ISTANBUL (AP) — About a week ago, Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad declared to the United Nations that most people in the world believe the United States was behind the terrorist attacks of Sept. 11, 2001.
To many people in the West, the statement was ludicrous, almost laughable if it weren’t so incendiary. And surveys show that a majority of the world does not in fact believe that the U.S. orchestrated the attacks.
However, the belief persists strongly among a minority, even with U.S. allies like Turkey or in the U.S. itself. And it cannot be dismissed because it reflects a gulf in politics and perception, especially between the West and many Muslims.
“That theory might be true,” said Ugur Tezer, a 48-year-old businessman who sells floor tiles in the Turkish capital, Ankara. “When I first heard about the attack I thought, ‘Osama,’ but then I thought the U.S. might have done it to suppress the rise of Muslims.”
Compassion for the United States swept the globe right after the attacks, but conspiracy theories were circulating even then. It wasn’t al-Qaida, they said, but the United States or Israel that downed the towers. Weeks after the strikes, at the United Nations, President George W. Bush urged the world not to tolerate “outrageous conspiracy theories” that deflected blame from the culprits.
However, the subsequent wars in Iraq and Afghanistan provided fodder for the damning claim that the U.S. killed its own citizens, supposedly to justify military action in the Middle East and to protect Israel. A 2006 survey by the Pew Global Attitudes Project found that significant majorities in Egypt, Indonesia, Jordan and Turkey — all among the most moderate nations in the Islamic world — said they did not believe Arabs carried out the attacks.
Two years later, a poll of 17 nations by WorldPublicOpinion.org, an international research project, found majorities in nine of them believed al-Qaida was behind the attacks. However, the U.S. government was blamed by 36 percent of Turks and 27 percent of Palestinians.
Such beliefs have currency even in the United States. In 2006, a Scripps Howard poll of 1,010 Americans found 36 percent thought it somewhat or very likely that U.S. officials either participated in the attacks or took no action to stop them.
Those who say the attacks might have been an “inside job” usually share antipathy toward the U.S. government, and often a maverick sensibility. Besides Ahmadinejad, high-profile doubters include Cuba’s Fidel Castro and Venezuelan President Hugo Chavez. Former Minnesota governor and pro wrestler Jesse Ventura has questioned the official account. Conspiracy theorists have heckled former President Bill Clinton and other prominent Americans during speeches.
Controversy over U.S. actions and policies, including the widely discredited assertions that Saddam Hussein had weapons of mass destruction, reinforced the perceptions of conspiracy theorists. Iranians dug deeper into history, recalling the U.S.-backed coup in their country in 1953.
“Initially, I was doubtful about the conspiracy theories. But after seeing the events in later years, I don’t have any doubt that it was their own operation to find a pretext to hit Muslim countries,” said Shaikh Mushtaq Ahmed, a 58-year-old operations manager in a bank in Pakistan. “It’s not a strange thing that they staged something like this in their own country to achieve a big objective.”
In March, an editorial in The Washington Post harshly criticized Yukihisa Fujita, a lawmaker with the ruling Democratic Party of Japan, for saying in an interview that some of the Sept. 11 hijackers were alive and that shadowy forces with advance information about the plot played the stock market for profit. Fujita said the article contained factual errors.
The record shows that al-Qaida agents on a suicide mission hijacked four American passenger planes and crashed them into the World Trade Center towers, the Pentagon, and a field in Pennsylvania, killing nearly 3,000 people. The evidence is immense: witness accounts, audio recordings, video and photographic documentation, exhaustive investigations and claims of responsibility by al-Qaida.
Yet every fact and official assertion only feeds into alternative views that become amplified on the Internet, some tinged with anti-Semitism because of the close U.S.-Israeli alliance. They theorize that a knowing U.S. government stood by as the plot unfolded, or that controlled demolitions destroyed the Twin Towers, and the Pentagon was hit by a missile.
“All this, of course, would require hundreds if not thousands of people to be in on the plot. It speaks volumes for the determination to believe something,” said David Aaronovitch, the British author of “Voodoo Histories: the role of Conspiracy Theory in Modern History.”
“This kind of theory really does have a big impact in the Middle East,” he said. “It gets in the way of thinking seriously about the problems in the area and what should be done.”
A U.S. State Department website devotes space to debunking conspiracy theories about Sept. 11, in the apparent belief that the allegations must be addressed forcefully rather than dismissed out of hand as the ruminations of a fringe group.
“Conspiracy theories exist in the realm of myth, where imaginations run wild, fears trump facts, and evidence is ignored. As a superpower, the United States is often cast as a villain in these dramas,” the site says.
Tod Fletcher of Petaluma, California, has worked as an assistant to David Ray Griffin, a retired theology professor, on books that question the Sept. 11 record. He was cautious about the Iranian president’s comments about conspiracy theories, suggesting Ahmadinejad may have been politically motivated by his enmity with the U.S. government.
“It seems like it’s the sort of thing that could lead to further vilification of people who criticize the official account here in the United States,” Fletcher said.
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Torchia reported from Istanbul. Associated Press Writers Gulden Alp in Ankara, Turkey, and Zarar Khan in Islamabad contributed to this report.
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barrycooper
Posted on October 3, 2010 at 1:27pmConspiracy theories attract a lot of minds which have been marginalized by mediocrity, not merit. At the same time, I have come to believe that we must consider seriously the idea that at least World Trade Center building 7 (aka the Solomon Brothers building) was brought down by explosives. The explanation given by NIST simply makes no sense.
Here is my treatment of the topic: http://moderatesunited.blogspot.com/2010/10/plausible-911-conspiracy-theory.html
Rather than demonize me as stupid or nuts, evaluate the actual EVIDENCE, and criticize me with respect to the facts I”ve presented, or the logical inferences I have drawn from them. I likely won’t look back here, but feel free to post there. “Anonymous” is enabled.
Report Post »Thinker4Life
Posted on October 3, 2010 at 2:04amI am a 29yr old white CHRISTIAN guy…. Conspericy Theorists!!!! HaHA How can all these reporters be so passive! To say my own Goverment here in the U.S.A. did not stage the 9/11 attacks is like saying UFO’s are not real…… Can you say the words illuminati…. Freemason….. Bush was the biggest idiot I have ever seen.. His presidency was a joke… Thats why he fumbles his words when he gets asked questions about 9/11… THE FACTS REMAIN….
Why was there no plane wreckage at the pentagon?
Why did they cover it with a huge American flag After?
Why was a huge insurance policy taken out on the trade centers weeks before the attacks that specifically to cover acts of terror?
Why was survailance video seized from a nearby gas station which had a perfect view of the impact then after only 4 frames of the footage released showing only a fireball…. “Because it was a cruise missle”
Why were 50 gal drums loaded into the trade centers douring a fire drill weeks before the attacks?
Why was there pools of molten metal weeks after the calaps if “Thermite” was not used?
Why was Osama Bin Ladin in secured custody at a hospital during the time of the attacks?
Why was the steel from the trade centers shipped out of the coutry ASAP before it could be studied? “Lets ask the mayor”!!!!!
I’m so sick of living in a corrupt country! Watch the video on youtube “Loose Change”
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7E3oIbO0AWE
Has anyone seen the concentration camps being setup in the national parks? or what about the 100′s of thousands of 4 person coffins being stored in rural locations…..
Report Post »wash1776
Posted on October 3, 2010 at 12:24pmIf you are so sick of this country, LEAVE!
Report Post »Contrarianthinker
Posted on October 3, 2010 at 12:58pmTicker, keep sounding the sure trumpet. Remember always that God predicted that there would be worldwide secret combinations who sought for power and wealth. Sceptics will be held accountable and will have to pay the price of their rejection of what God is trying to warn us so we can be safe.
Report Post »Devil in Arkansas
Posted on October 4, 2010 at 12:19pmThinker4Life,
If you are unwilling or unable to separate fact from fiction and REALLY want to convince anyone of a 911 conspiracy, send us a video of you from another planet the next time you are out riding around in a UFO?
Report Post »Patriot Z
Posted on October 2, 2010 at 11:31pmthey worship a child molesting warlord who commands them to kill anyone who is not like them. and you are shoked that they might be truthers?
Report Post »usconcerned
Posted on October 2, 2010 at 6:27pmWhy we need to discuss this lunacy which this raving maniac Ahmadinejad and idiots on the left are promoting. I remember Rosy O’Donnell blathering that “steel cannot melt”. Yes, Rosy, it can. This precisely the way the steel is made. They do not have any one fact that was not debunked. The proponents of this lunacy are unable to withstand intelligent argument.
But, I understand why Glenn placed this posting. Nice try! A pig Napoleon told in 1984, “All animals are equal, but some are more equal than others”. I must say the following: “Not all conspiracy theories are equal. Some so-called ‘conspiracy theories’ are not ‘conspiracy theories’ at all. When such theories are supported by facts that cannot be dismissed, such theories are not ‘conspiracy theories’. Remember Watergate?
Report Post »usconcerned
Posted on October 2, 2010 at 6:32pmI need to correct myself. Pig Napoleon told, “All animals are equal, but some animals are more equal than other” in George Orwell’s “The Animal Farm”, not in “1984”. Sorry about this.
Report Post »Contrarianthinker
Posted on October 2, 2010 at 9:09pmUS, then over 1000 structrual engineers, architects, demolition experts and chemists/physcists are liars and deceivers. This is a conspiracy theory that you advocate. Sham on you.
Report Post »Deutscher
Posted on October 2, 2010 at 11:22pm@usconcerned. Meet me back at the NASA post. I’ve been trying to ” think for myself.”
Report Post »usconcerned
Posted on October 4, 2010 at 12:27amTo: CONTRARIANTHINKER
I do not advocate 9/11 conspiracy theories. I clearly stated that it is sheer lunacy to believe that the US government staged 9/11. I clearly stated that all so-called “facts” of proponents of this theory were debunked. Only Ahmedinejad and Far Left may believe in 9/11 conspiracy theory.
I just do not like some attempts to put real issues, like Obama’s eligibility issue under the umbrella of 9/11 conspiracy theory and proclaim that proponents of both theories are “crazy”. If somebody wants to know how many people who question Obama’s eligibility also believe in 9/11 conspiracy theory, my answer is: NOBODY. Nobody, who asks legitimate questions about Obama’s eligibility, believe in 9/11 conspiracy theory.
The claim that Obama may be ineligible for office is as legitimate and real as the claim that Obama may be a Marxist. It is very easy to condemn both claims as “crazy” claims without any honest investigation and analysis. Right?
That was my point.
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Report Post »I do not have something to say to you, liberal plant.
usconcerned
Posted on October 4, 2010 at 12:32amTo: CONTRARIANTHINKER
I am not an advocate of 9/11 conspiracy theories. I clearly stated that it is sheer lunacy to believe that the US government staged 9/11. I clearly stated that all so-called “facts” of proponents of this theory were debunked. Only Ahmedinejad and Far Left may believe in 9/11 conspiracy theory.
I just do not like some attempts to put real issues, like Obama’s eligibility issue under the umbrella of 9/11 conspiracy theory and proclaim that proponents of both theories are “crazy”. If somebody wants to know how many people who question Obama’s eligibility also believe in 9/11 conspiracy theory, my answer is: NOBODY. Nobody, who asks legitimate questions about Obama’s eligibility, believe in 9/11 conspiracy theory.
The claim that Obama may be ineligible for office is as legitimate and real as the claim that Obama may be a Marxist. It is very easy to condemn both claims as “crazy” claims without any honest investigation and analysis. Right?
That was my point.
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Report Post »I do not have something to say to you, liberal plant.
TheSerpentsSeed
Posted on October 2, 2010 at 6:12pmAre we in our financial mess on “accident?” Are our politicians and administrators(who come from Ivy League schools, war colleges, law schools, economic think tanks, ect..) just stupid and thats why our economy is in shambles. Or are they evil? Now, if they are evil, and created a bad economy, to put forth unconstitutional legislation; would “they” do the same with our safety to SCARE us into “safety” legislation? Everytime the government creates a disaster(ask Rahm… BP, Vietnam, Pearl Harbor, Gulf of Tonken, Financial meltdown, Great Depression, Global Warming, 911?) we scream for them to fix it. And they “fix” it, alright. They fix with a helping flame to the Constitution. Are they stupid, or bad. Blue pill or the red pill? Jesus told us let not any man deceive us. Are you being deceieved? Everytime our governtment does somthing that “doesnt make sense…” Maybe its just not for a good reason. Our government has never been dishonest to us now, have they. Sleep tight!
Report Post »Contrarianthinker
Posted on October 3, 2010 at 1:00pmIt’s all just a coincidence to the deniars. Once you truly study this, one MUST fight it. Better to deny and sit on your couch and post on the internet.
The truth shou set one free.
Report Post »Joseph8
Posted on October 4, 2010 at 1:16amit is embarassing and a mockery to my joining the military to read this type of garbage. take a second to look who’s on your side on this issue. there are real issues to take up in the argument against big government. and contrarian, i seriously cringe when i read you throwing in religious views into everything, and thats coming from a mormon. if im ever on the same side of an issue as michael moore, achmideniwhatever, or islamic radicals, i would seriously reconsider. heres a real website with some credibility that you can check out. it is embarassing and a mockery to my joining the military to read this type of garbage. take a second to look who’s on your side on this issue. there are real issues to take up in the argument against big government. and contrarian, i seriously cringe when i read you throwing in religious views into everything, and thats coming from a mormon. if im ever on the same side of an issue as michael moore, achmideniwhatever, or islamic radicals, i would seriously reconsider. Now instead of all your blogs and random websites, i prefer http://www.popularmechanics.com/technology/military/news/1227842 .
Report Post »Joseph8
Posted on October 4, 2010 at 1:45am*sorry for the wierd double posting
Report Post »Devil in Arkansas
Posted on October 4, 2010 at 11:54amJoseph8,
Thank You. Once again, logic and facts trump ignorance and superstition.
Report Post »vtconsv
Posted on October 2, 2010 at 2:45pmFast Fact a majority of Muslims in Certain Countries cannot read or write , so its not the religion thats the problem it’s the Genocidal Unholy Men that are teaching it !
Imam Raeuf, I think I am talking about you here !
Report Post »If spelling on name is incorrect I apologize for that, not the comment !
glorious
Posted on October 2, 2010 at 2:11pmMy point-MANY people throughout the world believe funny things, lies, that would surprise us.
Report Post »glorious
Posted on October 2, 2010 at 2:06pmIn the Thrid World, books are rare and many are illiterate anyway. But pirated DVDs abound. Not having access to as much information as we do, people believe what they read or see, whether it is “news”–most available news sources are biased and slanted liberal Euoropean newpapers and tv as well as al Gezira. So they were fed that Bush was evil, Clinton was a good Christian man who loves Africa….And Michael Moore’s “Fahrenheit 911” was accepted as the truthful documentary that it declares itself to be. Imagine my surprise to see it in a Senegalese village. This one copy had been passed around to reach thousands. They were shocked, but told me (in French, of course) that it had to be true because it was a documentary with proof. I wonder how many millions have seen and believed it. I sent them FahrenHype 911, and they were shocked again to see another documentary that proves the opposite. Most of the world population is poor and underexposed. They have been propagndized on many issues and have no access to discovering the truth when they are lied to.
Report Post »Contrarianthinker
Posted on October 2, 2010 at 2:11pmThank you for your understanding and tolerance. FOLKS TO BE TOLERANT IS CHRISTLIKE. DOESN’T MEAN YOU AGREE.
Report Post »Devil in Arkansas
Posted on October 2, 2010 at 3:30pmThat’s an unfortunate side-effect of the modern world. Electronic propaganda is faster, easier, cheaper, and sometimes more compelling than other methods of learning.
Report Post »obommanation
Posted on October 2, 2010 at 1:30pmwell they sure enjoy burning rapped 10 year old alive and have up to 19 12 year old wife’s. on 20 20 last night this was not even brought up but they sure made christ look like a fool.
Report Post »hopin society
Posted on October 2, 2010 at 1:29pm“ that most people in the world believe the United States ” should be forced to convert to islame and live under sharia law
THAT AIN’T gonna happen either.
Report Post »Devil in Arkansas
Posted on October 2, 2010 at 12:55pmI don’t understand how praying will help the citizens of this country develop the mental ability necessary to separate fact from fiction, or to hone their deductive reasoning skills– that’s what education is all about.
If it makes you feel good, go ahead and pray, but praying isn’t going to change anything.
Glenn probably means well, but don’t forget, he has a family and political aspirations to feed.
Report Post »Contrarianthinker
Posted on October 2, 2010 at 1:29pmDevil, those who haven’t faith and/or used prayer will never understand the power of God. Those who rely totally on the arm of flesh will lose. Ask our Fou8nding Fathers especially George Washington IF Prayer works.
Report Post »Devil in Arkansas
Posted on October 2, 2010 at 3:17pmContrarian,
If someone wishes to pray, it is their right, and I wouldn’t dream of trying to convince them otherwise. Luckily, I’ve managed to free myself from that mind-virus, and feel all the better for it. That is my right. But, I wouldn’t ever allude to know what may or may not have been going on in the mind of the first President of the U.S., who has been dead for roughly 200 years. If any of our forefathers actually wrote that prayer got them what they wanted, I would respect their right to do that, but in my experience, it is probably more the power of suggestion that did the trick. The human mind is an incredibly powerful machine, capable of so much more than we give it credit for.
Report Post »Contrarianthinker
Posted on October 2, 2010 at 3:57pmDevil there are plenty of scholarly books that clearly bdemostrate that prayer was essential to our victory over the GREATEST MILITARY IN THE WORLD.
Certainly you have the right the power of prayer. IMO, that is a great loss for you but OK.
Report Post »Devil in Arkansas
Posted on October 2, 2010 at 4:11pmThe fine art of arguing endlessly in circles:
The Bible is true because it says it is true, and because it’s the Bible it must be true, on and on. Whew!
Been there, done that, got over it.
Report Post »Contrarianthinker
Posted on October 2, 2010 at 9:14pmDevil, the only way to KNOW about God is to receive a witness of the Holy Ghost. Try the experiment set forth in the Book of Mormon, Alma 32 if you consider yourself a truth seeker and an honest intellectual. All it takes is suspending cynacism and mocking.
I’ve found that very few athiests are that open to truth. Every athiest who I know who has tried this expereiment became a great devotee of God.
Report Post »Devil in Arkansas
Posted on October 2, 2010 at 10:19pmHere we go again….
Report Post »Contrarianthinker
Posted on October 3, 2010 at 12:01pmDevil, your response shows exactly what I claimed for ALL to see: Athiests are dishonest when they claim to be open minded. Thank you.
Report Post »Devil in Arkansas
Posted on October 3, 2010 at 12:52pmI am closed-minded because I won’t allow you to force your religion on me, and you KNOW it will benefit me? I have taken special pains to let you know that it is MY business if I choose to believe in an evil fairy-tale, yet you continue to insist if I drank your brand of kool-aid I would be better off?
Whatever happened to freedom of Religion? (That also means freedom FROM religion, my friend). Thankfully ALL those who push for freedom aren’t as self-absorbed as you are. I truly feel sorry for you.
You do know, that Islam operates in much the same way….
To begin with, I rejected your God. Now I reject both of you. Change out of the piety suit– it doesn’t fit. I really thought you were smarter than this.
Report Post »Contrarianthinker
Posted on October 3, 2010 at 1:03pmDevil, I’m NOT trying to force you to accept my religion???? I’m imniting you to truly find out 100% that there is no God because no one answers. Do as you wish. I wish much happiness in this life because that is all you believe anyway.
Your vile words towaqrds me speak a great deal of the type of bitterness I’ve seen in almost all athiets.
Report Post »Joseph8
Posted on October 4, 2010 at 12:28amugghhh… Devil, not all mormons are like this. im sorry.
Report Post »Devil in Arkansas
Posted on October 4, 2010 at 5:41amContrarian,
My ‘vile’ words towards you indicate my complete loss of patience with you. You just don’t get it. Leave it alone, already. Stop trying to force your religious beliefs upon me. I am not going to try your little experiment, which you wrongly believe will magically transform me. I am perfectly happy with my choice because I feel religion is just too high a price to pay, and I am not here to debate the subject. Please allow me the same courtesy I extend to you by not attempting to change my beliefs through coercion and ridicule, which, by the way, is undoubtedly one of the many reasons I have for my choices to begin with.
Report Post »Devil in Arkansas
Posted on October 4, 2010 at 5:46amJoseph8,
Unfortunately, my experience with Mormons has been exactly the same every time. If you are one, then I heartily commend you for your neutrality and respect.
Report Post »Patriotbeliever
Posted on October 2, 2010 at 12:10pmThis is just proof that we are under attack from within, because a lot of Americans are also beleive that this was a inside job. This is why Glenn says it is so important to pray. We need to insure that our brothers and sisters have the guidence they need to show that we are a nation under CHrist. He will lead the way and show us to be the new Jerusulem.
Report Post »Mikee T
Posted on October 2, 2010 at 11:50amMaybe Stupid Windmill is a member of the Taliban…….or something…….weather underground member…..or maybe just Stupid….like the blog handle indicates….. How is it that people confined to mental institutions can have access to conservative blog sites and “troll” around with no substantive commentary or input…… I haven’t heard a single cogent argument from these “little trolls” hiding behind their keyboards and interrupting our substantive trains of thought……. It’s people like Stupid Windmill that are enabling and supporting the destruction of our free market society and sovereign nation by virture of their hate and ignorance for what the majority of america wants….very disturbing…
Report Post »Patriot Mommy
Posted on October 2, 2010 at 12:08pmWell said Mikee T.
Report Post »Contrarianthinker
Posted on October 2, 2010 at 2:09pmPLEASE, PLEASE STOP CALLING EACH OTHER NAMES. If we disagree tell why with reasons/facts. I find I do learn things when thisw is done.. even from Progressives. (grin)
Report Post »Melvin Spittle
Posted on October 4, 2010 at 7:42pmI heard somewhere that over $60 million where spent from the stimulus fund to provide laptops, internet access and massive doses of amphetamines to over 5.000 institutionalized paranoid schizophrenics. They were given the URL’s to all conservative and libertarian blogs and receive a measured dose for every troll comment they post. “GlennBeckIsADemagogue” fits this profile. I should check his source IP to determine which institution he is posting from. Hehe….
Report Post »B4B
Posted on October 2, 2010 at 10:59am“Compassion for the United States swept the globe right after the attacks, but conspiracy theories were circulating even then. ”
Report Post »Also circulating were the video-taped reactions of Muslims across the globe…as they celebrated in the streets, euphoric over the murder of thousands of Americans.
When we speak of cultural divide, it’s worth noting that Americans / Westerners take to the streets to celebrate the ending of hostility, not the initiation of it.
Frankly, I have stopped caring about what the Muslim world thinks.
David Foxfire
Posted on October 2, 2010 at 1:44pmThat’s why I say that all I care to know about 9-11 is this: Thousands died, millions fapped–Yes, they actually masturbated–and half of whoever was left wanted to lynch Bush the Younger over the whole thing. Not put on trial, just executed.
It’s probably why I started writing my fiction series, where America is given a Cold Reboot on another planet. It seems to be the only way it can actually survive. And if it weren’t for Glenn Beck and his 9-12 movement, I wouldn’t even consider raising the Stars and Stripes again.
Report Post »LukeAppling
Posted on October 2, 2010 at 10:45amThe men of Easy Company in “Band of Brothers” have no doubt about the holocaust and it’s horrors.
Report Post »It serves the muslim world to deny the holocaust and threaten the existence of Israel to keep them in turmoil just as Arafat did for 40 years while reaping millions of dollars for“ the Palestinian cause”.
That is an ignorant part of the world which is kept under control by mullahs, madmen and chaos. If another religion was brought in to refute Islam there would be massive denunciation of Islam.
If Islam ever gets a foothold in America the groups that make up the democratic party would be beheaded.
Devil in Arkansas
Posted on October 2, 2010 at 10:40amYeah, we all know Lil’ Bush had the brains and ability to pull off this massive hoax, and somehow keep his name out of it, too. The former drunk, who can’t eat snack food without choking himself. I believe that. Seems like those who believe in this conspiracy theory are of little/no education, and/or are also Muslims who CHOOSE to have their brains controlled by a Brutal Medieval Theocracy. I think I’ll stick with the facts and documented evidence until such time I am abducted by aliens from another galaxy. Then I may have to re-think my position.
Report Post »Contrarianthinker
Posted on October 2, 2010 at 1:27pmFalse assumption. I know of one in the 1000 scientists who think Bush did this. You’re simply hooked on the MSM message. It was a dark side in our govt which doeswn’t change no matter whether GOP or DP in power. To think that there aren’t these people is a dangerous assumption whic places at a dangerous disadvantage. You MUST know who your real enemy is to win. Certainly there is transnational terrorism that brought the actual attack on 911. God help America to destroy these secret combinations.
Report Post »Devil in Arkansas
Posted on October 2, 2010 at 3:42pmCertainly our government has a dark side, and the Bilderberg group with all of their power, money and influence, still doesn’t have a chance of hiding their involvement if that were true.
Report Post »Contrarianthinker
Posted on October 2, 2010 at 3:54pmDevil your post confused me. Please elaborate. Thank you
Report Post »Devil in Arkansas
Posted on October 2, 2010 at 4:28pmContrarian,
Bush couldn’t possibly have been involved in a 9-11 conspiracy– he just doesn’t posess the brains or talent, although his buffoon image could be used by others to hide behind.
The Bilderberg Group is generally accused of being a political conspiracy group. Again, just a conspiracy THEORY. They have also been blamed for orchestrating 9-11.
Report Post »Contrarianthinker
Posted on October 2, 2010 at 9:17pmDevil so can I assume that you‘ve given an open minded study of the Bilderburg group and just found them a bunch of rich people who conduct all their business in the strictest security because they just enjoy each other’s company?
Report Post »Devil in Arkansas
Posted on October 2, 2010 at 10:28pmContrarian,
One thing I know for sure: YOU don’t know a damn thing more about them than anyone else. Unless you want to report back here with videos of your personal interviews with them, I submit that your ideas regarding this ‘dark side’ are simply unproven theories.
Report Post »Contrarianthinker
Posted on October 3, 2010 at 12:56pmDevil, no I haven’t personally been there at any meetings. I have read reports from those who were year after year.
In the early years, security wasn’t so tight so investigative reporters inviltrated the meetings and then reported on them. Once this was found out, security became even tighter than when the POTUS speaks somewhere.
How then did the invstigative reporters get the info? NOT all people are traitors. The info came from within the ranks of the Bilderburgers. When one has this information and then sees what happens in world affairs, I often stunned how many of their plans come about.
You call that coincidence. I call it evidence of the power of the world power elites.
You ignore their power at your own risk. I trust in God that He will help expose these Luciferian forces that He predicted would be here in these latter days. God loves us so much that He gave you and I the freedom to choose to obey Him or not. This is the loving God I choose to worship.
Report Post »Max jones
Posted on October 3, 2010 at 10:37pmIf the New wowrld order is Islamic, or totally atheistic/socialist it doesn’t matter to Christian believers….we, as disciples of Yeshua, LORD’s Savior: we are the target!!!
Report Post »There are bands, platoons, and armies all over the world killing and rounding up Christians. This is not a coincidence. The uber-elite that is running the REAL situation are the same people that are ultimately responsible for the world’s economic melt-down, the rise of militant islam, and the insidious entitlement culture that has made all the people of the west vulnerable. The goal of this cabal/cartel of evil is plain…..total control, leading to the elimination of the judeo-christian peoples of the world. Many of our modern presidents and lesser poiticians and private financial institutions(FED,and wall street’s biggest banks) have made deals with this band of devils…Yes, even conservative republicans. Bit by bit this threat has been building and methods refined. Oh, of course there’s the money……they’ve very nearly got it ALL!!!!
So what’s next? With FEMA stock-piling coffins and preparing,all accross our country, over 800 internment camps, most of which are fully staffed(likely with foreign mercenaries), I’d be hard put to draw a conclusion that is hopeful.
There is no political solution. Pray continually, cherish the Word……..max
Devil in Arkansas
Posted on October 4, 2010 at 2:07pmContrarian,
AGAIN, Unless you want to report back here with videos of your personal interviews with them, I submit that your ideas regarding this ‘dark side’ are simply unproven theories.
As you may well be aware, I am not one to be guided simply on faith, but instead (like the majority of critical thinkers) require some documented proof, preferably from an unbiased source or personal experience.
I do agree, the secretive nature of the Bilderberg group certainly raises some doubts in my mind as to their honesty and intentions. FACTS are where it’s at. ‘I believe’ just doesn’t cut it.
Report Post »Devil in Arkansas
Posted on October 4, 2010 at 2:43pmGosh, MAX–
It must be a real strain to believe you are the sole target of all the hatred this world has to bear. That is certainly an immense responsibility, and not one to be taken lightly.
When you lump together the current economic mess, Islam, entitlement, The Federal Gov’t, Wall Street, greed, and FEMA, it‘s little wonder your brain hasn’t simply melted out of your ears from the pressure.
However, if you are speaking of the teachings of Mohammed, you are almost correct in your assessment that you are being targeted– YOU, and EVERYONE ELSE who will not bow to Allah and become a practicing Muslim.
I‘m not asking you to believe what I say on faith but you DO need to investigate it by reading the Qur’an, and become familiar with the principle of Taqiyya. No amount of praying will cause this plight on the free world to go away. What it is going to take is awareness, VOTING, GUTS, and a trusty firearm at your side. Throw a couple of prayers on top for good measure if you want to, and you‘ve got a combination that can’t miss. You just can’t keep a good infidel down…..
Report Post »Flagwaver
Posted on October 2, 2010 at 10:12amI’m curious which way they want it? Was President Bush the stupidest man in the United States as they claim, or was he smart enough to pull off an event that required thousands of man-hours of planning, thousands of people, and logistics that rival most military operations without one piece of evidence linking him to it?
Just curious.
Report Post »VanGrungy
Posted on October 2, 2010 at 10:24amIf anything, it’s the leftovers from Clinton who botched 9/11… It’s not like Bush replaced the whole bureaucracy of the USA that failed us… It’s the entrenched socialists that sabotage the USA through bureaucratic (intentional) incompetence…
Just sayin…
Report Post »yitty
Posted on October 2, 2010 at 10:07amGlennbeckisademagogue…….I think it is you who needs medication. I will agree with you that Glenn in the most dangerous person in America but he is to this administration. He is the only one with ****** big enough to take on this big machine and showing them up for who they are. You seriously need to wake up and do your own homework. Stop with the name calling and demonizing of the right…it’s not working. You have to start opening YOUR mind. Perhaps this quote from a Czech Republic’s Prager Zeitung newspaper sums it up best:
The danger to America is not Barack Obama, but a citizenry capable of
Report Post »entrusting a man like him with the Presidency. It will be far easier to
limit and undo the follies of an Obama presidency than to restore the
necessary common sense and good judgment to a depraved electorate willing to
have such a man for their president. The problem is much deeper and far more
serious than Mr. Obama, who is a mere symptom of what ails America. Blaming
the prince of the fools should not blind anyone to the vast confederacy of
fools that made him their prince. The Republic can survive a Barack Obama,
who is, after all, merely a fool. It is less likely to survive a multitude
of fools such as those who made him their president.
Stupid Windmill
Posted on October 2, 2010 at 10:15amSo what your saying is, your not saying anything at all?
I bet you don’t even know who Glenn Beck actually is.
Report Post »AlaskaRick
Posted on October 2, 2010 at 10:46amStupid Windmill is another useful idiot!!!
Report Post »Patriot Mommy
Posted on October 2, 2010 at 12:04pmSo tell us whinnymill who is he. Do you really know or do you just listen to what you hear other people say. He is just a man. A God fearing Christian like most of us in America who loves their Country and wants to take back the power that belongs to the people.as stated in the Constitution. He has the platform on Radio and TV to get the message out, but that is it. He is just one man. But with him we stand and we are mighty.
Report Post »Contrarianthinker
Posted on October 2, 2010 at 2:15pmStupid; I KNOW exactly who Glenn is. On August 24, 2009, it was revealed to me by the Holy Ghost that God had called Glenn to be His last days Patrick Henry/Thomas to raise the people up to battle for liberty. Scoff and mock as you wish. It is true with or without you.
Report Post »Joseph8
Posted on October 4, 2010 at 12:11amcontrarian, im a mormon and you make me cringe
Report Post »Devil in Arkansas
Posted on October 4, 2010 at 9:06pmContrarian:
Actually, on August 24, 2009 there was an event of even greater significance revealed to the world:
Los Angeles Times
‘Lethal levels’ of anesthetic propofol killed Michael Jackson
Report Post »VanGrungy
Posted on October 2, 2010 at 9:54amGlennBeckIsADemagogue is impotent
LOL
Report Post »Mikee T
Posted on October 2, 2010 at 9:53amGLENNBECKISADEMAGOGUE……. You may be on of the over medicated individuals as indicated by that post…… All you have to to is listen and clearly, the mainstream media are partisan toward progressive liberalism why ? Because they are all on board with the “Science” approach to our civilization and existence. Surely, you don’t refute that there is a decided “push back” against Judao-Christian influence in this country specifically because the founders were of that background and belief system. You know it…. Anything that has to do with “god fearing” behavior is denigrated and marginalized by mainstream media…. You saw that moron Bill Maher the other day on O’Reilly right ? Or are you too busy listening to Rachel Madcow….an imbecile with a superior education….an oxymoron that abounds in the U.S. these days…. Sorry pal, but most americans are looking to go back to the “old days” where things were more tradional….important things mattered like family values and god fearing behavior……go back under the rock……the party is over for progressives….
Report Post »Will NV
Posted on October 2, 2010 at 9:13amMany ignorant voters elected the worst prez ever. Barak Hussein Obama.
Report Post »The MSM did their job well.
Propaganda is their best weapon.
GlennBeckIsADemagogue
Posted on October 2, 2010 at 9:35amWill NV… doesn’t it seems strange that the far right goes out of their way to ridicule, smear, discredit any source of information that isn’t fox news? It’s kind of like the paranoid man who insists everyone else is crazy. Think about, dude. Do you really, really believe that everyone one else in the media is hellbent on misleading you, from the top of every news organisation to the most lowly reporter? Really? That’s scary. I‘m not sure if there are enough therapists and medications to treat all of y’all.
Report Post »AlaskaRick
Posted on October 2, 2010 at 9:56amKFC/POTUS
You are a “Useful idiot.” Try looking up the quote and find out who made it famous. You are the kind of follower he needed to execute his plans!!!
Report Post »Mikee T
Posted on October 2, 2010 at 10:03amAnd yes…..I, and many others DO believe that they are all on board…….it’s because they are “indoctrinated” to be “politically correct”……..a term which describes anything and everything is open for debate, dispute and discussion…….even sacred things like our Judao-Christian heritage under which this great nation was founded….. Do I think all the media personnel are part of this agenda because they are all part of this conspiracy even the lowliest of reporters (to quote you) ? No, some are just sheep following along pal…..just like the poor souls that drank that koolaid..get it ? My cousin is an accomplished lawyer and newspaper editor (retired) and she “loves” Obama….When I tried to debate her on the REAL issues…. I lost her…and this is a woman that has gone ALL THE WAY with her education……still, doesn’t get the fact that we, the people, want the power in our hands……..not big government and not a push toward euro-socialism…which, by the way, has NEVER WORKED anywhere it’s been applied….Do ya get it ? Private sector is under attack….No jobs…unless you work for government, a government contractor, a law firm (of which there bread and butter is served by government / court system) and union employees….is that liberty justice for all or just those on the gravy train ? Do ya get it yet ? Where is the right to the pursuit of happiness for private sector “country class” people like us ? Are ya reading me yet ???
Report Post »Contrarianthinker
Posted on October 2, 2010 at 2:18pmGlen, FWIW, I don’t. I find that as I look in on Progressive Blogs and prublications that 80% of the writings are insinuations: little factual material. IF you know of some Progressive BLOG, website and/or publication that is intellectually honest, I beg of you to let me know. OK?
Report Post »NotWaiting4Godot
Posted on October 2, 2010 at 5:06pmHey GlennBeckIsADemagogue
Posted on October 2, 2010 at 9:35am
Your wrote
“Do you really, really believe that everyone one else in the media is hellbent on misleading you, from the top of every news organization to the most lowly reporter?”
Are you saying: If enough liars band together to deem a certain “truth” to be a lie —- then defacto, a lie it becomes?
Report Post »Polwatcher
Posted on October 3, 2010 at 6:11amWill NV…Right on. Most of what we see and hear spoken on TV is read from script or a teleprompter.
Report Post »Max jones
Posted on October 3, 2010 at 11:08pm@glennbeckisademigogue……the funny part is; the real information is available..even to you, though you may not know this. I know you that you have not tried to find it, or is it you have selective memory?
Report Post »You are obviously not familiar with Bible prophecy, for ALL of these trends and actual events are foretold within them. You doubt, I am sure, but you also doubt more obvious, recent history, like the Christian origins of our laws and culture. You will serve the new world order with enthusiasm, and you might even believe you have found your soul..you will drop to your knees and worship the BEAST. You will have a lot of company. The whole world will look to the BEAST as savior, and then
…………THE HAMMER COMES DOWN, OOH YEA
THE HAMMER COMES DOWN
PA-RAISE THE LORD
THE HAMMER COMES DOWN
rightwingwacko
Posted on October 2, 2010 at 9:05amWe were warned about an impending attack . Ignored by our intelligence communities. I mean the information only came from our only real allie in the middle east Israel.Besides why would the FBI want to talk to the CIA or the NSA or visa versa about something like this.
Report Post »This could have been prevented had our illustrious leader at the time, Bill Clinton , had just took care of Bin Laden after the first world trade center attack or even after the attack on the naval ship. But no he had to be a coward and let him go because he didn’t want to step on toes. Excuse me but either or should have been considered a declaration of war.
So no I don’t believe the US was behind the attacks but I do believe a lot of inactivatey on behalf or our leadership and the security agencies helped them to be able to carry out the attack. Even then political correctness had started to kill us.
Freelancer
Posted on October 2, 2010 at 10:39amThe unfortunate reality of this whole “9/11 was an inside job” mess is that people realized early on that they could rake in tons of cash. People such as Alex Jones who refuse to acknowledge ANY studies that have been done to refute every claim they have made. They manufacture evidence and alter videos to justify their theories and sell “stuff” promoting it. The ludicrous movie “Loose Change” has been remade several times because it was PROVEN that video and photographs used in it’s production were ALTERED to make them look legit. The creator of the movie is quoted as saying that he would do anything necessary to become famous. Jesse “The Body” Ventura has jumped on the bandwagon and got his own series, “American Conspiracy” or whatever it’s called. These people are cashing in on the misery or the victims and they could not care less. There is a whole industry devoted to promoting conspiracies as fact and it makes the American people look stupid as hell in the eyes of the world.
If anyone sat down and took a serious look at 9/11 examining every aspect of it, it would have taken literally thousands of people to pull it off. Knowing what you know about people, can you really believe that by now, no one has leaked ANY documents outlining the “plan” or come forward with their story about how the conspiracy was pulled off? The nutjobs out there will ALWAYS fall back on the claim that these people are under threat of death if they talk…. But if these people got enough to come out and speak, their claim falls apart as an entire group would have to be erased to protect the secret. Quite frankly, the government is NOT that great at keeping secrets and holding their people to their word.
Report Post »NoName22
Posted on October 2, 2010 at 10:40amTHINK ABOUT IT…..
Radical Muslims attack the WTC. Patriot Act is passed. Now, because of supposed terrorist threats, homegrown terrorism….(except those “we can absorb”), government needs to monitor everything.
Again, after 9/11, we go to war in Afghanistan…..
The patriot act and ramping up of military both strengthen government. At the same time, Islam believes in a unity of church and state. Look at where they are building their new mosque. Free speech is slowly getting censored, which is prevalent in Muslim majority nations.
The choice of inaction by the government is an action in itself. New World Order can’t just be atheist, Islam fits the agenda well.
I am in NO WAY condemning Islam itself, just those individuals who use it for self-gain. And the Koran speaks against this, calling one of the worst sins someone can do.
Report Post »Contrarianthinker
Posted on October 2, 2010 at 1:18pmFree: I’ve found as a 911 Truther that those who deny the probability are also usually NeoCon oriented. I trust the 1000+ scientists, structrual engineers, achitects, and demolition experts. I also know that the truth will come out. Jesus promised us that these type sins would be shouted from the housetops.
True or false? We have lost more of the Bill of Rights since 911 then any other time in USA history. Even if you’re right about no dark side activities those in govt sure have “exploited” it excellently. I’m sure that was just a coincidence.
Do you deny that progressives and fascists who desire to bring down the USA and replace it with a Global Oredr. If you do, why?
Polwatcher
Posted on October 3, 2010 at 6:02amThere are many people that are conspiracy theorists. My problem with government conspiracies is that it is impossible to get each and every person to keep their mouth shut, no matter how hard they try. It only takes one person with hard evidence or many people with circumstantial evidence to break the story. I go with hard evidence, whether it be a single indisputable item or a large volume of circumstantial evidence. In the case of 9/11, there is neither and, in fact, the hard evidence is goes against the truthers.
I realize in advance, that I will not convince any truther one way or another.
Report Post »Contrarianthinker
Posted on October 3, 2010 at 12:06pmPollwatcher: Valid criticsm but unfortuatley the MSM fails to give coverage of eye witnessses. Some videos have been confiscated. Look at what happens to people who out the planners. They end up having accidents. To give up your life is great IF in doing so your death exposes the forces BUT you need to remember that many of these forces are behind the MSM. Being a Don Quiete)sp?) is NOT rewarded. It’s hard to be laughed at and mocked even by some Conservatives.
Report Post »Max jones
Posted on October 3, 2010 at 9:58pmThe REAL-ACTUAL conspiracy involves so many of our“ELITE” in the public and private spheres, (of both political parties) that it boggles the mind. If we could follow the money we would find a number of organizations all working for the same cause….destablization of the west. This is the prime progressive goal. WHY?
The ultimate installation of GLOBAL GOVERNANCE. This scenario really does include economic and cultural collapse-martial law and genocide.
All of the distractions and diversions that congress is fighting about are DESIGNED to be divisive,distracting and terribly interesting to our partisan electorate. All the while the federal reserve and the administration are using congress to siphon off all our wealth and security…to say nothing about our liberty Try to find out just where the stimulus money went….the fed….no paper trail!.
i wrote a RAP song:
every body‘s wonderin’ where the money went
let’s go ask the president
he‘ll say it’s been well spent
settin’ the stage for world government
we’ll be brave and make a stand
ask God for help to save our land
they’ll take our guns if they can
and deploy the “hip hop taliban”
they’ll junk the dollar and outlaw gold
to keep goods and services from being sold
so we‘ll be clever and we’ll be bold
barter and trade like the days of old
We’ll sing praises to father God
And thank HIS SON for the path he trod
(repeat)
waddaya think?
Report Post »VanGrungy
Posted on October 2, 2010 at 8:57amhttp://www.ottawacitizen.com/news/Crippled+conspiracies/3204235/story.html
Here’s another article, on topic…
Report Post »GlennBeckIsADemagogue
Posted on October 2, 2010 at 9:28amGlenn Beck and all these rightwing neo-conservatives are no different from Ahmadinejad in the belief that if you are going to tell a lie, it might as well be a whopper. Don’t waste your time with little lies, make it a gigantic one. It’s one of the things that propagandists do. Then just keep repeating it and repeating it. Another propagandists ploy. Then substantiate that lie with other lies. Ad nauseum. Not sure if Ahmadinejad is the most dangerous person in the world, but there is no doubt that Glenn Beck is the most dangerous person in America.
VanGrungy
Posted on October 2, 2010 at 9:30amhttp://vladtepesblog.com/?p=26233
“a self declared Muslim commented on the video to which I answered and led to the following thread. Frankly, I’m not sure if it’s funny or not exactly. But I think it is post worthy. So here it is.”
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Here’s an example of a muslim who lives under delusion… or not… When confronted with the verses that taqiyya spewing muslims love to deny exist, muslims have no recourse but to shut up or to keel you… It’s a good thing we have the internet…
While you are surfing about, be sure to stop by vladtepesblog.com for the latest on the Jihad in Europe… http://vladtepesblog.com/?p=26240 This is a good one… “See if you can catch the subtle, nuanced message this German of Turkish origins has for the people of Germany.”
Report Post »Stay cool folks… Yes, muslims will never give up the meme that Hitler was a ‘right winger’… Just mention the Grand Mufti of Jerusalem to shut them up…
AlaskaRick
Posted on October 2, 2010 at 9:41amI’ve always thought it funny that people really think our gov is smart enough and has the ability to keep these so called conspiracies quiet.
Report Post »AlaskaRick
Posted on October 2, 2010 at 9:50amIdiot with the stupid pic of POTUS and chicken. You are a moron. I dare you to actually research what Glenn has to say. Don’t just repeat what PMSNBC says!!!
Report Post »BehindBlueEyes
Posted on October 2, 2010 at 9:53amMore useless information from a troll (GlennBeckIsADemagogue) who has the mind of a 10 year old is probably in fact a 10 year old. Too bad his brain isn’t fully developed yet. Think of the life this troll must lead.
Report Post »Freelancer
Posted on October 2, 2010 at 11:25amFor all of you bleeding heart liberals who wish to toe the party line about Islam being the religion of peace and that we can ALL just get along…. Here is a VERY GRAPHIC video of how these “ambassadors of peace” treat Christians and every other infidel. This is one of many thousands of videos out there proving what they really want for anyone who refuses to submit. The crime of the person being executed in this video? He was a Christian and that was all.
WARNING: THIS VIDEO IS EXTREMELY GRAPHIC!!!
http://www.truthtube.tv/play.php?vid=2025
Report Post »jnword
Posted on October 2, 2010 at 11:47amThe entire fact they had to blow up WORLD TRADE building 6 with all their secerets of how this government and the UK decieved the public that the Al Qaeda( entity built by CIA MI5 and Zionists) were out to get the USA, and world.They have been planning this for decades. Kissinger said” Peace must be secured create small wars around the globe on a continuning basis,to maintain international and ecnomic powers and the military happy” The he and Nixon seceretly bomb Cambodia,we have been lied to since NOv 1910 ,Jekyll Island meeting. Acutally even before that ask Alexander Hamilton ( agent of Rothschilds) what he was up to for a Central Bank. Wake up folks!!!
Report Post »MrObvious
Posted on October 2, 2010 at 11:56amSeems like a large chunk, about 30%, of the Islamic world is reality challenged.
That may have to do with how the religion has typically been spread.
It may also have to do with some of it’s less plausible bits and pieces, and the concept that the Koran is supposed to be taken literally.
If you are willing to take an entire religious tome literally, irregardless of the inconsistencies within it or the implausibility of some of its content, then you can be expected to believe almost anything your religious leaders tell you to.
On its face Sharia law is at direct odds with the Pillars.
How can any devout literalistic Muslim not go a little insane from the contradictions?
In other religions the problems also existed. Over the centuries, most people have learned not to take stories in their religious texts as commands to be carried out. Apparent contradictions and implausibilities have been converted to fables or magical items that are only believed in as a matter of faith.
The Mormons have that whole thing with the seer stones; and, Christians, in general, have JC’s immaculate conception, and resurrection.
Most are willing to accept these things as a matter of faith; but, not allow it to distort their perceptions of reality in general.
Based on the polling about 9-11, about 30%, or maybe even more, of Muslims seem willing to allow their religion to distort their daily perceptions of reality.
That doesn’t make all of them terrorists, just insane.
Report Post »yankee03
Posted on October 2, 2010 at 12:27pmHow dangerous is small gov’t, reduced spending by the govt , increased individual freedom (and responsibility), original source history, and the return to faith based life???? Really are you serious or just a communist that cant stand the Constitution, or what this country stands for in the scope of human development? No other country has limited it‘s gov’t with a Bill of Rights, not one. No other country has educated more, allowed more personal wealth and all of those accomplishments happen to this day , regardless of Progressives that strive to turn back the Bill of Rights and reduce individual freedom-chew on that before you throw most dangerous man out there like you have any idea about the dangers out there, (like Iran, AQ, Marxists and polarizing rabble rousers like you)
Report Post »NotWaiting4Godot
Posted on October 2, 2010 at 4:21pmFirst the Saudi funds; then the university endowments, Islamic studies programs, facilities, Wahhabi professors, and foreign students; then the acquisition of rural acreage; then the mosques, ethnic shopping centers, residential sub-divisions, and finally subsidized Muslim immigrants are imported to inhabit the prefab neighborhoods; then the community education on lawfare tactics, working the welfare state, manipulating progressive infidels, complaining about the Innumerable ways the U.S. Constitution and Western culture offends Muslims; and then secret Shari’a courts within the communities; finally leveraging of post-constitutional useful idiot progressives to destabilize the law to eventually make way for universal Shari’a.
Infidels don’t have children; they abort them. Muslims don’t abort, they grow large families. If Muslims ever become a political majority and impose Shari’a they will stop complaining. It’s the Infidel who will complain. But only once, and at the cost of his life.
America, what a country!
Report Post »NotWaiting4Godot
Posted on October 2, 2010 at 4:46pmDear GlennBeckIsADemagogue and Fellow Traveler
Posted on October 2, 2010 at 9:28am
GlennBeckIsADemagogue stated “Glenn Beck and all these rightwing neo-conservatives are no different from Ahmadinejad in the belief that if you are going to tell a lie, it might as well be a whopper.”
An opinion is just that, an opinion. Until you and the other contra-Becks enumerate Beck’s “lies”, your posts are just your opinions. What were the specific lies and what is your evidence?
You have proven your ability to rant. But, can you argue?
Report Post »chazman
Posted on October 2, 2010 at 6:40pmOnly dangerous to you lousy, Liberal Marxist’ you snot-nosed punk…
Report Post »NONA
Posted on October 2, 2010 at 10:17pmHey, who in the world do you think you are calling beck a dangerous man? Are you a brother of George Soros , Bill Ayers, Van Jones and the whole gang of cronies BROTHERHOOD? Too late!!!! we the PEOPLE have you all figured out. you can’t pool the wool over our eyes any LONGER…
Report Post »Thinker4Life
Posted on October 3, 2010 at 2:07amhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7E3oIbO0AWE
Report Post »Melvin Spittle
Posted on October 4, 2010 at 6:33pmNotWaiting4Godot stated:
“An opinion is just that, an opinion. Until you and the other contra-Becks enumerate Beck’s “lies”, your posts are just your opinions. What were the specific lies and what is your evidence?”
Very well put. Unfortunately, public comment threads are heavy on emotion and very light on logically supported argument.
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