After National Outcry, Fed Reverses Anti-Christian Bank Decision in OK
- Posted on December 18, 2010 at 9:13am by
Jonathon M. Seidl
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The Federal Reserve has reversed its decision that originally forced a small Oklahoma bank to remove from its premises and website Bible verses, crosses, and Christmas buttons. The reversal occurred after national outcry and a letter from two Oklahoma lawmakers who charged that the decision may be unconstitutional.
(See our previous coverage of this story here and here.)
Sen Jim Inhofe (R-OK) and Rep. Frank Lucas (R-OK) sent a joint letter to Fed Chairman Ben Bernanke on Friday afternoon saying they have “seldom encountered a more alarming case of heavy-handed interpretation and enforcement of Federal regulations,” and charging the decision may be in violation of “fundamental Constitutional protections.”
The letter ended by demanding a response. That response came Friday afternoon, when the Federal Reserve’s second in command contacted Payne County Bank president Lynn Kindler in Perkins, OK and told him he could once again display his Christian artifacts and Bible verses.
“The Federal Reserve restored everything on a permanent basis,” he told KOCO-TV in Oklahoma City. “It’s over. We can put everything back up the way it was and keep it there.”
Originally the Fed told the bank its Christian symbols violated the discouragement clause of Regulation B of the bank regulations. The clause prohibits “… the use of words, symbols, models and other forms of communication… [that] express, imply or suggest a discriminatory preference or policy of exclusion.” Fed examiners interpreted that to mean the bank’s overtly Christian messages could offend people of other faiths.
“This is an all out assault on the faith, values, and rights of the bank, its employees and the people of Perkins they serve,” Sen. Inhofe said in response. “It is absolutely ridiculous for the regulation to be interpreted this way, and it unduly discriminates against a persons faith in Christ and their Constitutionally protected freedom to publicaly express that faith.”
Rep. Lucas agreed: “The recent actions taken by the Federal Reserve at Payne County Bank are of great concern to me. I do not agree with its interpretation of Regulation B in this circumstance and believe that it infringes upon fundamental Constitutional rights afforded to all Americans.”
And whether or not the Fed agreed too, it acquiesced. That pleases Perkins citizens.
“I think that’s good,” local resident Bill Erwin told KOCO. “I don’t think they should have had to take it down,” added Carrie Kinsey.
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Comments (242)
Redistributor
Posted on December 18, 2010 at 10:06amNothing but a distraction…what’s the other hand doing?
Report Post »Ribverb
Posted on December 18, 2010 at 1:33pmYes, exactly. What is the other hand doing? This is post of the day for me.
Report Post »im4truth
Posted on December 19, 2010 at 7:34pmAw com’on now Redistribbutor,
Just enjoy the moment, and give yourself a little room for hope, and faith.
Tis the Season, after all.
Merry Christmas Everyone.
Report Post »UpstateNYConservative
Posted on December 18, 2010 at 10:00amLefties nationwide must be galled out of their minds the pushback that started with the TEAs is getting bigger and countering them everywhere. America is awake now, and people of good conscience and character are fighting the nonsense libs have been shovel-feeding us for forty years.
God, I love the smell of liberty in the morning!
Report Post »uncleherbert
Posted on December 18, 2010 at 11:07amGod, I love the smell of liberty in the morning!
Great post, I will stand with you…
Report Post »Mr Sanders
Posted on December 18, 2010 at 9:57amI’m sorry, MAY BE UN-CONSTITUTIONAL? Please, lawmakers, can I send you a copy of the United States Constitution to read? Oh. I forgot….. its a few doors away. You know, instead of heading back to your cozy cottage in DC, you could just stop by one night and ask the Nat’l Archives to allow you read the ORIGINAL; it may help you better connect with your roots/history. Let me make it easy for you, I’ll buy you a ticket to see it – will that help? Also, I have a couple book suggestions on the interpretation of the document too if you wish?
I think we should do a Mr. Smith and parade you in front of the document prior to heading to the WH or Congress- if you don’t have the slightest tear in your eye, or even an emotional response, that should be one de-merit for you coming into office!
MAY BE UN-CONSTITUTIONAL…. commit to something? Stand FOR something? MAY BE…??
Report Post »Awakenow
Posted on December 18, 2010 at 9:53amEric Holder should go first he is the top law enforcement officer and has anyone heard from him or is it justice to sit by and watch them take away our GOD given rights silence is complicity.
Report Post »ETOOL USMC RECON
Posted on December 18, 2010 at 10:09amHolder is too busy protecting the punks of the new black panthers, acorn, and the other miscreant friends of bin obama.
Report Post »lewbrown
Posted on December 18, 2010 at 10:53amThen he has a full time job and not much time left to protect the Constitution.
Report Post »capitalismrocks
Posted on December 18, 2010 at 9:51amGreat work and keep vigil and keep the pressure on… 1st Amendment is about Religious fairness and the freedom from being prohibited the free exercise thereof…
There is NO separation of Church and State…
Also at the end, one commenter said that there should be no religion in companies who deal with public, uh duh… that is just about ALL businesses, privately owned businesses… Even a bank, while it is under Federal regulations, it is NOT owned by the govt, it is a PRIVATE company and the govt has ZERO say in what a private company or person can do with their religious freedom of expression…
Now take this VERY seriously and re-read what I just said…
The Fed just tried to demand that a PRIVATE COMPANY not have religious freedom, again it may have been under Federal regulations because it handles currency, it is still PRIVATE!
If they were to get away with that, they could then move forward to demand that PRIVATE CITIZENS not be allowed to display Religious symbols or displays outside of their own PRIVATE HOMES! To wear religious jewelry in public… this is all testing of how far the Fed thinks it can get away with and each time they dip their toes in the waters, BITE THEIR LEGS OFF!!!
The govt can only do what the people allow it to do, do NOT allow the Fed to push us around on Religion and the 78% Christians should not have to bow down to the 1.5% atheists in our country…
Report Post »Awakenow
Posted on December 18, 2010 at 9:49amHow big of them to stop this effort to infringe on our GOD given rights. Heads should roll, accountability should have consequences!
Report Post »flagbearer
Posted on December 18, 2010 at 9:46amCertain mindsets keep trying a nudge-here and shove-there just to see if we’re paying attention. Stay vigilant my God-fearing, Christian patriots. Let the world know we are not afraid to stand up for our beliefs and religion. I have no problem with someone believing and practicing a different religion or even not accepting any religion. That is their choice and their soul. But, separation of church and state did not mean you have the right to take away mine or prevent me from expressing it.
Report Post »ETOOL USMC RECON
Posted on December 18, 2010 at 10:06amRight, WE THE PEOPLE have allowed the twisting and misinterpritation of our Constitution and Bill Of Rights for a long, L O N G time.
Report Post »But it seems the SLEEPING GIANT is stirring in his slumber…and more people HAVE HAD IT with the intrusiveness of big brother, aclu, now, etc.
Some of you may have heard of a town nearby here, Cannonsburg,PA, that took down a Nativity just because ONE person complained…..
Well enough people stood up and the Nativity was moved back the other day, as the city council voted 8-1 tp put it back.
Keep up the fight as when you have your enemy in the corner they will lash out with all they have.
JUSTSAYIN
Posted on December 18, 2010 at 9:39amIs Anyone Surprised? This Is EXACTLY What The Lefty’s Voted In When They Voted Two Years Ago, Why Act Surprised? EVERYONE Knew,,,, Sean Hannity, Rush, And ALL The Talk Shows Told Us,,, FOX FAIR AND BALANCED Told Us….. Why Are We Surprised? You AIn’t Seen NOTHING Yet,,, Get Ready,,,, They Just Testing The Water,,,, The Banks,, Auto,,, Insurance,, ALL of America,,,, Taken,,, And They Just Relent After Taking A Mile,,, Give Back An Inch,,, Take A MIle,, Give An Inch,,,, Nothing New Here,,, ALinski SpookyDude plan,,,, and The Majority Of the American Voters Voted FOR This “Stuff” Two Years Ago,, So Enjoy
Report Post »Ksera Sugarmail
Posted on December 18, 2010 at 9:38amBut I guess the Fed won’t be sending any agents to Goldman Saachs.
Report Post »tower7femacamp
Posted on December 18, 2010 at 10:13amonly to help them load the gold into their bunkers
Report Post »RIGHTNOTLEFT
Posted on December 18, 2010 at 9:38amWay to go America, thats how we hold back the barbaric hoards that threaten our Republic!!!!!!!
Report Post »joseph Fawcett
Posted on December 18, 2010 at 9:37amWe are making a difference I think. This is a Christian Nation both founded and in priciple. That is what they must take away from us first before they can make this a marxist union of states. We must break the fed goverment central control over us and get it back to the founders established role. Then we will be free again, we are not free now, we only have a decreasing view of what freedom should be. May God make haste to deliever us from those who seek our lives and our hurt.
http://www.josephfawcettart.com western artist
Report Post »guyperram
Posted on December 18, 2010 at 9:36amSmoke and mirrors, that is all this was. Distract folks at the same time they work diligently to destroy the currency and set up their dream, one world government and currency.
Report Post »Watch your back and prepare. Bad times such as this country has never seen (or the world for that matter) are just around the corner.
ETOOL USMC RECON
Posted on December 18, 2010 at 9:33amWait……do they hear who’s knocking at the Fed door………..
Report Post »Well it’s RON PAUL……..
Little benny is going to need a sabatical…or perhaps an early retirement…….the stress is too much.
Perhaps his retirement gift may be….a striped suit and a 6×6 cell?????
ADMIRAL747
Posted on December 18, 2010 at 9:39amWe can only hope.
Report Post »NickDeringer
Posted on December 18, 2010 at 9:32amWhen you take the king‘s coin you must dance to the king’s tune.
Report Post »Marylou7
Posted on December 18, 2010 at 9:31amThat ruling should have never been made in the first place. What business is it of the Fed, NONE.
Report Post »AmericanSoldier
Posted on December 18, 2010 at 11:02amThe question is was this OK bank OWNED by the Fed or part of their network of banks? If so, if that bank owes the Fed billions from their balance sheet, the Fed owns that bank and can dictate policy. End of story.
Report Post »OKLady
Posted on December 18, 2010 at 11:44amIf you bother to check the bank’s website, they are 100% employee owned community bank.
Report Post »Diamondback
Posted on December 18, 2010 at 12:12pm@AmericanSoldier:
You are in obvious need of basic constitutional and legal instruction and most of your comments reveal the depth of your ignorance.
Got a library nearby?
Study up and then come back and participate in a more “informed” discussion please.
Thank you.
Report Post »zman173rd
Posted on December 18, 2010 at 12:17pmIt’s called the FDIC. If the fed has thier money insuring our money they think they have a right to tell you how to run your business? sound familiar? That’s how they tell how schools what to teach and so on and so on.
Report Post »FORLORNHOPE
Posted on December 18, 2010 at 1:12pmAmerciansoldier What is this about the Perkins bank owing the Fed billions, did they take a bailout? Was Perkins Oklahoma with a population of 2,700 people part of the housing bubble?
Report Post »ecsecs1
Posted on December 18, 2010 at 4:41pmEven if the Fed owns that bank through debt we can pressure them out of PC decisions.. There is a growing dislike of the Fed and they know it…
Report Post »Modawg734Blue
Posted on December 18, 2010 at 11:34pm@AmericanSoldier,
Report Post »Agian I state, the key word in your argument is ASS of U me. The origional article said it was a privately owned bank. Most of the small banks throughout the US, recieved nor needed anything from the Federal government. Please remove the socialist propiganda from your front yard, a real American soldier might find it offensive.
DashRipRock
Posted on December 18, 2010 at 9:28amDoes this mean that my Visa card with Santa’s picture on it wont work anymore?
Report Post »TakingRainbowsBack
Posted on December 18, 2010 at 11:12amno, because he encourages eating high caloric cookies while drinking whole milk. he must be stopped!
Report Post »bbquizzle
Posted on December 18, 2010 at 12:04pmYou mean your Santa doesn’t consume organic soy milk and raw broccoli stalks?
Report Post »FidFed
Posted on December 18, 2010 at 9:27amThe Federal Reserve is not a US Federal Agency., and in my opinion all that was involved in
Report Post »mandating the so called “Regulation B” infringes upon fundamental Constitutional rights afforded to all Americans!
They should be fired! and never to have another job in this country except for street cleaning.
PissedoffAmerican
Posted on December 19, 2010 at 10:35amAbsolutely correct, the FED is not owned by the American people. It owns us. The Fed is headed by a Rothschild, the Rothschild family controls the worlds capital ( controls world gov’ts) and has for centuries. When they got their hooks into America by way of the FED Reserve Bank, the National Debt started to rise. Look it up.
Report Post »The Fed is the biggest scam ever and is the same scam has been used to take over and bankrupt countries by the Rothschild family for generations. Look it up.
CYCLONE
Posted on December 19, 2010 at 1:18pm… aaahhhh yes… the Rothschilds…. the Jews that made the incenerators for the Nazi death camps…
…What A Wonderful Family…
Report Post »John 1776
Posted on December 18, 2010 at 9:24amFinally! It seams at times that every religion on the face of the earth is “protected” except the one that founded the country!
Report Post »Gonzo
Posted on December 18, 2010 at 9:36amLiberals interpret freedom of religion as freedom from Cristianity!
Report Post »JimOhio
Posted on December 18, 2010 at 10:15amAmen John! Hard to figure a federal holiday esablished in 1870 celebrating the birth of Christ, found 140 years later in a continual battle of freedom of speech in order to celebrate it. But as many of us know (some do not), political correctness is in fact a very dangerous form of censorship.
Report Post »randy
Posted on December 18, 2010 at 9:23amEnd the FED!
Report Post »DashRipRock
Posted on December 18, 2010 at 9:35amYou do realise that if we go to a Gold Standard, China will then be able to take our gold from us, dont you?
Report Post »And when I say us I mean all of us because the only way we can have a Gold Standard is if the Fedral Gov. ends the private ownership of gold.
CALIDUDE
Posted on December 18, 2010 at 10:08am@Dash Where did that comment come from? Go back to MM and maybe get yourself some better jammies.
Report Post »DashRipRock
Posted on December 18, 2010 at 10:15amTake a look at history
The United States Gold Reserve Act of January 30, 1934 required that all gold and gold certificates held by the Federal Reserve be surrendered and vested in the sole title of the United States Department of the Treasury.
The Gold Reserve Act outlawed most private possession of gold, forcing individuals to sell it to the Treasury, after which it was stored in United States Bullion Depository at Fort Knox and other locations. The act also changed the nominal price of gold from $20.67 per troy ounce to $35.
A year earlier, in 1933, Executive Order 6102 had made it a criminal offense for U.S. citizens to own or trade gold anywhere in the world, with exceptions for some jewelry and collector’s coins. These prohibitions were relaxed starting in 1964 – gold certificates were again allowed for private investors on April 24, 1964, although the obligation to pay the certificate holder on demand in gold specie would not be honored. By 1975 Americans could again freely own and trade gold.
Those who dont know history are doomed to repeat it.
Report Post »CALIDUDE
Posted on December 18, 2010 at 10:17amPS: Do you think confiscating Gold would be quite so easy this time?
Report Post »DashRipRock
Posted on December 18, 2010 at 10:30amWell your the dumbass that wants it confiscated.
Let me guess your read the fairy tale
Creature from Jekyl Island and now you are an expert in monitary policy.
Well I have a masters degree in economics and my bet is that you wouldnt know the difference between.The Brenton Woods Accord and a Honda Accord
CYCLONE
Posted on December 19, 2010 at 1:26pmHHMMMM… INTERESTING THAT YOU BRING UP GOLD AND THE FED… HHHHHMMMM…..
… somehow, the Federal Reserve has conveniently not done an audit of it’s gold reserves in Ft. Knox since 1957…. HHHHMMMMMMMMMMM !!!!!!!….. when Ron Paul orders them to do an audit…
…IT WILL MAKE THE SOCIAL SECURITY “LOCK BOX” LOOK LIKE A GIRL SCOUT PICNIC !!!…
…. Own Gold Bullion !!!! … and a gun to protect it…!!!
Report Post »Chett
Posted on December 18, 2010 at 9:23amscore 1 for freedom
Report Post »MrObvious
Posted on December 18, 2010 at 4:00pmMore than one.
This was limit testing by the Fed.
If it had gone unchallenged, they would be doing this to banks around the country right now.
Report Post »mtnclimberjim
Posted on December 18, 2010 at 9:22amNever give up the fight. Good will triumph over the demons.
Report Post »Dale
Posted on December 18, 2010 at 9:20amLike bullies everywhere – when the righteous stand up and stand firm they back down. These fights are going to occur more and more often as we go along because the church has been asleep for far too long. As we wake up, those who have flourished in this slumber period will not want to give up their power without a very nasty fight.
We must fight the right fight in the right way and always remember where our strength comes from.
Report Post »NancyBee
Posted on December 18, 2010 at 9:48amYou got that right!
Report Post »HillBillySam1
Posted on December 18, 2010 at 10:02amA perfect example that only good can come from fighting the good fight!
Report Post »untameable-kate
Posted on December 18, 2010 at 11:32amAmen, brother.
Report Post »Annette
Posted on December 18, 2010 at 12:51pmDale:
i think you agree with me.You just said it a little more eloquently than i. It is very Christian to be tolerant of all ideas including bashing Christians and we have succumbed to the whims of the “offended.” b/c this is tolerant Christianity.
It is time we stop allowing our haters to define us and shut us up..I was responding to the “beck is nuts” guy who went off saying “Christians spewing hate and how typical that we are all just a bunch of hypocrites, stupid, unchristian like folk blah blah…“ The same old argument they use to try and shut us up by not so politely reminding us that ”this is not a very “Christian” thing to do to fight for your ideology.
Basically, I am not afraid anymore to be called unchristian…I will wear it like a badge of honor while I do more good deeds in a day than a liberal does in a lifetime.
Report Post »Sparky101
Posted on December 18, 2010 at 3:49pmAnnette, remember the words “Father forgive them, they know not what they do.” Keep your patience, because they truly do not know. They think they do, but when you know the Truth, the truth shall set you free. And when you are free, you are free indeed. With love, you might help a few, but love does not mean being a doormat for cheap shots and hatred, just understanding it is the result of their not knowing.
Report Post »Gonzo
Posted on December 18, 2010 at 9:20amThey are waiting for us to lose interest and they will go right back to it. Stay awake America!
Report Post »Taquoshi
Posted on December 18, 2010 at 9:31amAlthough the articles says that there was a phone call, I hope the Bank Official had the presence of mind to say, “Can I get that in writing?”
Report Post »Nutthuggers
Posted on December 18, 2010 at 10:34amYes. We can’t relax until the Fed is dismantled. Thank you Ron Paul for waking America up to the beast that is the Fed Reserve
Report Post »tobywil2
Posted on December 18, 2010 at 9:16amWere those responsible displined or fired or they just wondering around looking for someone else to bully. http://commonsense21c.com/
Report Post »tower7femacamp
Posted on December 18, 2010 at 9:26amNo they will not be fired, because the federal reserve is not really
Report Post »Federal, it is a a PRIVATE BANKING CARTEL and could very well have
Muslin banks as share holders. There is no law that would prevent that.
http://www.apfn.org/APFN/fed_reserve.htm
http://www.zimbio.com/David+de+Rothschild/articles/6/Wo+Owns+Federal+Reserve+Rothschilds+Bank+England
http://www.federalreserve.gov/aboutthefed/section7.htm
I would also be surprised if ft knox has much gold left in it.
USA has been looted without a shot being fired.
Taquoshi
Posted on December 18, 2010 at 9:30amGood point. The agent or agents involved should be disciplined.
Report Post »ME
Posted on December 18, 2010 at 9:40amThat‘s the real problem the government people that trample on the constitution and won’t even get a slap on the wrist (TSA also) probably told to just wait a bit and then you can start again when no one is paying attention.
Report Post »G.W. Dobbs
Posted on December 18, 2010 at 9:48amThe Agents will most likely be given a Certificate of Excellence, a Cash Award, a Medal and a Promotion; after all, had this ploy worked, the GOVERNMENT would have made it NATION WIDE in its application. And this will not be the GOVERNMENT’S last attempt.
Report Post »Liberals are Disgusting
Posted on December 18, 2010 at 9:58amFeds dont get fired
Report Post »tobywil2
Posted on December 18, 2010 at 10:33amWhen the Fed forces is a small bank to remove Christmas decorations it’s bound to make it big media splash. The tyrants knew that there would be a big public outcry and the story would absorb the attention of the media, allowing them to use a lot of ink and airtime with minimal effort. It seems that this type of circus precedes many of the tyrant’s efforts to increase oppression. Does anyone have an idea what this extravaganza was suppose to hide? http://commonsense21c.com/
Report Post »doublezero12
Posted on December 18, 2010 at 10:35amIt took my father, who works for a federal agency, over two years to fire someone who wasn’t doing his job. He had so much documentation about this incompetent slacker, but the red tape was incredible. It’s a horrible nightmare for supervisors, and the people under them know it.
Report Post »untameable-kate
Posted on December 18, 2010 at 10:54amToby, bullying is the right word for it too. Why in the world would they go after a bank in the bible belt? I drove through Oklahoma once and the people there were the nicest most God fearing people I have ever met. The folks in Ok have alot to be proud of, the people in that state present themselves beautifully.
Report Post »AmericanSoldier
Posted on December 18, 2010 at 10:59amAhem… the Federal Reserve is not a Government Agency. It’s as much a Government Agency as Federal Express is.
Report Post »Sparky101
Posted on December 18, 2010 at 11:19amAmericansoldier, Ahem, what you say is patently untrue. “its authority is derived from the U.S. Congress and is subject to congressional oversight. Additionally, the members of the Board of Governors, including its chairman and vice-chairman, are chosen by the President and confirmed by Congress.” Now please try to tell us that Federal Express was formed by an act of Congress and it’s board is appointed by the President of the USA. I’m waiting!!!!!
Report Post »Diamondback
Posted on December 18, 2010 at 12:08pm@ American Soldier:
Federal Express wasn’t created by an act of Congress however.
Report Post »carrietony
Posted on December 18, 2010 at 9:15amthanks federal reserve I’m glad my phone call worked too….after calling the women told me after speaking to whom ever the man was he told her to tell me and anyone who called that they will be putting out a statement on their website …..
Report Post »79USMC83
Posted on December 18, 2010 at 9:33amThey did!! They should take “In GOD We Trust” off the damn money. I am OFFENDED!!! I think they should outlaw all holidays Bah Humbug. The Federal Reserve should be taken down!!!!! If the “Government Stupid” was any good at Regulating we would never have recessions or DWH explosions!!
Polwatcher
Posted on December 18, 2010 at 9:45amWe have to keep a good eye on these ******** that run our government entities. Ron Paul will be the chairman of their oversight committe in January and should be their worst nightmare.
AzDebi
Posted on December 18, 2010 at 9:57am“MAY have been unconstitutional?” R-E-A-L-L-Y! We’ve had enough! If we want God to STAND for us…we’ve got to STAND for GOD! Well done!
Report Post »walkwithme1966
Posted on December 18, 2010 at 10:04amGood job – small victories are all that matter! http://wp.me/pYLB7-pF
Report Post »kryptonite
Posted on December 18, 2010 at 10:13amStop calling yourself a Christian, Obama. God is getting fed up too and you don’t want to make HIM angry.
Report Post »Conserving Ink
Posted on December 18, 2010 at 10:28amWhat I don’t understand is how a non-government agency (the Fed) gets to tell its customers (the banks) how they can or cannot decorate their lobby. By what authority? Why would a bank even listen?
Report Post »____________________________________________________________________
http://conserving-ink.blogspot.com/
KICKILLEGALSOUT
Posted on December 18, 2010 at 10:42amI am still NOT satisfied about this! Who was the person in charge of overstepping their authority and passing this decision on? We should DEMAND that they be fired for this! In any other job if you are to overstep your bounds and break the law you would be fired! Why is it that the Traitors in our government can constantly push to see what they can get away with but not have any consequences to pay if they are exposed or meet opposition? Please call or write the same senators Sen Jim Inhofe (R-OK) and Rep. Frank Lucas (R-OK) who wrote the first letter and DEMAND that they follow up and ask that someone be fired over this bigoted decision!
Annette
Posted on December 18, 2010 at 10:50amwe freaking surround them! Another win for us. We are winning more and more take it back you beautiful wonderful loving christians—-we showed tolerance for too long…when we gave you sec progressives an inch you were not happy until all of our rights and religion are stripped completely from us…..NO MORE>>NO MORE …no more meekness. It is time to be a little un-christianesque in my opinion.
The very nature of christians has allowed this BS to go too far.
Report Post »Sparky101
Posted on December 18, 2010 at 10:56amI want names, addresses and phone numbers, so I can give these nameless “Feds” a piece of my mind. Banks are private businesses, owned by real people who also have rights. The “Feds” have overstepped their bounds on this church/state crud, and it’s high time we put them back in the box they belong in. Fire these particular “Feds.” Let them try to get a real job where others tell them what to do. That will be their hell on earth
Report Post »AmericanSoldier
Posted on December 18, 2010 at 10:57amA private entity (The Federal Reserve) told another private entity, which I’m assuming they own or has bailed out for billions, (OK Bank) to remove something the Fed wanted removed. I don’t see the problem here.
That’s like saying Corporate telling a local store that they own, say Walgreens, to not display anything Christian specific. That‘s they’re choice as property owners to determine.
If this was Government telling a private business what to do, it’d be a different story.
Why are you private property rights conservatives up in arms over this? I know why. You’re all hypocrites.
DashRipRock
Posted on December 18, 2010 at 11:05amHelp me out here,
I dont understand why no one wants Congress to have a decision in thier private health care, and no one wants congress to decide energy policy, and none wants congress to decide what light bulbs to use in thier homes….
but everyone wants congress (elected officials) to decide thier banking policies ergo auditing the Fed
If congress is too stupid to run health care (and they are)
Report Post »and if congress is too stupid to run our nations energy policy(again they are)
what makes them smart enought to run our monitary policies? (they aren’t)
NoDaDAZone
Posted on December 18, 2010 at 11:07amWhat a travesty. What an INFECTION. Where does this hatred of religion and everything good come from? It all began when the Progressives merged with the Dadas in 1918 and used their ideas (Dada manifesto) as a blueprint for the long-term destruction of culture and civilization to replace it with their communist-socialist-anarchist paradise.
Arm yourselves with knowledge.
Viral Video Dada Expose: http://www.marcrubin.com/dada2.ivnu
Israel National Radio Interview with Marc Rubin on authentic ancient history: http://www.marcrubin.com/judean-eve.ivnu
Report Post »Sparky101
Posted on December 18, 2010 at 11:10amAmericansoldier, your apparentl bias and bigotry seems to be leading you around by a ring in your nose. Haters will hate. You should practice some “tolerance” and “acceptance.”
Report Post »Major Infidel
Posted on December 18, 2010 at 11:12amHey Ben, Dr. Paul is about to pee in your cornflakes, and I can’t wait!
Report Post »Sparky101
Posted on December 18, 2010 at 11:17amAmerican Soldier, the Fed is not a “private” entity. It was not formed by “private” individuals, but by an act of Congress. Read and weep: its authority is derived from the U.S. Congress and is subject to congressional oversight. Additionally, the members of the Board of Governors, including its chairman and vice-chairman, are chosen by the President and confirmed by Congress.” Also, while there are Federal Banks, most “members” of the structure are PRIVATE banks – as in PRIVATE. Quit trying to convince folks of something that is not true.
Report Post »Slobaphobe
Posted on December 18, 2010 at 11:22amTobywil2 how right you are–meanwhile back at the ranch on Saturday overtime the boys ( and girls) are voting on the Dream Act…
Report Post »DashRipRock
Posted on December 18, 2010 at 11:25amAlot of todays confusion about the Federal Reserve and its action came from the book
“Creature from Jekyl Island” by G. Edward Griffin
maybe some of you FED haters should read G.Edward Griffins other book
“World without Cancer” by G.Edward Griffin
http://www.amazon.com/World-Without-Cancer-Story-Vitamin/dp/0912986190
in this book he cliams you can cure cancer with arsenic ( I bet you can, permanently)
You guys should do some research on G.Edward Griffin he is a con man,a snake oil salesman and a devoted follower of that wacky nut from the 80s
LYNDON LaROUCHE
Report Post »Promotefreedom
Posted on December 18, 2010 at 11:38am@Major Infidel:
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mm-mm good!
independentvoteril
Posted on December 18, 2010 at 11:43amMaybe we could THANK them first for writing the letter THAN ask them to pursue it .. MANNERS first..epically for the good guys
Report Post »independentvoteril
Posted on December 18, 2010 at 11:50amI second that.. however.. I am a big mouthed Christian..LOL.. but I was a minority when it came to speaking out.. that is NO LONGER the case..
Report Post »Reagan/Demint.deciple
Posted on December 18, 2010 at 11:52amThe squeeky wheel gets the oil…
Report Post »DashRipRock
Posted on December 18, 2010 at 11:52amLet me see if I can put this in a way that even a Pauler could understand.
The FED is like an axle on a truck, if some dumb ass overloads the truck and the axle breaks, is it the axles fault or the dumb ass that overloaded the truck?
The load in this case is debt. Congress is the dumb ass that overloaded the truck with debt via spending to much.
If you want to fix our economy unload the truck. In other words STOP SPENDING
Report Post »CultureWarriors
Posted on December 18, 2010 at 11:56amIt‘s offensive to me that a bureaucrat that abuses power isn’t fired. For stories like this they shouldn’t end with .. Oh, we changed our minds. They should continue and report on what happens to the offender. In this case the overzealous examiner who should not have a job right now! Unless we hold people accountable, liberals will continue to force their perversions on us! They should have to think twice before they act. That can only happen if there are real consequences to one’s actions.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y8DnA4Ro9tQ
Report Post »Dale
Posted on December 18, 2010 at 11:58amAnnette;
“It is time to be a little un-christianesque in my opinion.” Sorry, you’re wrong. Christians win by being Christian. The Berneke (sp?) and his group walked back their decision in what, I think, is record time. I think Glenn is right. Things are beginning to turn around. God is not dead, and He is back.
Report Post »Diamondback
Posted on December 18, 2010 at 12:02pm@Americansoldier:
The Federal Reserve was enforcing a FEDERAL Banking Regulation which was, it appears, intentionally written to allow broad interpretation. Unfortunately for them, this particular interpretation was blatantly contrary to the First Amendment to the U.S. Constitution which, if your really are or ever were, an American Soldier, you took an oath to support and defend.
Wouldn’t surprise me if someone informed them of the possibility of being charged with a violation of 18 USC Sections 241 and 242.
No hypocrisy here on this particular issue.
Report Post »ChiefGeorge
Posted on December 18, 2010 at 12:06pmWe should be careful what we ask for. Whats good for the goose is good for the gander whatever that means exactly. In other words…we should wonder why the sudden reversal, does the Fed have another agenda? Will everybody be OK with Muslim verses spread around the workcenter and up on the bank websites?
Report Post »ltb
Posted on December 18, 2010 at 12:42pmThe reason the Fud relented is because it never had the authority to tell that bank to take the displays down in the first place. Principles of schools in small towns, who have received threatening letters from the ACLU telling you that you can’t have prayer in school, or Bible studies, or Christmas pageants, or Christmas displays, need to remember this and throw those letters in the trash. The ACLU is a tiny organization with a lot of paper and secretaries who are busy mailing out letters with empty threats. The ACLU counts on the ignorance and cowardice of average Americans, because usually small towns acquiesce out of fear that they’ll have to spend a lot of money defending themselves.
The ACLU is a paper tiger and it will not file any suits against schools for participating in the Christmas holiday. Why? Because CHRISTMAS IS A FEDERAL HOLIDAY AND IT IS A VIOLATION OF YOUR FIRST AMENDMENT FOR THE GOVERNMENT TO PROHIBIT YOU FROM EXERCISING YOUR FAITH IN PUBLIC. Furthermore, if you have received a threatening letter, contact a Christian law firm (e.g., http://aclj.org/). They’ll send a letter to the ACLU telling them to shut up and you’ll never hear from them again. Better yet, put up a website asking for donations and sue the ACLU for harassment and malicious prosecution. Like all of the Tea Party candidates this past election, you will be inundated with money to cover the costs. Let’s keep these little worms on the defensive from now on and bankrupt them. Oh and let’s not let them spoil our Merry Christmas!!!!
Report Post »ltb
Posted on December 18, 2010 at 12:50pmChiefGeorge, don’t be such a yellow belly. They relented BECAUSE THEY HAD NO AUTHORITY AND WERE VIOLATING THESE PEOPLE’S FIRST AMENDMENT RIGHT TO EXERCISE THEIR RELIGION. Besides, if a Muslim owned bank wants to put up verses on its website from the Qur’an telling followers to decapitate infidels and hang pictures in their lobby on 9/11 to celebrate the collapse of the Twin Towers, I’m sure most of their customers would appreciate the candor.
Report Post »moonpeace
Posted on December 18, 2010 at 1:32pm@carrietony
Report Post »HEY CARRIE, it was my phone call, not yours, that made the difference and had the decision changed…so I am the hero, not you.
proudinfidel54
Posted on December 18, 2010 at 3:53pm79usmc83, I just THANK GOD that you represent the minority..lol We The People “ARE” serving notice on scum like you…lol… I have a feeling we will be bringing your demon’s work out of the dark and in to the light. It is truley about time too, since the 60′s all I have heard is Christians are violating my rights Blah, Blah, Blah, Well buddy what about the rights of the Christians…surley you remember them, they are the guys that founded this Great Nation and just happen to represent the Majority, but don’t feel bad you can always exercise your “GOD” given right to not go in that Wonderful Bank. I believe America is serving the DEMON-crats notice…Praise God…don’t feel too bad, Us Christians will let you have the place just as soon as we Rapture out of here. Do not get too use to it, however, because we will be back to deal with you guys. By the way, stopping Christians from worshipping is against their Constitutional rights, if any of you atheist would bother to read the rest of the amendment you all keep spouting, you would see the rest of words “AND THE PREVENTION THERE OF”.
Report Post »MrObvious
Posted on December 18, 2010 at 3:58pm@kryptonite,
Report Post »What you are really saying is Obama doesn’t want to make Gorge Soros angry.
After all, who do you think his god is?
proudinfidel54
Posted on December 18, 2010 at 4:19pmCULTUREWARRIORS, you are right, now that we have opened the draw bridge, it is time to storm the castle, DASHRIPROCK, what the %ell are you talking about? we are talking about Christian Rights here you need to go on back to the stone age where you belong…
Report Post »proudinfidel54
Posted on December 18, 2010 at 4:39pmWait No Longer Spunky 101, The Federal Reseve is NOT a federal entity, It is a conglamerate of world bankers that usurped their power by ramming it through Congress is the same fashion as the Obama bunch did the Health Care Bill, at Christmas and it was signed by Becks favorite President, Simply because something is under Congressional Oversight does not make them a federal entity, is General Motors the U.S. Department of General Motors??? besides I would be willing to bet none of the Federal Reseve Members had to take a Civil Service Test. The truth is The Fed. Res. is the worst enemy America has ever had. You need to go to Hallindsey.com and watch the last 3 or 4 half hour shows and you WILL be enlightened.
Report Post »RepubliCorp
Posted on December 18, 2010 at 7:05pmMAJOR INFIDEL thats the truth!!!!!! We all cant be muslin like Conrade Charlatan
Report Post »tower7femacamp
Posted on December 18, 2010 at 7:50pmhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QiKh9Ko3mw4
Report Post »Modawg734Blue
Posted on December 18, 2010 at 11:15pm@AmericanSoldier,
Report Post »Bradley is that you? Your not supposed to be on the internet.
The FED does not own the privately owned bank.
A better analogy would be, “Your next door neighbor knocks on your door and tells you to remove the socialism rocks sign from your front yard, because a real American soldier might find it offensive.”
The key word in your argument is ASSUme.
Modawg734Blue
Posted on December 18, 2010 at 11:19pm@DASHRIPROCK,
Report Post »Very intelligent argument. Thank you!
Modawg734Blue
Posted on December 18, 2010 at 11:22pm@SPARKY101,
Report Post »GOD bless you. Thank you for taking the time to gather facts.
ozz
Posted on December 19, 2010 at 1:34am@ DashRipRock You know nothing of the fed. Either shut up or learn the truth before you speak. I have read PRIMARY resources on the fed. It is not just criminal it is treasonous as was every central bank the US has had. Every one is entitled to their opinion but the treason of the fed is not opinion it is fact.
Report Post »Modawg734Blue
Posted on December 19, 2010 at 2:41am@Dashriprock,
Report Post »It was intelligent until I read your next two posts, then it just became an argument. Should have stopped while you still had a point.
UPSETVET
Posted on December 19, 2010 at 4:39amThis incident is a great example of how bad governmental judgements and policies can be overturned IF the American people stick together and by peaceful protest demand their Constitutional rights be upheld. Thanks to Republican Senate and Congressional intervention the Federal Reserve informed the Bank envolved it could return all it’s Christian symbols and Christmas decorations. The liberal left needs to realize that it’s not running the show anymore and conservatives are no longer the “silent minority” in America.
Report Post »judg724
Posted on December 19, 2010 at 4:44amHere‘s a great litmus test that can be universally used to determine a business owner’s rights. Do you say a business owner doesn’t have the right to, for example, have Christian displays, not hire gays, pay men more than women, pay a below minimum wage, or not hire someone for basically any reason. Some might say people have a right to not be discriminated against or judged by these standards. Fortunately I can prove ALL those liberal thinkers wrong, quite easily actually. You may be expecting me to say something like there isn’t such a thing as a right to a job, and that would be correct too, but my argument is even more powerful. If I have a right to close my business, which I do, then all the aforementioned reasons to not hire fall under this ultimate authority. Thus also proving that I can do with MY business what I wish, even if the government says I can’t. Ha!
Report Post »Bluebonnet
Posted on December 19, 2010 at 2:09pmWell, it‘s no wonder we’re facing this stuff. We leave God outside and live as we please in our homes.
Report Post »Our children no longer have Christian values, then we wonder why they do the things they do? Few of us stand up for our Christian beliefs and let others have dominion over us. Satan, get thee behind me! We‘re so afraid we’ll offend if we believe in Jesus Christ. People, start standing up for what we believe and maybe the country will come around and let us have back our Christian freedom and beliefs again. I’m tired of giving everything to the 20% of the other side, we need to stand together,
Our problems are moral problems and we need to return to our values our forefathers died for.
Soldier4Christ
Posted on December 20, 2010 at 1:05amThe Fed said nothing to Washington Mutual when they used a menorah in their loga and all through their banks. SMH
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