ABC Shows Alleged Bloodied Image of Zimmerman’s Head on Night of Martin Shooting
- Posted on April 20, 2012 at 8:33am by
Billy Hallowell
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Update: George Zimmerman was granted $150,000 bond this morning. Read about it here.
Image Credit: ABC News
The dust is nowhere near settled in the complicated case surrounding 17-year-old Trayvon Martin’s death. This morning, ABC’s “Good Morning America” added a bombshell to the case when the show offered a first-time look at George Zimmerman‘s alleged injuries on the night of Martin’s demise.
(Related: ABC: New ‘Enhanced’ Video Seems to Show Injuries on Zimmerman’s Head)
Mediaite describes newly-released images that purportedly show Zimmerman’s bloodied head in the moments following his violent spat with the teenager:
On Friday, ABC’s Good Morning America offered an exclusive look at injuries allegedly sustained by George Zimmerman the night of his struggle with Florida teen Trayvon Martin — a struggle that ultimately ended in Martin’s death. Zimmerman, those close to him, and his legal team have maintained that the 17-year-old had knocked him to the ground and proceeded to bash the back of his head against pavement that February night in a Sanford, Florida neighborhood. [...]
The person who took the photograph at the scene says a dazed Zimmerman asked him to call his wife and tell her he’d just shot someone. The photographer also claims to have seen gun powder on Martin’s hoodie, an indication that the shooting allegedly occurred at close range.
GMA host Robin Roberts said that there’s no way to be entirely certain that the photograph is 100 percent legitimate, but that ABC News had vetted it for accuracy.
Watch the GMA video report explaining the images, below:
The Associated Press contributed to this report.
(H/T: Mediaite)
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IndyGuy
Posted on April 20, 2012 at 9:03amMSM:”In the news today,there’s a new picture of George Zimmerman….And in our next story blah,blah,blah”
Report Post »AvengerK
Posted on April 20, 2012 at 11:02amDon‘t you love Martin’s attorney’s response to these photos? Oh Zimmerman didn‘t have to have any stitches so it’s not a big deal. By all means..somebody beat Martin‘s attorney’s head into the pavement enough to open some wounds but preclude them from needing stitches and let‘s see how accomodating he’ll be then.
Report Post »MONICNE
Posted on April 20, 2012 at 11:20amThis photo is absolute evidence that there was blood involved. I think George should be released on a bail of $150 thousand, as long as he leaves the area for his own safety and agrees not to use non-prescription drugs or alcohol. And he should be limited to purchasing one handgun or concealable firearm a month until he is freed after the trial.
This entire incident never would have happened if Travon Martin had a concealed carry permit and a loaded S&W .45 ACP in his waistband. Laws must be enacted obliging citizens to own firearms (like the Swiss) and carry them at all times. Florida teenagers can obtain drivers licenses and legally have sex at 16, why not be required to carry guns & ammo too?
TEA
Unix
Posted on April 20, 2012 at 11:22amI think the prosecution is in a pickle now! They were wrong to arrest him, and I think they did so to calm the NBPP, etc down. They were intimidated by the black outcry, and they have ignored the facts presented to us so far! This is a travesty of justice, and Zimm will go free, then the NBPP will go on some rampage and who knows, all hell break loose! I sure hope that does not happen, we would ALL lose in the end! I never liked the idea of bypassing the GJ, and this woman is just trying to make a name for herself, and should be ashamed. We still don’t have all of the facts; however, so I will make no other judgement until we have all of the facts.
Report Post »TexasHunter
Posted on April 20, 2012 at 11:30amYahoo is posting a story saying that his wife supports him in the trial. What they are FAILING to mention and DELETING my comments is that is wife is African American!!
Report Post »TexasHunter
Posted on April 20, 2012 at 11:39amENCINOM MONICNE I believe that you should seek therapy for your bi polar split personalities. It is very scary and I bet within my life spam You are going to end up on the news as a serial… something. Please seek help before it is to late. If you are so troubled that you have to log in as multiple people to try to make your point than YOU YOURSELF here once again YOU have NO POINT!! Now please go log in as a different Troll.
Report Post »AvengerK
Posted on April 20, 2012 at 11:42amMONACNE….spare us your witless excrections on these boards. I see your meds wore off and you’re back to putting your obsessive/compulsive “TEA” tagline back on your posts. You slipped up on another board today and didn’t put it in..I guess your meds were still working at the time. Don’t forget to come back as your other screenname SLEAZY HIPPO and applaud yourself sweetie..there’s a good lefty schizo.
Report Post »TexasHunter
Posted on April 20, 2012 at 11:46amUNIX I hate to say this. But there is a time and a place for everything. Let em loose if they so choose.. The ISLAM PANTHERS can come see if they feel Allah on their side.
Report Post »rangerp
Posted on April 20, 2012 at 12:23pmMONICNE
So why a S&W .45 ACP?? generally S&W is more known for their revolvers, but the M&P line of pistols are making some headway in the semi auto market. S&W is not really know for ACPs.
That would be a pretty big chunk of steel to be carried in the waist band of a skinny little junior high kid that we see in the pics. Even if teens were allowed to carry, not sure Treyvon would be legit, with his previous history of having been caught with drugs and burglary tools.
good try on your comments, you might want to hang out on some gun forums for a while, and you might pick up knowledge to help in the posing and sarcasm.
Report Post »Unix
Posted on April 20, 2012 at 12:23pmTexas, man, I am with you, but if the can of worms is opened, there will be a lot of whup azz going on, and innocents will be hurt too! I hope cooler heads prevail, I really do, after all we are all Americans, and I think we could work this out, if we would just talk. But make no mistake, if they bring violence to me, it will be their last mistake!
To mocine or encino, who I think is the same poster, please, please, go to Huff’nPuffCompost.com, for you see, we really don’t care what you say anymore. You communists have shown us your colors and we don’t care for them much, the lines are drawn in the sand, please do step over it! However, I would much prefer we use the ballot box, and we are going to do that, and we are going to trump the witless communist left come November, and throw out the Progressives! BANK ON THE FACT, we will VOTE every blood sucking liberal communist OUT OF OFFICE, wherever we can come November!
Report Post »rangerp
Posted on April 20, 2012 at 12:25pmMONCINE,
just for your situational awareness, the most prefered pistol for the black thugs in America is the Sigma 9mm by Smith and Wesson.
Keep it real toots.
Report Post »Doctor Nordo
Posted on April 20, 2012 at 12:26pm@TEXASHUNTER
How do you know his wife is black? I‘m absolutely NOT saying you’re wrong, I’m just interested to see for myself.
Report Post »mils
Posted on April 20, 2012 at 12:26pmI AM REALLY TIRED OF THE MEDIA SHOWING TRAYVON AS THE LITTLE BOY, so cute,,,so innocent….LETS SEE THE 17 YEAR TRAYVON…THE 6 FT KID IN THE DARK HOODIE..NOT the little boy with the white hoodie like a halo..
Report Post »I , personall, do not believe Trayvon was so innocent.. He didn’t deserve to die..but he was not an innocent standing by …
Lets hear about the BLACK WOMAN THAT “DELIBERTLY” KILLED THE “WHITE” MOM IN TEXAS..AND STOLE HER BABY.. DELIBERTLY SHOT HER SEVERAL TIMES??!!!
????WHERE IS THE OUTRAGE ON THIS ONE???
mils
Posted on April 20, 2012 at 12:28pmIs george’s wife really black???? why have we not heard about this if so??
Report Post »rangerp
Posted on April 20, 2012 at 12:31pmmils
HEY THERE DUDE, YOU NEED TO EASE THE HELL UP.
You can not go off spouting facts and recent history concerning black on white crime and violence. Doing so violates all sorts of PC rules, and is going against the grain of the MSM, MTV, Public Schools, Jessie, AL, Obama, Holder….
Go sit in the shade, drink some kool aid, and listen to some peaceful gangster rap until you can calm down and blog nicely.
Report Post »texasbeta
Posted on April 20, 2012 at 12:35pmWho cares? Look, the guy, against police orders, chased down this kid who he was already spying on out the window…the kid was freaked out as evidenced by his phone call to his girlfriend where he talked about it and how scared he was. The guy chases him down 5 blocks…he was scared, beat his ass, and Zimmerman was too much of a little girl to take an ass whippin’ from a kid. Don’t start a fight, get your ass kicked, and then shoot the kid who beat your ass.
Report Post »rangerp
Posted on April 20, 2012 at 12:42pmtexasbeta
do you write comic books for a living?
Report Post »NeoFan
Posted on April 20, 2012 at 12:45pmIts just a flesh wound.
Report Post »Detroit paperboy
Posted on April 20, 2012 at 12:48pmIt’s a conspiracy of white Hispanics….. We all know those white Hispanics are hunting blacks like wild animals…..they set out a pair of air jordens and a forty ounce malt liquor and just wait for the herd to arrive….. Then blast em into oblivion, it‘s horrible and it’s happening every minute of everyday, those evil white Hispanics must be stopped…..
Report Post »West Coast Patriot
Posted on April 20, 2012 at 12:50pmUnix, I agree that we need to vote out ALL progressives in both parties, but, if we elect a progressive, just because he is a Republican, what good will it do? Romney is a progressive, otherwise all the elite corrupt corporations that backed Obama, would not be backing him. I just wonder why it is that people have a hard time seeing that fact.
Report Post »MONICNE
Posted on April 20, 2012 at 1:06pmHey check out the sleek and balanced 625 JM .45 ACP Revolver by Smith & Wesson. Nice Steel for a six foot teen (like many of our armed forces) who has been NRA trained and can handle recoil. Stands up well to the Zimmerman 9mm like a cougar to a bobcat. And no sharp edges to snag on a hoodie, LOL.
TEA
Report Post »tradexpertbuysell
Posted on April 20, 2012 at 1:15pmSounds like Zimmerman stood his ground. Win, loose or draw we should all do likewise.
Fear not. Evil will be overcome with good and American justice triumph!
(Bet that ticks off some of you trools, heh, heh, heh!)
Al Sharpton should be the only one on trial in this case for rascism!
(Notice I didn’t include “Rev.” in his name. He’s about as far removed from that hallowed title as the east is from the west.
Report Post »JRook
Posted on April 20, 2012 at 1:16pm@AvengerK Once again your disregard the sequence of events. Zimmerman followed the victim in his car. Zimmerman was told by the 911 attendant they did not need him to follow the victim. Zimmerman took it upon himself to get out of his car and approach the victim. Given who approached who, and who had the deadly weapon it would be the victim who should claim stand your ground. Not Zimmerman. It is illogical to suggest someone can claim stand your ground within a confrontation they created. That is the difference between Independent voters and the zealots from each party. We don’t start with the answer we are looking for and then back into the questions and interpret the facts to justify the ideological based answer and/or conclusion. Hey you have Fox New to do that for you.
Report Post »JohnnyMidknight
Posted on April 20, 2012 at 1:25pm@ West Coast Patriot
The answer is simply… Push hard for Senators and Representatives that are not progressive and have strong “conservative” views. Romney is powerless if Congress is more and more fiscal “conservative” and values liberty and the power of the individual as opposed to the government.
Romney can only sign what is given to him, and if he decides to veto it… Then congress can pass it with a majority (using the nuclear option).
I personally would like a super majority of Ron Pauls (sans the foreign policy views – but that may just be me).
Report Post »MONICNE
Posted on April 20, 2012 at 1:31pmI am just saying, if concealed carry were mandatory in that municipality, and Mr. Zimmerman understood that Mr. Martin was also allowed to stand his ground if bothered, this never would have happened.
When George apologized, (finally) he claimed he did not know it was a teenager he was killing. I do not understand why that should matter if you are scared for your life…and truly I wonder what he would have done if he had to face down the barrel of a gun? Oh well, we will never know. Unless Zimmerman writes a book after he is acquitted and cannot be sued.
TEA
Report Post »RabidPatriot
Posted on April 20, 2012 at 1:33pmIt is actually a good strategy by the prosecutor for a politically charged case. First you have to make sure it gets to trial. Then you over charge the defendant for the crime. He is charged with second degree murder and not the lesser included. So, if they can‘t prove murder the jury can’t go with manslaughter at decision time. So it is all or nothing. If Zimmerman can prove self defense then he will just go free.
Report Post »JohnnyMidknight
Posted on April 20, 2012 at 1:37pm@ JRook
“Given who approached who, and who had the deadly weapon it would be the victim who should claim stand your ground.”
That is not 100% true, and requires a lot of assumption on your part… I admit that Zimmerman should not have followed him, but how the scene went down is pretty much unknown at this point. Nor did Zimmerman’s statements (or eye witnesses) that the gun in Zimmerman’s hands when he followed are originally talked to Trayvon.
Under your point, the girl is responsible of a rape because she flittered with a guy, but said no to sex; or walked in a bad neighborhood dressed like a prostitute. She approached him and raised expectation. However, the truth remains that we are 100% responsible for others’ actions. Zimmerman has a right to approach someone in his neighborhood (even if asked not to by the police) to ask why they were there. Trayvon could have been civil, or may not have been. What we do know based on current statements is that Zimmerman was most likely being beaten and pulled his gun and shot his attacker.
I mean, if you hear someone in your basement, do you have to stay in your living room and wait for them to come to you to shoot them?
Report Post »Doctor Nordo
Posted on April 20, 2012 at 1:43pmJROOK
Funny that you accuse others of starting with a conclusion and constructing a story to fit it when there is absolutely no proof (at least available to the general public) that shows that Zimmerman was the one who initiated the confrontation.
Report Post »Clive
Posted on April 20, 2012 at 2:24pmif there was a strange man following you around with a gun, a man who clearly was not a police officer, you would fight for your life too. so yeah, he beat his skull up. It doesn’t change the fact that he followed around an unarmed kid and killed him, despite being told not do that. I hope he rots in prison. The jury will find that it wasn’t self defense, because he was the original aggressor.
Report Post »wdittgasn
Posted on April 20, 2012 at 2:40pmWhy wait till now to release the photo??…….Could it be that the distraction this case caused was starting to wane and needed to be refueled so as to cause maximum distraction to real issues??
Report Post »wdittgasn
Posted on April 20, 2012 at 2:48pmMONICNE:: Just imagine what would happen in a Burger King if blacks were all armed and there order came out wrong.
Report Post »johnrowlinson.blogspot.com
Posted on April 20, 2012 at 2:50pmTEXASHUNTER: Who’s wife is black? Are you saying Zimmerman’s wife is black? Why do people make claims and not post a way to verify any source?
Report Post »rangerp
Posted on April 20, 2012 at 3:05pmMONCINE
so where is concealed carry mandatory? You are slipping
the Smith 625 requires moon clips, thus making it not so good for a carry gun. .45 ACP, 9mm, . 40 cal are rimless cartridges, thus great for magazine fed autos, but not good for revolver. if you just place the cartridge in the cylinder, it has nothing to hold it, and falls out the other side. Thus the reason .44 mag, .357 mag, .38 are all popular revolver cartridges (they have a rim).
I told you, you need to hang out on some gun blogs and stuy. If you are gong to be a poser, and try to make people think you are a real conservative, you can not sound ignorant and stupid when you speak on these issuse. It mike work on the huffpo, but not here. Some of us see through fake real quick.
Keep it real toots, and try harder next time.
MONICNE
Posted on April 20, 2012 at 3:06pmIf Burger King staff thought everyone was armed (as we all should be, all the time, everywhere) that order would be cheerfully prepared “first time right!” LOL
TEA
Report Post »AvengerK
Posted on April 20, 2012 at 3:07pmJROOK..who assaulted who champ?
Report Post »rangerp
Posted on April 20, 2012 at 3:09pmMONCINE
“and truly I wonder what he would have done if he had to face down the barrel of a gun?”
Join the NRA, and you will get a monthly magazine (choice between the American Rifleman, or American Hunter). Each month they have a one to two page article called the Armed Citizen. It is just newspaper articles from around the county where armed citizens use a firearm to stop a crime. Month after month, we NRA members read stories of law abiding citizens that find themselves looking down the barrel of a criminal’s gun, and are able to use a firearm to dispatch these thugs.
Keep it real toots
Report Post »AvengerK
Posted on April 20, 2012 at 3:12pmMONACNE…answer a question for me sweetie, never mind your smart arsey quips about pistols. How do you do this? How do you have the face to show up here and pretend to be above the posters here-as evidenced by your witless scribblings you call posts- when you’ve benn exposed as a weirdo lefty with a penchant for creating multiple screennames for him/herself? No really…a normal individual would be shamed out of the place but you keep returning like a bad case of flatulence. What purpose do your multiple screennames serve darling? What do you accomplish by posting as MONACNE or SLEAZY HIPPO or any other number of alias you have created for yourself here? Is it rooted in cowardice? Duplicity? Some kind of mental disorder? Your keepers at Media Matters told you to do it perhaps? Your creepiness is self apparent but I want to understand what compells you to post under multiple names here. Please tell me tulip.
Report Post »MONICNE
Posted on April 20, 2012 at 3:29pmTo each of us our own! LOL
Some of us just cannot abide that our inflated opinions (about practically everything) are not laws to force upon the nation! LOL
Sometimes a cigar is just a cigar!
TEA
Report Post »karmon7
Posted on April 20, 2012 at 3:35pmWhere did this photo come from and who was the “photographer” that took it, and why does ABC have it, and what took so long to produce it? Is it now in evidence or does ABC claim some right to it? The press is just as lazy as it can be even when it is trying to foment a race war! Anyone who still believes that Snufflufugus is a real reporter and not a democrat infiltrator probably owns some property in the Everglades.
Report Post »DrSique
Posted on April 20, 2012 at 3:36pmAnd, when the jury finds Zimmerman not guilty, what will become of the Black Panthers and the rest of the rabble rousers? Will they accept justice or will there be more blood in the streets? Let me answer that for you. After the Rodney King verdict, violence was rampant and I believe that history will repeat itself here. I would imagine that gun shops in Florida will be doing well for a while.
Report Post »RiverMz
Posted on April 20, 2012 at 3:40pmThe wounds are very tiny. The scalp bleeds profusely because there are so many blood vessels in it. Zimmerman’s wounds could not have been serious. No one in charge, at the crime scene, were concerned about them. The investigators in charge cancelled the ambulance ordered for Zimmerman, they weren’t concerned about him having a concussion, and they would definitely been concerned about a concussion, and not transported him to the jail, if they truly believed his head had been banged on the cement.
If Zimmerman had had serious injuries at the crime scene, everyone involved would have been flaunting those injuries front and center, to back their decision not to file charges that night. Remember he was supposed to have a broken nose. No signs of injury to his nose and no black eyes that come with a broken nose either.
Keep in mind if Zimmerman did obtain injuries the night he murdered Martin, he would not have gotten any injuries had he stayed in his SUV and stopped stalking Martin when the 911 operator told him not to follow Martin. Had Zimmerman left it to the Police to handle, once he knew they were on there way, he wouldn’t have been in an altercation with Martin and he would not have injuries (he claims he received from Martin) and for sure a 17 year old kid would not be dead.
Report Post »Teaparty-grammy
Posted on April 20, 2012 at 3:48pm@texas beta
Oh, look – it’s an eyewitness! At least it talks like it was there and saw everything that happened. Oh, it wasn’t there? It is just repeating what it has heard on the news from the Lamestream Media and the likes of Al Sharpton, whose agenda is apparently to start a race war so that ODUMBER can declare martial law and call off an election he will likely lose? That’s what I thought . . .
Report Post »AvengerK
Posted on April 20, 2012 at 3:49pmCome on MONACNE..for once in your miserable existence have some courage. Tell me why you need so many screennames here darling? Is it a method of deception? If so..why do you need to deceive anyone if you believe you’re right? Is it some kind of childish prank your befuddled lefty mind conjured up where you post some juvenile “TEA” quip in your tediously predictable “drive by” manner, then after you click the reply button you have a little snicker to yourself/selves (acknowledging your numerous other personalities here)? Just tell me darling…why all the screennames? I mean, you’re not fooling anyone, most of the the posters here know you have more than one screenname here so there’s not much point perpetuating your act. You’re the only one that seems to be believing your act. Any normal person would admit it after they’ve been caught..but you have this unsettling compulsion to continue. Grow a pair or a backbone (because you post as both a male and a female…creepy) and tell me why you need so many screennames. By all means…you can let yourself go and put “TEA” all you want to at the end of your answer to me if you like..but have the guts to answer me darling.
Report Post »Chevalier
Posted on April 20, 2012 at 3:52pm@ monicne
“. . .Stands up well to the Zimmerman 9mm like a cougar to a bobcat.. .” You obviously know little about weapons and less about bobcats. . .cougars do not stand up well against bobcats. . .though they are much smaller, bobcats fight with such ferocity, cougars would rather run away than fight them. . .
Report Post »Teaparty-grammy
Posted on April 20, 2012 at 3:53pm@ Monicne, who posted:
“When George apologized, (finally) he claimed he did not know it was a teenager he was killing. I do not understand why that should matter if you are scared for your life…and truly I wonder what he would have done if he had to face down the barrel of a gun? Oh well, we will never know. Unless Zimmerman writes a book after he is acquitted and cannot be sued”
Ah, Monicne, Encinom, you ignorant, semi-literate little Troll, you–where is it written that somebody acquitted on criminal charges cannot be sued in Civil Court? See Simpson, OJ, who was acquitted in criminal court, and promptly had the BEJESUS sued out of him by his victim’s family? Moreover, the family WON the suit, thereby gaining justice in a civil court that was denied them by an all-black jury who was not about to convice Simpson on any charge, no matter what he did. Because hey, they were only picking on Simpson because he was black, right?
Report Post »AvengerK
Posted on April 20, 2012 at 4:04pmMONACNE…I didn’t ask for a brush off darling. I asked for an answer to what is a straightforward question. Why do you feel you have to employ so many screennames for yourself here?
Report Post »You‘ve been caught out so it’s no point perpetuating your act is it? Any normal person would agree with that. I just want an insight into that befuddled lefty mind of yours. What compels someone like you- who believes they’re so much better than conservatives- to create more than one personality for themselves here? Isnt’ one name enough for you diddums? Isn’t one name sufficient to express your opinion? Why do you feel you need so many screennames? It’s clear that in your creepy little mind that you feel it serves some purpose for you..so what is it? You’ve been caught out so whatever effectiveness you feel that tactic had is long gone for you. No one takes you seriously. RANGERP is merely mocking you here now (“toots” may be the give way for you sweetie). So why do you do it? Don‘t you know when you’re defeated darling? Do you have to be told? Heck..you defeated yourself by forgeting who you were posting as and put your puerile “TEA” tag line at the end of one of your other personality’s posts. Your compulsion was so overwhelming that you couldn’t stop yourself from doing it. Come on MONACNE…enough of your deflecting(something you do a lot of), “let them drop” and tell me why you need more than one screenname here.
AvengerK
Posted on April 20, 2012 at 4:07pmRIVERMZ…I’ll ask you what JROOK refuses to answer. who attacked who?
Report Post »johnjamison
Posted on April 20, 2012 at 4:15pmJOHNROWLINGSON wrote
TEXASHUNTER: Who’s wife is black? Are you saying Zimmerman’s wife is black? Why do people make claims and not post a way to verify any source?
Don’t know John maybe they work for the big three main stream media outlets who all made claims and falsified evidence to convict Zimmerman in the court of public oppinion.
Report Post »mtcountrygrl
Posted on April 20, 2012 at 4:16pmCan we please deal with facts and law folks. First the “racial profiling”, we do not know the motivation for Zimmerman following Travon, but I will even give the race baters this one, say he was profiling, it is not a crime. Following someone in your car is not a crime (unless they have a restraining order). Getting out of your car to follow or to question someone on a public street after a 911 operator tells you not to, is not a crime. 911 operators are not police officers or anyone with any authority. When did a crime first happen, when the first punch was thrown! If Zimmerman threw the first punch he is guilty of manslaugher. If he did not, I am sorry folks but this is self defense. Those are the facts and the law. If someone attacks you, you can use whatever force is needed in defense of your person in most states. Now if Travon beat him up and he got up went to his car and got the gun and shot him, that is a crime. But if he had it on him and used it to stop an assult against his person (which he did not start) then this is self defense.
Report Post »mtcountrygrl
Posted on April 20, 2012 at 4:48pmThis whole case hinges on who threw the first punch. Nothing else matters in a court of law. It is either manslaughter or self defense based on which part first made PHYSICAL contact. Either way the prosecution is WAY over-reaching with a murder charge. For 1st degree murder you need pre-meditaion. For 2nd degree murder you need intent to kill or killed in the commission of another crime. I don’t see any of those elements here.
Report Post »wdittgasn
Posted on April 20, 2012 at 4:54pmMONICNE:: Touche,…on the BK deal…LOL
Report Post »MistyBlueAngel
Posted on April 20, 2012 at 5:24pm@ Rivermz, I don’t know what you do for a living, but I am in the healthcare profession, and though you are right about headwounds bleeding profusely, you are absolutely DEAD wrong about that being evidence that this man didn’t have a serious head injury. Have you ever heard of a closed head TMI? That’s medical speak for a concussion without an open skull fracture. It can, and does happen all the time. It is also possible for someone to have sustained one of these injuries without losing conciousness, or seeming to have been seriously injured over time. Why do you think they make such a big fuss over boxers and football players banging their heads? Unless a person gets a full medical exam complete with Xrays, cat-scans, and a doctor to thoroughly check them out, there is no way to know for sure, and even then trained and skilled medical professionals sometimes miss things. I know, it happens all the time. As to the “officials” cancelling the ambulance, it was Zimmerman himself who refused it, which is his legal right, but in no way does that prove that he wasn’t hurt, or that his nose wasn’t broken. I say we should wait for the trial before we start talking a bunch of hypothesis.
Report Post »rangerp
Posted on April 20, 2012 at 5:50pmMoncine
“Sometimes a cigar is just a cigar!”
and somtimes, a fake poser liberal is just a fake poser liberal.
Report Post »RepubliCorp
Posted on April 20, 2012 at 5:55pmWEST COAST PATRIOT time to slither back to the demorat party. Kucinich could use some help
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tctommy1964
Posted on April 20, 2012 at 6:20pmWhat Hase Happened to personal responsibility. Martin is dead Becouse Zimmerman was caring a gun and he zimmerman decided to follow a kid and put himself in a situation in wich he felt he needed to shoot an unarmed kid.this hole thing winds down to the choices zimmerman made. if he did not have a gun he would have stayed in he car called the police and waited for them but thats not what happened.and what was martin doing he was walking home being followed by an adult so he felt he needed to defend himself does that mean he is at fault becouse he decided to confront a stranger who was following him. and who cares about his history he martin was doing nothing ilegal he was walking home.
Report Post »The-Monk
Posted on April 20, 2012 at 7:04pmThat’s one bloody white guy; I mean Hispanic, I mean 1/2 Jew 1/2 Puruvian, I mean white Hispanic, I mean…. does this have anything to do with race?
Report Post »(end sarcasm)
yiska8
Posted on April 20, 2012 at 9:12pm@mtcountrygirl
I agree. It comes down to who swung first. The charges levied against Zimmerman are held up only by political correctness and fear of all out race riots in Sanford. He should be charged with something, but at worst it should be manslaughter and that is with strong evidence. I wonder, if this was a gated community, where the hell were all the cameras? Nothing captured on video. Not even an iPhone? Nothing uploaded to Youtube in this age of instant Facebooking? We’ll probably never know what really happened.
@Monicne
Zimmerman will probably be sued in a civil court. Same as OJ. And I don‘t think the Goldman’s or the Browns ever saw the entire amount ordered to be paid. I don’t know Florida law, but I think it’s somewhat similar to the Castle Doctrine in Texas. If you shoot someone in self-defense on your private property you cannot be sued in civil court, even if you are charged criminally. If you shoot in self-defense on the public street in front of your house, even if you are cleared criminally,you may still be sued in civil court. Know it people,for your own protection.
“The law is some tricky *hit.” – “Thema and Louise”
Report Post »PoliticiansRCrooks
Posted on April 20, 2012 at 10:24pmDrop it already! This isn’t NEWS!. Stuff like this happens every day. Why are they showing me a wound of his head? Am I the lawyer? Am I the attorney? Am I the Judge or the Jury?? NO!
Hell if all I know, the man wounded his head on purpose. How do we know?? Let the investigation handle it on it’s own. We bigger issues to deal with in our Country. They use this story to cover up the rest of the dirt on America.
Report Post »Grey Eagle
Posted on April 20, 2012 at 10:38pmZimmerman was also treated for a broken nose. He saw paramedics at the scene.. They cleaned him up. ABC seriously edited the pictures deliberately.
Report Post »jzs
Posted on April 20, 2012 at 10:46pmLooks to me like Trayvon, after being followed by some guy who, for all he knew, was out to rob him, stood his ground. Only he didn’t have a gun.
Trayvon had a right to be walking where he was, he had committed no crime except except by looking black and scary to some guy. He was armed only with Skittles. And when some older guy followed him and made him afraid for his life, he stood his ground, not waiting to get attacked first.
Sorry Trayvon, you can only stand your ground in Florida if you have a gun. If you don’t have a gun, you get dead by a cop wanna-be. RIP.
Yeah these “kill at will” laws are great. You can chase someone and then when they turn and fight, you can legally murder them. Nice.
Report Post »Cosmos102
Posted on April 21, 2012 at 12:04amSomebody explain how the Left is using this case against the GOP. Zimnernan is no more white than Obama, and he looks more Hispanic than caucasion. He’s a registered Democrat. Somebody tell the New Black Panther Party, wouldya?
Report Post »The-Monk
Posted on April 21, 2012 at 12:11am@jzs
Report Post »Time for your daily “you’re an a55h0le” reply…. now go to bed. Don’t make me call your momma!
mauijonny
Posted on April 21, 2012 at 12:43amYes, MON, if blacks, especially black youth, are under constant attack by whites & white-Hispanics, they should absolutely be allowed to carry a firearm – legally…In fact there’s a great book about that very subject. It’s called “Negroes with Guns”: First published in 1962, Negroes with Guns is the story of a southern black community’s struggle to arm itself in self-defense against the Ku Klux Klan [that would be the Southern Democrats] and other racist groups…
Report Post »thinknotrepeat
Posted on April 21, 2012 at 8:03amI have a serious question, if american media is 91% run by jewws why do you people call it the “ liberal media” ? of course your going to see a multicultural aganda and antichristian agenda BUT the msm is 100 percent pro war, does being pro war sound liberal to you? let me correct that the media is pro war only when its in jewwish/ israeli interests like any of israels percieved enemies, also why do you blame ” secular progressives for the war on christmas when every plantiff in every instance when christianity was banned from schools,christmas plays,nativity scenes,crosses on public squares,banning of christmas trees in public ect was ajeww who claimed to be offended by it and demanded separation of church and state,and the 5 major ruling that passed legislation minimizing our ability to worship christ and keep it part of our culture was pushed by the anti defamation league. are you aware of these facts? cant you google? are you too cowardly too call out the enemy?
Report Post »thinknotrepeat
Posted on April 21, 2012 at 8:24amwhen is gb going to expose aipac, our real enemy? hes aware of the death grip it has on our government, we watch our candidates embarrass our great country by bowing and scraping for aipac approval pledgeing their undying loyalty to israel yet its never talked about, obviously gb’s carreer is more important than america, if i didnt know better id say hes delibeately manipulating his followers to hate muslims and any one who stands up to aipac and puts america first he brands antisemitic basically hes doing everything that benefits a certain ethnic tribe, of course this could only work with americas most undereducated class,I mean c’mon who would believe this guy is actually exposing all these hidden threats and pending destruction of america by “a socialist partnership with radical islam” and other batspit crazy rantings and never ever mention the one thing that can be proven immediately and is destroying us from inside.? oh thats right repubs are that stupid, letting you people vote is the reason our government can be infiltrated and corruptetd in an unimaginably aggregious way, you people ranting about phonybmuslim caliphates and socialism lunacy ect provide cover for our real enemy because you make a cohesive homogenious defense of our christian nation impossible because you are easily manipulated by the enemy and fervently parrot the enemies goals ie: we must destroy muslims and “ israel is our greatest ally” you people actually side with aipac and the prime minis
Report Post »Viper1
Posted on April 21, 2012 at 8:54am@RANGERP
Report Post »I owned a S&W 40cal and was just looking at a 9mm. They make good pistols but they threw away the safety. That part I don’t like so I got rid of mine for a EAA 9mm. That is European American Arms, just in case you hadn’t been to any good forums lately.
I just want to know did George Zimmerman shoot a ten year old? Most of the pictures show a ten or eleven year old child. Last night they finally showed a more recent picture and that was a pretty big teenager. I am a five foot three inch full grown man and this kid might have intimidated me also. I kind of remember being beaten pretty badly by a six foot plus teen when I was in school. I had to kick him in his family jewels just to get him off. That night he came to my house with some kind of a pistol planning to kill me for injuring him. However, this happened in Tyler Texas in 1972. I had been raised up with guns and had a Browning 12gauge laying across my bed because he had threatened that he was going to do exactly what he did that night. I could have been George Zimmerman but I chose to shoot above his head instead of into it. Two days later he killed a man in Dallas Texas with his same pistol. He is still in jail today, I hope. He was seventeen when he murdered another man. That could have been somebodies son. He kind of looked like Travon.
robert
Posted on April 21, 2012 at 9:15amMONICNE
Posted on April 20, 2012 at 3:29pm
To each of us our own! LOL
“Some of us just cannot abide that our inflated opinions (about practically everything) are not laws to force upon the nation! LOL
“Sometimes a cigar is just a cigar!”
Yes , and sometimes a twinkie is just a twinkie.
Report Post »Ruler4You
Posted on April 21, 2012 at 4:22pmGZ has an alleged bloody head? Why wasn’t there an “alleged” murder? Don’t see how “alleged” finds its way into this reporting after months of msm conviction of an untried man.
Report Post »Justice4Lee
Posted on April 26, 2012 at 7:15pmFirst, a short message to all bigots… no matter what your race or ethnicity! Read or have someone read to you 1 John 3:15 of the KJV!!! After you meditate on the WORD, hopefully, you shall realize that you have placed yourself… not just under a death penalty… but, under the ultimate death penalty!!! So, just keep the hate filled rhetoric going!
For those who think Zimmerman is a hero… he is not!
If you have been really keeping up with this story, you know that Detective Chris Serino wanted to charge your hero that night! However, some prosecutor said, no!!?? This individual claimed that there was not enough evidence to “convict” Zimmerman!
Please forgive me, but, to my humble knowledge, I always thought the standard was ‘probable cause!’
To his credit, Det. Serino has chosen NOT to try this case in the… media!!!
As far as knowing ALL facts, what do we ALL know so far? Well, the young man told his father he was going to the store! Guess WHAT??!! Trayvonn did just that and apparently purchased candy and a drink!
Zimmerman claimed that Trayvonn was up to something and apparently he was… he was on his way home! Zimmerman claimed that he was checking out homes or apartments!!?? My most sincere guess is when one goes around peeking into windows… sooner or later, and at that time of evening, another resident[s] should have saw Trayvonn and phoned the police! So, I am sure that the special prosecutor just went on and ignored police data
Report Post »RepubliCorp
Posted on April 20, 2012 at 9:00amThis only proves Zimmerman was vandalizing public property with his head
Report Post »BuzzardSays
Posted on April 20, 2012 at 10:52amNo you are wrong. Trayvon Martin was vandalizing public property with George Zimmerman’s head. Big difference. George apparently objected to Trayvon using his head as a demo hammer.
Report Post »Huguenot Descendant
Posted on April 20, 2012 at 11:04am“Well its so blatantly obvious that he banged his own head on the sidewalk over and over again until he started to bleed, and anyone who believes otherwise is racist.”
Yup that will be the lefts argument now, because George Zimmerman is not only a murderer, but also a man who likes to vandalize public property.
Report Post »Arc
Posted on April 20, 2012 at 11:51am^ 5 point!!!!!!!
Report Post »repup
Posted on April 20, 2012 at 3:34pmZimmerman was tryin to commit suicide by beating his against the sidewalk and when travon stopped him he tried to shoot himself but travon stepped in front of the bullet to save him.
Report Post »dealer@678
Posted on April 20, 2012 at 9:41pmIt proves Zimmerman was on the bottom getting his head slammed on the concrete. Case closed
Report Post »RedinLouisville
Posted on April 20, 2012 at 8:59amShame them jerkwads at ABC didn’t vet Obama as much as they vetted that picture of zimmermans bloody head.
Report Post »Gman42
Posted on April 20, 2012 at 11:54amThey probably were going to vet him until the photo with 666 on the back of Obama’s head surfaced.
Report Post »GoodStuff
Posted on April 20, 2012 at 11:58amWell, there goes the prosecutions entire argument. Acquittal!
Report Post »SimpleTruths
Posted on April 20, 2012 at 2:01pm@GOODSTUFF
Report Post »Another brilliant legal mind at work.
suttonea76
Posted on April 20, 2012 at 8:57amTypical media ending a segment with what Zimmerman did wrong and the fact that he actually broke a law. I feel prefacing this case with the best case scenario garbage is in stark contrast to the law. Since no one has been able to stipulate exactly what law Zimmerman broke in the media just shows they are reaching for scraps to discredit him in other ways. I, like most responsible people, will wait to hear the verdict and the outlined course of events that may have put Zimmerman in a position to either defend himself or show he stalked and murdered this kid. Since I wasn’t there, I know next to nothing and am happy to admit it for now.
For the record, everything Zimmerman has stated has been backed up by multiple sources. What will Sharpton do when he find outs that he chose poorly once again on a case he obviously backed by virtue of race and not justice?
Report Post »barber2
Posted on April 20, 2012 at 9:12amRegarding what Sharpton will do : Twana Brawley and the Duke La crosse players . Sharpton will do nothing nor will the Democrats distance him. Al and Jesse and there new best buds, the NBPP, will just lie in wait …until the his next chance to shuck and jive the media for some other phony Race Card exploitation…
Report Post »Teaparty-grammy
Posted on April 20, 2012 at 4:06pm@SuttonEA76, who posted: “What will Sharpton do when he find outs that he chose poorly once again on a case he obviously backed by virtue of race and not justice?”
When did Al Sharpton, professional race baiter that he is, ever make a decision on ANY other basis, other than race? If he did, I have never seen it! He and Jesse Jackson are nothing more than professional “shakedown” artists — “Give a large donation to my organization, or you are going to have race trouble and discrimination lawsuits out the a$$.”
Both of them have made a very good living out of extortion that would put anybody else in JAIL.
Report Post »Tradman
Posted on April 20, 2012 at 8:57amTHXLL38-
Millions more would be dead also if they listened to Hitler. Think for yourself, you might just save your own life or that of your family one day. Get off the juice. We get it! If Zimmerman would have stayed in his car this wouldnt have happened AT THE TIME IT HAPPENED! However, given the apparent nature of this “kid” poor little ‘Tray-von’, he’d gotten in trouble eventually.
I absolutely cannot blame Zimmerman for following him. However, he should have stayed a safe distance from the little twerp. With that said, DISPATCH has no authority over anyone.
Report Post »THXll38
Posted on April 20, 2012 at 11:30amWait . . . you’re telling me, a libertarian to think for himself? I think, my neo social con loser should be thinking for yourself considering that cons like yourself believe that big government war machines and police should be bowed upon. The freaking kids father lived in the neighborhood; therefore, he had a right to be there. The kid was unarmed, then Zimmerman called to police to due to suspicious behavior. He was told to back off, but didn’t, then got his ass kicked by a 17 year old, and then proceeded to shoot Martin in self defense. Sounds to me that this could have been avoided if Zimmerman actually did what he was supposed to, but instead wanted to be a tough guy. Since this case is far from being over with, I will presume that Zimmerman is innocent until proven guilty; however, I am pretty confident that he will be charged.
Report Post »Eagle_Eye_1970
Posted on April 20, 2012 at 1:11pmBut that is just it…we do not know if he stayed a safe distance or not. He had reported that he lost site of Travon and walked back to his truck, and then Travon approached him and confronted Zimmerman…so this case needs to be vetted through the courts…not in the public square.
Report Post »HowardSternIsABigot
Posted on April 20, 2012 at 8:56amoops– In the article he says he saw gun powder burns on Treyvon hoodie. That is ENORMOUS because it shows he fired during close tussel and did not “track down and execute a helpless tot looking for easter skittles in the bushes.”
Report Post »Gold Coin & Economic News
Posted on April 20, 2012 at 9:05amThis is the kind of stuff that just makes my head explode. Why, why, why does frikin ABC wait until now to put out this image when they probably had access to it right from the start. This is CRAP!
Report Post »http://www.isthatbaloney.com/media-manipulation-of-the-trayvon-martin-case/
progressiveslayer
Posted on April 20, 2012 at 9:11amGOLD COIN & ECONOMIC NEWS Because the msm are hoping for a race war,that‘s why the pic of the smiling little boy was used to give the appearance of a man murdering a child when that wasn’t the case.
Report Post »The msm are about as trustworthy as politicians,both groups are rotten to the core.
Gonzo
Posted on April 20, 2012 at 9:15amExcellent point.
Report Post »JohnnyMidknight
Posted on April 20, 2012 at 9:25amDoes anyone think that the media demonizes suspect parties (sometimes falsely) and tries the case on national TV in order to create scenes of angry mobs (AKA Casey Anthony, George Zimmerman, Richard Jewell, JonBenét Ramsey’s parents, etc.)? It then leads to the illusion that we need a strong government with more laws to protect our fragile system? Then the media takes the “moral” high road in order to state that we need to let the Government try the case… But the truth is that they need to be tried by a jury of their peers… IE Citizens like us. I have a strange feeling they are waiting for a case to blow so out of portion that they will create a dialogue that juries and the citizens‘ opinion shouldn’t even matter and push for judges and government officials to pass judgement.
Report Post »rangerp
Posted on April 20, 2012 at 9:32amNews is business, nothing more, nothing less. For a news channel to be successful, is more about an audience than it is about accurate news. Sensationalism means money. If you have the “breaking news”, then you have the people watching, you have people seeing the advertising, thus you get more advertising dollars.
Libs hate Fox news, and would like to shut it down. Fox found an audience, and it is a very lucrative business. if Fox got taken off the air, it would leave a void for “conservative and balanced news”, and someone wanting to make the mega millions would start a news channel that spoke to the conservative audience.
There could be a vetted news source that is rock solid accurate in everything that it reported, but if it does not have a healthy audience that produces money for advertisers, it would flop.
Many folks in this country lean far to the left. The public schools, the MTV, the MSM have pushed them left. Even though stats will show that black on white crime is a real problems, it is more in vogue on the left to have sensational stories of evil racist white folks, picking on the poor black folks (even though the nation elected a black president). Racism in itself is a very lucrative business. Jessie and Al have became millionaires by selling racism tickets.
The Martin/ Zimmerman story was a sure way to gin up an audience, and ABC and other news sources saw a way to fire up an audience. It is all a business.
Report Post »MCDAVE
Posted on April 20, 2012 at 9:33amthis whole think has been a giant episode of media malpractice…ABC is doing the one step back routine in the event that Zimmerman is found innocent by reason of self defense .the misconduct by the news media is being driven by an underlying communist agenda..has nothing to do with ethical conduct or truthful reporting.
Report Post »rangerp
Posted on April 20, 2012 at 9:38amI will use a foot ball analogy, and being I lived in the great state of Alabama for so long, I will use Alabama Football. In the state of Alabama, you are either an Auburn or a Alabama fan, no middle ground, and folks are serious about their allegiance to their team.
ABC is basically the dude who sells the T- Shirts at the game. He makes up T-shirts for Auburn, and he makes them for Alabama. He is not as concerned with who wins, as just having the right shirt, to make the most money. He is able to appeal to both sides, and make money off both camps.
ABC can appeal to the left, when they went of half cocked on the racism stories of a white man, stalking and gunning down the poor little 12 year old black kid with skittles.
Now they appeal to the right, in showing that Zimmerman was a good citizen, it was he who got attacked, and shot in self defense.
News is business, and ABC is making money on both sides. Truth is not near as important as selling a story.
Report Post »Coffeehead
Posted on April 20, 2012 at 9:43amWell said. Listen to the “black” station in Chicago sometime if you want to hear racism. REally clear.
Report Post »Bluebonnet
Posted on April 20, 2012 at 9:58amSo, it comes out “the worm has turned.” Now that idiot woman with matching coyboy hats in Florida can stop her ranting, convicting a man who may very well have been defending himself from a hoodlum. That woman is an embarrassment to us as Americans.
Report Post »Isn’t this like the MSM hiding photos of a very bloody head to encourage racism.. These news reporters will do anything. Dirty dogs, no wonder I don’t watch most of these main stream news programs. Hate that liar Martin Bashir and the way he sets people up. He did a dirty trick on Michael Jackson (whom I don’t like anyway, but……..)
VoteBushIn12
Posted on April 20, 2012 at 10:06am@Cofeehead
“Well said. Listen to the “black” station in Chicago sometime if you want to hear racism. REally clear.”
More like listen to you referring to a station as “the black station” if you want to hear REAL racism.
Like seriously… there is no way you said that with a straight face.
Report Post »SpankDaMonkey
Posted on April 20, 2012 at 10:09am.
If this guy get’s a fare trial, I’ll vote for Obama……..
Ok I made the vote for Obama part up. But still…………….
Report Post »Atilla
Posted on April 20, 2012 at 10:13amGun powder residue viewed at night on a hoodie is a practical impossibility to dfferentiate from dirt and a multitude of other sbstances. A stupid statement on it’s face.
Report Post »G-WHIZ
Posted on April 20, 2012 at 10:16amTravon wasNOT a”widdle-kid” when he had his head and upper-body covered completely by his “hoodie”. He was approx-6feet-tall…not a 4ft todler of 7urs-old! Why sooooo long for the Non-nuze-channels to show a pix which was out just before he was “cleaned-up-for-the-progressive/commie-agenda?? Were they HOPEING for a large, country-wide- riot, first…and then…”oh, by-the-way, guess-what!…We just happen to have this pix of Zimmie’s- head before it was “cleaned-up!”
Report Post »whatthecrazy
Posted on April 20, 2012 at 10:22am@ coffeehead i see nothing wrong with your comment unlike votebushin12.Facts always p!ss some people off.
Report Post »Unix
Posted on April 20, 2012 at 10:24amWhile this photo does not prove Zimm’s innocence, it does prove he was in a fight. It does backup his allegation that his head was being smashed into the concrete. It was taken three minutes after the shot was fired, and the GPS proves the location to be the same as where the killing took place. Also, gunpowder on the hooded sweatshirt proves the shot was fired at very close range. Then there is the eyewitness who saw Martin on top of Zimm, beating him.
We still do not have any clear idea of what immediately led up to the shooting – THAT will be the crux of the case, and the preponderance of proof is on the prosecution! I don’t think they have a case for MII or even manslaughter, and Zimm will be a free man! That is just my opinion, as a layman.
I rest my case, FREE ZIMM!
Report Post »encinom
Posted on April 20, 2012 at 10:27amHowardSternIsABigot
Report Post »Posted on April 20, 2012 at 8:56am
oops– In the article he says he saw gun powder burns on Treyvon hoodie. That is ENORMOUS because it shows he fired during close tussel and did not “track down and execute a helpless tot looking for easter skittles in the bushes.”
__________________
Does no such thing. Zimmerman left his car, armed and followed his victim. If Trayvon Martin was still alive he could as claim the Castle Defense, Zimmerman stalked this teenager.
Perkins
Posted on April 20, 2012 at 10:28am@ Votebush
Maybe you should do some quick research before commenting (it’s really not that hard)
http://www.insightnews.com/news/5587-chicagos-only-black-owned-talk-radio-station-gives-voice-to-a-complex-people-still-struggling-to-be-heard
There is one station in Chicago owned by African-Americans and they occasionally refer to it as “Chicago’s only black station.”
Grow up already
Report Post »lornaduwn
Posted on April 20, 2012 at 10:30amIt is obvious when you listen to all of the 911 tapes (wikipedia has all 8 of them) that there was a close struggle. The question is; who was the one struggling to live? It does not make sense to me that someone who has a gun would be screaming hysterically for help. Screaming to call the cops or screaming that he has a gun would make sense but that level of hysteria only comes from someone who feels he has no way out. One could argue that Zimmerman felt that way if his head was being banged into the sidewalk. Then the question is do his injuries show that?
Ask yourself if you have ever bumped your head. Did you get a goose egg on your head? If Zimmerman were repeatedly getting his head banged into the sidewalk, I would expect to see a few pretty good sized goose eggs and bruises that would have taken days to go away. Have you ever cut your scalp? Even a small cut on your scalp will bleed profusely as there are so many blood vessels close to the surface. For all we know these small cut were made by Trayvon’s fingernails as he fought for his life or even by the bushes that they were fighting near. We cannot know without knowing all of the facts.
It could that the only racial context is that Zimmerman saw a black guy in a hoodie that he didn’t recognize and perceived his standing in the rain talking to his girlfriend on his unseen headset as a punk scoping out the houses; and that Martin (from Miami) saw a Hispanic with a gun and saw a gang member claimin
Report Post »REALID 239823749828-HIF
Posted on April 20, 2012 at 10:34am@VOTEBUSHIN12
Right, because referring to a radio station who’s audience is almost 100% black as the “black station” is far more racist than saying something like, “White people are potential humans – they haven’t evolved yet”, right?
He put the work black in quotes because the radio station is known colloquially as the station that mostly black people listen to.
I love how you people call conservatives racist when they bring up a fact or a statistic that deals with race. Like it or not, race is a valid metric to use in statistics, and race does make a difference. If you want to have a reasonable discussion on whether that fact is due to genetics, culture, upbringing, or repression, I’ll be happy to indulge you, but stop with the straw-man arguments, ok? It just makes you look stupid.
Report Post »P C BE DAMNED
Posted on April 20, 2012 at 10:41amVotebush12
Report Post »Are you a fool? What a stupid and useless comment. You are old school bull. You are the problem. Useless
teamarcheson
Posted on April 20, 2012 at 10:44amPlease Show More Of Martin’s Picture When He Was 10 Years Old.
When will we see the gated community security camera videos of the assault on Zimmerman by Martin. Have the Obama news media finished altering those videos like they altered the 911 tape and the police station video? Where are those security camera videos?
Report Post »AmazingGrace8
Posted on April 20, 2012 at 10:44am@rangerp
Read your post and would like to add to the racism theme we have been hearing for 4 yrs, money. On national tv the Pres.of the US is saying, “I was not born with a silver-spoon in my mouth”. We can “assume” he is saying work hard & you can succeed in America? At this time it seems odd to use that statement when Romney may be the Rep pick. Good strategy on the part of Pres. Obama because his 3.5 yrs in office has hog-tied the voters/taxpayers. Disturbing to me is that a vote for him means he is the “zoo-keeper” & he is setting all the rules. Disturbing to me congress keeps passing laws to keep us in cages. I use zoo-keeper title because Newt’s SSA is costing “us” $39K a day. Many voters/taxpayers have to work for ONE FULL YEAR to make $40K. The latest news, Dems buyer remorse passing the hlth-care-bill. Phoney jerks..trying to save their seats. Vote & re-elect, we will be in our cages & sent out to work & be locked up & start all over again. USA is going to the dogs-(shhhh) the Pres. eats dog. At least Romney will have us in a cage in the open air, a shield, & traveling with him for the 4 yr ride.LOL
Report Post »jdtanker
Posted on April 20, 2012 at 10:45amTrayvon was 6′2″ and 175lbs. He wasn’t some little 12 year old. Zimmerman is 5′8″. Maybe we should put up 12 year old picks of Zimmerman just to make it fair.
Report Post »P C BE DAMNED
Posted on April 20, 2012 at 10:48amFree Zimmerman, Free Zimmerman, Free Zimmerman, Free ………………….
Report Post »TexasHunter
Posted on April 20, 2012 at 10:51amENCINOM Is your little feelings hurt that once again you were wrong and all that stupid blabbering from your two celled membrane came crumbling down again? Pleas ENCINOM tell us again how you would try to talk to a thief breaking in your house. PLEASE. Today is Friday and you never let me down for a chuckle.
Report Post »lornaduwn
Posted on April 20, 2012 at 10:59amUnix:
There are conflicting reports of who was on top. The one that bothers me is the 911 call that says the guy on top was wearing a “white T-shirt”. Martin had a hoodie on. Zimmerman was wearing a light gray T-shirt (looks white in the dark). This begs the question: Did Zimmerman have his jacket on at the time of the incident? If this witness did not see a red jacket then why was it with him for him to put it on afterwards and why did he take it off. Was he expecting a fight? And why is there another witness that said the guy with the red “sweater” was on the bottom.
There are too many twists and turns in this case for ANYONE to know what really happened until it all comes out in court.
Report Post »robert
Posted on April 20, 2012 at 11:06amVoteBushIn12
Posted on April 20, 2012 at 10:06am
@Cofeehead
“Well said. Listen to the “black” station in Chicago sometime if you want to hear racism. REally clear.”
“More like listen to you referring to a station as “the black station” if you want to hear REAL racism.”
And if it is hate anyone wants to hear all they have to do is read your posts.
You can’t discuss issues, because you’ll be slammed without being able to offer substantive rebuttal, so you resort to nothing but personal attacks.
Black racism is alive and well and it is shown in abundance, which is so prevalent no examples are really necessary. Your personal slurs are all you have left to counter with, which reduces the board to reciprocate.
You’re an evil influence here that cares not one white about racism. You bring it up, because you feel perpetuating white intimidation will help you achieve your inclusion in an oddball society which will never come about.
You’ll soon know the full extent of your errors very shortly.
Report Post »robert
Posted on April 20, 2012 at 11:13amencinom
Posted on April 20, 2012 at 10:27am
” Zimmerman left his car, armed and followed his victim. If Trayvon Martin was still alive he could as claim the Castle Defense, Zimmerman stalked this teenager.”
Heh, heh, heh. How is promoting lies helping with your twinkie utopia?
The tide is turning.
Report Post »AvengerK
Posted on April 20, 2012 at 11:52amYou mean Trayvon Williams..sorry, I was quoting Van Jones…Trayvon Martin wasn’t “hunted down like a rabid dog”?
Report Post »AxelPhantom
Posted on April 20, 2012 at 12:07pmLorna,
I wouldn’t use goose-eggs or bruising as “proof” to convict a man.
People’s bodies respond differently to bumps. If I bump my leg on the corner of the coffee table, I bruise big time. On the other hand one of my son’s broke his leg and had some swelling and NO bruising (open walking cast). He split his chin open in a hockey game, blood, but no bruising or swelling should have had 4 stitches but he refused; broke his hand, little general swelling, no goose egg, no bruise…. all even days later. The kid just never bruises or swells.
Another son got “bit” in the head playing football (they were not wearing helmets, waiting for the coach before practice), the trainer sent him home saying he needed stitches, again, no bruising, swelling was not noticable to the naked eye (yes his hair was almost as short as Zimmerman’s, coach’s policy).
You also sound like someone who has bought in to the dictation about guns and gun owners without ever having carried one yourself. Yes, as a gun owner, I would be screaming for help when I know I am surrounded by hundreds of people who can hear me scream, because though I have a gun, I don’t want to ever use leathal force to take a life unless it is my last choice, “help” would be preferable.
People are leaping before looking that has been the problem throughout this entire thing. There will be a trial, whether it will be fair or not will be dependent upon a jury’s ability to refrain from jumpi
Report Post »encinom
Posted on April 20, 2012 at 12:23pmTexasHunter
Posted on April 20, 2012 at 10:51am
ENCINOM Is your little feelings hurt that once again you were wrong and all that stupid blabbering from your two celled membrane came crumbling down again? Pleas ENCINOM tell us again how you would try to talk to a thief breaking in your house. PLEASE. Today is Friday and you never let me down for a chuckle.
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Where was the theif here? the only crime was that Zimmerman beleived himself to be the law. A teenager is dead because of lax gun laws and the NRA.
Report Post »Unix
Posted on April 20, 2012 at 12:27pmYou liberal communist trolls pi$$ me off big time! Did you know Zimm mentored black kids? Yes, he helped these black kids, and you call the race card – YOU ARE worthless, fact ignoring, HYPOCRITES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Report Post »wdittgasn
Posted on April 20, 2012 at 5:26pmGold Coin:: WDITTGASN
Report Post »Posted on April 20, 2012 at 2:40pm
Why wait till now to release the photo??…….Could it be that the distraction this case caused was starting to wane and needed to be refueled so as to cause maximum distraction to real issues??
Xyskalla
Posted on April 20, 2012 at 5:34pm@progressiveslayer
Report Post »Didn’t Charles Manson want to start a race war? Is Charlie running the media?
wdittgasn
Posted on April 20, 2012 at 5:43pmPeople say Free Zimm, and I do not disagree,….. BUT will he ever really be free…..They will still want him dead…….Look at OJ,..The man couldn’t even steal satellite TV without getting Reamed. and where is he now…….Not trying to compare OJ to Zimm, But really FREE????????
Report Post »The-Monk
Posted on April 20, 2012 at 10:32pm@SpankDaMonkey
“If this guy get’s a fare trial…”
Hi Spank,
Report Post »I have a sense that Zimmerman will be either found not guilty or the Judge will dismiss the case.
Obama needs his “bottom up” to rise up quicker than fresh made dough. With all the High Profile status this case is having…. what better way to get Florida‘s and the Nation’s black population to explode than to have Zimmerman walk free… and soon!
BehindBlueEyes
Posted on April 20, 2012 at 8:56amABC is spinning it now. They say had Zimmerman not “profiled” Tayvon this never would have happened.
Report Post »So ABC is implying Zimmerman is guilty and created the confrontation.
More bull crap from the media.
cemerius
Posted on April 20, 2012 at 9:33am@MOOD,
I can just imagine the UPROAR if there were fingerprints to those burglaries tied to that “angel” Trayvon Martin? Wonder how ABC could spin that??? This is the proverbial “media circus” and they are very smooth on how they can manipulate the lemmings!!!
Report Post »BehindBlueEyes
Posted on April 20, 2012 at 10:15am@CEMERIUS
Report Post »The lemmings (aka liberals) are gullible, not too bright, suffer from normalcy bias, have no common sense and wouldn’t recognize the truth if you hit them right between the eyes with it.
moodtd01
Posted on April 20, 2012 at 10:27amThose fingerprints would obviously have had to have been a gubment conspeercy perpetuated by the evil white zionist gubmint that controls all hunkeys/white debils.
Report Post »This is part of the problem in our society. No one trusts anyone anymore. The government has been allowed by We the People to become so big and powerful over the past 70 years give or take, and has been involved in so many “shady” dealings, that no one knows who or what to trust. It doesn’t help that the Left wing media cannot be trusted, nor can Fox News. The press is supposed to be the “whistleblower” to we the people the “watchdogs”.
The truth is that the people have been indoctrinated into the current mindset of either sheeple or paranoia.
People need to get back to the truths put forth in the Bible and also self educate. Don’t let anyone in authority including Glenn Beck tell you what to believe. Find out for yourself. Question with Boldness!
Find out what your kids are learning at school. Teach them what you want them to know. Do not assume they are being taught what you would have them know. I know first hand as I am involved in my childrens’ education. I am also a current college student and a substitute teacher. Sometimes during the boring day of babysitting teenagers I peruse the textbooks. Trust me, find out what they are learning.
Pray to God, thanking him for his many blessings, ask for him to renew them, and pray for a revival in the land through the Holy Spirit.
TheSoundOf Truth
Posted on April 20, 2012 at 12:21pmIf trayvon martin had a hooded sweatshirt on and you couldn’t see his face, then how could someone profile him?
Report Post »Rational Man
Posted on April 20, 2012 at 12:43pmZimmerman’s attorney asked the investigator “how she came to the conclusion that Zimmerman ‘profiled’ Martin”, in the hearing today. She didn’t have an answer, which helps Zimmerman alot! Her answer as to why she stated that Zimmerman chased Martin down was that someone saw two shadows going down the street. Also helping Zimmerman.
Report Post »He will be aquitted……………..
JOE
Posted on April 20, 2012 at 8:56amYOU MEAN “abc” telling truth about something or something real AMAZING……
Report Post »Meyvn
Posted on April 20, 2012 at 9:25amYou mean spinning the truth?
Report Post »CatB
Posted on April 20, 2012 at 10:15amAnd because of all the cr*p coming from Rev Al .Jesse, NBPP and the like .. they want to restrict guns and stand your ground in Florida .. the truth is NOT in their agenda.
Report Post »HowardSternIsABigot
Posted on April 20, 2012 at 8:54amMedia malpractice. Clowns are biggest failures in history of the universe. All the technical wiz bang tools to feret out the truth and video evidence, and they just parot out the Black-white administrations canned accusations, followed by “stand your ground am bad nd gots to go”, even the useless florda AG caved to the mob. Sham e on all of them.
Report Post »CatB
Posted on April 20, 2012 at 10:38amI agree .. and now the Florida Governor (R) looks like he is caving also .. “reviewing” the Stand your Ground Law .. as a person who supported his election he has heard from me regarding that .. anyone wanting to contact him can do so here….Floridians please do and ask your friends and neighbors also … and for others .. it could be your state next.
http://www.flgov.com/contact-gov-scott/email-the-governor/
Report Post »IndyBarber
Posted on April 20, 2012 at 8:50amWhen this guy is found not guilty, there will be burning cars in the streets.
Report Post »omgfolks
Posted on April 20, 2012 at 8:57amI am afraid you are right! Zimmerman is never going to get a fair trial out of this mess, he should never have been charged to begin with.
Report Post »RJJinGadsden
Posted on April 20, 2012 at 8:58amI would believe that will happen in various spots across the nation, and it won’t just be cars.
Report Post »Meyvn
Posted on April 20, 2012 at 9:02amLet it be.
Report Post »chips1
Posted on April 20, 2012 at 10:59amQuite a few Prius’ will be eliminated. If you can’t sell them, burn them.
Report Post »BumperMorgan
Posted on April 20, 2012 at 11:04amYes there will be riots. We all have to do our best to survive.
Report Post »americansfightingforcommonsense
Posted on April 20, 2012 at 8:49amWhat really happened that night? Hopefully we will find out soon.
Report Post »Mike Benton
Posted on April 20, 2012 at 8:49amIf you look at the ABC video the wounds seem to match up…the picture is real.
Report Post »johnjamison
Posted on April 20, 2012 at 8:53amApparently the quote un quote prosecutor has never read the 5th amendment. Let me enlighten her
Report Post »No person shall be held to answer for a capital, or otherwise infamous crime, unless on a presentment or indictment of a Grand Jury. She didn’t not take this case to a grand jury Zimmermen will walk and this is just a dog and pony show that will cost Florida tax payers 10″s OF MILLIONS
And in the end a verdict can‘t stand as Zimmerman’s rights were violated.
Inlightofthings
Posted on April 20, 2012 at 9:30am…and Zimmerman will be rewarded handsomely by the state…
Report Post »THXll38
Posted on April 20, 2012 at 8:48amHe did not listen to dispatch and continued to follow him. This part of the case (following Martin) is a big deal and should not be blinded by new evidence such as a photograph. It almost sounds like Zimmerman was looking for trouble and he found it.
Report Post »mrunner
Posted on April 20, 2012 at 8:54amSo, in your world- if you perceive that someone is following you, it is perfectly acceptable to violently attack that individual, but it is not acceptable to defend yourself if you are being attacked. Got it.
Report Post »dadsrootbeer
Posted on April 20, 2012 at 8:54amAbsolutely no proof that he still followed him.
Report Post »americansfightingforcommonsense
Posted on April 20, 2012 at 8:56amKeep in mind that was not illegal for Zimmerman to follow him. I understand needing to keep an eye on a suspicious person in the area around your home or subdivision until police can arrive to check them out.
Report Post »I have many times followed teenagers that were acting strange and doing something that I considered damaging to our community until police could arrive.
1chancey1
Posted on April 20, 2012 at 8:59amThat may be true but it didn’t give Trayvon the right to attack Zimmerman. He had a phone and could have called 911 himself.
Report Post »kspatriot
Posted on April 20, 2012 at 8:59amThere is ZERO evidence that he continued to follow him. In fact when the dispatcher said, “we don’t need you to do that”, Zimmerman replied, “OK”. He then said, “He ran”. Meaning he no longer even knew where he was. Those are the FACTS!
Report Post »OutofSympathy
Posted on April 20, 2012 at 9:01amTHXll38, You don’t know that. He said he was heading back to his vehicle when the incidnt occured. Doesn’t matter if he was beside his car or 7 miles away, IF he was returning after answering “OK” to the dispatcher then he was returning. Once again someone jumping to conclusions based off of inaccurate, false editing and incomplete evidence.
I hope you never have to go to jail and face anything like this where people automatically find you guilty without the benefit of the doubt… INNOCENT UNTIL PROVEN GUILTY. He has not been proven guilty in a court of law, end of argument.
Report Post »qpwillie
Posted on April 20, 2012 at 9:09amThere had been break-ins in the neighborhood. Zimmerman had called the police. By timeline evidence, Zimmerman walked for a few seconds so he could tell the police which way Martin was going when they arrived. Zimmerman was headed back to his truck when Martin attacked him.
This is the only scenario that fits ALL the known evidence at this time.
Report Post »Gonzo
Posted on April 20, 2012 at 9:12amDispatch technically has no authority anyway.
Report Post »barber2
Posted on April 20, 2012 at 9:16amI thought he was attacked from behind as he walked back to his car … crucially important
Report Post »Sickofthebull2012
Posted on April 20, 2012 at 9:22amTHXLL, He was NEVER ORDERED to stop following him, nor was even TOLD to stop following him. The dispatcher said we don’t need you to do that. You and sooo many other people quite simply do not have enough command over the English language to understand EXACTLY what was said. You interpret and change the words to your liking, and to fit your own agenda. Go back to school and learn the language please!
Report Post »Ishmot2
Posted on April 20, 2012 at 9:33amJust because some one is bashing your head in; is not cause to attack him. If we can learn anything at all from our POS in office, it is; we are to try and talk things out, everyone wants to get along,but some people have it better then others so we should let them come to our gated communities and take what they need! Don’t ya know?
Report Post »Inlightofthings
Posted on April 20, 2012 at 9:38amTHX…you are wrong again…the valid question is this….
Was Zimmernan looking for trouble or was he looking for a problem?
As a neighborhood watch the latter would require some sort of profiling by definition. It seems clear he did not racially profile and doesn’t appear to be a racist.
Report Post »centenium
Posted on April 20, 2012 at 9:50amlooking or not it doesn’t matter. When physical violence took place he didn’t start it. There could have been a much less violent yelling match between them but the 6′2″ football player threw a punch.
And what did Trey learn? Don’t pick fights.
Report Post »Gonzo
Posted on April 20, 2012 at 10:04amCentenium, don’t bring skittles to a gun fight.
Report Post »Inlightofthings
Posted on April 20, 2012 at 10:22amCENT:
Report Post »It appears the case will be about “initiating” pursuit vs SYG at the time of the incident. Cause and effect – and you can bet if this photo is valid…prosecution will focus on the “cause”. They may already know your assessment of “effect” is acceptable under SYG.
bleuze
Posted on April 20, 2012 at 10:35amI never got my question answered – What was Trayvon doing in a gated community which he did not live at with a hood over his head at night?
Report Post »RJJinGadsden
Posted on April 20, 2012 at 11:01amBLEUZE, When Martin was suspended from school his Mom sent him to temporarily stay with his father who was living with his girlfriend inside the gated community.
Report Post »hangthebastids
Posted on April 20, 2012 at 1:36pmRJJinGadsden,
bs. martin did not live in the gated community.
Report Post »he was supposedly using it as a short cut from the store…
RJJinGadsden
Posted on April 20, 2012 at 5:21pmHANGTHEBASTIDS, That was along the lines of what I had originally thought too. But, later I read something else online when I was trying to find out why he was in the gated community. Since then, I have heard a few times that he was temporarily staying there. Reportedly, he was within feet of being at the back door of his father‘s girlfriend’s back door. Of course, this is from media reports so I will not swear to it as the truth…LOL.
Report Post »RJJinGadsden
Posted on April 20, 2012 at 5:33pmOkay, had to get up to go see what the dog was barking at. Somebody was in our long rural drive from the highway looking for old cars. Not here. Anyway, really screwed up the structure of that last post due to the interruption.
Report Post »RiverMz
Posted on April 20, 2012 at 5:36pm@ Mrrunner, so in your world a 17 year old kid has no right to walk to the 7-11 to buy ice tea, skittles and home again, without being murdered because some gun toting thug perceived him to be “suspicious”?
@Bleuze, to answer your question “What was Trayvon doing in a gated community where he did not live at with a hood over his heat at night?” Trayvon was an invited guest by a full time resident of that gated community. In a sense he did live there. He regularly stayed with his father and his fathers girlfriend that lived there.
I’m asking you when did it become a crime to were a hoodie at night in any neighborhood? I’m an old lady and I walk to the store in the evening with my hood on and never once thought that it might be grounds for someone to kill me in cold blood.
Why was Zimmerman carrying a gun? At the neighborhood watch meeting they were told not to carrying a gun when on neighborhood watch. He broke several Neighborhood Watch Rules, the majority on here do not seem at all concerned about that. They also seem all hyped up about losing the right to carry fire arms, but they don’t seem at all concerned about a teenager losing his constitutional right to walk to the store at night to buy ice tea, without being stalked, and murdered.
Report Post »MistyBlueAngel
Posted on April 20, 2012 at 6:18pm@ Rivermz, you must be in amazing shape for an old lady, but then jumping to all of those conclusions is certainly good exercise, along with all of the mental gymnastics in which you engage.
Report Post »Zimmerman was not “stalking” Martin, nor did he continue to follow him after talking to the dispatcher. He has stated he was on his way back to the vehicle, and also reported he had lost sight of Martin. What part of that don’t you get? Martin then jumped him from behind, according to Zimmerman. The injuries Zimmerman suffered are consistant with his story, but if he is not telling the truth, hopefully it comes out at the trial. Until then, you don’t get to be judge, jury and executioner all rolled into one.
altannt
Posted on April 20, 2012 at 8:47amGet ready Fla. This case will and should be thrown out. The nuts will go crazy.
Report Post »GUN UP!
Rightallalong
Posted on April 20, 2012 at 9:13amLets see how this can play out just for fun.
He is acquitted the FRIDAY before the election in November so we can have riots in the cities which will impact voting so we can ‘delay’ the vote indefinately while this gets sorted out … sounds nutty but if someone said the US GIVERnment would be seeling weapons to Mexican drug gangs to blame the Second Amendment most of us would have thought that sounded nutty too…
Report Post »altannt
Posted on April 20, 2012 at 9:30amThese days ANYTHING is possible
Report Post »Gonzo
Posted on April 20, 2012 at 8:45amI wonder if the special prosecutor had any knowledge of these pictures before she charged him? Of course “ABC News had vetted it for accuracy” so it could be bogus.
Report Post »Stoic one
Posted on April 20, 2012 at 9:23amI think the prosecutor followed the letter of the law for political reasons knowing full well that Zimmerman should be exonerated. Thereby quelling the attempts by some to start race riots.
Report Post »Gonzo
Posted on April 20, 2012 at 9:31amI doubt she quelled race riots. She just delayed them.
Report Post »ScreaminEagle
Posted on April 20, 2012 at 8:45amOK lets get the BLAZE trial started maybe we can wrap this up by noon.
Report Post »johnjamison
Posted on April 20, 2012 at 8:56amThe 5th amendment states No person shall be held to answer for a capital, or otherwise infamous crime, unless on a presentment or indictment of a Grand Jury. The prosecutor didn’t take this to a grand jury she unconstitutionally charged him.
Zimmerman’s rights were violated case dismissed.
Report Post »MCDAVE
Posted on April 20, 2012 at 10:30am@john…is there a time frame for this grand jury?..or can they do this later
Report Post »maryflaur
Posted on April 20, 2012 at 5:27pmKnowing the evidence that’s been presented so far, I’m not sure I would find him guilty. I‘m sure we haven’t heard all the evidence yet, not all the witnesses. When are we going to hear from ABC news, or CBS news, or FOX news about the elderly white couple who were attacked in their home by black teenagers? She was raped and murdered and he had to be hospitalized. I’ve forgotten their names. Oh I forgot, they were white. And why don’t we hear from the “Reverends” Jesse Jackson, or Al Sharpton about incidents like this? Do you suppose they are being hypocritical?
Report Post »momrules
Posted on April 20, 2012 at 8:45amZimmerman is innocent. Those who tried him via the media, the media itself, the black hate/race pimps and Obama are the real criminals.
Report Post »Philo Beddoe
Posted on April 20, 2012 at 8:45amZimmerman has a 6′3 black kid slamming his head on the sidewalk and Zimmerman is supposed to just take it?
Report Post »THXll38
Posted on April 20, 2012 at 8:49amThat wouldn’t have happened if he listened to dispatch.
Report Post »Katie822
Posted on April 20, 2012 at 8:51amWhy did Zimmerman follow him when the kid RAN AWAY? Why not just let him run away????? He was advised to NOT follow him.
Don’t get me wrong, I’m just as frustrated as everybody and very very frustrated with sharpton and jackson for making it racial, when it is not racial. But lets be honest, Zimmerman seems like a huge nutcase and is partially to blame.
This picture is a huge deal for the case. Wonder where they go from here, very complicated situation.
Report Post »RJJinGadsden
Posted on April 20, 2012 at 8:55amIt really rips at me how another one of these three letter network news agencies is now back at stirring the pot, just from the other side. If they had just reported the facts on hand at the time instead of fabricating bits and pieces of the story we might not have today’s current mess. As Glenn has pointed out many times, the truth has no agenda.
Report Post »Right turn Clyde.
dadsrootbeer
Posted on April 20, 2012 at 8:58amSo your unproven no evidenced theory that he followed him is a good reason to be attacked by a punk kid. Europe is calling, answer it.
Report Post »Rightallalong
Posted on April 20, 2012 at 9:04amDispatch is not an officer of the law and reardless there is no proof that he continued to follow him. So if Z was walking back to his vehicle and Tray attacked him – would you accept that is was self-defense? You are just doing the Saul Alinsky …
Report Post »Katie822
Posted on April 20, 2012 at 9:17amListening to 911 call again.
Z: “There’s a suspicious guy……. Looks like he’s up to no good, it’s raining……”
Z: “He was just staring and now he’s staring at me.“ ”Now he’s coming towards me.”
Dis: “How old would you say he is?”
Z: “Something’s wrong with him, he’s coming to check me out. He has something in his hands.”
D: “Let me know if he does something else.”
Z: “He’s down towards the back entrance.”
D: “Are you following him?”
Z: “Yep.”
D: “We don’t need you to do that.”
Z: “He ran.”
So I guess we don’t know if he continued to follow or not and how far. But he was not at his original location as he ends with: “Would you have them call me and I‘ll let them know where I’m at?”
Report Post »Katie822
Posted on April 20, 2012 at 9:24amListened to 911 call again.
It is unclear if he CONTINUED to follow or not, but is clear that he started to follow on foot and was told not to.
Unclear as to how long or how far he followed but Z does say, “he ran”.
Z was also not at his original location because he ends with, “Well will they call me so I can tell them where I am?”
So again, we don’t know if he continued to follow and what transpired after that.
But for me personally, if I saw a sketchy person walking around holding something I would not follow him/her by foot in the rain, even for 5 mins.
Report Post »Kerstile
Posted on April 20, 2012 at 10:14am@TXH, it was NOT DISPATCH. It was a 911 operator who no citizen has a duty to obey. 911 operators are trained to NOT give “orders” because of police liability. 911 operators use purposefully vague language to avoid the PD getting sued. A 911 operator’s SUGGESTION is NOT A LAWFUL POLICE ORDER. You do not have to obey a non-order.
There are neighborhood watch street signs all around my neighborhood. They state, “WARNING. COMMUNITY WATCH”. Now, who is that “warning” directed at?
To say that community watch members should not do this or that or be armed especially IN THEIR OWN COMMUNITY THAT HAS HAD CRIME PROBLEMS is one of the most preposterous things I have ever heard!
Why am I arguing with children….. GROW UP!!!
Report Post »MistyBlueAngel
Posted on April 20, 2012 at 6:07pmI have one question for the folks at ABC, and anyone else accusing Zimmerman of “profiling” Martin. How does a private citizen “profile” anyone? If he was doing neighborhood watch, then his job was to report ANYONE who looked suspicious, and I’m sorry, anyone strolling around peeping in peoples’ windows, and walking between houses on a rainy night would definitely raise my suspicions as well. He wasn’t a policeman, so how was he “profiling”?
Report Post »Ishmot2
Posted on April 20, 2012 at 7:40pmTHXLL38
Posted on April 20, 2012 at 8:49am
That wouldn’t have happened if he listened to dispatch.
How do you know he didn’t listen to dispatch? It sounded to me as if he did, when he answered, OK. Then the thug followed him, and strated a fight because he thought he could get his wallet, after all Zimmerman was walking away like some kind of ***** night watchman. This may or may not be the way it went; but you don’t know so would you please quit trying to fuel the fire and STFU.
Report Post »Ishmot2
Posted on April 20, 2012 at 7:50pmStarted a Zimmerman watch in my neighborhood, just because I know things are going to get worse, much worse, before it gets better. I want the people in our neighborhood to feel a little safer, after all fifty or sixty eyes are better then none! In my Zimmerman watch club we just ask that people watch out for others, and report and stop if necessary all those trying to murder, steal, rape and pillage in our neighborhood!
Report Post »RiverMz
Posted on April 20, 2012 at 7:59pm@ Mistyblueangle, WOW, and you accuse me of “jumping to conclusions” and “mental gymnastics” and then you have the nerve to write “I’m sorry, anyone strolling around peeping in peoples’ windows and walking between houses, on a rainy night would definitely raise my suspicions as well.”
How in the world do you now have the dead VICTIM strolling between houses and peeping in windows? If you watch the video of where this crime happened you would clearly see no one can walk between the houses. They are long rows of connected condominiums. you can not walk between them. Martin was walking down the long SIDEWALK that has lawn on each side of it. He was a short distance from his Dad’s home, where he was staying when he was killed. Peeping in windows? What proof do you have of that. We have proof from phone transcripts and recordings that he was on the phone the entire walk. Why would a peeping tom be talking on the phone and take a chance of being heard? He had skittles, an ice tea and his phone, which he was talking on, on him, why is that suspicious? Why is walking home from the store suspicious?
Why have you condemned a dead 17 year old kid to being a peeping tom, wandering between houses, without one ounce of evidence to that? And the dead kid can not defend himself? Yet you quote the killer’s words as absolute truth? You should listen to the tapes again. You are transposing what Zimmerman said to the 911 operator and what he told
Report Post »Jenny Lind
Posted on April 20, 2012 at 8:44amIf this is accurate what the heck is going on charging him with murder?
Report Post »berlich
Posted on April 20, 2012 at 8:51amProsecution by politics.
Report Post »Watchingtheweasels
Posted on April 20, 2012 at 8:51amThe howling crowd needs someone to crucify.
Report Post »RepubliCorp
Posted on April 20, 2012 at 8:54amIn two words…..Racism- appeasement
Report Post »Gonzo
Posted on April 20, 2012 at 8:56amGood question.
Report Post »dadsrootbeer
Posted on April 20, 2012 at 9:01amCause the victim was black that’s why. Anybody notice that Holder and the DOJ got involved. Hum, where were they when the black panthers were in front of the Philadelphia voting location with clubs yelling at people. Oh thats right, the victims were white and the criminals were black. How about that for justice from our top legal agency.
Report Post »MCDAVE
Posted on April 20, 2012 at 9:10amObama hopes to unite the black vote behind him on this issue,plus continue the divide and conquer agenda.
Report Post »Redwood Elf
Posted on April 20, 2012 at 9:20amMainly as a big “STFU” to Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton.
I mean come on…if this guy’s name had been “Pedro Hernandez” instead of the incredibly white-sounding “George Zimmerman”, do you think Jackson and Sharpton would have had any interest at all? They jumped right on it, forcing the media to invent a new race called “White Hispanic”.
Wasn‘t it incredibly amusing how Treyvon’s Mother said she believed it was an accident, then did an about-face the next day (I’m assuming Jackson or Sharpton took her out to the woodshed and gave her a good talking to…)
Report Post »Gonzo
Posted on April 20, 2012 at 9:22amMcDave, I think you are correct.
Report Post »Arizona Don
Posted on April 20, 2012 at 9:37amIt’s called a lynch mob, plain and simple!
Report Post »bigdaddyt46
Posted on April 20, 2012 at 9:45amwhat roasts my nuts is the family statement after they saw the picture. IF ZIMMERMAN HADN‘T FOLLOWED HIM HE WOULDN’T HAVE BEEN ATTCKED, AND TRAYVON WOULD STILL BE ALIVE TODAY. still not blaming their own son when alot of evidence has already shown that he was the transgressor towards the end. i’ve noticed over the years that is how blacks are when confronted with any type of authority. it’s always the authorities that are wrong, and the blacks are really the victims. i have dedicated over 25 years of my life to law enforcement (security, body guard) and have seen this first hand. when stopped and confronted the white kids vs the black kids and police and parents were called, the white fathers ripped into their kids. the blacks showed up claiming I and the police were racists because we had stopped and held their “innocent angels”. it didn’t matter that thier kids had dirt on thier hands from picking up and throwing rocks i was racistist for detaining their little angels. makes me sick.
Report Post »RiverMz
Posted on April 20, 2012 at 5:48pmWhat would you call it? Zimmerman broke neighborhood watch rules by carrying a firearm. Zimmerman attended an emergency meeting, held by the local chief of police less than a month before, and informed not to carry a weapon when on neighborhood watch. A meeting that was held because of the many complaints about Zimmerman’s thuggery tactics as a self appointed neighborhood watch captain. Zimmerman continued to stalk Martin after 911 operator told him not to do that, that Police were on there way.
yikes, it’s terrifying that so many folks, that use such poor judgement, are legally carrying assault weapons, and can take our constitutional right, to walk to the store in the evening away from us with one shot.
Report Post »Walkabout
Posted on April 20, 2012 at 8:44amThe leftist media (MSM) has already made their judgement. They cannot, dare not & will not retract it.
The MSM is digging us deeper into the mire of racial politics & they enjoy doing so.
Report Post »rambosharley
Posted on April 20, 2012 at 8:43amThis photo or any other photo is gonna matter to the RACE baiters. They need this “war” to continue.
Report Post »Walkabout
Posted on April 20, 2012 at 8:45amUnfortunately :(
Report Post »rambosharley
Posted on April 20, 2012 at 9:47amOOPS correction….isn’t gonna matter!
Report Post »garbagecanlogic
Posted on April 20, 2012 at 8:43amWonder how Jesse Jackass and Al Sharpless will spin this one?
Praise Be To Obama. Psalm 109:8
The U.S. Out Of The U.N.
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Redwood Elf
Posted on April 20, 2012 at 9:36amRemember, they’re heavily into that “911 Truther” movement…if they can look at video footage of airplanes crashing into the twin towers and try to claim the buildings were actually brought down by secret explosives planted by George Bush and Dick Cheney, a picture of actual blood on Zimmerman’s actual head, taken moments after the actual gunshot aren’t going to slow them down.
Report Post »Baddoggy
Posted on April 20, 2012 at 8:43amNo way!! Travon was an innocent little angel. He could never do that….He could not text how he was going to beat the hell out of the guy following him either. He is an innocent victim I tell you….The pictures have to be doctored by FOX News and given to ABC as a joke…Travon is a hero. He needs a Silver Star and Medal of Valor for his service to his hood…while in his hoodie.
Report Post »Rightallalong
Posted on April 20, 2012 at 9:06amWell he IS OBAMMIE’s son if he had a son … maybe OBAMMIE’s other son could be the sweet angle that shot the two Brit tourists.
Report Post »Arizona Don
Posted on April 20, 2012 at 9:28amAre you that misguided or just stupid? Just in case it is really sarcasm this is nothing to be joking about. One person is dead another accused of murder. Furthermore, perhaps you don’t really know but it is an awful thing to take another persons life. I can assure you Zimmerman will never forget it and never forgive himself for getting into that situation where he had to take another persons life to protect his own. However, taking a life to protect a life is legal and a God given right. There is little doubt that is the conclusion the court will reach. There is considerable difference between following for observation purposes and being physically attacked. Just remember one thing. If you set out to harm or attack someone be advised you could be killed in self defense. There have been a few instances of that here in Arizona, maybe folks will start to get a little more polite soon. There are no finer people in the whole world than real cowboys and true westerners. But they do not take to being pushed around either.
Because of the movies attempt to glorify the old west to sell movie tickets it was called the wild west. Nothing could be farther from the truth. But who would have gone to the movies if it was really known to be a very polite west. Oh there were some bad guys but not like it was depicted in the movies.
Report Post »Baddoggy
Posted on April 20, 2012 at 10:21amIf you havent figured it is sarcasm. I understand someome died. Do you not understand that we all die?
Report Post »AMENDMENT
Posted on April 20, 2012 at 8:42amThat’s ketchup, and that pic is from Halloween. Who are these whiteys tryin to fool, i still want my riot and obamy $’s
Report Post »CharlesMartel
Posted on April 21, 2012 at 4:04pmIt was taken by a witness in the presence of the responding police officers. The same police officers who took him to the police station and then gave him his gun back. Do you think those officers might know something you don’t know?
Do you think it is a coincidence that those officers signatures were not on the arrest affidavit?
Do you think it is a coincidence that even though the arrest affidavit was on her letterhead, Special Prosecutor Angela Corey’s signature was not on it?
Report Post »RRFlyer
Posted on April 20, 2012 at 8:42amEvery since the shooting all reports have somehow left out the word, “alleged” when saying Zimmerman shot Travon Martin. But here we have the alleged picture of the alleged blood on the alleged head of Zimmerman
Report Post »moodtd01
Posted on April 20, 2012 at 9:01amIt’s the same thing the MSM did with Major Nadal Hassan the Ft. Hood terrorist infiltrator. Numerous video and eyewitness accounts show him doing it. Yet for over a year afterwards they were calling him the “suspected or accused” Ft. Hood shooter. It is the same case here only reversed.
Report Post »TheSoundOf Truth
Posted on April 20, 2012 at 12:26pmStop calling him “Major”; he lost that title the second he took up arms against his fellow soldiers.
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