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5 Things You Need to Know from Yesterday’s Election

There wasn’t much hype, but yesterday was an election day. So we thought we’d put together a list of five things you need to know about what happened. If you know of any others  — especially where you’re from — add it to the comments.

(1) Tea Party-backed Navy Pilot Jim Bridenstine ousted incumbent Rep. John Sullivan in the primary for Okalahoma’s 1st Congressional District. From the Washington Post:

Bridenstine, who had tea party backing, is a political newcomer who ran a campaign that attempted to paint Sullivan as a career politician who had grown out of touch with working-class Oklahomans. He also criticized Sullivan for missing votes; the incumbent missed votes in 2009 while being treated for alcoholism.

Both men squabbled over Sullivan’s voting record, who held the more important job in the private sector and which one would be the most conservative candidate for the job.

Bridenstine will now face small business owner John Olson, a Democrat, and Independent Craig Allen, an airline pilot. They’ll both be on the 1st District ballot in November.

KRMG-TV notes that Bridenstine has now become the favorite to win the seat in the heavily-Republican district.

(2) Utah Sen. Orrin Hatch may be unpopular among Republicans nationwide, but in Utah he’s apparently quite a hit. He breezed through his primary, beating upstart Dan Liljenquist:

Hatch, 78, had been bracing for a tough re-election battle, but he breezed to victory. Former state Sen. Dan Liljenquist, who survived a 2008 plane crash in Guatemala that killed 11 of 14 on board, won just enough support at the state GOP’s nominating convention to advance to the primary.

But Liljenquist faced an overwhelming financial and organizational disadvantage in the primary. Hatch, learning from the defeat two years ago of his Senate colleague Robert Bennett, spent about $10 million blanketing the airwaves and building a campaign operation unlike anything Utah had seen before.

Hatch told the Associated Press in an interview Tuesday night that he was ready to tackle the nation’s debt problems and focus on Social Security and Medicare.

“This is my last term,” Hatch said. “I’m ready to bite the bullet.”

(3) Charlie Rangel is the congressman who just keeps on ticking. The 82-year-old Rep. who has come under fire recently survived his primary despite running in a redistricted area:

Rangel declared victory over his opponent Tuesday night. With 84 percent of the vote counted, Rangel was up 45-40 in the race for the newly-formed 13th Congressional District.

“I am so grateful for the support,” Rangel said Tuesday night.

“I was pleased to see that a lot of people knew me, there was a connection,” he said, adding that his incumbency helped. “When you’re there for four decades, it’s kind of hard for you to not be known by most people.”

Boasting about being in Washington for four decades? I guess it’s a winning messge.

(4) Charles Barron, the anti-Semitic, David Duke-endorsed candidate for Brooklyn’s 8th Congressional District, lost to  Assemblyman Hakeem S. Jeffries.

(5) The presidential primary season has officially come to an end. The last one was held in Utah, and Mitt Romney won:

Romney already had more than enough delegates to claim the GOP nomination. On Tuesday night he won all 40 delegates in Utah.

Nebraska will hold its GOP state convention in July, but Utah held the last presidential primary on Tuesday, almost six months after Romney narrowly lost the Iowa caucuses to former Pennsylvania Sen. Rick Santorum.

Since then, Romney has dispatched Santorum, former House Speaker Newt Gingrich, Texas Gov. Rick Perry and former Utah Gov. Jon Huntsman.

Texas Rep. Ron Paul is still trying to win delegates at state conventions but stopped campaigning in primaries.

So what did we learn? Aside from Sullivan’s upset, The Atlantic notes that long-time incumbents are generally hard to unseat:

After a lot of hand-wringing over inter-party squabbles and “endangered” incumbents, Congressional lifers Orrin Hatch and Charles Rangel easily passed their primary challenges on Tuesday, signaling almost certain re-election in the fall. Hatch, who has been a Senator for Utah since 1976, crushed his Tea Party-opponent with nearly double the number of votes. Meanwhile, Rangel (who represents New York’s 15th District centered in Harlem) won 45 percent of the vote in a crowded Democratic field.

The fact that these two races were considered to be among the toughest of either politician’s career shows just how hard it is to unseat a incumbent once they set down roots in Washington. In 2010, Rangel became the first member of the House of Representatives to be censured on the floor of the chamber in more than three decades and lost his chairmanship of the powerful Ways and Means Committee due to ethics violations, but has already been re-elected once and will likely cruise to victory in November. Hatch’s win was never really in doubt, but simply being challenged by a fellow Republican was enough to make some supporters nervous and make national headlines. [Emphasis added]

At least for now and for these races. We’ll see come November.

Comments (67)

  • RSHLUVER
    Posted on June 27, 2012 at 10:14pm

    All I care about is that I get a chance to vote out my dimwitted Democratic Congresswoman Kathy Hochul in my newly drawn republican leaning western NY 26th district.
    Dem Rep to constituents on HHS mandate: “Basically, we’re not looking to the Constitution”

    http://hotair.com/archives/2012/02/27/dem-rep-to-constituents-on-hhs-mandate-basically-were-not-looking-to-the-constitution/

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  • RebelPatriot
    Posted on June 27, 2012 at 9:05pm

    You can not continue to vote for the same ol’ politicians and expect change in our government.

    The outcome will always be the same.

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  • myway
    Posted on June 27, 2012 at 4:32pm

    Charlie is popular in Harlem he carries the whip. 81 years old, what do we need him for?

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    • muffythetuffy
      Posted on June 27, 2012 at 7:50pm

      RINO HATCH proved that with lots of Democrat campaign money and the help of ACORN and Black Panthers any RINO can win a protected Senate seat. Maybe the Democrat will win and he can be blamed for loosing the Senate again. A Hatch defeat would not mean much, replacing a RINO with a real Democrat will not mean much.

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  • brianemcfarlane
    Posted on June 27, 2012 at 3:53pm

    Hatch and Rangel winning shows how much many Americans are out-of-touch… I would think that most Americans would be FOR term limits (maybe I’m wrong), they just had their chance to get rid of long time incumbents and squandered it. The word lobbyist is a very negative word to many; many people see lobbyists as plague on our political system, they’re wrong, it is the people that continue to vote in long time incumbents… the longer they are in office the more they will be influenced by other people/organizations rather than the being influenced by voters. It is our fault if you believe that lobbyists and campaign donors have more influence on your representatives than we do.

    NICE JOB OKLAHOMA!!!!

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  • FatPolice
    Posted on June 27, 2012 at 3:36pm

    Hawaii is no different, the resident Senator in office since 1963 is nothing to boast about. But how do you vote a man out of office when he is responsible for the funding that creates your job ? This is how “the Company Store” operates. Get a man to work for the State, provide the wages, the medical the retirement pension ( even if that same pension bankrupts the State) and then give him tokens that can only be redeemed in the company store and you have guaranteed customers and guaranteed votes.

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  • sjays3k
    Posted on June 27, 2012 at 2:48pm

    It was not just the cult following of Hatch, can someone explain why Palin and Hannity were big supporters? Those of you that fell for the crap that Orrin is the only person that can save Hill AFB, and that he holds no responsibility for the trillions he voted for and the 16 times he raised the debt level, what will happen to HAFB in six years?

    Senator Obama (Hatch) – Mister blame everyone, use fear and smear will have a seventh term. He will start moderating for the general election, then move back to DC and forget every word he said back home. Regardless of who wins the white house in a year you will have the old Orrin back who will try to go along to get along to preserve his legacy over the longevity of the country just like he has for 36 years.

    Sorry, but we’ve seen this movie before, and if the majority of Utah can fall for it, then there is a real possibility that we may have to endure 4 more years of the real Obama. In which case you won’t recognize the Hatch you saw during his re-election here and the one that will moderate to get along in Washington, DC that despises Libertarians. Oh, by the way the founders were Libertarians Orrin, do you despise them too?

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    • AmericanFightingMan1
      Posted on June 27, 2012 at 3:12pm

      Hatch would have made a fine Roman Senator, ie., capitulator, too. The Republic stands and falls due to who we select to represent us. Clearly, people do not realize how bad things are. That is due, in large part, to the fantasy created by the Fed printing loads of money and creating a false economy that will fall hard one day.

      Once the economy collapses, Orin Hatch will be too old to hold accountable. We, the People, are left holding the bag, but it is our collective doing.

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    • keepthefaith
      Posted on June 27, 2012 at 4:07pm

      I have been trying to vote Hatch out for years. I am only one vote though. Voter turnout was amazingly low this year and I am absolutley shocked that Hatch won by such a huge margin. WAKE UP UTAH!!!!! Get Hatch out of there! Too late this time, unfortunately. We need term limits. This is ridiculous!

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    • LetUsReason
      Posted on June 27, 2012 at 5:40pm

      I don’t get it. I voted for Liljenquist, along with everyone else I know. The majority of callers on the radio were not voting for Hatch either. I don’t understand how he won, let alone by this margin. So….who counts the votes? Hmm…

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    • NeoFan
      Posted on June 28, 2012 at 1:04am

      The people of Utah are going to regret this one. Hatch calls me and my fellow Utah conservatives the slimiest people he has ever seen because we think its time to change direction to more liberty and less tyranny. He had his people try to physically block state delegates from getting to the freedomworks booth to talk to about his record. He is a thug and an evil loser. He has nothing to lose now. He can come out of the closet and fully support Obama or his ilk now. And he will. Mark my word.

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  • SanDiegoCountyCitizen
    Posted on June 27, 2012 at 2:37pm

    Term limits NOW!

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    • MeOnTheBeach
      Posted on June 27, 2012 at 3:30pm

      You can‘t convince the majority to vote the way you want so you want to legislate a limit on people’s freedom to choose. Hmmmm how very progressive of you.

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    • VTPatriot44
      Posted on June 27, 2012 at 5:08pm

      @MEONTHEBEACH – you gotta be kidding me!?!?!? The very notion of a career politician – that should be an oxymoron if the world was just – is progressive. It’s a lot easier to implement the incremental steps needed to embower a massive bureaucracy when you have the authority for 40 years then it is if you are only there for 10. A true libertarian thinking individual could self regulate this, but we’ve seen that the power corrupts so amending the constitution is the only alternative.

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  • Small World
    Posted on June 27, 2012 at 2:37pm

    What the hell is wrong with people? Same ‘ol same ’ol.

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  • GilbertAcct
    Posted on June 27, 2012 at 1:45pm

    How many times has Orrin Hatch voted to raise the debt ceiling? 16 TIMES!! He won because Romney endorsed him. Too many Mormons are way too hooked on Romney. They’ll follow anything he says, and change their opinions to match his. It worries me… Mormons are historically liberty minded constitutionalists. I fear Romney will shift the entire population to the left. Hatch also plays a big roll in this (in Utah at least). I’m one Mormon who rejects the three big government bozos… Harry Reid, Mitt Romney, and Orrin Hatch.

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    • stopspendingourmoney
      Posted on June 27, 2012 at 4:17pm

      Me also, I can’t believe the sheeple that these undedicated people here in Utah are, they are totally obvious of what is going on, I try to tell other fellow Mormons and they look at me like I am crazy, I also supported Ron Paul as Pres. But there are too many Mormon sheeple that listen to the media and think every word they are saying is true, I am disgusted. I voted against Orrin and told everyone I know to do the same, there are just way to many people that are uninformed or think Romney is the best thing since sliced bread, if they only knew how much like Obama he is, he is the lesser of the 2 evils however I am sick of always having to vote for the lesser.

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    • LetUsReason
      Posted on June 27, 2012 at 5:46pm

      I agree with some of what you said, but not all. I think a lot of people are voting for Orrin simply out of name recognition. Those are generally the less-educated voters that are swayed by radio ads. I’m not sure that the Romney endorsement had much to do with it, and I imagine it would have been the same had Romney not endorsed anyone. I certainly didn’t vote for Hatch, but I will vote for Romney (and not because he’s Mormon). Honestly, we need more Utah politicians like Jason Chaffetz. I also think Mia Love will be a great addition to our Congress!

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  • GIRTHMAN
    Posted on June 27, 2012 at 1:41pm

    Rangel had to pay out a lot of cash for re-election

    KICKBACKS AND BRIBES WORK EVERYTIME

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  • fastgen1
    Posted on June 27, 2012 at 1:35pm

    I really did not want hatch to win as I believe he has been corrupted by all of his years in office. The TV blitz he ran here was sicking. Not a hatch fan. I have written him several letters and he has never acknowledged one of them.. Doesn’t care a fig about Utah, just lining his pockets, and loving the power…

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  • cykonas
    Posted on June 27, 2012 at 1:29pm

    The only member of the Utah Congressional delegation worth talking about and watching is Rep. Chaffetz. Like Rubio, West, and others from the 2010 class it’s still too soon to know for sure if they will pan out long run. In my opinion, though, any State that can reelect Sen. Hatch as many times as Utahans’ have reelected him is not really a conservative State.

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  • American_Woman
    Posted on June 27, 2012 at 1:24pm

    It just goes to show that voters who are not paying attention will vote based solely on name recognition.

    It also shows mob mentality – believing what you hear (ex: Tea Party BAD or expensive campaign ads/propaganda) instead of finding out truths for yourself.

    The Tea Party better ramp up their own message and let people know who they are and what they stand for!

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  • cemerius
    Posted on June 27, 2012 at 1:04pm

    Lesson learned? TERM LIMITS NOW!!!

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  • old school conservative
    Posted on June 27, 2012 at 12:45pm

    @LAPITUP
    The reason why Matheson is ahead in the polls against Mia Love is that his congressional district incorporates a large portion of Salt Lake City Proper…which is pretty liberal. The suburbs of Salt Lake and the rest of the state are conservative, but the district he runs in is Democratic. While realigning boundaries to add a 4th congressional district the Dems put up a stink at the boundaries and Matheson is now running in an area where he does not live (which is allowed) so as to maintain his democratic constituency. I recently moved into his district and am tickled to death at the chance I have to finally vote against Matheson and to make it better I get to vote for Mia Love…I just really hope that we can pull it off and make Utah a fully Red state.

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  • cicero1776
    Posted on June 27, 2012 at 12:34pm

    WENDY LONG, Conservative backed Republican, won primary for NY Senator with 51% of vote in three (3) way. Tea Party did it and will do it again in November. For Liberty

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  • GERATMO
    Posted on June 27, 2012 at 12:25pm

    I live in Utah and was one of the few who supported Dan Liljenquist. Orrin Hatch is just another big spending, big government politician. Maybe now that he doesnt have to win an election he will do the right thing.

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    • Magyar
      Posted on June 27, 2012 at 12:40pm

      Doubt it—once a RINO always a RINO!

      But…good for you for standing on your principles!

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    • sandswillis
      Posted on June 27, 2012 at 1:12pm

      I was also one in Utah that voted for Liljenquist. I went door to door passing out flyers, put signs up in my yard and even did a honk and wave for 7 hours the day of the election, but people were too engrained in the thought that Utah would lose seniority in committees if Hatch wasn’t re-elected. Very short sighted on something that wasn’t even a sure thing. Very disappointed that we’ll have 6 more years of Hatch. Just hope he learned a valuable lesson by being forced into a primary for the first time in his 36 years in office.

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    • LetUsReason
      Posted on June 27, 2012 at 5:51pm

      @ SANDSWILLIS

      Were you in South Jordan across from Smith’s? If so, I probably saw you. :-) And I voted for him, too.

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  • flanny
    Posted on June 27, 2012 at 11:33am

    I am a tea party member from Utah. I voted for Hatch as did most of the tea party members here. Some members decided they wanted Hatch out and called upon Freedom Works to help. Most of us can see the power he has a senior senator to uphold the tea party standards. He wa one of the strongest senators fighting Obama Care and still one of the ones fighting hard against. He wants to balance the budget and will have an opportunity to really do this as finance committee chair. I know a lot of you will try to send all of the arguments as to bad voting and so forth, but there is more to the truth than you are always informed. We in Utah, believe him to be an honest upstanding Senator and Utah is the one he is representing. Why the nation doesn’t want him and Utah does, says something for knowing your own.

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    • jedidiah
      Posted on June 27, 2012 at 11:58am

      It was Utah’s choice to make; I congratulate you.

      But the picture that always comes to my mind is Orin fighting McCain to get to a microphone to be the first to kiss some libs butt. I hope you feel the same about Orin when it comes time to “compromise” and pass “bi-partisan” health care reform. Be it McCain, Hatch, or Obama — there are few things more dangerous than a representative of the people who does not have to stand for re-election.

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    • timtritt
      Posted on June 27, 2012 at 11:59am

      So, waiting until his final term to “bite the bullet” and “tackle the debt, SS, and MC” are honorable, upstanding things to do as an elected official who is supposed to do what’s right… Now that reelection is not a concern (assuming he wins the general election), he can now do the hard tasks?

      Your logic doesn’t make sense. I am sure he is a nice old man, but he should have been doing all these things before…

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    • Ch
      Posted on June 27, 2012 at 12:01pm

      Hatch stated that he loathed the Tea Party–Did Utah miss that? Hatch is slick and power hungry…too bad Utah did not take the chance to get rid of this relic of the 60′s.

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    • abbygirl1994
      Posted on June 27, 2012 at 12:21pm

      I am a Utahn, and after three years of writing back and forth to Orrin Hatch I realized that Mr. Hatch had voted more left than rght, raised the debt limit several times, voted in Ben Bernanke, Timothy Geithner, and good ole Eric Holder! He told me Ben Bernanke was a good man! I had hoped like Bob Bennet that Utah would send him home.. but apparently not! Explain why you would vote for someone who has voted more left than conservative, who has raised the debt limit over and over again??

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    • GilbertAcct
      Posted on June 27, 2012 at 1:44pm

      Orrin Hatch voted 16 times to raise the debt ceiling. 16 TIMES!! He won because Romney endorsed him. Too many Mormons are way too hooked on Romney. They’ll follow anything he says, and change their opinions to match his. It worries me… Mormons are historically liberty minded constitutionalists. I fear Romney will shift the entire population to the left. Hatch also plays a big roll in this (in Utah at least). I’m one Mormon who rejects the three big government bozos… Harry Reid, Mitt Romney, and Orrin Hatch.

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    • sjays3k
      Posted on June 27, 2012 at 2:28pm

      It was not just the cult following of Hatch, can someone explain why Palin and Hannity were big supporters?

      Senator Obama (Hatch) – Mister blame everyone, use fear and smear will have a seventh term. He will start moderating for the general election, then move back to DC and forget every word he said back home. Regardless of who wins the white house in a year you will have the old Orrin back who will try to go along to get along to preserve his legacy over the longevity of the country just like he has for 36 years.

      Sorry, but we’ve seen this movie before, and if the majority of Utah can fall for it, then there is a real possibility that we may have to endure 4 more years of the real Obama. In which case you won’t recognize the Hatch you saw during his re-election here and the one that will moderate to get along in Washington, DC that despises Libertarians. Oh, by the way the founders were Libertarians Orrin, do you despise them too?

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    • keepthefaith
      Posted on June 27, 2012 at 4:15pm

      @AbbyGirl

      Don’t forget he also voted for Cass Sunstein.

      I went to a town hall and boy is he a slick talker. He almost had me convinced to vote for him. If only for his pesky voting record…I’m sorry, I can’t overlook that. Tea Party of Utah you were duped. I hope you’re happy because now we get another 6 miserable years to deal with him. How could you all overlook his voting record. Words are cheap…Action is what you have to look at. I am so disappointed in my state right now :(

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    • NeoFan
      Posted on June 27, 2012 at 4:42pm

      If you voted for Orin Hatch you are in now way shape or form a “tea party member”. Your just an very uninformed voter that needs to spend much more time doing honest research into the the actions of the people you are voting for. Did you know that Orin Hatch stood with Chuck Schumer to white wash the actions of the ATF and the FBI at Waco where several innocent children were burned alive? Did this have any consequenses? How about the current ATF scandal Fast and Furious? Maybe with out this establishment approval we wouldnt have over 300 dead Mexican citizens and one dead border agent. He also voted to confirm Eric Holder who may have been directly responsible for this new disaster. Have you even heard one word from him opposing Fast and Furious? No. Orin Hatch is responsible for his votes and who he supports even when they lead to very evil acts. He is responsible for his multiple votes to put our country deeper in dept than one generation can get us out of. His excuse is that he was not the only one that voted for these things. I believe he is in fact responsible for his votes and his actions and you are responsible for your support of him and his actions as well. You may think you are a tea partier but your actions are in support of exacly what the tea party stands against.

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  • lapitup
    Posted on June 27, 2012 at 11:28am

    I live in Utah and the battle between the two was a heated one. I told my Delegate not to vote for Hatch which helped give the opportunity for Liljenquist. The more I learned about liljenquist the more I had doubts about him. I slowly changed my mind back to Sen. Hatch. For a few reasons. If I was an outsider looking in I would have told all of Utah to vote for Liljenquist, I don’t have that luxury though I am a Utahan. The fact is that over the coming years if Romney is elected Hatch sits at the head of the finance committee, which will definitely help Utah out during a tough time the Nation as a whole will be going through another great depression. We are definitely going to be receiving funds (that would have been spent anyway) on infrastructure, education, and other needed accommodations Utah needs.

    The second main reason is if Obama gets re-elected Hatch is one of a few senators that have supper seniority in the senate. If Obama does get voted in again Hatch “Does” (whether you agree with it or not) have tons of experience with dealing while in the minority of the senate.

    I know Hatch is 51 percent conservative and 49 percent liberal and you really don’t know which one you will get when you vote him in. I am hoping we see the “True” Conservative side of Hatch in the next few years. The only problem is we have no recourse as a people to vote him out if he does not vote the way of his constituents, This will be his last term, I think a needed one though.

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    • lapitup
      Posted on June 27, 2012 at 11:52am

      What really bother me is Jim Matheson a Democrat Congressmen Vs Mia Love a True Conservative, the last pole that came out Jim was ahead 60 something to 30 something to win. Utah is supposedly one of the most conservative states in the union. Why in the heck is Jim getting voted in again? I don’t understand this especially Jim has voted party lines over 90 percent of the time. Mia Love is a Mayer of Saratoga Springs and is running against Jim. Jim also was changed districts to from district three to district 4,, and he still is winning the votes down there. For a conservative state we sure do vote in liberals even when they proclaim they belong to that party.

      This is the race that bothers me most out of all other races in Utah. Oh and if anyone wants to Google SLC mayors race too that is another race that has been in the news because of un-ethical decisions that Winder did. The race I think right now sits at Crockett won only by 239 votes. A recount is going to happen and it could be overturned do to people who voted early, who didn’t know about the un-ethical thing Winder did. Winder has raised taxes 18 percent as West Valley Mayer and Other unethical things he did while he was in office. The only reason why he got voted in is because “Locally” Winder is a good family name well known in Utah IE (Winder Farms). But this Winder is not related to them at all, He gives winder a bad name.

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    • jds7171
      Posted on June 27, 2012 at 12:24pm

      The thing is here in Utah the majority is Conservative Republican. Right in the heart of salt lake city is a bunch of democrats/liberals. His district was covered in that. He has since moved to a different district but still has a lot of democrats/liberals manly in northern Utah where our big cities are Logan, Ogden, Salt Lake City. He has family ties here as well. His dad was our last democratic Governor. I wouldn’t say liberal because we did have Huntsman who is no conservative. Huntsman did lower taxes and made it a flat tax, but he is all about the cap and trade.

      We do have Democratic/Liberal strong holds here in Utah, just like any other supposedly red states. You have to take in account as well we did have a surge in idiot californians coming to utah, because the businesses are leaving california and some have ended up here, and they want to turn our state into california.

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    • lapitup
      Posted on June 27, 2012 at 12:41pm

      Jds7171: I couldn’t agree with you more, you nailed it. If America is the Melting Pot of the world than Utah is the Melting Pot of America. I have seen an influx of people from Detroit as well. All liberal minded democratic cities that have turned or is turning in to a war zone. They are bringing all of their liberal mentality here. Most in the Nations don’t realize Utah is under heavy attack from the left, and their liberal way of thinking is creeping in at a fast steady stream. KSL a Local News station/outlet has been conservative over the years up until the last 3-4 years. Which alot of LDS people still watch religiously and expect to find the truth their. KSL has totally turned liberal. Not only that but about 6 months ago Jim Dabakis came to Utah and is now the head over the Utah Democrats. Does anyone remember Jim Dabakis? People live in their own states with their own problems and Utah is just the same. Yet I can tell you with mine own eyes Utah is being flooded right now with people from the left with all kinds of different mentalities and are coming in wanting us to change our ways here in Utah. The LDS people (Including me) have our arms open wide to them because we are taught the golden rule at a young age. We as a people are inviting our own destruction because we are allowing people (that don’t have our same values) to come in and rule over us.

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    • martyinhagerstown
      Posted on June 27, 2012 at 1:14pm

      Yep helping Utah with pork is good for the USA. My senator can refuse all pork to my state and I don’t want another forking rail project or tourist center.

      You are an irresponsible voter that like so many others that have taken our country down the drain.

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    • lapitup
      Posted on June 27, 2012 at 1:28pm

      Marty: I feel ya, and I agree with you. But to call me a irresponsible voter tells me that your naive. You must have not read all my post or been steaming so bad you missed a few spots. If Sen. Hatch did not get voted in again there would be another senior senator that would be there ready to grab the money. As learned with our own Jason Chaffetz. When he sent money back to the federal Government (money that he cut from his own budget) I think it was somewhere around 300k, The money went back to the federal Government which is run by the White house (Obama). The money gets spent one way or another. Utah just has the sonority now to grab some of that money, which would be spent either way. I would rather it come to a more conservative state than a more liberal one for sure. I consider myself more informed then 97 percent of Utah voters. I just made up my mind differently than yours and considered all outcomes. If there were a better candidate then Dan Liljen. I might have voted for him. But Dan also has alot of liberal dealings also he only has a 50 percent attendance record with the state? so, why should I vote for someone who only shows up half the time to vote? There are a few other things too that I found out about Dan not including a gut feeling not to vote for him. I just came to a different conclusion than you, there is no need to go insulting me with anger.

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    • lapitup
      Posted on June 27, 2012 at 1:46pm

      Not only that but over the next 4 ears (who ever the president may be) the Nation as a whole will be going through a depression. It is a depression that Obama himself has orchestrated. It is going to happen if he gets voted in or not. Why would I not vote for a senator who is in the position to help out Utah’s economy during this tough time? This is what I was thinking of when i switched back to Hatch. If he is the head of the finance committee it will help our economy here in the next 4 years, we will still go through the depression with the rest of the Nation, but we will have it that much better too. Like I said. If I lived outside Utah I would tell everyone to vote for Dan Liljenquist. I don’t have that luxury though, due to the fact I am a Utahan. I did put Utah first, because I live here and I know what is coming our way. The pork is going to be spent one way or another, this way it will be spent here in my home state. That said.

      The flip side to that coin (and it is very present) Hatch does have a Liberal voting record especially the last 10 or so years. I don’t know if it is a good trade off time will tell. One vote on one liberal bill could be enough to undue all that mentioned above I know this. I “hope” Hatch does not turn out to be a sell out. I just felt the positives outweighed the negatives in this voting cycle.

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    • brianemcfarlane
      Posted on June 27, 2012 at 4:08pm

      “The more I learned about liljenquist the more I had doubts about him.” OK, what was it that you “learned” that gave you “doubts”?

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    • NeoFan
      Posted on June 27, 2012 at 4:52pm

      You cannot claim you are for a smaller federal government, more individual liberty, less tyranny and less debt and then at the same time say that you want to make sure you get your slice of the ever increasing pie. This is called hypocricy.

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    • lapitup
      Posted on June 27, 2012 at 8:31pm

      briane and neo. I know my post (all of my post) is pretty long. But I discuss this in my post. Please feel free to go back and read through all of them before posting again. Don‘t claim you know me either because you don’t. I am the emphasis of Conservative. I work so hard I watch the sun go backwards, I am so ahead of myself; everyday is yesterday. Maybe I should start teaching classes I could make some money.

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    • NeoFan
      Posted on June 28, 2012 at 12:55am

      @LAPITUP: I live in Utah and you are the “emphasis” epitome of a Utah republican but not a Utah conservative. You are absolutely not a tea party conservative. Every reason you gave for voting for Hatch is proof that you are anything but a tea party member. You should watch Glenn Beck and read some of the books he recommends so that you can get up to speed on what the tea party is and what they stand for. Maximum liberty, Minimum Tyranny, small government (like the fed being 95% smaller than it is) and a return to the constitution. Voting for someone that faithfully sides with the left wing and consistently votes to put us and our grandkids in deeper debt and helps to cover up corruption in government and also votes to make government larger and more powerful is not only not a tea partier but not a conservative either.

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  • SquidVetOhio
    Posted on June 27, 2012 at 11:24am

    They didn’t mention the conservative woman who beat out 2 GOP good ol boys in New York!

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  • rich43068
    Posted on June 27, 2012 at 10:39am

    I say we get the Senate back to being appointed by the State Congress’.

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    • kaydeebeau
      Posted on June 27, 2012 at 10:51am

      That would be a good start

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    • Gonzo
      Posted on June 27, 2012 at 10:51am

      And the POTUS elected by the Senate? It sure would sav a lot of money wouldn’t? It would also force people to pay closer attention to their local representatives instead of relying on the POTUS to save the world.

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    • lukerw
      Posted on June 27, 2012 at 11:19am

      State Appointments of Senators… may not be the Best System, and allow A$$es into Office… but it was argued FOR… in the Federalist Paper and among the AntiFederalists… and debated by the Creators & Approvers of the CONSTITUTION.

      If the 17th Amendment was never passed… ObamaCare would never have passed the Senate.

      We have abandoned States Rights… for Union backed Mob Rule! And, we have Lost a Check & Balance to the Governmental System.

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    • cicero1776
      Posted on June 27, 2012 at 12:37pm

      10-4 Lets get back to Constitutional government. For Liberty

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  • Guitar Master
    Posted on June 27, 2012 at 10:24am

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    How is it possible with all of the voter dissatisfaction and apathy towards politicians, that Hatch and Rangel maintain their seats? How is this possible?

    The first reason you get (in Hatch’s case) is that he “outspent his opponent.” Typical excuse.

    Is it a huge coincidence that these lifetime politicians keep getting elected by constituents that are disdainful of them or could it be something more sinister?

    We all know how corrupt these politicians are but the very last place, the powers that be, would expect you to suspect is the voting booth. Everybody takes for granted that the voting process is the holy grail of the American system of government.

    Beware America. . . . beware that the elections aren’t “fixed” well beforehand. How else would you explain people like Hatch, Rangel and McCain making a lifetime career on our dime. Just what have they done in their political careers to earn them re-election for so many terms?

    Of course you also have to take into consideration just how stupid most of the voting public really is.

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    • dmerwin
      Posted on June 27, 2012 at 11:31am

      Rangel’s district while changed, I would bet still consists of the same demographic. In NY he cannot lose. Those people will also vote for Obama, incapable of independent thought.

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  • term limits for congress
    Posted on June 27, 2012 at 9:39am

    Until we have term limits, politicians will never make the right decisions. It’s all about re-election and political power.

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    • kaydeebeau
      Posted on June 27, 2012 at 10:18am

      Term limits are not all they are cracked up to be. When there is no need to worry about re-election, those who are truely dispicable and power hungry can and will do all manner of rotteness while in office.

      Nashville, TN city council is prime example. they just voted in a .53 property tax increase with only 8 no votes – why? Because there was no way to “threaten” the politicians with not be re-elected – they are term llimited so they don’t care.

      The founders had the right idea. Term limits are built into our governmental system. the problem is that voters must be awake and informed and willing to term limit reps by voting them out of office

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    • pizzaman87
      Posted on June 27, 2012 at 10:28am

      I kind of disagree, if there is a term limit, I do what ever the people want the first term. However the next or whenever the last term is, I don’t have to worry about reelection, that person don’t have to worry about the people and vote however he want to vote. For example Obama always say he wanted to end bush tax cut, but he didn’t and that is political suicide and would prevent reelection. but since tax cut end after the election if for some reason Obama get reelected he could care less about the taxes going up. if he had his way he would have it 75 percent like France new president want.
      People just need to pay attention to who they are electing and not vote mindlessly for a person.

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    • JRook
      Posted on June 27, 2012 at 11:27am

      “But Liljenquist faced an overwhelming financial and organizational disadvantage in the primary.” Really than how do you explain this coverage of total spending. The tea party, big-spending PACs and challenger Dan Liljenquist failed Tuesday to force 78-year-old Orrin Hatch into retirement. Selectivity with what to report and misrepresentation of facts within the report is what it is and speaks volumes of the author.

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    • Ballot_Box_Revolution
      Posted on June 27, 2012 at 11:42am

      @kayd

      I have always thought that too. If you have nothing to lose why do the right thing, when the wrong thing pays more?

      I believe other things need to come with term limits, but as for term limits….

      I have come to this conclusion. It would be a slow process at removing corruption. It would not be an overnight fix. But over time (term limit), old politicians that have their claws in so deep to their seats will be removed, and the new politicians taking their spots will not be in their seats long enough to build an empire of connections, and become corrupt. Also with term limits people will not look to politics as a career, but a duty….

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    • brianemcfarlane
      Posted on June 27, 2012 at 4:41pm

      Are you aware of what it takes to have term limits?
      One way is to have congress vote FOR term limits… do you think they will do that? I don’t!
      The constitution can be amended… by congress or by Two-thirds of the state legislatures ask Congress to call a national convention to propose amendments. (This method has never been used.)

      Any predictions on term limits being reality?

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  • 1HonestInjun
    Posted on June 27, 2012 at 9:35am

    Hatch has to keep Ted Kennedy’s candle lite.

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    • AmazingGrace8
      Posted on June 27, 2012 at 11:09am

      Agree.

      The citizens have spoken….just like they did in Egypt. Votes have consequences.
      And the beat goes on.

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  • Gonzo
    Posted on June 27, 2012 at 9:07am

    6. Harlem is a slum and continually votes to perpetuate that status.

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    • angeleyes63
      Posted on June 27, 2012 at 9:19am

      @GONZO
      Ain’t it a shame how all too common that type of voting slavery is.

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