All 14 Wisc. Senate Dems Join Pro-Labor Protesters in March Around Capitol
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MADISON, Wis. (AP) – Clogging the Wisconsin Capitol grounds and screaming angry chants, tens of thousands of undaunted pro-labor protesters descended on Madison again Saturday and vowed to focus on future elections now that contentious cuts to public worker union rights have become law.
Protests have rocked the Capitol almost every day since Gov. Scott Walker proposed taking nearly all collective bargaining rights away from public workers, but the largest came a day after the governor signed the measure into law. Madison Police estimated the crowd at 85,000 to 100,000 people—along with 50 tractors and one donkey—by late afternoon. No one was arrested.
Speakers delivered angry diatribes while the crowd carried signs comparing Walker to dictators and yelled thunderous chants of “this is what democracy looks like.”
“This is so not the end,” said protester Judy Gump, a 45-year-old English teacher at Madison Memorial High School. “This is what makes people more determined and makes them dig in.”
Walker’s signature on the measure capped a week of political maneuvering to end a bitter, month-long standoff that began when the state’s 14 Democratic senators fled to Illinois in an ultimately futile attempt to block the legislation.
Throngs of protesters gathered Saturday outside a convention center where senators made their first public appearances in Madison since ending their self-imposed exile. Demonstrators treated the lawmakers like rock stars, yelling “Fab 14, our heroes!” and giddily snapping pictures.
All 14 Democrats later marched around the Capitol, trading chants of “thank you” with protesters who ringed the sidewalks. When the senators made their way to a stage, they promised to shift their energies toward recall drives already under way against eight of their GOP colleagues.
“Now … we trade in our rally signs for clipboards and we take to the streets to recall the Republicans,” Sen. Chris Larson of Milwaukee told the cheering crowd, “and in one year we recall the governor that refuses to listen.”
Walker is not eligible to be recalled until he completes his first year in office in January 2012.
Eight of the Democrats also face recall efforts. Senate Majority Leader Scott Fitzgerald issued a statement Saturday calling them the most shameful 14 people in the state.
“(Fleeing to Illinois) is an absolute insult to the hundreds of thousands of Wisconsinites who are struggling to find a job, much less one they can run away from and go down to Illinois—with pay,” Fitzgerald said.
Walker’s plan has spurred a national debate over labor rights. Its passage is a key victory for Republicans who have targeted unions in efforts to cut government spending across the country. Democrats see it as a blatant attempt to weaken organized labor, one of their strongest campaign allies.
Labor leaders have promised to use the setback to fire up members and mount a major counterattack against Republicans at the ballot box in 2012.
“We’re never going to give up,” said Marilyn Rolfsmeyer, 56, who serves as the 300-student Argyle School District’s only art teacher. “What part of it don’t they understand? There’s hope here. I feel it. You feel the energy, the intensity. Somebody’s got to be out there feeling it, too.”
Dozens of fist-pumping farmers drew cheers as they chugged around the Capitol square in tractors bearing signs with messages such as “planting the seeds for a big season of recalls.”
Tod Pulvermacher, 33, of Bear Valley, towed a manure spreader carrying a sign that read, “Walker’s bill belongs here.”
“Farmers are working-class Americans,” he said as the crowd cheered. “We work for a living as hard as anybody, and this is about all of us.”
Walker has repeatedly argued that ending collective bargaining gives local governments much-needed flexibility to confront cuts in state aid necessary to fix Wisconsin’s deficit, which is expected to grow to $3.6 billion deficit over two years.
The new law erases public workers’ ability to collectively bargain anything except wages up to the rate of inflation. It also requires them to contribute more to their pensions and health care, changes that amount to an 8 percent pay cut. Police and firefighters are exempt.
The Senate Democrats had fled to deny Republicans, who hold a 19-14 Senate majority, the 20-member quorum needed to vote on measures that spend money. But GOP leaders worked around them Wednesday, calling a special committee to take spending items out of Walker’s proposal.
The Senate passed it 18-1 minutes later. Assembly Republicans approved it the next day.
Democratic Dane County Executive Kathleen Falk has filed a lawsuit seeking to block the secretary of state from publishing the law, the last step before it takes effect. She argues the bill still contained fiscal items and that the committee meeting violated Wisconsin’s open meeting law.
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Comments (327)
Hawker
Posted on March 13, 2011 at 9:28amI fear that the vote fraud in WI will be rampant in any elections now .
Report Post »GeorgieJo
Posted on March 13, 2011 at 10:26amAS IF IT WASN’T before!!!!
Report Post »Bill in Texas
Posted on March 14, 2011 at 11:56amGood thing the Republicans have the Secretary of State. I‘m sure he’ll investigate all allogations of voter fraud. Right?
Report Post »fatsomann
Posted on March 13, 2011 at 9:27amIf these people are able to recall this governor over this issue is it possible we can do the same to our president & members of congress who don’t follow the will of the people? Healthcare law prime example, cap & trade, czars run amok, budget crisis…….so many reasons…..
Report Post »Why wait for an election?
progressiveslayer
Posted on March 14, 2011 at 1:36pmI like your thinking fatsoman but impeaching the dear leader won’t happen.The republicans don’t have the spine to try it,I wish they did, we’ll have to wait to vote the communist out. When the new black panther party freaks show up at the polls we’ll have to deal with them. The dems, progressives,communists,they’re all the same to me, will be engaged in voter fraud that’s what they do.
Report Post »dordor
Posted on March 13, 2011 at 9:19amSo the 14 senators are heros now!….circulating among the throngs of defeated pro unionists. Aside from deminishing their bloated pension and insurance plans they might see that the extra money NOT going to elect candidates of the Union leaders choosing will be in their pockets. They then will decide where their money goes.
Report Post »dadsrootbeer
Posted on March 13, 2011 at 9:14amAny question that these people are radical progressives.
Report Post »Devil Dog 7175
Posted on March 13, 2011 at 9:26amOh… They have finally decided to show their cowardly faces and do something? Too late now, And by the way, who was paying for your little excursion when you ran and hid like the cowards you are? Sure hope you wern’t accepting any of the money the unions raised to support you. That would be illegal… But you already know that … Right???
Report Post »ares338
Posted on March 13, 2011 at 8:57amIf people get out and vote next time they could easily get rid of the remaining 14 traitorous, progressive and socialist remaining in Wisconsin in the Senate.
Report Post »Joe Astroturf
Posted on March 13, 2011 at 8:54amThey can join the other violent people out there we should be keeping our eyes on including Democrat Congressman Michael Capuano who wants to bloody anyone that don’t agree with him fits right in with a lot of Obama’s cohorts. He should get right along with Obama’s Philly Black panthers that want to prevent whites from voting and kill little white ******* babies. They call tea partiers racists but Obama and his ugly looking friend Andy Stern formerly of SEIU didn’t care about Kenneth Gladney almost getting killed by some purple shirted SEIU thugs as they were calling him the N word. One of the SEIU thugs looked similar to someone climbing through the Wisconsin capitol windows recently to intimidate republicans. The fringe media didn’t report the beating here it is below no one has been prosecuted.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pe5J22JPNnU&feature=related
After the Assembly voted to approve Governor Scott Walker’s budget repair bill Democrat State Rep. Gordon Hintz turned to Republican Rep. Michelle Litjens and said: “You are F***king dead!”. Outside a demonstrator was attacking a Fox news reporter Mike Tobin. Even the little punk Dwarf Robert Reich is threatening people to hand over their money or he’ll get mad and throw his pink hanky at someone.
Please Check out song called teapartiers I can’t hear you at http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cJfboOindCo
Soldiers as you and your wife leave your last trace
at least you won’t have to see Nancys botox face
that chicken neck of hers wouldn’t look good on a snail
her and a few of her pals in 2012 wil be in jail
Tea partiers I can’t hear you
You won’t have to see that venemous plastic face
she wants patriots like Gladney to disappear without a trace
she wants the purple shirts to call him the “N” word and bury him in place
Townhallers I still can’t hear you
Report Post »az620
Posted on March 13, 2011 at 8:51amSore LOSERS……………Now they know how it feels, like when Nobama and his thugs shoved through 3000 pages of theft to the american taxpayers……….suck on that….more to follow!!!!!
Report Post »orlandojon
Posted on March 13, 2011 at 8:48amI see the “Flee-baggers” are back…keep marching and posing for those mugshots that the state media keeps posting all over the place. It reminds the tax payer why we need conservatives to clean up the liberal mess.
Report Post »Hammer Inc.
Posted on March 13, 2011 at 8:44amOfcourse these 14 dem senators are going to join the crowds now….they are protesting all the campaign donations they will not be getting anymore to secure thier jobs. Pathetic !
Report Post »dsm
Posted on March 13, 2011 at 8:42amI am convinced that if the taxpayers in WI knew how much of their own money is going to these morons. The taxpayer revolt would put the useful idiot revolt to shame. Stay strong Gov. Walker.
Report Post »Shane0143
Posted on March 13, 2011 at 8:39amCheck this out people, then ask yourself why Obama wanys so many blacks on the force!
Under pressure from Obama administration…
City Lowers Police Testing Standards Because Not Enough Blacks Passed…
http://abc.daytonsnewssource.com/shared/newsroom/top_stories/videos/wkef_vid_6103.shtml
Report Post »Mainer forever
Posted on March 13, 2011 at 12:15pmThis has got to be one of the saddest things I’ve read. This is unbeliveable.. Lowering the standard test scores so more minorities (meaning african americans) will pass. What is UP with this? What does this say about our education system? This is really sad.
Report Post »Tnredneck
Posted on March 13, 2011 at 12:57pmHey Shane, the lowering of standards for testing have been going on for a while now. And the resultsare what you see in Wisconsin. This is America. We should be raising the standards. Until we do we will get more of the same I am afraid. Merit is a scary thing for progressives
Report Post »wildbill_b
Posted on March 13, 2011 at 9:23pmThe lowering of standards has been going on for over 45 years. It is a statistical fact that only 41% of 4 year graduate students can read and extrapolate accurate information from complex text. These figures reflect the results of a study done at Harvard and Yale. The average “high school” grad reads at what was the 5th grade level in in 1970. Additionally the study done on college grads found that most were UNABLE to perform simple tasks such as figure price per pound on food items and were unable to correctly balance a checkbook.
Only by lowering standards can the states receive more money for “better education”. When all that is required to graduate is the ability to properly spell your own name, most kids will be able to graduate. Until keep an eye out for the falling standards.
Report Post »Mister_Bill
Posted on March 13, 2011 at 8:29amLooks like someone got their baby bottle taken away. I have seen children act more responsible. I am surethey have energized a lot of the followers but, that is not the majority of Americans. This is a representative republic not a democracy. A democracy is ruled by mob rule and that is what I see here.
Report Post »alrunner58
Posted on March 13, 2011 at 8:28amAll I can say is, too bad, already a law and 2/3 of the protestors have not a clue why they’re there. Can FOX get someone out there to interview some of these morons? I could use a good laugh.
Report Post »canuck44
Posted on March 13, 2011 at 8:27amDon’t get mad, get even. The Dems have shown the way on health care with $105 Billion buried for future use….PRIVATIZE. And while you are at it sign contracts for Charter Schools ten or twenty years down the road.
Report Post »Repeal10
Posted on March 13, 2011 at 8:24amThis is how it is done in Moscow! When do they bring the babies out to kiss?
Report Post »kickagrandma
Posted on March 13, 2011 at 8:27am@REPEAL10 ~~ Their babes are in the backrooms where their souls are sold to the devil they worship.
Report Post »ilovetheusa1
Posted on March 13, 2011 at 9:49amthey’re Democrats, they aborted the babies.
Report Post »Bluebonnet
Posted on March 14, 2011 at 10:44amYes, I often wonder what‘s gonna happen to those who’ve killed unborn babies, worse yet, put scissors in their necks before (maybe) they left the birth canal. I cry silently for these millions of innocent babies.
Report Post »Same for the women who allowed this to happen to their own babies, God’s creation made in his image. By the way, if you’ve ever said the pledge, we live in a Republic, not a socialist country.
obfuscatenot
Posted on March 13, 2011 at 8:23amSoooo, the State employed unions STILL have collective bargaining rights on their wages, Federal workers do not, I’d say they are trying to kill the goose that lays the golden egg. This is not Democrat vs. Republican – it’s the ruling class vs. the peasants. The unions are simply the castle guard.
Report Post »QuantumVerp
Posted on March 13, 2011 at 8:21amGive me a hat and a protest sign! I want to march around the capitol!
(This is downright childish, as usual)
Report Post »beebacksoon
Posted on March 13, 2011 at 8:20amInstead of hiding out, if the 14 dems didn’t like what was going on, why didn’t they join the protester to begin with? Because they know they screwed up and now are trying to save their political butt!
Report Post »dmforman
Posted on March 13, 2011 at 9:59amExactly and they are able to get people who don’t understand that or the true issues to get behind them. The farmers there don‘t understand that the democrats don’t care about the poor farmers either. The people agreeing with the democrats are like sheep being lead to slaughter, they have no clue.
Report Post »uncleskull
Posted on March 13, 2011 at 10:38amWas it liberal dems in CA who cut off the water to save a minnow? That shows how much D’s care for farmers. Driving around the countryside, I think Wisconsin has its fair share of farmers. What we need now is fewer D’s.
Report Post »kickagrandma
Posted on March 13, 2011 at 8:19amIf there was any doubt about whose pockets these cretins were in, this action nails it.
Jesus God, what an unholy mess AMERICA is in. We need You and we need Your intervention as we stand in Your name against all that is evil.
Come, Lord Jesus!
Report Post »Tnredneck
Posted on March 13, 2011 at 10:01amIt should be “I come Jesus” we have a lot of work to do before we throw in the towel. And moved the time change up to mid march. I forgot all about it and am late for early church
Report Post »OHOH54
Posted on March 13, 2011 at 8:18amHailed as heros but are really cowards for not staying and doing the job they were suppose to do. Make you wonder were this country is going.
Report Post »teachermitch32
Posted on March 13, 2011 at 1:20pmIs it just me? I’m wondering why farmers were there protesting. Have they not heard of the UFW? I’m mean, really! Are these hemp farmers or something? Perhaps they have been around their chemicals for too long. Maybe they are just farmer workers and they stole the tractors. I just don’t know. I just don’t get it. Can anyone help me understand.
ChiefGeorge…. let’s not forget that we are a Republic. What is happening in Wis. with these demonstrators and legislators is democracy (socialism) in action. It is certainly not, and has not been for weeks, the Republic that has been established (with the exception of the legislatures move to eliminate collective bargaining while the Dems were absent). The legislators fleeing the state has no part in this great country’s system of government. There needs to be some legislation passed, and soon, that would make this kind of legilative display illegal in the future. Ignoring ones responsibility in office should be a crime.
Report Post »beebacksoon
Posted on March 13, 2011 at 8:18amUnion bosses and members keep saying Gov. Walker took away worker rights. ANY ONE that holds a job, whether it be in the public or private sector has worker rights. Bargaining for hours and pay is not a right. If you feel you deserve a raise, or your company offers a flex work schedule, you go to your boss/supervisor (not the governor) and state your case. Good for Gov. Walker! He has a strong following, not just in WI, but around the globe!
Report Post »uncleskull
Posted on March 13, 2011 at 10:31amIt is unfortunate the good guys we just voted into office must face this kind of monumental pressure so early in their freshman year. Onthe plus side, it should give them something the dems lack – integrity.
We support Walker and appreciate his efforts restoring fiscal sanity to Wisconsin! WTG!
Report Post »Non-sequitur
Posted on March 13, 2011 at 11:27am“We support Walker and appreciate his efforts restoring fiscal sanity to Wisconsin!”
Walker cut taxes when the state was in financial trouble. How is that sane?
Report Post »13th Imam
Posted on March 13, 2011 at 12:26pmNon
Report Post »Maybe you’re onto something. Raise taxes on Business’s to 120%. Raise taxes on Homeowners to 200%. Give any and all benefits to Public Sector Unions that are asked for. Raise the minimum wage to 10.00./Hr, no wait , 15.00/Hr would be better, no wait 25.00/Hr would be terrific. All students should get an Ipod and Laptop free, and so that no one is hungry all meals should be paid for by the State, Free medical coverage is a “right”, so all medical including dental should be covered. for all student’s, union members and responsible DemoKrat legislators.,for life.
jowolo
Posted on March 13, 2011 at 8:17amThe unions and the dumbocrat congress people prove one thing: Democracy= Mob Rule. That is why we are a republic.
Report Post »Lesterp
Posted on March 13, 2011 at 9:42amYou are correct sir!
Report Post »Tnredneck
Posted on March 13, 2011 at 9:56am50% of Americans don’t know we are a republic!
Report Post »the killjoy
Posted on March 13, 2011 at 9:59amlook, jowowlo, your beliefs and standards are yours, and i respect them. i have begun, however, to resent this cheap, madison avenue type of “rebranding” when it comes to language.
mr. beck and others have gotten a little wankery from taking the word “democracy” and erasing it simply to get the word “republic” (as in republican) used in it’s stead. we are in fact a democratic republic, yes, but it is pure orwellian cynicism to use words to control thought.
each time the right cries “we are a republic!”, they insult the memories of generations who fought and died for democracy, as that was the word (and concept) we they into battle to defend.
that there would come a day when americans would say to other americans “we are not a democracy” would break the hearts of the founding fathers you claim to revile.
please just think about it. words are powerful and the children are listening.
tenring
Posted on March 13, 2011 at 10:20amThe president is the great divider. His policies are very far left in a county that is center right. Newton’s laws of motion particularly the 3rd law is very descriptive of what is occurring. The union thugs are now gearing up to create a greater calumny between the American people. Watch out for the Chicago Machine it is in Wisconsin already leading the voter fraud.
Report Post »BCNU
Posted on March 13, 2011 at 10:21amUS Constitution, Article IV, Section IV
The United States shall guarantee to every State in this Union a REPUBLICAN Form of Government, and shall protect each of them against Invasion; and on Application of the Legislature, or of the Executive (when the Legislature cannot be convened) against domestic Violence
Report Post »sbleve
Posted on March 13, 2011 at 10:25amYes and Yes. Our form of governance – individual at the core is under attack.
Report Post »Uncle Crusty
Posted on March 13, 2011 at 12:54pmhey killjoy, you are just that, man, you wouldn’t know a rebublic from a communist state! We are a representative Republic, not a democracy, and obviously you have no idea of the difference between the two! God Bless ya though!
Report Post »wildbill_b
Posted on March 13, 2011 at 9:08pm@The Killjoy
Do you actually believe that you can use “Democracy” and “Republic” as a compound word? They are diametric opposites. Read the federalist papers. We are a “federated” Republic.
A Democracy in ANY form is mob rule. 51% overrules 49%.
In a Republic everyone has the right to decide for themselves what is best for them. Today as then we have a choice to be a “person” in statute, or be a individual Man who is responsible for themselves and there is NO victimless crime. That Democratic republic BS is socialist revision of history and a direct result of the poor education system I see today.
It is truly pathetic when 60% of 4 year graduate students are illiterate. But they think they got an education. Just ask them. Reminds me of a great movie which seems to be prophetic called “Idiocracy”. Coming soon to a state near you.
Report Post »jhaydeng
Posted on March 13, 2011 at 8:16amReally? Guy‘s it’s over. Nothing to see here!
Report Post »Bluebonnet
Posted on March 14, 2011 at 10:28amThe wicked 14 should be fired, recalled or whatever else it takes for the havoc they’ve caused. They were supposed to be responsible for the States business and ran away like little children to hide. I’m sure they are being paid by the unions to do this dirty work. If you can’t do the job you were voted to do, please step down and let responsible people do the work at hand. What the hell is wrong with you people in Wisconsin to accept this kind of rebellion? Stand up for your state & Governor. He’s working for you to keep from paying the pensions & higher than normal wages that you don’t get.
Report Post »Thatsitivehadenough
Posted on March 13, 2011 at 8:14amMake the union bosses and the unions pay for every single penny that their riots inside the capital cost the taxpayers. Charge these people with vandalism and destruction of public property and put them into jail.
THE UNIONS ARE RESPONSIBLE AND THEY SHOULD PAY
The Democrats should be fined $1,000 per day for every single day they stayed away.
Report Post »beebacksoon
Posted on March 13, 2011 at 8:26amYES! They should pay for the clean up and damages. Won’t happen though.
Report Post »Obama Bin Lying
Posted on March 13, 2011 at 8:12amOf course the Demorats would march. They could care less about Democratic process or the Constitution. We see how they act in the face of something they don’t like…..they run and hide. Then come back and try to play they are the good guys.
Why do people still vote for these fools?
Shane0143
Posted on March 13, 2011 at 8:38amGood question!! Why do people vote for them?! They are all crooks. I hope when these protesters get their paychecks, and see the extra money that is not going to the thug union boss they will smile and realize what this is all about.
On a side note. Check this out people, then ask yourself why Obama wanys so many blacks on the force!
Under pressure from Obama administration…
City Lowers Police Testing Standards Because Not Enough Blacks Passed…
http://abc.daytonsnewssource.com/shared/newsroom/top_stories/videos/wkef_vid_6103.shtml
Report Post »banjarmon
Posted on March 13, 2011 at 8:39amThe dems are trying to be the leaders, in front of a train that is on a track, heading for a WRECK. YEEEHAW!!
Report Post »sissykatz
Posted on March 13, 2011 at 8:42amThis just makes me sick to see them treated as heroes.I think they should itemize the costs of all the destruction, overtime for Police and security, clean up and everything related to and caused by their absence that the TAXPAYERS will be responsible for and publish it so all can see what it has cost them
Report Post »and see if ALL of Wisconsin is still so happy about what they did.Then start the recall on the Democrats.The cost of this debachle is going to be astronomical.
davefaith
Posted on March 13, 2011 at 8:51am“Marilyn Rolfsmeyer, 56, who serves as the 300-student Argyle School District’s only art teacher.”
WaaWaaWaaaaaaaaa!!!!
My mom taught art to 1200 kids at 4 different schools one year. And she did it off a cart because they did not have a room for her to use. Now she may have had a reason to bi*** about that.
BUT 300 kids? What’s the class load for these Wis. teachers? Oh… I forgot. SInce all kids now have IEP’s etc, the ratio is around 1 student to 1.5 teachers/aids.
Report Post »MiketheTrucker
Posted on March 13, 2011 at 9:05amThe legislators who need to be recalled are these democrats.
Report Post »proudpatriot77
Posted on March 13, 2011 at 9:23amI heard that this was the biggest gathering of Communists in the United States since the last Obama rally.
Report Post »SHTFM.COM Are You Prepared ?
Posted on March 13, 2011 at 9:29am@ Obama Bin Lying
Report Post »And they should all be let go from OFFICE also.
vidyohs
Posted on March 13, 2011 at 9:42amIt is and always has been a fact that the socialist left (looney left) will fight harder and longer to keep their hand in your pocket, than you will to make them take it out.
They will never remove their hand voluntarily, it is up to you to make them; and, baby it is obvious that means a fight.
Report Post »Tnredneck
Posted on March 13, 2011 at 9:53amBecause the people voting ARE fools!
Report Post »SPOT_OF_TEA
Posted on March 13, 2011 at 9:53amThey could always go back under the rock they crawled out from.
Report Post »americansfightingforcommonsense
Posted on March 13, 2011 at 9:54amI put the blame almost soely on the Left Wing Media. We have always had people in this country that wanted to do her harm, but never before have we had such a lazy, dishonest, one-sided, greedy, selfish, socialist, communist, naive, egotistical, unpatriotic bunch of propagandists running our new outlets. Most of these people should be tried for treason. Or at least fired for imcompidence. Too many people totally believe the propaganda that is spewed out of their mouths (You know who i am talking aboug MSBC, NBC, ABC, CNN, NPR) and then vote to keep the enemies of true freedom in power. Wake Up America!!! We are underseige. Liberty as we know is about to be lost forever.
Report Post »Whatever happened to “Love thy neighbor” ; “Do unto others as you would have them do unto you”; “Love thy God”; “ Be a moral people”. We, as a nation, must get back to those principles that made us great. Those principles and ordinances that made us a chosen people of God the Father who is in Heaven.
Remember, it is not your government or your union that gives you inalienable rights. It is our God!
drbage
Posted on March 13, 2011 at 10:15am@Shane0143.
Report Post »Good point and further on Obama’s position or lack thereof, the education system has been dumbing down the curriculum for years and the fruits of their labor are now ready to harvest. The latest data available in MO show that 42% of high school graduates who go on to college need at least one year of remedial work and 28% need two years which is great for the colleges who now have tuition payments for five or six years, but not so great for parents, taxpayers, or students. Back in the dark ages (the 60′s) when I was in school, a goal was set to raise the bar and reward achievement, but nowadays it seems the goal is to lower the bar to get more to pass and competition is considered bad. Just wait until these students get out into the real world, i.e. one where they are rewarded and advanced based on individual merit and not union dictated norms.
grandmaof5
Posted on March 13, 2011 at 10:16amThese fools need to be impeached and replaced by people who care for the future of all Wisconians (?), not just the public sector. Those college students, for the most part, aren’t tax payers yet and have no clue what they are supporting, probably getting an assured grade from their entitled profs for showing up. It is a shame representatives elected by all sectors across Wisconsin have sided with one group with no regard for the rest of the population, some of whom are jobless, lost their homes, or are below poverty level.
Report Post »fertlmind
Posted on March 13, 2011 at 10:17amELECTION FRAUD!!! Thats how!!!!!!
the polls across America are rigged
here in Oregon the sec of state just decided that blank, unused paper ballots should be kept after the election is over ‘just to protect from disenfranchisement’. These blank, unused paper ballots have always been distroyed immediatly sfter the polls closed.
But not any more! Now they are available to be used for potential fraud.
Why the change?
Because republicans are beginning to close the gap on the democratically controlled government here.
Well, we can’t have THAT in Oregon now can we?
So in addition to felons, illegal aliens with fake id, the dead, and people casting multiple ballots, we now also have these blank baoolts to play hanky panky with in the close elections where republicans are slightly ahead.
AND THE UNIONIZED PUBLIC EMPLOYEES ARE IN CHARGE OF THE ENTIRE SYSTEM ADMINISTRATION.
These 14 Democratic senators in Wisconsin won’t be needing a fake medical excuse from their bosses.
THEY ARE MARCHING IN THE CAPITAL WITH THEIR BOSSES. U N I O N B O S S E S!!!!!!
If we don’t destroy public unions,…they will destroy us.
Go Get Em Scott Walker and company!!!!!!
DOWN WITH PUBLIC UNIONS !!!!!!!!!!!!!!! UP WITH FREEDOM AND LIBERTY !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Report Post »bulletsinthegun
Posted on March 13, 2011 at 10:35amthe roachs have joined the drones
Report Post »BCNU
Posted on March 13, 2011 at 10:49amVoter Fraud/Corruption is being challenged.
http://biggovernment.com/wthuston/2011/03/11/activists-in-23-states-coming-together-in-texas-to-true-the-vote/
Please join me in Houston, TX to attend the True the Vote Meeting/Rally this week.
US Constitution, Article IV, Section IV
The United States shall guarantee to every State in this Union a REPUBLICAN Form of Government, and shall protect each of them against Invasion; and on Application of the Legislature, or of the Executive (when the Legislature cannot be convened) against domestic Violence.
Report Post »Cemoto78
Posted on March 13, 2011 at 10:56am14 politicians and their supporters who all suffer from cranium rectal insertion and need to seek help immediately. The average person with ANY type of common sense could see these 14 cowards should NEVER be in the positions they hold. If one of these political children represented me, I believe they would get tired of hearing from me about how clueless and classless they truly are.
Report Post »WIjoyzie
Posted on March 13, 2011 at 11:01amI’ve never voted for the fool that holds the seat of senator in my district… one of the 14 jacka$$es, bought and paid for by unions! The Dem strongholds of Milwaukee and Madison have been ruled by these idiots for all my life. Thank goodness the Republicans are working to break us free of the bondage we have lived with for 50 years!
Report Post »Marcobob69
Posted on March 13, 2011 at 11:02amI can only speak for myself, but these Wisconsin “14” lost all of my respect when they “ran away from their jobs, instead of DOING what the people of Wisconsin elected them to do. How many people in their jobs would CONTINUE to have a job if they did something like this to their “employer”, otherwise known as the PEOPLE OF WISCONSIN. This is liberal politics at their WORST, and the people of Wisconsin, and the United States for that matter, deserve better than what these 14 did. I believe they should all be IMPEACHED IMMEDIATELY for deserting their posts, just like in the military! You desert your post in the military, you get SHOT! I’m only talking impeachment, no violence, please!!!! The liberal left is causing enough damage.
Report Post »mill
Posted on March 13, 2011 at 11:05amIt seems he Wisconsin way… if you are the minority of voters and don’t like what the majority has to say, bring in your thuggy Obama friends and protest, try to destroy what everyone else has built
Report Post »ChiefGeorge
Posted on March 13, 2011 at 11:05amWhy don’t they actually use the democratic system of government (that they love so much) afforded to them to right these heinous wrongs? Oh! Because they would lose that vote all over again and then some. These people found out a long time ago in this country that if you put just enough pressure on Government with this kind of staged event the government would then have a reason to roll over and give to the people what they want. Problem is they have been doing this for so long, the people now know they can vote themselves more money from the treasury. Someone said that once. Looks like we don’t teach history in this country or people would know better. But then again there are a lot of things they should know better. Stop stealing other peoples money and demanded it for yourselves.
Report Post »cartercupp
Posted on March 13, 2011 at 11:09amLook who’s finally marching
http://www.cartercupp.info/spend-spend-spend.html
Report Post »Dustyluv
Posted on March 13, 2011 at 11:16amRun away from your duty to represent the people then come back to a heroes welcome?..
Talk about SHAME!!!
Report Post »Non-sequitur
Posted on March 13, 2011 at 11:19amOf course the Demorats would march.
They have a right to protest.
They could care less about Democratic process or the Constitution.
Nothing they’re doing is against the Constitution or not part of the democratic process.
We see how they act in the face of something they don’t like…..they run and hide.
“Right to deny quorum”. It’s part of the law and part of the democratic process. Abe Lincoln jumped out of a second story window to deny quorum for crying out loud Also, how was that any different from the Republicans filibustering a while back?
Then come back and try to play they are the good guys.
How aren’t they? They stood up for what they believe in and tried to deny Walker from ramming through a bill that had the sole purpose of busting Unions.
Report Post »Bronco II
Posted on March 13, 2011 at 11:19amBecause when people listen to fools they become bigger fools then the fools they are listening too that is the only I can explain it but it is better said in the scriptures and that is where I got if from.And it makes perfect sense to me.
Report Post »Uncle Crusty
Posted on March 13, 2011 at 11:29amoh, the yellow dumbocrats are back now huh, LOL, too late peckerwoods, you’re losing the battles now, and you will lose the war, bank on it!
Report Post »hud
Posted on March 13, 2011 at 11:37amThey vote for them, because the districts are gerrymandered so that the lame and insane can run the state.
Report Post »ishka4me
Posted on March 13, 2011 at 11:48amsuch a partisan fraud, Connecticut with democrat house , senate and governor are proposing harsher cuts on state unions then Wisconsin. Not a peep from anybody in labor. I am sure this can be exploited to show the anti republican sentiment in wisconsin
Report Post »heavyduty
Posted on March 13, 2011 at 12:01pmBecause they are sheeple, they have no mind of their own. If they ever get a mind of their own, then the UNIONS come and threaten them into submission again. These Senators want to be re-elected again, so they will pander to their voters. But the Senators could care less about them otherwise.
Report Post »Hugh Williams
Posted on March 13, 2011 at 12:12pmIt is nice to see the Dem’s finally found their courage. They are so brave surrounded by thousands of union thugs!!!!!!
Report Post »TXPilot
Posted on March 13, 2011 at 12:17pmDon’t the police in Wisconsin have any rubber bullets to shoot at these idiots? Wish I could fail to show up at work for weeks and be considered a “hero”…..pfftt
Report Post »nothingbuthetruth
Posted on March 13, 2011 at 12:18pmwho cares, nobody is watching. This is the sound of democrat rule and corruption being taken out of the hands of the democrat elected officials.
Report Post »Buck Bagaw
Posted on March 13, 2011 at 12:18pm“Why do people vote for these fools?” It’s a phenomonon known as rectal magnetism.
Report Post »fedfreakingup
Posted on March 13, 2011 at 12:19pmWELFARE and KICKBACKS!!!!!!
Report Post »CatB
Posted on March 13, 2011 at 12:22pmI would LOVE to see photos of the garbage and destruction that these protesters leave behind … Is the TEA Party “expected” to clean up after them again? I don’t mind cleaning up after ourselves WHICH WE DO .. but cleaning up and paying up for these spoiled THUGS is getting old.
Report Post »Brained
Posted on March 13, 2011 at 12:24pmGovernment workers need to be privatized or their positions eliminated all together. Government should be boring, small and only for emergencies.
These people IMO are spoiled brats and losers.
Report Post »restorehope
Posted on March 13, 2011 at 12:28pmThe crowd was largely made up of sheep herded onto busses and brought into Wisconsin for the weekend. Those 14 slackers who fled their posts are not being applauded by any citizen with an ounce of brains in their heads. You should not get praised for walking away from your duty. Such misplaced approval will only encourage them to walk out again the next time a bill comes up that they don’t like. Their cowardly actions should go down in infamy. I respect them even less for coming back and arrogantly parading around the Capitol. They did not follow the rules of our government. They were elected to vote, not obstruct voting.
Report Post »suttonea76
Posted on March 13, 2011 at 12:39pmSo they can’t vote on an issue, but they can complain. That‘s the same as a regular voter complaining about an issue but won’t vote on it themselves. Democrats keep proving the rest of us conservatives right day after day that we are right and they are irrelevant. Funny how they meld into the crowd and don’t stick out as they are cowards and STILL GETTING PAID for NOT doing their job.
Report Post »butler180
Posted on March 13, 2011 at 1:17pmBecause they are paid to vote for them
Report Post »watchtheotherhand
Posted on March 13, 2011 at 1:44pmWhat we are seeing are desperate measures by desperate people because the finances, influence, and power unions have historically wielded in recent times is closely tied to the success and ability of left leaning politicians to get elected and then stay in power. This then feeds the incestuous relationship with kick backs and favored positions for union leadership in a sick symbiotic preservation of power that is completely self-serving for both parties. Of course the average Joe worker is caught in the middle of this exploitative situation, and when it is threatened they make a very nice and sincere “ready to arms” force that is all to willing to thwart its dismantling. All under the deception that the politicians and union leaders have an altruistic concern for their welfare and position in life. When will people wake up to their own exploitation and manipulation by those selling modern day “snake oil” in the reformed package of, “let me take care of you and look out for your welfare, just give me the authority to do it”? It is the power and money their positions provide for them that they care about ! Not other people.
Report Post »thegrassroots
Posted on March 13, 2011 at 2:18pmWisconsin’s population is about 5.7 million. “85,000 to 100,00 people – along with 50 tractors and one donkey” and 14 cowardly, runaway dem senators are NOT representative of the Good Folks of Wisconsin who voted Governor Walker and the Republican majority IN, and the dems OUT.
And, how many of those protestors are agitators, imported by obama and trumka?
They have “… vowed to focus on future elections …” Focus Away! Watch How Many Ways You’re All Kicked To The Curb!
The Only Thing that little handful of protestors and agitators represents is: That Deluded Dem Bubble They Are All Living In – That Little Habitrail Of Lockstep Liberal Lemmings.
Someone save that lone donkey, because that cute little guy and the 50 tractors won’t be able to stand up to The Rupublican Street Sweeper Scrubbing Washington, DC Clean In 2012.
Report Post »Kalish
Posted on March 13, 2011 at 2:30pmObama Bin Lying said :
Why do people still vote for these fools?
Because liberalism is a mental illness, they have been told so many lies for so long, that they do not know what truth is, they are brainwashed, I know, my parents were democrats, they were brainwashed, no matter what truth or fact I presented to them, they would just start with the knee jerk mantra (lies and hate) that their democrat politicians and liberal media brainwashed them with (oh I am not a republican by the way) As for these greedy labor union people, they should be treated like the anarchists they are, these people are despicable, they should be happy to have a half way decent job, there are plenty of non-union people that would love to have their jobs, but instead what do they do ? they protest to try and give themselves more, and try an derail the very people that are trying to balance the budget and save the state from bankruptcy, I wish we could fire all unions workers and get people in there that want to work
Report Post »The Third Archon
Posted on March 13, 2011 at 7:08pmMarching (petitioning the government for redress of grievances) is a constitutionally protected right, and something both sides do as part of advocacy–conservatives need to stop pretending they think its universally negative, because their actions say they think otherwise. So either stop protesting, marching, going to town hall meetings, and holding demonstrations, or stop complaining when the Left does it and criticize actual policy measures and proposals, preferably suggesting your own alternatives.
Report Post »CottonMPG
Posted on March 14, 2011 at 12:15amWhen a private company and the union meet to bargain that’s one thing. The owner or owners are involved in the process and it’s fair in a sense because they have a stake in the outcome. We as the taxpayers don’t get a say in union collective bargaining with government workers!! We are the owners. We are the ones footing the bill. We have a stake in the outcome but no voice! Therefore it is unfair when government workers’ unions bargain for increases in pay and benefits while we are stuck with the bill. If government workers are allowed to bargain for increases then we the tax payers should get to vote on whether to accept the terms or not!
Report Post »Mikeyyy
Posted on March 14, 2011 at 2:46amThe vote for them because like attracts like in this case. Everyone tends to aligns with the people that match up best with their political agenda. It’s pathetic the system we have, but it was it is.
Essentially they are sore losers, so now they are trying their best to recall and impeach. I call the Unions and the Wiscon returnees chicken shiz in my book.
Report Post »US_SOLDIER
Posted on March 14, 2011 at 7:02amAs perverted as this may seem, there is almost no company that is too small to become a target of a union, as long as there are at least two employees.
Even worse, adding to the already-lengthy trail of industrial carnage left by unions, American labor law gives today’s unions the right to destroy small companies under the guise of unionizing employees. This is particularly true in the construction industry where, all too often, unions and their unionized employers compete for work against non-union companies in a Darwinian death dance.
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Very often, because of their costly benefits and often-underfunded pension plans, union contractors fail to get the work while non-union contractors get the work. This leaves union tradesmen unemployed–sitting “on the bench.”
With less construction being done these days, the high rate of unemployment among construction unions has led many of them to target non-union contractors for the sole purpose of unionizing them in order to get the work. In other words, because they already have enough unemployed members, they don’t want the workers–they want their work.
One of the more insidious ways that unions are allowed to unionize companies is through the practice of “salting.” Salting is the union tactic of sending one or more union members into a non-union company for the sole purpose of unionizing the company from within.
A union salt’s job is to infiltrate, as well as to spy on the company and its employees, to report back to the union bosses, as well as agitate and unionize the workers. Then, once the job of unionizing the company is finished, the salt typically moves on—often to the next vulnerable company.
According to this IBEW website:
“Salting” is the deliberate act of getting a job at a specific workplace with the intent to organize a union. Most union campaigns start with a lone individual or small group of individuals with no union experience deciding to organize a union from scratch. Sometimes, a union campaign can be strengthened if you know of a friend with union organizing experience. By applying for open positions at your workplace, your friend can secretly help you organize your workplace. There are other circumstances where salting is used.
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* Salting is systematically placing our union members on nonunion job sites for the purpose of organizing.
* Salting is a federally protected activity that ensures the right to organize
* Salting is when a member keeps a daily log book
* Salting is when a member compiles a list of all ongoing job
* Salting is when a member compiles a list of all employees
* Salting is when a member listens to the concern of other employees
* Salting is when a member participates in concerted activities. i.e.: passing around a petition to better conditions on the job
* Salting is when a member polices unfair labor practices, wage and code violations
* Salting is when a member comes off the job when the organizing campaign is over
For more IBEW salting tactics, go here.
While the practice often happens to small companies here in the U.S., here is how “salting” affected one husband and wife who became the target of the IBEW in Canada.
Arc Electrical Ltd. is a small company run by a young couple from their home, where babies and bookkeeping occupy the president, Bridget Carey, better known as Mom.
It grew from nothing in 2007 to have six employees and total work in 2009 in the $600,000 range, led by Bridget’s husband Andy Nita, 36, also an instructor at Algonquin College.
The future looked bright.
The International Brotherhood of Electrical Workers, meanwhile, is the largest union of electricians in the world, with 725,000 members, and an Ottawa local with a high-profile membership drive underway.
In the fall of 2009, the IBEW tried to unionize the workers at Arc Electrical.
There is no other way to describe the outcome than a complete mess, so bad it was raised on the floor of the Ontario legislature.
To an outsider, it’s a story full of shocking twists and turns. “I was,” concludes Nita, “just blown away.”
To fast-forward to the end:
* The vote, after fits and starts, ended up deadlocked at 3-3, meaning the application failed, but not before it cost Arc about $60,000 in legal fees and substitute labour costs.
* The couple suspect Arc was “salted” by the IBEW, meaning a pro-union worker was directed there, with the express purpose of organizing the remaining staff.
* Because the three pro-union workers left shortly after the vote, Nita had to scramble to fulfill his contracts, working 18-hour days for about a month straight, with a pregnant wife at home.
* In their words, Arc has been “decimated” and is now down to Nita and a part-time apprentice.
* Battered by the experience, Nita decided to take a full-time job at Algonquin, rather than risk waging war with the IBEW again.
* The divisions over union membership are so deep that Nita says he’s been the target of veiled threats by IBEW members in his own classroom.
“It knocked us back right to the beginning,” said Nita. “We’ve lost two years of time invested.”
Read more of the Carey’s story here.
While unions here in the U.S. already win around two-thirds of the elections to unionize companies, Democrats in control of Congress have tried pass a law called the Employee Free Choice Act, which would effectively eliminate secret-ballot elections. If EFCA gets passed in Congress, President Obama has repeatedly said he would sign it into law.
Instead of trying to change the laws to make it easier for unions to use deceitful tactics like “salting,” perhaps its time to further look into unions and the dirty bag of tricks they use on workers and companies.
Until then, as unions work to put small, family-owned companies like the Carey’s out of business, instead of being “proud to be union,” they really should be ashamed of themselves.
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Report Post »bread and circuses
Posted on March 14, 2011 at 7:10amWalker and the WI representatives have been receiving death threats from the union folks.
Report Post »I will personally hold Trumpka of the AFL-CIO responsible for any harm that may come to them.
Look over your shoulder Trumpka !
HUGGINGMYBABIES
Posted on March 14, 2011 at 1:57pmYawn! You know when your mom used to nag and nag and yell and scream and before long you barely heard her anymore? Or when you first maybe moved to the city and the sirens and traffic kept you awake at nights? After time you didn’t even notice it? Pretty soon you couldn’t sleep if it was quiet? Well keep it up union freakanistas! I’m sleeping like a BAY-BAY!
Just got back from a nice quiet weekend in Chicago….We didn’t really brag about where we were from, but when asked it was funny to see the reaction was so positively “Walker”! Seems outside the bubble of the MSM and Madison proper, no one feels their “working” class pain…..maybe that‘s because we’re ALL working class.
Report Post »HUGGINGMYBABIES
Posted on March 14, 2011 at 2:02pmhttp://www.journaltimes.com/polls/html_e7df0506-44fc-11e0-b687-001cc4c002e0.html#pd_a_4647768%23pd_a_4647768%23pd_a_4647768
Here have a little fun with them. This is not scientific and you can vote as much as you want! LOL You know they will take the results and call them conclusive if they win!
Report Post »Notw1776
Posted on March 14, 2011 at 7:24pmOne blind man leading another.
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