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Al Sharpton Responds to Franklin Graham With Odd Description of ‘Real Christians’

Al Sharpton Responds to Graham on Obama & Defines Real Christians

If you missed the contentious dialogue between the Rev. Franklin Graham and the hosts of MSNBC’s “Morning Joe” on Tuesday morning, you had better go back and watch it first. The interview, during which Graham declined to say whether he believes Barack Obama and Mitt Romney are Christians, has captured headlines and has been extensively debated in the 24 hours since it aired.

Last night, Al Sharpton took to his MSNBC show “PoliticsNation,” where he offered a confusing rebuttal to Graham and a somewhat convoluted commentary on Christianity.

(Related: Rev. Franklin Graham Refuses to Say Obama & Romney Are Christians During Contentious MSNBC Interview)

“We’ve been hearing a lot of talk about faith and religion in recent days,” Sharpton proclaimed. “This morning, Franklin Graham went on national television to question President Obama’s Christian faith. And in Washington, we‘ve seen politicians using faith to attack women’s rights to health care.”

Then, he delved into the notion that faith has the potential to be a divider rather than a uniter, while uttering some words that many people of faith would actually agree upon (aside from the definition of “justice,” which, considering Sharpton’s activities and background, would be very different from an individual with a conservative worldview).

“The fact is religion has always had the potential to divide us…but it doesn’t have to be that way,” he said. “Our religious views can help us pull together. They can guide us toward justice…”

Now, here’s where his commentary takes a controversial turn.

“I am a Christian but I don’t require everyone to believe what I believe and share my faith. I believe in Jesus. I read and preached since I was a little boy,” Sharpton said. “A Jesus that healed the sick, opened blind eyes, opened deaf ears. But He never asked anyone he healed what faith they believed in and never told them they had to be with him in order to get healed.”

While Jesus didn’t blatantly ask individuals for their religious preference, it was their belief in him — in his ability to help them — that led to their physical healing. Thus, peoples’ faith in Christ, according to the Christian Bible, was the catalyst for their cures.

“Real Christians help heal people and help people,” he continued. “They don’t talk about it. Their works speak for themselves.”

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While Christians, at least according to the holy book they embrace, are commanded to help those in need, they are also commanded to share their faith. Take, for instance, Matthew 28:16-20, which reads:

Then the eleven disciples went to Galilee, to the mountain where Jesus had told them to go. When they saw him, they worshiped him; but some doubted. Then Jesus came to them and said, “All authority in heaven and on earth has been given to me. Therefore go and make disciples of all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit, and teaching them to obey everything I have commanded you. And surely I am with you always, to the very end of the age.”

Regardless of whether one believes Biblical doctrines, Sharpton’s take on the matter — that one doesn’t need “to talk about it” does seem to run somewhat contrary to Christianity’s central tenets. Additionally, his definition of healing and helping people is starkly different some others who may embrace more right-leaning ideologies.

While Graham spoke about being able to discern Christians’ faith from both their stated words and actions, Sharpton seems more concerned with seeing actions and allowing them to showcase, on their own, one’s faith. This is by no means a defense of Graham’s comments about Obama and the other presidential contenders, but it is necessary to differentiate the areas of focus that each individual pinpoints when defining Christianity.

“I think you have to ask President Obama…I think people have to ask Barack Obama — he‘s come out saying he’s a Christian. So, I think the question is ‘What is a Christian?,’” Graham said when asked about Obama’s faith yesterday.

It is this question — “What is a Christian?” — that seems to starkly divide people like Graham and Sharpton.

(H/T: Gateway Pundit)

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  • Uechi
    Posted on February 22, 2012 at 10:27am

    Sharpton is about a Christian as Obama or Jeramiah Wright. They are Liberation Theologists which is a polite term for Marxist!

     
    • encinom
      Posted on February 22, 2012 at 10:45am

      Chirst’s views were socialist.

       
    • MONICNE
      Posted on February 22, 2012 at 10:52am

      You have to love Reverend Al, he will not be silenced by criticism.

      Reverend Graham, however, seems strangely silent now that the DemonRat critics are playing his spoken words on the lamestream news shows. I wonder if he is intentionally being stifled to protect Saint Rick.

      Also, this being February, let’s give Al Sharpton the recognition he deserves as a ground breaking diversity journalist who is a credit to our country.

      TEA

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    • mermaid7
      Posted on February 22, 2012 at 10:54am

      Obama’s spiritual advisor, Jim Wallis says that ‘redistribution of wealth in society which is what the gospel is all about.”

      That is NOT Biblical docturine but a false one.

      Obama went to Jeremiah Wright’s church for 20 years. Is it a christian thing to say after 9/11 that “America’s chickens are coming home, to roost!” Wright, Wallis and Obama are NOT christians.

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    • copatriots
      Posted on February 22, 2012 at 10:55am

      Do they give you extra credit ENCI for antagonistic posts? You are a socialist so you want to line up the Bible to what you belief. What church are you a member of, ENCI?

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    • TxSon
      Posted on February 22, 2012 at 10:57am

      How do you spell moron? encinom

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    • NHwinter
      Posted on February 22, 2012 at 10:59am

      Encinom – you are ridiculous. That has been disgusted ad nauseum. Jesus was NOT a socialist! Read the Parable of the Talents. He also said if your don’t work, you don’t eat. If one were to ask, who is more Christian, Al or Rev. Graham, I believe the answer would be very easy.

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    • Chromo200
      Posted on February 22, 2012 at 11:09am

      encinom

      Christ did not say the gov’t should take of you. He told every individual to as a person to help the needy. We are to obey the gov’t unless it conflicts with Gods words and directions.

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    • encinom
      Posted on February 22, 2012 at 11:12am

      All the believers were together and had everything in common. They sold property and possessions to give to anyone who had need. Acts 2 44, 45

      Sounds like an early Jesus commune to me.

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    • CMDR6
      Posted on February 22, 2012 at 11:18am

      encinom……I won’t condemn you, your own words are doing that. I pray that Jesus has mercy on you. Lord, he/she/it, they know not what they do…..
      For the record, Jesus was no socialist, and if you were to just read the bible, you to would understand that the Jesus was more of a compasionate capitalist. Heck, jsut read the Lord’s prayer…we ask GOD for our daily bread, not Pres Obama. Also, Jesus never told/insinuated/infered or implied to the people to look to Ceaser as their source, yet respect the authority. Jesus told each individual who follows him to look after other individuals…..not pay more taxes to “help” more people. Government of today is trying to REPLACE God as the peoples source. Gov’t as the provider of health care, nutrition, sustinance, water, air, etc…….According to people like you, we would all die if it were not for government, government is the answer……well as for me an my house we will serve the Lord.

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    • Gonzo
      Posted on February 22, 2012 at 11:19am

      Encinom
      They did that voluntarily, the government didn’t force them. Try and get that concept into your little pea sized brain.

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    • Iswingright
      Posted on February 22, 2012 at 11:28am

      @encinom

      Spoken like a true Marxist and someone ignorant of the Bible.

      First, you’ll notice He said, “BELIEVERS”! That is, those who are in the Church. In this situation (and in most situations) it refers to the local church that a believer belongs to. Not every Tom, Dick, and Lazy.

      Additionally, it was, in this context, for the purpose of establishing the early Church.

      Moreover, Jesus said that each believer was to give according to their ability and from their heart. He never intended for the government to TAKE your money UNWILLINGLY, and then distribute it to THEIR liking.

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    • encinom
      Posted on February 22, 2012 at 11:36am

      @Iswingright

      “Additionally, it was, in this context, for the purpose of establishing the early Church.” the early church was a socialist or even a communist commune.

      “Moreover, Jesus said that each believer was to give according to their ability and from their heart” kind of sounds like Marx’s “From each according to his abilities, to each according to his needs.”

      Does Beck know that they are teaching the radical socialist message of Christ in Churches, to children in Sunday school? I bet Beck is all over this.

       
    • The_Jerk
      Posted on February 22, 2012 at 11:42am

      ENCINOM, “Chirst’s views were socialist.”

      No, they are not. Christ’s good deeds were volitional. Socialist perceived good deeds are coerced. You do know the difference?

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    • yohannbiimu
      Posted on February 22, 2012 at 11:43am

      encinom, in what way was Christ “socialist?” Explain yourself. Read Christ’s description of what the Kingdom of God is like in Matthew 20:1-16, and tell me if that is a socialist ideal, or is it an idea that is more on the side of capitalism and personal freedom? Christ’s teachings are the antithesis of collectivism.

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    • The_Jerk
      Posted on February 22, 2012 at 11:45am

      Sorry Gonzo, we viewed the same light. I didn’t get to your comment before I responded. Oh well, deserved repeating.

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    • PPMStudios
      Posted on February 22, 2012 at 11:45am

      @ ENCINOM

      You are completely clueless. Does “God helps those who help themselves” sound socialist to you?

      Sounds pretty Conservative to me….

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    • This_Individual
      Posted on February 22, 2012 at 11:49am

      Encinom, Jesus was a libertarian.

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    • pocfavorite
      Posted on February 22, 2012 at 11:51am

      @Encinom: If I thought you knew anything about Jesus and his teachings I would tell you how wrong you are.

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    • rush_is_right
      Posted on February 22, 2012 at 11:52am

      as usual enci twists the scripture, like a good socialist…

      the bible DESCRIBES what happened in the jerusalem church….and no other church, that we know of, tried it…because it FAILED.

      that was not a command of God….the bible describes children being sacrificed to molech….too bad the libs have made that their holy communion…..

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    • RJJinGadsden
      Posted on February 22, 2012 at 11:52am

      ENCINOM, Bless your pointy little head. Christ and the bible teach us to be charitable, which is in no way socialism. Stop fooling yourself and stop trying to tell us those lies. Here, go to this site, if you are not already a member and read it. You may have to join to do so, http://www.americansocialists.org/ . Then compare the rules of actual socialism to the bible and particularly the teachings of Christ. If you still come to the same conclusions then we’ll pray for you.

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    • Windwalker
      Posted on February 22, 2012 at 11:53am

      Christ’s views were not socialist. Not once did he suggest marching on Ceasar’s palace, the ruling political force du jour.to obtain “social justice” for the masses. He NEVER suggested that Christians look to a ruling government to supply their needs. He simply stated “render unto Ceasar what is Ceasars”, and render unto God what is Gods. As Christians, we are called to look to God for our spiritual needs and our sustinance. If believers mentioned in the gospels were to be able to “get on the road” so to spread the gospel, it would have been necessary to sell what you owned, pick up and literally get moving. It is idiotic to actually believe everyone who believed could not have been gamefully employed, or ran a business, a farm, etc. If that had not been the case, there would have been no funds to collect to help the “poor saints in Jerusalem” to just name a few. Al Sharpton may be in the fold inspite of himself, but collective salvation (or liberation theology) is NOT even a consideration in the salvation equation Jesus Christ preached. We are saved one by one by our individual faith and trust in Jesus Christ, not as a group. Aside from the scriptures, Margaret Thatcher said it well, “socialism works fine until you run out of other peoples money”

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    • encinom
      Posted on February 22, 2012 at 11:56am

      PPMStudios
      Posted on February 22, 2012 at 11:45am
      @ ENCINOM

      You are completely clueless. Does “God helps those who help themselves” sound socialist to you?

      Sounds pretty Conservative to me….
      _____________________
      I agree that quote those sound Conservative, and it is found no where in the bible, meaning Conservatives worship a false god, maybe even the anti-christ.

       
    • So
      Posted on February 22, 2012 at 12:01pm

      Watch out. Sharpton has his scary, “I mean it.”, face on.

      Hey Al, how about you disclose how much money you make. Then give it away like you tell others to do.

      Uh huh. Didn’t think so.

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    • Favored93
      Posted on February 22, 2012 at 12:03pm

      @encinom
      Christ Jesus was NOT a socialist! Not once did he say Govt.’s should take from one to give to another!
      We are told to GIVE not have it taken by a corrupt Govt. so they can spend 90% and the other ten may find it’s way to a poor person.
      You are ignorant about Christ Jesus and should study before you speak.

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    • Miami
      Posted on February 22, 2012 at 12:07pm

      Are you kidding me?

      This hypocrite is talking about faith, MLK is spinning in his grave fast enough to create an electrical charge.

      Actions? Lets see his donations and his work for poor White people or Hispanics for that matter, this race-baiter who’s responsible for so much hatred. Stocking the racial divide, instead of uniting us for a person who’s fortunate enough to be in his position. .

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    • db321
      Posted on February 22, 2012 at 12:09pm

      I call BS – Sharpton – tell us who said 911 was caused by Gays. Obama by his Words and Deed have demonstrated that his Christian values leave somewhat to be desired – If Obama was a Preacher in a Church that I was attending – I would leave and find another.

      I’m not drinking the Tea that Obama or Jim Jones is serving. You are a sell out Sharptom. Were not afraid of you, Van Jones or Soros. The Truth will Win!

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    • nomorpc4me
      Posted on February 22, 2012 at 12:09pm

      Encinom,

      Christ’s teaching were socialist??? Gimme a break. Christ teaching were divine and His kingdom will be a benevolent monarchy. Read His word and learn, because His truth will set you free.

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    • encinom
      Posted on February 22, 2012 at 12:10pm

      @Windwalker
      No collective salvation, we should not bear the burdens of our brothers?

      Brethren, if a man is 1overtaken in any trespass, you who are spiritual restore such a one in a spirit of agentleness, considering yourself lest you also be tempted. 2 bear one another’s burdens, and so fulfill the law of Christ. Galatians 6:1–2

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    • PALucier
      Posted on February 22, 2012 at 12:12pm

      Christ’s views are NOT socialist. Nowhere did he say for those with two coats to give one to the State so they can redistribute it. Charity in a Christian’s heart stems from love, obedience to what he or she believes of God’s revealed will, and chooses freely and deliberately to give. Socialism is LEGISLATED by corrupt men AGAINST YOUR FREE WILL in an attempt to make all things equal! Jesus never promised equal results or equal stuff for everyone.

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    • paperpushermj
      Posted on February 22, 2012 at 12:15pm

      I am a Christian but I don’t require everyone to believe what I believe and share my faith. I believe in Jesus.
      ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
      No Al you are a Race Hustler who might not as you say “Require” people to share your faith but you do want your Political View Point to be Preeminent.

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    • Favored93
      Posted on February 22, 2012 at 12:16pm

      @encinom
      Posted on February 22, 2012 at 11:12am

      All the believers were together and had everything in common. They sold property and possessions to give to anyone who had need. Acts 2 44, 45

      Sounds like an early Jesus commune to me.
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      Your ignorance is showing.
      They DECIDED to share what they had. They did not have it taken and redistributed.
      Acts 5:3 – 3 But Peter said, “Ananias, why has Satan filled your heart to lie to the Holy Spirit and keep back part of the price of the land for yourself? 4 While it remained, WAS IT NOT YOUR OWN (caps added)? And after it was sold, was it not in YOUR OWN CONTROL (again caps added)? Why have you conceived this thing in your heart? You have not lied to men but to God.” …
      You see here that though they shared all things it was a choice. Ananias and his wife Sapphira were not killed because they did not give but because they LIED TO THE HOLY SPIRIT!!!! Men did not kill them but God did. It was not a “rule” to share it was out of love that the first church shared what they had.
      Your premise is an ignorant and intentional twisting of scripture. Study before you speak.

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    • RANGER1965
      Posted on February 22, 2012 at 12:21pm

      In response to Ecinom. Christ’s views were not socialism, communism, democracy, republicanism.

      The closest thing to a human system of goverment would be a full blown monarchy with a single king having absolute power.

      …and that King being eternal, and unchanging.

      Christ did want us to treat each other with kindness, love, and respect. He wanted us to sacrifice ourselves to serve God, and help others. He did preach a very SOCIAL view. He did not preach SOCIALISM, which is as far as I can tell, a system of goverment that was forged in Hell itself.

      There is no system of goverment on this planet that in the name of “fairness” sacrifices every good and true thing. Love, honor, respect, self determination, and freedom itself is crushed under the weight of such evil.

      The closest thing that I know of that provides an example of such a system in full flower, is JRR Tolkien’s Mordor in The Lord of the Rings, and the servants of such a system being Orcs.

      In my opinion, keeping such evil from our nation is the battle of this age for all good Americans. If there ever was a “Good Fight”, this is it.

      RANGER

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    • gramma b
      Posted on February 22, 2012 at 12:24pm

      Let’s see . . . Sharpton’s Christian “works.“ Leading protests against Jewish ”White interlopers” in Harlem that led to the arson death of seven people in Freddie’ Fashion Mart. Standing alongside Tawana Brawley, trying to ruin White officials with lies. Evading a valid judgment by claiming not to own anything. The man is a stupid, thuggish buffoon.

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    • Favored93
      Posted on February 22, 2012 at 12:28pm

      @PPMStudios
      Posted on February 22, 2012 at 11:45am

      @ ENCINOM

      You are completely clueless. Does “God helps those who help themselves” sound socialist to you?

      Sounds pretty Conservative to me….
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      I have to correct this.
      the phrase “God helps those who help themselves” is found NOWHERE IN ALL OF SCRIPTURE!!!
      Jesus bled and died to save those who could NOT help themselves. Be careful what you attribute to God. If we could do it on our own we would not need Jesus.
      Socialism is legal Govt. THEFT!
      I work Govt. comes and at the point of a gun takes and tells me “it’s for the poor”. LOL ya those “poor” politicians. Jesus tells us to GIVE! If it is taken by force I can’t be credited with GIVING it!!!!

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    • Fiscallytead
      Posted on February 22, 2012 at 12:32pm

      encinom,

      Christ is concerned with the heart of man, not economic and political philosophy. He talked about giving to the poor and following him, not the goverment being all things to all people.

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    • IMPEACHBHO
      Posted on February 22, 2012 at 12:39pm

      It is clear “collective salvation” is NOT Christianity. Really, the left just wants to pit believers against non-believers, just like his class warfare. BHO is using this to distract from his Marxist agenda to bring this country down. – FOCUS – JOBS, NATIONAL DEBT, BAD FOREIGN POLICY, CRIPPLING OUR MILITARY, OBAMACARE, IGNORING OUR CONSTITUTION, IGNORING OUR LAWS, ETC. BHO IS A DISASTER TO THIS COUNTRY AND MUST BE TOSSED OUT. PERIOD.

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    • Favored93
      Posted on February 22, 2012 at 12:43pm

      @encinom
      Posted on February 22, 2012 at 12:10pm

      @Windwalker
      No collective salvation, we should not bear the burdens of our brothers?

      Brethren, if a man is 1overtaken in any trespass, you who are spiritual restore such a one in a spirit of agentleness, considering yourself lest you also be tempted. 2 bear one another’s burdens, and so fulfill the law of Christ. Galatians 6:1–2
      ————————-
      HAHAHAHA
      Wow you can’t really be this ignorant!!! I am most likely wasting my time but you really think that “bearing another’s burden” equates to collective salvation????? That is an act of kindness not “I can not be saved unless you are…”
      What a foolish thing to say!
      Jesus said in John 3:3…
      Jesus answered and said to him, “Most assuredly, I say to you, unless ONE is born again, HE cannot see the kingdom of God.” (caps added)
      ONE is not collective nor is HE. ONE means ONE not “unless your neighbor is saved you can’t be…”
      Don’t be so foolish and arrogant as to think my salvation is dependent on yours.
      There are MANY other scriptures that say we must decide for ourselves to choose Jesus or reject Him but I do not have the time or room to show you.

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    • westtitus
      Posted on February 22, 2012 at 12:46pm

      Jesus Christ’s views were NOT Socialist, period end of story, If you don’t know your Bible you should not be commenting at all. He said the poor would be with us always and you can count on that because of poverty pimps like Al Sharpton and Jesse Jackson. Read your Bible and don’t take one scripture and take it out of context. Read the ENTIRE Chapter to find the context in which God is speaking.

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    • watchtheotherhand
      Posted on February 22, 2012 at 12:51pm

      ENCINOM……….someone who has no use for the Bible except to twist it to try and make a point that is absolutely ridiculous. It does not say they were all equal in wealth or lived in a commune, they loved one another and didn’t want someone with needs to suffer, but I guarantee you if someone could have worked and simply did not they would have received nothing (2 Thessalonians 3:10
      For even when we were with you, we gave you this rule: “The one who is unwilling to work shall not eat.”). It simply says that they sold what they had and gave to anyone in need. They did not necessarily sell off all they had and they certainly were not forced to do it by a government until everyone had the same amount. Your lack of biblical understanding and lame attempt to use the word that you have total disdain for is like me trying to use Sal Alinsky tactics on you. BTW the verse you posted is exactly what many people are using to argue against your beloved Statist desire. Let the church and people take care of their neighbors and those in need not a government bureaucrat. Like the disciples you are mistaken. The poor will always be with us.

      Matthew 26 :9-11

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    • VerySeniorCitizen
      Posted on February 22, 2012 at 12:53pm

      I like your Christ. I do not like your Christians. They are so unlike your Christ.
      (Ghandi)

      Blessed are the poor in spirit, for theirs is the kingdom of heaven.

      Blessed are they who mourn, for they shall be comforted.

      Blessed are the meek, for they shall inherit the earth.

      Blessed are they who hunger and thirst for righteousness, for they shall be satisfied.

      Blessed are the merciful, for they shall obtain mercy.

      Blessed are the pure of heart, for they shall see God.

      Blessed are the peacemakers, for they shall be called children of God.

      Blessed are they who are persecuted for the sake of righteousness,
      for theirs is the kingdom of heaven.”
      (Jesus)
      Gospel of St. Matthew 5:3-10

      Unfortunately those who claim to be Christians today do not act out their Christianity!! Sorry to burst the bubble!

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    • Ari Ben TZion
      Posted on February 22, 2012 at 12:55pm

      What a disgusting and vile, lice infected cockroach this guy is.

      I can’t even understand how some blacks can like this guy.

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    • oneshiner
      Posted on February 22, 2012 at 12:58pm

      Try the spirits to see if they are of God! You know them by their fruit, and any person who votes to keep and use late term abortions is not a Christian. A nurse told about finding a late term baby in the laundry room of a hospital, put there to die. She cradled the baby to help comfort it’s last few minutes.

      The vision stays with me and I could never call anyone involved with this heinous crime a Christian.
      Yes, Satan abounds and too many of us are fooled by his cunning.

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    • ahull15
      Posted on February 22, 2012 at 12:58pm

      @encinom

      Can you please explain to me how you’ve come to that conclusion? None of Christ’s teachings promote any political ideology as far as I can see.
      The Bible does say in 2 Thessalonians 3:10, that if you’re not willing to work then neither should you eat.

      Can you please give me one example of Jesus telling his disciples to give their money to the government so the government can then give that money to people who are in need.

      One more point. It’s funny to me how liberals are always trying to make the argument that Jesus is a socialist, and yet they reject Him. They don’t want to hear about the teachings of “being separate from the world.” Or, putting to death your earthly nature: sexual immorality, uncleanness, evil desire, covetousness.

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    • hometown
      Posted on February 22, 2012 at 1:05pm

      Jesus’ view is that of a voluntary Socialist. Much different than what most people think of as socialist. Jesus believed in sharing with others in need from the kindness of your heart. Socialism is about forcibly taking from the haves to give to the have not’s and maybe a little to the elite too when nobody is looking.

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    • smithclar3nc3
      Posted on February 22, 2012 at 1:06pm

      You have to love Reverend Al, he will not be silenced by criticism
      Yeah he’s certainly an open your mouth and remove all doubt kinda guy………….LOL

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    • hometown
      Posted on February 22, 2012 at 1:10pm

      Jesus’ view is that of a voluntary Socialist. Much different than what most people think of as socialist. Jesus believed in sharing with others in need from the kindness of your heart. Socialism is about forcibly taking from the haves to give to the have not’s (and maybe a little to the elite when nobody is looking).

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    • 1776_2012
      Posted on February 22, 2012 at 1:11pm

      Keep telling yourself that, ENCINOM. Your ignorance is on full display.

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    • GeorgieJo
      Posted on February 22, 2012 at 1:16pm

      RevySharpton is delusional plus he NEEDS TO PAY HIS TAXES
      Oh wait—-He got a Obummer waiver

      OMG 2012

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    • Windwalker
      Posted on February 22, 2012 at 1:16pm

      @encinom

      There is nothing “collective” about helping a fellow believer one on one. It is commanded that we come to the aid of those in need, especially spiritually, and this passage tends to lead one to believe the example given was a spiritual need not a physical as we are talking sin in this admonition. I would suggest you might want to research liberation theology and get a handle on just what this corrupt view of the gospel of our Lord really teaches. In fact, even better Enconom, I would suggest you get saved. The Holy Spirit has a way of opening all eyes of those who trust Jesus Christ for eternity.

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    • gsplgtr
      Posted on February 22, 2012 at 1:24pm

      ENCINON I wish you could show me the biblical verses that speak to that? I do know where Jesus said “My kingdom is NOT of this earth”. That would be Heaven. He also said “I am the way, the truth and the life. No man comes to the Father(read gets to heaven) bu tby Me(Jesus).” So where exactly is the socialism?

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    • balance2scale
      Posted on February 22, 2012 at 1:28pm

      I do not understand Al Sharpton, I only know he is a threat to all that love freedom. We need to stand up in big numbers before they finish stealing our childrens future. Rev Wright sent Obama out to work the streets to teach Acorn how to insult people into giving them money. Obama can not be reelected, he is a true Saul Alinsky student. Always remember Saul praised the devil. Obama praises Saul.

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    • encinom
      Posted on February 22, 2012 at 1:29pm

      Do you think that the man who spoke the following:
      Blessed are the poor in spirit, for theirs is the kingdom of heaven.
      Blessed are they who mourn, for they shall be comforted.
      Blessed are the meek, for they shall inherit the earth.
      Blessed are they who hunger and thirst for righteousness, for they shall be satisfied.
      Blessed are the merciful, for they shall obtain mercy.
      Blessed are the pure of heart, for they shall see God.
      Blessed are the peacemakers, for they shall be called children of God.

      Would endorse the views of Ayn Rand or would he favor those that believe they are their brother’s keeper and that our salvation is dependant on who we help our brothers succeed.

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    • Uhavegot2Bkidding
      Posted on February 22, 2012 at 1:30pm

      ECINOM

      No, Jesus was not a socialist. Socialism is about the government taking care of those in need. Jesus said that the second most important law was to love you neighbor as you love youself. In other words, take care of each other. The Old testament asks you yo tithe which is akin to a flat tax, not very socialistic. Martin Luther shook up the Catholic Church power structure. Along with Reformation that Luther started came Capitalism. THe same ideas that freed people from the ruling of the then Catholic Church broke the Feudal System and ushered in Capitalism. Jesus was not a socialist. He believed in personal responsibility.

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    • Hollywood
      Posted on February 22, 2012 at 1:33pm

      BLT does teach there are NO redemptive qualities in “Whites” Does seem a bit RASCIST,and ANTI-Christian to me. And YE shall KNOW THEM by THEIR works!
      Maranatha

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    • voiceofreason305
      Posted on February 22, 2012 at 1:41pm

      Christians are delusional. God sent himself to earth to sacrifice himself to save us from himself…

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    • DYNA
      Posted on February 22, 2012 at 1:43pm

      @Enicom

      Jesus is the Christ, the only means to and mediator between man and God. Those who choose and put their trust in another god, whether it be man, authorities, or government, will have their sorrows multiplied and not see any good come because they are blinded to the Gospel that Christ purchased their freedom from the curse (doom) of the law by becoming a curse for us.

      Jesus, Who now sits at the right hand side of the Father, waits in part for His enemies to be put under His feet. His enemies include spiritual powers of darkness in high places. Jesus actually defeated Satan about 2000 years ago, but those who choose to walk in darkness over Light, permit satan, the father of lies, to have rule in their own lives. This is the choice between Life and death,and blessings and curses. A choice that will exist until the very near second coming of Christ.

      Also note that His enemies include men who do not repent from being enemies of His cross.
      Men that exchange the Truth of God for a lie. Men that choose darkness, satan the father of lies, over Light. They deny that Jesus has come in the flesh and has been raised from the dead as Lord of lords and King of kings.

      Jesus is not the false god of socialism. Jesus did not come to bring all men together. Jesus came as a Seed sown in order that there might be a good harvest of wheat. This wheat will be separated from the chaff and was purchased by His blood as revealed by His Holy Spirit. Jesus came to separate.

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    • steelreserve
      Posted on February 22, 2012 at 1:46pm

      A christian is someone who believes in Christ. Plain and simple. Getting into the formal practices of each religion is where they become different. They all began as the belief in Jesus Christ and branched off based on political factors causing turmoil within the churches.

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    • PubliusMaximus
      Posted on February 22, 2012 at 1:46pm

      Jesus was a Socialist. Yes, you should bear in mind Jesus‘ words when presented with the coin bearing Caesar’s image.
      “Render everything unto Caesar; Caesar will then take your tax money and render unto God what is God’s.”

      Wait. Did I get that wrong?

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    • 4XGrace
      Posted on February 22, 2012 at 1:52pm

      Both Al and Franklin are in it (christianity) for the money. They don’t give a rats a** about Faith, Jesus Christ and what it means to be a true follower of Christ. So anything that comes out of their mouths will lies and deceit mean to bring money to themselves and direct worship away from God. Their focus is on men.
      The true believer in Christ does not need these people to speak for them or to tell them who is or is not a Christian. We are called to test the spirits and if they are not of Christ we are called to name them.
      Don’t be a fool and live your “christian” life according to what these people preach. Get the real Bible (AV) go to God asking for wisdom and being ready to obey his commands and then read in faith God will to talk to you. Don’t rear up in pride for God will reject you.

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    • watchtheotherhand
      Posted on February 22, 2012 at 1:53pm

      @ ENCINOM………I almost feel sorry for you because you are trying to fight a battle with weapons you don’t know how to use. You said, “they are their brother’s keeper and that our salvation is dependant on who we help our brothers succeed.” This statement alone shows you know nothing of the Bible, it’s message, salvation or what Jesus taught. You have an ideology that you are trying desperately to justify by twisting and distorting scripture and the teachings therein to fit your ideology. It doesn‘t and won’t ever fit. You love to cherry pick this or that verse totally out of context and then throw some twisted socialistic meaning to it. You try to put others on the defensive as if we have to justify to you what was taught in the Bible. You are an ideologue and unless your eyes are opened that is all you will ever be. Jesus said to the Pharisees that used the scriptures in a similar fashion as you are doing, You study[c] the Scriptures diligently because you think that in them you have eternal life. These are the very Scriptures that testify about me, 40 yet you refuse to come to me to have life. John 5

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    • copatriots
      Posted on February 22, 2012 at 1:58pm

      @ VERYSENIORCITIZEN

      Yet another Saulbot. Yep, Christians could walk the walk of our faith much better than we do. But we also know that God gives us grace for each day and most do our best to grow in Spiritual maturity all the days of our lives. We surely won’t be perfected or made complete until we are in heaven with our Blessed Savior. You (as was Ghandi, for that matter) are looking to the wrong place if you are looking to Christians as the example. One should look to Christ and Him alone as the Perfect Standard.

      With that said, tell me how so many Christian churches were built in this country through generous giving. Tell me how Christian missionaries are supported and care for the impoverished and spread God’s love and word around the world. Tell me why Christians are usually among the first responders in any natural disaster. Tell me why Christians give percentage-wise more to charity than non-believers.

      Perhaps you would be willing to share your personal giving of time and money and wisdom throughout your advanced years so that we may use your example of how to live out the Beatitudes.

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    • Vechorik
      Posted on February 22, 2012 at 1:59pm

      The most glaring weakness in the case for Santorum’s electability is that 2006 re-election loss. After two terms in the Senate, the voters of Pennsylvania simply threw Santorum out on his ear.

      Why did Santorum lose so badly?

      61 percent of voters said they disapproved of the war. Santorum lost among them, 15 percent to Casey’s 85 percent. Among the largest subgroup of war opponents, the 42 percent of voters who said they strongly disapproved of the war, Santorum was routed 93 percent to 7 percent. That by itself was enough to doom any hopes for a third term.

      Santorum lost 66 percent to 34 percent among voters to whom the economy was a critical issue. Santorum even ran disappointingly on values issues

      Finally, there was Santorum’s personality. In the Senate as well as in his home state, Santorum often struck people as arrogant and headstrong, preachy and judgmental. Even today, he sometimes becomes so involved in an argument that he seems intent more on winning the argument than reaching some sort of useful agreement. Throughout his career Santorum has always maintained that his forthrightness means everyone knows where he stands. Sometimes it means people know they don’t like him.

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    • copatriots
      Posted on February 22, 2012 at 2:03pm

      ENCI, you avoided my question earlier. What church do you belong to? Also, tell us how you are personally living out the Blessed Beatitudes you like to quote. I’m sure your experience would be invaluable to us all. Also, you avoided the question. Where is it quoted that Jesus wants us to give to a corrupt and irresponsible government so they can skim off the top and bankrupt us all? The Beatitudes are an amazing example of choosing to follow Christ and giving to His church voluntarily and directly.

      Oh and ENCI, you should post your tax returns so we can see how much you pay in taxes as well as personally give to charity. Now we wouldn‘t expect you to lie since you quote God’s word with such conviction.

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    • TomFerrari
      Posted on February 22, 2012 at 2:06pm

      TROLL alert -
      “monicne” aka “encinom” aka “moncine”
      Just IGNORE them. They want you to attack them.
      Do not give them the satisfaction.
      Stay on topic. Work for solutions to our nation’s problems.
      Ignore the trolls. That is the single best way to get their goat.

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    • NHwinter
      Posted on February 22, 2012 at 2:09pm

      voiceofreason – that is the most absurb statement I have EVER heard. But at least you acknowledge there is a God.

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    • jlcook
      Posted on February 22, 2012 at 2:18pm

      @ encionman or what ever, If Jesus was a socialist if not communist, why is that communist Russia closed all the churches, dumba**

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    • TomFerrari
      Posted on February 22, 2012 at 2:18pm

      Let’s keep in mind… Being “a Christian” is not the same thing as “a christian act” or “a christian nation.”

      As a NOUN, “A Christian” is one who has accepted Jesus Christ, and His salvation, and strives to live a Christ-like life. Warming a pew occasionally, doesn’t make you a Christian, any more than wearing a stethescope makes you a brain surgeon. The Gospel teaches us we must have BOTH FAITH AND WORKS.

      As an ADJECTIVE, (small ‘c’) “a christian act,” on the other hand, is an act that one would expect to see from “a Christian” Many non-Christians do Christ-like things (“christian acts”)

      And, as an ADJECTIVE, (small ‘c’) “a christian nation” is a nation WHOSE PEOPLE exhibit the character traits typical of “Christians.“ Being comprised of a majority of ”Christians“ does not make a nation ”Christian.” Being a GOOD people, and HONEST people, a LOVING people, a CHARITABLE people – that is what makes us “a christian nation!”

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    • DYNA
      Posted on February 22, 2012 at 2:30pm

      @encinom
      you wrote
      “All the believers were together and had everything in common. They sold property and possessions to give to anyone who had need. Acts 2 44, 45
      Sounds like an early Jesus commune to me.”

      The Scripture is the total opposite of socialism.

      First of all they were all believers that heard the Word and believed It. And all the giving was voluntary. These were free will offerings. They were not paying taxes to a goverment.

      The Liberals may call it sharing but compelling some one else to “share” is better known as stealing.
      Hell awaits those who pursue the practice of stealing.

      Also note that only the believers received the gifts. In fact Jesus only fed those that would seek Him and hear Him.

      By disdaining His good news that salvation only comes by His sacrifice on the cross and His resurrection from the dead, liberals and socialists become haters of Jesus.

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    • mr molotov cocktail
      Posted on February 22, 2012 at 2:30pm

      liberation theology is directly from the puritans and pilgrims…hate them damn socialist founders~

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    • dalebrendan
      Posted on February 22, 2012 at 2:30pm

      @Encinom

      “Chirst’s views were socialist.”
      “All the believers were together and had everything in common. They sold property and possessions to give to anyone who had need. Acts 2 44, 45″

      “…they SOLD property and possessions” …capitalism …”to give to ANYONE in need.” …Charity.

      They did not SELL their possessions to GIVE to the GOVERNMENT to redistribute. That is socialism and that is not the teachings of Christ. “Render to Caesar the things that are Caesar’s, and to God the things that are God’s.”

      …you have it 100% backwards.

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    • azitdad
      Posted on February 22, 2012 at 2:34pm

      Christ’s views were NOT socilaist. Under Socilaism, all rights freedoms and liberties are doled out by the State – you have no expectation of being free unless the State tells you so.

      In Christ’s view, we each are children of God, endowed by Him to choose good or evil. We are agents unto ourselves, meaning we are born with rights, liberties, and freedoms. They are give to us at birth, by God.

      Under Socilaism, our surplus is taken from us by the State and distributed as the State wishes.

      Under Christianity, we are each expected to give of our time, and our surplus WILLINGLY because we love God and know that serving others is our highest Commandment. It is not compulsory. We do so according to our faith.

      Under Socialism, the State has supreme authority. All religons submit to the State.

      Under Christianity, God is supreme.

      Any questions?

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    • EWRoss
      Posted on February 22, 2012 at 2:39pm

      Christ was not a socialist. “”Render unto Caesar the things which are Caesar’s, and unto God the things that are God’s.” The fundamental tenet of socialism is ownership and control of the means of production and Christ never preached such a doctorine.

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    • EastCarowick
      Posted on February 22, 2012 at 2:50pm

      For those who think Christ was socialist, read Matthew 25: 15-30.

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    • DYNA
      Posted on February 22, 2012 at 2:59pm

      @azitdad

      Good point. And more concisely as many who are lead by the Holy Spirit of God are the children of God . The leading includes when, what, and who to give to. It is not imposed by the government of men.

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    • robinakilt
      Posted on February 22, 2012 at 3:05pm

      @Encinom Jesus was not a Socialist. A Socialist implies GOVERNMENT taking from one group of people to redistribute to another so things can be fair. Jesus was about each person helping one another of their own…wait for it……FREE WILL. Show me scripture where Jesus or God says that Government should be used to take the rewards of one man’s hard work to give to another man who gave nothing.

      You quote the book of Acts but I cannot find the part in my Bible where Jesus had the government come in and take what they had to sell it to give to the needy. They as individual decided to sell what they owned to give. There is a HUGE difference.

      You must be a legalistic Christian if you are one at all I have about as much love for them as I do progressives…NONE.

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    • Parrott
      Posted on February 22, 2012 at 3:06pm

      encinom and those arguing with him:

      Socialism, Capitalism and all things between are our attempt to deal with scarcity in an imperfect world. They are both very flawed systems. Both have strengths. Jesus was perfection, so he would endorse neither. Because we failed to allow God to govern us, we must govern ourselves. Socialism preys on our lazy nature. Capitalism preys on our greed. Neither can work. I turn to history though and capitalism provides the best opportunity for success. It allows for individuals to pursue productivity and doesn’t limit generosity. To view Jesus as a ‘socialist’ requires that you assume the government should step in and mandate and administer these activities. This has led to horrific failures in human history. Our American history shows that when you allow individuals to strive to be like Christ, you have more success. You can’t expect a government to be like Christ. When a government has authority over the people it leads to tyranny and oppression every time. That is not opinion, it is fact. I don’t think that is what Jesus had in mind. We are to give to Caesar (the governing authority) what is Caesar’s, no matter what system we live under. After all, these authorities can not take anything of eternal value from us. In a free society, these authorities cannot hide the light of Christ. Socialism leads to a powerful government that can.

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    • mdeputy7
      Posted on February 22, 2012 at 3:08pm

      @Encinom.

      I’ve noticed you only respond to those you think you can beat in a debate. Well good luck responding to this.

      You have such a skewed and incorrect view of Christianity…of how to be saved. First of all, no. You cannot be saved by ANY works…even if they are “helping your brothers succeed.” That is EXACTLY why Jesus came. We cannot save ourselves. We must accept His perfect gift. You need to quit trying to put Jesus into the mold you have made for Him. He was perfect. Yes, in a perfect world, socialism would be great. But He knew this was not a perfect world. He knew that some would push themselves and others wouldn’t. By saying that Jesus was socialist, you blaspheme Him. You do exactly what so many people out there have done throughout history to incite violence and hate. You take the words of Scripture, you isolate them, and you twist them into looking like what you want them to look like. There is a very powerful evil being who sounds just like that. Please reconsider your tactics. Please reconsider your views.

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    • photobymike
      Posted on February 22, 2012 at 3:09pm

      No Christ message was not socialism!!!… Time is close at at hand for the separation of the wheat and chaff (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chaff) As a believer people like Al Sharpton have made me jaded and cynical. Please Lord come back and save us from ignorance, stupidity like rev Al etl…

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    • Jedidavid
      Posted on February 22, 2012 at 3:13pm

      @enicon Satan‘s counterfeit to God’s plan is socialism its a close match but it is so far off he would get no pouints in game of horseshoes.

      Did anyone notice how wrong the good Reverend was? He says at the end of this video that Chhrist healed people without asking what their faith was or what they believed. Apparently Al isnt much of a disciple of Christ otherwise he might know that EVERYTIME Christ healed someone His first question was, “do ye believe?“ or ”do ye have faith that I can do this thing?” He couldn’t heal someone if they didnt believe in Him. I think the only exception to this was the centurian’s ear.

      Rev. Sharpton, go read your Bible some more before you do your next sermon, it seems your knowledge of Christ is lacking…

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    • Jaggers
      Posted on February 22, 2012 at 3:17pm

      “Chirst” may be a socialist…don’t know who that is…but oh well. However, Christ was certainly not a socialist. His teachings were for the individual and how far the religious leaders of the day strayed far away from them in order to build up power over the people (sound familiar?). Build the individual, have them do go to others, and society will take care of itself.

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    • Jedidavid
      Posted on February 22, 2012 at 3:18pm

      I would also say to everyone else, IGNORE the enemy enicom, if you pay attention to him and reply to him you are only giving him what he wants. He wants you to be upset, he wants you to argue. Who else wants this? “Contention is of the Devil”.

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    • CottonMPG
      Posted on February 22, 2012 at 3:23pm

      Ecinom, your ignorance is showing when you say things like that. I’ve read the Bible through several times and it is definitely not socialist in either the old or the new testament.

      The earliest Christians were commended for VOLUNTARILY sharing all of their money and property with each other. Perhaps that is where you got the idea that Jesus was a socialist. If it is, I hope you can see now how completely off base you were. We are warned not to covet the belongings of others and we are encouraged to give what seems right to help true orphans and widows, to be a hilarious giver, not to give grudgingly. The Bible teaches us that if you WON”T work you shouldn’t eat. It also teaches us that to whom has, more will be given but to whom does not have even what he has will be taken away (parable of the talents). These are just a tiny sample from the Bible. I could list a lot of examples of scripture that promote a capitalistic or at least non-socialist world view. There is no scripture anywhere that would promote socialism/communism. Read through your Bible and you will see this. If you are willing to twist scripture and take it out of context you might be able to deceive yourself or others (though I doubt it), but if you are honestly seeking the truth you will see there is no pro-socialist/communist teaching in the whole book.

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    • fangbanger
      Posted on February 22, 2012 at 3:24pm

      encinom: “Moreover, Jesus said that each believer was to give according to their ability and from their heart” kind of sounds like Marx’s “From each according to his abilities, to each according to his needs.”

      your confusing socialism with charity. jesus didnt advocate for government or the church to be the top down force of redistribution you are implying. jesus taught that those who are able to help should out of love for their fellow man.

      as far as jesus vs rand i dont see a big difference. the biggest way to help others is to not be a burden on others by realizing your potential. by living up to your potential instead of conforming to societal norms you will be better advantaged to help others, if you so choose. isint it funny how many of those “evil” rich 1%ers are some of the biggest charitible donators on the planet?

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    • Going John Galt
      Posted on February 22, 2012 at 3:24pm

      I think you forgot the rest of Galatians to gain the perspective ENCINOM, but I suspect that was on purpose.

      Galatians 1-5 1 Brothers and sisters, if someone is caught in a sin, you who live by the Spirit should restore that person gently. But watch yourselves, or you also may be tempted. 2 Carry each other’s burdens, and in this way you will fulfill the law of Christ. 3 If anyone thinks they are something when they are not, they deceive themselves. 4 Each one should test their own actions. Then they can take pride in themselves alone, without comparing themselves to someone else, 5 for each one should carry their own load.

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    • Kitkarr
      Posted on February 22, 2012 at 3:44pm

      Encinom is right, “God helps those who helps themselves” is not, nor ever has been a Biblical doctrine.

      Gonzo is right, too though. When Paul wrote that “The Lord loves a cheerful giver”, he also said that each man should give “as he has decided in his heart, not reluctantly or under compulsion.” In other words, we shouldn‘t give because we’re forced to or if we’re mad about it. We should give with the right heart.

      With regards to the socialism debate, the Scripture that’s always used for that argument is taken out of context. The teaching is merely that The local Church should help its members with a giving and family-like mentality. It wasn’t socialism, marism, or communism because it wasn’t an all encompassing mandate that was expected to be made into governmental law.

      Of course we should help the needy, but out of love and compassion, not obligation and regulation.

      Christ drew a clear distinction between the government and The Church when He said to “render unto Ceasar that which is Ceasar‘s and unto God that which is God’s.” It may be discerned that He is telling them to keep thier tax paying and thier charitable giving separate.

      The parable of the talents is very informative. All were given a gift to begin with, but is that story really talking about money?

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    • encinom
      Posted on February 22, 2012 at 3:44pm

      @ mdeputy7
      What is the greater blasphemy, I who argue that Christ taught that we should cast off worldly goods and care for our brothers or you and the rest that look at Christ‘s teaching as proof that Ayn Rand’s gospel of greed is correct.

      Many have said but what of the Parable of Talent, is that not the bibles endorsment of capitalism. It is not, parables are stories told by Christ to explain larger messages. The Parable of Talents is Christ’s message to his followers to go out into the world and spread the gosple, that the Church will only grow by investing in your neighbors, not by hiding the message away.

      The true devil is the one that has convinced so many conservative christians that Christ taught greed was a virture and that it is a sin to aid your brother.

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    • Kitkarr
      Posted on February 22, 2012 at 3:49pm

      I left the “x” out of marxism. And probably misspelled other stuff, too. Sorry about it.

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    • fangbanger
      Posted on February 22, 2012 at 4:06pm

      enci which is greedier? enjoying the fruits of your labor or demanding the fruits of others labor? rand’s philosophy isint about greed, its about self-reliance. i know socialists see self-reliance as greedy, but i assume that is because they haven’t figured out how to provide for themselves. that or they are envious of the sucess of others and feel like they are owed simply because they exist.

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    • steelreserve
      Posted on February 22, 2012 at 4:09pm

      Jesus could have been a socialist but he would have had to know it isn’t feasible in our world. If there is a heaven wouldn’t it be a communist-like place? I mean if everything was eternal and everything was given to the chosen people by God, wouldn’t this be what communism is about at its core? Wouldn’t God provide everything to everyone that they would need to live happily forever or would he still require frivolous work for us like selling life insurance to make a living?

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    • @leftfighter
      Posted on February 22, 2012 at 4:13pm

      @encinom

      Dunce answer. Care to back that up with scripture?

      I‘ve asked before and you’ve never answered.

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    • TBIR
      Posted on February 22, 2012 at 4:13pm

      You people on the right kill me if Heaven is your home why do care so much about what happens on the earth maybe you don’t belive in Jesus. Instead you belive in hating fine black men of God like Rev. Jackson Rev. Sharpton, Rev. Wright and the potus

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    • ncrn7
      Posted on February 22, 2012 at 4:19pm

      1Tm:5:8: But if any provide not for his own, and specially for those of his own house, he hath denied the faith, and is worse than an infidel.

      Sounds like socialism huh?

      Eph:2:8: For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God:
      Eph:2:9: Not of works, lest any man should boast.

      Joh:3:3: Jesus answered and said unto him, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born again, he cannot see the kingdom of God.
      Joh:3:7: Marvel not that I said unto thee, Ye must be born again.
      1Pe:1:23: Being born aain, not of corruptible seed, but of incorruptible, by the word of God, which liveth and abideth for ever.

      Ro:10:10: For with the heart man believeth unto righteousness; and with the mouth confession is made unto salvation.
      Ro:10:11: For the scripture saith, Whosoever believeth on him shall not be ashamed.
      Ro:10:13: For whosoever shall call upon the name of the Lord shall be saved.
      Ro:10:17: So then faith cometh by hearing, and hearing by the word of God.

      Ti:3:5: Not by works of righteousness which we have done, but according to his mercy he saved us, by the washing of regeneration, and renewing of the Holy Ghost;

      Works is FROM faith not to it.

      God even gives those the faith to believe to be saved.

      Al Shapton sounds as if he doesn’t proclaim the Gospel as it is written: 2Tm:2:15: Study to shew thyself approved unto God, a workman that needeth not to be ashamed, rightly dividing the word of truth.

      These fol

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    • @leftfighter
      Posted on February 22, 2012 at 4:20pm

      @encinom

      Ah- okay. Now I’ve seen your scripture references.

      Now, let’s shine the light of truth on them…

      The people in Jesus’ inner circle gladly shared their posessions because they wanted to.

      Socialism forces people to share even if they don’t want to.

      Your flawed definition of Socialism-as-sharing and sharing-as-Socialism essentially makes anyone who ever gave a poor man a piece of bread a Socialist.

      You seem to pay absolutely no heed to the individual‘s decision to give versus the State’s decision to take. Let me break it down to you: If something is mine, it’s mine. It’s not yours to take and give to someone else. It’s mine to give, if I so choose. What about this very simple concept don’t you understand?

      Oh, yeah. “Mine.”

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    • encinom
      Posted on February 22, 2012 at 4:21pm

      @fangbanger
      You have never read Rand. Rand is about nothing but greed. “Capitalism and altruism are incompatible…they are philosophical opposites; they cannot co-exist in the same man or in the same society.”

      Rand was about self reliance AT THE EXPENSE of your neighbors. For Rand capitalism was a winner take all competition with no room for mercy or kindness. You can not be a Christian and believe in Ayn Rand’s gospel of Greed. Beck is a false prophet for misleading his sheepish followers down this road to damnation.

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    • matinva
      Posted on February 22, 2012 at 4:29pm

      Why any of you engage ENCINUMBNUTS in dialogue is beyond me. You will get nothing but disconnected, moronic liberal fluff that has no basis in fact or practice.

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    • rangerp
      Posted on February 22, 2012 at 4:31pm

      ENCINOM

      You my friend have done an awsome thing on this post. Claim after claim, scripture after scripture, you have be corrected, and for someone new to the blaze, I think they get a real lesson on conservative values coming from the Bible. You have played the devils advocate very well, he would not be pleased though, as you have done more to prove the others side of the coin than you will ever know.

      Bravo to Encinom

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    • rastamark
      Posted on February 22, 2012 at 4:47pm

      Encinom, prove that. Christ never preached to give all of your money to the government for the government to take care of the population.

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    • watchtheotherhand
      Posted on February 22, 2012 at 4:53pm

      @ ENCINOM “Great defender of Christ’s teachings”……..Since you are so well versed in the meanings of Christ’s parables and the ideals he taught, I was wondering if you would mind commenting on where abortion and homosexuality fit in with regard to the Bible? I know someone so concerned with upholding the socialistic gospel that is obviously all throughout the teachings of Jesus (who in their right mind would even attempt at arguing otherwise?) could show me some of the verses that I might use to show bigoted people that homosexuality is OK and that abortion is a mere choice for a woman. Thanks ahead for your insight…..Oh and help me convince people against homosexual marriage that their understanding of the Bible is leading them astray, thanks.

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    • horar
      Posted on February 22, 2012 at 5:09pm

      You’re probably right about Chirst — but not al all about Christ.

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    • Terry360
      Posted on February 22, 2012 at 5:11pm

      Sharpton may be what HE considers a Christian, but whether he is or isn’t should bear itself (or not) based upon the things he believes and the way he lives his life. That is also what Franklin Graham said about Obama. Maxine Waters probably claims to be a Christian too, but it doesn’t keep her from spouting trash from her mouth. Sharpton has a history of following the story, not the truth, so I don’t really pay attention to him. I just thought this was interesting…………and hilarious!

      Someone posted here that Christ’s belief were liberalist. That’s just crazy. You can’t put His teachings together with liberal idealism and agendas. We are to follow HIM, not something we think He means or says. His word is truth. Let’s just read and live THAT!

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    • Ken
      Posted on February 22, 2012 at 5:16pm

      Agree with uechi!!!

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    • encinom
      Posted on February 22, 2012 at 5:18pm

      rangerp
      Posted on February 22, 2012 at 4:31pm
      ENCINOM

      You my friend have done an awsome thing on this post. Claim after claim, scripture after scripture, you have be corrected, and for someone new to the blaze, I think they get a real lesson on conservative values coming from the Bible. You have played the devils advocate very well, he would not be pleased though, as you have done more to prove the others side of the coin than you will ever know.

      Bravo to Encinom
      _______________________________
      The Shame of it Ranger Dan, was that the only values preached by the Conservative Christians were not those of Christ, it wasn’t the Golden Rule or the Beatitudes, no the Conservative Christians cherry picked the bible to defend deadly sin of avarice. The Conservatives Christians have preached that they are not their Brother’s keepers, nor do they have any moral duty to help advance their brother.

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    • FL_Catholic
      Posted on February 22, 2012 at 5:24pm

      As I wrote in my article http://www.examiner.com/roman-catholic-in-orlando/occupy-orlando-motives-not-supported-by-jesus I think it’s clear to see who the ideal Biblical socialist was:

      “If you want a good, real-world example of a socialist from the Bible, I’ll give you one: Judas Iscariot. He had political influence; he kept the purse for the disciples; he presumed to tell Jesus what he ought to do (e.g., that the myrrh should have been sold to feed the poor, rather than poured on his feet – John 12:1-8); he was stealing from that same collection for the poor; and he eventually betrayed the very God he claimed to serve, when it was no longer convenient for him. That’s a biblical socialist!”

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    • Favored93
      Posted on February 22, 2012 at 5:29pm

      @voiceofreason305
      Posted on February 22, 2012 at 1:41pm

      Christians are delusional. God sent himself to earth to sacrifice himself to save us from himself…
      —————————
      HAHAHAHAHAHA
      Yes we would be if that was the truth….
      God sent his SON to earth to sacrifice himself to save us from HELL, DEATH AND JUDGEMENT!
      By the sin of one man Adam sin and death came to men. God is 100% Holy and just. Sin can not be in the presence of a holy God. Hell was NOT made for men but for the Devil and the angles that chose to follow him. Adam and EVERY man that came after him decided to follow the devil and as a result we go were the Devil goes…hell. Jesus came was born of a virgin, lived a sinless life, died on a Roman cross, was buried and rose again three days later so that we would have a choice between God and the devil.
      We choose to follow to follow Jesus and so we go were He goes…heaven.
      God did NOT send Jesus to save us from God but from the result of our choice to follow the Devil into sin witch leads to death and separation from God in hell. Jesus brings us in reconciliation to God by washing us clean in His shed blood.
      I hope this helps.

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    • Larryjr
      Posted on February 22, 2012 at 5:31pm

      @Encinom – Christianity speaks to individuals about their heart and their actions. When a group of people or a country are “Christians” it will certainly make the place where they abide stand out but to your point that Christ’s views were socialist, they were not and could not be. Why? Glad you asked. Because Christ came to save the world one person at a time unlike socialism.

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    • Wolf
      Posted on February 22, 2012 at 5:38pm

      So the racist Al says, “…Real Christians help heal people and help people,” he continued. “They don’t talk about it. Their works speak for themselves.”…”
      Right, they do, Al. And your actions speak loudly as well. You have the talk but not the walk, so where does that put you?

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    • turkey13
      Posted on February 22, 2012 at 5:39pm

      @ Enama – You are right – Jesus was a socilaist but you and the Rev. al forgot two of his famous statements. Jesus said, ” You will always have your poor,“ and ”Give Caesar what Caesar is owed.” The last I heard the Rev. al owes the IRS 1.2 million$$ in back taxes. Of course it would be racist for the IRS to go after him.

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    • Favored93
      Posted on February 22, 2012 at 5:43pm

      encinom
      Posted on February 22, 2012 at 5:18pm

      rangerp
      Posted on February 22, 2012 at 4:31pm
      ENCINOM

      You my friend have done an awsome thing on this post. Claim after claim, scripture after scripture, you have be corrected, and for someone new to the blaze, I think they get a real lesson on conservative values coming from the Bible. You have played the devils advocate very well, he would not be pleased though, as you have done more to prove the others side of the coin than you will ever know.

      Bravo to Encinom
      _______________________________
      The Shame of it Ranger Dan, was that the only values preached by the Conservative Christians were not those of Christ, it wasn’t the Golden Rule or the Beatitudes, no the Conservative Christians cherry picked the bible to defend deadly sin of avarice. The Conservatives Christians have preached that they are not their Brother’s keepers, nor do they have any moral duty to help advance their brother.
      ———–
      You have ignored the truth on this subject. We are to CHOOSE to help our brothers however I am NOT responsible ie guilty for his actions good or bad. You are an ignorant twister of the truth.
      We will pray for you because you are beyond reasonable help.

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    • svan71
      Posted on February 22, 2012 at 6:10pm

      When you think about resonding to Encinom fellow blazers take it from Al “ Resist We Much ” !

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    • John 3:16
      Posted on February 22, 2012 at 6:13pm

      He Jesus, was not here for, nor did Jesus address earthly government except in one instant that I know of. He spoke most harshly against religious leaders like you a Pharasee and a false religious leader. You smell of smoke Sharpton!!!

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    • chicago76
      Posted on February 22, 2012 at 6:16pm

      Christ’s views were not socialist. He did not believe the government should own everything. Anybody who says that has an agenda of their own and it is not Christian.

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    • gsp9993
      Posted on February 22, 2012 at 6:28pm

      Yes they are Marxists and Al Sharpton is the Devil.

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    • Ruler4You
      Posted on February 22, 2012 at 6:34pm

      For a guy who can’t read, he did a fine job/

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    • Miami
      Posted on February 22, 2012 at 7:11pm

      mr molotov cocktail

      Put down the pipe it’s eating your mind

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    • fangbanger
      Posted on February 22, 2012 at 7:18pm

      You have never read Rand. Rand is about nothing but greed. “Capitalism and altruism are incompatible…they are philosophical opposites; they cannot co-exist in the same man or in the same society.”

      Rand was about self reliance AT THE EXPENSE of your neighbors. For Rand capitalism was a winner take all competition with no room for mercy or kindness. You can not be a Christian and believe in Ayn Rand’s gospel of Greed. Beck is a false prophet for misleading his sheepish followers down this road to damnation.

      it sounds to me that either you have never read rand or it was above your level. rand was not about self reliance at the cost of your neighbors. it was against sacrificing your standards for those of society. it wasent only about money either. altruism does not exist. when you help someone else you are doing so because you choose to do so, not because you are forced. you help not for reward, at least not from the person you are helping. you are helping because helping makes you feel good. forcing help leads to resentment. how do you feel when you boss hands you over a bunch of extra work because your coworker is behind? if they are behind by illness or some event they could not control ill bet youre generally sympathetic. if theyre behind because they were goofing off and not doing their work ill bet you feel differently.
      as far as the winner take all no kindness crap- why should meiocraty be celebrated at the expence of those that innovate?

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    • The-Monk
      Posted on February 22, 2012 at 7:21pm

      @ all the newbies and those that don’t know

      encinom is a hungry TROLL, please don’t feed it anything. If you do, it just grows more.

      Thanks

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    • makamae
      Posted on February 22, 2012 at 7:26pm

      Encicom – You’ve quoted a few verses, but I can’t see anywhere that you quote something that attributes socialist idea to Jesus Christ. Your reference to the early church in Acts is completely off-base. Jesus told the disciples to “GO” – instead they stuck around & formed an encounter group. God had to move the Romans to sack Jerusalem in order to get the gospel to be spread around the world.

      The book of Acts is a historical accounting of the movements of some elements of the early church, rather than a recitation of Jesus’ teaching.

      If you want to make a political point about Christianity, feel free, but you should research before you speak.

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    • fangbanger
      Posted on February 22, 2012 at 7:27pm

      capitalism is natures economic model. every black market is ran as a capitalistic venture. if you know anything about economics then you know that black markets will always occur when a government tries to overregulate products and services that people want. they will find a way. 2 big current black markets are drugs and sex. have you ever heard of a communist drug dealer? ive read about crack gangs that throw community get togethers and try to have a positive public image so the residents will turn a blind eye to their crack dealing (freakonomics; dubner, lebner). are the crack dealers being altruistic in their community or are they doing it for their own benefit?

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    • INOGAWD
      Posted on February 22, 2012 at 7:37pm

      Sa, Wha Al ?? This man makes my eyes water when he
      speaks, couldn’t watch the whole video.. WOW !!!!!!!
      and I understand he has an hour long show.. You would
      have to very strong, or empty headed like a Libotard to
      watch an hour of this……GOOD GAWD !!!

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    • Paul -Indiana
      Posted on February 22, 2012 at 7:50pm

      It isn‘t ’charity’ if the actions of giving up your possessions are forced upon you. It’s communism.

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    • Patriot Z
      Posted on February 22, 2012 at 7:52pm

      encom- no he wasnt. christ helped people himself, not try to force others to do something he didnt. christ also believed in hard work and teaching man to support himself and help when needed, not pay for people to sit on their butts while others toiled. socialists only help themselves to others work and money then claim they earned it when they didnt. you may want to look again, cause im athiest and i know christ was no socialist. a socialist is as far removed from nature, god, love and justice as you can get. nice try tho

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    • oldironsides
      Posted on February 22, 2012 at 7:53pm

      ” My kingdom is not of this world. If it was, my servants would have fought to keep me from the hands of the government” – Jesus

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    • jwt
      Posted on February 22, 2012 at 7:56pm

      pres Obama has stated nunerous times “we are our brother’s keeper” His foundation is corrupt
      ‘

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    • encinom
      Posted on February 22, 2012 at 7:57pm

      @fangbanger
      It looks like Rand is above your reading level.

      “If any civilization is to survive, it is the morality of altruism that men have to reject.” Ayn Rand

      Altruism by its definition means a concern for the welfare of others. Rand is opposed to this very Christ like notion, seeking only greed.

      “Money is the barometer of a society’s virtue.” Ayn Rand
      Greed, a deadly sin in Rand’s view is the measure of virture. Christ taught that “It is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle than for a rich man to enter into the kingdom of God.”

      “Ask yourself whether the dream of heaven and greatness should be waiting for us in our graves – or whether it should be ours here and now and on this earth.” Ayn Rand
      Did not Christ warn man about living for the world.

      You can not be a Christian and espouse the teachings of Ayn Rand.

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    • Benjamin Abruzzo
      Posted on February 22, 2012 at 8:27pm

      @Encinom

      I think you have a situational form of dyslexia, fo you equates a phrase with another that is worded in the opposite. Let’s follow along:

      Iswingright said: “Jesus said that each believer was to give according to their ability and from their heart”

      Encinom said: “From each according to his abilities, to each according to his needs.”

      Now, as anybody with an ounce of knowledge would tell you, “To each according to their abilities” is the opposite of “Fome each according to their abilities”. Again “To” is the opposite of “From”.

      Based on this error alone (one I think you intentionally made) you can only be thought of as decptive and not honest.

      But I have to hand it to you. you certainally have achieved a level of Troll that makes you above others. You certainally can be called a Master Bater.

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    • MS Patriot
      Posted on February 22, 2012 at 8:35pm

      Christ’s views were socialist, but they came with freedom of choice not with a federal government mandate on how much was enough.

      The Marxist want people to depend on the Government like Christians depend on Jesus. There;s a huge difference. Jesus is the son of God and our government is run by greedy, lying cheats who are only out to rule over us like animals.

      If more Americans would turn toward God for help instead of the ponzi scheme pranksters of the federal government they would be much better off in the long run.

      As Christians we know the final battle comes down to the atheist run government and the true believers of the world.

      We fear no man or government. Let’s play this out, we already know who wins.

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    • makamae
      Posted on February 22, 2012 at 9:53pm

      Encicom – “No collective salvation, we should not bear the burdens of our brothers?”

      Galatians 6 has absolutely nothing to do with salvation – collective or individual. In reality, there’s no such thing as collective salvation. There’s only individual salvation that is “achieved” by grace, through faith, in Jesus Christ. Collective guilt & attempts to make up for whatever the collective fools think only serves to alleviate the guilty feelings of a few… nothing more.

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    • Komponist-ZAH
      Posted on February 22, 2012 at 10:07pm

      Encinom, you do know that Rand actually praised Christ as a pioneer of individualism, don’t you?

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    • Uranium Wedge
      Posted on February 22, 2012 at 10:15pm

      What does “beliefe” mean Al?
      And if you “ax” someone, of course you’re not healing them.

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    • 4truth2all
      Posted on February 22, 2012 at 10:30pm

      Yo Encinom;

      You take chocolate icing and apply it to cow manure…

      Do you also know the Proverbs that speak to a person who is corrected but refuses to acknowledge their mistake …. you have been corrected so many times I don’t have the fingers and toes to count that high.

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    • MS-GlenNBC
      Posted on February 22, 2012 at 10:37pm

      What is harder to listen to?

      Al Sharpton or Romney

      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RHaMqHh5NZ4

      Romney likes
      Cars Trees and lakes

      Sharpton Likes
      Boo Bury Pi i.e. Blue Berry Pie

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    • TXPilot
      Posted on February 22, 2012 at 11:04pm

      I’m sure what Al says makes perfect sense, to the people out there, suffering from drug addictions, head injuries or dementia…….I checked to see if my computer could translate moron into English….but no such luck.

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    • ChiefGeorge
      Posted on February 22, 2012 at 11:13pm

      I think FG walked himself unwisely into trap set for him by MSNBC, but he should already have been savy enough to understand this and not put himself in that position in the first place via his ill chosen words regarding the matter. If he cannot speak to Obamas faith he should have kept it right there…he cannot speak to Santorums or Newts either. This showed some lack of political savy on his part even though he is there as a minister of the gospel, Jesus knew the traps set for him and he always had an answer, FG however is just a man, but he lives in this world and its his wisdom of the issues and how to handle them that should shine in these instances.

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    • BOUGHT YOUR SILO YET?
      Posted on February 22, 2012 at 11:25pm

      @Enci-

      As far as the early church goes and whether or not they applied socialistic tenants within their growing community of followers, you have to read the entire story. They were neither a city nor a state; they were an enclave of believers.

      Actually, I am glad you made this comment because in answering you, it is now revealed to myself that if they were not following socialism- then why were the husband and wife, who held back possessions, smited. When the leaders learned that this couple had sold property and withheld the amount that the property was sold for from the commune, the ground literally opened up and took them. I realize, now, (and have often wondered about- until now) why. I believe it was to keep the integrity of the early church pure. To live in such a society every single member would have to be completely trustworthy- or it wouldn’t work!

      It amazes me that ANYONE- anyone, would have that amount of trust in people they do not know, especially the people of today, that they think Socialism would be a good thing. Everyone would have to put in the same amount of effort- giving to the community, before it could work and that is impossible! I do not trust that every single human on this planet would work as hard as I do or harder.

      Finally- recall that Jesus told his disciples, after they admonished the woman who used expensive perfume to wash his feet, that they would always have the poor, but not him. He preached of charity, not socialism.

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    • TRUTHSENSE
      Posted on February 22, 2012 at 11:37pm

      ENCINOM, Socialism uses government to force people to give to whatever causes it dictates. Jesus commanded his followers to give generously. I haven’t found one verse of scripture (and I’ve read it all through several times) where Jesus told Caesar what he should tax people and what causes to fund. Jesus taught people to give from the heart and never taught forced giving as socialism does. Most socialist don’t want to give out of their abundance to social causes, they want to make everyone else give.

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    • singingcowboy674
      Posted on February 23, 2012 at 1:03am

      Only socialists see Christ’s teachings as socialist. There is a glaring difference that socialists forget or fail to make the distinction between. Socialism says “everybody will have the same thing because WE will control the dissemination of all things (via the gov’t). Christ says “Give out of your love for one another.” There is nothing that love has to do with socialism. Socialism takes by force from those who have and give to those who have not. If the gov‘t followed Christ’s teachings, it would say, “Brothers and sisters, whom God has blessed with material favor, we beseech you, to pray and give. Not as we dictate or command, but as your heart, led by God dictates and commands.” And leave it up to the people to follow those dictates. It would in no wise say “If you refuse to give from the dictates of your heart, then WE WILL, come and take it from you and then we will give it to those who are in need, since you won’t do it yourself.” Do you understand the difference Encinom?

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    • chalkdust
      Posted on February 23, 2012 at 1:45am

      I don’t care what bible verse you quote, I will not give up on or be talked into some idiotic ideology by people who are to stupid to see or don’t care about freedom. Communism or marxism, whatever you call it, is the antithesis of freedom. Anyone who would debate you on this is either stupid or suicidal. It was ounce shocking to hear people tout the wonderful utopian communism and now I’m not fazed by it at all. They live in a fools paradise and I for one will not be moving in with them.

      I know its tempting but…. STOP FEEDING THE TROLLS. You are not actually debating. They will say anything just to get under your skin. Hence the modern definition of a troll. They are trolling you.

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    • ILUVJESUS
      Posted on February 23, 2012 at 2:13am

      UECHI you are 100% right on target. Another name for it is social justice. Americans need to know about this. Somebody wake them up.

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    • SEPARATENOW
      Posted on February 23, 2012 at 6:30am

      I’m shocked to find any form of ignorance coming from the mouth of Reverend Al Sharpton. (If anyone doesn‘t believe he’d sell his mother for 5 more minutes on TV, you’ve got mental problems. What a lying, stealing, racist, hustling loser. Who cares what Al Sharpton says? In any normal world he be saying these things to a lone prison guard.)

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    • AnaChris
      Posted on February 23, 2012 at 7:02am

      @ ENCINOM
      Christ’s views were NOT socialistic. As a matter of fact they were and are apolitical. He did not come to show us how to run our governments (render to Cesar what is Cesar’s, render to God what is God’s). He came to heal and forgive and become the atoning sacrifice for a dying world of sinners. The very thought of injection Jesus’ ministry into political ideology is repulsive at best and sinful to be sure.

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    • Steve0218
      Posted on February 23, 2012 at 8:34am

      Encinom; Key words Jesus said “to give” I don‘t get the opportunity to give as much as I otherwise would if the government wouldn’t ‘TAKE’ so much from me. When they take I am not giving, they are stealing!

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    • SEPARATENOW
      Posted on February 23, 2012 at 8:43am

      @ENCINOM
      I pity you. You are not only misrepresenting the words and intent of Jesus you are grossly misrepresenting the words of Ayn Rand. Jesus and Rand would surely not be on the same page on many issues, especially so since Rand was an atheist.

      It is clear both professed one truthful axiom: Being honest about your agenda, responsible for yourself and leading by example are what matter most. Collective power was rejected by both as corrupt, in Jesus‘ case represented by the Pharisaical laws he came to undo and in Rand’s case by the collusion of power invested in government (different sides of the same coin). Both also embraced the notion that behavior with free will not commanded behavior was the way to measure anyone’s virtue.

      You choose to equate capitalism and self interest with evil. They do not match. Bad people in any system, especially when power is centralized, usurp the free will of the people and bad things follow. A society with individual liberty of choice negates that usurpation of power. We could go down a list of the atrocities committed by people with centralized power, but names like Stalin, Mao, Hitler, Khan, Robespierre, et.al. probably don‘t impress you and you are too naive to believe it can’t happen again. You are mistaken. It can.

      Provoke and lie all you wish. The above is indisputably true.

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    • jbearup
      Posted on February 23, 2012 at 9:10am

      Really? “Christ’s views are socialist”. That’s interesting 1Tim 5:8 says “But if any provide not for his own, and specially for those of his own house, he hath denied the faith and is worse than an infidel.” So the bible says you ought to get off your lazy butt and provide for your family. Hardly a socialist point of view- Oh and in case you want to say that Christ didn’t actually say this: Read John 1 Christ is the Word of God!! The whole thing!!

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    • WatchingObama
      Posted on February 23, 2012 at 10:52am

      @ENCINOM
      What the first Christians did once Christ Jesus ascended to heaven was to initially birth the churches. It would be the same as if someone planted a church today. Normally, there are what are called “launch teams” where individuals with specific gifts, skills or financial support poured in to the birthing of a new church to meet the needs of others who were converting and thats why you read in Acts where they sold their possesions; to be able to bless someone and to have God the Father receive His glory.
      All of the “isms” are government based. Meaning, each one is of the mindset that the people can’t live life on their own they need a form of government to make it fair and in order. That all sounds good on the surface, however, below the surface any government that trys to control people socially WILL turn in to tyranny eventually. Look at Mao, Hitler, Stalin, Castro. Suppression of individual rights is core to socialism, communism and facism.
      Jesus never would approve of any of these for His Kingdom is about freedom and not of bondage.

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    • LogicalMetaphysician
      Posted on February 23, 2012 at 12:35pm

      Encinom, do you ever get tired of lying?
      Probably not, since you do it so effortlessly.

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    • bdkern
      Posted on February 23, 2012 at 1:58pm

      encinom – You can say anything you want, but the way the word “socialist” is defined in our society, does not match the Bible at all. Maybe you could use the word “communal” for how people sold what they had and shared with those in need, but there is NO biblical support for your assertion. If there is; please start quoting scripture so the rest of us who have been reading the Bible our whole lives can be corrected. Oh, but please use the verses you choose in context. It’s easy to pick and choose a verse by itself to try to support your case.

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    • girlnurse
      Posted on February 23, 2012 at 1:58pm

      Sorry ENCINOM: Christs views were NOT Socialist! Jesus despised the religious leaders and rulers of His day because they really didn’t love people but gave long prayers and speeches in public trying to put on a show (kinda like O and his ilk followers do). I mean Obummber is always trying to put down the millionares and rich people but guess what? He is one of them! Jesus didn’t have any money or even a home to sleep….he was a true homeless guy…NOT like Obama and his ilk. Jesus wasn’t concerned with money or government policies he was concerned with mens souls…..He told the story of the good Samaritan because that is the way PEOPLE should help other PEOPLE…NOT have the government take it from us thru taxation and regulation. That sounds like one group stealing from another to “spread the wealth around”. Only problem is the government loves murder thru abortion and other evil things Christians don’t agree with. Your man Obumma thinks babies should be kiiled and even if they live you should let them lay there and die on the table if the abortion is botched.
      Yes Jesus wanted people to love and help people but He never said it needs to go thru the government middle man first! AND he meant help people who need food and/or care NOT help them fornicate and kill babies right and left, because that doesn’t “help” the baby much does it?
      Quite the contrary…Good try tho!

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    • Hollywood
      Posted on February 23, 2012 at 2:18pm

      In Black Liberation Theology, Jesus says : Come unto me,all you who labor,and are heavy laden,I will give you rest— AND welfare,and foodstamps,and __ __ ___?

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    • cosette
      Posted on February 23, 2012 at 3:32pm

      @ Encinom/ Monice- I believe you and your alter ego, whoever is whichever, are BOTH on drugs.

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    • rangerp
      Posted on February 23, 2012 at 3:33pm

      Once again, huge thanks to ENCINOM. His claims and statements allowed others to open the Bible and apply scripture correctly.

      This is one of those articles you want a fence sitter to open up and read the blogs. they would get a real education on why Jesus was not a socialist.

      Thanks again ENCINOM, you really helped prove a point.

      By the way, if you really want to see charity, come visit Grace Baptist Church in Columbus, Georgia. See the 200 missionaries we support around the world with more money that I think you would believe a small church would give. This money feeds the poor, gives medicine to those that need it, nad spread the gospel.

      See the number of addicst that are given help, counseling, food, clothes, and a new life without addicitons. See the poor kids bussed in from the worst neighborhoods in town. See the old that are cared for. This is charity that comes from middle class people. They not only give money, they give time, work, and give of themselves. This is much differnet than being generous with money you took from another person.

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    • cosette
      Posted on February 23, 2012 at 3:44pm

      @ Encinom— And Jesus went out into the towns and villages and ordered the inhabitants to give over their goods and coins and he took all their wealth and redistributed it to those who had little.. And Jesus said this is good. For I took from those who labored to feed their families and provide shelter for them. And I took all they had and gave it over to those who were angry and slothful and who covet their neighbors possessions. And Jesus said it is good… The gospel according to the Marxist in the white house and his legion of lemmings……..

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    • fangbanger
      Posted on February 23, 2012 at 4:25pm

      encinom-
      thanks for proving my point of rand being above your level. ill respond in order
      1. “ ”“If any civilization is to survive, it is the morality of altruism that men have to reject.” Ayn Rand

      Altruism by its definition means a concern for the welfare of others. Rand is opposed to this very Christ like notion, seeking only greed. ”

      this means if society is to survive then we must first take care of ourselves. it does no good to be “altruistic” if you cant take care of yourself. when you cant take care of your own needs then you are creating a bigger burden on society when you altruistically give to someone else. not to mention true altruism does not exist

      2 “ ”“Money is the barometer of a society’s virtue.” Ayn Rand
      Greed, a deadly sin in Rand’s view is the measure of virture. Christ taught that “It is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle than for a rich man to enter into the kingdom of God.” ”

      money is neither good nor evil. it is a tool that we use for barter as they symbol of our work. if society gives money to those that do not earn it then you are devaluing the work of others. what someone does with their money can make them good or evil.

      3. ““Ask yourself whether the dream of heaven and greatness should be waiting for us in our graves – or whether it should be ours here and now and on this earth.” Ayn Rand
      Did not Christ warn man about living for the world. ”

      why would you strive for unhappine

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    • skodymoore
      Posted on February 23, 2012 at 8:09pm

      Christ was not a socialist… That is ridicules… ha ha. Jesus did not want government to be the answer to all of our problems, he wanted people individually to have a personal relationship with Him that would create in them character and love for others. Individuals and a personal relationship, not collective and a distant dictatorship style of socialism/communism.

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    • carbonyes
      Posted on February 24, 2012 at 12:32am

      Al Sharpton, I knew Martin Luther King, and you ain’t no Martin Luther King!

      ENCINOM, as usual, you have holes in your head. Jesus was not a socialist. Jesus was and is the Son of God. God was not and never will be a socialist. Wasn’t a Democrat or Republican either. Certainly wasn’t a liberal. You could say he pretty much was conservative though. His laws, statutes, tenets and principals are etched in his Word, which was written in the Bible from Genesis through Revelations and embodied in Jesus Christ. God who always was, is and ever will be, never changes. that is about as conservative as you can get. Think on that one for a while.

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    • LarryR
      Posted on February 24, 2012 at 2:43pm

      Setting in church on Sunday makes one no more a Christian than standing in a garage makes one a car. Old Testament is Sociology, collective conscience, God judges the gang. New Testament is psychology, individual conscience, God judges individuals. Christ was not into class warfare, like Obama and liberals, dividing people into gangs, colors, gender, or age. Christ encouraged self determination and self accountability. Love is one of least used word in NT. It was about, I, Me, YOU, Him, Her, that autosoterism where we are all self-propelled, to go in any direction directed by personal conscience. In truth, those who preach racism, are the real racists, for they focus on the gang conscience!

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    • Databyter
      Posted on February 24, 2012 at 7:28pm

      Christs views were not socialist. Not even close.
      He did not expect governments to do anything but be corrupt and oppressive.

      If you mean he believed in People helping People,that is not a socialist belief.
      That is a conservative belief.

      Socialists believe in government authority helping people, and taxing others to grow government even more powerful so that it can inefficiently do so. Socialists believe in taking that right and responsibility from the populace.

      Christians believe in people doing the right things without the interference or need for approval of government.

      It is a lame liberal talking point that Jesus was a socialist, and one so unable to hold up to any intellectual scrutiny. But then again, liberals do not scrutinize much, just chanting the talking points together as they nod at each other in slack jawwed agreement is all the endorsement they need.

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    • JimSherrill
      Posted on February 26, 2012 at 4:54pm

      If Oboma and Sharpton are Christian then the whole world is Christian they don’t know what the word means let alone being a Christian.

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    • wargames83
      Posted on March 11, 2012 at 5:45pm

      Iswingright
      Wait, Marx and a quote about according to your ability too. I guess Jesus was a Marxist!

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    • wargames83
      Posted on March 11, 2012 at 5:51pm

      rush_is_right, where does the Bible say that it failed? Comparing it with the description of the followers of Molech is laughable and an obvious deception on your part. Those who held all things in common were those that believed. In the preceding verse they were filled with the Holy Ghost and spake the word of God with boldness. Face the facts about the book that you claim is scripture and stop twisting to suit your on purposes.

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    • wargames83
      Posted on March 11, 2012 at 6:01pm

      The_Jerk,
      Anarcho Socialist believe socialism should be voluntary. May Luke (the writer of Acts) was an anarcho socialist!

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  • cuinsong
    Posted on February 22, 2012 at 10:26am

    People like All S. are tools used by the forces that seek to destroy America and he sings the devils song!
    “The Devils Song” http://www.reverbnation.com/play_now/song_10789987

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    • turkey13
      Posted on February 22, 2012 at 10:39am

      Anyone that goes around saying – We, Us, Them, isn’t even an American, let alone a Christian.

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    • db321
      Posted on February 22, 2012 at 1:29pm

      Here’s Reagan description of Communism verses God and the Bible.

      A must see video – Reagan tried to warned us.

      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=do0x-Egc6oA

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    • rose-ellen
      Posted on February 22, 2012 at 5:03pm

      No.America will come up to par with the europeans and become a socialist /capitalist state. there is no way that a nation of 350 million people in a technologically advanced global economy can thrive by remaining puritanicalyy hypercapitalist. you have been brainwashed against europe because of your arrogant self serving narrative that you are exceptional and better then all other people on earth. hence you can‘t have a systen that is like europe’s. the reality is your exceptionally pertains to the fact that you’re more puritanical and greedy then most -your pull yourself up by your own bootstraps-if you’re rich you must be good puritianism is lacking in compassion for your own citizens and no wonder the puritans were thrown out of europe.Your constituion can be interpreted to mean anything and everything and where it can’t it can be amended-an emperor with no clothes.in yrs. to come america will adapt european sensibilities and have a more socialist style system modeled after theirs. that is what you are fighting-the notion that your exceptional narrative about yourself is flawed and you’d do better to be like the enlightned europeans.

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    • Favored93
      Posted on February 22, 2012 at 5:53pm

      @rose-ellen
      Once again your ignorance is showing Rose.
      Honestly I think we are tired of your drivel. If the EU is soooo enlightened please do our voting public a favor and move there.
      It is scary to think people like you have a vote here.

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    • proudinfidel54
      Posted on February 23, 2012 at 12:17pm

      If only they had the pill when Rev. Al was born….Oh yeah folks we need to just ignore insane-acom….maybe it will go away…

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  • charles1540
    Posted on February 22, 2012 at 10:26am

    Al Shapton’s only faith is to take his lying and pandering to every opportunity that enables this publicity whore to further his own interest he could care less of what anyone else cares. What a disgusting person he is.

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    • smithclar3nc3
      Posted on February 22, 2012 at 3:19pm

      Exactly whatb the h377 is up with that Rev. Title they slip in when atlking about him. After hearing enough sharpton like ilk coming from black community orginizers I’ve reach the conclusion that Rev. is a militant term or it given out when you spent 20.00 or more at a black business. Rev sharpton,jackson wright nothing about their characters are reverend. They are race pimps liberal feeding off the poor they claim to want to help nothing more nothing less

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  • BelindaB
    Posted on February 22, 2012 at 10:23am

    https://bay160.mail.live.com/default.aspx?id=64855&rru=inbox#n=1127792644&rru=inbox&fid=1&fav=1&mid=bc73584e-5d57-11e1-919b-00215ad8020a&fv=1

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  • sawbuck
    Posted on February 22, 2012 at 10:21am

    Hey Al ..You might want to check yourself…

    2 Timothy 4: 1-5

    1 I charge thee therefore before God, and the Lord Jesus Christ, who shall judge the quick and the dead at his appearing and his kingdom; 2 Preach the word; be instant in season, out of season; reprove, rebuke, exhort with all longsuffering and doctrine.

    3 For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine; but after their own lusts shall they heap to themselves teachers, having itching ears; 4 And they shall turn away their ears from the truth, and shall be turned unto fables

    . 5 But watch thou in all things, endure afflictions, do the work of an evangelist, make full proof of thy ministry

    Matthew 7:21-23
    21 Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven
    .
    22 Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works?

    23 And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity.

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  • Tigress1
    Posted on February 22, 2012 at 10:20am

    We need a President who rejects evil. Whether that person is a Christian, a Jew, a Hindu, a Buddhist, a Mormon, etc. is fine as long as it is a religion that embraces good. We are not electing a Pope-In-Chief, or a Preacher-In-Chief etc; we are electing someone who will follow the Constitution, restore this country, fix our economy, get the government out of our lives, rebuild our status as a superpower, and regain the world’s respect!

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    • cuinsong
      Posted on February 22, 2012 at 10:30am

      Right on TIGERESS

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    • Chromo200
      Posted on February 22, 2012 at 11:05am

      Amen ..

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    • zhaan
      Posted on February 22, 2012 at 11:20am

      100% agree!

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    • In the O.C.
      Posted on February 22, 2012 at 11:40am

      Right on.

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    • edmundburk
      Posted on February 22, 2012 at 10:37pm

      A mans view of his place in the world (IE religon, or of lack thereof) informs his world view and therefore
      his actions. After 8 years of Clinton and 4 years of BHO your still willing to elect anybody?

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  • mountainmover101
    Posted on February 22, 2012 at 10:16am

    Franklin Graham feeds, clothes, educates millions all over the world through his organization which is privately funded through the gifts of Christians. Al Sharpton does a meager few things for a very select few people for political gain using taxpayer dollars for the most part. There is nothing else to be said.

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  • The_Jerk
    Posted on February 22, 2012 at 10:13am

    Al proves that anyone, and anything, can be called a ‘reverend.’

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    • rickfromthecape
      Posted on February 22, 2012 at 10:25am

      So true,,,, my friend had his DOG get ordained just to prove it!

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    • doomytram
      Posted on February 22, 2012 at 10:53am

      Al Franken called, and he wants the reverend Al to pay his taxes. Al on MSNBC worships his Racism and Communism and Al Franken worships his leftism and communism. The Disaster of Disasters Obama worships his dictatorship and his communism.

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    • closetotheedge
      Posted on February 22, 2012 at 11:20am

      Yes Indeed, Al can join with Jerimiah Wright as how not to follow our Lord Jesus Christ. Jesus came for all the World ,not just a few. And he did’nt have to ask“ What religion are you” The woman at the well was’nt a Jew or christian,but He offered her a different water that would change her life and others‘ that she brought out to ’See this man who told me of my past’. So many falseprophets are teaching a doctrine that if a person beleives hard enough,or says certain words they will go to heaven. Jesus never said he was’nt the Son of God,but that He and the Father are one and that He came so that all would know who He was. The one question we all must answer, and the time is short is “Who was this man Jesus?” Only 3 choices we have. Either He was a liar, a lunitic, or He was Lord? People say all kinds of things again’st Him,but His offer still stands.His life was given freely so the debt could be paid in full.Choose, not from ignorance but read the Word for yourselves and then make your minds up.Try Matt 24 or to read the times we are in and read the book of Joel.It’s near the end of the Old Testament.”My people perish for lack of wisdom.” So choose wisely. As for Al and others may know the words’ but their hearts are far from Jesus. Al shows his true colors when he speaks of something his mind and heart are again’st.And he has a show on msnbc? Sorta says it all. Read it and ask. Is he really who He said he was?

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    • CONSERVATIVE1
      Posted on February 22, 2012 at 11:56am

      My dog is named “Reverend drake”…a 105 lb. black lab. He was ordained in the summer of 2008 as a “Reverend”.

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  • UBETHECHANGE
    Posted on February 22, 2012 at 10:13am

    These libs are not Christians, they follow Marxism and liberation theology aka Marxism! They are Marxists! Period.

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    • MS Patriot
      Posted on February 22, 2012 at 8:52pm

      To prove that Christianity is not similar to Marxism, God allows us to use our own free will to choose to be Christian or not. The Federal Government is not giving “We the People” that option, at every turn there is a federal mandate that tells us what we will do in order to receive the governments fine blessings.

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  • MidWestMom
    Posted on February 22, 2012 at 10:12am

    “This morning, Franklin Graham went on national television to question President Obama’s Christian faith..” Really? Guess I must have missed the part where Graham said “I am here to question Obama’s faith”. Or the part where the host introduced the segment “Next up – Rev Graham will question the President’s Christian faith”.
    Looked to me like he was only answering the questions he was asked.

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    • Gonzo
      Posted on February 22, 2012 at 10:58am

      Exactly Mom. Did they expect him to lie on air just so nobody would get their feelings hurt? Don‘t ask the question if you don’t want the answer.

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  • BelindaB
    Posted on February 22, 2012 at 10:11am

    God Bless America, Land that WE love…Stand beside Her, AND Guide her, through the Night With The LIGHT FROM ABOVE!!! From the Mountains, to the Praires, to the oceans ,white with foam….GOD BLESS AMERICA, OUR HOME, SWEET HOME!

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  • CA_Refugee
    Posted on February 22, 2012 at 10:11am

    “Reverend” Al…needs to read his Bible, there is one undeniable Truth as to what a Christian is and he missed the mark. Isn’t interesting how Franklin Graham talked about Christ so openly, so eager to say what Christ had done for him. Yet “Reverend” Sharpton is so ambigous, non-specific, where is the “Reverend” in this man? Or is it just good practice for him so he can be associated with a real Reverend like Dr. MLK? What “Reverend” Sharpton speaks of are things that Christians need TO DO, but they are meaningless, in the definition of what a Christian is, without salvation and faith in Jesus Christ. He is right on one that…Christians do not do a good job of living the tenants that He preached, we alienate more than we bring together and “Reverend” Sharpton in true hypocritical fashion contributes to this problem as a chief race-baiter, fully wanting to keep the divide wide and deep.

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    • grannyjojo
      Posted on February 22, 2012 at 10:50am

      You are so correct in your statements of Rev Al. Can you just see him on judgement day telling the Lord “I tried”, “I preached”, I whatever. The Lord will spew him out…..I sure wouldn’t want to be Rev Al if he met the Lord today. Those who preach not what the Bible says but THEIR interpretation and what they want to say to garner themselves money, fame, women, etc., will, I believe, receive more punishment because they caused others to be drawn astray. I will pray for Rev Al, he needs the Lord and he needs to know the damage he has caused by his mouth and twisting of the Bible and the true hurt he has caused others due to this. God bless all. “Every knee will bow and every tongue confess”

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  • bigbro
    Posted on February 22, 2012 at 10:10am

    Shoptun is the biggest fraud there is. He is not even close to being a preacher.

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  • Anonymous T. Irrelevant
    Posted on February 22, 2012 at 10:07am

    Hey Al, why don’t you actually have Franklin on your show and ASK HIM what a REAL Christian is? What’s that? You’re afraid he would make you look bad and make you cry? He will say you are not a REAL reverend? By gosh, I think you are right.

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    • MidWestMom
      Posted on February 22, 2012 at 10:18am

      Sharpton isn’t brave enough. He knows he would look like the fool he is.

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  • BelindaB
    Posted on February 22, 2012 at 10:06am

    The American People are IN CONTROL in November 2012….We WILL have GOD on our side!!! God HAS, and will continue to BLESS AMERICA! And NO FRAUD can OVER RIDE THAT!

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  • JP4JOY
    Posted on February 22, 2012 at 10:05am

    Stinky Al thinks that if Jesus healed the poor and made them rich it means that He gave them stuff. I have doubt as to whether Sharpton believes salvation is a spiritual condition. His salvation appears to be the money he has made from his preaching.

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  • SREGN
    Posted on February 22, 2012 at 10:04am

    I don’t find it difficult at all to understand how someone who has made a career out of being a shakedown artist and racial divider could be ignorant of the commands of God.

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  • Coach54
    Posted on February 22, 2012 at 10:02am

    ‘Preach the Gospel, and if necessary, use words”. – Attibuted to Francis of Assisi

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  • BelindaB
    Posted on February 22, 2012 at 10:01am

    al sharpton and jesse james….I mean Jackson, are as big of Frauds as obama is. And, WE, as AMERICANS, WILL HANDLE the frauds in November, 2012!!!! We NEED and WANT you, Allen West!!!!

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  • Texas.7
    Posted on February 22, 2012 at 10:00am

    Jesus spelled out a very narrow path, through Him alone, The Way, the Truth, and the Light. We are warned to test the Spirit. Faith in Christ is just that… kinda self defining, not just “real Christians try to help people”. While they do, there is something much more basic that defines Christianity. You have to include Christ in your definition.

    I don’t think the unborn children are getting good health care when we abort them.

    Blacks particularly should be angry about the pro-abortion lobby which disproportionately hurts blacks:
    http://www.humanevents.com/article.php?id=16919

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    • Texas.7
      Posted on February 22, 2012 at 12:32pm

      Life :)

      I always say “Light” by accident, but He is the Light also, though His Life surpasses all.

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  • copatriots
    Posted on February 22, 2012 at 10:00am

    No, AL, Rev Graham had it exactly correct! Of course, you wouldn’t actually know a real Christian so you are understandably confused. Rev Graham was absolutely right. When a Christian is asked about their conversion experience, Rev Graham told us what a “real” Christian would say……and he said it twice. Obama only said how he started going to church. A Christian will speak of their need for salvation due to the recognition of their sin and they are saved by the grace of God alone through His Son, Jesus Christ. Please MSM ask Obama the question exactly that way and see how he answers. Not once has Obama ever said “Jesus is the Christ the Son of th Living God who saved a wretch like me. There is no other path to salvation.” When he sincerely utters those words, minus a teleprompter, and reinforces that with his actions and policies (fruit), then maybe Christians will think Obama is a follower of Christ Jesus.

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    • CMDR6
      Posted on February 22, 2012 at 11:28am

      Amen and Amen…..I heard the hammer it the nail!

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    • Windwalker
      Posted on February 22, 2012 at 12:42pm

      @Copatriots

      Simply and factually stated. Romans 10: 9 & 10

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  • AJAYW
    Posted on February 22, 2012 at 10:00am

    Al boy ( thats with a little b ) is nothing but a racist liar

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  • BelindaB
    Posted on February 22, 2012 at 9:59am

    al sharpton would NOT KNOW a Christian….NONE of this administration,is a Christian, and have NO RIGHT to try and talk about the word. Americans KNOW what Christians are! AND, America KNOWS what IS going to happen in Nov. 2012 !!!!!! The little punk fraud called obama is going to be THROWN OUT of OUR WhiteHouse!!!! The American People KNOW what this administration has, and IS doing….BUT, The American People WILL STOP THEM IN THEIR SORRY TRACKS! And, DURING elections…We Are READY for Any and ALL VOTERS FRAUD!

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  • CottonMPG
    Posted on February 22, 2012 at 9:58am

    First of all, it is no surprise that Sharpton would be offended by the insinuation that Obama may not be a real Christian. He is the same kind of person himself. I was somewhat disappointed in Graham’s interview. I think he could have done a better job explaining the concept of Christianity than he did.

    It is really fairly simple. You take into account the profession of faith but with a grain of salt. The Bible is very clear that we know a tree by it’s fruit so we look at the outward actions as compared to the Biblical pattern. Ultimately it comes down to the heart. We can be fooled by the outward behavior and stated beliefs but God looks at the heart.

    As far as Mormonism goes, the Bible also teaches that if anyone, even an angel of light approaches us with a different gospel or a different Jesus than is preached there we are to count them as a non-Christian and have nothing to do with them. Mormonism believes a different gospel in addition to the Bible. They also believe you can be saved by good works and their Jesus is not the same Jesus we know from the Bible.

    So we can look at a person and feel convinced that they are a Christian, but be wrong. Also if a person has been changed by God and is now a Christian they can still rebel and wander from God but they are still Christians. Although I do believe a true Christian will not be able to live a depraved lifestyle for long before repentance. It is miserable for us as Christians to alienate ourselves from God.

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  • Snowleopard {gallery of cat folks}
    Posted on February 22, 2012 at 9:54am

    So Sharpton says now we are not to talk about our faith? Yet the good book says we are to share our faith with the world – by word and by deed, the proverbial proof in the pudding; live it, be it and say it all in one.

    Let people look at Sharptons own deeds compared to words and in the light of the bible; the fruits of his actions speak for themselves

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    • CottonMPG
      Posted on February 22, 2012 at 10:00am

      Exactly, you don’t put a lamp under a basket but put it on a lamp stand. We are called to be witnesses of Jesus Christ in all we do.

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    • MidWestMom
      Posted on February 22, 2012 at 10:15am

      Snow – once again you’ve hit the nail on the head.

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    • DD313
      Posted on February 22, 2012 at 10:26am

      Hey Al, is that your basket smoking?

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    • 65Mustang
      Posted on February 22, 2012 at 11:57am

      SNOW; I look forward to your posts, Al Sharpton wouldn’t know a real Christian if he were sitting next to Jesus Christ himself. Al Sharpton is just another POS in the Obama administration.

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