61% of Americans Oppose Abortion in ‘All’ or ‘Most’ Situations
- Posted on May 24, 2011 at 3:29pm by
Billy Hallowell
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Yesterday, Gallup released its latest research on abortion. The results show that 49 percent of the nation is “pro-choice,“ with an additional 45 percent classifying itself as ”pro-life.” According to Gallup:
This is similar to a year ago, when 45% were “pro-choice” and 47% “pro-life.” However, it is the first time since 2008 that the “pro-choice” position has had the numerical advantage on this Gallup trend.

But, labels don’t always provide a full picture of public perception. It’s one thing to claim allegiance to one side or another, but it’s an entirely different matter to ask questions surrounding morality and legality. When asked whether or not abortion is moral, the majority of Americans continue (51 percent) to believe that it is wrong, with a minority (39 percent) claiming that it is “morally acceptable.”
The public’s opinions regarding the legality of abortion are also intriguing:
Since 1994, Gallup has also asked those who think abortion should be legal under certain circumstances to say whether it should be legal in “most” or “only a few” circumstances. On this basis, Americans are rather conservative in their stance on abortion, with 61% now preferring that abortion be legal in only a few circumstances or no circumstances. By contrast, 37% want abortion legal in all or most circumstances.
The pattern here is certainly a bit cyclical, though it seems like America is becoming slightly more conservative on the issue. Despite a greater proportion of Americans claiming that they are pro-choice, a majority prefers limitations on the circumstances in which abortion is permissible.
Meanwhile, ABC News reports that the abortion rate in America dropped 8 percent between 2000 and 2008. Sadly, this rate actually increased about 18 percent among the nation’s poorest women. Watch the report, below:




















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Comments (238)
Quickledo
Posted on May 24, 2011 at 4:33pmI don’t want your abortion to be my business! So, don’t use a corrupt taxing system to force me to pay for your abortion!
Report Post »Non-sequitur
Posted on May 24, 2011 at 5:18pmUsing tax money to provide abortions is illegal.
Just so you know.
Report Post »Sparky101
Posted on May 26, 2011 at 1:11amDon’t be completely dishonest. If you are a poor woman you get governemt money. If you choose to spend that on an abortion, then you’ve spent your own money? If the government gives hundreds of millions of dollars to Planned Parenthood, and they use it to pay a nurse who advises women on how to use birth control for half her day and spends the other half assisting abortions, or the government money goes to pay the rent for the clinc that also performs abortions, or uses our money to buy the necessary bandages, sponges, disinfectants, autoclave, disposal bags, etc. they’ve spent their own money. Sure pal. Our tax money never goes towards abortions.
Report Post »Sparky101
Posted on May 26, 2011 at 1:20amDon’t be completely dishonest. If you are a poor woman you get governemt money. If you choose to spend that on an abortion, then you’ve spent your own money? If the government gives hundreds of millions of dollars to Planned Parenthood, and they use it to pay a nurse who advises women on how to use birth control for half her day and spends the other half assisting abortions, or the government money goes to pay the rent for the clinc that also performs abortions, or uses our money to buy the necessary bandages, sponges, disinfectants, autoclave, disposal bags, etc. they’ve spent their own money. Sure pal. Our tax money never goes towards abortions.
Report Post »mill
Posted on May 24, 2011 at 5:22pmYou are right.
Report Post »Instead… We will just pay for the unwanted, mistreated child that gets into trouble, doesn’t get a proper education, breaks the law,joins the gangs, hurts someone, rapes someone, goes to prison where we can support his unwanted ass the rest of his life.
Rickfromillinois
Posted on May 24, 2011 at 5:34pmAnd we aren’t doing that now? So all of these criminals are the wanted children? I find your argument morally bankrupt. Your point of view seems to be that if we don’t support abortion then there will be a increase in crime. So using your logic there should be a sharp decline in crime especially in the poor neighborhood approximately 18 years after abortions were legalized that can be attributed to abortions. That did not happen.
Report Post »KITA
Posted on May 25, 2011 at 12:30pmYou have it all wrong if you are being serious. At least the child was given a chance and it isn’t for us to decided who will become a rapist, a thief, or a teacher, policeman or the next president.
Report Post »ADNIL
Posted on May 25, 2011 at 1:50pmThat‘s just about the lamest excuse for abortion I’ve ever heard. Ha Ha Ha
You can’t be serious.
Report Post »Sparky101
Posted on May 26, 2011 at 1:18amIf abortion was truly the answer to the problem you describe, then why after over 35 years of abortions, has the prison population not shrunk? Your “solution” is not working.
Report Post »Sparky101
Posted on May 26, 2011 at 1:21amIf abortion was truly the answer to the problem you describe, then why after over 35 years of abortions, has the prison population not shrunk? Your “solution” is not working.
Report Post »MadMadder
Posted on May 24, 2011 at 6:04pmYour tax dollars don’t pay for abortions… it’s illegal. They do however help poor women with many other medical treatments, none of which have anything to do with abortions.
Report Post »Gita
Posted on May 24, 2011 at 6:39pmHate to tell you but yes taxpayers are paying for abortions. Your ignorance on this is astounding. Do you ever research anything? Do you know that Margaret Sanger, the founder of planned parenthood, was a bigot and wanted to use abortion to rid the country of black people. Probably not because your ignorant and you don’t research the facts.
Report Post »Gita
Posted on May 24, 2011 at 6:41pm@ madmadder
Report Post »MadMadder
Posted on May 24, 2011 at 6:55pmThe Capps amendment makes it illegal for your tax dollars to be used for abortions except for rape, incest and to save the life of the mother. Statistically, out of ALL money they got (tax & donated) less than 3% is used for abortions total.
Being that you like to run your mouth, care to tell me how many abortions your tax dollars actually support? Or are you just repeating crap you heard from the media rather than actually looking it up?
I don‘t care what you think Sanger’s reasons are…. end of the day it helps plenty of poor people of ALL races get medical help and other things they need, that they couldn’t otherwise get.
Report Post »illuminoddy
Posted on May 25, 2011 at 5:35amwe see the other 97% of the money went to bars, lazy rivers, theme parks, propaganda, and fun-filled fetal-drilling animated movies and other things to coerce and lull the women into abortions..
the 97% was sent on their abortion megaplex, all the rooms, all the facilities, all the amenities, all the hotels, rides, fun, games, and entertainment
but not any on the abortions
just on making sure they all have them
Report Post »Liberal_Atheist_Critical_Thinker
Posted on May 24, 2011 at 4:20pmtower7femacamp said -
“Does anyone on the Blaze support abortion ?”
I support a woman’s right to conttrol her body and what is in it, yes.
Report Post »DavidD
Posted on May 24, 2011 at 4:38pmSo the answer is YES, you support abortion. Except on yourself of course, thankfully your mother did not visit Planned Parenthood.
Like most liberals, you are willingly blind to the “little body within the body” instead you try to see an inconvenient clump of cells within the body. People like you should go witness multiple abortions in person, close up and in detail. Not that it would change your mind, but seeing a little body mangled and/or pumped out might be beneficial to your critical thinking abilities in the long run.
Report Post »Liberal_Atheist_Critical_Thinker
Posted on May 24, 2011 at 4:44pmI posted my response on the next page.
Report Post »mill
Posted on May 24, 2011 at 9:24pmOne need not be a liberal to have a view different than yours DavidD
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Posted on May 24, 2011 at 4:38pm
So the answer is YES, you support abortion. Except on yourself of course, thankfully your mother did not visit Planned Parenthood.
Report Post »curtmavi38
Posted on May 24, 2011 at 4:12pmAbortion, a solution from HELL.meh
Report Post »Bluebonnet
Posted on May 25, 2011 at 10:58amSpank a child and it will be taken away from the parent for being cruel. Kill a baby and it all OK? This whole thing is bassackward.
Report Post »Gonzo
Posted on May 24, 2011 at 4:06pmLike everything else, it should be a state by state decision, you know…like the founding fathers envisioned it? While Lincoln gets the credit for freeing the slaves, he should also take the blame for enslaving the states to the federal government!
Report Post »mrs-smitty
Posted on May 24, 2011 at 4:03pmI am not for abortion, I am pro-life. I have mixed feelings as to whether they should be illegal or not but the government definitely should not be funding abortions.
Report Post »mrs-smitty
Posted on May 24, 2011 at 4:00pmI am not for abortion I am pro-life, I have mixed feelings as to weather it should be illegal or not but the government definitely should not be funding it.
Report Post »Countrygirl1362
Posted on May 24, 2011 at 4:00pmThe following vaccines are grown on aborted fetal tissue – rabies, some mumps, rubella, chickenpox, hepatitis a, smallpox (some), ipv. One of the single measles vaccines is further attenuated in diploid cells. http://nccn.net/~wwithin/abortedtissue.htm
Report Post »becauseitmatters
Posted on May 24, 2011 at 5:11pmI refused to vaccinate my children because of this. Sure hope “Obama Care” doesn’t take this right away from us too. Sad how the vaccines can have such damaging results, the government protects the companies that make them, and try to force everyone to have them. It’s rediculous.
Report Post »flsnipe
Posted on May 24, 2011 at 3:59pmAn honest poll wow!
Report Post »Locked
Posted on May 24, 2011 at 4:36pmAn honest poll that says almost 80% of Americans are in favor of legal abortion, although many want some type of restrictions or have some moral reservations.
Report Post »Untameable-kate
Posted on May 24, 2011 at 4:43pmLocked
Report Post »I’m pretty sure you either made that number up or did the poll yourself at PP. Either way, most Americans are not killers, we choose life for our children.
Locked
Posted on May 24, 2011 at 4:47pmNope. Look at the poll linked in the article. Those that are against abortion in all cases is around 20% across age and sex demographics.
Report Post »Non-sequitur
Posted on May 24, 2011 at 5:15pmBut that’d mean people here would have to read the article beyond the headline. The headline tells us what to think! Stop trying to break a good, working system!
Report Post »Sparky101
Posted on May 25, 2011 at 10:46pmKate, he’s just playing with poll based statistics, to derive his 80%. It’s all in how you look at the numbers. He chooses to look at them from the left, you choose to look at them from the right. Most Americans have a problem with abortion (about 2/3s).
Report Post »tower7femacamp
Posted on May 24, 2011 at 3:58pmDoes anyone on the Blaze support Agenda 21 Codex Alimentarius ?
Report Post »mill
Posted on May 24, 2011 at 4:53pminteresting..
Report Post »obfuscatenot
Posted on May 24, 2011 at 3:53pmI am saddened that the advances in the “science” of climate change is touted and screamed from the mountaintop- because “we” are that smart……
Report Post »Think of the medical advancements since the 1970′s in imaging and living premature births. In this medically advanced world, people are MURDERING living human beings, just because they’re “inconvenient”. God be with us.
JJ Coolay
Posted on May 25, 2011 at 12:35amGreat point. very sad.
Report Post »Sparky101
Posted on May 25, 2011 at 10:42pmThey are the Bael worshippers of our day.
Report Post »NOBALONEY
Posted on May 24, 2011 at 3:53pmEnd the slaughter!
Report Post »mill
Posted on May 24, 2011 at 5:15pmHow about ENDING stickin your wiener in dark places???? that would end the whole problem
Report Post »tower7femacamp
Posted on May 24, 2011 at 3:50pmDoes anyone on the Blaze support abortion ?
Report Post »adouglass1
Posted on May 24, 2011 at 3:55pmhe double hockey sticks nooooooooo!!!!!
Report Post »becauseitmatters
Posted on May 24, 2011 at 6:41pmNot I.
Report Post »adouglass1
Posted on May 24, 2011 at 3:49pmWhy doesnt Code Pink support banning abortions? I bet that people who support abortion are glad that their parents didnt believe it. Gees the gays code pink lefties demoncrats marxists socialists etc are just really ruining the world. I think that all those are truly just from Satan the deciever. You want to take my money my rights my time my family my kids my marriage my limited government my business my GOD etc etc. Becuase you feel bad well too bad you cant have it go sulk in a corner or find a doctor that does full grown adult abortion (problem solved)
Bye Patriots
Report Post »ofallon
Posted on May 24, 2011 at 3:49pmThanks Blaze for the detailed picture of the unborn child. What a contrast with the propaganda tape that declares “any woman that needs an abortion should be able to have one safely and with dignity.”
What about the safety and dignity of the unborn child?
This is a big push for universal health care and government dependence instead of self-reliance. No more tax dollars for abortion. Give these unborn children a chance by seeing adoption. Everyone deserves life.
Report Post »nomercy63
Posted on May 24, 2011 at 3:46pmAbortion is disgusting and women that have abortions are disgusting!!!! I think that says it in a nutshell !
Report Post »becauseitmatters
Posted on May 24, 2011 at 5:07pmAnd men/boys who “play” and don’t stick around to help raise the children are the most disgusting.
Report Post »mill
Posted on May 24, 2011 at 5:13pmbecauseitmatters
Posted on May 24, 2011 at 5:07pm
And men/boys who “play” and don’t stick around to help raise the children are the most disgusting.
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THANK YOU MANY TIMES OVER.
JJ Coolay
Posted on May 25, 2011 at 12:30amReally? Really?????? You mean it’s more disgusting to have someone be a deadbeat dad than it is for someone to actually kill the baby in the first place?? Wow.
Report Post »I mean, don’t get me wrong, dead beat dads are losers. But abortion is just a tad worse. Let’s keep it in perspective, huh?
Sparky101
Posted on May 25, 2011 at 10:39pmJJ, I think if it weren’t for “deadbeat” dads, there would be very few abortions in the first place. I include deadbeat dads as anyone who impregnates a woman, not his wife, or that later leaves.
Report Post »eat-more-bacon-USA
Posted on May 24, 2011 at 3:45pmAnd in India – the butchers are working overtime – “Indian gender gap widens due to number of female foetus abortions”… there are up to 600,000 selective abortions of female foetuses in India per year….
Report Post »http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/asia/india/8533467/Indian-gender-gap-widens-due-to-number-of-female-foetus-abortions.html
tower7femacamp
Posted on May 24, 2011 at 3:56pmhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lyLI8UVdTzQ&feature=related
Report Post »00gabooga
Posted on May 24, 2011 at 3:45pmI keep seeing the poll about gay marriage touted all over the news, but this one is swept under the rug. If we’re going by majority rule then by all means lets do it. I’d give up on the gay marriage fight if it meant no more abortions.
Report Post »Bluebonnet
Posted on May 25, 2011 at 10:50amMany live immorally in different ways. Lie, cheat, steal, living unhealthy lifestyle, smoking, drinking etc. is all a lifestyle choice if that’s what you choose. Killing an unborn or late term baby is a sin against God and I don’t want to pay for women to use this as birth control. At least have the common courtesy to pay for your own sins and not make the rest of us be a party to your crime against God.
Report Post »Mary M. Tebbe
Posted on May 24, 2011 at 3:42pmAbortion is still MURDER, no matter what way you skew it.
Report Post »becauseitmatters
Posted on May 24, 2011 at 7:31pmWell stated.
Report Post »Bluebonnet
Posted on May 25, 2011 at 10:25amIt may be legal by law, but it is not legal with God.
Report Post »TexasTBone
Posted on May 24, 2011 at 3:40pmthe only difference between “abortion” and Murder is a few weeks.
Report Post »Locked
Posted on May 24, 2011 at 3:40pmHaha, nice title there. 61% in all or “almost all;” when broken down, it actually says “around 20% think abortion should be illegal in all cases.” That means around 80% of the public believes in some form of legal abortion; which means almost 4/5 Americans support keeping abortion legal. A tough audience for anti-Roe v. Wade proponents.
Interesting to note that there’s no effective difference between younger and middle-aged crowds when it comes to the “legal in any/most” subject, but older groups are much more opposed. I suppose this means that as the years go by, abortion will become a bit more acceptable overall, assuming views do not change.
Report Post »Jaycen
Posted on May 24, 2011 at 4:35pmMaybe, it‘s people’s attitudes that change as they GROW UP.
Report Post »Locked
Posted on May 24, 2011 at 4:46pmPossible, but not necessarily likely. The 55+ crowd almost entirely lived in a time when abortions were not legally protected. Most likely their views, which were formed in their early childhood, have not varied. Abortion was (and to an extent, is) stigmatized and derided; to their generation, that’s what “bad girls” did. Today it’s more “what a terrible mistake” than “you’re kicked out of your family, you slut.”
It does seem telling that the youngest generation is not more pro-abortion (unlike, say, gay marriage, where the youngest generation is overwhelmingly more for it than their parents). It’s quite possible that this will be a generational plateau, and in 50 years opinions will not change.
Report Post »Sparky101
Posted on May 25, 2011 at 10:35pmJaycen, he will not understand what you said until he grows up.
Report Post »Untameable-kate
Posted on May 24, 2011 at 3:39pmMeanwhile, ABC News reports that the abortion rate in America dropped 8 percent between 2000 and 2008. Sadly, this rate actually increased about 18 percent among the nation’s poorest women
Nuh uh! Planned parenthood is available to HELP poor women. They are not about genocide and abortion!
Report Post »Poor women need to keep their legs together or buy their boyfriends a condom and stop murdering their unwanted children.
LOOKING_BOTH_WAYS
Posted on May 24, 2011 at 3:57pmThey don’t even need a Condom, all that is needed is an Aspirin
the women holds the Aspirin between her Knees ;-)
Report Post »ADNIL
Posted on May 24, 2011 at 4:12pmPlanned Parenthood is a mis-nomer. Should be Planned UNparenthood. People who don’t want to procreate should demonstrate a little self-control. But why bother? They will not be held responsible.
What about rape? That would be unfornuate, truly, but two wrongs do not make a right, and instead of one victim you now have two. The fetus should not be killed, even for this.
Why does PP not advocate for adoption?????? There are more than enough childless couples out there who would welcom a baby into their homes. And, Planned Parenthood could be responsible for THIS, placement of unwanted babies to loving homes rather than be accomplice to murder.
A scociety is judged by how it treats its most vulnerable citizens. And what is more vulnerable than a baby in the womb? This is truly evil! The older I get, the clearer this becomes. It is no wonder we are looked upon as the great satan for this fact alone. What is “freedom” to one is death to another. I do, however support another’s right to choose. I just wish they would choose to allow life.
Report Post »Locked
Posted on May 24, 2011 at 4:42pmHow about boyfriends volunteer to wear a condom, so the girls aren’t forced to ask them or risk pregnancy? I think we can all agree that a little self-restraint on the part of every man in this country would drastically lower the abortion rate. Men, if you’re with me: do your part, wrap it up!
Report Post »Sparky101
Posted on May 25, 2011 at 10:29pmLocked says “I think we can all agree that a little self-restraint on the part of every man in this country would drastically lower the abortion rate.” And I think we can all agree that a little more restraint on both potential conceptor’s parts would decimate the abortion rate. Come on, are you with me on this. And remember your advice to JJ, that this article was about statistics? Hypocrite much?
Report Post »ThomRaasio
Posted on May 24, 2011 at 3:38pmThis is the single MOST important issue in America today. When does life begin?
There is NO POINT at which “life” did not exist in order to bring forth NEW LIFE. Were either the EGG or the SPERM, “dead”, NEW LIFE would not have taken place.
EVERY HUMAN BEING begins as ONE CELL, then in geometric progression the cells begin to multiply; 2, 4, 8, 16, 32, 64, 128, 256, 512, 1024, 2048, 4096, 8192, 16384, 32768, 65536, 131072, 262144, 524288….these numbers, alone, add up to more than 1million cells and it is all accomplished in a matter of MINUTES from the time the EGG and SPERM unite.
You can no more LIVE without your 1st cell than your first 1 million cells as ALL begin with the FIRST CELL.
In AMERICA, it WAS and IS DECLARED. WE HOLD THESE TRUTHS TO BE SELF EVIDENT, THAT ALL MEN ARE CREATED EQUAL, AND THAT THEY ARE ENDOWED, BY THEIR CREATOR, WITH CERTAIN UNALIENABLE RIGHTS, AMONG WHICH ARE “LIFE”, “LIBERTY”, AND THE “PURSUIT OF HAPPINESS”….
That “LIFE”, though “imperfect”, is an INNOCENT LIFE and until THAT LIFE does something worthy of death, it has the RIGHT TO LIFE, and NO ONE has the right to “willfully” TERMINATE an INNOCENT LIFE for any reason on earth. To PLAN the termination of an innocent life is MURDER in the First Degree, and the one who willfully, and with afore thought, terminates an “INNOCENT LIFE” shall certainly pay with their own.
Report Post »TumbleBumble
Posted on May 24, 2011 at 3:56pmTHOMRAASIO
Wonderfully put together. Anyone who argues with that is only deceiving themselves.
Report Post »Nobamazone
Posted on May 24, 2011 at 4:18pmvery well said, hopefully you don’t mind sharing that bit of wisdom because I plan to spread it!
Report Post »NSDQ
Posted on May 24, 2011 at 4:22pmStated perfectly. There is no greater evil in this world than to slaughter a helpless child in the name of inconvenience.
Report Post »Locked
Posted on May 24, 2011 at 4:39pmTYPING in CAPITAL LETTERS shows how much you CARE about your POSITION!
That’s all it really does, however. I am distressed that you say women who abort should “pay with their own.” Advocating murder (justice through killing, if you prefer) for a legal practice is a disturbing notion. Keep in mind that this poll shows that about 4/5 Americans support legal abortion in some form.
Report Post »Blackhawk1
Posted on May 24, 2011 at 5:23pmLocked
With all the Abortion is Legal argument aside. Abortion or Pro-Choice probably wouldn‘t be as big an issue if taxpayers wouldn’t be forced to fund it by the Government. If an irresponsible woman wants to have an abortion she have to PAY for it with her own money. If the man agrees then he should help fund her abortion. I would wager the individual responsibility factor would go up if these baby killers would have to pay for it themselves.
Report Post »JJ Coolay
Posted on May 25, 2011 at 12:24amLocked.. who cares what 4 out of 5 Americans support?? Is that stat supposed to convince me that abortion is now ok because 80% of Americans support it? (Whether those stats are true or not is not even the point).
Report Post »What about our divine creator? What do you think He thinks about abortion? That’s a little more important than what a nation of self-serving people choose to think.
Locked
Posted on May 25, 2011 at 8:19am@JJ
The statistics are what this entire article is about. When you leap off the topic and try to justify policies with religious ferver, you’ve lost the fight. We’re not a theocracy. You’re more than allowed to have your own opinion, but if you want to do something with it then bring something useful to the table. There are many legal paths to banning abortion, but you convince no one with arguments that only based on the messages you took away from your specific idea of religion.
Report Post »Sparky101
Posted on May 25, 2011 at 10:22pmLocked, you berate JJ, saying “The statistics are what this entire article is about. When you leap off the topic and try to justify policies with religious ferver, you’ve lost the fight. We’re not a theocracy.”
First, I suggest you actually read the article. That destroys your first insult. It also destroys your second insulting sentence. Second, I doubt you are any more intelligent or educated than JJ, and probably do not need to tell him that the USA is not a theocracy. Are you some sort of elitist, or just someone who is a legend in his own mind?
Report Post »jado1981
Posted on May 24, 2011 at 3:37pmand yet, the people who think planned parenthood should be de-funded are looked at as crazy. Abortions should be illegal, but then again, because I’m a male, and I’m not allowed to have an opinion on this…
Report Post »Locked
Posted on May 24, 2011 at 3:42pmWho says you can’t have an opinion? Argument I always heard is you can’t make the decision for someone else. When you’re pregnant (not too likely to be soon, I’d suppose), you can decide to have or not have an abortion. Anyone can have an opinion and share it; welcome to the first amendment.
Report Post »jado1981
Posted on May 24, 2011 at 4:03pm@ Locked, oh I sure do have an opinion about this issue, but I have been told that since I’m not a woman, then I have no right to decide this issue. Not from anyone I know, from others on the internet…
After having 2 kids ( or I guess my wife having two kids…) I can not see how anyone would look at that sonogram and see the fetus and then think, “oh well, kill it, I don’t want to be bothered by that thing.”
Report Post »adouglass1
Posted on May 24, 2011 at 4:06pmWell I understand that because I have been told the same thing!! Before I was married when I was in the Marines. I got my girlfriend pregnant she said she was gonna have an abortion I said the hell you are!! If you dont want the responsibility then bring my baby all the way and then sign papers and go away!! I will take on all the responsibility you just disappear. She did then I reluctantly had a paternity test done and found out the baby wasnt mine!! wtf fing word that begins with h and o, but that was also my fault for even being with her ( bad choice) young guy no excuse. Basically just people want to have casual free sex but dont think about the possible consequences that may happen as a result.
Report Post »Locked
Posted on May 24, 2011 at 4:11pm@Jado
I would never want a girlfriend of mine to have an abortion, but I would never say it was anything but her decision in the end.I can sympathize with your feelings, but I don‘t believe it’s my right to tell a woman “No. You MUST do this.”
@ADouglass
No offense, but if you woman is getting knocked up by another man, I think your first problem is who you’re sleeping with. Second is probably the rage: you’d yell at a woman and force her to carry a child? No way. Not your body, not your choice. Explain what you want, but do it like a man, being firm, presenting facts, and not lying. Don’t do it like a child, yelling, demanding, and throwing a tantrum.
Report Post »Jaycen
Posted on May 24, 2011 at 4:22pmMost importantly, if you’re the FATHER, you should definitely get an opinion. While the mother must carry the child, genetic material from two sources must be present.
Report Post »adouglass1
Posted on May 24, 2011 at 4:27pm@ Locked once again you turd I said I was young. Pay attention much? Anyways I know a perfect person like yourself would never make a mistake in life huh? I am a man u fruit I am man enough to say I made a mistake turd!! You come off as a hateful judgefull useful idiot!! I do support adult abortion as in your case though!! How dare you judge me? Like the bible says how can you judge your brother and the speck in his eye when you have a plank in yours. And also dope when did I say or write that I yelled at all? Dont add to my words to justify your stupidity. You kinda sound like a leftist with your reasoning telling other people how they should behave or how they should react. Their was only one perfect person on this planet Jesus Christ and you are not him!! Keep your judgements to yourself. Did you really and are you really saying that you havent made a mistake. I was lonely away in the miltary at 20 years old that got lied to by a girl. I guess you think that you are above ever having a girlfriend/ boyfriend cheat on you and you dont know. That shows how naive you are I say girlfriend/boyfriend because I dont know what you are you could be a hermaphrodite for all I know.
Report Post »Locked
Posted on May 24, 2011 at 4:34pm@ADouglass
As I said:
“Explain what you want, but do it like a man, being firm, presenting facts, and not lying. Don’t do it like a child, yelling, demanding, and throwing a tantrum.”
Your last rant would be an example of the latter, not the former. I’m sorry you made a mistake, but as you yourself said, you set yourself up for it. Don’t take the anger out on me; look to the Lord to quench the hellfire in your soul, and potentially talk to a doctor about the emotional trauma you suffered and a lawyer about the child support. I wish you the best.
@Jaycen
Report Post »I agree, the prospective father’s opinion must be considered. However, the decision itself I feel is ultimately up to the woman. As I suggested to ADouglass before he exploded, know who you‘re sleeping with if you think it’ll come back to haunt you. If your girlfriend doesn’t want to have a child, there’s no reason to act shocked if she chooses her (completely legal) option for an abortion.
adouglass1
Posted on May 24, 2011 at 4:36pm@ Locked the Judgemental one Also where did I say anything about lying or anything else that you said. Do you at least have a high school education where you took a basic reading comprehension class? If not you should bone up on those skills. Im done with you Mr/Mrs perfect have a great day and may God be with you!!
Report Post »adouglass1
Posted on May 24, 2011 at 4:47pm@ Locked you are so judgemental and once agian need to take a basic comprehension class. If so you would have read that I said that I found out the baby wasnt mine so why would I have paid child support? uh duh!! You are a clown the only one with any anger issues is you and your judgementalism oh so perfect one!!! Except when it comes to basic reading comprehension lol. Also I suggest you read your bible and consult the lord more about you should be acting before you judge others. At least I have something in my soul unlike you!! If you dont want to be insulted dont insult anyone. I acted in self defense of your behavior i.e. you fired the first shot so I shot back!! Plain and simple oh so perfect one!! God bless you and read up on hypocrisy..
Report Post »Locked
Posted on May 24, 2011 at 5:03pm@ADouglass
Wait… so your girlfriend got pregnant, you told her to have the child and you’d support it, she did although she didn’t want to, and then when you found out it wasn’t yours you left her and refused to pay child support.
Wow. Her actions were not right, but yours are revolting. May you spend many a night praying for salvation. Instead of being the bigger man, swallowing your pride and raising the child you demanded be brought into the world, you shunned her and the child you pledged to raise. May God forgive you, and may you find the peace you need within your soul.
Report Post »adouglass1
Posted on May 24, 2011 at 5:55pmLocked You have issues and still need to take a basic reading comprehension class!! I of course you dope took care of her and the baby all the way up to and past it being born. I had a paternity test done after being told by my mother. The baby wasnt mine why would I keep paying child support. But like I said if you knew how to read where did any of what you assume happen or where did I say any of that? Answer nowhere you are simply adding words where you should have not!! Judgemental one and oh so perfect!! By the way information that wasnt presented by me and was by someone who was not their (you) is not at all correct right or true at all. So do you pretend to be perfect or do you just pass yourself off as that? I often find that those that do often have skeletons in their closets like wearing dresses or liking little boys etc etc. Also she decided to keep the baby we broke up I moved duty stations so no I wouldnt take care of a child that wasnt mine.. I have a family now and take very good care of them… thanks for the talk perfect one!! Judge much? take your plank out.. God bless you!!!
Report Post »angelcat
Posted on May 24, 2011 at 6:08pmLocked, then we should all have a choice as to whether to murder someone or not. Murder is murder, whether before or after birth. Women have a choice to have sex or not, use birth control or not in all but rape.
Report Post »quicker
Posted on May 24, 2011 at 6:49pmThru it all ,just remember God don`t make no junk.
Report Post »JJ Coolay
Posted on May 25, 2011 at 12:17amI find it pretty amazing that we even have this discussion as to who has what rights. What I mean is, while I agree that the father should be able to have some say in the matter—IF there was even a discussion about it—I disagree that it even should get to that point. How in the world have we gotten to where it even becomes a discussion as to what the rights are and whose those rights belong to?? I mean, the person inside the mother IS NOT the mother’s body. It is a human being unto itself and that baby has MORE rights to be born than any woman or man has the right to stop it from being born. Therefore the discussion as to whether the woman has the right to choose is really a moot point because while she does have the rights to her own body, the baby she carries is not her own body.
Report Post »Locked
Posted on May 25, 2011 at 8:14am@Angelcat
If you want to argue abortion gives you the right to kill anyone you like, I’d recommend NOT taking that defense to your murder trial. Abortion is legal, and 80% of the country (according to this poll) agrees it should be. You’re part of the 20%, and that’s fine for your opinion… just try not to act on, please.
@ADouglass
It seems I was right in this, sadly. You forced a woman to have a child, then refused to raise that child despite saying you would. Hope you’ve cared for current family better. May God bless and guide you.
Report Post »adouglass1
Posted on May 25, 2011 at 11:43am@ Locked you are a real piece work might I suggest you still take a basic reading comprehension class as you are such a child. You are the perfect oh so judgemental one, im not wasting anymore of my time with you as you are a waste of time!!! And as far as my family goes take your so called worry and shove it where the sun dont shine!! You are probably a liberal pretending on this site so you can force feed your (opinion) down everyones throat!! And that is exactly what your opinion your opinion you know nothing about me *****!! And I dam sure dont want to know anything about a loser like you!! (my opinion) only a douchebag like you would just force their supposed greatness down others throat. Like I said earlier its those that profess to be so perfect that have the most skeletons in their closet, like liking little boys or wearing dresses etc!!
God bless your miserable soul!!!
Report Post »adouglass1
Posted on May 25, 2011 at 12:33pm@ locked your point is mute you want to force the man to just shut up when it in fact is also part of the man, i.e. it takes two. Is that so dopes like yourself can spread their vile seed with no consequences? Man and Woman both need to know that if you are having sex and make a baby its your responsibility to take care of the baby not get rid of it because its inconvenient. And that is exactly what I did if you knew how to read or comprehend!! Get out of your skirt and stop touching little boys judgemental one, peace out!!
Report Post »bobodu
Posted on May 25, 2011 at 1:23pmThing is….the most vocal group of people against abortion are males. The largest segment of those in favor of women’s rights are women. So go ahead and push your ideology on them, then watch your chance at a Presidential slot die.
Report Post »Sparky101
Posted on May 25, 2011 at 10:30pmI vote for Adouglass.
Report Post »adouglass1
Posted on May 26, 2011 at 12:33pm@ Sparky thanks for the vote but im not running yet I am not well versed in lying so I could not be a politician yet. lol I need more training!! But alas thanks…..
Report Post »siebegorman
Posted on May 24, 2011 at 3:36pmYep, it would be nice if y’all would stop murdering babies.
Report Post »Just saying, it would be nice.
tower7femacamp
Posted on May 24, 2011 at 3:49pmhuman Slaves do not count.
Report Post »only Reptiles
Bluebonnet
Posted on May 25, 2011 at 9:36am“They” call it abortion. I call it “Murder” and it is. Just stop and think about it prayerfully for once. We as a country are more outraged by an animal being mistreated than an unborn child. Yes, I‘m outraged by people who hurt animals more than you’d know, but thinking about killing an unborn child is barbaric. And Obama voted for late term abortion which is even more barbaric and sickening.
We read in history where babies are sacrificed to the “Gods” and think they must be savages to do this. Well???? Looks like the same thing to me. Barbaric and savage for easy disposal but God knows who you are.
Report Post »rose-ellen
Posted on May 25, 2011 at 10:24amThat even the so called right wing is virtually silent when it comes to the holoqcaust that is part of america exposes how manipulated the right is tby propaganda.Sooner or later the right accepts whatever they are told to accept.Fox’s only intereest is that you want to kill arabs and commit genocide against them so israel can take over the whole mid east.Fox could care less about the mass murder of the unborn and these politicians like good brainwashed lackeys don’t care either.even oReilly[a professed catholic]said a human is whatever the supreme court says is a human and therefore he will not say that a fetus is a human being.Another one of his catholic cohorts [Megyn Kelly] said she would not comment on whether she’s against abortion.Amazing yet it shows the power of the media in manipulating even professed catholics to be cowed about speaking the scientic truth that a fetus is biologically a human being and to kill it is to violate basic ethics[no matter what your religion or lack of religion].Good brainwahed sheep.
Report Post »oldasdirt
Posted on May 24, 2011 at 3:36pmYou can put me on that list.
Report Post »We need Col/Allen West to run.
Creestof
Posted on May 24, 2011 at 3:45pmMy idea…a metal crotch girdle with an electronic lock on it which connects via satelite to your bank account. When you have enough to afford a brat, you slide the special ATM card through the slot on the girdle, the funds get deducted and placed in a “For Baby Raising only” account, and then the lock disengages allowing the woman to spread her legs. If after a doctor declares her non-prego, the lock is engaged again and the funds transferred back to her regular account.
Pretty simple.
Report Post »Mary M. Tebbe
Posted on May 24, 2011 at 3:46pmoldasdirt: Why? I don’t know anything about his record yet, and though I ask, no one seems to have one. Is it just because he is black?
Report Post »tower7femacamp
Posted on May 24, 2011 at 3:48pmWhy would anyone support Abortion or Agenda 21 ?
http://herestheblood.com/
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tJ5MOe5muAU
Report Post »NSDQ
Posted on May 24, 2011 at 4:04pmRace is not a factor as to why we love Col. West. He is a self made man with solid leadership experience who believes in speaking the truth over sugar coated political correctness, He will tell you what he believes in and support his arguments on historical facts. Being an Army Colonel made him a realist by necessity due to the life or death decisions he had to make in Afghanistan and Iraq. He is a frontline leader not afraid or timid of confrontation and speaks his mind. He is not trying to be a career politician, who speaks out of both sides of his mouth to placate to the masses and secure a reelection. He believes in responsibility and to wit, when you have maxed out your credit cards you dont go and get another ie raise the debt ceiling. He is a leader in politics, but not a politician. He has my vote for POTUS should he seek to take up that mantle.
Report Post »EnoughBS
Posted on May 24, 2011 at 4:10pmCreestof,
You have some serious issues.
Pretty simple.
Report Post »Whitey4West
Posted on May 24, 2011 at 4:14pmMary, maybe you could answer your own question, if you would do a little research. Search for Allen West on youtube. If you’re a conservative, you’ll probably like him…If you’re not, you probably won’t.
Report Post »Elena2010
Posted on May 24, 2011 at 4:17pm@Creestof — what abt the man? It does take two to make a baby!
I’m pro-choice – the first choice is to have sex or not. The second choice is to use some manner of prevention if you don’t want to reproduce. Abortion is NOT a choice; it’s selfish and inhumane.
Let’s give up welfare and stop paying children of the inner city to have children. Let’s teach their parents abt parenting properly. Children are a gift fm God not a piece of tissue to cut away. If you can’t afford them, consider adoption.
God is not amused by abortion. History is littered with dead societies who have sacrificed children for various reasons. Ours is next…it’s what happens when mortals try to assume the position of the Immortal One and defy His laws and reject His loving kindness.
Report Post »Nobamazone
Posted on May 24, 2011 at 4:26pmcreestof
Report Post »I assume that the atm would accept the potential dads card as well right?
I am 100% pro life, but lets not forget, these moms would not most likely not qualify for assistance if the dad’s were paying. Not letting the mom off the hook here either, she is just as much responsible! Our whole system encourages it. To you men out there who have been told it is not your business I say KEEP SAYING YES IT IS with you vote. Abortion did not become legal in this country without the men in high places, and it continues to be legal because of both male and female votes.
Anonymous T. Irrelevant
Posted on May 24, 2011 at 4:31pmHeard this on El-Rushbo earlier. Seemed kind of high to me, but I hope it is true.
Report Post »Al J Zira
Posted on May 24, 2011 at 4:34pm@Mary M. Tebbe: If you do a search you’ll find his stance on abortion. He’s against abortion and wants to defund Planned Parenthood.
Report Post »Anonymous T. Irrelevant
Posted on May 24, 2011 at 4:35pm@Elena2010
Report Post »I agree with you, except that not only is a baby not just a piece of tissue to be cut away, it has it’s own self-distinguishing DNA and is not just a part of a woman’s body as many would argue. A baby is it’s own person.
oldasdirt
Posted on May 24, 2011 at 4:36pm@Mary M. Tebbe
Report Post »You asked why Col.Allen West.I seen his commints to our troops.I have seen his opinion on abortion.
The patioit ack I was not in 100% agreement with,,but no single politicion gets 100% from me.
Please Mary M Tebbe.Go to his site and sign in,it is easy,,and has many videos of his opinions,and speeches..We also have a chat room,we meet most days around 5 or 6 in the PM.
http://www.allenwestnation.com/content.php
grandma7
Posted on May 24, 2011 at 4:38pmOldasdirt,
Report Post »Agree 100%
oldasdirt
Posted on May 24, 2011 at 4:39pm@Mary M. Tebbe
Report Post »Mary,,is Col.West balck?
Guess I better check on that.
booger71
Posted on May 24, 2011 at 4:44pmAbortion and gay marriage issues should have never been a “federal” issue, and like most social issues should be a states rights issue.
Report Post »jhaydeng
Posted on May 24, 2011 at 5:07pmI think people are tired of being wishy washy and are finding what they truly believe! I know I have!
Report Post »D0ntTread0nMe
Posted on May 24, 2011 at 5:17pmPut my name on the never list also… action-re-action… both equal and opposite… or if you like, actions=consequences. After all, we don’t want to punish the baby.
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thegrassroots
Posted on May 24, 2011 at 5:17pm52+ Million Babies Brutally Murdered Since Roe v Wade Passed In 1973! Jane Roe is Against abortion for any reason, now. So is Bernard Nathanson, MD, who was a force behind getting roe v wade passed.
Their stories can be easily found on the internet. Search “Norma McCorvey aka Jane Roe” and “Bernard Nathanson, MD.” Dr Nathanson authored: “Silent Scream” and other pro-life films.
Report Post »Gold Coin & Economic News
Posted on May 24, 2011 at 5:26pm@tower7femacamp
If the MSM were to ever show those kinds of videos and tell America the real truth about what really goes on in these abortion death camps, we would be done with abortion in a matter of a few months. Those statistics would be more like 99% of people would be against this horrendous lie that has been thrust upon our nation.
I weep every time I see videos like that.
Report Post »Cemoto78
Posted on May 24, 2011 at 6:41pmplease put me in the pro-life group, murder is murder.
Report Post »thegrassroots
Posted on May 24, 2011 at 6:59pm@gold coin …
Report Post »I weep too! It’s all so heart-wrenching to think about. Among those 52+ million murdered babies, we’ll never know if God had the cures for Cancer and all that plagues mankind contained in those minds. Mankind is still on a relentless search for those answers. Maybe we don’t have those answers because the people with the minds that held them never had a chance to even breathe their first breath. What can become of a people who murders their own children? God have mercy and sweep the cobwebs away and open eyes and fill everyone with the Light Of Your Truth!
tomsinclairjr
Posted on May 24, 2011 at 7:04pmELENA2010:
“it’s what happens when mortals try to assume the position of the Immortal One and defy His laws and reject His loving kindness.”
WOW….the Holy Spirit has spoken through you. THANK YOU.
Report Post »Edct
Posted on May 24, 2011 at 8:43pmWhy….because it is MURDER.
Report Post »tomsinclairjr
Posted on May 24, 2011 at 9:27pmOn August 18, 2005, Israeli settlers were forcibly removed from their homes in Gaza by Prime Minister Ariel Sharon. Sharon was acting under tremendous pressure from US President George W. Bush. Less than four months later Sharon suffered a stroke and remains in a coma. It was during that mid-August time frame that what would become the deadliest American hurricane in 77 years was forming. At the same time homosexuals in New Orleans were planning a large rally. Hurricane Katrina slammed into the US coast on August 25 and left some 1,836 deaths in its wake. The news media blistered Bush on his lack of response to the people who suffered and died from Katrina.
Report Post »Fast forward to today. The current president has placed continued pressure on Israel to return to indefensible 1967 borders and give the rest of the land to hostile Arabs and terrorists in the name of peace. In his arrogance, he has publicly sided with Islam and Islamic revolution throughout the Middle East in making it US policy to overthrow governments there in the name of reform. As in Egypt, democracy ushered in control by the previously banned Muslim Brotherhood, another terrorist group, now supported by the White House. During this time frame, tornados and floods have covered the United States in record numbers. Floodwaters have been so deep that the Mississippi River flowed backwards.
JRook
Posted on May 24, 2011 at 10:09pmAh yes as my father used to say….statistics don’t lie, liars use statistics. This issue is so old and out of touch to be a yawn at best. Roe v. Wade while not perfect and perhaps in need of some revision given the latest technology is the best the government can do and all they should do. I am surprised that a group which wants smaller government and claims to be steadfast in support of individual freedom would have a problem with a women’s RIGHT to reproductive freedom, at least in the context of Roe v. Wade. The only questionable procedure is late term abortions which should be technically illegal under R v W. Seriously, move on people… worry about your own rights.
Report Post »Ephelia
Posted on May 24, 2011 at 11:44pmNo, it‘s not just because he’s black. Don’t be ridiculous. You’re thinking of the Left wing Obama phenomenon.
It’s because Col West is VERY conservative. He’s the real thing. He’s a battle hardened, loyal soldier, so he’s not going to let a bunch of Left wing flower children scare him from speaking his mind. We feel that with West, conservative things will REALLY start to happen. He is not a stinking Rhino.
Plus, the Left wing zealots consistently try to shout down his public speeches. THAT is a very, very good sign.
WEST IN 2012!! American NEEDS you Col West. Please, please run..
Report Post »thelonious
Posted on May 25, 2011 at 2:10amABORTION SHOULD BE LEGAL FOR ANY WOMAN! Not necessarily at the taxpayers expense but it’s selfish for other people besides the two mates involved to think that they have any say whatsoever. It is soo incredibly hypothetical and abstract to consider that the fetal human has a right to be born. Humans only become actual beings through many months of exploration, data-sensory recording, and independent reactions; that’s why none of us can remember our first few years of life, we weren’t ourselves we were building our computer/brains! You uber-right wing evangelicals are just opposed because you’re afraid the second coming of christ will be aborted. Admit it!
Report Post »spikebu
Posted on May 25, 2011 at 2:55am@thelonious. Okay. Explain to me how we, as a nation, can recognize an Eagle resides inside of a fertilized Eagle egg, but we are unable to recognize the same in a Human egg? What makes an Eagle more valuable than a Human Being? I can be arrested, fined and/or jailed for destroying an Eagle egg. Please explain.
Report Post »spikebu
Posted on May 25, 2011 at 3:06am@thelonious He’s not coming as a baby. He’ll return as The Lion of the Tribe of Judah. He was already born of Man. He ain’t gonna do it again.
Report Post »bobodu
Posted on May 25, 2011 at 7:02amC’mon….keeping pushing your morality on others. Jam your own version of Sharia Law down our throats.
Report Post »How very hypocritical of you. You will lose again and again if you wanna keep pushing ABOOOOORSION at the ballot box.
thegrassroots
Posted on May 25, 2011 at 11:05amIt’s amazing that my Border Collie knows that Mothers lay down their lives for their Babies – Babies don’t lay down their lives for their Mothers. God help the man or beast that would try to harm one of her pups!
What kind of twisting of thought does it take for a Mother to so separate herself from her own Baby, that she can come to so despise her own Baby, that she will choose to kill her own Baby?
Report Post »bobodu
Posted on May 25, 2011 at 11:47am“Why would anyone support Abortion ?”
Because I do not believe Government has a right to dictate morality or exercise control over a woman’s reproduction. Maybe you would have people just stone pregnant women?? I hope you will step up to the plate and pay for the health,education and welfare of these unwanted children if you have your way. I doubt that you would though.
Report Post »adouglass1
Posted on May 25, 2011 at 11:50am@ locked your basic point is also mute you want to force the man to just shut up when it in fact is also part of the man, i.e. it takes two. Is that so dopes like yourself can spread their vile seed with no consequences. Man and Woman both need to know that if you are having sex and make a baby its your responsibility to take care of the baby not get rid of it because its inconvenient. And that is exactly what I did if you knew how to read or comprehend!! Get out of your skirt and stop touching little boys judgemental one, peace out!!
Report Post »thegrassroots
Posted on May 25, 2011 at 12:04pmWhat kind of thought process does it take for a Mother to not want her own Baby?
There are a whole lot of people who are unable to have children, who would LOVE to adopt those “unwanted” babies. Sadly, those aborting Mothers have so convinced themselves that their Babies are unwanted by them, that they can’t see beyond themselves and into the happiness those Babies would bring to childless people.
In spite of the lies those Mothers tell themselves to convince themselves that they are not carrying a Human Baby from the moment of conception – They Are Carrying A Live Human Baby!
Report Post »Sparky101
Posted on May 25, 2011 at 9:51pmjrook, in typical liberal attempts to re-direct the discussion says “..I am surprised that a group which wants smaller government and claims to be steadfast in support of individual freedom would have a problem with a women’s RIGHT to reproductive freedom,” First, there is no right to reproductive freedom enumerated in the Constitution, however there is a right to life. Second, you mention individual freedom but only speak to the mother’s rights. You typically forget the rights of the totally defenseless human she conceived. Mister, there are two “individuals” involved, and you will kill the one that can’t fight back. Real man much?
Report Post »Sparky101
Posted on May 25, 2011 at 9:59pmbobodu says”C’mon….keeping pushing your morality on others. Jam your own version of Sharia Law down our throats.” So, Bubu, aren’t you in essence saying “Instead, let me stuff my murderous morality down your throats”? In other words, it’s okay for you to do what you chastise others for?
Report Post »Sparky101
Posted on May 25, 2011 at 10:03pmBubu, you say “I hope you will step up to the plate and pay for the health,education and welfare of these unwanted children if you have your way.” So, you are against paying to educate children you don’t want? Then don’t conceive them. How many of them are yours so far?
Report Post »EthanAllenReasonTheOnlyOracleOfMan
Posted on May 26, 2011 at 12:28pmThose who oppose abortion argue that it is Infanticide. Do they believe that any women who have aborted a fetus are guilty of 1st degree murder and subject to the death penalty? I mean, if we concede the premise that upon conception a zygot is a full human being, terminating them is murder. It is estimated that over 60% of pregnancies in NYC end in abortion, should we try and execute these women for murder?? This reasoning is what has led me to be pro-choice. Life may begin at conception, but the child’s personality and consciousness are un-developed. I haven’t been convinced that we are discussing an actual person but a potential person. In a decision between the life of the fetus and the monther, it is whether to side with the actual over the potential.
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