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Air Force Veteran Upset That Daughter Is Asked to Recite Pledge of Allegiance at Public School

Veteran Furious That Daughter Is Asked to Recite Pledge of Allegiance at Public School

A 26-year-old single mother and graduate student who served in the Air Force for four years, told the Seattle Times Friday that she is outraged over policy implemented by a new principal at her 6-year-old daughter’s public school regarding the Pledge of Allegiance. Outraged, that is, by the principal’s announcement this week that all students will now be asked to recite the Pledge of Allegiance each day, something that the veteran did not expect at the dual-language immersion John Stanford International School. The Seattle Times writes on the frustration of Haley Sides:

“Sides was outraged when the school’s new principal announced this week that students will be asked to recite the Pledge of Allegiance at the beginning of each day. The practice, which has long been mandated by district policy and state law but has not traditionally been observed at John Stanford, will start Monday.

‘It pains me to think that at a school that emphasizes thinking globally we would institute something that makes our children think that this country alone is where their allegiance lies,’ said Sides, her voice oscillating between disappointment and anger. ‘This has no educational value for young children. Absolutely none.’”

The John Stanford International School is an award-winning Kindergarden to fifth grade public elementary school in Seattle’s Wallingford neighborhood, that offers students dual-language immersion programs in Spanish and Japanese. Haley told the Times that she chose to settle in Wallingford so her daughter, who is half-Jamaican, could be part of an educational community promoting multiculturalism. The girl’s father was a Jamaican-born Navy serviceman who died seven months after obtaining U.S. citizenship.

The pledge has been recited in certain classrooms by individual teachers at John Stanford, but not implement school-wide until new principal Jesely Alvarez sent a pair of letters to parents this past week. Although recognizing opposition from some teachers, Alvarez decided to “move forward” in”following state law.” The Times notes that many parents are delighted with Alvarez’s decision, and it is fully supported by district leadership.

Still, Sides is not the only parent unhappy with the decision, or the school discussing the issue without input from parents. Father of a Stanford first-grader, George Ptasinksi questions the policy, saying to the Times “‘Separate but equal’ was the law of the land for a while. Was it right to enforce?”

The pledge was reportedly a hot topic of conversation among parents in attendance at the school’s weekly coffee hour. Officials note that the new policy asks, and does not make students participate in the pledge.

While some parents are strongly in support or opposition of the new policy, the Seattle PI notes that others are more apathetic to the whole situation:

“Alayna Setter, who has a first-grader at the school, is one of them. ‘If people have a problem with it they have the right to opt out, so I don’t know why parents should have an issue with it.’

‘It’s political correctness run amok,’ she added. ‘People are bending over backward to make things issues that really aren’t issues.’”

Over 23,000 readers “liked” a recent Blaze article reporting on a Texas public high school where students were made to recite the Mexican national anthem and Mexican pledge of allegiance as part of a Spanish class assignment.

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  • godhatesacoward
    Posted on October 23, 2011 at 11:12pm

    people have taken advantage of of their “right” to be an American! It makes me so sick that they don’t understand they would be EXECUTED in other lands for their spoken thoughts.

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    • Lesbian Packing Hollow Points
      Posted on October 24, 2011 at 12:21am

      You mean something that’s not forbidden here is happening here?

      whodathunkit?

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    • MASTER YODA
      Posted on October 24, 2011 at 12:34am

      I wonder if her “furriness” overrides the “furriness” of the majority who love this idea?

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    • Lesbian Packing Hollow Points
      Posted on October 24, 2011 at 12:53am

      WTF are you talking about, “furriness”?

      Are you having “fursonality” issues?

      And Yoda’s one of the lease furry characters in the saga.

      And, of course, everyone with “but the majority wants this thing” are the ones making America into a Democracy and are killing the Republic.

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    • PATTY HENRY
      Posted on October 24, 2011 at 12:56am

      Clearly what needs to happen in this country is some RE-EDUCATION. The one-worlders, bilderberger, Muslim Sharia lawist, the Communist, Marxists, Socialists have all but ruined our EDUCATIONAL system.

      ARE YOU ALL aware that in all the history of the world ONLY 5% of the people have EVER LIVED IN FREEDOM?? Self-Governed…no king, no tribal leader, no dictator, no genral? ARE YOU AWARE OF THAT….Do you know how many people have died to give us freedom? Do your kids know anything about AMERICAN HISTORY??? They’ve all but stopped teaching it in our schools. DO you know how PRECIOUS FREEDOM is and woman, YOU ARE so damned wrong. SHE is in AMERICA, THIS is supposed to be her HOME, THIS IS THE BEACON for the world…even past what the creeps have tried to do to it (SATAN leading the pack…this is an all out GOOD vs. EVIL thing going on) …. SHE’D better learn how fortunate she is to be here and how much blood has been spent for her to be here and how people from all over the world (already live here) and are dying to come here??? The PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE should be the MINIMUM you teach your kid to do. GOOD FOR THAT SCHOOL…you are on the WRONG SIDE of this…leave if you want to, but don’t try to put OUR great nation of Self-Government and FREEDOM and lump it in with the rest… THIS IS AMERICA!!! We’ve been a lot of other places… THIS IS A GREAT COUNTRY that GOD gave us and we almost had to lose it to know that.

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    • Patrick Henry
      Posted on October 24, 2011 at 12:58am

      God hates no one!

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    • The-Monk
      Posted on October 24, 2011 at 1:12am

      “Air Force Veteran Upset that Daughter is Asked to Recite Pledge of Allegiance at Public School”
      Was this Air Force Veteran upset when he/she took an oath to protect this Nation? I would consider this person a traitor and bring charges against them or at least cancel any benefits they are receiving. Who is this person pledging allegiance to now? Commies, Marxist, socialist or Islamic jihadist? It‘s quite clear that it’s not the USA. What secrets did this traitor give up to our enemies?

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    • The-Monk
      Posted on October 24, 2011 at 1:21am

      @Lesbian Packing Hollow Points
      Obama says that WTF means, “Winning The Future”. Who are you going to vote for in 2012 for President?

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    • Pontiac
      Posted on October 24, 2011 at 1:30am

      “It pains me to think that at a school that emphasizes thinking globally we would institute something that makes our children think that this country alone is where their allegiance lies,”

      We didn’t participate in their elections, they don’t represent us, those nation laws do not apply to us, they do not protect us. Why would we have any allegiance to anyone other than our own?
      The more “Global” we become, the less of an “Individual” we are. Your voice will be nothing in that sea of noise.

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    • Marci
      Posted on October 24, 2011 at 2:13am

      What do we expect from a 26 year old? Did she serve in the forces for her country or just a paycheck? This is what makes me sick….she had no business being in the U.S. military when her obvious vision is of a more global setup. So let your kid sit out. This is different than the classes making it MANDATORY to recite the Mexican pledge. Maybe she forgot we are in the U.S.?? When I was in first grade, we had one girl who sat out the pledge of allegience every day. She said her family didn’t believe in God. She was allowed to sit out, no one thought twice about it and that is all there was to it. No drama, no fuss, everyone is happy. And THAT was in 1976. Apparently we were still a fairly free country then.

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    • Detroit paperboy
      Posted on October 24, 2011 at 2:18am

      Please , just leave……….

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    • Lesbian Packing Hollow Points
      Posted on October 24, 2011 at 2:44am

      @ The Monk:
      What The… Furriness, yeah, furriness in this context.

      And Herman Cain… if I get the chance to.

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    • Servant Of YHVH
      Posted on October 24, 2011 at 3:43am

      “A 26-year-old graduate student and single mother, Sides started crying as she described why she is so opposed to the pledge being recited in her daughter’s school. The explanation goes back to her partner, a Jamaican-born Navy serviceman who died just seven months after obtaining U.S. citizenship and when his daughter was 1½.”
      This is from an article in the Seattle Times. as we can see that this is a bunch of BS. If this “partner” of hers sought after and was able to obtain citizenship means that he was proud of this country and wanted to be part of it. If Haley is doing this becauser o him then the information known shows that she is completely and totally disrepecting what he was proud of and she is dishonoring even his memory. I am curious what her military record would show during her service time. This person needs to move to Russia or one of those countries and take all these communists like her that are trying to bring down this nation. That way they could suffer under a communist regime over there and she could even spend the rest of her time wishing that she had not been so stupid as to promote anti-American behavior. I bet that she considers her service as the most disgusting and dishonorable time that she has ever spent. I allways tell soldiers that I meet that I thank them for their service but these pseudo patriots I have no use for. It sounds to me like she has hated America for her entire life, probably because the country didn’t worship her.

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    • Servant Of YHVH
      Posted on October 24, 2011 at 3:49am

      One thing that I am curious about is why was the heading given as:
      “Air Force Veteran Upset That Daughter Is Asked to Recite Pledge of Allegiance at Public School”
      Her being an Air Force veteran has nothing to do with this story unless the writer of the story wished to give more credence to the story by stating it this way. I would have to wonder if the author of this story is against saying the Pledge as that is the only true reason that I could see to start it with that heading. If the Blaze columnist came up with it, perhaps Glenn should check on where his employee’s loyalties lie.

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    • GETLIFE
      Posted on October 24, 2011 at 4:47am

      Where did she serve in the Air Force– and in what capacity? Finish the story, BLAZE. (please?)
      You use the “veteran” thing in the title and at the top of the story, then you give us NO information about what you have set up to be a major context of the story….

      Christopher Santarelli wrote this piece. Isn’t he the one who wrote the (subtly) biased article about Cain and abortion?

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    • beardenj
      Posted on October 24, 2011 at 5:13am

      I didn‘t miss the fact that she is a ’graduate student’. Obviously she has been subjected to ‘retraining’ to eliminate any tendencies carried over from her years as a ‘veteran’. Good for the principal.

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    • G3L
      Posted on October 24, 2011 at 5:15am

      Did she say what air force she was in? Shut your mouth and thank GOD for this country! So, dont us the GI bill for your own good, GOD BLESS AMERICA.

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    • Sheepdog911
      Posted on October 24, 2011 at 6:02am

      Here’s proof that being a veteran does not make you a Patriot. To this woamn, the military was obviously just a job with a steady paycheck for four years.

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    • USaidWhat
      Posted on October 24, 2011 at 6:20am

      And what about all the schools who are forcing our kids to pledge alligience to the Mexico without their parents knowledge?

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    • walleye01
      Posted on October 24, 2011 at 7:04am

      my people shall perish for lack of knowledge.

      if we don’t know our history & our heritage then we can not understand the importance & significance of the pledge…

      We are not made to think globally…we were given boarders, by God, for a purpose & man is attempting to remove those borders…the big goal is for government to replace God (in our minds) in that our rights are given by God not man…these things are all connected

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    • SERUM
      Posted on October 24, 2011 at 7:35am

      The biggest turd puts off the biggest stink, and for the whole country to catch wind of this, says a lot for this one individual!
      Her significant other would be rolling in his grave on the fact he went to all the trouble to become an American citizen and he himself reciting the pledge to become one. This woman dishonors the nation and his memories with her ignorance.Has she ever considered her daughter what she wanted instead forcing her beliefs and opinions on an innocent.

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    • Hobbs57
      Posted on October 24, 2011 at 7:38am

      I bet you this Air Force Vet is still on the 4 year “inactive” reserve they put you on, or is it 8 now ?? That means she is still able to be called upon in the case of war situations. MEaning she could quite possibly be a traitor of sorts .. MAybe she needs to just shut her mouth and rethink things.

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    • decendentof56
      Posted on October 24, 2011 at 7:42am

      Upset that they mention the mom is a vet?

      It is very relevant.
      This country was (unfortunately for you globalists) founded by White, Christian, Anglo-Saxons who had a common identity, heritage, and language.
      Too bad if you don’t like the truth!

      Our DOI/Constitution was founded by people who knew it would be hard for man to govern himself, and they did everything possible, with the things known at that time, to prevent what is happening from happening.

      Little did they know about the weather underground, Bill Ayars, socialist professors, teachers unions, and the effect that they would have on our children. Also, they could not see 200 years into the future to the flood of illegal Mexicans and others from every corner of the globe that would eventually take down America.

      America ‘will’ be taken down. It is happening before your eyes. Sad thing is, some of you are not bright enough to see it, and, worse, you approve of it! Not until you have been made slaves of some dictator will you get it. Not until you go to work and see the deadbeats who don’t give a crap and make the same, in fact, are mandated to have the same, as you, that you might see it. I’ll hold the bets on that one.

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    • copyCAT3
      Posted on October 24, 2011 at 8:09am

      Very well spoken Decendent56.

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    • lillymckim
      Posted on October 24, 2011 at 8:11am

      I have an idea why don’t you take your daughter Haley Sides and go to Haiti?

      It pains ME that you are being FORCED to live in the USA!

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    • GhostOfJefferson
      Posted on October 24, 2011 at 8:13am

      You’re right. In other countries, if they questioned reciting a pledge written by a socialist in order to get people used to being beholden to the State and used to thinking of themselves as members of a collective, they would be shot.

      Here of course, they’re simply condemned by people who claim to hate socialism yet insist on reciting aforementioned pledge as if it were patriotic.

      I was never a fan of the pledge, especially once I researched it, who wrote it and why it was pushed hard by progressives. Look back at pictures of kids reciting the pledge prior to the 1940′s, it’s scary (what is that salute they’re doing there…? Hmmmm).

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    • StonyBurk
      Posted on October 24, 2011 at 8:22am

      Note to the deranged single Momma — You served in the US Air Force -but it appears learned nothing from it. Are you an American ? A question I must ask because you act more like an America HATER.
      The pledge has educational value in that it teaches young heads full of mush what their America HATING MOM appears to have never learned There is value in being an American . True enough our public schools –even charter schools –not to forget even the private school/or home school governed by the State fail to teach American exceptionalism any more. But if this Mom can name ANY other nation that provides a better quality of life– I strongly suggest she pack up and move there.

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    • GhostOfJefferson
      Posted on October 24, 2011 at 8:26am

      Here are kids giving the salute to the flag that Bellamy, an open and avowed socialist, who wrote the peldge, recommended.

      http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/7/73/Students_pledging_allegiance_to_the_American_flag_with_the_Bellamy_salute.jpg

      It is really surprising how readily people in a free nation took to the pledge and how angry they become when somebody points out the history and underpinnings of the pledge.

      This is of course unrelated to the woman in the article, who apparently objects to the pledge out of a position of idiocy rather than education. While our ends may be the same, our reasons for objecting to the pledge a polar opposite.

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    • GhostOfJefferson
      Posted on October 24, 2011 at 8:49am

      About the socialist Francis Bellamy:

      He “championed ‘the rights of working people and the equal distribution of economic resources, which he believed was inherent in the teachings of Jesus.”

      Gosh, who does that sound like?

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    • mikem1969
      Posted on October 24, 2011 at 9:12am

      If this so called vet is complaining about reciting the pledge, then he is no AMERICAN CITIZEN AND NEEDS ALL OF HIS BENEFITS REVOKED. If you are AN AMERICAN CITIZEN, YOUR LOYALTY AND ALLEGIANCE ARE TO her. If you don’t like it, then GET OUT.

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    • GhostOfJefferson
      Posted on October 24, 2011 at 9:30am

      @Mike

      That’s the single most un-American and un-Christian thing I’ve ever read.

      That said, most people could never aspire to be a Shadrach, Meshach, or Abednego and gladly bow before the idol erected, proudly and on command.

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    • Vechorik
      Posted on October 24, 2011 at 10:10am

      Education (new world order) The deliberate dumbing-down of America
      We must get education out of the hands of Federal government
      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m-LTTExVC1w

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    • techengineer11
      Posted on October 24, 2011 at 10:27am

      John Jay addresses the issue at hand here in the 2nd Federalist Paper. The issue is, are we still one people under one Christian religion that speaks a common language sharing similar customs? Clearly the answer is no. The Republic has absolutely failed and it’s time to start over. End of discussion. It’s over! How much more evidence does one need?

      PATTY HENRY: Couldn’t help but notice that you left one group out.. You probably just lumped them under the Marxists but just because you and I know doesn’t mean others understand.. For example what do all the Presidents of our Ivy league schools have in common? Are they all Catholic? Women? Marxist? Arab? Protestant? hmmmmm What is the answer PATTY HENRY? Enquiring minds do want to know.

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    • mikem1969
      Posted on October 24, 2011 at 1:16pm

      GhostOfJefferson.

      Sorry dude, a citizen should pledge his or her allegiance to the country he or she is a citizen of. If they can’t do that, then their citizenship should be revoked. You don’t like it, oh well.

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    • JRook
      Posted on October 24, 2011 at 2:00pm

      Probably because the mom can’t recite it from memory either. The pledge is a good starting point for reminding people about one of the key deficits in the country. That is one of citizenship and working form the betterment of the community….. that is “with liberty and justice for all”.

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    • GETLIFE
      Posted on October 24, 2011 at 2:29pm

      I asked nicely, but THEBLAZE still has given us no real information on this single mother who “served” 4 years in the Air Force. My guess is that she worked in the gift shop at the Air Force Academy.
      Sorry, but really this article is cheap– Cheap title making everyone react, no real info.

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    • Who would Jesus bomb?
      Posted on October 24, 2011 at 2:37pm

      What the hell was this dolt doing in the Air Force, or any branch of the US military for that matter? Was it so he could cowardly gun down his fellow soldiers while they’re unarmed, and yell Allahu Akbar? Oh, wait, was it so he could start a church and give fiery sermons about how horrible America is and how the buzzards have come home to roost??? Go live in cuba, buddy.

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    • Seamus236
      Posted on October 24, 2011 at 2:44pm

      I find it disgusting that a fellow USAF veteran would object to her daughter reciting the Pledge of Allegiance something that is far less stringent than the OATH her mother took to get the GI Bill which is now helping “Mommy” get her graduate degree. The innate selfishness of those on the Left to get what they what when they want it, regardless of the cost is astounding. If she doesn’t want her daughter to recite the Pledge of Allegiance to the only country in the world that gave her mother the “right” to have a GI Bill and her ;ate father citizenship for his service to this country, then this mother is beyond all hope as an American.

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    • HOWSO
      Posted on October 24, 2011 at 2:47pm

      Is this person a US citizen? Why would a citizen object to the pledge to our flag and country? EVERYONE who is not sure they want to be a citizen, live in this country and LOVE it, definitely belong somewhere (anywhere) else! Bet she is happy to take every avantage she can get here. like FREE SCHOOLING for her child. If my child were asked to recite the pledge to Mexico, I would refuse to allow it.

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    • rodrob
      Posted on October 24, 2011 at 3:19pm

      The Pledge of Allegiance is mandated by Washington state law. The school and indeed the entire school district needs to be aware of state laws and conform to them. I taught school for many years in this state (WA), and continue to substitute teach. We say the pledge every day. It may seem outrageous to some people, but it is the LAW and if you don’t like it, there are ways to change it. If you go to public school in this state ( and many other states), you will say the Pledge.

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    • Bill in Texas
      Posted on October 24, 2011 at 4:45pm

      It‘s called CIVIC’s! Teaching our children to be proud of their country by learning our traditions!
      Moms status as a 4 year Air Force Vet doesn’t add to this story. She shoud be proud of her daughter.
      I’m a 21 year Retired AF Vet and I teach my kids to love this land. In the words of Ronald Reagan “We are a great shining city on a hill” and people are still dying to come here. We should be proud.

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    • Secret Squirrel
      Posted on October 24, 2011 at 4:53pm

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      “‘It pains me to think that at a school that emphasizes thinking globally we would institute something that makes our children think that this country alone is where their allegiance lies,’ ”

      What kind of school teaches “thinking globally”?
      Obviously, it gets my tax dollars, because the principal is caving to pressure.
      Maybe they should ask for funding from the UN.
      This kid will be attending “occupy Seattle” in a few years.
      Spoiled and STUPID.

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    • linearnonlinear
      Posted on October 24, 2011 at 5:21pm

      Dear Servant Of YHVH, The reason it was headlined as being ex Air Force, someone who helped defend our country has already given the ultimate pledge to said country. And the irony is, now said person has an issue after undergraduate educational indoctrination.

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    • Doris
      Posted on October 24, 2011 at 5:55pm

      “The school is supposed to make students think globally, not think of the US as where their allegiance lies.”She was in our Air force.?Where was her allegiance?Mine is to the US no other country. She belongs on Star TRek.

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    • pavepaws
      Posted on October 24, 2011 at 6:09pm

      If she doesn’t like it, home school.

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    • jarhead69
      Posted on October 24, 2011 at 6:13pm

      i believe that this should be the minimum that needs resited, give me a break, if she couldn’t resite it you would be bitching about that

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    • American Soldier (Separated)
      Posted on October 24, 2011 at 10:26pm

      Is one not suppose to take advantage of their rights? I thought that was the whole point….

      …. forcing 6 year olds to pledge to a country is unamerican, imho. Does the 6 year old even understand what they are doing? None of you ever consider FUTURE implications for these things sometimes. Who‘s to say they won’t worse the Pledge to Communism one day? That is why you maintain neutrality through law so that the majority (at any given time) cannot force you to do what you forced THEM to do in the past.

      None of you really care about the future, just the here and now. And you wonder why we’ve gotten in such a huge mess, financially and politically. Neutrality is the key to providing the most people with the most freedoms. One you allow something like this to happen, because it’s something that benefits you, what guarantees that you will always be in the majority?

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  • Constructionist
    Posted on October 23, 2011 at 11:11pm

    As an Army veteran I can only imagine how proud the Air Force must be. Apparently they did not aim high enough with this woman.

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    • drhunt
      Posted on October 23, 2011 at 11:18pm

      She took an oath when she enlisted to defend our constitution and citizens against all threats, foreign and domestic. If that oath meant so little to her that she reacts to the Pledge being required recitation by her daughter, then perhaps her military college benefits should be donated to someone else…voluntarily.

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    • pamela kay
      Posted on October 23, 2011 at 11:31pm

      Apparently she did not aim high enough. This does bother me. What is that old saying, “One bad apple don’t spoil the whole bunch”

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    • Darmok and Jalad at Tanagra
      Posted on October 23, 2011 at 11:47pm

      Air Force retired, 22 years. That one is one I would have run off and denied promotion. I have never run into anyone like that in my time.

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    • WarVet
      Posted on October 23, 2011 at 11:48pm

      This piece of crap must have joined the Air Force just to get her college. If she feels her daughter reciting the Pledge of Allegiance is wrong she needs to get the hell out of the United States and go to some other Global country. This bullsh:t is coming from the progressives and commies, this New World Order crap is trying to destroy America and change it into this Global BullSh:t. For all you unpatriotic POS get the Hell out of America or we will throw your Asses out!!!

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    • corbecket
      Posted on October 24, 2011 at 12:00am

      Air Force, Army, Marines, whatever. Whether or not a person has been in the military, is no indication that he/she has their head screwed on straight. Consider Carter, Washington, McCain, and McVeigh. They were all in the military, yet their worth to the nation varied from indispensible to horrific.

      The headline seems to imply that military service predisposes a person to a particular political/societal mode of behavior. I don’t think it really makes a difference, IMHO. I’ve seen a number of veterans, right on my street, that I wouldn’t trust to take out the garbage (and don’t ask what my wife thinks of me). They are knuckleheads, with military experience.

      What’s important about a person, is what they do in the here and now. If they can’t measure up on that basis, they are unfit for their current duties.

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    • The Scarecrow
      Posted on October 24, 2011 at 12:00am

      Dr. I second that!!

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    • thepatriotdave
      Posted on October 24, 2011 at 12:09am

      I love our Veterans, and I mean a deep passionate love for their service and their sacrifice, but this gal has gone through some un-explained changes that leave me puzzled.
      We should all say a prayer for her and her kids.

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    • turnabout
      Posted on October 24, 2011 at 12:09am

      Give your taxpayer benefits back…they were gained under false pretenses which constitutes fraud. Renounce your citizenship! If you don’t abide by the constitution and are not loyal to America you are de facto a foreign agent.

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    • The10thAmendment
      Posted on October 24, 2011 at 12:19am

      I’m outraged that the AirForce would have ever admitted that wretch.

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    • Thatsitivehadenough
      Posted on October 24, 2011 at 12:32am

      Scary to think people like her are in OUR armed forces.

      Maybe it was the graduate program that poisoned her mind? Universities do a lot of that these days.

      Sad. I hope the school doesn’t back down. I‘d rather one kid didn’t say it than all kids couldn’t.

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    • hvy_gunner_0331
      Posted on October 24, 2011 at 12:49am

      I just want to add: There is no statute of limitations attached to the oath we all took when joining the Armed Forces… This “Air Force Veteran” is still bound to “protect and defend the Constitution of the United States…” which is far more binding than the Pledge of Allegiance… Maybe she ought to think about that.

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    • Drakkhanlord
      Posted on October 24, 2011 at 12:54am

      Dam glad i never met her, or anyone like her, during my time of service …

      can thank the govt for this bs …everyone thank the gov’t …

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    • ItSwOrThIt
      Posted on October 24, 2011 at 12:57am

      if she doesnt like it ,,get out! theres no room in this country for people like her. she makes me sick to my stomache.

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    • jb.kibs
      Posted on October 24, 2011 at 1:02am

      Best statement ever.
      ‘It’s political correctness run amok,’ she added. ‘People are bending over backward to make things issues that really aren’t issues.’”

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    • Wipsaw
      Posted on October 24, 2011 at 1:17am

      As a 20 year Air Force retiree I would not classify her as a veteran. More likely unfit for duty is why she only served one term and that was probably more to serve herself through military benefits than it was to serve her country. Will have to check on her discharge status it may be less than honorable reasons.

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    • Tronix
      Posted on October 24, 2011 at 2:41am

      @HVY
      I was thinking the same. I don’t know the exact content of those oaths you mentioned, but it’s common sense those are forever. I can’t understand how some people (Especially politicians and public servants) can think an oath isn’t a very serious thing.

      Knowing that an USAF veteran is thinking this way is new for me.

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    • mcrandall
      Posted on October 24, 2011 at 6:05am

      As a 25-year veteran of the USAF, the title of this article sadens me. A four-year hitch is the minimum you can do voluntarily, and unless forced out, that‘s what you’ll do. Hard to get a long-term read on a person in that short of a time span. Think this title had nothing to do with the issue other than to sensationalize it. Unfortunately, that comes at the expense of the pride I and the vast majority of my fellow compatriots share for our chosen profession. She may have served very honorably during those four-years, we don’t know based on this article. Suffice it to say, there are nutbags in every community. Damn proud there are so few in our armed services, media claims notwithstanding.

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    • lillymckim
      Posted on October 24, 2011 at 9:16am

      Sounds to me like she joined up and then could not cut it.

      A good bet is she will be “Occupying Space” with the rest of the misfits soon…

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    • riverdog1
      Posted on October 24, 2011 at 2:35pm

      everybody who is behind a goverment mandatory oath for every man, woman and child please be quiet and do what you are told.

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    • American Soldier (Separated)
      Posted on October 24, 2011 at 10:41pm

      She was also 21 years old when she took that oath, knowing full well the words and meaning of that oath. Her 6 year old does not have the capacity to understand what pledging to a nation really means. It’s nothing more than indoctrination. Is that ok as long as it’s something you agree with?

      I took the oath myself, and I understood what I was doing. I personally have no problems reciting the pledge, I just don‘t believe it’s American to force others to. Is forcing someone to pledge allegiance freedom or authoritative?

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  • PapaJohannesPatriot
    Posted on October 23, 2011 at 11:10pm

    I don’t care whether or not this mother is a veteran or a grad student. Doesn’t make a difference. This is an American school on American ground. If she doesn’t want her little darling saying the pledge, then take her to another country for her schooling. Maybe the UN has its own school.
    ‘This has no educational value for young children.’ Bullcrap!. Patriotism, love and respect of country. This woman spent 4 years in the USAF. Who forced her? She wasn’t drafted. She volunteered. Why would you volunteer to protect your country if you didn’t believe in patriotism?
    I wouldn’t mind seeing more info on her service record. Partner? So she never married her baby’s daddy?

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    • NRAmedic23
      Posted on October 23, 2011 at 11:27pm

      Probably joined to get a free education off the taxpayers dime!

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  • bankerpapaw
    Posted on October 23, 2011 at 11:10pm

    Gee whiz!! Is this the best the Air Force can do?

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    • Ordie69
      Posted on October 23, 2011 at 11:44pm

      Retired Navy here and it pains me to stick up for the Air Force ;) (just kidding) but every family has that crazy uncle that nobody wants to invite to the cook out. While I can not read this ladies mind, I imagine she spent 1 tour in service; just long enough to get the G.I. Bill and moved on. Personally, I think that she is doing her child a disservice by not taking the opportunity to explain that America IS a great country and has contributed blood, sweat, and tears for the betterment of the whole world.

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    • MerryJ1
      Posted on October 24, 2011 at 1:38am

      No, BankerPaPaw, this is the worst, and the Air Force didn’t do it. A conniving, self-serving broad lied her way into the Air Force to get a paid-for education. With her obvious — and she’s outspoken about it, so it’s obvious — belief system, it would have shown more integrity if she’d worked as a ****** and paid for her own schooling.

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    • Dismayed Veteran
      Posted on October 24, 2011 at 3:46pm

      We know nothing about her service except she served 4 years. The Air Force is notourious for slow promotions. I suspect she didn’t get past E4. This means that if she did not make waves she was under the radar. She probably got an Honorable Discharge. Who cares. The issue is not her service but her position regarding the Pledge. Even if the Pledge was origniated by a Progressive Socialist, most everybody believes it is important. It has lost the original meaning and gained a more positive image.

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  • bankerpapaw
    Posted on October 23, 2011 at 11:08pm

    If you don’t like the Pledge of Allegiance, then why did you “serve” in the Air Force? I’ll bet others
    had to carry your workload because youare a no count lazy sleeze bag. O.K., you have had your
    15 minutes of fame. Crawl back into the sewer where you belong.

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    • phillipwgirard
      Posted on October 23, 2011 at 11:14pm

      thats what is wrong with our country, everyone wnts their own little law to serve them, another frvilous lawsuit in the making for this bum.

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    • dlassley
      Posted on October 24, 2011 at 8:17am

      amen

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  • cobra two
    Posted on October 23, 2011 at 11:08pm

    hmmmmm. This one has me puzzled.

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    • ChiefGeorge
      Posted on October 23, 2011 at 11:20pm

      Not me!

      She’s like many young people of her generation. They were shunned away from such notions that America is great and can be greater of we all keep the fires of our freedoms burning bright, this way we become a beacon to others who strive for human freedoms. The USA has lifted millions out of human misery and darkness. Our values sometimes straddle the spiritual realm as well when they note that our rights come from God and not man.

      When a nation of people fails to continue on its values it ceases to be a nation and then falls into chaos, bloodshed. When that happens, everyone will be standing around asking what the heck happened? Didn’t America used to be great? Didn’t this nation put a man on the moon way back in the last century? We have lost our way because we have adopted untried new ways at being something other than being American. Being an American to someone like this Vet is something akin now to just being an uneducated hick. Allegiance? What is her allegiance going to be too? Is this generation ready for the one world leader? It sure seems like it is because it would appear that that is the next logical step at our socalled human development. God help us all under a one world system of laws, religion, commerce and the like. Alleginace to it will be fun at first and cool to do, anybody who does not get inline with that after a short period of time will be considered a threat to the state and that would be a step backwards for them.

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    • wzanesdad
      Posted on October 24, 2011 at 12:46am

      me too coba…….this makes no sense. There has to be moe to this than we’re being told. However, I do think that if she did serve honorably for 22 years…..she has eared the right to think or say anything she wants…..even if I totally disagree with her.

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    • colt1860
      Posted on October 24, 2011 at 1:41am

      Well, it is in Seattle, that should at least half explain it.

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    • wzanesdad
      Posted on October 24, 2011 at 2:48am

      good point.

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    • CoffeeWarrior
      Posted on October 24, 2011 at 4:47am

      @ Wzanesdad
      The story says she is 26 and served 4 years, she did the minimum time, got her benefits and then bailed out.

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  • Steve Lindsey
    Posted on October 23, 2011 at 11:07pm

    It‘s a shame that Sides got the benefit of four years of training and experience thanks to our Military yet apparently doesn’t remember why the Military exist. The story said she was an Air Force vet. I didn’t know the UN had one.

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  • grandmaof5
    Posted on October 23, 2011 at 11:07pm

    Seattle pretty much says all you need to know. Perhaps she should have her raised under Sharia Law, that would be much more ‘global’.

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    • Defends the TRUTH
      Posted on October 24, 2011 at 12:06am

      My thoughts exactly!!! SEATTLE…..need we say more….well, i will, what a crock of BEEP….She must have enlisted to get the benefits of college paid for or something like that…What VET. acts like that? Not any i know, that’s for sure

      HOOKED on Capitalism works for ME!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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    • MBCGRL
      Posted on October 24, 2011 at 2:40pm

      ‘Global’ is a bad word in my house.

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  • antisocial21
    Posted on October 23, 2011 at 11:07pm

    Wow, move to another country then. Amazes me that this lady swore to defend the constitution and yet she is offended by the fact that her daughter has to say the Pledge of Allegiance.

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  • Susan
    Posted on October 23, 2011 at 11:06pm

    Sad, just sad that its come to this! Maybe these parents have settled in the wrong nation. Pledging allegiance to your nation is not pledging allegiance to any politician, or agreeing with policies. Quite the opposite.

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  • Jas0n
    Posted on October 23, 2011 at 11:05pm

    Speaking as an air force veteran, I’m not suprised. We attract some of the smartest and bravest but at the same time we get these miscreants who think they‘re so smart they can’t possibly be mistaken. More than once I had to swallow thea lump in my throat and follow the orders of one of these imbeciles.

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  • TH30PH1LUS
    Posted on October 23, 2011 at 11:05pm

    IF it “pains” her so much to believe that America’s founding and history and Constitution set it apart from the others, then why did she swear sacred oaths to protect and defend it?

    EARTH TO IDIOTS: The Star Trek Federation is science fiction. Globalism is a lie – another word for communist dictatorship and tyranny. Get your head screwed on straight and read some history. It will help wash the LIBERAL dirt from your mind.

    AMERICA has saved the world from Facism and Communism, and staved off brutal famines and tragedies with UNSURPASSED generosity.

    America IS special.

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  • DaveOregon
    Posted on October 23, 2011 at 11:04pm

    Must have been assigned to the UN Peacekeeping forces. I can’t see ANY US Air Force or military veteran taking this position. ‘course – Seattle/Washington is a bastian of liberalism – it’s the rain and the mildew – eats the brain!!!!

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  • Lone Ranger
    Posted on October 23, 2011 at 11:03pm

    In my 24 years experience in the Air Force, I found that women were generally divided into two camps — the best people I had ever worked with, or total loons. This one falls into the latter category.

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  • oriondma05
    Posted on October 23, 2011 at 11:02pm

    She fracked a Jamaican, and now she’s mad that her kid is pledging the flag.. Need we say more?

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  • CatB
    Posted on October 23, 2011 at 11:01pm

    Wow the world is backwards and upside down .. btw my friends are upset that their childrens school don’t!

    They have gone so far as to buy a flag for the classroom and the teacher said it was “too big” .. it was a standard flag the kind we had in EVERY classroom when I went to school!

    TEA!

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  • colascguy
    Posted on October 23, 2011 at 11:01pm

    Wow if you ever needed a clue of what is wrong with twenty somethings in the US just read this again

    ‘It pains me to think that at a school that emphasizes thinking globally we would institute something that makes our children think that this country alone is where their allegiance lies,’ said Sides, her voice oscillating between disappointment and anger. ‘This has no educational value for young children. Absolutely none.’”

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    • phillipwgirard
      Posted on October 23, 2011 at 11:18pm

      yes my allegiance is to this country, where is hers, send her there!

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  • Welcome Black Carter
    Posted on October 23, 2011 at 10:59pm

    Deport her. She is speaking OWS language.

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  • britlynz
    Posted on October 23, 2011 at 10:59pm

    School choice.

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  • broker0101
    Posted on October 23, 2011 at 10:59pm

    “Think Globally, Act Idiotically”. Or something like that.

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  • harrylarris
    Posted on October 23, 2011 at 10:58pm

    If you don’t like America..get out. They’ve taken prayer away now you want the pledge out?

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  • wordweaver
    Posted on October 23, 2011 at 10:58pm

    Outrage? Really? Outrage? Of all the things you could be outraged at, lady, you chose the pledge of allegiance? You need to flee the communist stronghold of greater Seattle to the other more conservative regions of your state where we still have pride in our country. I apologize to readers outside of Washington. We’re going to try to straighten this out. Holy Cow.

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    • Hiswill
      Posted on October 24, 2011 at 2:59pm

      A few weeks in a North Korean work camp should do the trick.

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  • CottonMPG
    Posted on October 23, 2011 at 10:57pm

    Wow!!! If she has no allegiance to our country how did she serve in our military? She had to swear to protect and defend the constitution. Guess that was a LIE!!!!

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  • dogpatch65
    Posted on October 23, 2011 at 10:56pm

    This is an Air Force Veteran? Sheesh. Clearly not a member of Oathkeepers.

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  • crichton
    Posted on October 23, 2011 at 10:55pm

    Proof that even the military has its share of nut jobs.

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