8-Year-Old Inspires Protests After Radical Jews Call Her a ‘Whore,’ Spit on Her
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Naama Margolese, 8, sits with her mother Hadassa in their home in the central Israeli town of Beit Shemesh, Monday, Dec 26, 2011. (AP Photo/Oded Balilty)
BEIT SHEMESH, Israel (The Blaze/AP) — A shy 8-year-old schoolgirl has unwittingly found herself on the front line of Israel’s latest religious war.
Naama Margolese is a ponytailed, bespectacled second-grader who is afraid of walking to her religious Jewish girls school for fear of ultra-Orthodox extremists who have spat on her and called her a whore for dressing “immodestly.”
Her plight has drawn new attention to the simmering issue of religious coercion in Israel, and the increasing brazenness of extremists in the insular ultra-Orthodox Jewish community. The Blaze first mentioned Naama over the weekend, when we reported about a television news crew that was attacked by these same extremists.
“When I walk to school in the morning I used to get a tummy ache because I was so scared … that they were going to stand and start yelling and spitting,” the pale, blue-eyed girl said softly in an interview with The Associated Press Monday. “They were scary. They don’t want us to go to the school.”
The girls school that Naama attends in the city of Beit Shemesh, to the west of Jerusalem, is on the border between an ultra-Orthodox neighborhood and a community of modern Orthodox Jewish residents, many of them American immigrants.
The ultra-Orthodox consider the school, which moved to its present site at the beginning of the school year, an encroachment on their territory. Dozens of black-hatted men jeer and physically accost the girls almost daily, claiming their very presence is a provocation.
Beit Shemesh has long experienced friction between the ultra-Orthodox, who make up about half the city’s population, and other residents. And residents say the attacks at the girls’ school, attended by about 400 students, have been going on for months. Last week, after a local TV channel reported about the school and interviewed Naama’s family, a national uproar ensued.
The televised images of Naama sobbing as she walked to school shocked many Israelis, elicited statements of outrage from the country’s leadership, sparked a Facebook page with nearly 10,000 followers dedicated to “protecting little Naama” and plans for a demonstration later Tuesday in her honor. As the case has attracted attention, extremists have heckled and thrown eggs and rocks at journalists descending on town.
“Who’s afraid of an 8-year-old student?” said Sunday’s main headline in the leading Yediot Ahronot daily.
Beit Shemesh’s growing ultra-Orthodox population has erected street signs calling for the separation of sexes on the sidewalks, dispatched “modesty patrols” to enforce a chaste female appearance and hurled stones at offenders and outsiders. Walls of the neighborhood are plastered with signs exhorting women to dress modestly in closed-necked, long-sleeved blouses and long skirts.
Naama’s case has been especially shocking because of her young age and because she attends a religious school and dresses with long sleeves and a skirt. Extremists, however, consider even that outfit, standard in mainstream Jewish religious schools, to be immodest.
Thousands of people were expected at Tuesday evening’s demonstration. Ahead of the gathering, President Shimon Peres urged the public to attend.
“The demonstration today is a test for the people and not just the police,” Peres told a gathering of Israeli ambassadors. “All of us … must defend the image of the state of Israel from a minority that is destroying national solidarity and expressing itself in an infuriating way.”
The abuse and segregation of women in Israel in ultra-Orthodox areas is nothing new, and critics accuse the government of turning a blind eye.
Israeli President Shimon Peres (AP Photo)
The ultra-Orthodox are perennial king-makers in Israeli coalition politics – two such parties serve as key members of the ruling coalition. They receive generous government subsidies, and police have traditionally been reluctant to enter their communities.
The ultra-Orthodox Jews make up 10 percent of Israel’s population and are its fastest growing sector because of a high birth rate. In the past, they have generally confined their strict lifestyle to their own neighborhoods. But they have become increasingly aggressive in trying to impose their ways on others, as their population has grown and spread to new areas.
“It is clear that Israeli society is faced with a challenge that I am not sure it can handle,” said Menachem Friedman, a professor emeritus of Bar Ilan University and expert on the ultra-Orthodox, “a challenge that is no less and no more than an existential challenge.”
Most of Israel’s secular majority, in cities like Tel Aviv and Haifa, is not directly affected, but in a few places like Beit Shemesh – a city of 100,000 people that include ultra-Orthodox, modern Orthodox and secular Jews – tensions have erupted into the open.
Last week, a young Israeli woman caused a nationwide uproar when she refused a religious man’s order to move to the back of a bus.
In Beit Shemesh, parents in Naama’s school take turns escorting their daughters into school property to protect them. The parents, too, have been cursed and spat upon.
Hadassa Margolese, Naama’s 30-year-old Chicago-born mother, an Orthodox Jew who covers her hair and wears long sleeves and a long skirt, says, “It shouldn’t matter what I look like. Someone should be allowed to walk around in sleeveless shirts and pants and not be harassed.”
City spokesman Matityahu Rosenzweig condemned the violence but said it is the work of a small minority and has been taken out of proportion. “Every society has its fringes, and the police should take action on this,” he said.
JTA has more about a Tuesday evening rally that’s set to protest against these startling developments:
Thousands are expected to participate in a rally in the Jerusalem suburb of Beit Shemesh against women’s exclusion and violence against females by haredi Orthodox men.
The rally is set to be held Tuesday evening near a national religious girls school which has been at the center of the controversy. [...]
The rally was organized on Facebook. More than 4,000 users have already responded on the Hebrew Facebook page, “1,000 Israelis are going to Beit Shemesh to protect little Na’ama” that they will be attending. Some 10,000 people are expected to participate.
For Margolese, the recent clashes – and the price of exposing her young daughter – boil down to a fight over her very home.
“They want to push us out of Beit Shemesh. They want to take over the city,” said Margolese.
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Noahide Ron
Posted on December 27, 2011 at 10:33am“The ultra-Orthodox are perennial king-makers in Israeli coalition politics – two such parties serve as key members of the ruling coalition.”
There’s an interesting nugget of information.
It is possible the Israeli Leftists, Secularists and media are exploiting this situation [girl] to go after supporters of Netanyahu in an effort to unbalance him and his party.
Report Post »Even Obama/Clinton want “Regime Change” in Israel, and all that “Arab Spring” the Israelis experienced with the Social Justice marches/protests earlier this year is all connected with what’s happening now in Beit Shemesh.
Israel had better be careful. . .
Wasn’t the Second Temple destroyed because of “two Jews arguing?”
Then again, sometimes even the haredi are wrong.
tzion
Posted on December 27, 2011 at 1:01pmActually, I would take this as the number one flaw in the Israeli political system. Israel is a Parliamentary Democracy. After each election, no single party has a majority. To decide on who the Prime Minister will be, the party leaders with the most seats will seek to “gain the support” of other parties to form a coalition. Methods of persuasion include offering certain subsidies, granting cabinet positions, and agreeing on certain policies. The extreme religious parties often cast the deciding vote in each case.
I seem to remember Glenn once talking about this. In many ways the system promotes corruption and fails to separate powers. America’s system (in its proper form) works infinitely better.
Report Post »Lateris
Posted on December 27, 2011 at 7:50pmOne thing to note is that Jews are protesting against the ill treatment of this innocent child. A lot of the trolls here fail to watch or read the entire story. It is time for this particular Orthodox sect, and I mean this with respect, to reform. Children are not to be shamed like this. These are your neighbors. Shame on you.
Report Post »V-Forge
Posted on December 27, 2011 at 8:04pmLet me be very clear. My support of the jewish people is because of my perception of them as a good and kind people. I have met many who are but this nonsense of spitting on little girls will get them all shoved in ovens next time. I grew up in a place that really didn’t know what Jews were until my teens and i formed my own opinion once i met some. I will stand with israel when the time comes but thewy need to realize that it is this extreme view that has gotten them hunted down and killed everywhere they are chased to. It is not just a jew vs jew attitude. Any that enter these areas are subject to abuse by this particular group. They are as dangerously zealoted as any muslim group. It is this mentality that makes them hated by most of the uncivilized world. They hide behind safe walls provided by people that they would spit on and call immoral. When the boundaries are redrawn the muslims can have them. I will not stand with those that would toss rocks at my head and spit on me while i fend off their real enemies. I have no love for them any more than i do the KKK and their stupid views. Trash is trash, take it out.
Report Post »Jinglebob
Posted on December 27, 2011 at 8:31pmWere they all friends of Bill Mather?
Report Post »Cesium
Posted on December 28, 2011 at 2:30am@vforge These “Hassids” don’t represent the history of the jewish people.. they came around in the 1700s. They are just proof the more devout you are the more insane you are.
Report Post »amerigramma
Posted on December 28, 2011 at 4:33pmIn response to ZengaPA65, Christians have not been at war against Islam for hundreds of years. The Muslim persons and Nations are still living in the Dark Ages and feel compelled to bring about their own version of Armageddon and the “3rd Imam”. Whether you believe that or not, THEY DO. We defended them in Yugoslavia, Afghanistan, Kuwait and many other places and their response was to attack civilians on American soil. They should be shouting our praises, not spreading lies like you do.
Report Post »Mgindi26
Posted on December 29, 2011 at 11:24amOk let‘s get some details cleared up that the blaze didn’t get from repeating the Israeli news sources.
Report Post »1. The Haredi ( ultra orthodox) community as a whole DOES NOT in any way think that spitting on aany way condone demeaning another person especially a child because of thier dress.
2.Within the community there is a very small fringe group of peoplewho unfortumatwly do not umderstand that while modesty is a good thing, it can’t be enfourced by treating someone badly. The personust choose for themselves to dress modestly.
3. While this might not make sense to someone unfamiliar with the jewish relogous law,there is a concept of not mixing men and women together. This is not because women are subservient to men,Judaism doesnt say that. Rather it is a fence to protect each other from even the temptaion of promicuity. Jews believe the only members of the opposite sex you should have physical contact with is either your spouse,children,or grandparents. When people get married it is a holy union and there is sanctity there. The buses that are being commented on are a private lin for that section of the city, and the peolple choose to be seperated. It bears no resmblence to segregation.
The thing is that the left wing im Israel wants to bring down Bibi and the religous parties are in his coaltion. So they are using the left wing media to invent a contraversey to drive a wedge in the coalition, and at the same time malign the observant jews. Just like here the left uses hard
shogun459
Posted on December 27, 2011 at 10:33amHaving spent 2 1/2 years in Germany. While there I researched evidence of the holocaust and how the German people turned on one another.
Report Post »I have to say these ‘men’ would make good Brown Shirts.
sonnyboy1
Posted on December 27, 2011 at 10:57amI was thinking the same thing myself. Jewish people should be the most tolerant of others, no matter how they dress, think or believe. On the belief part, they should not be tolerant of those who wish to destroy their country. One would think that they would remember their own history and remember what this kind of unreasonable hate brought about for them.
Report Post »rrjenn
Posted on December 27, 2011 at 11:45amultra-Orthodox Jews sound like radical Muslims to me. Is there really that much of a difference between these two religions? I don’t see it.
Report Post »tzion
Posted on December 27, 2011 at 12:45pm@RRJenn
Report Post »As a Jew familiar with this sect, the answer o your question is no. The only difference is one of degree and, if this story is any indication, that degree is shrinking. These people used to be isolationists but this goes far beyond that. Other incidents include Ultra-Orthodox meeting with the Iranian President, calling for Israel’s destruction, and cursing (real cursing) Israeli officials who offer to give up land.
ZengaPA65
Posted on December 27, 2011 at 12:49pmIs there any difference between Muslims that want to kill Christians and Christians that want to kill Muslims? I don’t see it.
Report Post »Cause4Liberty
Posted on December 27, 2011 at 12:56pm@ANTI-PAULIST’s…. Even knowing RP DID NOT call Israel an “apartheid” nation. The Liberal party in Israel, HAS just shown you the ‘apartheid’ conditions. Why dont y’all call those orthodox jews anti-semites!?!?? They’re discriminating and segregating against other jewish people!!?? Where are you to cry Anti-semitism? You FooLs, open your eyes. Liberty Defined IS on point! and theBlaze, just PROVED it. Its indoctrinated people like emily schrader, whom prolly has NEVER been to Israel to see these conditions. But they want, what is in their special Interest. You American Evangelicals DO NOT speak for Israel. As a Baptist Christian, I see MANY people soliciting the Bible’s meaning of Blessing Israel. You/WE ARE NOT the dictators of God’s separate soverign nation.
Support Israel by EMPOWERING them. You know one of those “e” things GB preached about!
Criticism IS NOT always anti-semitism!
WAKE UP!
RON PAUL 2012!
ShadowmaSSofSC
Posted on December 27, 2011 at 12:58pmThere will be stupid, radicaly religious intolerent people in every religion. Stupidity spreads on a vast scope.
Report Post »TH30PH1LUS
Posted on December 27, 2011 at 1:36pmULTRA-ORTHODOX: do you believe in a God who spits at you, who curses you and hurls stones at you every time you fail to measure up to every single one of His commands?
I seem to recall Him describing himself as extremely patient and merciful to Moses when He revealed His glory.
“And he passed in front of Moses, proclaiming, “The LORD, the LORD, the compassionate and gracious God, slow to anger, abounding in love and faithfulness…”
Report Post »dandelion8002
Posted on December 27, 2011 at 1:46pmבס”ד
Amazing to me. One report about a fringe, extremist element within the hareidi community, and an even teenier slice of the Jewish people as a whole and the antisemitic (Judeophobic) elements come crawling out from under their slimey rocks to express their vitriol, not against those specific peopple who perpetrate these acts, but against the Jewish people in general…or the “Orthodox” in general. Likening us to Jihadi extremists?!? Really? (I won’t paint with a broad brush re Muslims…)
Did the non-Jewish world think all Jews are perfect? And when we prove otherwise, that we have problematic people within our ranks just like any other people…the nasty comments I read below this piece is what we can expect, even from some who claim to be our friends?.
Be careful people. The Middle East is a complex place. There are elements within Israeli society that are trying to paint the entire hareidi community (what this article refers to as “ultra-Orthodox”, which in itself is an insulting term) with a broad brush and they are doing so for political reasons, often because the hareidi community takes a strong stand against giving land to the enemies of the Jewish people — for any reason.
I myself am not hareidi but I have hareidi friends, some to whom I am very close. By and large, this is a lovely community, made up of the most kind, respectful people I’ve ever met, really the salt of the earth. They are embarrassed by the behavior of these few.
Report Post »Lateris
Posted on December 27, 2011 at 1:53pmThere is a big difference- they don’t put bombs on their bodies. And comparing Jews to brown shirts is crap and utter mire. Try reaching out too people first. Number one they are wrong.Number two, these men will be arrested by Israeli law. Unlike in Mecca where there are beheading’s every Friday right? Or int he US where a a man was peppered sprayed to death. The treatment of this child is wrong. Period. Israel will not tolerate it. No mans actions can defend against child abuse by religion. Know your Israeli law before you post.
Report Post »scheduler
Posted on December 27, 2011 at 2:18pmGood for her.
http://politicalbowl.com – Political Videos
Report Post »pennswoods
Posted on December 27, 2011 at 3:52pmLook up on Youtube or Google: Ovadia Josef…. This former Orthodox Chief Rabbi of Jerusalem spews the most hatefilled garbage against Gentiles I have ever heard. Some of his rants against non Jews made it to the Jerusalem Post where he claimed that Gentiles “….were made by G-d to serve Jews…..” The problem i have is that Ovadia Josef has the ear of Israel’s leaders like Netanyahu and others.
Report Post »Lawrence7
Posted on December 27, 2011 at 4:33pmZengaPA65 – Posted on December 27, 2011 at 12:49pm – “Is there any difference between Muslims that want to kill Christians and Christians that want to kill Muslims? I don’t see it.”
Only that most Christians don’t want to kill Muslims, while most Muslims do want to kill both Jews and Christians and non-believers, and anyone not Muslim.
Report Post »loriann12
Posted on December 27, 2011 at 5:04pmThey don’t sound that different from Islam extremists in my opinion.
Report Post »paperpushermj
Posted on December 27, 2011 at 5:14pmI don’t think these people acknowledge the State of Israel.
Report Post »Polwatcher
Posted on December 27, 2011 at 5:18pmThere are good and bad in every group of people, everywhere. This kind of crap is extreme to say the least but we need to be careful to remember that Jews as a group do not condone this kind of behaviour.
Report Post »NYCRight
Posted on December 28, 2011 at 2:26amShogun- There are idiots in every religion. And this was as much based on sex as theology. The Haredi involved are welfare dependent anti-Zionists who despise Religious Zionists, Orthodox and Haredi. The left is misreporting this to attack all Orthodox Jews, including the victim.
rrjenn- Show me were Hardal, Zionist Ultra-orthodox act this way.
Cause4Liberty- You are an idiot and allied to the anti-Zionist spitters. Assuming you aren’t a Nazi who wants to exterminate all of us. The victim is Orthodox, showing that you are an illiterate hater.
TH30PH1LUS- Not all Ultra-Orthodox on the same.
Report Post »pennswoods- You are an ignorant fool or liar. R. Yoseph was a senile man making religiously unsuported statments and was forced to retire for this. Do your videos show this truth? Nope.
Mgindi26
Posted on December 29, 2011 at 11:27amOk let‘s get some details cleared up that the blaze didn’t get from repeating the Israeli news sources. 1. The Haredi ( ultra orthodox) community as a whole DOES NOT in any way think that spitting on aany way condone demeaning another person especially a child because of thier dress. 2.Within the community there is a very small fringe group of peoplewho unfortumatwly do not umderstand that while modesty is a good thing, it can’t be enfourced by treating someone badly. The personust choose for themselves to dress modestly. 3. While this might not make sense to someone unfamiliar with the jewish relogous law,there is a concept of not mixing men and women together. This is not because women are subservient to men,Judaism doesnt say that. Rather it is a fence to protect each other from even the temptaion of promicuity. Jews believe the only members of the opposite sex you should have physical contact with is either your spouse,children,or grandparents. When people get married it is a holy union and there is sanctity there. The buses that are being commented on are a private lin for that section of the city, and the peolple choose to be seperated. It bears no resmblence to segregation. The thing is that the left wing im Israel wants to bring down Bibi and the religous parties are in his coaltion. So they are using the left wing media to invent a contraversey to drive a wedge in the coalition, and at the same time malign the observant jews.Just like here the left uses hard ta
Report Post »Mgindi26
Posted on December 29, 2011 at 11:52amPennswood
I am a bit curious. When Rabbi Yosefs answers a question posed to him” that if the gentiles are not obligated in all of the lawsa that jews are how can a gentile gain eternal life?”
And Rabbi Yosef answers ” that gentileswhile gentiles aren‘t obligated to keep all the laws that doesn’tema they don’t aquire eternal life, they get merit to gain eternal life by all of the services they do that makes it easier for Jews to observe.” So that gets misinterpreted to mean that they serve jews, that is not what it means. It means that for instance a truck driver delivers mmilk to a store which means that instead of having to milk a cow himself a person can just go to the corner store and buy it, since he saved the jew all of that time and effort which gave the jew more time to serve G-d, this truckdriver gained eternal reward even though his intent was to drive a truck amd make money, since this helped a jew G-d rewards him for that service that is what he means by serve jews.”
As opposed to just about every other religon including probably your own that would require a person who would want to go to heaven adopt that religons belief. For instance Chrisiaity says that only by accepting Jesus can someone go to heaven. Or islam that only by accepting islam can one go to paradise. Rabbi Yosef says that in Judaism you can worship as you are and by just doing your job as a truck driver a gentile can go to heaven.
Seems pretty tolerant to me.
Report Post »elc30
Posted on December 27, 2011 at 10:26amThere is a difference between the Jew and the Muslims the Jewish people are fighting back against the extreamist while the Muslims just claim that they are against the radicals.
Report Post »Detroit paperboy
Posted on December 27, 2011 at 10:59amAhhhhh.. Organized religion , isnt it wonderful, might as well be hangin out with JIM JONES…. OR GOOD OLE REVEREND WRIGHT….im a believer, but i dont need a middle man to speak to God , i call direct !!!!!
Report Post »circleDwagons
Posted on December 27, 2011 at 11:50amanother peaceful religion, GOD Bless them
Report Post »Hobbs57
Posted on December 27, 2011 at 12:27pmI am with you paperboy, I have come to the same place. I vigorously sought a path on earth unto which I could freely speak to my heavenly father with out the dictates and prejudices of man interfering with the process, but the results have been nil. I was raised Catholic, had participated in multiple nondenominational Christian sects, Tried Evangelical born again s, converted to LDS as they seemed the least influenced by financial concerns as the leaders of local churches aren’t paid, but still found the heavy hand of man corrupting the process. Appearantly, mankind hadn’t learned the ultimate lesson upon which Eve had suffered as she was confounded by Satan in the Garden of Eden. He had offered her to become as God, to know good and bad. Obviously, man is still practicing this notion and expressing his illusion of power through 10′s of 1,000′s of man made churches. Christian, Jewish, or Muslim, it matters not, each proclaims to have the only path to salvation. When all the while, Jesus has already made it possible for man to partake of the fruit from the tree of life. Yet, mankind still partakes in the tree of knowledge. How sad. The only place I have felt 100% spiritually free and had the great fortune to experience my intimate relation with God, through the spirit, is in AA and NA meetings. A place where people gather for a cause of good and NO man has power, only a group conscious acts as the spirit dictates rule. Unfortunately, many folks there are afraid of God. Und
Report Post »jungle J
Posted on December 27, 2011 at 12:48pmdetroit pb…10/4
Report Post »ShadowmaSSofSC
Posted on December 27, 2011 at 1:03pmMight as well make up your own rules and your own religion.
Report Post »M13
Posted on December 27, 2011 at 1:12pmShadoemass they did it’s called the Church of Perpetual Conspricy and Ron Paul is the Pope and Alex Jones is the Archbishop.
Report Post »BenInNY
Posted on December 27, 2011 at 5:13pm@shadow I’m in the same camp as them. Never been a fan of organized religion, yet always had a belief in God. Why make rules where common sense and decency are all that we personally need? Especially since we’re not trying to convert anyone to our lack of religion. Heck, we’re only stating our own views.
Report Post »@M Now that’s just wrong, lol, I’d love for RP to head the fed though.
308prof
Posted on December 27, 2011 at 10:21am“ULTRA” any religions; Jewish, moslem, born-again Christian,etc. are responsible for more problems world-wide than any group of rogue nations. I don’t impose my religious beliefs on people and expect the same treatment from others. I am not offended by Christmas trees, Menorahs or Shinto Shrines. I do get upset when people break out pray rugs on subway platforms or Jehovah witnesses pound on my door.
Report Post »You won’t find God at some Torah Yeshiva – he’s skiing at Aspen or Vail or enjoying the beach at Aruba.
smithclar3nc3
Posted on December 27, 2011 at 10:29amcommunism has killed more people in times of peace thatn every war in history combined.
Report Post »Lloyd Drako
Posted on December 27, 2011 at 11:43amCommunism itself is a sort of religion. It has its own saints, martyrs, icons, feast days, confessions of faith, heresies, apocalyptic (revolutionary) hopes and dreams, everything but God and an afterlife. Functionally, not much difference. If Torquemada or Calvin had had modern weapons, proportionate to population they would have been every bit as murderous as Stalin or Mao.
Report Post »josh345
Posted on December 27, 2011 at 2:31pmwhy isn’t God at a Torah Yeshiva? Have you ever been to one? Torah Yeshiva‘s are full of many different people who are studying God’s text, discussing it, worshipping him, and doing it all together as a community. They are wonderful places.
Report Post »mean_conservative_teacher
Posted on December 27, 2011 at 10:14amI support Israel, but I had no idea that they were so far behind in their enforcement of civil rights. Such gender discrimination should not be allowed to persist.
Report Post »smithclar3nc3
Posted on December 27, 2011 at 10:32amNot our business…while we’re all entitled to our own oppinions and beliefs so are the people of other countries. If civil rights are to change within foriegn nations it shouild be changed from within not by U.S. MILITARY enforcement.
Report Post »Tsam
Posted on December 27, 2011 at 11:03am@Mean Conservative Teacher: I agree. If we send aid to countries we should make human rights a stipulation. (that means women’s equality, for the clueless…)
Report Post »Vechorik
Posted on December 27, 2011 at 12:35pmGuess you also support Israel aborting babies with government money?
Report Post »tzion
Posted on December 27, 2011 at 12:47pmThis is a single radical sect that up until recently kept mostly to themselves. In the majority of the country this doesn’t happen.
Report Post »mean_conservative_teacher
Posted on December 27, 2011 at 3:12pmIt doesn’t look like they are keeping to themselves to me. Not only are they attacking people outside of their community, but apparently they also have unwarranted influence over the government. And how about those street signs? It simply shouldn’t be allowed by their government.
Report Post »tzion
Posted on December 27, 2011 at 6:10pm@Teacher
Report Post »You’ve hit the nail on the head. They aren’t keeping to themselves anymore. And yes they do exert a lot of influence on the government. This exposes the flaws of Parliamentarian governments that fail to separate powers. The religious party’s support is almost always necessary for one party to be able to receive the office of Prime Minister. They’ll never run the country but they can cut deals with those who do.
krenshau
Posted on December 27, 2011 at 10:08amWhy do you forsake the commands of God for the traditions of man?
Report Post »IslandMama
Posted on December 27, 2011 at 10:08amHer mom’s American, right? Maybe it’s time to go home to Chicago … just sayin’ …
Report Post »Tsam
Posted on December 27, 2011 at 11:06am@IslandMama: No, she should stay right where she is and the sexist men should change! Equality for all. It’s not that hard to understand.
Report Post »thejackal
Posted on December 27, 2011 at 10:05amI usually support the Jews in every respect, however they’ve lost me on this. They are acting like the Islamo-facists and they need to stop. Israel doesn’t need anyone turning away from them now, smarten up idiots.
Report Post »ME
Posted on December 27, 2011 at 10:23amyou think that may be exactly what the intent of this article is? I seen aljazeera all over this why its here is odd. Muslims practice this on a nation wide scale and a few wacko jobs are made to look like the norm in Israel. Does Westboro baptist church make up all of the us in the US or even all baptist or just a group of 30 retards? (sorry no offense to the handicap)
Report Post »Vechorik
Posted on December 27, 2011 at 12:38pmIsrael has problems, just like America has problems. To think that the US can solve all of Israel’s problems is childish, at best. We can’t solve the US money problem, much less our social problems.
Report Post »thebaron512
Posted on December 27, 2011 at 10:03amBunch of self-righteous @#$@#$ that need to be whipped for their moronic ideals. They are insulting themselves with their actions and those parents need to get a paint gun to give them something to think after a few bruises….
Report Post »SgtB
Posted on December 27, 2011 at 10:48amIf anyone ever spit on or yelled at my daughter, they would only wish that all I used on them was a paint gun. I’d be more likely to use the real deal on them and ensure the safety of my child from radical @55holes who would deny another human being of their God-given and inalienable rights.
Report Post »Watchyer6
Posted on December 27, 2011 at 9:58amThese ultra-Orthodox are an embarrasment. They are the “Jewish Taliban.” Not much difference.
Report Post »Every religion has these extremist nuts. How about the crazy Phelps family, here? All in the name of religion.
Ne_FAL
Posted on December 27, 2011 at 12:51pmI honestly believe that the Phelps family is more of a political animal than a theological one. Yes they use claims of religious faith as a shield but they are known to have a political background with the extreme left of the Democrat party. The Phelps family uses the claim of religious free speech as a way to deliberately try & provoke violence for purposes of propaganda by the Democrat party.
Report Post »Vechorik
Posted on December 27, 2011 at 1:20pmYou said: “The Phelps family uses the claim of religious free speech as a way to deliberately try & provoke violence for purposes of propaganda by the Democrat party.”
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Regardless of their motives, aren’t they entitled to their belief? Their style of dress?
Report Post »dandelion8002
Posted on December 27, 2011 at 3:41pmPeople who claim the so-called “ultra-Orthodox“ are the ”Jewish Taliban” reveal their gaping ignorance of both. Those who would spit on a little girl and call her a “whore” do not represent Hareidi community a They are an aberration and do not receive approval from the community at large.
Report Post »AR485
Posted on December 27, 2011 at 9:56amI wouldn’t care if it were a member of my own church, if someone accosted and spit on my wife and children, the next thing coming out of their mouth would be their own teeth! Where are the real men to stand up to these bozos?
Report Post »Drakkhanlord
Posted on December 27, 2011 at 1:26pmGood call…
Report Post »nuchsh
Posted on December 27, 2011 at 9:54amChristmas in Eurabia http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=amQtXtkys6Q
Report Post »jand777
Posted on December 27, 2011 at 9:52amGrown MEN don’t pick on little girls. I am from the south, my parents taught respect, and yes, I do still say ma’am and sir. That being said, I know there is a more civilized way to express themselves about this matter. Attacking little girls and their mothers on the way to school will not win any support where I come from.
Report Post »biohazard23
Posted on December 27, 2011 at 10:11amAmen to that!
Report Post »MidWestMom
Posted on December 27, 2011 at 10:36amjand777 – same here. Persecuting little schoolgirls…yeah, they’re sure some real tough men. Bunch of thugs is more like it.
Report Post »KevINtampa
Posted on December 27, 2011 at 10:44amIt’ll win tons of support in my book.
Signed,
Report Post »Adolf Hitler
dissentnow
Posted on December 27, 2011 at 9:51amGiven the neocons recent love for all things Jewish and the fact that they now label anyone who criticizes anything to do with Israel, in any way shape or form, as being an anti-semite, does this mean that the Blaze is now anti-semitic for criticizing Jews for spitting on Jews in Israel?
Report Post »@leftfighter
Posted on December 27, 2011 at 10:03amNeo = new. NeoCons are Progressives.
True NeoCons have no great love for Israel just as Progressive Dems don’t.
Now, is The Blaze anti-semite for reporting facts? That’s a fallicious argument. Nobody on the Right says everyone who criticizes Israel for any reason is an anti-Semite, though if you criticize Israel and side with the people who say “Kill every Jew in sight and push them into the sea,” well now there’s a problem.
Keep your rediculous, purile, and banal attempts at trolling on your side of the fence. You’re not winning any support here.
Report Post »dissentnow
Posted on December 27, 2011 at 10:35amCorrect. Neocons are progressive. An interventionist foreign policy is as progressive (Wilsonian) as you can get. Also, policing the world, the patriot act, ect are all progressive (neoconservative) ideas.
Report Post »Sorry, but i’m not a liberal. What was that old saying about assuming?
I’m actually a constitutional libertarian. Good try though.
feztuz
Posted on December 27, 2011 at 10:36amSo DISSENTNOW – Do you get paid by how many posts you put up on the blaze, or by how many replies you get? I am guessing its by replies, since you line of reasoning is so WHACKED, you know someone is going to call you out on it . . . .
My god – grow up. You can’t condem an entire country for the actions of a few of idiots.
We all have a cousin Pooky that we would rather not be related to . . . . .
Report Post »dissentnow
Posted on December 27, 2011 at 10:46am“You can’t condem an entire country for the actions of a few of idiots.”
I don’t recall condemning any country in my post. Perhaps you might be the one that needs to grow up.
Report Post »Also, you probably shouldn’t tell someone that they need to grow up and then use the phrase “cousin pooky”.
Veritas Libertas
Posted on December 27, 2011 at 10:53amIsn’t this a problem that the people of Israel can deal with as they see fit? Why would any American feel we have a say in this, either way?
Report Post »JustPeachy
Posted on December 27, 2011 at 11:22amSo when someone reports on a story that has negative content, it automatically means he is anti-semitic, racist, etc?
I think you need to look up the definition of semitism or you would not even need to ask that question.
Report Post »feztuz
Posted on December 27, 2011 at 11:38amVeritas, i agree with you, and i am sure that they will be dealt with in a much better fashion than the muslims deal with their extremists.
Someone in the family will set cousin pooky straight lol
(DISSENTNOW, i am sorry you think that is immature, I was merely trying to draw an analogy a lot of us can associate with)
DISSENTNOW, you can play around with your political labels, and whatever other theories you may have, but the bottom line is this:
The Jewish people may not be perfect (None of us are) but they are under attack by a group that is willing to put bombs on thier children in service to their God.
If my support equals the “love of all things jewish” then so be it. Just because they have a few idiots in the village,as we all do, I will still support them in their struggle against what i consider to be pure evil.
Report Post »dissentnow
Posted on December 27, 2011 at 12:23pmYou guys are making my point for me. I‘m being attacked for making a joke that said nothing bad about Israel and suddenly i’m “condemning an entire country”.
Report Post »COFemale
Posted on December 27, 2011 at 12:49pmDissentNow perhaps I missed it or I don’t have the same demented humor you do, but what joke?
Are you one of those “holier than thou Libertarians” who makes an obtuse comment and then pretends it never happened claiming “it was a joke man”. Rich!
Report Post »Vechorik
Posted on December 27, 2011 at 12:57pmdissentnow
Posted on December 27, 2011 at 10:46am
“You can’t condem an entire country for the actions of a few of idiots.”
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Report Post »Agreed.
You can’t say an entire country is good because of a few good people either.
dissentnow
Posted on December 27, 2011 at 2:02pm@cofemale
Report Post »I didn’t realize that there was an outbreak of libertarians making obtuse comments! Also, i dare you to show me anything “obtuse” about my comment.
Biddle
Posted on December 27, 2011 at 9:50am“How terrible it will be for you, scribes and Pharisees, you hypocrites! You shut the door to the kingdom of heaven in people’s faces. You don’t go in yourselves, and you don’t allow those who are trying to enter to go in.”
Report Post »Matthew 23:13
This verse used to ring in my noggin when I thought I knew everything. Praise the Lord who humbles His children!
Vechorik
Posted on December 27, 2011 at 12:40pmDo not return evil for evil. 1 Peter 3:8
Make every effort to live in peace with all men and be holy Hebrews 12:14
The weapons we fight with are not the weapons of the world. 2 Corinthians 10:4
For though we live in the world, we do not wage war as the world does. 2 Corinthians 10:3
Not by might, nor by power, but by my spirit Zechariah 4:6
Wisdom is better than weapons of war Ecclesiastes 9:18
The unfaithful have a craving for violence. Proverbs 13:2
It is not by sword or spear that the Lord saves 1 Samuel 17:47
There is no fear in love. But perfect love drives out fear, because fear has to do with punishment. The one who fears is not made perfect in love. 1 John 4:18
Whoever listens to me will live in safety and be at ease, without fear of harm. Proverbs 1:33
Matt 5:43-44
43 Ye have heard that it hath been said, Thou shalt love thy neighbour,
and hate thine enemy.
44 But I say unto you, Love your enemies, bless them that curse you,
do good to them that hate you, and pray for them which despitefully
use you, and persecute you;
Make every effort to live in peace with all men and be holy Hebrews 12:14
I John 4:20
Report Post »If a man say, I love God, and hateth his brother, he is a liar:
for he that loveth not his brother whom he hath seen, how can he
love God whom he hath not seen?
dandelion8002
Posted on December 27, 2011 at 4:07pmBiddle:
Learn some Second Temple history.
When Jesus says “scribes & pharisees“ he is not referring to ”pharisee party” who were much beloved by the people. In fact Hayim Maccoby, a scholar of the period, believes Jesus himself was a pharisee. The pharisee party was patriotic and looking forward to the liberation of their people from the yoke of Rome…who was actively involved in preventing the people from observing the Torah, much like what the Greeks had done under Antiochus Ephiphanes of Chanukah fame.
The pharisees can be likened in some ways to the Tea Party in America. The “scribes & pharisees”, when mentioned together by Jesus were a group consisting of sadduccees and a small number of co-opted pharisees who had abandoned their fellow pharisees in favor of the good life. It was tough to be a true pharisee back then. They were often hunted, tortured and then murdered by their Roman overlords. In contrast, the “scribes & pharisees” were co-opted elitist leaders who had turned their back their people in favor of influence, profit and position. This group, sadduccees and the small number of corrupted pharisees who had joined the sadducean cause were on the take…very wealthy and not committed to either their duties to G-d or the Jewish people.
And that is why Jesus had few good words to say to them. According to gospel accounts though, he did manage to dine with pharisees, most of whom were true. One needs to read with political nuances in mind.
Report Post »Cape_Lookout_RW_Extremist
Posted on December 27, 2011 at 9:50amhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vnt7euRF5Pg&feature=player_embedded
Report Post »Vechorik
Posted on December 27, 2011 at 1:17pmNice. Hope that wasn’t considered an illegal “public Christmas display.”
Report Post »expatinontariocanada
Posted on December 27, 2011 at 9:47amHow far away from Sharia is this? Seems pretty close to me…just sayin’.
Report Post »Red1492
Posted on December 27, 2011 at 9:55amJews are arabs with a “slightly” different religion. Those people can’t be changed anymore than muslims can be changed.
Report Post »Red1492
Posted on December 27, 2011 at 9:59amYep. All abrahamic religions hate women in one form or another. Some are more obvious, some are more covert. Women are for reproduction only. Having lived in the middle east for 15 years, it’s no different in Saudi than it is in Israel.
Report Post »techengineer11
Posted on December 27, 2011 at 10:01amEven the New Testament encourages women to dress modestly but in Christianity today you have women singing in the choir on Sunday and on the beach wearing a thong on Monday… Of course many advertising on Sunday as well. I stand with the Othodox Jew on this one. Women need to follow God’s word and dress modestly like the Holy Spirit encourages you to do. Now if only some of our more notable Christian leaders would begin to call out the Women in Christendom!
Report Post »kentuckypatriot
Posted on December 27, 2011 at 10:19amMy thoughts exactly. Seems to me there is no difference.
Report Post »tzion
Posted on December 27, 2011 at 12:52pm@Techengineer
Report Post »As an Orthodox Jew I would encourage you to reread the article. This girl is Orthodox and dresses modestly but the radical Ultra-Orthodox still attacked her. I can agree that people should be more modest but attacking people with rocks is also wrong.
COFemale
Posted on December 27, 2011 at 12:57pmTech define dress modest? If the girl was in a long sleeve shirt with a long skirt isn’t that modest? Is women wearing a burka modest enough for you? Maybe she just should not walk down the street, I mean if the men can’t see her then apparently she is dressing modest enough.
What are you a Neanderthal?
How about men mind their own freaking business and quite imposing your lack of control on women. If you get that worked up on a women in a long sleeved shirt and skirt, I’d hate to see what you do when she is in shorts and a short sleeved top. Maybe the way to solve your problem is put a bag over your head.
Report Post »techengineer11
Posted on December 27, 2011 at 1:34pmCOFemale: I only try to obey Jesus. Take it up with him if you prefer to advertise. It’s his Bible that commands not suggests women to dress modestly.
I mostly jest about this entire article. It appearst that the girl was dressed modestly. However, the Bible clearly and emphatically encourages maybe even commands women to dress modestly. You may or may not be a follower; however, I just like to point out the hyprocrisy in professed believers.. Like the 400 lb Pastor Hagee encouraging us to go to War for Israel or the innumberal Blaze readers quoting an OT scripture supporting the OT Jews as a reason that the United States should destroy all of modern day Israel’s enemies..
Personally I prefer the immodesty.. lol But if we are to Bible thump let’s thump it consistently.
Report Post »ShamanWorld
Posted on December 27, 2011 at 9:47amI live in NY about 60 miles upstate from NYC. There is a whole town called Kiryas Joel that is all Hasidic Orthodox Jews. They have their own hospitals, schools, buses and it is mostly taxpayer funded. Most of the families are on welfare and have 5 or more kids, the others work in the diamond district? The real kicker is, when you are entering the village of KJ, there is a giant sign that gives the village rules which consist of: “Gender separation at all times, long dresses past the knees for girls”, among other rules such as no loud music or sagging pants. The other thing is most of the Orthodox Jews are rude as any people I’ve known This is in the USA too.
Report Post »nappy
Posted on December 27, 2011 at 10:22amThat’s because they SUCK. They’re in a fantasy world and they treat everyone else as if they are dirt.
Report Post »Mr. Oshawott
Posted on December 27, 2011 at 12:37pmThis is why theocracy is destined to fail miserably. When people are forced to live under rules that they may oppose, civil unrest is imminent.
Report Post »Vechorik
Posted on December 27, 2011 at 12:42pmSo what is the difference between the rules of those Jews and the rules of Muslims in their districts?
Report Post »Sounds the same to me. Just two versions of the same thing.
JakeEllis
Posted on December 27, 2011 at 9:45amAnything put Israel in a bad light. All the arab terrorists trying to destroy this nation, and you dug deep to find this non story. Glenn, you are making me question your thoughts and beliefs.
Report Post »expatinontariocanada
Posted on December 27, 2011 at 9:52amWhat in the hell are you talking about? This is a “story”. Radical fundamentalism, in all its forms, need to be brought into the light and shouted down. If the story is correct, where it reports that the radicals want the seculars out of town, you’ve got a form of ethnic cleansing going on. I saw that happen in Montreal in the 1970′s. It’s ugly and evil.
Report Post »Biddle
Posted on December 27, 2011 at 10:04amReally? I thought the Lord already put them in a bad light – “Stiff necked and ignorant” is not a positive review! I know where your sentiment is grounded though, and yes we should bless Israel, but some folk are of their father, the devil, regardless of the flesh. Remember, “they have Moses and the prophets, let them hear them.”
Report Post »Tsam
Posted on December 27, 2011 at 11:10amWhoaaaa! Now Glenn’s not allowed to criticize Israel? (even tho he wasn’t — this is a news story!)
Leave Freedom of Speech & expression alone, please!
Report Post »Lloyd Drako
Posted on December 27, 2011 at 11:38amThe Blaze didn’t have to dig very deep to find this. It’s all over the Israeli press, too.
Report Post »Eliasim
Posted on December 27, 2011 at 9:38amMost people are whores who go a whoring after all the people because money is based on people and production.
Report Post »nobull14
Posted on December 27, 2011 at 9:37amI have met some them Orthodox Jews some of them are way out there ?? I feel sorry for this little girl !!
Report Post »NYCRight
Posted on December 28, 2011 at 2:28amThe victim is Orthodox.
Report Post »Eliasim
Posted on December 27, 2011 at 9:36amHow is it that they call one person a whore, when all the people are whores? The “Seven wives” are a multitude made up of millions and millions of people, and they are all whores who have told their husband that they will wear what they want to.
Report Post »COFemale
Posted on December 27, 2011 at 1:00pmI see you went off your meds again. You might want to get back on them, because what you just said is talk from a severely deranged person. Eliasim, I am concerned for you. Please, please go see a doctor.
Report Post »RichNGadsden
Posted on December 27, 2011 at 9:35amIn this day and age ALL Israelis need to pull together and be vigilant of their enemies. Not act like them.
Report Post »Rational Man
Posted on December 27, 2011 at 9:34amSomebody needs a serious butt whippin for that…..I volunteer for the job, if I don’t have to stand in line too long…………………..
Report Post »lukerw
Posted on December 27, 2011 at 9:28amMy heart goes out to her.
Report Post »P8riot
Posted on December 27, 2011 at 11:38amI agree; poor girl. I have a daughter about her age and would be furious if she was treated like that.
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