are not related. Also check your facts the earlier 40′s had the highest rate of growth right after the new deal had its self ended by the incoming representatives. look at some facts its pretty clear (within the last century, as a % we did better in previous centuries).
“This begs the question–why would, and should, we expect the great many to continue to do all the work to make the economy run, expand, and fuel it with their aggregate demand, when they see no return for the fruits of their labor, and in some cases actually a diminished purchasing power?”
Report Post »This begs the quest means that you stated your answer / supported your argument by stating it initially.
Well in the 70‘s you didn’t have i phones the internet, hdtv, cable etc. like we do. LIFE IS GETTING BETTER AND EASIER. FACT
The wealth has is relative to their worth in the production/value to others, if each work also comes with a pile of tax, obligations, etc from the gov they a
workinghard
Posted on June 20, 2012 at 5:16pmYeah, well, that same God gave you just enough talent as a journalist to qualify for a job on MSNBC. Now I realize it‘s on par with cleaning toilets at Fox News but it’s a start.
Report Post »doubleG469
Posted on June 20, 2012 at 5:28pmand by “slavery” she means her grandmother and relatives had to work for a living.
Report Post »AvengerK
Posted on June 20, 2012 at 5:48pmDOUBLEG..that‘s pretty much what I glean from Harris Hyphen Perry’s buffoonery..apparently her grandmother had to do unskilled work as some kind of domestic help and Hyphen Perry sees an honest day’s work as slavery. Apparently her grandmother should not have had to work for a living.
Report Post »AvengerK
Posted on June 20, 2012 at 6:21pmWORKINGHARD…what’s the bet Harris Hyphen Perry has a housekeeper or a maid just like her grandmother was? And that maid’s name is Guadalupe or Maria? Is Lupe or Maria a slave also?
Report Post »Now…does this make Harris Hyphen Perry a slave owner? Or is the “slave” tag only reserved for domestic help with the right amount of melanin in their skin?
The Third Archon
Posted on June 20, 2012 at 5:16pm“perhaps more disturbing than any slip-of-the-tongue about lineage was the harsh anti-God message behind the story”
Yes–noticing that God allowed the Holocaust, slavery, and COUNTLESS other acts of utter depravity to fall upon those who ostensibly believed in one of God’s various permutations claimed to exist and those who did not believe in any such thing in equal measure is FAR FAR WORSE than the actual ACTS of depravity themselves humans have, and do, visit(ed) upon one another with shocking frequency and cruelty.
Yup, your priorities are DEFINITELY in the right place.
Report Post »AvengerK
Posted on June 20, 2012 at 5:55pmTHIRDY…God’s not a referee or an umpire. he doesnt’ blow a whistle and tell us to stop. Unlike leftists he lets man suffer the consequences of his actions. He allows man a choice that’s all..everything else is man’s own doing.
He’s given us plenty of chances and lessons in the past. Sodom and Gomorrha, Noah and the flood, Pharao and Moses and the Exodus and finally Jesus‘ crucifixion and resurrection and the redemption of man’s sins. How many chances and lessons do you require champ? Slow learner?
Report Post »justavoter
Posted on June 20, 2012 at 5:15pmPerry says her grandmother was sold on a street corner in Virginia as a slave and all she knew was a world of slavery. If she is removed two generations from her grandmother and slavery ended in 1865 does that make Perry 113 years old? Does this mean that her audience believes everything that she says without question?
Report Post »moonlight on the bay
Posted on June 21, 2012 at 12:10amPerry has either left out a couple of “greats” before “grandmother” or thinks we are too stupid to realize slavery was over with by the time her GRANDMOTHER was living in Virginia. “Sold on a street corner in Richmond . . .” crazy! Now, I will agree, her grandmother CERTAINLY must have experienced plenty of bigotry in her day, but that was hardly slavery. I don‘t think it’s right for her to use the word slavery figuratively, if THAT’S what she was doing. Pretty insulting to those who actually WERE slaves.
Report Post »1956
Posted on June 20, 2012 at 5:10pmPerhaps she’s just forgotten to add all the “great-great-great-great-great”s in her dialogue. Either way… anyone with half a brain listening to what she’s said would know that her story AS TOLD cannot be true. Besides, I have had all kinds of crap happen to me in my life – but I do know there is still a GOD who IS and He loves me anyway.
Report Post »jakartaman
Posted on June 20, 2012 at 5:08pmMY great great Grandfather was a white Irish slave here in American
Report Post »What’s your point lady? skin color again?
You should all be shipped back to your beloved Africa.
You would not need to worry about discrimination, welfare, food stamps, affirmative action.
You could help the local Bros. with all your acquired skills
Black entertainers could have concerts for aids etc
It would be glorious!
RamonPreston
Posted on June 21, 2012 at 9:57pmPresident Monroe tried to send them back. The country of Liberia (meaning “Free”) was established for them. The capital of Liberia is Monrovia in his honor. They didn’t want to go back; just be a burden on this country.
Report Post »mikenleeds
Posted on June 20, 2012 at 5:08pmyour a bald -faced lying little witch , slavery has been over for 100 s of years so your grand mother did nt work at all just lived on welfare ,
Report Post »am a slave to government taxes to pay for your welfare programs so stop whining
ZengaPA65
Posted on June 20, 2012 at 5:06pmThe God in the Bible lets people go through some tough times. It’s your namby pamby Santa Claus in the sky version of American TV Jesus that is all love and gives everybody everything they want.
Report Post »The Third Archon
Posted on June 20, 2012 at 5:18pmIf God’s existence or non-existence has no tangible difference on human lives, then in what meaningful sense does God exist? What does it matter IF God exists, if it would not make any difference if God DIDN’T exist?
And if you would like to assert that God’s existence DOES make a tangible difference in the lives of at least SOME humans, then what is your evidence for making this claim? And why has this evidence not settled the debate over the existence and nature of God?
Report Post »mycomet123
Posted on June 20, 2012 at 5:41pm@ THE THIRD ARCHON, I believe in the existence of God. My belief in God gets me through difficult times in my life by giving me HOPE & inner PEACE through GRACES received by God. I feel that some people are expecting a “santa claus diety” who will takes away all NEGATIVITY from their lives. My God is a God of Love &self- sacrifice. I have found that the only source of true & lasting happiness comes from helping others by self sacrifice not by self absorbtion where everything is about me, myself & I, and when everything doesn’t go my way I would through my hands up in the air & state there is no God because he doesn’t cater to my every need!!!!!!!!
Report Post »AvengerK
Posted on June 20, 2012 at 6:00pmTHIRDY..you seem to be trying to impose some kind of referee or umpire role on God. Apparently he to blow a whistle when we hurt each other? Man has been given a choice. Follow God’s law or not.
Report Post »He deals with the results after your time on this plane of existence is up.
Is this just too much for you to process? Christians and Jews accept it this way..God’s way. You on the other need constant magic tricks and refereeing from God. He’s not in the magic trick business. He’s in the forgivness and redemption business.
AvengerK
Posted on June 20, 2012 at 6:03pmMYCOMET…Harris Hyphen Perry’s grandmother got to see grandchildren. what greater blessing is there than seeing your childrens’ children and even their children? But according to Harris Hyphen Perry, being domestic help and having a job through it, when you‘re not skilled to do anything else isn’t work, it’s slavery.
Report Post »Texasboy002
Posted on June 20, 2012 at 11:43pmGOD (OLD TESTAMENT) did let us struggle, in fact he was done with us so he sent plagues, floods, disasters etc…..Then he sent his son JESUS (not the same) one the father, one the son, to die for us sinners so we can live!!!!Get it.
Report Post »SquidVetOhio
Posted on June 20, 2012 at 5:02pmFunny, I don’t remember the Jews calling God pitiful after 400 years of slavery by the Egyptians or the 80 years of slavery by the Babylonians.
Report Post »radargeek
Posted on June 20, 2012 at 5:14pmWell done!
Report Post »AvengerK
Posted on June 20, 2012 at 6:05pmThey still practice Passover/Pasach in remembrance of their freeing from the Egyptians and exalting of G-d.
Report Post »HoneyBager7x7
Posted on June 21, 2012 at 2:49amWow, good point. Black people, grow up.
Report Post »f-ingconservative.com
Posted on June 20, 2012 at 5:00pmMan she is Trying to get her name out…Say anything, well at least we know where she stands!!
Report Post »Follow me @FngConservative
ChicagoJenn
Posted on June 20, 2012 at 4:59pmI am guessing she’s also 1/32 Cherokee
Report Post »blv
Posted on June 20, 2012 at 5:12pmI thought I had this story before too!
Report Post »COLKURTZ
Posted on June 20, 2012 at 4:58pmMaybe bill ayers wrote her bio too.
Report Post »radargeek
Posted on June 20, 2012 at 5:05pmshe is talking about her “composite” grandmother!
Report Post »AvengerK
Posted on June 20, 2012 at 6:15pmRADACREEK..“compression”. Her grandmother is a compression.
Report Post »Kalido
Posted on June 20, 2012 at 4:54pmMaybe drugs enslaved her grandmother.
Report Post »HoneyBager7x7
Posted on June 21, 2012 at 3:19amDont give her grandmother anymore excuses.
Report Post »One of the Quiet Ones
Posted on June 20, 2012 at 4:52pmIf she was sold on a street corner maybe she was sold for 10 minutes at a time? In that case she may have been a slave but not in the way you thought. (A prostitute)
Report Post »rl
Posted on June 20, 2012 at 4:50pm39-Year-Old MSNBC Host: My Grandmother Was Lifelong ‘Slave,‘ God Is ’Pretty Pitiful’ To Let That Happen
GOD HAD NOTHING TO DO WITH HER BEING A SLAVE…. That was an act of MAN…….
She is pretty pitiful for thinking that…..
Report Post »Truthbeliever2
Posted on June 20, 2012 at 4:49pmBoo F-ing Hoo, “My grandma was a slave” and since God didnt come out of the clouds to help, he doesnt exist. Get over yourself you fracking crybaby. Do you have any idea how many people have had hard lives? The world is full of people who face hardships every day. If you have faced hardship and blame it all the non-existance of God you need help.
Waaaaaaaaa there is no God because if there were he would come down from the heavens and make my life perfect. Waaaaaaaaa
Report Post »aposematic
Posted on June 20, 2012 at 4:46pmUnfortunately/Obviously, this sicko is still a slave–to her ignorance.
Report Post »Shrkb8
Posted on June 20, 2012 at 4:44pmHmmmmm!
Report Post »For her grandmother to have lived her whole life as a slave she would have had to have died about 1865. That means her parent would have had to been born before 1865. Since she is 39 she would have been born in 1971 or 72. So her parent either mother or father would have been about 105 year old when she was born. Hmmmmmmm!!!!!!
Commonsensical
Posted on June 20, 2012 at 4:42pmSeems it’s impossible to be a racist, or even a liar, if you’re black. You can make all the racist comments or lie all you want as long as you’re a minority, and totally get a pass!
Report Post »mountainbiker
Posted on June 20, 2012 at 4:42pm“Where were you when I set the foundations of the World?” GOD.
Report Post »paperpushermj
Posted on June 20, 2012 at 4:40pmThis Woman lives in the land of the ….aggrieved.
Report Post ».
adjective
1 the manager looked aggrieved at the suggestion: resentful, affronted, indignant, disgruntled, discontented, upset, offended, piqued, riled, nettled, vexed, irked, irritated, annoyed, put out, chagrined; informal peeved, miffed, in a huff, sore, steamed. ANTONYMS pleased.
2 the aggrieved party: wronged, injured, mistreated, ill-treated, abused, harmed.
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WHAT A WASTE OF A LIFE
Gonzo
Posted on June 20, 2012 at 4:37pmYou poor, poor lady. If only the evil white man had left your ancestors alone in Africa. You’re life in Africa of tribal, political and religious violence, disease, famine and abject poverty would have been so much more noble and fulfilling.
Report Post »Redwood Elf
Posted on June 20, 2012 at 4:48pmMaybe we could take up a collection and give all these liberal “We’re still slaves to whitey” types one way tickets to, say, Uganda, and they can do their whining somewhere we won’t have to hear them. You don’t want to be American and take advantage of the opportunities this country provides, and delude yourself with this completely false impression that black people can’t accomplish anything (Hint: There’s a black man in the white house, you morons), fine…go away and leave us alone.
Report Post »AvengerK
Posted on June 20, 2012 at 6:11pmGONZO…try reminding Harris Hyphen Perry that it was her “brothers” in Africa that hunted down women like her grandmother and sold them to slavers. White slavers didn’t venture too far from the coast, it was far too dangerous. The hunting and capturing was done mainly by rival tribesman.
Report Post »And slavery was a normal way of life to them in Africa itself. It still takes place today.
How did Algore put it? Ah yes..an inconvenient truth.
iampraying4u
Posted on June 23, 2012 at 12:07pmAMEN Gonzo
Report Post »thegreatcarnac
Posted on June 20, 2012 at 4:33pmI am not responsible for her lying slave story. I never owned a slave. There hasn’t been a white person in 170 years that has owned a slave. There is no black person in slavery and hasn’t been for over 165-170 years or more. This slut’s grandmother was not a slave. The old bag cannot be that old. I have no guilt and feel none. No white person alive today is guilty of anything except putting up with this black attack on our people. M.H. Perry can go to hades and take anyone who looks like her with her. I could care less about her or her grandmother. If someone bought her great-grandmother, I am sure they did not get their money’s worth.
Report Post »reallyannoyed
Posted on June 21, 2012 at 10:11amSee, all you TP people try to claim you aren’t racist and full of hate, yet comments like this are posted on your online hangouts every minute.
Jim Crow is widely considered an extension of slavery. Domestics were paid pennies, could have pay withheld without recourse, were physically and emotionally abused, and had no workers rights. Research it. Or, if that is too difficult, go rent The Help. It’s a fictional account, but based on historical truths, and nice and simple for anyone to understand.
Report Post »Larry E
Posted on June 20, 2012 at 4:22pmHmm, her grandmother was sold on a street corner? I’m not a lawyer, but I do believe that slavery was outlawed in this country sometime in the 1860′s, and that prostitution has been illegal in most of this country for a long time too. How is that her grandmother was sold on a street corner then? Maybe I’m just not smart enough to understand all this having not attended an elite university, or maybe Melissa got a burr someplace and it’s still under her saddle.
Everything is racism with the “end of racism’s hope” in the White House.
Report Post »GodWillPrevail
Posted on June 20, 2012 at 4:37pmYes and it ended for about 10 years before the white people figured out how to re enslave the blacks. This was done mostly through corrupt courts for men where a court falsely jailed you and forced you to work with shackles on for some employer. Sharecropping for women. Where the land owner let you borrow money then forced you to live and work for them for the rest of your life.
This was not put to an end till the 1960′s.
So quite possible this story is true.
Report Post »usedCZARsalesman
Posted on June 20, 2012 at 4:40pmif you do the math, her grandmother would have to have had her mother when she was 60…AND her mother would have had to had HER when she was 60…sounds perfectly reasonable
Report Post »Redwood Elf
Posted on June 20, 2012 at 4:50pmMake some more stuff up, “Godwillprevail”, you’re a hilariously funny idiot.
Report Post »SquidVetOhio
Posted on June 20, 2012 at 5:01pm“Yes and it ended for about 10 years before the white people figured out how to re enslave the blacks.”
I’m glad you castigate all white people for what white democrats did in the south. Now the Democratic party has enslaved the black family since the 1960′s by driving the father out of the home and pay the woman to have children and then brainwashing the same people to believe it was the fault of some white person who just wants to go to work, church and raise their family. They convince blacks that God did not create them equal because they actually evolved and haven’t caught up to the white man in the process. Sadly, over 90% of blacks are still enslaved to this demonic lie.
Until they open their eyes to see what their “Democrat Masters” still have the shackles on them, they will remain enslaved. God created man in His image (both white and black) and there is no reason why a black man can not achieve every bit of success as a white man.
Read about Frederick Douglass. Probably the greatest black man to ever live in my opinion.
Report Post »Brittany-Imbriaarts
Posted on June 20, 2012 at 5:55pmActually she claims Richmond VA, now as a native of the aforementioned city I can say I was taught that the slave trade on the streets here ended long before the Civil War.
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