Actual College Protester: Paul Ryan Not Really a Catholic Because He Believes ‘You Can Determine Your Own Fate’
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On April 26th, Catholic Congressman Paul Ryan gave an impassioned speech to students of Georgetown University, defending his budget and championing the principles of fiscal conservatism. The Blaze went down to interview some of those taking part in the highly publicized protests of the budget chairman’s appearance on the campus. There, we found a gaggle of Georgetown students, holding a sign that read “Stop The War On The Poor: No Social Justice in The Ryan Budget.”
The students had held the sign for over 45 minutes inside the auditorium where Ryan’s lecture was taking place. Once they moved outside The Blaze asked the question begged by the sign: “What makes the Ryan budget so antithetical to Catholic doctrine?”
One student-protester (far right, above picture) had a very hard time finding the words to defend her position that Ryan wasn’t a real Catholic, but insisted it was because he believes in “individualism” and that you”can determine your own fate.”
Watch the confusing, stream-of-conscious below (which also includes a statement that the poor don’t have “dignity”):
Stay tuned tomorrow for The Blaze‘s full report on the Georgetown/Paul Ryan Budget protests.
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AnotherWay
Posted on May 9, 2012 at 9:54amPaul Ryan should never have publicly embraced Ayn Rand. Rand got the motivational power of individualism right but missed the altruism piece that Adam Smith had. She did not believe in altruism, had low empathy, and was not a particularly nice person. This young lady is speaking to the philosophy of selfishness. Her heart is in the right place even if her words may not be.
Report Post »Sirfoldallot
Posted on May 9, 2012 at 10:29amHer brain is trained in our uneducated college, another barry troll.
Report Post »marvlus
Posted on May 9, 2012 at 10:41amAltruism is not something that big government can mandate. It comes from the heart. Paul Ryan is, in all likelihood, far more altruistic than the young woman.
Report Post »Weiners Wiener
Posted on May 9, 2012 at 11:19amBS. This clown vermin is just another know-it-all liberal who is sart enough to name drop Jesus in the hope that it will conceal her real intentions. She’s clearly no different than those knuckleheads on OWS. When she gets a job and starts paying taxes, she’ll be embarassed to know she opened that gaping maw of a piehole and dribbled such obnoxious nonsense on video where it will now live in perpetuity on th internet. For crying out loud, she used the term ‘social justice’. If that’s not a dead giveaway, I don’t know what is.
Report Post »Dishevel
Posted on May 9, 2012 at 12:05pmThe real problem is that we have lazy empathy.
Report Post »It is not true empathy to just throw money at a problem when you know the money just makes it worse.
Sometimes it is better for the other person if you stop short of doing things for them and only go to the point of making it possible for them to get out themselves.
It is nice to know though that if I lose my job and go broke that it will automatically force me to have no dignity.
eminence88
Posted on May 9, 2012 at 12:20pmAsk any one of those so called Catholic protestestors: Will you give all that you own and possess over to the Poor and follow Him?
These people are the malevolent mob doing the bidding of the modern Sanhedrin (used as a useful metaphor – not as an anit-semitic indictment.) In today’s context we recognize them as the Useful Idiots but they perceive themselves as the new Bolshevik van guard.
There is nothing more dangerous to society than these indoctrinated types who have been marinated in years of progressive socialist (neomarxist) theory.
Or another useful historical analogy – they are the moral equivalent of the “Good Germans” of the 20th Century. They are animated, politically, just enough to further the cause but utterly ignorant of its true purpose.
Report Post »Crazyotto
Posted on May 9, 2012 at 12:25pmHer words? she needs to try and string two sentences together… My question is where did she get her talking points?
Ayn Rand? yeah she could be a pretty nasty person..
Report Post »Patriot Z
Posted on May 9, 2012 at 4:53pmThe problem is her heart and her brain are NOT in the ‘right place’ Her argument makes no sense and even she is not sure what she is fighting against. She tries to string together slogans and things she heard because she has been brainwashed. Ryan and conservatives have no problems at all helping people, in fact we do it far more than liberals do (her included). even if her heart is in the right place, the people ccontrolling ‘heart is not. all they want is frees stuff and no responsibilities. this has less to do with helping the poor and mnore about people in power trainning weak minded, scared and self entitled children to be foot soldiers. We need to quit helping the enemy justify their actions. If given the chance they would enslave us. Hitlers heart was ‘in the right place’ stalins heart, ets….All dictators hearts are in the right place thats how they gain power in the first place. but convincing supporters they are owed by a common enemy and convincing their enemies that ‘their heart is in the right place’ the road to hell is paved with good intentions and i refuse to be subjigated by ‘well meaning dictators’
Report Post »PATTY HENRY
Posted on May 9, 2012 at 5:11pmREWIND !!! NOW hear this: Each one of us was created for a purpose known only to GOD, known before the creation of the world. NONE of us are accidents. We are all different.
THERE IS NO SUCH THING as COLLECTIVE SALVATION. (well, except in Communism, Islam maybe).
There has only been a ONE on ONE relationship between GOD and each one of us, ever. GOD wants each of us to come to Him on our OWN, by our own free will (which GOD gave us). THIS is the basis of everything.
Charity has nothing to do with the GOVERNMENT TAKING OUR MONEY and handing it out to others.
Liberals are certifiably insane. They think that they can loaf and the rest of us are going to go along with working and handing in our money to their government – bought and paid for with OUR TAX money…and that we’re going to keep working and letting them steal our money and waste it and pay for a bunch of dopes who have nothing more to accomplish in their lives than mooch off of us.
HERE IS THE QUESTION we all MUST ASK: YOU want more TAX MONEY from me? WHAT ARE YOU GOING TO DO WITH IT?
That’s the answer: WHAT ARE YOU GOING TO DO WITH IT?
I swear, I can‘t believe we’re talking about my AMERICA!!!
Report Post »PubliusMaximus
Posted on May 9, 2012 at 9:24pmThis poor creature cannot articulate Catholic belief on charity and the principle of subsidiarity, much less whether or not Paul Ryan and his budget adhere to Catholic teaching, but you‘re pretty sure that her heart’s in the right place.
Sure, Christ talked a lot about just how much the government should spend on the poor in their quest for dignity. *rolls eyes*
Sorry, friend, but she and thee are just lazy elitists excusing yourselves from the hard work of charity and being ministers of God’s lovingkindness. You look down with condescension (only slightly diluted with pity) on those who you call the poor, confusing personal charity with tyrannical welfare programs and warming yourself by the glow of your Progressive virtue.
What will you answer at the Throne? “And what did you for the least of Mine….?“ ”Hey, I paid my taxes!”
Report Post »silentwatcher
Posted on May 10, 2012 at 12:13amsomebody is not getting the money’s worth of education……to many cheap, easy credit bowling classes.
Report Post »AnotherWay
Posted on May 10, 2012 at 8:36amSorry I wasn’t clear. I don’t agree with her position. Empathy has a dark side when it disempowers people and creates dependency through welfare programs, etc. At the same time, there is no question that a certain percentage of business people are motivated solely by greed. When I said “her heart was in the right place” I meant that she was well-meaning and well-intention. It doesn’t help to demonize or ridicule people. We are called to “love our enemies.” If you want to influence this young ladies perspective–kindness and compassion is the best approach–not anger and ridicule.
Report Post »thebabyguy
Posted on May 9, 2012 at 9:54amWow!~ I am dumfounded by this dopey broad. I do hope, however, that her, like, mom and dad, are, like, you know, like really really proud of her for standing up for, like, her principles and stuff. When did Georgetown become a sewer of an institution? At least she has her individual freedom to speak and sound like a moron. Like, you know?
Report Post »johnjamison
Posted on May 9, 2012 at 10:39amShe truely is an idiot and has no idea of what the bible teaches. The bible teaches that we are responsible for our own destiny. And the best way to assure that is to live by God’s rules.
Report Post »darkknight91
Posted on May 9, 2012 at 11:37amYears after Hitler became entrenched in Germany and began his education process in schools and universities, his own officers complained that soldiers and support personnel coming up through the ranks were absolute idiots that could barely write their own names. Like abortion, liberal’s own methods are a detriment to their own agenda. They destroy the very ones they need to support their cause. It‘s like in the movie Braveheart when Longshanks has the archers fire on his own soldiers as they’re fighting the Scots. In hopes of killing the enemy, they’re willing to lose their own.
Report Post »Susycat
Posted on May 10, 2012 at 8:08amThat was the greatest video ever. I especially liked the soundtrack. I almost stopped laughing at this poor fool when I heard the music!
Report Post »airportengineer
Posted on May 9, 2012 at 9:43amUseful IDIOT!
Who’s paying her to waste her day “protesting” something that she has NO CLUE what she’s upset about!?!
Report Post »cher128
Posted on May 9, 2012 at 11:13amUseful idiot????……useless idiot.
Report Post »The educational system has been in the indoctrination/programing business for 2 generations.
What is coming out of our schools today from nursery to university are zombies conditioned for revolution.
As Lenin famously said, ” give me four years to teach the children and the seed I’ve sown will never be uprooted.”
Carol1955
Posted on May 9, 2012 at 9:41amHaving grown up quite poor, I never realized we lacked so much according to these yuppie bobbleheads. Maybe that’s a difference in rural poor vs urban poor. Maybe its because we didn’t have people constantly in our faces telling us we were victims who had no dignity. Maybe its because we had values and believed in working hard at whatever we were doing. These idiots have memorized all the key phrases and yet remain so inarticulate.
Report Post »barber2
Posted on May 9, 2012 at 9:40amWow. Is this person even a Catholic or just part of the Democrat Occupy/ Obama re-election militants ? The complete lack of understanding of basic Catholic doctrine is amazing. The dignity of the individual over the collective State is the cornerstone of doctrine. Something is fishy here….
Report Post »inblack
Posted on May 9, 2012 at 1:57pmI also question if she is Catholic.
She starts her inarticulate rambling by bearing false witness against Paul Ryan.
How is it that a 20 something Catholic can stand in judgement of another Catholic and declare him NOT Catholic?
Can the professors and faculty of Georgetown explain why after 100 years of forced, coerced charity and trillions of dollars spent on welfare there are more poor than when we started?
No I didn’t think so.
Report Post »Shiroi Raion
Posted on May 9, 2012 at 7:46pmMost everyone I knew growing up called themselves Catholic, but they never went to church. I saw a poll recently that said most Catholics vote Democrat.
Report Post »So umm like a lot of them are like umm just going with the flow… like you know like my teacher says I‘m smart if I agree with her and I umm like don’t wanna be like umm not smart, so I agree with whatever my union teacher like says.
marybethelizabeth
Posted on May 9, 2012 at 9:34amCatholic doctrine is::
There should be preferential treatment of the poor.
That is Church teaching.
You Keys are not all Catholic now, no matter what Mr. Beck says.
Report Post »barber2
Posted on May 9, 2012 at 9:52amExcuse me, but you are full of beans.
Report Post »JimL
Posted on May 9, 2012 at 10:00amChrist Keys bestowed to Peter?
Report Post »bccrane
Posted on May 9, 2012 at 10:11amMarybethElizabeth: I guess you need to define “the poor”, according to the US census I would be considered “the poor”, but I don‘t feel like I’m “the poor” and I am not looking for handouts from “the not poor”. And “preferential treatment” does that also mean that if a rich and a “poor” man are hit by the same car that I being a good Catholic should spit on the rich man and call an ambulance for just the “poor” man? I am not Catholic but am a Christian and it is by freewill and by my own disgression how I will help others as I see fit, what I take from your comment is that the gov’t has the right and must take from others even me to dole out the “preferential treatment” that is wrong and not the role of gov’t.
Report Post »JimmyP
Posted on May 9, 2012 at 11:18amCare to specify the New Testament verse that gives “preferential” “treatment” to the poor.
Let’s be clear, Jesus commanded us feed and clothe those in need. OK, give of your time and talent to this end. Don’t want to do so? Answer to Him.
Jesus commanded us to render to Caesar what is Caesar’s.
Nuff said.
PS This is what G-town produces? Sandra Fluke is in their Law school? K Sebelius is invited to talk on campus? No thanks, I’ll get my Catholicism elsewhere.
PPS Why do we have a Catholic Heirechy if they are unwilling to stand for Christ? This has repeatedly and deeply injured the Church in the recent past and here it is again.
Report Post »Silversmith
Posted on May 9, 2012 at 11:26amNah, sorry, that kid is a dummy – about as informed as you are mary.
Silversmith
Report Post »inblack
Posted on May 9, 2012 at 1:46pm@ME – you are wrong.
God would surely NOT condone stealing money from one person and giving it to another.
God Himself gave us free will.
God Himself gave us the commandment “thou shall not steal”
No matter how you try to interpret it God gave us free will. If God Himself who is all powerful did not force us to give to the poor, then how can we break his commandments and force people to give.
God did say, for those of us who believe, that if you do not help the least of these, you will burn in hell. I can’t see how voting for enslavement of the rich qualifies.
Therefore Ryan is correct. He is willing to stand up for the commandment “Thou shall not steal”, he respects free will and he give personally to charity.
Report Post »marybethelizabeth
Posted on May 9, 2012 at 4:00pmThe Catholic Church releases their teachings in Encyclicals.
Look it up.
Catholic Church teaching demands there be a preferential treatment of the poor.
This is fact. You may not agree with it, as representative Ryan obviously doesn’t, and you may construct rationalizations for yourself, or adopt the devil’s rationalization that a tax is theft, but that is what the Church teaches.
Report Post »Alessandre
Posted on May 9, 2012 at 9:30pmThe Catholic Church does not teach that “[t]here should be preferential treatment of the poor[]“ but ”preferential love for the poor.“ ”Preferential treatment” & “preferential option” have their roots in Latin American liberation theology which the Church has banned (though the term “preferential option” is still used). It does not mean the poor get free stuff but rather that “the Church shows a preferential love of the poor and voiceless, because the Lord has identified himself with them in special way.” So Catholics (& all Christians) are supposed to seek, as Jesus did, to love & serve the poor & those who can’t speak for themselves (babies in the womb, orphans, abused children, the elderly, the disabled, etc). How loves is a prudential decision. One size doesn’t fit all; changing welfare is not automatically evil. Recently the Holy Father (HF) has spoken against govt programs that fail to uphold the dignity of the poor by making them dependent on handouts. Work is good & necessary for us to be fully human. (The HF & some of the US bishops make opposing statements on this issue; the HF trumps opposing bishops.) Catholics need better guidance on Church social teaching but many US priests teach liberation theology-lite so we get voters who think welfare cuts are as important as abortion. We need faithful priests/teachers to provide guidance on social teaching & clarify what “prudential” means. Ryan’s budget is his prudential decision & that’s Catholic teachi
Report Post »brntout
Posted on May 9, 2012 at 9:34amHere’s what they are setting up… http://www.canadafreepress.com/index.php/article/46516?utm_source=CFP+Mailout&utm_campaign=fff6a66b0e-Call_to_Champions&utm_medium=email#.T6hIypKCTg4.email
Report Post »PCsince1776
Posted on May 9, 2012 at 2:42pmThis will not end well if things go this way.
My prediction is the U.S. Military will NEVER follow orders issued against American citizens particularly inside the U.S. itself. The current administration has no credibility with our military and the latest campaign stunt backlash is a huge sign of that fact.
True American patriots and conservatives outnumber the far left by overwhelming numbers. WE SURROUND THEM!
Between the U.S. military ands the patriots at then end of the day the far left does not stand a chance.
For some time now my feeling is that Obama would never permit a peaceful transition of power this fall. I do not think his personality will permit it. The hope is that regardless of all the distractions and violence that may break out and encouraged by the left the election moves FORWARD (wink, wink) and Obama is defeated by a wide margin.
I would caution though that things in this country will likely be tense after the election regardless of who wins.
Report Post »jujubeebee
Posted on May 9, 2012 at 9:30amStudent doesn’t understand individual salvation or free will. She is one of the ignorant, gullible ones that Obama is pulling the wool over her eyes. These young followers of marxist slogans have no idea they are the ones being played.
Report Post »Obama is using the young people to steal from to pay for everything.
He sold them out for Obamacare…raising the loan rates to pay for it and also causing their healthcare premiums to be raised to pay for the older people who need it, and adding a mandate to do it. The youth are the ones hurt the most by our Marxist in Chief and they are stupid to realize what is being done to them. Obama is counting on them being ignorant and gullible and voting for him again.
He has not helped anything that is affecting them and he is stealing from their futures. Half can’t get jobs because of his war on businesses. Prices on food, gas and goods have gone up dramatically because of his printing of money and causing the dollar’s worth to plunge. The youth are the ones being scr*wed and they are spouting “social justice” like little sheeple of Obama rhetoric. They need to WAKE UP!
Mapache
Posted on May 9, 2012 at 9:29amPlease do not confuse these “catholics” with Catholics. These protestors should be an embarrassment to Georgetown University if they are students……inarticulate, mush minded idiots is what they are.
Report Post »Gary S
Posted on May 9, 2012 at 10:00amGeorgetown went from Catholic to commie 50 years ago.
Report Post »kaydeebeau
Posted on May 9, 2012 at 9:25amIs this kid a Georgetown student or is she from a local middle / junior high school? I hope the latter. If it is the former, she her parents and we taxpayers supporting her loans) need to demand a refund since I fail to see a worthwhile return on the investment
Report Post »momrules
Posted on May 9, 2012 at 9:23amDid I hear that silly little girl say the poor does not have dignity? How wrong she is.
Honest poor people have great dignity. They struggle, they do without luxueries, they work hard, they raise decent children, go the church and help their neighbors. They give their thanks to God not government for their daily bread.
I am not Catholic but I don’t have to be to see that liberalism has clouded this girls mind.
Report Post »Walkabout
Posted on May 9, 2012 at 9:23amThe whole free will versus determinism argument is interesting.
There are (or were) good courses that a student could take to fulfill the mandatory electives (contradiction in terms) for humanities. There are concepts about free will which state that many decision of a person life are determined or heavily influenced but the person still has occasion to exercise free will. If a person does not believe inn free will than they are nothing mire than a rock or a biological computer.
What is the point then?
Report Post »tajloc
Posted on May 10, 2012 at 2:35pmOhhh! If I can only get enough free will to choose God then He’ll be happy….’cuz He wants me to choose Him. NO. He choose us before the beginning of the world. You make talk about free will but the Bible says free Grace. Thank God He chooses you because you have no ability to choose Him…You will always choose sin. That is what the Reformation was about. Solo scriptura. Romans 8:28…please read all of it.
Report Post »KayNewby
Posted on May 9, 2012 at 9:23amNobodys life is left to fate. It is determined by your choices. These kids have no idea what determines what your life is or what it will be. These people are the future of this country. Scares the heck out of me.
Report Post »jujubeebee
Posted on May 9, 2012 at 9:21amThe young people are being sold down the river by the Obama administration. The Democrats decided to up the student loan rate to pay for Obamacare when they passed it….allowing the students to pay a higher price for their tuition to pay for Obamacare, plus forcing those young people to pay a higher price for their healthcare to cover the cost of the older, and sicker group of people because young people are usually healthier and would thus have a lower rate if government were not interfering. On top of that they mandating buying it in addition to mandating that the youth pay a higher rate than they otherwise would have. THE YOUTH DO NOT UNDERSTAND they are being taken to the cleaners by this administration. The Obama people frame everything with lies and half-truths and figure the youth are stupid enough to buy into it. Their stategy is “perception” over “reality”. They do the same thing to the elderly, frame it like the Republicans are the evil ones. The Obama people are courting the ignorant, the lazy and the gullible. Hopefully people will wake up and actually look at the facts, read the bills and figure out the ramifications of those bills that are being rammed down our throats. The wolves in sheep clothing are fooling alot of people….the youth in particular. Study loan issue has been framed by those wolves incorrectly….just as Obamacare has.
Report Post »Walkabout
Posted on May 9, 2012 at 9:19am“individualism” and that people “can determine your own fate.”
If you don’t have free will, you cannot have sin. The church believes that man has sin.
This college (mis)educated woman would do well to take philosophy courses for some of her humanities sequences. However I think she took women studies or something equal disenlightening.
Report Post »PaxInVeritate
Posted on May 9, 2012 at 12:52pmThis college is Jesuit based. The Philosophy courses they offer will probably ingrain the “social justice teaching” being taught to her. I’m in full support of the Jesuit Order being disbanded. Shameful what they are doing… Teaching “Social Justice” (a.k.a Liberation Theology) is not traditional Church teaching. Better yet, throw out the current bums and bring in Benedictine Monks.
Report Post »Alessandre
Posted on May 9, 2012 at 9:39pm@PaxinVeritate – give them another 10 years & the current crop of faithful Jesuits will begin replacing the “liberation theology” teaching Jesuits. Things are changing, even in the Jesuit order. But it takes time & endurance.
Report Post »hillbillyinny
Posted on May 9, 2012 at 9:18amI’ll wait for the full report, but I imagine that these “puppet protestors,” trained by OWS, progressives and “social justice” clergy(!) will intone, “Blessed are the poor(.)” These will make demands as if that is the entire verse (Matthew 5:3).
However, the verse continues, “Blessed are the poor IN SPIRIT, FOR THE KINGDOME OF GOD BELONGS TO THEM.” The Beatitudes in Matthew 5 or SPIRITUAL STATEMENTS, not “social justice” statements–but no one will every point out the difference or “puppets” may become THINKERS!
Dear Lord teach us!
Report Post »hillbillyinny
Posted on May 9, 2012 at 9:30amSorry–need more coffee. . .
“These” = They
“Kingdome” = Kingdom
“or SPIRITUAL” = ARE SPIRITUAL
Report Post »JimL
Posted on May 9, 2012 at 9:50amHB, cafe en mano?
familiar w/ “K Marx to Jesus”, auto bio by Ignace Lepp?
“Communism is a witness to the unrealized work of Christians,” Nicholai Berdyaev wrote. And Chesteron said: “Communism draws its strength from Christian ideas gone mad.” What is true of communism is equally true for most of the other forms of modern, atheistic progressivism.”
Report Post »from Eppur si Muove, The Faith of Men, Meditations Inspired by Teilhard de Chardin, Ignace Lepp, 1967.
JimL
Posted on May 9, 2012 at 9:18amCatholic AND
Mary embracing the Child AND the Child Holds men, all.
Report Post »barber2
Posted on May 9, 2012 at 9:49amDear Lord..beginning to sound like TIM. Spare us.
Report Post »RSCAC
Posted on May 9, 2012 at 9:17amI think these college students need to pick up a new book….the Bible!
Report Post »JESSEBEGATDAVID
Posted on May 9, 2012 at 9:14amWhy do these fools keep denying the fact that they are in essence asking for communism?
Report Post »Individualism
Posted on May 9, 2012 at 9:13amor not really religious because it limits your rights like goverment does.
Report Post »kaydeebeau
Posted on May 9, 2012 at 10:47amwhere do rights come from?
Report Post »Steve28
Posted on May 9, 2012 at 9:13amWhat? Catholics believe in free will and not predetermination. These morons have no clue, but hey they are young and idealistic and need to get out and work before they figure out what fair really is.
Report Post »barber2
Posted on May 9, 2012 at 9:53amSounds like the typical 99% bull that the Democrats like to get out in the media.
Report Post »Gonzo
Posted on May 9, 2012 at 10:20amRyan’s a bad Catholic and pro abortion, pro contraception, pro gay marriage, pro government intervention into church business Biden and Pelosi are good Catholics? It’s bizarro world.
Report Post »NHwinter
Posted on May 9, 2012 at 9:12amSocial Justice in the Catholic definition and social justice in the Jim Wallis sense are two very different things. Unfortunately, those students do NOT know the difference. This administration plays off the uninformed minds of our youth, or the minds that have been indoctrinated by Marxists professors. Really sad that the truth is not out there anymore.
Report Post »DIVINEPROVIDENCE1776
Posted on May 9, 2012 at 11:21am“Social Justice in the Catholic definition and social justice in the Jim Wallis sense are two very different things”
Apparently you’ve been duped. Either way you slice it, social justice is code word for communism and can be found no where in the Bible.
http://www.discoverthenetworks.org/guides/Z-Social%20Justice-Code%20for%20Communism.htm
Report Post »AIDANMAN
Posted on May 9, 2012 at 9:11ammaybe it is fate that he thinks he can choose his own destiny? and their fate is to lose.
and really, this is the best argument they got.
Report Post »JimL
Posted on May 9, 2012 at 9:20amRyan is Prsybeterian?
Report Post »JimL
Posted on May 9, 2012 at 9:31amOr, Ryan is Predestrian?
Report Post »barber2
Posted on May 9, 2012 at 9:49amOr , how about JIML is a Troll on hash ?
Report Post »Locked
Posted on May 9, 2012 at 9:09amOh look, a student (likely still a teenager) with poorly thought out opinions. Stop the presses!
What I‘d really like to see The Blaze do a story on is the content of Ryan’s speech, what promises he makes, and what goals he sets. It seems like he has a good head on his shoulders and the will to carry the fight. But all we’ve seen on him here is “SOROS-LINKED CATHOLIC GROUP & 90 PROFESSORS PROTEST PAUL RYAN AT GEORGETOWN UNIVERSITY“ and ”ACTUAL COLLEGE PROTESTER: PAUL RYAN NOT REALLY A CATHOLIC BECAUSE HE BELIEVES ‘YOU CAN DETERMINE YOUR OWN FATE’.”
How about some real meat instead of listing the opinions of meat-heads?
Report Post »JimL
Posted on May 9, 2012 at 9:25amNo mas tofu hash.
Report Post »Locked
Posted on May 9, 2012 at 9:37am@Jiml
I honestly have no idea what you’re trying to say.
Report Post »JimL
Posted on May 9, 2012 at 12:05pmLocked, translation: if we have to read hash (news slung unto a website) please do not add diced synthetic soya protein (BULL).
I agree with you.
Report Post »Therightsofbilly
Posted on May 9, 2012 at 12:41pm@LOCKED
What do you think of the contents of his speech?
Report Post »Locked
Posted on May 9, 2012 at 1:27pm@Billy
I haven’t read it, nor has The Blaze reported on it; hence my issue with their reporting. Want to whip it up into an article? I’m looking for the transcript now online.
Report Post »Therightsofbilly
Posted on May 9, 2012 at 1:38pmDid you watch it?
It’s on C-SPAN
Report Post »Locked
Posted on May 9, 2012 at 1:42pm@Billy
Found it now: http://www.nationalreview.com/corner/297054/paul-ryans-whittington-lecture-daniel-foster
What do you think of it?
I’m finding myself nodding at a lot of his points, and shaking my head at others. Some ideas he proposed (ex: avoiding higher interest rates in the future) are in direct opposition of what other Blaze contributors have suggested (see Josiah Ryan’s article yesterday titled “Higher, not Lower interest rates will save higher education”).
He does seem to contradict himself: he claims that Obama is divisive and failed to focus solely on job creation by going into health care reform and green initiatives (I agree with him on both points), but then veers off course by discussing, among other points, religion and Medicare. I don’t fault him for taking to those topics, but he could have presented it better if he didn’t blast Obama for working on other issues besides jobs as well.
I do like that he extends an olive branch as well; immediately after decrying partisan politics, he mentions working with Democrats to lower the tax rate and close loopholes for the wealthy. However, he then again veers off from the “plan to add jobs” angle to talk about the fundamental nature of American democracy. Again, not a bad topic, but not the one he, in his own words, says should be at the forefront.
I wish there was more of an actual plan than vagueness and emotional appeals, but it’s a speech. Pretty good overall.
Your take?
Report Post »Therightsofbilly
Posted on May 9, 2012 at 1:48pmAnd the link to it can be found in the Blaze article that you referenced.
Report Post »Locked
Posted on May 9, 2012 at 2:07pm@Billy
“And the link to it can be found in the Blaze article that you referenced.”
Maybe I’m missing it; I see a lot of talk about it but no links to the transcript. I provided it after searching online though. I feel like I’ll need to be out of work to really digest it, but my lunch break is over.
So in the meantime, your take? What parts did you agree with, disagree with? What parts do you wish he spoke more or less on?
Report Post »JimL
Posted on May 9, 2012 at 2:14pmThanks for the review; it reminds me of the interview two weeks ago with Arroyo of the World Over Program (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5YuO_fuj6nM&feature=plcp ).
Ryan is courageous. He put a plan “out there” knowing it he would be bashed with it. By my count this is his third bashing since 112th convened?
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Posted on May 9, 2012 at 2:29pm@Jiml
Thank you for the link; unfortunately I’ll have to save it for later (videos are frowned upon in my office). From what I’ve read online, one of the things Ryan’s plan does is keep the current spending increase cap at 3%, compared to Obama’s 4.5%. My major issue is that neither plan addresses reducing our debt. I like Ryan’s ideas about simplifying the tax code and closing loopholes; however from what I’ve read his plan will still be increasing our debt. For all the talk on helping out the future and preserving America, I can’t see his plan as doing much besides slowing our race to the bottom.
Again, it‘s just what I’ve read; I look forward to the video.
Report Post »Therightsofbilly
Posted on May 9, 2012 at 3:16pmSorry Locked,
I should have been more clear.
I meant that there was a link to the C-SPAN Video. Did not know you were Blazing at work.
I like to watch them speak the words, rather than read a cold, impersonal transcript. It gives me a better take on where they are coming from, and the sincerity of their delivery. I have a good sense of being able to “read” people by observation. Helps a lot when playing poker too.
Ryan is a strait-forward and sincere man. Like Glenn, he has a good heart and cares deeply for this country.
I liked most all of his speech. ESPECIALLY when he takes it to Obama over his “class warfare” and “divisiveness”.
I disagree with your take about Obama focusing on other things than jobs, mainly because the whole time that was going on, all his minions were running around saying jobs, jobs, jobs, jobs has been the focus since day one! Laser like focus on jobs, jobs, lobs.
Ryan was right to call him on it.
I also liked his statements about the Reagan era, and the optimism for, and about America and it’s greatness. I am tired of the negativity of this administration.
I hope for change !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Report Post »Therightsofbilly
Posted on May 9, 2012 at 3:30pm@LOCKED
BTW, the C-SPAN video runs almost an hour.
About 25 minutes for the speech, then the rest is question and answer.
Report Post »JimL
Posted on May 9, 2012 at 3:59pmLocked. Yes- Ryan, wants to slow our run to the cliff. Hope.
Report Post »NHwinter
Posted on May 9, 2012 at 9:08amI think the whole world has gone crazy. There is no respect for anyone or differing opinions. When did it start? After Obama said he would unite the country and then he was elected and just the opposite happen. I give all the credit to Obama for lowering the standard of debate and dividing American and encouraging protests. He and his buddies (old 60s hippies and Marxists) have implimented their plan and it is working. Treason and deception is their hallmark.
Report Post »mikefromaltoona
Posted on May 9, 2012 at 9:30amOh I think there’s ample credit to be smeared all across the nation. Go back, back to the misty, time shrouded days before 2008.
Report Post »barber2
Posted on May 9, 2012 at 9:47amI think it all started in Wisconsin . The unions “ occupied ” the legislature after Walker was elected and tried to institute budget cuts. Then came the buses. Then came the professional , ready-made posters. Then came the protestors. Then went the fleeing Democrat legislators to Illinois , Obama’s home state. Yes, it all started in Wisconsin when all of the allies joined forces : Big Labor, Democrat politicians , and the “organizers ” in the White House / Center for American Progress / Lap Dog Media . All joined together to Occupy America….Been Hell ever since…
Report Post »DesdemonasCrew
Posted on May 9, 2012 at 1:44pmI think it started with the Black Harvard Professor and the White cop doing his job…you know, the one who acted “stupidly”. “o” stuck his nose in that and hasn’t stopped sticking. He chooses winners and losers, and tries to control opinions by stepping in when he sees an opportunity to move the window.
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