Actor Kirk Cameron: Homosexuality is ‘Unnatural’ and ‘Destructive’
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Former “Growing Pains” star Kirk Cameron told CNN’s Piers Morgan Friday that homosexuality is “unnatural” and “destructive to so many of the foundations of civilization.”
Cameron, an evangelical Christian, has been back in the news lately to promote his new documentary “Monumental,” about America’s founding principles. He attended the Conservative Political Action Conference last month and appeared on GBTV.
In a sit-down interview on “Piers Morgan Tonight,” the host repeatedly pressed Cameron about his views on social issues.
“I believe that marriage was designed by God a long time ago — marriage is almost as old as dirt and it was defined in the garden between Adam and Eve — one man, one woman for life till death do you part.” Cameron said when asked about his gay marriage views. “I would never attempt to try to redefine marriage, and I don’t think anyone else should either so do I support the idea of gay marriage? No, I don’t.”
Cameron — who at first joked, “I feel like I just got imported into the Christine O’Donnell interview you did back in August” at Morgan’s line of questioning — said he does not consider being gay normal.
“I think that it’s unnatural, I think that it’s detrimental and ultimately destructive to so many of the foundations of civilization,” Cameron said. Asked what he would say to his son if he announced he was gay, Cameron answered, “Just because you feel one way doesn’t mean you should act on everything you feel.”
When Morgan sounded incredulous at Cameron’s answer, he replied: “Piers, you‘re speaking to a man who’s a Christian and I believe all of us are sinful, that’s what I teach my kids. I teach them the values that I hold dear, I treasure the God that loves me and forgives me of my sin.”
Abortion, he said, is “wrong in any circumstances.”
“I think that someone who is ultimately willing to murder a child, even to fix another tragic and devastating situation like rape or incest or things like that, is not taking the moral high road,” Cameron said. “I think that we’re compounding the problem by also murdering a little child.”
Watch the clip of Cameron’s interview below, via Mediaite:
In response to Cameron’s statements, the Gay and Lesbian Alliance Against Defamation started a petition to tell the former teen heartthrob “it’s time to finally grow up.”
“In this interview, Kirk Cameron sounds even more dated than his 1980s TV character,” Herndon Graddick, GLAAD’s senior director of programs at GLAAD. “Cameron is out of step with a growing majority of Americans, particularly people of faith who believe that their gay and lesbian brothers and sisters should be loved and accepted based on their character and not condemned because of their sexual orientation.”
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TeaPartyPatriot
Posted on March 3, 2012 at 5:07pm…One guess as to who has just been blackballed from hollywierd and whose career in movies and tv is finished…
Report Post »Truthurts
Posted on March 3, 2012 at 5:13pmKirk Cameron burned that bridge a long time ago.
Report Post »snooop1e
Posted on March 3, 2012 at 6:00pm@Truthurts – Roger that, Kirks been out of the Hollywood scene for years now, he’s made his choice, he’s chosen to follow God. God Bless him and his family.
Report Post »jzs
Posted on March 4, 2012 at 1:05amWell, he’s certaintly learned his lines.
Report Post »Bad_Ashe
Posted on March 4, 2012 at 1:32amAs far as homosexuality being “unnatural” is concerned, I really don’t understand how this is a matter of debate, outside of hurting the feelings of many in the gay community. Leaving religious belief out of it, we are by our very nature designed to procreate and to propagate the species. Homosexuality accomplishes none of this. It is by the very rules of nature an aberrant behavior, be it due to a defective genetic mutation or responses to social environment. As I don’t judge someone by their sexuality, this is not a judgment, but simply a rational observation.
In regards to it being “destructive”, there is certainly a historical case to be made. Most cultures openly accepting of homosexuality were also accepting of polygamy, pedophilia, and infanticide, and there is a significant trend of moral and ethical erosion which eventually led to the downfall of these cultures. Can we say with complete assurance that this was the overlying cause? No…but it surely was a contributing factor.
Report Post »B_rad
Posted on March 4, 2012 at 2:07am@Bad_Ashe, there are no absolutes in nature. Yes, it is normal to be heterosexual and homosexuality is abnormal. Just by the virtue of definition, anything which has a 90/10% ratio is normal/abnormal. Does that mean everything outside the norm is unnatural? Of course not. Homosexual tendencies exist in many species as well as man. It is not the norm because, as you said, the species must propagate. But to say that any homosexuality is unnatural because it doesn’t procreate, when the 90% does, is just silly. There is no danger to the species from people who are gay. By the same token, many straight people are born barren. Is it unnatural because the species must propagate, or is it a naturally occurring aberration that will be compensated for by the whole?
When you say cultures “openly accepting of homosexuality”, what do you mean? By openly accepting, did they accept a fact of life that isn’t going away? Accept what is, whether or not you approve of it. Now, if you meant openly tolerant, that is something different. If we are not a society that is openly tolerant of homosexuality, what is the alternative? Shall we round ‘em up and send them to camps? Whether society condones the behavior or not, a free world/country/society must be tolerant of it, lest it uses its might to infringe upon the basic, God-given human rights of the individual. If society decides to be intolerant of homosexuality, we have a good role model in Iran. I think we can do better.
Report Post »Bad_Ashe
Posted on March 4, 2012 at 2:10amThe one thing that burns me about incidents like this one is that the homosexual community wants to establish themselves as a protected class. It’s okay to run down Christians, Jews, heterosexuals, caucasians, conservatives, blacks and latinos (if they’re conservative), and in some cases, other gays (if they’re conservative), but if you say something that even politely disagrees with the liberal homosexual lifestyle you have hateful idiots like Dan Savage spewing venom at you, GLAAD wanting public apologies, and the producers of “Glee” painting you as some sort of homophobic bully at worst and a closeted homosexual at best.
Outside of threats, slander and libel, free speech is universal in this country, not selective…no class should be protected over another one, and I’m offended (liberal buzzword) by the fact that the rainbow PC police want to try and silence those who don’t agree with them.
Report Post »Reelist
Posted on March 4, 2012 at 2:34amb_rad, well said!
Being tolerant of homosexuality WILL NOT increase the number of homosexuals.
I always hear how a society becoming accepting of homosexuals will destroy that society but I am NEVER given any reason by these folks as to why that would be or why it will happen. Their arguments invariably turn to how polygamy, beastiality and any number of social pathologies will destroy the society.
Typical argument for someone who has no argument. Change the premise of the question and then argue that changed premise. Pretty poor debating tactic.
Yes, I’m talking about you, bad_ashe.
Report Post »asybot12
Posted on March 4, 2012 at 3:21am@BAD_ASHE, I support your position I wish we could expand and highlight the cultures that through deviant behavior went to their downfall if it was only their disappearance from history it could be accepted but the destruction of cultural artifacts that happens at tjme same time is absolutely appaling for instance the blowing up of the Buddah stature in Afghanistan (**** sexuality is accepted in the Islam society). This is just 1 example but during pogroms against any society the destruction of the material parts (paintings, buildings , works of engineering etc.) are astounding . Just thank the Lord the spiritual side always survives!
Report Post »PATTY HENRY
Posted on March 4, 2012 at 3:22amTHIS IS A TRUE YOUNG MAN of GOD and he understands that a lot more is at stake than a silly acting career. He’s been there, done that. He has quite a lot of good things to say and he is doing what he feels GOD has placed him here to do. I’ll buy his book.
Report Post »Bad_Ashe
Posted on March 4, 2012 at 3:26am@B_RAD – Your response is appreciated but is both a definitional dodge and overly pedantic. There are very little in the way of absolutes in nature, but the driving instinct for nearly every form of life on the planet is procreation; homosexuality is antithetical to procreation and is an abnormality, as you admit, which equates it to an aberrant behavior. Nothing I’ve stated here is controversial, so this debate is unnecessary.
Technically speaking, be it normal or abnormal, anything emerging from nature is “natural”, so it should be clear to anyone with common sense that the use of the word “unnatural” here is defined as not being accordance with normal human behavior, which is one of the modern, accepted, and commonly used definitions of the term. Feel free to look it up.
Since you like to split definitional hairs, you should already know that there is a marked difference between tolerance, social acceptance, and glorification. Again, you are either being overly pedantic or simply obtuse here.
The remainder of your post is a strawman argument, or simply uses absurd examples to support a point not in contention — unless of course you can show where I stated that homosexuality or other abnormalities naturally occurring in a small percentage of the populace were a danger to the species, or you can make some valid logical leap from my statements to your baseless, alarmist hypotheticals.
Reading comprehension is a skill. Cheers!
Report Post »Bad_Ashe
Posted on March 4, 2012 at 3:30am@REELIST
Another effective argumentative technique involves addressing the statements actually made by your interlocutor, not definitional dodges and strawman fallacies.
Reading comprehension is a skill. Cheers!
Report Post »JJ Coolay
Posted on March 4, 2012 at 4:44amI find it almost comical that nearly 100% of the time when someone states their opinion and that opinion is in opposition to homosexuality, the GLTB community reacts in some way or another.
Report Post »Can’t you people let other people have an opinion without getting involved?
JJ Coolay
Posted on March 4, 2012 at 4:47amBeing tolerant of homosexuality WILL NOT increase the number of homosexuals.
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It most certainly does.
Report Post »And the same could be said of almost anything.
Be tolerant of bad behavior and it breeds bad behavior.
old white guy
Posted on March 4, 2012 at 8:06amtruth hurts… you are right kirk did burn that bridge long ago. i’m thinking he has far more support than the homosexual groups around the country have. the majority of people do not think homsexuality is ok or normal.
Report Post »1956
Posted on March 4, 2012 at 8:58amKirk has been active in making Christian based movies for some time now…. and they are good movies. Better than the trash Hollyweird puts out. He’s not worried about working – he has work and will always have work. There ARE other avenues to acting, directing or producing movies besides Hollywood, you know.
Report Post »CounterStrike
Posted on March 4, 2012 at 10:53am@B_RAD Qoute: “Does that mean everything outside the norm is unnatural? Of course not. Homosexual tendencies exist in many species as well as man.”
Animals cannot be homosexual. What they do is natural to them, it is built into their nature.
There’s a big difference between the animal kingdom and the human race. Animals do it because it’s in their nature. It’s not like only a few male dogs would hump your leg. Given the chance all male dogs would do it when in heat. They have to satisfy what is built into their nature. Humans do it for other reasons such as mental and/or physical deficiencies. Both of these aliments lead to choice. Their desires for the same sex are stronger but it is still a choice. When sin entered the world it also caused physical ailments which can lead to lust for the same sex. When a person chooses to murder it can be the result of sin such as hatred or jealously or a medical problem such as being born a sociopath. With this said when someone has an ailment such as cancer they seek medical attention and if they believe in God they will seek spiritual help. Simply put, if a person chooses to engage in this behavior then they need physiological help. If they have too much testosterone or estrogen or other factors then they need medical help!
Report Post »Calm Voice of Reason
Posted on March 4, 2012 at 11:04amThere is nothing about our understanding of evolution by means of natural selection that would preclude the frequency of homosexuality in a population. Non-reproductive members in a generation still offer many benefits for the survival of their kin’s genome; one promising idea is the “gay uncle” hypothesis which holds that it is beneficial to have non-reproducing kin assist in the raising of a child, while also reducing the load on scarce resources. Science has not identified any “gay gene”, though this is inconclusive of anything-we have only been able to identify a handful of the tens of thousands of genes and many traits that humans have are found in the combinations of multiple genes. There is still a lot of work to do.
I am unaware of any civilizations being destroyed by homosexuality. It would seem to be a rather simple task to name one, and if proponents of this notion could just do that one simple thing, I would like to hear about it.
Report Post »jdog777
Posted on March 4, 2012 at 11:26amthere is another “Hollywood” that operates behind the scenes that endorses this level of morality. Christians produce and distribute this kind of material. It isn’t long before the degradation of morality and the values of secular humanists is behind us.
Report Post »Anonymouse.
Posted on March 4, 2012 at 12:00pmKirk Cameron is another example of a religious extremist who holds a lot of delusional bigoted views. He’s a great candidate for kidnapping and deprogramming. What a nutter.
Report Post »B_rad
Posted on March 4, 2012 at 12:15pm@Bad_Ashe, there is no need to be throwing around insults. I’m not being pedantic or obtuse. I admit to including broader arguments in my response to you, but as you and I are not the only two reading this correspondence, I tend to speak to the broader audience, specifically those who have said “if we were meant to be homosexual, the species would have died out”, or words to that effect. As you can tell, this is an issue near and dear to me, and I think all too often the argument falls into a deep divide that doesn’t speak to the reality or humanity of the issue.
Words have meanings, sir, and it is all too easy for people to throw words around and say “I meant the other definition” when it suits them. When you boldly state that something is unnatural, better than a few people are going to take that as “not coming from nature”, which tends to further the argument that homosexual tendencies are a choice, or that they come from nurture. I was clarifying that is not the case.
Similarly, the word “accept” is fairly vague, and “tolerate” is more specific and pointed. My question remains, if we are to be a society that doesn’t accept (by your apparent usage), or tolerate homosexuals, what shall we do with them?
I think it would be much more accurate to say that societies who have accepted (all forms) progressivism have met their demise. Gays aren’t a danger to society, progressives are.
Report Post »I support God's Israel!
Posted on March 4, 2012 at 1:54pmThe truth has no agenda. I do have to add one thing to Kirk’s statement – the PRACTICING Homosexual (some homosexuals have asked forgiveness and now, do not practice this), AND, it is destructive to his SOUL, most of all and not just to him or her physically.
The SOUL IS ETERNAL and God will provide those souls who have defiled the body, a very special place. Since God CANNOT LOOK UPON SIN, it won’t be with Him or in His presence. That only leaves one place left. You figure it out. It is a blunt reality, but if Americans would follow the truth, IT WOULD SET THEM FREE, but no, society forces them to be politically correct, which is hazardous to their souls.
Report Post »Bible Verses About Homosexuality
Revelation 21:8 (KJV)
Leviticus 18:22 (NLT)
Leviticus 20:13 (NLT)
1 Corinthians 6:9 (NLT)
Romans 13:13 (NIV)
1 Corinthians 6:13 (NIV)
1 Corinthians 7:2 (NIV)
1 Corinthians 6:18 (NIV)
Ephesians 5:3 (NIV)
Colossians 3:5 (NIV)
1 Thessalonians 4:3-7 (KJV)
I support God's Israel!
Posted on March 4, 2012 at 1:59pmAnonymouse.:
I feel very sorry for you that you are so bound up in LIES and POLITICAL CORRECTNESS. You are a very sad example of someone who has turned away from God’s truth, if you ever had it. I used to believe the same way, sort of, until God opened my eyes and I began reading His Word. ALL ANSWERS to ANYTHING is in the Bible. It is mankind that has refused to follow it and therefore, since God never changes and man does (look at history), THEN YOU ARE WRONG.
Every word that comes out of your mouth, whether it is out loud, or whether it is written, will be judged by God Almighty on Judgement Day, which I do believe is not far off now. Rethink your position soon because you WILL have to decide whose side you are on AND those who follow Christ HAVE ALREADY WON THE BATTLE (read Revelation), so right now, you are on the wrong side. I hope you ask God to open your eyes, as I did. HE WILL, I PROMISE YOU, if you are sincere.
Report Post »sdbonkowski
Posted on March 4, 2012 at 3:46pmBeing tolerant of homosexuality WILL NOT increase the number of homosexuals.
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It most certainly does.
And the same could be said of almost anything.
Be tolerant of bad behavior and it breeds bad behavior.
i agree with JJ, not to mention the liberal homosexual crowd recruit and promote and pressure others into accepting their homosexuality where the conservative homosexuals are happy finding their partner and NOT try cramming their lifestyle up societies anus…so to speak. which is a pain in their ass and makes them less tolerant and ends up hurting all homosexuals liberal and conservative. the good/peaceful homosexual people get the short end of the stick.
Report Post »kjo1955
Posted on March 4, 2012 at 4:56pmThank you to Kurt for his honest answers to some difficult questions. If only everyone could stay as respectful when presenting their opinion. I am upset because the gay and lesbian community has decided that since it cannot change the way I think, it will introduce the it‘s OK to be gay agenda to my grandchildren under the guise of don’t bully other people. I say teach my grandkids not to bully others, but do not teach them that your sexuality in normal or Godly. If you want to live together, get the same benefits as married people, have a piece of paper that says you are a legal couple, fine. What you really want is for Godly people to say is that homosexuality is normal. Not going to happen.
Report Post »Bad_Ashe
Posted on March 4, 2012 at 5:57pm@B_RAD – I didn’t insult you, I simply gave what I thought were the most obvious reasons for some of your more logically deficient responses. No one is immune to bouts of pedantry or obtuseness, and while I attributed traits to your argument (state of being), I did not directly attribute any traits to you at all.
We clearly are not the only two reading this correspondence, but my logic holds true nonetheless. If you want to expound your argument for a broader audience, that is fine as I have been known to do the same, but you should be clear as to whether or not you are directly responding to your interlocutor or speaking to the pit.
The conclusion of your second paragraph is a bit perplexing as there is no philosophical, scientific, medical, or societal consensus on homosexuality being a matter of nature over nurture or vice versa, particularly since there are many examples of both in the homosexual community. “Born this way” may sound good on a sign or when ripping off Madonna, but it is hardly incontrovertible and there are numerous examples in opposition to this explanation.
Report Post »Bad_Ashe
Posted on March 4, 2012 at 5:58pm@B_RAD – I assumed the definitions of accept, tolerate, etc. were clear as we all have access to a dictionary; roughly stated, “tolerate” is to allow and respect the existence of, “acceptance” is to agree with an action (in this case as a social norm), and “glorification” is to bestow praise and admiration. We can certainly be tolerant and respectful of homosexual activity, yet not accept it as a social norm or glorify it as something to be elevated above the social norm.
The historical argument that embracing all forms of progressivism is detrimental to a society is a sound one, and I tend to agree. To expound on what I stated in my initial post, accepting homosexuality is not necessarily the cause of societal downfall, but is a contributing factor if only because it is indicative of this systemic problem. Remember that while rhetorically the “slippery slope” may be ignored as an informal fallacy, when viewed historically it is also quite often a sound predictive model.
Cheers!
Report Post »PIGSWILLNEVERFLY
Posted on March 4, 2012 at 5:59pmAlready have ticket to Monumental. Went to see Act of Valor and bought my ticket for Monumental for March 27 while I was there. Looking forward to this one. Should be interesting.
Report Post »Brittsmom
Posted on March 4, 2012 at 6:01pm…ummmm, Kirk Cameron? Actually, his career was toast when he accepted Jesus as his personal savior, as is anyone in Hollywood that does the same.
Report Post »tarm778
Posted on March 4, 2012 at 6:41pm@ Calm voice in your head.
Under Darwin’s process of natural selection, all “beings” — as opposed to the outmoded religious idea of “creatures” — are continually adapting to their natural environment in order to have a better chance of surviving. The weakest and most poorly adapted die off, while the strongest and most improved survive long enough to mate. Their offspring inherit their genes, and thus the species improves from one generation to the next.
Darwin “noted that successful species produce more offspring in each generation than are needed to replace the adults who die . . . The species would thus have changed or evolved to favor traits that favor survival and reproduction,” MedTerms explains.
This means that not only must these beings be able to reproduce sexually, they must actually do so, for evolution to work as posited. Under evolution, then, successful reproduction is the key. Homosexuals would cease to exist because their sexual practices are such that they do not produce natural offspring.
Darwin was useful for one thing.
Report Post »Bad_Ashe
Posted on March 4, 2012 at 6:42pm@CALM VOICE OF REASON –
Based on your response, I’m guessing you really dig the EP. Now if only your comments weren’t a collection of ex post facto “just so” explanations that are at best conjecture and at worst evidentially nonexistent, you might be onto something.
Part of the reason the “gay uncle” hypothesis has not developed much since its introduction in the 1930s and is only perpetuated by the most hardcore of neo-Darwinists is because it has failed under observation of modern societies, and has only arguably been observed in less developed cultures.
Of course, there are many other proposed explanations as to why this mutation might be beneficial, but all are on equally shaky ground. On a related note, a little gift from me to you –
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Anonymouse.
Posted on March 4, 2012 at 7:35pmIsupportgodsisrae, funny your god creates the genetics that make some gay and then his church declares them evil and hell bound. You religious nutjobs are fools – all of you. Shame on you all.
Report Post »rtist542010
Posted on March 4, 2012 at 8:29pmBetter to burn a bridge with Hollywood than the Lord :-)
So interesting that right and wrong is defined by gay and lesbian groups as “time sensitive” matter. To them the “right thing” is measured by a consensus of their peers. So what happens if you have a huge convention of pedophiles gathered together? Does pedophillia become good and the right thing to do?
Big props to Kirk! A true man of faith. Not the counterfeit faith of those who claim to follow Jesus and still do what they justify as ok, as mentioned by glaad.
Report Post »Favored93
Posted on March 4, 2012 at 11:38pmThe man is a modern day hero of the faith! Go Kirk!!!!
Report Post »thepatriotdave
Posted on March 4, 2012 at 11:59pmKirk is one stand-up guy. I only wish more real Men would stand up and tell the truth without fear. And a person doesn’t have to be a Christian to know that he is right about the 2 issues he commented on, ‘abortion and being gay’.
Report Post »thepatriotdave
Posted on March 5, 2012 at 12:06amExcuse me for pointing out the obvious… This statement “Being tolerant of homosexuality WILL NOT increase the number of homosexuals” is the dumbest thing I have read so far this year. Thank the Lord that we have 10 more months to out-do this one comment.
Report Post »Ardway
Posted on March 5, 2012 at 7:49am…One guess as to who has just been blackballed from hollywierd and whose career in movies and tv is finished….
Report Post »I’m not so sure that this is the end for him. Who says that Hollywood will be dominated by the detritus of humanity forever? Perhaps strong, faithful Christians will prevail, in time, against the perverted view that now rules it. I pray that Cameron and his faith will prevail against the forces of darkness there. He is not alone.
Kitkarr
Posted on March 5, 2012 at 10:14amI don’t think that the issue is tolerance or acceptance of homosexuals as people, I think the issue is tolerance or acceptance of homosexuality as a practice. So, as far as “rounding them up,” that’s an alarmist view point. However, homosexuality is a sin and therefore very destructive to those affected by it. The temptation isn’t the sin, its the choice to act incorrectly on that temptation. Several members of my family struggle with this and most of them fail in that struggle. There is one who is much closer than the others who battles it back every day and, with God’s help, endures and overcomes it.
We need to stop defining ourselves by our sin because as long as we do, we are slaves to it.
Report Post »TheCrusader007
Posted on March 5, 2012 at 10:20amHe is right and he honors God and his Son Jesus with everything he is saying and doing.
Report Post »So, in return, God will honor him so much more, if not starting here already, in Heaven for sure and anybody else who follows the Lord Jesus.
piper22
Posted on March 5, 2012 at 10:29am“Cameron is out of step with a growing majority of Americans, particularly people of faith who believe that their [brothers and sisters who have sex with 10 year olds] should be loved and accepted based on their character and not condemned because of their sexual [activities].”
Fixed it for you.
Report Post »Marci
Posted on March 5, 2012 at 10:30am“In this interview, Kirk Cameron sounds even more dated than his 1980s TV character,” Herndon Graddick, GLAAD’s senior director of programs at GLAAD. “Cameron is out of step with a growing majority of Americans, particularly people of faith who believe that their gay and lesbian brothers and sisters should be loved and accepted based on their character and not condemned because of their sexual orientation.”
*Typical. He didn‘t say they weren’t worthy of love or acceptance. He said he thought it was unnatural, destructive, and that he didn’t believe in gay marriage. GLAAD has a lot of nerve trying to CONDEMN others for not accepting ( I didn’t say tolerating, they want you to ACCEPT IT) their orientation, and their “brothers and sisters” have takent to acting like supreme DATED morons themselves by throwing glitter on politicians and people they don’t like.
Report Post »GeoMax
Posted on March 5, 2012 at 12:18pmThat’s why we Christians and patriots need to ignore Hollywierd and support movies created by people who share our values. If you haven’t seen “Fireproof” or “Courageous” please do so as soon as you can. Thanks.
Report Post »watchtheotherhand
Posted on March 5, 2012 at 1:14pmTheir sexual orientation reflects their character. They are either in open defiance and rebellion to the word of God and therefore unrepentant or they are confessing AND repenting of their sin (to turn away from). Homosexuality can be forgiven IF it is repented of. No different from being proud or immoral. The key is do I justify my sin and stay in it because I love my sin more than God or do I submit to what God commands and repent of my sin trusting in Jesus for that forgiveness. They don’t even recognize it as sin. Therefore they do not repent, therefore they stand condemned already.
Report Post »Git-R-Done
Posted on March 5, 2012 at 2:30pmB_Rad – Incest, bestiality, and other sexual abnormalities also aren’t going away, does that mean we should accept them as normal like you want us to accept homosexuality as normal?
Report Post »deeberj
Posted on March 5, 2012 at 3:37pmBad_Ashe – my DS who is almost 19 totally agrees with you. He told me the other day, religiona nd societal views aside, homosexuality is against what our bodies were intended to do.
Report Post »FoxholeAtheist
Posted on March 6, 2012 at 7:05pmI wonder if Kirk is mixing his fabrics while he dines at Red Lobster.
Report Post »weldman7
Posted on March 3, 2012 at 5:01pmI urge everyone to click on Glaads petition and in the comments section support Kirk. It will burn them up.I bet that they won’t post those comments!
Report Post »snooop1e
Posted on March 3, 2012 at 5:38pmThanks for suggesting we leave a comment on the GLAAD website, I just did, I posted this “if homosexuality is ”natural” why can’t homosexuals procreate “naturally”? Pretty simple concept. If everyone was gay we wouldn’t even be here….. Nuff said. God Bless….
Report Post »Truthurts
Posted on March 3, 2012 at 6:38pmI can’t do this. I don’t trust these people. While they accuse Cameron and the rest of us of being hateful, I know too many of them that truly are hateful, bitter, spiteful people that will not hesitate to act out in vengeance. It only takes one nut job to ruin your day.
Report Post »B_rad
Posted on March 3, 2012 at 10:17pmRespectfully, if it doesn’t come from nature, from where does it come? I will grant you it is not normal, as in the norm, as in the vast majority of the population is one way- hence normal. But, abnormal things are naturally occurring too. There are far too many of us for it to be some product of our environment. I was never molested in any way, had no gay influences, had no trauma, and FOUGHT against my feelings from the time I started having them until I finally accepted reality and dealt with it at age 34. I fought my feelings for 20 years because I wanted NOTHING more than to have a normal life. Yet many of the people here will tell you I choose to be this way and I’m an evil person out to destroy everything right and good about America. I’m no such thing, and I fight just as hard as anyone to preserve the freedoms and values that define the USA. But to listen to many of you, I’m a third class citizen who, at best, deserves your pity, but not your respect, or the same God-given rights you enjoy. I don’t want to change you or your children. I don’t want to impose anything about myself on you, and neither do most gays out there. We want to live our lives free from worry that we’ll be attacked or discriminated against – just like you.
People, the problem most of you have is not with gays, it’s with progressives who want to shove their ideology down your throats and force you into their box. Can you not see that forcing YOUR ideology on others is just as bad?
Report Post »crichton
Posted on March 3, 2012 at 10:33pmHold on Weldman7, if you sign the petition and left an opposing comment, that doesn’t matter to them, you‘re still signing the petition and they will add it in just like everone else’s.
Report Post »gambit5555
Posted on March 3, 2012 at 11:57pmB_Rad, respectfully, the same argument can be made about polygamy and pedophilia. As Kirk Cameron stated, just because we feel something doesn’t mean we act on every feeling. Our society has gotten to a point now where people are convinced they need to act on every feeling they have, but that just not the truth. Gof bless you and watch over you.
Report Post »RowdieGal
Posted on March 4, 2012 at 1:08amTo B_Rad:
You said: “Yet many of the people here will tell you I choose to be this way and I’m an evil person out to destroy everything right and good about America. I’m no such thing, and I fight just as hard as anyone to preserve the freedoms and values that define the USA.”
Homosexuality is a multi-layered issue, IMO. It’s not black and white. There are those who deliberately chose the lifestyle (for instance, actress Cynthia Nixon recently admitted she dated men and women and according to her, “Women are better.”), and there are those who knew from a very early age they were attracted to those of the same gender.
Here’s the difference as to what is considered right and wrong: If one decides to follow Christ and become a Christian, then homosexual acts are wrong. Notice I said “acts.” We are all sinners and fall short of the glory of God. So if you decided to become a Christian, you would be called to renounce your acts and live a life of celibacy or pursue a desire to be love someone of the opposite sex and ask God to make a way. He has done so already for many people, both men and women.
No one in my eyes is a “second-class citizen.” All have something to contribute to society. You’re unfortunately reaping the bitter fruit of radical gay activists who have done hateful things like throw condoms on Catholic schoolgirls and screamed at churchgoers that they were intolerant.
I do wish you well and for the record, do not think you’re evil.
Report Post »Cousin_of_Marx
Posted on March 4, 2012 at 1:09am@snooop1e
Rhetorical question: If heterosexual procreation is “natural”, explain to me why nature allows a brainless feeb like you to go on living? Nature is taking an awfully big risk that you might procreate.
Report Post »ModerationIsBest
Posted on March 4, 2012 at 1:37am@GAMBIT5555
Pedophilia laws are in place to protect………….the children who we as a society have determined are vulnerable and susceptible to adult pressure and influence. These two are just NOT the same thing.
I am not inherently opposed to polygamy but that isn’t relevant to the issue. I believe if you look at most marriage licenses, it doesn’t dictate a place for the man to sign and the woman to sign. From some examples(granted I haven‘t seen how they’re written in all states), they are just two blank lines where each party fills in their name. Which means the definition of marriage is applied outside the bounds of the certificate of marriage. So essentially, in those states where the certificate of marriage doesn’t specifically write out a “groom” signature and a “bride” signature, it is basically a contract between two individuals. So as it stands right now, you could apply homosexual marriage to heterosexual marriage in that it is a contract between two individuals and not applicable to polygamy. It is why regardless of heterosexual marriage or homosexual marriage, you can’t get re-married if you are currently married.
I think the Gov’t should get out of marriage, have every couple come down and rip up their marriage license, give them civil unions, and if they want to be considered married, go to a church and get it done but your marriage isn’t recognized by any form of Govt.
Report Post »B_rad
Posted on March 4, 2012 at 2:27am@Gambit, I agree with you about some things, but let’s get this out of the way first. Pedophilia and pederasty, by their very nature, harm innocent people. When two adults get together and do what, to them, comes naturally, they are causing no harm to an innocent party. Let’s try to remember that, okay?
To your point, all actions are a choice, and just because we feel we want to do something does not mean we should do it. I understand that, and agree, but I’d like you to step into my shoes for just a moment. At a very early age, about the time you should be thinking how pretty that nice lady on TV is, you’re actually thinking about the guy next to her. You don’t even understand sexual attraction at this point. By the time you start to understand sex, you well know that you aren’t supposed to feel this way about men, so you fight it. You pray on it, you try to ignore it. Think back, could you ignore the feelings you had for the opposite sex when you were 13? For 20 years you fight those feelings, never getting too close to a girl, no matter how much you like them, because it wouldn’t be fair to them. As I see it, I had three choices; I could deceive a woman into marriage, I could remain celibate, or I could try to live as normal a life as possible with the hand I was dealt. Perhaps you could be stronger than I? Incidentally, I did accept Jesus as my savior, also at a very young age. I could be wrong, but it seems to me He’ll forgive me for not being strong enough.
Report Post »B_rad
Posted on March 4, 2012 at 2:45am@RowdieGal, you are correct that some gays make a conscious decision to be gay even though they are biologically attracted to the opposite sex. I believe that of the few who have made that choice, the overwhelming majority of those would be women. I have several reasons for that belief, none of which I’ll go into, unless someone finds that something they wish to discuss.
Report Post »For the vast majority of us, we simply had no choice in the way we feel. It is the height of arrogance for many who suggest most of us have chosen this life. I know that isn’t what you are saying, I digressed.
Yes, I, and the majority of gays who simply want an equal shot at the American experience, have fallen victim to the well-organized, well-oiled big gay progressive left machine. The first thought most people have when they see the antics of the big gay left is FREAKS. I think that also. When I see a “hoard of barbarians” (literally and figuratively) swarm the private offices of a man married to a presidential candidate, simply because they didn’t like (or understand) something he said, I would like to vomit.
I don’t want to indoctrinate the youth (unless it’s in the ways of the constitution), and I don’t want to force individuals or organizations to change their beliefs to suit me. I merely want to be free to live the life I choose to live, free from fear of reprisals simply because others don’t like my choices. I don’t ask anyone to condone how I live, merely tolerate it, in peace.
edmundburk
Posted on March 4, 2012 at 4:00am@B-RAD- I truly sympothise with your plight, and just want to say that like homsexuality,like drinking problems are probley hederity, I suffer from a drinking problem drank untill my 40′s. I thank god that I was delievered from drinking. I always say that just because you have an urge does’nt mean you have to act on it.
Report Post »AFeatherAdrift
Posted on March 4, 2012 at 1:43pmsnoopie, I guess there is a reason you take a dogs name. Such reasoning is both superficial and frankly rather silly. Read more, and include a book on critical thinking. It may be hard, but just ask an adult to explain the big words to you.
Report Post »TEMO
Posted on March 6, 2012 at 8:27amBigotry requires no support; there is enough circulating in this world already to last forever.
Report Post »noland
Posted on March 3, 2012 at 4:55pmSome people call other people Brainwashed, because the believe every Word in the Holy Book. Did you ever think maybe they are the ones that are Brainwashed by mans new law, over ridding Gods Law! Gods Word never changes and the Men and Women who Love Gods Word and Truth are Never going to be Bullied by these people to change thier hearts or minds. God Bless Kirk for standing up for your beliefs and Mine and many others. We will not sit down, not this time. He”s alive and well today and in your so called dark-ages, HE IS Still With US! Amen.
Report Post »Ari Ben TZion
Posted on March 3, 2012 at 4:56pmWhether one believes the Torah/Bible or not, homosexuality is still an unnatural act. How the hell would the species reproduce?
One other note, gay teenagers are about 300 % more likely to commit suicide than heterosexual teens.
Report Post »Ari Ben TZion
Posted on March 3, 2012 at 4:58pmG-d bless Kirk for having the courage to speak the truth.
Report Post »Lumbar Spine
Posted on March 3, 2012 at 5:09pmI don’t recall Jesus ever saying a word about homosexuality…but I do think he had a few words about rich people.
Ari Ben TZion
Posted on March 3, 2012 at 5:14pm@Lumbar Spine
Jesus was an orthodox Jew who believed everything in the Torah. Homosexuality is condemned in the Torah.
Think before you post.
Report Post »Cherynn
Posted on March 3, 2012 at 5:15pmWow he is smart and knows everything. Homosexuality is found in over 1,500 species. Homophobia is found in only one. Which seems unatural now? Recruiting and indoctrination, you folks crack me up.
Report Post »ModerationIsBest
Posted on March 3, 2012 at 5:16pm@LUMBAR SPINE
I always find it ironic that people who read a book that says, “Again I tell you, it is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle than for a rich man to enter the kingdom of God.”
is the same nation that has become the richest ever.
Even a Christian who is making 25,000 a year is richer then the majority of the people who walk this earth.
Report Post »carbonyes
Posted on March 3, 2012 at 5:19pmHomosexuality is an unnatural, aberrant act, and homosexuality is also destructive. Homosexuality and the practice thereof is a sin. Aids is a direct result of homosexuality and needs to natural death, but homosexuality and the practice thereof also leads to spiritual death. You will never find a practicing homosexual in the Kingdom of Heaven. You will find some who have accepted Jesus Christ, have been delivered of their sin of homosexuality and been set free. God condemns all sin, but has made a way out through Jesus Christ. Not man’s opinion, which matters not, but God’s law and Word, which is everything.
Report Post »angelcat
Posted on March 3, 2012 at 5:44pmCheryn, you do know the “eye of the needle” was a rather narrow gate, don’t you, and not the kind of needle you sew with? But just because it might be more difficult for the rich to enter heaven (more temptations and less reason to rely on God) that doesn’t mean that homosexuals can do so more easily than the rich.
Report Post »Therightsofbilly
Posted on March 3, 2012 at 5:45pmHey MOD,
Does your recipe for the correct amount of “Moderation” include a few large pinches of marxism?
Report Post »Cherynn
Posted on March 3, 2012 at 6:12pmangelcat, I am sure thats a real concern if you are Christian or Jewish but not everyone is and there is no law that says you have to be. I think people should keep thier religeons to themselves and quit trying to force thier beliefs onto others, ie, the taliban
Report Post »carbonyes
Posted on March 3, 2012 at 8:51pmLUMBAR SPINE, a little clue for you. You obviously don’t know much about the Bible, the Holy Spirit, or the anointing, and definitely not much about Paul, who has been called the greatest of the Apostles, even though he was not one of the original 12. The Word as spoken by St. Paul, has the full import and effect just as that which was spoken by Christ. Romans 1:27 And likewise also the men , leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust one toward another; men with men working that which is unseemly, and receiving in themselves that recompense of their error which was meet (due). Romans 1:28 And even as they did not like to retain God in their knowledge, God gave them over to a reprobate mind, to do those things which were not convenient;
Report Post »Romans 1:29 being filled with all unrighteousness, fornication, wickedness, covetousness, maliciousness; full of envy, murder, debate, deceit, malignity; whisperers,
Romans 1:30 Backbiters, haters of God, despiteful, proud, boasters, inventors of evil things, disobedient to parents,
Romans 1:31 Without understanding, covenant breakers, without natural affection, implacable, unmerciful:
Romans 1:32 Who knowing the judgement of God, that they which commit such things are worthy of death, not only do the same, but have pleasure in them that do them.
B_rad
Posted on March 3, 2012 at 11:30pmI have the utmost respect for people of profound faith. I don’t wish to force any person or organization to do anything against their faith. All I ask is to be left alone to live as I choose, free from interference from others and the govt. It is each man’s right to believe as he chooses without condemnation for his beliefs. It is when you use those beliefs to infringe upon the God-given rights of others that you have gone too far. I completely understand that the practice of homosexuality is considered a sin. It isn’t the only one. In fact, it didn’t make it into the top ten. We are not to legislate morality. It is a sin to covet your neighbors possessions or his wife, but those are not crimes. It is a sin to work on the sabbath, but it is not illegal. We are not a theocracy, and as such we have no business enforcing one set of religious beliefs upon the whole of the population.
I do have a question for all who are so vocal about the sin of homosexuality. Are you as vocal about the various other sins you come across in a day? Do you tell the wife cheating on her husband she’ll burn in hell? Do you refuse to serve the 16 y/o who is bopping his girlfriend when he comes to your store? Do you shun the 20 y/o girl who just had a baby with some no-name guy? Militant homosexuals are a problem, but they’re no worse than the 1000 different things you are bombarded with every day. If you think gays are so bad, I have two words for you: Jersey Shore.
Report Post »LETJOYANDINNOCENCEPREVAIL
Posted on March 3, 2012 at 11:31pmSome people have a natural desire to rape. Some people have a natural desire to molest children. Some people have a natural desire to have “relations” with animals. Some people have a natural desire to sleep with the same gender – or both genders. It still doesn’t make it right. It just means it‘s that person’s trial in life which needs to be overcome. We don’t act on the things that go against God, even if we want to or feel a “natural” desire to do so. That’s why God has laws and asks us to be obedient.
Report Post »B_rad
Posted on March 4, 2012 at 12:30am@LetJoy, I believe you are right, and there are many, many things we do that we are not supposed to. Since we are all sinners, I can safely say that you do not always follow God’s laws, though you try your best to be a good person. If we could be without sin, Jesus would not have had to die for our sins. Now, take the everyday sins you commit and compare that to the attraction you feel for your spouse. Imagine feeling the way you do about the opposite sex for those of the same sex. You know the desire is wrong, but it is there, nonetheless. Were you to be saddled with those feelings, you may be strong enough to live your entire life without acting on them, but remember, you can’t go a whole day without committing some type of minor sin. A white lie, a bit of gossip, a little envy. Since you can’t go very long at all without committing some sin, imagine going your entire life w/o the physical love of another. That would be a truly sad life w/o making the sacrifice for some greater calling, such as the clergy. Since I’ve never felt that calling, denying myself a partner relationship for life seems fairly cruel to me.
Report Post »Now, you compared the desires to rape, molest, etc, with the desire for a homosexual relationship. While the desires may be equal, along with every such desire, the actions certainly aren’t. Two consenting adults behaving in a way that comes naturally to them causes no harm to another. Victimizing an innocent is far, far worse.
AFeatherAdrift
Posted on March 4, 2012 at 1:52pmWell you can claim that your particular translation of the bible is the “only” correct one, and you can claim that your interpretation of what it contains is the “only” correct one, but unfortunately for you, tens of millions don’t agree with either your translation nor your interpretation. So where do you think that leaves “correct” in the equation? Hint: it’s your opinion only. And just for the record, no more than 20 of you folks that claim the bible is God’s perfect word have ever bothered to read the entire thing. Funny when it is supposed to be the greatest book every “written” or assembled, as it were.
Report Post »AFeatherAdrift
Posted on March 4, 2012 at 2:00pmARI, think before you post. What is condemned in Leviticus is not homosexuality, a concept unknown in those times, but ritualistic temple sex that was the basis of some other non-Jewish religions. And that still doesn’t answer the very real question that was posed. Jesus said nary a word about “homosexuality” but did speak a good deal about a number of things that were not longer required by God. Torah was not something he adopted fully. As anyone who remembers that he chastized the Pharisees constantly for. Healing on the sabbath, gleaning from the fields on the sabbath, consorting with the unclean, sinners. The list is quite extensive of all the violations of Torah he committed. So as I said, READ, STUDY and make some small attempt to understand before you speak.
Report Post »From Virginia
Posted on March 4, 2012 at 4:24pm@Lumbar Spine – Christ had nothing to say about rich people. He had a LOT to say about stingy, heartless people who ONLY cared about their wealth. Big difference.
Report Post »tarm778
Posted on March 4, 2012 at 6:45pm@ Lumbar.
Your ignorance is shinging thru yet again.
Jesus never said anything regarding homosexuality so that must make it okay, right?
Report Post »Not if you consider the facts.
Jesus also never said anything about rape, incest or domestic violence. Are those things okay, too?
There are many teachings and deeds of Christ that are not included in the Gospel accounts, as John writes in John 21:25.
Christ did say that God created people “in the beginning” as male and female, and that marriage is the union of one man and one woman joined together as “one flesh.” (Matthew 19:4-6 and Mark 10:6-9) Nothing whatsoever else is said about any other type of union.
When Jesus discussed sexual morality, Christ had a very high standard, clearly affirming long-standing Jewish law. He told the woman caught in adultery to “Go and sin no more.” John 8:11. Jesus warned people not only that the act of adultery was wrong, but even adulterous thoughts. Matthew 5:28
And he shamed the woman at the well John 4:18 by pointing out to her that he knew she was living with a man who was not her husband.
Finally, the apostles, who were taught by Christ, clearly understood that homosexuality was a sin as it has always been. When you say, “Jesus said nothing about homosexuality,” you reveal that you really have never understood Scripture beyond the usual deceptive liberal theological spin.
USPATRIOT101
Posted on March 3, 2012 at 4:53pmWhat makes Kirk so wrong and Chaz Bono so right?
Report Post »Ari Ben TZion
Posted on March 3, 2012 at 5:00pmChaz Bono is part of the Hollywood, Bolshevik machine – that’s why her aberrant behavior is accepted.
Report Post »Chuck Stein
Posted on March 3, 2012 at 5:25pm@ Ari
Report Post »Thanks for using the correct word (“her”) when referring to Chaz Bono. One very bright woman I know once said about men who had undergone a “sex change” operation: “They are NOT women. I am a woman. They are amputees.”
jarhead69
Posted on March 3, 2012 at 5:53pmto hell with GLADD and the GLBT community
Report Post »Micmac
Posted on March 3, 2012 at 5:54pm@ Chuck
Report Post »I agree. “Amputee.”
Montereyzman
Posted on March 3, 2012 at 4:53pmI will stand with Kirk …. Homosexuality is a Sin and Perverse !!!
Report Post »hatchetjob
Posted on March 3, 2012 at 5:09pmAmen to that! These must be the last days.
Report Post »ModerationIsBest
Posted on March 3, 2012 at 5:19pmPeople have been saying that for generations. How egotistical and self centered of you.
Report Post »Therightsofbilly
Posted on March 3, 2012 at 5:49pmHey MOD
How many generations?
Report Post »JJ Coolay
Posted on March 4, 2012 at 4:54amYes they have Moderation.. since the beginning of the church when Jesus told them He would return.
Report Post »But how is it egotistical??
ModerationIsBest
Posted on March 4, 2012 at 2:11pm@JJ COOLAY
Much the same way how the early church thought that the Earth was the center of the universe and fought against people who had evidence contrary to their teachings.
Religion in itself is egotistical in the sense that people think God singled out humans for a specific purpose, a relationship with God. Why do you think a lot of fundamentalist are against the idea of evolution? Because they conclude that if we’re just evolved, that God didn’t “create” us for a specific relationship with him.
It’s egotistical in the sense that, “Oh I‘m so important that the world will end while I’m alive” just like I find it ironic in every election you have people saying, “This is the most important election of our lifetime!”
It’s human nature to think things revolve around you, and that you are more important then you really are.
A lot of people believe in Heaven, just because they can‘t accept the possibility that we’re here for a short time, and then just die and lose everything that we gained during this lifetime. They think, “well if I can’t have this for eternity, what’s the point in having it now?” That kind of thinking is illogical and irrational, but that’s usually what “beliefs” are based around. Irrational fears not based in logic, reasoning, and common sense.
Report Post »tarm778
Posted on March 4, 2012 at 6:52pmI’ll stand with Kirk also.
The people at GLAAD show the exceptional reason why moral debate is impossible with militant homosexuals and progressive liberals, They are more interested in stereotyping and blacklisting people of faith that stand for their beliefs rather than show the self-professed “tolerance” they claim to have for people that hold different opinions. Their tactics are simply mindless rhetoric based on nothing but a silly attempt at argument with no meaning and no evidence
Report Post »Caballosinnombre
Posted on March 3, 2012 at 4:52pmIts refreshing to hear about someone telling it like it is.
Report Post »PASSIONFORCHRIST
Posted on March 3, 2012 at 4:58pm“GLAAD’s senior director of programs at GLAAD. “Cameron is out of step with a growing majority of Americans, particularly people of faith who believe that their gay and lesbian brothers and sisters should be loved and accepted based on their character and not condemned because of their sexual orientation.”
READ THE WORD! THEY CONDEMN THEMSELVES!!!!!!!!
Report Post »Onowicit
Posted on March 3, 2012 at 5:06pmso true. brave man.could we call him a missionary to hollywood?
Report Post »bloptop
Posted on March 3, 2012 at 7:39pmHey numb nuts if homosexuality is so unnatural, why do so many humans and animals engage in it?
Report Post »jtsooner
Posted on March 3, 2012 at 10:28pmIt’s your choice if you want to take your moral direction from animals. Me and my family take ours from Jesus Christ. I saw a dog eating his own crap today, maybe you should try that.
Report Post »JJ Coolay
Posted on March 4, 2012 at 4:58amJT.. well said.
Report Post »I don’t get how people justify something because an animal does it.
That makes no sense.
Biff Marupis
Posted on March 4, 2012 at 9:00amThink about it….sometimes they DO end up eating their own crap! Yuck!
Report Post »CounterStrike
Posted on March 4, 2012 at 10:31amThere’s a big difference between the animal kingdom and the human race. Animals do it because it’s in their nature. It’s not like only a few male dogs would hump your leg. Given the chance all male dogs would do it when in heat. They have to satisfy what is built into their nature. Humans do it for other reasons such as mental and/or physical deficiencies. Both of these aliments lead to choice. Their desires for the same sex are stronger but it is still a choice. When sin entered the world it also caused physical ailments which can lead to lust for the same sex. When a person chooses to murder it can be the result of sin such as hatred or jealously or a medical problem such as being born a sociopath. With this said when someone has an ailment such as cancer they seek medical attention and if they believe in God they will seek spiritual help. Simply put, if a person chooses to engage in this behavior then they need physiological help. If they have too much testosterone or estrogen or other factors then they need medical help!
Report Post »Truthurts
Posted on March 4, 2012 at 12:51pmJT, that was LOL funny! And poignant.
BLOP, humans are the only species with the intellectual ability to not only recognize that homosexuality is wrong, but to also have the intellectual strength to resist the tendency. I suppose that means that those that cannot resist are apparently weak. Ironic that so many homosexuals seem to see themselves as somehow superior. I assume that includes you, BLOP.
COUNTERSTRIKE, for the record. Some female dogs like to hump legs, too.
Report Post »spirit of freedom
Posted on March 5, 2012 at 12:41pm@ calm voice of reason
Report Post »wrong! you dont think that homosexuality or any kind of deviant behavior has caused any civilizations to disapeer? maybe you should for your next vacation go book a trip to visit those five still burned out holes in the ground that were the 4 closest cities to and including Sodom and Gamora. check it out.
God the Almighty gets his way, which side will you be on? remain ignorant and Burn! or………
Razorhunters
Posted on March 3, 2012 at 4:51pmanimals do it to show domi-nance…
leader of the pack.
it is not genetic .
it is a human not with holding the urges.
it is indoctrination
it is genocide.
until a but babby pops out …will stand with my beliefs.
do i care who partners with whom…no, is none of my dam business.
Report Post »throw it in my face , it becomes my business.
fair2light
Posted on March 3, 2012 at 5:15pmI love the way Kirk is fearless in his beliefs. You know when truth hits home when you get attacked for speaking it. Homosexual is just not a healthy and normal behavior. He is loving his “gay” child by encouraging NOT acting out on all feelings. Self control. That people like glaad expect everyone to embrace their perversion is mean and hateful. Woe to those who call good evil and evil good.
Report Post »Razorhunters
Posted on March 3, 2012 at 6:04pmaye, cameron was impressive.
i liked this part best…” “Piers, you‘re speaking to a man …”
Report Post »MittensKittens
Posted on March 3, 2012 at 4:49pmKirk is right, it is unnatural, if you say anything to the opposite, you’re on crack! Women have the innys and men have the outys…If it were “natural” “nature” I call it GOD would have made men and women differently…You don’t see two male dogs going at it do ya!
Case Closed, NNEEEXXXXTTTTT!
Report Post »Razorhunters
Posted on March 3, 2012 at 4:55pmactually , one can see two males…is called domi-nance.
Report Post »ModerationIsBest
Posted on March 3, 2012 at 5:00pmhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2z-OLG0KyR4
LOL, you want these guys representing you?
Report Post »Azeebabee
Posted on March 4, 2012 at 12:20amWay too funny, all your arguments are based on a fiction. There is no god, fact. You are all scared, threatened homophobs, fact. Now attack me, I need a good laugh.
Report Post »Bad_Ashe
Posted on March 4, 2012 at 1:36am@MOD
Read AZEEBABEE’s post. This is a great example of an assertion that needs to be philosophically supported, even if it is in the negative. Outside of it being demonstrably false, I’m pretty sure he lacks the intellectual mettle to properly support it at any rate.
Cheers!
Report Post »Razorhunters
Posted on March 4, 2012 at 6:16amaz,
Report Post »i would comment ,btu you left no facts to counter…
Oneofthefew
Posted on March 3, 2012 at 4:48pmIt’s quite simple, the Bible explicitly speaks against homosexuality, any person can either believe it or be wrong on judgement day when God proves He doesn’t move off the word He has spoken no matter the “social progression” man has. Sadly the majority of Christians have become spineless in the boldness of the Word or they just aren’t real Christians and too rebellious to have an authority reject a lifestyle they desperately want to live.
Report Post »Razorhunters
Posted on March 3, 2012 at 4:53pmseem to remember something about an abomination…
Report Post »ModerationIsBest
Posted on March 3, 2012 at 4:59pmDo not plant two kinds of seed in your vineyard; if you do, not only the crops you plant but also the fruit of the vineyard will be defiled.
Do not wear clothes of wool and linen woven together.
If a man takes a wife and, after lying with her, dislikes her, and slanders her and gives her a bad name, saying, “I married this woman, but when I approached her, I did not find proof of her virginity, then the girl’s father and mother shall bring proof that she was a virgin to the town elders at the gate.”
You know that your whole homosexuality as an abomination is in the same book as all of the stuff above?
Report Post »Razorhunters
Posted on March 3, 2012 at 5:08pmyo, i just said i seem to remember…
i do not go by a book that was written and re-written by man.
you want to bump uglies go ahead…your dam life.
Report Post »Lumbar Spine
Posted on March 3, 2012 at 5:10pmAnd, of course, Jesus just flat out denounced homosexuals. No, wait…nevermind.
Report Post »fair2light
Posted on March 3, 2012 at 6:48pmActually ray comfort is spot on. His statement that a picture/painting is proof that there was a picture/painter. As the analogy of the precision of a banana as perfect finger food is proof of a designer is also true. So we humans which are by being made so complex of a design are proof of a designer/God. And one day you will be accountable to that designer. That is the heart of ALL anti God people. You want to do whatever you want with no consequence. Your anger is really fearful delusion as your own conscience condems you. Deep down if a **** is honest knows his perversion is wrong, so to strike down all and any who exposes his ‘sin’, is understandable. God will punish all sin where ever its found folks. Lying, stealing, murder, adultery, sin, however small will be accounted for by all of us. 10 Commandments are written on all our hearts/conscience. That is just the truth of this life. God is love and if he is just he will punish all sinners. That is what the gift of Jesus is all about He took all that wrath on his person for all of us. But like all gifts you have to accept it and if you do you will have such gratitude and appreciation for Him, that your life will reflect the goodness of God. Not in perfection yet but ever changing into it. That said…If you think that homosexuality is OK, then you haven’t seen the sacrifice/gift of just what price was paid for you to stand before a Holy God/the Creator and live.
Report Post »ModerationIsBest
Posted on March 3, 2012 at 7:03pm@FAIR2LIGHT
HAHAHA, wow. Completely illogical, yet “he’s right.” Give me a break.
Report Post »Git-R-Done
Posted on March 5, 2012 at 2:36pmLumbar Spine – Read Matthew 10:15.
Report Post »Snowleopard {gallery of cat folks}
Posted on March 3, 2012 at 4:47pmStand for what is right and true as the world is on the edge of madness.
Report Post »fair2light
Posted on March 3, 2012 at 7:27pmModerationisbest
Report Post »I completely understand. You have have to have your eyes opened by God himself to get it. That’s why it is a gift, no one can say ‘I am so brilliant I figured God out. :-)
doglady
Posted on March 3, 2012 at 4:40pmWay to go Kirk. I anxioulsy await you movie.
Report Post »Razorhunters
Posted on March 3, 2012 at 4:40pmDaylight: New film blasts Obama’s Israel record
Report Post »http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I-8oBzNiGaU&feature=player_embedded
Coonrapids
Posted on March 3, 2012 at 4:37pmHow dare he tell the truth. The left and the gay movement along with their black president want to destroy ever fabric of our society. VOTE, VOTE, vote them out of office. save our nation, gone in less than 270 days.
Report Post »ModerationIsBest
Posted on March 3, 2012 at 4:49pmKirk Cameron travels around and supports Ray Comfort, a guy who said that the way the Banana is “designed” is the “Atheists worst nightmare” and “proof” of a God.
Kirk Cameron fails to call the guy on this obvious illogical and nonsensical argument, which means he is too blinded by his agenda to distance himself from such a pathetic argument.
Report Post »Razorhunters
Posted on March 3, 2012 at 6:24pmyeah love the banana guy..,laugh all the time.
Report Post »Faith1029
Posted on March 3, 2012 at 10:05pmMODERATIONISBEST: “Kirk Cameron fails to call the guy on this obvious illogical and nonsensical argument, which means he is too blinded by his agenda to distance himself from such a pathetic argument.”
The man without the Spirit does not accept the things that come from the Spirit of God, for they are foolishness to him, and he cannot understand them, because they are spiritually discerned. 1 Corinthians 2:14
Report Post »ModerationIsBest
Posted on March 3, 2012 at 11:30pm@FAITH1029
Uh, the guy who “has the spirit” retracted his illogical argument. So much for the “fool”
Report Post »OccupyWashington
Posted on March 4, 2012 at 1:18amI‘m not familiar with the ’banana argument’, but anyone who thinks that the world was the result of an explosion, or some kind of freak accident is a totally lying fool…
Saying that the world and all of creation was an accident, is more stupid than saying that the computer you’re using to post on THEBLAZE happened as the result of an explosion. How much more intricately complex is creation than a computer?
Atheists still can’t prove what causes their involuntary organs to keep going… What makes the world keep going?
Einstein’s Theory of Relativity actually proved that the world is like a clock that was wound up by someone…. So who wound it up?
Report Post »OccupyWashington
Posted on March 4, 2012 at 1:34ambtw FAITH1029
Awesomely fitting verse!! Love it!
Report Post »Bad_Ashe
Posted on March 4, 2012 at 1:51am@MOD and @RAZOR
C’mon…really? Even Ray Comfort has long since admitted the banana argument was ill-formed. On the face of it, its not at all a bad argument for design in nature, and what most people don’t know is that Comfort was actually 100% right on his design argument, just not on the designer.
The modern banana was propagated by humans by way of cultivating a mutation. After a few generations of selective breeding….voila! Obviously Comfort didn’t know this, so it was not his best moment, but in the end Comfort was right in that the modern banana is designed, he simply misattributed his argument to the wrong designer.
Cheers!
Report Post »ZAP
Posted on March 3, 2012 at 4:37pmThere are laws from men and there are Gods laws.When there is a choice I pray all choose God,Those little beings are created in Gods imagine,
Report Post »DIVINEPROVIDENCE1776
Posted on March 3, 2012 at 4:36pmIt’s not place to judge, I leave that up to God. The Bible teaches love the sinner.
Report Post »DIVINEPROVIDENCE1776
Posted on March 3, 2012 at 4:39pm*my
Report Post »ChadMan
Posted on March 3, 2012 at 4:50pmBut, the Bible also teaches to hate the “SIN”(not the SINNER). Seems like some forgets that..
Report Post »Onowicit
Posted on March 3, 2012 at 5:21pmwe are not judging them, God did, does ,and will by his word. We are just repeating him and boldly so. I am so tired of self righteous Christians judging other Christians for Judging. If you are going to be a hypocrite at least get on the right side and condemn the condemned.
Report Post »Smokey_Bojangles
Posted on March 3, 2012 at 4:36pmCan’t argue with him on that.I am GLAAD that Kirk is not a pervert. I can about guarantee any where he goes to promote his movie in the liberal media all he will be allowed to talk about is perverts.
Report Post »Mr.Fitnah
Posted on March 3, 2012 at 4:35pmIm pretty sure people dont choose to be gay.
Report Post »Mr.Fitnah
Posted on March 3, 2012 at 4:38pmArizona Sheriff Paul Babeu, destroying the American way one illegal @ a time.
Report Post »Candertwin
Posted on March 3, 2012 at 4:53pmI don’t see how it is not a choice. Are you gay if you are attracted to the same sex and live a single life, or are you gay if you act on those attractions?
Report Post »AxelPhantom
Posted on March 3, 2012 at 5:09pmIf someone believes it is the way God made them, go ahead and be gay, no skin off my nose. That will be between you and your maker.
The problem is when you start saying that being gay must be accepted by the rest of society (and laws tailored) as “natural” when obviously it goes against our evolution. If it was natural, we would all be born hermaphrodites like earthworms, but instead we have girl parts and boy parts.
Report Post »mnymj
Posted on March 3, 2012 at 5:12pmthen your pretty wrong.
Report Post »crazyrightwingmom
Posted on March 3, 2012 at 5:16pmGay feelings are not asked for, but how you handle them is a choice. It is hard, but one does not have to act on them, and with good therapy, etc. etc., they can be diminished and hardly thought of at all. But do not condemn those who have these feelings…they are not born with them, but they did not ask for them.
Report Post »Onowicit
Posted on March 3, 2012 at 5:37pmi was born with a Strong desire to have sex with a lot of women and did for awhile. I did not choose this urge I was “born that way”, however I met God through his Son Jesus Christ and I learned from his word that I was born defective, I had a genetic proclivity for sin. I asked him to save me and now I yield to what he says is the RIGHT way to behave despite my leanings and desires. His way has work very well for me. One Woman.
Report Post »ModerationIsBest
Posted on March 3, 2012 at 10:57pm@ONOWICIT
Yes and your God built you defective. So much for intelligent design and love.
Report Post »OccupyWashington
Posted on March 4, 2012 at 1:29am@ MOD
We’re all going to die very soon, then we will see who’s right…. and who is wrong…
The point of this life, isn’t this life…. If you seek GOD, you will find HIM…. He is all we need, that’s the way HE designed us…
Report Post »JJ Coolay
Posted on March 4, 2012 at 5:03amModeration…. God did not build us with imperfections. That came when Adam separated himself from unity with God.
Report Post »Since that time, we’ve all been born in sin. That was not God’s fault.
Git-R-Done
Posted on March 4, 2012 at 3:01pmAny scientific evidence that you’re born homosexual?
Report Post »Welcome Black Carter
Posted on March 4, 2012 at 3:52pmI’m pretty sure there are plenty of people who choose to no longer be gay.
Report Post »ModerationIsBest
Posted on March 5, 2012 at 12:02am@JJ COOLAY
Got created the system.
God is all knowing
Therefore God built this system knowing Adam would introduce sin into the world
Therefore God built us defective.
It’s not that hard to take this stuff to their logical conclusions.
Report Post »formidable_foe
Posted on March 6, 2012 at 1:43am@ Mod,
God made us in His image, for His purpose, with the ability to reason, and with free will. Without free will, how else could we be held accountable for our sin? Anything created by God is exactly as it should be, i.e., without imperfection. Some of the choices man makes via free will may lead some men to call others “defective,” but this is a human judgment. God doesn’t look at us as defective, even though I‘m sure He isn’t always happy with our choices. He loves us and want us to love Him.
Report Post »ErinLindsey
Posted on March 3, 2012 at 4:31pmFor thousands of years, it’s been taught that homosexuality is wrong and a sin. Twenty or thirty years of trying to make it seem “normal” isnt going to change everyone’s minds about it immediately.
Report Post »Jenny Lind
Posted on March 3, 2012 at 4:45pmOr ever.
Report Post »HKS
Posted on March 3, 2012 at 4:53pmEven if you call it Happy?
Report Post »JJ Coolay
Posted on March 4, 2012 at 4:59amOr ever… exactly.
Report Post »TEMO
Posted on March 6, 2012 at 8:24amBeing GAY is not a choice; it IS part of the natural selective process. Quit obsessing over it; accept it; it ain’t going away. Christians, embrace your fellow “gay” counterparts; they are here to stay. If your Christianity, or bigotry, will NOT allow you to accept the GAY community, then perhaps you shouldn’t define yourself as one. WHAT ARE YOU AFRAID OF? It’s not a disease; it‘s a natural lifestyle that won’t hurt a hair on your head. FEAR bad politicians, fathers who abandon their children, mothers who neglect their family, drug smugglers, wall street manipulators; put your hate and frustration to some better good!
Report Post »Infidel49
Posted on March 3, 2012 at 4:30pmWow, he is on the blacklist now.
Report Post »janedough1
Posted on March 3, 2012 at 4:47pmHe was already there. He dared to turn his back on Sodom and Gomorrah (nee Hollywood and New York) and become an Evangelical Christian, a husband and father, and a successful man in a way that doesn’t involve drunkeness, drugs and meaningless sex. Kudos to this man for his courage. He can be blacklisted by Hollywood all he wants. Who needs them? I haven’t bought a Hollywood movie in years, but I‘ll buy Kirk Cameron’s. I can’t wait.
Report Post »One Man Progressive Wrecking Crew
Posted on March 3, 2012 at 4:30pmTHIS said it all ““Just because you feel one way doesn’t mean you should act on everything you feel.”
That, or self control, is antithesis to the liberal worldview. Their motto and life creed is “if it feels good do it and make someone else pay for it or it’s consequences”
Report Post »CatB
Posted on March 3, 2012 at 4:35pmYes .. especially 30 year old college students who are having so much sex they are going broke paying for birth control ;-)
Report Post »ModerationIsBest
Posted on March 3, 2012 at 4:50pm@CATB
Do you know how birth control(specifically) the pill works?
Report Post »CatB
Posted on March 3, 2012 at 5:02pmAs a matter of fact I do know how the pill works and I know that it costs less than $1,000 per year …also it does NOT protect against disease so I would hope that she is using something besides just the pill .. that is the only way to get to the $1,000 per year .. btw did you know that Planned Parenthood has reduced price contraceptives ??? I suggest she check that out ..
Report Post »CatB
Posted on March 3, 2012 at 5:39pmhttp://www.theblaze.com/stories/sandra-fluke-a-fake-victim-of-georgetowns-policy-on-contraceptives/
she is a fraud .. as suspected all along.
Report Post »islamhater
Posted on March 3, 2012 at 4:30pmI agree with kirk. No more queers….
Report Post »OccupyWashington
Posted on March 3, 2012 at 4:30pmDaaah!!! LOL
Everybody knows it, its just politically incorrect to say it….
Report Post »chameleonx
Posted on March 3, 2012 at 4:25pmHow can someone say homosexuality is unnatural when it is genetic and has been observed in many animals. If I can describe Kirk Cameron in one word it will be brainwashed. Kirk Cameron has to be one the most confused people who target people who are confused. Leading people into a dark age.
Report Post »cyclops
Posted on March 3, 2012 at 4:31pmKudos to Kirk Cameron for saying what he believes…….Not getting swayed to the left….Way to go…..
Report Post »ThankYouFounders
Posted on March 3, 2012 at 4:32pmActually, there has never been a genetic link proven. Just theorized. Secondly, even if it was genetic, it still isn’t an “excuse”. We are put here to reproduce (among other things) and even if the person has a genetic failure then they should work to get around it.
Report Post »islamhater
Posted on March 3, 2012 at 4:32pm@CHAMELEONX: Anyone who fall’s for this DNA/Genetic Jean BS is a fool. It’s a CHOICE!!!! and a sick one to.
Report Post »justangry
Posted on March 3, 2012 at 4:32pmHave they identified the gay gene?
Report Post »OccupyWashington
Posted on March 3, 2012 at 4:33pmhomosexuality is not genetic, thats a progessive lie trying to use ‘science’ to promote their agenda!! It’s perverted!!
And CAMELENOX, animals also eat eachother…. So would you advocate that cannibalism is also ‘natural’?
Report Post »snooop1e
Posted on March 3, 2012 at 4:36pmI have a question for Kirk and all Evangelicals. Is all sin the same? In other words is there such a think as sin that leads to death (1 John 5:16-17) Evangelicals will say that once you accept Jesus Christ as your personal Lord and Savior you can never loose your salvation (accept living the homosexual lifestyle that is) Evangelicals will say once you are “saved” you will no longer be gay. But does that mean that once you are “saved” you no longer sin? According to this theology that means that once someone is “saved” they never agian look at a person lustfully or entertain lustful thoughts, they never lie, they never commit adultery, they never steal, in effect they become sinless. I think all Evangelicals will agree this is not true. Actually they say that even though you sin, no matter how grave the sin, Jesus paid the price for your sins so you are forgiven if you only believe in Him, ACCEPT of course if you are gay. If you are really saved you won’t be gay anymore. Being gay according to Evangelicals is the ONE sin that won’t be forgiven. It’s a major contradiction in the Once Saved Always Saved theology. So which is it? Is there a difference between having a lustful thought (a venial sin) and having sex with the same gender (a mortal sin – which leads to death)? Either there are venial and mortal sins or even Gays are saved once they have accepted Jesus Christ, you can’t pick and choose, so which is it? Crickets……..God Bless
Report Post »Ookspay
Posted on March 3, 2012 at 4:43pm@chameleonix, Did you just compare your queer liberal brethren with animals? I have nothing to add.
Report Post »VTDave
Posted on March 3, 2012 at 4:44pmAre you also of the mind that pedophilia is natural? Pedophilia and beastiality along with other degenerate sexual preferences can all be “claimed” to originate from genetics. However, even if true, these acts should not be condoned any more than the urge to rob a bank. Just because our damned dogs try to hump anything they can does not make it right. If you, and others like you, believe that “growing up” involves accepting some of the most disgusting human behavior as “normal” then you will have to accept the rest as they attempt to get their “rights”. Are you ready to state, for the record, that you accept all sexually deviant behavior as “normal” and as such anybody engaging in them should be granted, without reservation, any and all rights they attempt to extort from the rest of society?
Report Post »janedough1
Posted on March 3, 2012 at 4:44pmMany say that alcoholism is genetic too. I’ve seen animals consume spoiled fruit on the ground until they were clearly intoxicated. That doesn’t mean you have to give full expression to those genes. That doesn’t mean its good for you, or will lead to a healthy or meaningful existence. It doesn‘t mean that you can’t choose to live differently, and have a better life by doing so.
Report Post »chameleonx
Posted on March 3, 2012 at 4:47pm@SNOOOP1E: Interesting question. There was one time I talked to a Christian who is bisexual. He mentioned there was nothing against his faith with being bisexual. Of course with religion everything is up to interpretation. With many, many Christians throughout the world everyone plays their cards differently.
Report Post »Ookspay
Posted on March 3, 2012 at 4:53pm@Snoop, No worries mate! Just confess your sins after each but t drilling session and if you time it just right you may be forgiven. I make sure I ask for forgiveness after each and every sin, just in case I die in the interim. Nimrod…
Report Post »MyAgendaIsTruth
Posted on March 3, 2012 at 4:54pmThe prime directive of any organism on earth (or in the universe for that matter) is? To reproduce. Without reproduction we cease to exists. Take God out of it. Take morals out of it. It’s an abnormality against nature. Lots of damaged genes or DNA happen – but that doesn‘t mean it’s a good thing.
Plus just remember what did in the mighty Greek & Roman civilizations. Do we want to follow in their footsteps?
Report Post »chameleonx
Posted on March 3, 2012 at 4:58pmWhat I always find funny debating about homosexuality is that people will play the pedophile card or zoophilia card. You have to draw up a better opinion than that. I can use the same logic with heterosexuality. The discussion on why Kirk Cameron sees “homosexuality is unnatural and destructive.” I have responded with a well though out post with links about study in homosexuality and bisexuality in animals and humans. Science is in support that both bisexuality and homosexuality is normal. Many years ago it was common to associate aids with gay people. But today everyone can contact aids because they can unprotected sex with a unclean partner. So, you can see throughout the years with scientific and psychological studies we’ll understand better of same-sex in humans.
Report Post »carbonyes
Posted on March 3, 2012 at 5:07pmCHAMELEONX, a Christian does not have a deck of cards from which to play. The world has a deck of cards to play, and every card is a loser. The true Christian has a road map to go by and it is called the Word of God, also known as the Bible. Sometimes every Christian falls short and strays from that road map, but repentance and forgiveness through the shed blood of Jesus Christ will put the Christian back upon that road map and enable him to finish the race.
Report Post »Oneofthefew
Posted on March 3, 2012 at 5:10pmSnoop, the Evangelical theology you have presented in itself is wrong, number one God set an example of Sodom and Gamorrha being burned to ashes because of His hatred of homosexuality. Number two if a person believes once saved always saved that’s wrong too, once you become saved you are expected to grow in Christ thus resulting in reducing the sinful lifestyle you once had that’s God grace is His divine empowerment to help you live a life free of sin my choosing to sin less and less all sin is bad but God does consider homosexuality an abomination all men can choose to live for Christ and take on His holy lifestyle, there are no crickets in your statement there’s just alot of immature unstudied Christians and that sucks because it misleads a lot of people.
Report Post »chameleonx
Posted on March 3, 2012 at 5:16pm@CARBONYES: I would have to respectfully disagree. There are many Christian denominations throughout the world; as well religions who use Christianity in some form. To me Christianity is a man-made religion.
Report Post »Valerius Poplicola
Posted on March 3, 2012 at 5:17pmHomosexuality being genetic is a theory that has never become a fact except in the minds of desperate homosexuals looking for anything that will say they are not responsible for their behavior. Per the two scientists that gay activists love to quote, Dean Hamer and Simon LeVay both have stated they have not found a genetic link to homosexuality.
Here is a quote from Simon LeVay:
“It’s important to stress what I didn’t find. I did not prove that homosexuality is genetic, or find a genetic cause for being gay. I didn’t show that gay men are born that way, the most common mistake people make in interpreting my work. Nor did I locate a gay center in the brain.”
Brainwashed : “subjected to intensive forced indoctrination resulting in the rejection of old beliefs and acceptance of new ones.” (Dicitonary.com)
“Any method of controlled systematic indoctrination, especially one based on repetition or confusion.”
So a brainwashed person would ignore facts and trump them with new ideology. Are you sure it is Kirk Cameron who is brainwashed? Do homosexuals not present the very definition of indoctrination by the repetition of a lie that it is genetic?
News flash for all humanity, gay or straight, only God makes truth, and he decided a long time ago that homosexuality is not normal, it is a rejection of natural order. You can choose to engage in homosexual behavior, and you can indoctrinate the world to accept, but it will still be wrong because man doesn’t m
Report Post »OccupyWashington
Posted on March 3, 2012 at 5:18pm@SNOOPIE
Only those who truly REPENT and BELIEVE are saved. The Christian lifestyle is diametrically opposed to the homosexual lifestyle…. If you are truly repentant this means you are sorry for your sins and you realize that sin seperates you from God. If you truly believe, its not just a headfake, it means that you want to live out your faith in the LORD. This means you want to please HIM and sin should be repulsive to you, not that you will never sin again, but when you do you continually repent and confess your sins, daily…. The homosexual lifestyle is full of sin and debauchery, so people living in this SELF centered, sinful life style are not truly REPENTANT, and are do not really BELIEVE, because they are not LIVING what they proffess. True Christians love pleasing their SAVIOR, not giving into all kinds of fleshy desires to please themselves. Walk + talk = True Christian.
Report Post »Female
Posted on March 3, 2012 at 5:23pmIf it is genetic, it is a genetic abnormality or defect but it is in the hormonal regulatory system. More often than not, the strongest component affecting the choice can be found in events or perversions perpetrated by others in their environments. Including: rape, incest, molestation, lustfulness of others directed at child, manhate esp. during pregnancy, smothering mothering, talents which are exploited by the gay community, and extreme activity in competitive altheletics during formative years (increased testosterone?).
“unnatural” I would prefer calling it, unproductive or unfruitful. Man and man cannot make baby and Woman and woman cannot make a baby, therefore, unproductive and unfruitful. Man and woman productive and fruitful.
Even the genetic can find a suitable mate of the opposite sex by a femine guy marrying a masculine gal, they can be fruitful, the basic parts will fit together as intended and psychologically they will compliment one another.
Validating it with examples in the animal kingdom doesn’t work because what is most likely happening is a female is in heat and the humping male is excited but would get killed by the stud or even the female (desire for the strongest specimen), so the lesser males (younger, smaller, weaker)
Report Post »are dealing with the itch. Or the female is/are in heat and no male to service…..in both cases the animal would prefer to have their heat satisfied as pro-creation.
John Clark
Posted on March 3, 2012 at 5:29pm@SNOOP1E Almost all of what you say is absolutely true… BUT once we confess the sin we have to turn away or repent for the sin and try to stop doing it. Only God knows the heart but how would you feel if your child came to you and said I am sorry for doing that and I realize that it is wrong and I will no longer do it anymore and then your child continues to do the thing that, it kind of draws a question to the original intent of the confession and if you truly accepted the salvation or not. Right?
Report Post »momprayn
Posted on March 3, 2012 at 5:42pmSNOOOP1E – No crickets here. With all due respect, you’re not knowledgeable enough about the denominations in “Christendom”. “Once saved..” not true of others, such as the one I was brought up in – considered “nondenominational”. I (and they) don’t believe or teach that. We believe you CAN “fall from grace” after being “saved” IF you decide to turn your back on Jesus and continually live a sinful life w/no repentance – scriptures to prove that. You can’t just use some scriptures to come to the truth on any topic, you have to use all scriptures, in context on that topic. They all have to agree if the Bible is indeed from God and infallible. You’ll find they do if you study well with an open mind. Frankly, it bothers me greatly that this and other false teachings are taught – very harmful and lead to what you said…confusion & revulsion. The one unpardonable sin is the rejection of the gospel, Jesus/Holy Spirit. Re homosexuality is the one – if you’re serious – wrong again. Never heard that in my life. You may think that by what others have mistakely said, but that’s totally unbiblical. Degrees of sin? Yes – there are degrees of punishment accordingly; this one is considered one of the “worse” ones; but ANY sin is condemned. Yes, they can be saved like anyone but may not “change” preferences, but God will help you deal with it ok – you must stop the practice.
Report Post »It’s only the practice, not the preference – like heteros. Greatly misunderstood.
SchoeneTante
Posted on March 3, 2012 at 5:56pmMy dogs love to eat cat poop. Perfectly natural. Also, my male dog (neutered) humps his sister (also neutered). Perfectly natural. So go for it, is that it?
Are you saying that homosexuals have no ability to control when and if they have sex, and who they have it with? If they see someone attractive, can they rape them because they can’t help who they are? That’s ridiculous. That sounds like the sort of argument child molesters would use.
There is no such thing as a “gay gene.”
Report Post »HairRazor
Posted on March 3, 2012 at 6:24pmChameleonx..?… “Brainwashed” or brainsoiled.. that is to believe homosexuality is normal.. it’s a slippery slope (or vault.. that being the exit chamber of the colon) an ever increasing number are falling in line with.. the categorey of the doomed (those seperated from God.. by choice). wake up if you can.
Report Post »sodacrackers2
Posted on March 3, 2012 at 8:18pmWe are entering into a dark age where only a few are not afraid to speak the truth. God bless Kirk Cameron!
Report Post »GeoMax
Posted on March 5, 2012 at 12:27pmThe human race is the only “animal” who shows homosexual tendancies, further proof that it is a choice, not genetically built into them.
Report Post »Soldier_FORTHERECORD
Posted on March 3, 2012 at 4:24pmOf course GLAAD wouldn’t believe anyone is entitled to an opinion other than one that supports their agenda.
Report Post »CatB
Posted on March 3, 2012 at 4:34pmYes .. free speech is only for those who agree and will support them .. otherwise it is boycott or try to destroy a person for their own beliefs. Mr. Cameron is only saying what he believes .. and I believe Piers Morgan is a pile of excrement.
Report Post »AJAYW
Posted on March 3, 2012 at 4:45pm@CatB
100% correct if you disagree with these idiots you are make out to be a bad person. its the liberals way or the highway to them…
Report Post »ModerationIsBest
Posted on March 3, 2012 at 5:02pmhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2z-OLG0KyR4
You people want this guy representing you? A guy who sat by while Ray Comfort tried to use the “design” of the banana as “proof” for a God?
Report Post »Faith1029
Posted on March 3, 2012 at 10:42pmMODERATIONISBEST: “You people want this guy representing you? A guy who sat by while Ray Comfort tried to use the “design” of the banana as “proof” for a God?”
God loves you very much Moderation. He created you, you are His child and He has a plan for your life. He is just waiting for you to turn to Him. If you truly want to know if He is real, ask Him, and if you are sincere, He will reveal Himself to you. Your anger demonstrates you are not at peace, but you can have that peace with the Lord. I will keep you in my prayers.
Report Post »disenlightened
Posted on March 3, 2012 at 4:23pmKirk has surprisingly grown up to be a fine young man.
Report Post »HKS
Posted on March 3, 2012 at 4:55pmOdd to see regular people in Hollywood.
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