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‘Alien Interstellar Matter’ Spotted: Just How Different Is Space Outside of Our Solar System?

NASAs IBEX Detects Alien Matter From Outside Our Solar System

Artist's rendition of IBEX. (Image: NASA/GSFC via Space.com)

LOS ANGELES (The Blaze/AP) — A glimpse beyond our solar system reveals the neighborhood just outside the sun’s influence is different and stranger than expected.

NASA scientists announced Tuesday that the first evidence of “alien matter” — elements from outside of our solar system — was measured by the Interstellar Boundary Explorer (IBEX), according to Space.com:

“This alien interstellar material is really the stuff that stars and planets and people are made of — it’s really important to be measuring it,” David McComas, IBEX principal investigator and assistant vice president of the Space Science and Engineering Division at Southwest Research Institute in San Antonio, said in a news briefing [...] from NASA Headquarters in Washington, D.C.

Watch this clip about the discovery:

One oddity scientists saw was in the amount of oxygen. There are more oxygen atoms floating freely in the solar system than in the immediate interstellar space, or the vast region between stars.

Scientists were unsure why, but they said it’s possible some of the life-supporting element could be hidden in dust or ice.

“We discovered this big puzzle — that the matter just outside of our solar system doesn’t look like the material inside,” said David McComas of the Southwest Research Institute in San Antonio, Texas.

IBEX was launched in 2008 to study the chaotic boundary where the solar wind from the sun clashes with cold gases from interstellar space.

NASAs IBEX Detects Alien Matter From Outside Our Solar System

The heliosphere around the sun protects our solar system from galactic cosmic rays. (Image: SwRI via Space.com)

Circling 200,000 miles above Earth, the IBEX spacecraft spots particles streaming into the solar system. A protective bubble surrounding around the sun and planets prevents dangerous cosmic radiation from seeping through, but neutral particles can pass freely, allowing IBEX to map their distribution.

The presence of less oxygen outside the solar system should not have any bearing on the search for Earth-like planets, scientists involved in the exoplanet hunt said.

There’s plenty of oxygen in all the stars in the galaxy and in the material out of which stars and planets form, Geoff Marcy of University of California, Berkeley said in an email.

The Daily Mail reports that the scientists observed 74 oxygen atoms for every 20 neon atoms, whereas in our solar system there are 111 oxygen atoms for every 20 neon atoms. The Daily Mail has more on how scientists hope to use this data and more collected from IBEX:

With the new research scientists may now be able to map how our galaxy evolved and changed over time.

“In the beginning there was only hydrogen and helium,” Eberhard Moebius, a University of New Hampshire professor and IBEX team member at Los Alamos, said.

“These two elements formed the first stars. When those stars collapsed and died, they spewed their material, including new elements created through the process of nuclear fusion, out into space.

“We can tell a lot about the evolution of our universe and perhaps gain insight into other galaxies and planetary systems by analysing these particles.”

While IBEX probes the edge of the solar system from Earth orbit, NASA’s long-running, nuclear-powered twin Voyager spacecraft are at the fringes. Launched in 1977, the spacecraft have been exploring the solar system boundary since 2004.

Scientists have said it’ll be months or years before Voyager 1 exits the solar system and becomes the first manmade probe to cross into interstellar space.

Comments (71)

  • Xenomorph
    Posted on February 2, 2012 at 5:35pm

    Just remember…In space, no one can hear you scream.

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  • Black Manta
    Posted on February 2, 2012 at 4:34pm

    Humans can‘t explain the Lord’s work to me with out the knowledge of the Lord…

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    • stogieguy7
      Posted on February 2, 2012 at 7:19pm

      And it’s been that way since the dinosaurs died out some 4,000 years ago. They fell off the edge of the Earth.

      Funny, I always thought God was more brilliant than that – but you’re the expert.

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  • ScottyRawdy
    Posted on February 2, 2012 at 12:18pm

    This is EXACTALLY what caused my EPIPHANY about PROVING the existance of the “HUMAN SOUL”. Here’s my theory:

    EVERYTHING…. and I mean EVERYTHING has an EQUAL & (more importantly to this discussion) an OPPOSITE to it. A counterpart if you will. In order to expediate this thesis… I’ll cut to the chase instead of posting hundreds of thousands of examples such as ..Up/Down, Day/Night, Life/Death, Light/Dark, Positive/Negative..etc.etc.etc.etc.etc.etc.etc.etc.
    SOOOOO, basically our human bodies are made of a type of VISUAL MATTER which ONLY.. ONLY..ONLY scientifically suggestes that we are also made up of … NON-VISUAL MATTER.
    Which can be properly titled… OUR SOULS.
    SO, I truely believe in Anti-Matter or “DARK” matter. It only makes sense & follows the scientidic FACTS that we have PROVEN. NOT many scienticif THEORIES have been PROVEN, BUT everything having an opposite HAS been proven.

    Heaven & Earth, GOD & El Diablo… Conservatism & Marxism..etc.etc.
    GOD BLESS

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    • Sutter Buttes
      Posted on February 2, 2012 at 1:37pm

      You present an interesting thesis.

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    • BostonHarold
      Posted on February 2, 2012 at 1:58pm

      Well said! Methinks your onto the Big Truth right before our eyes. It’s thought that our universe co-exists simultaneously inside a dark unseen parallel universe that governs our physics. It is the source of the mystery of gravity. Without the subtle force of Dark Energy everything falls apart. It inhabits every atom. When the force that constrains all the cosmic energy bound up inside matter is unleashed you get H-Bombs. This would explain the faster than light neutrinos that defy Einstein’s theories that say the speed of light is an absolute. Maybe space aliens have harnessed this weird energy to power their UFO’s interdimensionally.

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    • Doctor Nordo
      Posted on February 2, 2012 at 2:54pm

      Just a small point I would like to make: anti-matter and dark matter are not the same thing.

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    • GdHUs
      Posted on February 2, 2012 at 4:09pm

      The bible often mentions that the flesh ( IMO-the physical world ) is always at odds with the sprit. I‘ve always believed the spiritual world was just another dimension that isn’t understood in our three dimensional world because, as any agnostic scientist would tell you, it can’t be observed or measured. That’s where faith comes in. God said without faith we can never hope to know or please Him. The two worlds are complete opposites. In one you hate your enemy; in the other you love them. In the carnal world you seek revenge when someone does you wrong; in the other you must be quick to forgive. In one you’re wealthy when you keep for yourself; in the other wealth comes from giving because you’re building you riches in an unseen place. By the way, does my description of the carnal world sound like a religion we know?

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    • frust@ted
      Posted on February 2, 2012 at 6:52pm

      One of the things I‘ve always told people is of course God didn’t create the Earth in 7 days of course there was no Adam and Eve as we understand it. Imagine God trying to write a bible that got into the in depth science of how he created everything it would make no sense. Even his explanation of himself what heaven or hell all of it has to be dumbed down so we can understand/ comprehend it.

      It’s the equivelent of trying to explain to your dog why you have to go to work everyday, you can’t.

      For me It was an awesome revelation because everytime I read a article about science it brings me closer to God.

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    • Honestybefore truth
      Posted on February 3, 2012 at 7:28am

      FRUST@TED

      Very good, you’ve come to part of the same conclusion I did years ago. I’ve never understood the friction between science and religion for that very reason. How was God going to explain evolution, creation, etc. to primitive man. Simple enough, how about the same parable (story) form he and his followers used in most of the bible. Both atheist scientists and exact word biblical adherents tend towards purposeful ignorance and a poorer for it.

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  • smokey888x2
    Posted on February 2, 2012 at 12:07pm

    You cannot use the term ‘dark matter’ ….. racist bunch of scientist!!

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    • Joshua7
      Posted on February 3, 2012 at 6:55pm

      LOL !

      Where is my like button, Blaze staff?

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  • ANYBODY_BUT_OBAMA
    Posted on February 2, 2012 at 11:52am

    To TOUCHY TOUCHY TOUCHY:
    This is from IBEX’s website about its orbit found under Mission Design:
    “IBEX then uses an additional solid rocket motor and its own onboard propulsion system to boost iteself into a high altitude orbit that reaches 200 thousand miles above the Earth. ” Hmmmm, 200,000 miles looks correct to me. Do I hear a Mea Culpa?

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  • Touchy Touchy Touchy
    Posted on February 2, 2012 at 8:18am

    Come on Blaze, do you guys employ any proof readers, or anyone with a brain and common sense? “Orbiting 200,000 miles above earth” Good grief, the moon is 250,000 miles above earth. Maybe more like 200 miles?? Idiots.

     
    • Attention2Detail
      Posted on February 2, 2012 at 10:31am

      Before you call someone an idiot, maybe you should know what you’re talking about. IBEX is in an eliptical orbit which ranges from about 5000 to 190000 miles. That would make the 200,000 number a lot closer than your 200. Who’s the idiot now?

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    • cvanrijn
      Posted on February 2, 2012 at 10:37am

      Mission specs call for the probe to orbit at some 7000km (roughly 4349 miles), so neither of you is right. NTTIAWWT

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    • BlackMesa
      Posted on February 2, 2012 at 10:39am

      Google may not be YOUR friend, but any search engine will reveal NASA’s info regarding the orbit.

      http://www.ibex.swri.edu/mission/flightsystem.shtml

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    • Attention2Detail
      Posted on February 2, 2012 at 11:23am

      #EVANRIJN Here is a quote from the NASA web site IBEX Q&A. ” The IBEX satellite will climb into an orbit that goes 5/6 of the way to the Moon.” They also have a very nice simulation of the orbit that shows an eliptical orbit that reaches near the lunar orbit. Maybe you should have read a little more than the launch specs. Just because it was released at under 5000 miles, doesn‘t mean that’s where it stays.

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  • I_can't_believe_this_stuff
    Posted on February 2, 2012 at 7:13am

    Good news for the 0bama lemmings … the space between their ears is not really empty; they’ve found oxyen and neon!

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    • AOL_REFUGEE
      Posted on February 2, 2012 at 12:00pm

      That‘s between one Obama lemming’s ear and another one’s ear; the space between each one’s left and right ear, as with Obama himself, is empty.

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  • hillbillyinny
    Posted on February 2, 2012 at 6:31am

    Isn’t God GREAT!

    I have so many questions when I get to heaven and I can’t wait to hear and wonder at the answers and laught at the irony of our stupidity and the great WISDOM OF GOD!

    Maranatha!

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  • mikee1
    Posted on February 2, 2012 at 6:22am

    See UFOs AND NEWTON’S BIBLE CODE at AMAZON KINDLE AND BARNES & NOBLE NOOK BOOKS, as well as other UFO FICTION THAT PROVIDES ANSWERS.

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  • 4xeverything
    Posted on February 2, 2012 at 6:01am

    I do hope they figure out what exactly dark matter is though. I’ve just aleays been curious.

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    • Attention2Detail
      Posted on February 2, 2012 at 10:35am

      Here’s your answer, Dark matter and dark energy are wild guesses to compensate for the fact that current theories don’t account for some of what we observe. We need them because without them we would have to admit that there are things we think we know that are wrong.

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    • dthomps6
      Posted on February 2, 2012 at 11:19am

      Why’s it have to be dark matter? racist :)

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    • atechgeek
      Posted on February 2, 2012 at 12:44pm

      It’s all wrong :-) The basis of calculus is purely an estimate that to extremes comes to a logical conclusion. Here’s the idea .. to get from point a to point b you MUST travel 1/2 the way to point b first. From that point to point b you must first travel 1/2 the way … again and again .. mathematically you will never reach point b. In reality you do. We are very wrong on a ton of “scientific” things .. and our answer is that there must be a God.

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  • Nemo13
    Posted on February 2, 2012 at 5:47am

    I think if they keep looking, they’ll find the galatic light switch and turn it on, then we can see where the hell we are going, haha..

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  • grannyrecipe
    Posted on February 2, 2012 at 5:32am

    Why is it so “important to measure it” like they are gonna do something about it?

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  • democritusoilder267
    Posted on February 2, 2012 at 3:46am

    Outer space holds many, many, many mysteries.

    “Consider again that dot. That’s here. That’s home. That’s us. On it everyone you love, everyone you know, everyone you ever heard of, every human being who ever was, lived out their lives. The aggregate of our joy and suffering, thousands of confident religions, ideologies, and economic doctrines, every hunter and forager, every hero and coward, every creator and destroyer of civilization, every king and peasant, every young couple in love, every mother and father, hopeful child, inventor and explorer, every teacher of morals, every corrupt politician, every “superstar”, every “supreme leader”, every saint and sinner in the history of our species lived there – on a mote of dust suspended in a sunbeam.” -Carl Sagan

    I love this quote on how important the Earth is in space. Kind of small isn’t it? When you think about it. Even though I have my own belief in a God I feel there are mysteries we haven‘t found out in space on why we’re here or what’s out there waiting for us to find it.

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    • John_The_Beloved
      Posted on February 2, 2012 at 4:17am

      Then God said, “My Son it is not good that We be alone.” So God set about to create the heavens.
      With need for companionship and desire to show His Love, He stretch forth his mighty Hand and with His Finger planted a seed of His Word. Then He said, “Let it be!” and it was! His Word was deafening, for in great noise and fervent heat He stretched forth canvas of His Work.
      He created the stars and Earth with the heavens, and then he created the angels.
      He created all life on Earth, every creeping and crawling thing, everything that walked.

      ~John IV

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    • democritusoilder267
      Posted on February 2, 2012 at 4:25am

      I respectfully disagree with the verses you used. I just cannot believe in any religion; since they were created by mankind thousands of years ago when we only understood so much about science, our human nature, etc.

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    • democritusoilder267
      Posted on February 2, 2012 at 4:36am

      I can use the same logic relating to Islam and other religions.
      Surrah Al-Anbiyâ -THE PROPHETS – No.21 – Verse: 30 – 32

      (Out of their sheer ignorance some people take natural phenomena as deities or divinities. This is despite the fact the entire continuum of the universe has been created by Allah Almighty and remains fervently in action according to His given programme. At present various phenomena in the universe appear to them as functioning separately from one another, but) Do they not seriously understand that in the initial stages of creation all of them were one mass which We then parted, so that the various celestial bodies started floating in their own orbits (21:33; 36:40). (Take for example the planet earth. In its initial stages it separated from the original mass, just like a stone thrown out from a catapult ~ 79:30.) Later (when the earth became ready to bear or produce living things) We started life from water. (All living things are created from a mixture of water ~ 24:45. And over this fountain of life Allah Almighty has kept His own control ~ 11:7.)It is strange that even after all this explanation, they do not believe that only Allah Almighty wields absolute sovereignty over everything in the
      universe. verse 30

      Now, I’m not angry. Please do not see my post in that way. I’m just critical of what any religion has to say about science.

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    • democritusoilder267
      Posted on February 2, 2012 at 4:48am

      But it is interesting to see what different religions have to say about why we are we here and how everything came to be. You know what I’m saying?

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    • Cat
      Posted on February 2, 2012 at 6:07am

      Simple 1967 animation to ponder:

      http://news.discovery.com/space/mind-blowing-video-cosmic-zoom.html

      However, Eva should have rotated the clip through the darkness, instead of backing up
      There is no beginning, and there is no end

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    • Xyskalla
      Posted on February 2, 2012 at 10:13am

      The more we know about science, the more in awe of God I am, because things are thousands of times more complex than the ancients ever knew, or that we knew even several decades ago. And I have the feeling we’ve only scratched the surface, that they’re thousands of times more complex than we know now, too. Or that we’ll know in a thousand years. I believe He designed a universe that could keep us occupied learning for all eternity. As deep as we can go with science, He goes deeper still.

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  • Kankokage
    Posted on February 1, 2012 at 10:27pm

    I have a theory that may explain at least the odd gravity outside the Solar System and the oddities with the Eres orbit and other comets, not to mention the Pioneer spacecraft. There is the possibility that our sun is part of a binary – in other words, we may have a second star in our system. However, there is no visual evidence of this, nor any apparent pull on the outer planets by this second star, which could mean that a) I’m wrong, or b) the second star is a small brown dwarf – not heavy enough to mess with the orbits, not bright or big enough to be seen (only about the size of Neptune or less) but massive enough to affect objects in and around the Oort cloud and beyond, and also not bright enough to be seen. Telescopic evidence of the outer subplanets such as Eres and Haumea is not feasible because of focal points. I don’t know how one would validate this theory, however.

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  • SEECAMP
    Posted on February 1, 2012 at 10:11pm

    Check out the Urantia Book for more info on our Universe
    http://urantiabook.org/newbook/papers/p012.htm

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  • TexBork
    Posted on February 1, 2012 at 9:24pm

    It‘s George Bush’s fault.

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  • Delores at CH WV
    Posted on February 1, 2012 at 8:54pm

    Great Job to all those unemployed people who created these great new machines that are no longer funded by the Obama Administration!

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    • nelbert
      Posted on February 1, 2012 at 11:48pm

      Sad but true. Thanks to the current administration, we’ll be left watching our competitors run past our milestones while we wait in bread lines.

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    • Bible Quotin' Science Fearin' Conservative American
      Posted on February 2, 2012 at 12:41pm

      Well, since republicans want to cut taxes on everyone and defund everything, what do you expect. There’s no money for Super Colliders and what not. There‘s no quarterly profit in any of that stuff so money worshipping righties dont’ want it. They don’t need it anyway. All they need is an old book.

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  • Texas.7
    Posted on February 1, 2012 at 8:20pm

    Kinda reminds me of the “Bubble Theory” of time and space:
    http://www.usatoday.com/tech/science/space/2008-09-30-cosmic-bubble_N.htm

    “But if we happened to be in a portion of the universe with less matter in it than normal, then the space-time around us would be different than it is outside, because matter warps space-time. Light travelling from supernovae outside our bubble would appear dimmer, because the light would diverge more than we would expect once it got inside our void.

    One problem with the void idea, though, is that it negates a principle that has reigned in astronomy for more than 450 years: namely, that our place in the universe isn’t special. When Nicholas Copernicus argued that it made much more sense for the Earth to be revolving around the sun than vice versa, it revolutionized science. Since then, most theories have to pass the Copernican test. If they require our planet to be unique, or our position to be exalted, the ideas often seem unlikely.

    “This idea that we live in a void would really be a statement that we live in a special place,” Clifton told SPACE.com. “The regular cosmological model is based on the idea that where we live is a typical place in the universe. This would be a contradiction to the Copernican principle.”"

    Scientists don’t like this theory because it considers that our realm may be special- which opens up the conversation that there is a God.

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    • Twobyfour
      Posted on February 1, 2012 at 9:36pm

      What if it’s neither? What if our referential frames are very crude models that describe the elephant’s tail, but we’ve no idea how the elephant actually looks like

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    • Texas.7
      Posted on February 2, 2012 at 12:07am

      I definitely agree with that. 2011 was the year that we learned that Eisenstein was wrong about relativity. This is the year that “global warming” has blown up in the face of the “consensus” scientists. Well, quite honestly, we don’t have a clue about these things, just theories. And that is my point also. When science is used to justify a Godless world view, it is important to recognize that science is often wrong.

      Truth never changes, and God never changes. And these two stand, while all else falls away in the rubble pile of what we thought we knew.

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    • Chris
      Posted on February 2, 2012 at 8:36pm

      We didn’t learn that Einstein was wrong about relativity. We learned of a case where the theory of relativity appears not to work. It has been known, or at least suspected, that relativity didn’t work at really high energy densities. In the same vein, Newton’s physics is still useful even though it is known not to work as you approach the speed of light. A lot of Einstein’s theories work as expected – experiments verify his predictions.What it most likely means that there will be another theory developed that works properly in the places that relativity gets wrong, simplifies to be the same as relativity for the ceases that Einstein got right and further simplifies to be the same as Newton’s physics at low velocities.

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  • fishfool
    Posted on February 1, 2012 at 8:17pm

    If the Bible read like a text book wrote by Stephen Hawking, how many people would read or even understand the true take on time, space and the total vastness of it all now or even better 6 K years ago? There is a higher power make no mistake about it and your karma good or bad will lead you on the path through your future in this life and the next. BELIEVE THAT!!!!

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    • richard the lion-hearted
      Posted on February 2, 2012 at 12:48am

      The same harmony that shapes our earth in all it’s applied scientific principles and theoretical hypothesis within, including nature itself, also applies without our boundaries. A perfect example of intelligent design. To scoff at this is to deny science (actual) fact and applied mathematics to the formulation of calculations that always bear out as fact once fully realized and discovered. Steven Hawkings enough for ya all or am I just having a flashback… : )

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  • Kaoscontrol
    Posted on February 1, 2012 at 8:09pm

    — I’m no rocket scientist, but it seems like this article is saying things are a lot different outside of our solar system. Logically then, it follows then that many of the scientific communities ‘assumptions’, which are based on what we can observe here, are no longer valid throughout the rest of the universe. Perhaps these scientific geniuses will now be willing to admit that the ‘theories’ of our origin they cling too might be completely wrong.

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    • Calm Voice of Reason
      Posted on February 1, 2012 at 8:24pm

      @kaoscontrol: There was no claim that the trans-system environment was extremely exotic; there were no discoveries that defy known physics. There is no warrant for the claim that we must throw away accepted scientific understanding.

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    • Twobyfour
      Posted on February 1, 2012 at 9:15pm

      Calm Voice of Reason, well as long as we can renormalize the equations at our leasure, we‘re fine and don’t have to change our “understanding”. That does not mean we are any closer to nailing the reality, we’re just more content and feel safer.

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    • Twobyfour
      Posted on February 1, 2012 at 9:21pm

      IOW, If we are lucky to survive this time of upcoming tribulations (not meaning any religious context here), then there are discoveries on the horizon that will blow your socks off.

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    • Lesbian Packing Hollow Points
      Posted on February 1, 2012 at 9:36pm

      By that same line of reasoning, Kaos, the results of scientific experiments performed in St. Petersburg, Russia are not comparable to the results of those identical experiments performed in St. Petersburg, Florida, since they are so far apart and have such radicly different weather.

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  • TROONORTH
    Posted on February 1, 2012 at 8:09pm

    As we, well rather, as the Chinese move out from this planet there will be plenty more surprises for their scientists to puzzle over.

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    • MrObvious
      Posted on February 1, 2012 at 9:33pm

      lol … without our scientists developing new stuff, China will have to steal their tech from the Russians, EU and/or India. Once we put our aerospace engineers back to work (after political leadership changes hands), catching up and returning to our #1 status will be easier than 3.14.

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    • Twobyfour
      Posted on February 1, 2012 at 9:51pm

      MrObvious, maybe you haven’t been around as long as I have, but there was a time, believe it or not, when Japanese were known copycats. I could tell you quite funny stories about it. But then… something happened. They started producing stuff on their own, and often better than ours. Don’t underestimate Chinese, like the rest of the NE Asians, they have rather capable content in their cranial cavities.

      Funny thing, you can see a parallel in the music. When a Chinese or Korean musician, 40 years of age, plays Beethoven, it is quite superb technically, but often rather mechanical. But the young kids, the third generation that had an exposure since they popped out, it’s a different story. They get the feel, and no only they put that dimension in, but they can improvise, extend the tune organically.

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    • Twobyfour
      Posted on February 1, 2012 at 10:02pm

      Forgotten to mention, with our edumacayshun system, I have a hard time imagining that we’d take the #1 position again. It stretches credulity.

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  • paleoman
    Posted on February 1, 2012 at 8:08pm

    Space is space, the US is full of it, democrats.

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  • lukerw
    Posted on February 1, 2012 at 7:54pm

    This is great news… now, the Scientific can address this… rather than ManMade Global Warming and creating BlackHoles to suck us in!

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    • Twobyfour
      Posted on February 1, 2012 at 9:32pm

      Don’t get me started on the fairy tale entities like White Dwarf, Red Giant and Darkwing Duck!

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    • MrObvious
      Posted on February 1, 2012 at 9:36pm

      Don’t forget Red Dwarf (a syfi hit from bbc/pbs – well worth watching).

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  • timber wolf
    Posted on February 1, 2012 at 7:42pm

    “In the beginning there was only hydrogen and helium,” Eberhard Moebius
    NO
    “In the beginning God created the heavens and the earth” Genesis 1:1

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    • Anarcho Capitalist
      Posted on February 1, 2012 at 8:10pm

      Are you saying God is Hydrogen and Helium?

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    • Twobyfour
      Posted on February 1, 2012 at 9:08pm

      1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. 2 He was with God in the beginning. 3 Through him all things were made; without him nothing was made that has been made. 4 In him was life, and that life was the light of all mankind. 5 The light shines in the darkness, and the darkness has not overcome it.

      If you consider that the message is conveyed by a vocabulary that is influenced by semantics and common usage of the time, there are two essential layers, one is pure physics and another is intent, a spiritual dimension as it were.

      The Word is a frequency (or a range of frequencies) creating a ripple and interference patterns. That is essentially all you need to create space and time. Everything else flows from that moment. The light represents energy (a vector formed by scalars of the initial interference patterns) that can’t be destroyed and it is a building base of life. The concept of mankind is contained in the initial impetus, and also all things that came, are coming and will be coming to existence. We contain the Word within ourselves and thus also the blueprint of the universe, a referential fraction (or fractal). This has been expressed in some esoteric systems (no doubt familiar to John) by the concept of “As above so below”, expressing the unity or common origin of all things and recursion from a singular/specific manifestation to the whole.

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  • Sirfoldallot
    Posted on February 1, 2012 at 6:55pm

    & we can’t get along with each other on planet earth so we r light yrs away from getting away , dumb azz’s

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    • Twobyfour
      Posted on February 1, 2012 at 9:27pm

      A conflict of free will and predetermination. At least from our specific existential position in the scheme of things. If we were free of any conflict, we would simply stagnate into oblivion. If we were nothing but conflict incarnates, we would obliterate ourselves into oblivion. Thusly, we have to walk a fine line and it is not without pain nor always a success.

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