‘A Poorly Disguised Cap-And-Tax Scheme’: EPA Moves to Impose Greenhouse Gas Regs on Power Plants
- Posted on March 27, 2012 at 6:31pm by
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The Environmental Protection Agency (EPA) proposed on Tuesday new carbon dioxide emissions standards that threaten to drive up utility costs, “crush jobs,” and “destroy economic recovery,” according to National Mining Association (NMA) President and CEO Hal Quinn.
“[The] EPA’s proposal for controlling greenhouse gas emissions from about half the nation’s electric power supply is a poorly disguised cap-and-tax scheme that represents energy and economic policy at its worst,” Quinn said in a statement.
The regulations will limit the emissions from new coal-based plants (as opposed to plants that existed before the drafting of the proposal). This, of course, will discourage entrepreneurs from establishing and building new power plants. And although the proposed regulations don’t specifically dictate which fuels a plant can and can’t burn, the rules still require new coal plants to match the dioxide emissions from more their “more efficient” gas-powered cousins, according to Reuters.
“The proposed rule…will require any new power plant to emit no more than 1,000 pounds of carbon dioxide per megawatt of electricity produced,” the Washington Post’s Juliet Eilperin writes. “The average U.S. natural gas plant, which emits 800 to 850 pounds of CO2 per megawatt, meets that standard; coal plants emit an average of 1,768 pounds of carbon dioxide per megawatt.”
As mentioned in the above, these emissions standards are supposedly meant for only new plants. However, the regulations could set the stage for the EPA to come after existing plants in the coming years, Reuters notes.
“We’re putting in place a standard that relies on the use of clean, American made technology to tackle a challenge that we can’t leave to our kids and grandkids,” EPA Administrator Lisa Jackson said in a release.
In order to meet the EPA’s new emissions standards, coal-based power plants have been encouraged to invest in equipment that captures carbon emissions and buries them underground for “permanent storage.” But there’s a catch: carbon capture and storage technology isn’t yet “commercially available,” according to the coal industry.
Not to worry; the EPA believes the tech will be available soon enough.
“Supporters of the rules argue that the industry has been moving away from coal and towards natural gas because of low prices and abundant supply,” Reuters reports.
“The portion of U.S. electricity fired by coal has slipped from about 50 percent to 45 percent in the last few years as hydraulic fracturing, or fracking, and other drilling techniques have allowed access to vast new domestic supplies of natural gas,” the report adds.
However, as Ed Morrisey of Hot Air points out, considering the EPA’s current stance against natural gas, this argument may not hold up very well:
This leads us to the natural-gas option…The response might be, “Well, okay, Obama’s bankrupting the coal industry, but we can still use natural gas.” That’s only true if we can get the natural gas. The EPA has also begun blocking the use of hydraulic fracturing, better known as fracking, which allows for massive improvement in extraction and access to vast amounts of natural gas.
Environmentalist groups praised the Obama administration for proposing “performance standard rules” they say will help “protect the country from climate change.”
“The bottom line for our country is that cleaner power will cut harmful carbon dioxide pollution, protect our children and help secure a safe prosperous future,” said Vickie Patton, the general counsel for the Environmental Defense Fund.
Oh, but here’s the best part: none of these new EPA climate rules need to be approved by Congress.
“After Congress refused to pass carbon caps, the administration insisted there were other ways to skin the cat, and this is another way — by setting a standard deliberately calculated to drive affordable coal out of the electricity market,” NMA spokesman Luke Popovich told the Washington Post.
NMA president Quinn echoed these sentiment in a searing statement:
Higher utility bills and fewer jobs are the only certain outcomes from this reckless attempt to override Congress’s repeated refusal to enact punitive caps on carbon dioxide emissions.
Requiring coal-based power plants to meet an emissions standard based on natural gas technology is a policy overtly calculated to destroy a significant portion of America’s electricity supply. This is a movie we have seen before, and the script remains unchanged. Volatile natural gas prices will, once again, expose millions of households to higher utility bills, threaten hundreds of thousands of workers with unemployment and weaken both the competitiveness of basic industries and the reliability of the nation’s electricity grid.
This proposal is the latest convoy in EPA’s regulatory train wreck that is rolling across America, crushing jobs and arresting our economic recovery at every stop. It is not an “all of the above” energy strategy; it does not create jobs; and it does not make it easier for Americans to pay their mortgages. Instead, the proposed New Source Performance Standards would deliberately push America to abandon coal, its most abundant and reliable energy source in favor of costlier fuels—even though Congress has repeatedly rejected this policy.
“If you thought gas prices will never stop rising, just wait until you see what happens to electricity after the Barack Obama’s EPA gets its way,” Ed Morrissey writes.
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REPUB1
Posted on March 27, 2012 at 7:34pmi am going to start a business scheme of my own “Bags O FART” fart Baggies!!! and sell the gas to the EPA anybody want to INVEST????
Report Post »aChameleon
Posted on March 27, 2012 at 7:48pmThought about it, I’m in.
Report Post »Haroldm1
Posted on March 27, 2012 at 8:13pmGood News…I just captured my first of many deposits into the Bag-O-Farts. I‘m sure it’s high quality, since I have had cauliflower recently..It may be good enough to generate 1,000 megawatt to off set the Coal Powered Plant…Updates to follow…
Report Post »JQCitizen
Posted on March 27, 2012 at 9:40pmAh, you definitely are a man of the “future”. I’m sure Obummer will approve! LOL!!!
Report Post »oldguy49
Posted on March 27, 2012 at 9:45pmobama said in 2008 that under his plan energy prices would skyrocket………………now where do i buy the gas bag{i had beans and boiled eggs}better than colliflower
Report Post »MCDAVE
Posted on March 27, 2012 at 11:14pmPackage your next crap in a box and send it to the white house…He keeps dumping his **** on us.
Report Post »oldguy49
Posted on March 27, 2012 at 11:50pmdo you suppose congress would cut off funding for epa………….after all it was invented 35 years ago to help get us off foreign oil dependance{20 to 30%}..now after billions of dollars we are importing like 70%………………government at its best
Report Post »TexasHunter
Posted on March 28, 2012 at 11:09amEVERYONE Call your local Congress Man and DEMAND that the EPA be stopped. They are ruining our future of manufacturing here in the USA and making us dependent of foreign importing! This has to STOP NOW.. Please if enough people complain this has to come to the house floor!
Report Post »HKS
Posted on March 28, 2012 at 11:19amJust a thought that I haven’t heard discussed. Which is more of a detriment to the environment, 1) forest fires or 2) coal fired power plants. I have been in the area of both and power plants don’t bother me, in fact I don’t even notice them. However, can’t breathe when a forest fire is around. With that said, why are power plants that we must have to live in our society, the object of scorn here when controlling forest fires would be of more benefit to the environment. Forest fires go on for weeks and months, I’m sure with the resources that we are putting into high utility cost we could put out a forest fire real quick with more equipment. Save the environment and get the power we need for free. I guess it‘s Just one of those old logic things that liberals can’t comprehend.
Report Post »REPUB1
Posted on March 27, 2012 at 7:31pmThe Environmental Protection Agency (EPA) proposed on Tuesday new carbon dioxide emissions standards that threaten to drive up utility costs, “crush jobs,” and “destroy economic recovery,”
RIGHT ON TIME BUT hey they will get their EPA share of the loot and share with obummer and the DEMORATS!
Report Post »1casawizard
Posted on March 27, 2012 at 8:12pmI‘m not paying enough for the juice and I’m choking on all this CO2 I’m not complaining about the hundred dollar fillups either. bamstertotherescue.yeehaa
Report Post »hallkbrdz
Posted on March 27, 2012 at 9:24pmI propose a law to force the EPA the eliminate soda pop and other carbonated (CO2) beverages from being sold or consumed at all their buildings and locations.
What EPA – you don’t think that is fair?
Sucks when the shoe is on the other foot eh?
Report Post »Bum thrower
Posted on March 28, 2012 at 9:14amBHO said he was gonna do this; Hey folks, how’s that “hope and Change” goin’?
Pay more for gas, electricity, as you slave at your low pay job to pay the slaries of those ‘wonderful’ bureaucrats that spend their day dreaming up more **** to make your life miserable.
Maybe the ‘fart guys’ above can figure how to run a 747 on it; or some othrer form of ‘green energy’?
What a crock……..
Report Post »progressiveslayer
Posted on March 27, 2012 at 7:29pmSee the Marxist POS kept his word on skyrocketing electricity rates.http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4aTf5gjvNvo
Report Post »yougottabekidding
Posted on March 27, 2012 at 7:48pmGreat thought very original. I think I saw that some where . Oh I know just before you said I had no reading comprehension!!!!!!
Report Post »progressiveslayer
Posted on March 27, 2012 at 8:01pmAwww now no call in being like that,you’re not very nice to a patriot.
Report Post »yougottabekidding
Posted on March 27, 2012 at 8:10pmYou reap what you sow.
Say “I’m sorry”
Report Post »progressiveslayer
Posted on March 27, 2012 at 8:15pmCan’t do that pardner,normally I would just trash you but I‘m very tired this evening so you’re off the hook.
Report Post »I’m sure we can chat on a different story some other time,good day to you.
yougottabekidding
Posted on March 27, 2012 at 8:28pmWhat nobody elses thoughts or ideas available to you. Did the person next to you going “say this” leave?
Report Post »Lt_Scrounge
Posted on March 27, 2012 at 10:43pmI’ve got an idea. Why don’t we have congress add an amendment to one of the “Must Pass” bills that require that for every job lost to an EPA regulation, one bureaucrat loses his job. Anyone care to bet how fast the bureaucrats discover that Global Warming and Carbon Dioxide aren’t really that big of a problem when they are the ones facing losing their jobs. Even better would be to make it a PERMANENT reduction in staffing at the EPA so that once the bureaucrat is canned the position is eliminated entirely from the agencies budget.
Report Post »HorseCrazy
Posted on March 27, 2012 at 11:54pmI paid 1200-1600$ a month to heat my house this winter and I have 2 wood burning stoves. My trucks gas bill for me and my husband is 600$ a month for us to work…yes real estate I have to drive around I cannot show houses on my horse as the idiot and chief wants me to take transit? not happening or possible. We found out it is cheaper to use my generator filled with gas or my diesel generator to pump my well and heat my house than the electricity itself. this was discovered on a 2 week power outage. Got to say with gas prices as high as they are and the fact I have a 15,000 watt generator the figures are just absolutely absurd. he is most definately screwing with my families finances.
Report Post »whereareyourbrains
Posted on March 27, 2012 at 7:24pmAmerican gave their country to Obama when they voted for him. He is slick and has so so many people fooled. A lot like Hitler did. Don’t blame congress…………the senate turns down everything that is sent to them. We gotta take over that senate. Obama loved congress till it became GOP controlled and has brainwashed people into thinking it is congresses fault. It is HARRY REID…….the puppet to Obama……………………….
Report Post »Ghostmaker
Posted on March 27, 2012 at 7:19pmLooks like the Aussies have decided they are tired of green. Seems the labor party just got removed from a majority to a total of 7 representatives of 89…. Hopefully the future of Obama.
Report Post »2small2succeed
Posted on March 27, 2012 at 7:19pmThis is all planned out for reasons, hope others figured it out.
Report Post »Ghostmaker
Posted on March 27, 2012 at 7:14pmCO2 is plant food.
“[A]tmospheric CO2 concentration has been rapidly increasing for the last two centuries, with the increase dramatically accelerating in the 20th century. Numerous controlled experiments have frequently shown an increase in tree growth rates under elevated CO2 due to the CO2 ‘fertilisation effect’, including species of trees from Australian monsoon rainforest. Elevated atmospheric CO2 has the potential to shift forest-savanna boundaries as it advantages trees and shrubs (C3 photosynthetic pathway) over (predominantly C4) tropical grasses with the consequence of changing the strongly contrasting fuel types between rainforest and savanna (grass vs. leaf litter). Thus, fire regimes may also change because woody plants can suppress grassy fuels, reversing the well known positive feedback between fire and grass cover. Elevated CO2 may also indirectly increase growth by improving plant water status. Thus, rising atmospheric CO2 may be the primary driver of the widespread woody vegetation expansion.”
source http://www.worldclimatereport.com/index.php/2012/03/22/tropical-forests-rejoice/
Report Post »psycodad36
Posted on March 27, 2012 at 8:42pmso, whats the bad part ?
Report Post »progressiveslayer
Posted on March 27, 2012 at 7:08pmWindmills are a superior form of energy,that‘s why we stopped using them in the 1800’s.Solar is a joke and the whole ‘green energy’ movement is BS.We have enough shale oil in the U.S to last two centuries,for those of you who voted for the Marxist POS that’s two hundred years.More oil on the market will lower the price,you don’t have to be a Nobel prize recipient to understand this concept.
Since our Marxist POS president has a war on fossil fuels the shale oil or any oil for that matter won’t be exploited,no we’ll have to fire the Marxist in chief and in a perfect world abolish the unconstitutional EPA to make progress in lowering our energy cost.
Report Post »yougottabekidding
Posted on March 27, 2012 at 7:20pmUnited Mine Workers he’s behind you all the way. Bend over!!!!!!!!!! Another union fooled!
Under his watch electricity will skyrocket– his words
By the way if wind is superior why is it killing so much wildlife and what happens if there is no wind?
Report Post »progressiveslayer
Posted on March 27, 2012 at 7:27pmYOUGOTTABEKIDDING Your reading comprehension leaves much to be desired.
Report Post »yougottabekidding
Posted on March 27, 2012 at 7:30pmBy the by when they shut down all the fossil plants and the wind is not blowing it will cost a million dollars to drive your electric car 40 miles, IF you make the rationing list. But you are not one of the elite democrates.
Report Post »yougottabekidding
Posted on March 27, 2012 at 7:44pmYOUGOTTABEKIDDING Your reading comprehension leaves much to be desired.
Report Post »I guess you have reading comprehension problem as I did not elude to you thinking it was superior, but to the fact that it is a prevalent, worthless thought of the elite.
1casawizard
Posted on March 27, 2012 at 8:23pmHe makes a great CIC. He has such a nice crease in his slacks. He carries himself so well and can you think of any one smarter than this one who walks amongst US? Daffy Duck would make a better Pres. than this clown whom acts stupidly with every breath.
Report Post »Zwiseguy
Posted on March 27, 2012 at 7:07pmYay… EPA… It‘s like they’re chaining you up and saying, “Don‘t worry you’ll get yourself out of there eventually!”
Report Post »Robert-CA
Posted on March 27, 2012 at 6:56pmThat’s why four more years sounds a great idea .
Obey Obama’s EPA !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! or else !!!!!!!!!!!!
Report Post »db321
Posted on March 27, 2012 at 7:04pmSatan and his followers are taking the shiniest Apple from the tree. Who are Satan followers – those that vote for Obama – what does God say happens to Satan followers – they are cast into the lake of fire for eternity.
Report Post »TheObamanation
Posted on March 27, 2012 at 6:55pm224 days until we have a president again … but who’s counting
Report Post »football lady
Posted on March 27, 2012 at 9:41pmAnybody but Obama!
Report Post »umreb78
Posted on March 27, 2012 at 6:54pmHey Stupid. All I need to know about you I have gleaned from your moronic posts. Never had so much as an intro course in economics have you? Well, not to worry…neither has your Communist Leader and look how well he’s done. You sir, are a complete imbecile.
Report Post »TH30PH1LUS
Posted on March 27, 2012 at 6:53pmFROM the article: “performance standard rules” they say will help “protect the country from climate change.”
Right. But… I thought they claimed it was GLOBAL warming? Doesn’t that mean the entire planet? Obama’s new rules will suspend the laws of physics and stop the warming effect at the United States borders? HA!
Maybe these nutjobs ought to take a look at what China and India are doing with their industry and pollution standards.
America’s survival depends on us strengthening our fossil fuel industries – not shackling them with more environmental extortion.
Report Post »Listen_then_think
Posted on March 27, 2012 at 6:53pmEPA needs to be terminated.
Report Post »AJAYW
Posted on March 27, 2012 at 6:51pmWhy don’t we just send the congress home and quit paying them- they mean nothing anymore they have given all their power to obama.
Report Post »whereareyourbrains
Posted on March 27, 2012 at 7:21pmHarry Reid has tabled all their bills. They are working and the Senate is refusing to pass them/ Don’t blame it all on congress……..you sound like Obama………….you actually believe him……….dah.
Report Post »cuinsong
Posted on March 27, 2012 at 6:50pmI can only say that I fear the end is near!
Report Post »As time go’s by things seem to by speeding up.
We seem to be ushering in our own destruction and as the clock ticks down
this song gets more and more true every day!
“The End Times” http://www.reverbnation.com/play_now/song_10381143
The Gooch
Posted on March 27, 2012 at 6:49pmHmm… Are poor people more “green” and environmentally friendly than the middle class? It appears so since the progressives just can’t make energy expensive enough and ease the burden upon those of us dealing with a crap economy.
Report Post »Eh, I don’t need electricity. I’ll just collect the dead animals around the local windmills. Can I at least roast them over a fire? Probably not per the EPA.
MAMMY_NUNN
Posted on March 27, 2012 at 7:08pmI would hate to be a poor family living in a large city like NY or Detroit, Chicago this summer when the heat gets to it’s highest and cannot afford to run their fans or airconditioning. I believe the death toll will be higher this summer. Especially among the poor.
Report Post »Lt_Scrounge
Posted on March 27, 2012 at 10:58pmActually Mammy, Obamao‘s public housing project residing voter base won’t have a problem with skyrocketing energy prices at all. Their utilities are included in the nominal rent that they pay. In New Jersey the only additional cost of having an air conditioner was an additional $30 a month, no matter how much you ran it. The New Jersey tax payers covered the difference. There were people living in the projects for multiple generations. Every spring the welfare crowd would show up at the Rent to own store I worked at for an A/C unit and we went and picked it up a few months later. As long as they were renting an A/C unit, it didn’t count as an asset against their rent. That‘s why they didn’t buy anything, only rent. It seemed ridiculous to me that people were living in two and three bedroom townhouses with utilities included (taxpayer subsidized of course) for less than I was paying for an apartment without the utilities and using the difference to rent themselves 100 watt home entertainment centers and big screen TVs that I couldn’t afford.
Report Post »OperationNorthwoods
Posted on March 27, 2012 at 6:49pmImpeachment now!
Report Post »burke
Posted on March 27, 2012 at 6:49pmThe first order of business for the next Republican president, Romny or Santorum is to abolish everything the EPA has done since Obama the Muslim’s first day in office. Second thing: Aboilsh the EPA once & for all, Third thing: Open up drilling everywhere that Bush wanted to, And last Build the God Dam pipeline, then sit back & watch gas come down to under 2 bucks & tell all of the Demorats, Told ya there was a silver bullet.
Report Post »SheriS
Posted on March 27, 2012 at 6:46pmIn my area we call the fiasco “crap and tax” which is what it is and now EPA wants to stop all coal fired generating electricity plants! Good luck with that since almost all plants are coal fired!
Report Post »shogun459
Posted on March 27, 2012 at 6:44pmThe EPA is the Terrorist arm of the Environmental Movement and the DNC.
Report Post »possom
Posted on March 27, 2012 at 6:40pmIf there so worried about CO2 then why don‘t they start planting some tree’s?
Report Post »tbo
Posted on March 27, 2012 at 6:58pmBetter yet, If they are so concerned about CO2 than maybe they should stop breathing.
Report Post »TheObamanation
Posted on March 27, 2012 at 7:11pmAccording to Ecology.com, “It is estimated that between 70% and 80% of the oxygen in the atmosphere is produced by marine plants.” Because so many species of marine plant life are technically algae, that makes algae the plant singly responsible for producing most of the oxygen we breathe. The earth contains almost three times as much water surface as land surface, so it stands to reason that marine plant life produces much more oxygen than land plants … I copy & pasted this … but … it’s interesting in light of all the publicity the rain forest has gotten.
Report Post »Baddoggy
Posted on March 27, 2012 at 6:38pmSimple. Defund them now.
Report Post »Sirfoldallot
Posted on March 27, 2012 at 6:36pmWe here in NW. Fl. depend on coal 4 elec. power, way 2 go EPA. Why r these nut job in charge of every thing ?
Report Post »Stupid Windmill
Posted on March 27, 2012 at 6:36pmRegulations like these will further research into more efficient energy sources thus maintaining the supremacy of the United States. A Good News Story.
Report Post »Sirfoldallot
Posted on March 27, 2012 at 6:38pmStupid somes it up 4 u.
Report Post »Psychosis
Posted on March 27, 2012 at 6:40pmlook, the stupid windmill hates old people and the poor , and wants their electricity rates to skyrocket
Report Post »Sirfoldallot
Posted on March 27, 2012 at 6:43pmfits u well that name.
Report Post »Stupid Windmill
Posted on March 27, 2012 at 6:45pm@Yall
Rates are going to skyrocket if we don’t fund alternative energy sources thus increasing competition in the market. My point stands.
Report Post »shogun459
Posted on March 27, 2012 at 6:46pmyou are a dreamer that has drank the Kool aid.
The replacement Tech hasn’t been invented yet, they say in the story that the tech should be along any time now.
Yeah, Right.
Report Post »Darmok and Jalad at Tanagra
Posted on March 27, 2012 at 6:58pmWhy do progressives want to kill old people and poor people? by making electrictiy rates skyrocket, there won’t be people able to buy food, go to work, they will freeze to death in the winter……oh, I see your plan. Kill all the old/sick/poor, so you and the uber class can have all the healthcare you want.
1. Make energy prices skyrocket
2. ??????
3. Utopia.
Great plan underwear Gnome.
Report Post »The Gooch
Posted on March 27, 2012 at 7:02pmThe EPA and like-minded entities won’t tolerate nuclear power, the acreage needed for wind power nor the acreage needed for solar power. There is no “guilt free” power and the NIMBY crowd rules this argument above and beyond economic or social concerns.
Report Post »Cutting off one‘s nose to spite one’s face isn’t wisdom; it’s sadomasochism. “Hey! Where’s that new nose! Whaddya mean I don’t have another nose?!?”
Well, at least my brother will remain employed as plants jump thru hoops to please the EPA. He’s a boilermaker, but most of his jobs revolve around addressing emission standards. Oh, and he is also the member of a powerful union. Hmm….
Regulation furthers research? Sure… I guess that accounts for why drug dealers are always attempting to beat “THE MAN”. Regulation breeds more regulation.
Believe as you will.
Darmok and Jalad at Tanagra
Posted on March 27, 2012 at 7:09pmAlso, if wind power is so great, why all the dead birds and bats? I guess that’s just a byproduct of clean energy.
Report Post »therealconservative
Posted on March 27, 2012 at 7:09pm@STUPID
Let’s go on a road trip. You drive your VOLT and I’ll drive my Jeep Liberty 4×4, heck I might even use my RV.
Report Post »Stupid Windmill
Posted on March 27, 2012 at 7:12pmRegulation creates more jobs thus more people being paid and able to afford electricity. My Point Stands.
Report Post »progressiveslayer
Posted on March 27, 2012 at 7:13pmNo dummy, regulations like these will make our energy cost more than it should.The wacko environmentalists will be happy when we’re all walking to work wait a second no one will be working,and we’ll all be in the dark.It’ll be great blackouts everywhere and the crime that goes with it.
Report Post »Ghostmaker
Posted on March 27, 2012 at 7:17pmLOL… Another idiot makes a claim that is not supported. Currently NO green energy manufacture can compete and stand on it’s own . Give it another 20 years maybe but not now or in the near future.
Report Post »JACKTHETOAD
Posted on March 27, 2012 at 7:25pm@STUPID WINDCHIMES Is that the aroma of Beefeater and limes I smell? :)
Report Post »The Gooch
Posted on March 27, 2012 at 7:47pmRegulation creates more jobs thus more people being paid and able to afford electricity. My Point Stands.
Wow. Regulation creates more govt. That DOES NOT translate to jobs. It only takes one (or a handful) of bureaucrats to rule via fiat. Not really a “taxing” calling… any zealot can do it. Oh, and per this story and many others, regulation kills jobs and competition. Chances are VERY good the owners of standing and operating plants supported these mandates. Funny how govt. works… not really.
Report Post »doyley64
Posted on March 27, 2012 at 11:11pm@STUPID
Regulation creates more jobs thus more people being paid and able to afford electricity. My Point Stands.
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That is the MOST ASSININE thing I have ever read on the BLAZE.
Report Post »CONGRATULATIONS, you win the prize!