Crime

Allen West Calls Trayvon Martin Shooting an ‘Outrage’ and Endorses Federal Investigation

Ever since his CPAC Keynote Address in 2010, Rep. Allen West (R-FL) has been one of the gold standards of modern American political conservatism. He has also been widely hailed as a political model for conservative African American politicians. And now, following recent revelations surrounding the highly suspicious shooting of Trayvon Martin, Rep. West has joined a growing bipartisan consensus calling for the case to be reopened, possibly even with Federal assistance. West’s statement, put out today by Talking Points Memo, resonates with controlled fury (emphasis added):

itself in Sanford, Florida involving the shooting of 17-year-old Treyvon Martin. First of all, if all that has been reported is accurate, the Sanford Police Chief should be relieved of his duties due to what appears to be a mishandling of this shooting in its early stages. The US Navy SEALS identified Osama Bin Laden within hours, while this young man laid on a morgue slab for three days. The shooter, Mr Zimmerman, should have been held in custody and certainly should not be walking free, still having a concealed weapons carry permit. From my reading, it seems this young man was pursued and there was no probable cause to engage him, certainly not pursue and shoot him….against the direction of the 911 responder. Let’s all be appalled at this instance not because of race, but because a young American man has lost his life, seemingly, for no reason.  I have signed a letter supporting a DOJ investigation. I am not heading to Sanford to shout and scream, because we need the responsible entities and agencies to handle this situation from this point without media bias or undue political influences. This is an outrage.

Similar sentiments were expressed yesterday in an op ed published yesterday by the author of the law between which George Zimmerman has tried to shield his actions – a defense that is becoming increasingly implausible-sounding. The author, Dennis Baxley, completely disowns Zimmerman’s actions:

As the prime sponsor of this legislation in the Florida House, I’d like to clarify that this law does not seem to be applicable to the tragedy that happened in Sanford. There is nothing in the castle doctrine as found in Florida statutes that authenticates or provides for the opportunity to pursue and confront individuals, it simply protects those who would be potential victims by allowing for force to be used in self-defense.[...]

Mr. Zimmerman’s unnecessary pursuit and confrontation of Trayvon Martin elevated the prospect of a violent episode and does not seem to be an act of self-defense as defined by the castle doctrine. There is no protection in the “Stand Your Ground” law for anyone who pursues and confronts people.

I have great sympathy for the family of Trayvon Martin and am grateful that things are finally moving in the right direction to further explore what actually happened on that night in Sanford, Florida. Awaiting the convening of the grand jury, I trust that justice will be served and healing will begin for all of those affected.

As of yet, there is no indicator that Zimmerman will be indicted or arrested for his actions, though the Martin family will be filing a wrongful death lawsuit against him. Unfortunately for all concerned, this case is far from resolved, and probably the full, painful story will not be known until the case has been fought in court.

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  • robert
    Posted on March 22, 2012 at 9:43pm

    “Extract your head from your butt there LTC West.:

    I agree. This has made me change my mind about this guy. Jumping to conclusions as he does makes him no better than the other hateful blacks who are doing the same. But I‘m glad he’s finally showing his true colors.

    I wonder why he’s not outraged by the literally THOUSANDS of black on white crimes that occur every year that are as despicable as despicable gets.

    Like this one, for instance:

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2117695/Brutal-home-invasion-Oklahoma-couple-ends-65-year-romance-meeting-blind-date.html

    Or hw about this one?

    http://www.bnd.com/2012/03/19/2106449/ofallon-teen-attacked-near-her.html

    Why no outcry over these.

    I could provide a minumm of 100 more such incidents that occurred in just the last month. Where’s the press? Where are all the outraged white do-gooder pansies?

    Where are you at when the reverse happens. Again. And again. And again. And again. And again. And again??????

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  • GoodStuff
    Posted on March 22, 2012 at 9:02pm

    Dear Allen,

    Why are you allowing the media the think for you? Why are you allowing the media to play you like a fiddle? Your “outrage” was created by an irresponsible media who is currently fueling the flames to this story without the facts. They are declaring a man guilty before a trial has even occurred.

    The media is responsible for this mob mentality. I’m looking at you Anderson Cooper and CNN.

    Shame on you Allen for taking the bait.

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  • ldaopines
    Posted on March 22, 2012 at 8:52pm

    Mob justice isn’t how America works. Where are black marchers when blacks shoot down innocent black children? Then what we see is a community refusal to cooperate with police investigators.

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    • Sleazy Hippo
      Posted on March 22, 2012 at 9:08pm

      The Colonel seems to be able to read Polls in Florida, where the unholy mobs are demanding we back off and STOP Standing Our God-Given Ground!

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    • CatB
      Posted on March 22, 2012 at 9:25pm

      This young man might still be alive if the black community stood up to the armed thugs in hoodies .. instead they make excuses for the criminals.

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    • Baikonur
      Posted on March 22, 2012 at 9:40pm

      @CatB
      Posted on March 22, 2012 at 9:25pm
      ‘This young man might still be alive if the black community…’
      ***********
      Yes, it is the fault of the black community that an unarmed young man was gunned down.

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    • JACKTHETOAD
      Posted on March 22, 2012 at 10:09pm

      Are you sure it wasn’t the Scotch-Irish community that didn’t gun them down? Pay no attention to BAIKONOUR, folks. He’s a bigoted racist, the world has passed hin by, and there‘s ’no place left in the sun’ for those of his kind.

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    • JACKTHETOAD
      Posted on March 22, 2012 at 10:27pm

      Aye, and if yer done playin’ with yerself, ye can play me pipes.

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  • FreedomPurveyor
    Posted on March 22, 2012 at 8:47pm

    There is absolutely nothing wrong with an investigation.

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    • GoodStuff
      Posted on March 22, 2012 at 8:58pm

      If it’s being led by Eric “my people” Holder, then yes, there is something wrong with an investigation.

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  • Baikonur
    Posted on March 22, 2012 at 8:35pm

    Too yummy. Now the soldier with a shady war record, a not very bright or temperate man, an irritable mysogynist, Allen West who all of you were salivating to run as VP a moment ago is bad because he thinks outright murder of an unarmed teenager for being black is unfair in the 21st century?

    LOL, red.n*ecks–your time is loooooong gone!

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    • Harley2002
      Posted on March 22, 2012 at 8:40pm

      To Yummy? Ummmm you are from San Fran right? To Yummy? What a dweeb you are.

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    • Harley2002
      Posted on March 22, 2012 at 8:43pm

      Yummy isn’t that what you say after you service your boyfriend?

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    • JACKTHETOAD
      Posted on March 22, 2012 at 10:22pm

      BAIKEY, I understand how you feel, being a ‘subject’ and everything, but we’re citizens here. We don’t need a limey to tell us how to run our affairs, or point out our shortcomings. If you stood up to your tyrannical monarchy, you’d still have your guns. BTW, did Her Majesty take the guns away from the criminals across the pond, too? I think not. Especially the Scotch and the Irish, right bigot?

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    • Exrepublisheep
      Posted on March 22, 2012 at 11:51pm

      @JACKTHETOAD. Scotts, not Scotch.

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    • JACKTHETOAD
      Posted on March 23, 2012 at 12:40am

      Thanx, EXREPUB.

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  • OlefromMN
    Posted on March 22, 2012 at 8:28pm

    Liberal_Teacher,

    How so? If a crime was committed, a crime was committed. What somebody said regarding race is irrelevant. Many African-American thugs say some very racial things about their own race in the process of a crime. As do all other races. This is being used as a tool by the leftist media and needs to be refocused on the issue at hand. Was a crime committed?

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  • sawbuck
    Posted on March 22, 2012 at 8:28pm

    I have a sneaky suspicion we are about to be introduce to a new bill in the coming months ,
    that will have a eerier resemblance…To the “BRADY BILL”
    Never let a crisis go to waste… !

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    • Baikonur
      Posted on March 22, 2012 at 8:41pm

      Every single week there are stories in the US media about someone accidentally shooting an innocent young woman in the neck in a church, or a kid killing their little brother in their own home by accident, or a crazy person shooting their family or classmates, or a nine-year old sheriff’s son allowed to shoot an automatic weapon and instead shooting himself in the face in public at a gun show.

      This occurs ONLY because of unrestricted gun access. Tens of thousands of innocent lives are lost each year in America because of accidents, or mental illness, or someone being drunk and angry and there being a gun in the house. This is one of the main reasons why our violent death rates are so many times (! times means hundreds of percent) higher than that of Spain, France, Italy, Germany, and Switzerland.

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    • sawbuck
      Posted on March 22, 2012 at 9:13pm

      Baikonur
      So…
      What your saying is you rather be stabbed about 30 times or
      BLUDGEONED to death with a brick…
      Having your brains bashed in all over the place.
      Like in …of Spain, France, Italy, Germany, and Switzerland.
      instead of being shot…OR ..How about HACKED to death.
      like what happened in ..RAWANDA ..Home of the machete …!
      Or Greece busting off pieces of buildings to use as weapons..
      But at least the people in charge will be safe ..!
      They never kill INNOCENT people.. Do they?
      They have REAL weapons (GUNS)..
      Just make MORE laws ..that will fix….everything.
      Oh that’s right …
      That’s what the Second Amendment was ..
      NOT FOR HUNTING.. BUT …FOR DEFENSE AGAINST TYANNY.!!!
      That I’m willing to bet …my last breath.. Is just around the corner …!

      Moron

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    • hidden_lion
      Posted on March 22, 2012 at 9:14pm

      Baikonur-
      Your facts are screwy. More people die each year falling then are killed by firearms. How about car accidents? Bad people do bad things no matter what the law is, that is why they are bad people. Stay unarmed if you wish, but you will always be at the mercy to those who are armed. It is every American’s civic duty to be armed and trained in the use of arms.

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    • Baikonur
      Posted on March 22, 2012 at 9:42pm

      @sawbuck
      ‘you rather be stabbed about 30 times or
      BLUDGEONED to death with a brick…
      Having your brains bashed in all over the place.
      Like in …of Spain, France, Italy, Germany, and Switzerland.’
      **************
      Lol–yes, day after day we are bludgeoned in Spain, France, Italy, Germany, and Switzerland. With bricks.

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    • JACKTHETOAD
      Posted on March 22, 2012 at 10:02pm

      Sniff…sniff… is that the stench of Beefeater and limes I smell?

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    • colt1860
      Posted on March 22, 2012 at 10:36pm

      “In 1976, Washington, D.C., instituted one of the strictest gun-control laws in the country. The murder rate since that time has risen 134 percent (77.8 per 100,000 population) while the overall rate for the country has declined 2 percent. [Crime went down 30% in one year, after the Heller SCOTUS decision] Washington, D.C., politicians find it easy to blame Virginia’s less-stringent gun laws for the D.C. murder rate. Yet Virginia Beach, Virginia’s largest city with almost 400,000 residents, has had one of the lowest rates of murder in the country — 4.1 per 100,000…

      Vermont has the least restrictive gun-control law. It recognizes the right of any Vermonter who has not otherwise been prohibited from owning a firearm to carry concealed weapons without a permit or license. Yet Vermont has one of the lowest crime rates in America, ranking 49 out of 50 in all crimes and 47th in murders.

      States which have passed concealed-carry laws have seen their murder rate fall by 8.5 percent, rapes by 5 percent, aggravated assaults by 7 percent and robbery by 3 percent.

      Texas is a good example. In the early 1990s, Texas’s serious crime rate was 38 percent above the national average. Since then, serious crime in Texas has dropped 50 percent faster than for the nation as a whole. All this happened after passage of a concealed-carry law in 1994.”

      http://www.fff.org/freedom/fd0210e.asp

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    • colt1860
      Posted on March 22, 2012 at 10:44pm

      “Twice as many children are killed playing football in school than are murdered by guns. That’s right. Despite what media coverage might seem to indicate, there are more deaths related to high school football than guns. In a recent three year period, twice as many football players died from hits to the head, heat stroke, etc. as compared with students who were murdered by firearms (22) during that same time period.”

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    • MAProg
      Posted on March 23, 2012 at 12:07am

      I love when gun advocates use Vermont as an example of how no gun laws necessarily leads to low crime. It fails to consider how sparsely populated the state is and how rural it is. Sure, if you live in Vermont or Montana, I‘m pretty sure you don’t need restrictive gun laws. Chances are you live in the wilderness anyways. If you live in Massachusetts, with has 12 times the population, living in mostly urban areas, the equation changes.

      Massachusetts, btw, has a lower incidence of firearms related deaths than Vermont: both of which have a lower rate than Texas.Come to think of it, ironically, most of those liberal Northeastern states have lower rates than Texas, or most other “gun friendly” states, for that matter.

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    • AxelPhantom
      Posted on March 23, 2012 at 1:06am

      Maprog,

      You don’t like Vermont as an example and yet you use Illinois with the whopping population of 12-13 million and compare it to Texas which has over 25 million not counting the illegals. Follow your own rules.

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    • colt1860
      Posted on March 23, 2012 at 7:11pm

      “Massachusetts, btw, has a lower incidence of firearms related deaths than Vermont: both of which have a lower rate than Texas.Come to think of it, ironically, most of those liberal Northeastern states have lower rates than Texas, or most other “gun friendly” states, for that matter.”

      That doesn’t mean jack squat. Massachusetts still has way more crime than Vermont. While firearm incidents may go down, for lack of guns, crime is still up. Criminals will use whatever weapon or instrument available, if they can’t use guns. Getting rid of guns does not lower crime. The liberals yet, once again, fail to realize that a lack of religion, morality and education is what largely causes crime, immorality and violence to prosper.

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  • TeaPartyForRomney
    Posted on March 22, 2012 at 8:28pm

    WHAT IN THE WORLD IS SANTORUM THINKING, I LIKED THE DUDE, BUT AFTER THIS HE WENT TOO FAR, GINGRICH AGREED.

    Santorum today said that Obama may be better elected than Romney… is he crazy? How can anyone listen to him after that. If Obama gets in, no matter what ObamaCare stays, even if we have the Senate and House. Dodd-Frank stays, and every radical executive order he wants to pass. I agree with Jim Demint, it is time for Santorum to drop out… he is getting way to angry and now I question his ultimate goal in this election. Here is his speech: http://www.thedailycandidate.com/video/2012/mar/santorum_better_obama.html

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  • cemerius
    Posted on March 22, 2012 at 8:23pm

    CAREFUL Allen you are showing your bias!!! Let’s let the courts decide and NOT the local Cops!!! The “shooter” isn’t going anywhere but of course, EVERY idiot is weighing their two cents!!! Is this Allen’s “they acted stupidly moment”???

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    • Chuck Stein
      Posted on March 22, 2012 at 8:35pm

      It is clear that the local authorities have bungled this. Federal involvement should be considered — especially when it involves the possible unlawfull killing of a black man in the South. The 14th Amendment and Civl Rights laws are often applied in a grotesque fashion, but this is the sort of situation that they are properly designed to address.

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    • cemerius
      Posted on March 22, 2012 at 8:56pm

      Chuck, I would say this is NOT a “civil right’s” moment either….it’s a possible homicide and should be treated THAT way. All crime in my opinion is hate and their are non caveat laws on the books that can handle that.

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  • junior1971
    Posted on March 22, 2012 at 8:22pm

    This man is a man that can lead these people away from chaos and in the direction of intelligent, due process. He should stand eye to eye with all of his people that are advocating violent revenge for this child. He should be in louis’ face, denouncing his agitating words while advocating for peaceful resolve. We need to unify if we are going to sink their ship that has already sailed!

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    • RebelYell1862
      Posted on March 22, 2012 at 8:32pm

      @JUNIOR1971 I bet your family was at the gates of Paris cheering while the germans marched in. We can all get along can’t we? If i kiss your ass enough you‘ll like me won’t you? Sheep to the slaughter.

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    • whywonder
      Posted on March 22, 2012 at 8:40pm

      Rebelyell
      So you support what zimmerman did? After 911 told him not to pursue? Or was it ok with you because the kid was black?

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    • MAProg
      Posted on March 23, 2012 at 12:13am

      @Rebel: cheered as the Germans marched into Paris? Let’s take a look at those numbers. Battle of France: 360 Allied dead or wounded. French casualties: 85,310 killed, 12,000 missing, 120,000 wounded. That doesn’t sound like “surender monkeys” to me. To me, it sounds like they fought and died for thier country and didn’t have the benefit of 3000 miles of ocean between them and Germany. Of course, this doesn’t even mention the valuable contribution of the French underground to the Allied war effort.

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    • MAProg
      Posted on March 23, 2012 at 12:16am

      Type: 360K Allied dead or wounded total.

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  • RebelYell1862
    Posted on March 22, 2012 at 8:19pm

    All you people who kept saying “oh, he’s so wonderful, he should be V.P, and oh, he’s not like the liberal blacks”. I just sat back and waited. KIND SIDES WITH KIND.

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    • cemerius
      Posted on March 22, 2012 at 8:27pm

      I like him still, but, this issue is showing some bias indeed…..I really like how he gives Debbie Blabbermouth Shultz heartburn!!

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    • whywonder
      Posted on March 22, 2012 at 8:45pm

      Rebelyell
      You are a racist, i think that is clear. “kind sides with kind” what is your side? Are you american or on some other side?

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    • Mavros
      Posted on March 22, 2012 at 8:54pm

      Zimmerman broke the law (Stand Your Ground Law) when he chased the kid. Any responsible gun owner should know their laws. Apparently, Zimmerman didn’t. Now all of the Leftys are going to use this to gut that law. You‘ll want West knee deep in this case when they attack it because he’ll be one the people fighting for the 2nd. If you want to point fingers, point at Zimmerman. He’s the Jackass here. He’s the one who broke the law and murdered a 17 yr old and is putting your gun rights at risk.
      West isn’t doing this for racial reasons, he’s there because Zimmerman broke the law in one of the most controversial cases of our time. It’s far from over.

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    • RebelYell1862
      Posted on March 22, 2012 at 10:06pm

      @WHYWONDER Not racist just realistic. I’ve seen enough of these “poor children” commit heinous crimes to condemn Mr. Zimmerman prematurely like you are. Are you predjudice against Latinos A-hole?

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    • rawmilker
      Posted on March 23, 2012 at 12:45am

      It’s Billy Idol!

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    • bigspike
      Posted on March 23, 2012 at 6:43am

      if siding with the innocent victim of murder is enough to turn you away, then turn away, you IDIOT-the ‘reactionary right’, in making Barney Fife Zimmerman their darling, is going to reap the whirlwind…i though only the Left was that stupid

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  • Liberal_Teacher
    Posted on March 22, 2012 at 8:18pm

    The race of the shooter is irrelevant. The fact that he used a racial slur to describe Martin is NOT irrelevant.

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  • Apple Bite
    Posted on March 22, 2012 at 8:13pm

    I don’t care how you feel about him, Allen West is one of the most upstanding politicians out here today. And at the very least, he’ll tell you where he stands. No hymn and hawing, and answering straight questions with a hidden agenda.

    The Chief of Police temporary stepped down over this incident, it was certainly mishandled. They should have taken Zimmerman into custody. But these idiots looking to demonize armed citizens and gun rights have no clue how bad it’s going to get when gun rights are stripped from every day citizens. If they thought the crime rate is bad now, just wait when the crimminals find out they’re no longer armed to protect themselves. And being stuck on stupid, they’ll beg to strip more rights away, not realizing the problems isn’t gun rights, it’s the folk that continue to slide pass in the system of background checking and ignoring the laws themselves.

    Oh yeah, It‘s Bush’s fault. =P

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    • AxelPhantom
      Posted on March 22, 2012 at 8:53pm

      The 10 people killed in Chicago (including a 6 year old girl playing in her yard) with an additional 40 injured in one night is a perfect example of the gun free utopia the liberals want.

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    • MAProg
      Posted on March 23, 2012 at 12:22am

      @Axel, yet Illinois still has a lower rate of gun related deaths than Texas or any other Southern state.

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    • AxelPhantom
      Posted on March 23, 2012 at 12:59am

      Texas has a population (25m) double that of Illinois (12m).

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    • Mateytwo Barreett
      Posted on March 23, 2012 at 2:23pm

      @maprog
      Best remeber one thing! Holder didn’t slide a couple thousand guns into Ontario.

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  • lexington_green
    Posted on March 22, 2012 at 8:03pm

    looks like the spin on this situation will turn any case of “self defense” on the part of a white person into a possible hate crime.

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    • OlefromMN
      Posted on March 22, 2012 at 8:09pm

      Where was the “white person” in this case?

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    • USAMEDIC3008
      Posted on March 22, 2012 at 8:10pm

      I agree with Sgt. Joe Friday
      stay the he!! out of it till all the facts are in

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    • cemerius
      Posted on March 22, 2012 at 8:25pm

      USAMEDIC…..Doc, you always come up with the true words of wisdom!! I agree 100% with you!!! People grabbing ropes and torches because of what the MSM is reporting! Let the courts decide!

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    • hidden_lion
      Posted on March 22, 2012 at 9:21pm

      it isn’t self defense when you chase someone down and initiate hostilities. There is absolutely no reason for this guy to have done what he did. He called 911 to report what he thought was suspicious, that should have been the end of it. He is a tool, and will go to jail for his crime. Has nothing to do with his race or the boy’s.

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  • momprayn
    Posted on March 22, 2012 at 8:01pm

    Well, I guess I‘m with those that don’t think West should have called in the DOJ – not just b/c it’s a state issue, etc., but b/c the DOJ is CORRUPT – Holder and crew are HIGHLY racist and they are liars and traitors in cahoots with Obama & friends. Remember the refusal to do anything about the Balck Panther people intimidating people at the voting places? West is playing right into their hopes and plans — they want to use the “race card” issue to further divide and bring chaos to help Obama. These are gifts to them to use for Obama’a benefit….also the media will try to promote it for the same reasons. That’s not to say if it is as it sounds on the surface, surely the shooter should be prosecuted and it was a horrible tragedy. But no, don’t call in the Feds – especially THESE !!!!!!

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    • cemerius
      Posted on March 22, 2012 at 8:26pm

      The “natives” are going to be fed a “white soul” or they will riot? Eric will gladly crucify someone for this…..Local/State matter…..

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    • Tom K
      Posted on March 23, 2012 at 3:46pm

      @ MOMPRAYN: Can you imagine U.S. Rep. Allen West at a press conferrence: I am proud to announce that the Governor’s Office has ordered the appointment of a special prosecutor in the Zimmerman case and the Florida Department of Law Enforcement will be spearheading the investigation. A Grand Jury will be conveined to assure that justice is served. We are reluctant to involve the U.S. Department of Justice due to their sorry ass record during the present and soon to be outgoing administration of President Obama. Thank you Ladies and Gentlemen.

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  • OlefromMN
    Posted on March 22, 2012 at 8:00pm

    The “shooter” was Hispanic. Don’t let the media cloud the situation. Race is irrelevant.

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  • AffirmationChick
    Posted on March 22, 2012 at 7:57pm

    I know I could easily go find another article about this incident (which I will), but I feel like this one is in sore need of some expansion summarizing the situation and the people involved. As a former journalist, I would have done as much to make sure the article could stand alone.

    Having gone and read the earlier article, I agree with the other commenters concerned about Rep. West calling for a *federal* investigation, which is sad because I’m a big fan of his and think (thought?) he would make a good VP candidate (unlike Sen. Rubio, whose eligibility to be president is questionable).

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  • ALOHA-SNACKBAR
    Posted on March 22, 2012 at 7:47pm

    Pursuing and confronting, in my book is so far from “standing your ground” its pathetic. There is no way this falls under the laws guidelines. Zimmerman was told by the dispatcher “NOT TO FOLLOW” the suspect, following is not standing, someone needs to tell the detectives the true meaning of STANDING YOUR GROUND. Zimmerman is going to prison.

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  • OlefromMN
    Posted on March 22, 2012 at 7:46pm

    I am sympathetic to all parties involved. But I have a larger question for Rep. West…

    Isn’t this a state issue? We need to be careful of overreach by the federal government.

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  • TRILO
    Posted on March 22, 2012 at 7:46pm

    NO, Mr West IS NOT the gold standard of the conservative movement. He has continuously voted for big and intrusive government. NDAA ring a bell? Budget deal ring another bell? Look at his voting record. Now he calls for a federal investigation into a local matter. As horrible as this case is and the needless death of a young man has occured, the federal government does not have jurisdiction. If the local police can not handle the investigation then they should turn it over to the state police. Once again a republican who calls himself a conservative calls for more federal overreach.

    Sheeple…. Wake up. Just because he has a forceful presence when he speaks does not make him a conservative. Mr West, while he may at one time have been a conservative, once he arrived in Washington he was co-opted by the “party” and has lost his independant conservative values.

    I pray for the soul of the young man who lost his life and I hope that his family will find peace. I will also pray that justice is well served.

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  • cykonas
    Posted on March 22, 2012 at 7:40pm

    The facts in this case, at least those that I’ve seen and heard are fuzzy at best at this point. Rep. West is correct to call for a vigorous investigation. I’m not sure why he favors Federal involvement. I can only conclude that he has some reason to distrust that local authorities are not willing/able/capable of conducting a fair investigation. He would know the back story of this towns Police must better than I, so I will defer to his judgement.

    If the true story unfolds as it appears on the surface we that love and cherish the second amendment should be scared. Men like Zimmerman will hurt our cause in the long run. They will give the antigun kooks just that more reason to push forward their insidious agenda against our 2nd amendment rights.

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  • LameLiberals
    Posted on March 22, 2012 at 7:39pm

    West also called the tea party crazy.
    West also voted for giving black farmers reparations.
    West also voted for the Patriot Act and that NDAA which are both anti-constitutional

    West is so two-faced. He definitely learned that being an Army officer.

    Now this. If the teen was white and the shooter black, – West would not say a word.

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    • cykonas
      Posted on March 22, 2012 at 7:51pm

      Your first three lines which concerns Rep. West’s voting record have nothing to do with this story. Your fourth line is nothing but a gratuitous assertion. Your fifth line shows your true weakness though. It’s all about race for you, and btw how do you know what Rep. West would say if the races in this story were reversed?

      The issue is the warranted/unwarranted use of lethal force. If the story truly unfolds as the incomplete we’ve seen so far would indicate this Zimmerman should spend the remainder of his years in prison.

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    • wethecrazypeople
      Posted on March 22, 2012 at 8:25pm

      @LAMELIBERALS

      “Now this. If the teen was white and the shooter black, – West would not say a word.”

      West wouldn’t say a word because if this were the case, the black shooter would have been in prison a month ago

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    • SetUStrait
      Posted on March 22, 2012 at 8:34pm

      Go ahead and say it lameliberals call him what you want to call him. You know the word that zimmerman called Trayvon. I love it. That’s what that sellout deserves. Him and herman cain. Youre right to turn on him like the black community has always told him you guys would. That’s good for his ass! Thank you for proving us right. We tried to tell him that the hateful nasty republicans party is no place for a real black person. See he never believed it when we tried to tell people like him that you guys would easily justify his son being shot. I absolutely love that you are saying this about him. He has nowhere to go now. The black community should spit in his face too. Just like you want to do. Say it man say it….confirm what we’ve always told sellouts like him about what republicans really think about him and his family. Thank you. That’s what needs to happen to him cain and watts…say the word man say it.. you know you want to call him that word….your definitely thinkin it! Hey you clown allen west, WE TOLD YOU SO!!!

       
    • SetUStrait
      Posted on March 22, 2012 at 8:56pm

      Yes lameliberals say it go ahead call him that word… I know it’s on the tip of your tongue. I love it. See clown sellouts like allen west, herman cain and jc watts don’t believe the black community when they tell them that the nasty racist republican party is no place for a real black man. But you are proving it. That’s what he and these other sambo sellouts deserve from you… Let them have it, I Love it! See… they didn’t realize you guys would easily justify any of their sons being shot for no reason. These three clownish fools deserve for you guys to show them your true colors… Its music to my ears to hear you turning on these sellout clowns. Theres no place for them now… So cmon man call him what you want to call him.. You know the same thing zimmerman called Trayvon Martin…? Say it man, say it man…go ahead and fulfill the prophecy they were warned about but ignored and sold out anyway!! All I have to say to Uncles Tom west, Tom cain and Tom watts is, WE TOLD YOU SO!! They hate you as much as they hate our Great President Barack Obama!! Haha…Lol…!!

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  • go2gym
    Posted on March 22, 2012 at 7:38pm

    West is correct. Of course it should be looked into further. Farrakhan, on the other hand, saw Martin’s color, and Zimmerman’s color, and only then does he have any interest.

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    • bigspike
      Posted on March 23, 2012 at 6:45am

      correct on both parts! of course, Calypso Louie DOES have ‘special insight’ into this type of crime; having been a participant in the murder of Malcom X

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  • abbygirl1994
    Posted on March 22, 2012 at 7:32pm

    Thank you Mr. West… I to think this is an outrage! God Bless You!

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    • RepubliCorp
      Posted on March 22, 2012 at 8:27pm

      I live in Florida, not that far from where this happened. And this doesn’t pass the smell test. West is right this is outrageous ……

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    • kegbuna
      Posted on March 22, 2012 at 8:55pm

      RebelYell: the epitome of right-wing, backwards-thinking. It seems like your thought only comes from your emotions, and those emotions seem to only be fear and anger.

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  • Rob
    Posted on March 22, 2012 at 7:29pm

    Figures it was only a matter of time until the black West showed his true color.

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    • mohavegreen
      Posted on March 22, 2012 at 7:35pm

      You would think the killings in Chicago last week would need an investigation lot more than the tables turned on a “hoody”.

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    • justangry
      Posted on March 22, 2012 at 7:41pm

      It has nothing to do with him being black, it has everything to do with him thinking the federal government is the answer. He’s shown his hand. He’s not the guy who sounds so wonderful when he speaks. Actually, I’ve seen one site saying this tea party darling was a moderate Republican. He was a patriot who served his country well in the military, then Washington corrupted him like McCain.

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    • therealconservative
      Posted on March 22, 2012 at 7:49pm

      I see. Just came from your Klan meeting, RIGHT

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    • Robert-CA
      Posted on March 22, 2012 at 8:04pm

      @ ROB

      I’m with Mr West on this one & I’m white .

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    • LOTO
      Posted on March 22, 2012 at 8:30pm

      Bingo! Thats how to win the election. Call a Clan meeting on election day and all the Democrats will choose the Clan meeting and forget to vote.

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    • RepubliCorp
      Posted on March 22, 2012 at 8:32pm

      JUSTANGRY Like all Paulbots you hate conservatives. And he was right about Dr Ron being a Kook.

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    • SetUStrait
      Posted on March 22, 2012 at 9:04pm

      Hey Rob, I’ll leave you the same reply as I did for lameliberals…Just say it go ahead call him that word… I know it’s on the tip of your tongue. I love it. See clown sellouts like allen west, herman cain and jc watts don’t believe the black community when they tell them that the nasty racist republican party is no place for a real black man. But you are proving it. That’s what he and these other sambo sellouts deserve from you… Let them have it, I Love it! See… they didn’t realize you guys would easily justify any of their sons being shot for no reason. These three clownish fools deserve for you guys to show them your true colors… Its music to my ears to hear you turning on these sellout clowns. Theres no place for them now… So cmon man call him what you want to call him.. You know the same thing zimmerman called Trayvon Martin…? Say it man, say it man…go ahead and fulfill the prophecy they were warned about but ignored and sold out anyway!! All I have to say to Uncles Tom west, Tom cain and Tom watts is, WE TOLD YOU SO!! They hate you as much as they hate our Great President Barack Obama!! Haha…Lol…!!

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    • justangry
      Posted on March 22, 2012 at 9:06pm

      Yawn troll

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    • Charles
      Posted on March 22, 2012 at 9:19pm

      An investigation needs to be done for sure but the biggest story here is the way the news media is fanning the flames to pit blacks against whites. This guy was Hispanic but close enough for the news media which takes every chance it can to encourage blacks to hate whites and when whites are victimized by blacks they look the other way. It’s like the news media has the devil in their heads. Its been going on for a good 30 years.

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    • SetUStrait
      Posted on March 22, 2012 at 9:19pm

      But LOTO the republican party is the klan…Duh….!! The tea party are like skin heads…..!! Poor romney, you guys dont think he‘s hateful enough so you’re putting him through the ringer….When hate and racism is your whole political platform….the klan and all the new hate groups should put you guys over the top….romney probably needs to go bald, grow a goatee, get some tattoos and move into a trailer park…

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    • hidden_lion
      Posted on March 22, 2012 at 9:31pm

      Chicago‘s killings are Chicago’s problem. West is only stepping in to comment because the local police force failed to do their duty and properly handle the investigation. Incompetence or racist or whatever the reason, they failed to do the job. I think the State level police force should handle it before the feds are called in. Regardless, this guy should be detained (even if for his own safety) until the investigation is conducted.

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    • Robert-CA
      Posted on March 22, 2012 at 11:51pm

      @ SETUSTRAIT .

      Obama great president ??????????
      LOL .
      LOL
      LOL
      LOL

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    • SetUStrait
      Posted on March 23, 2012 at 1:23am

      hey justangry…you sound angry. Must have hit a nerve….?!? Ha….!

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    • justangry
      Posted on March 23, 2012 at 9:40am

      My comment was directed at Repuplicorp because all he does here is bash Dr. Paul. I didn’t read your original post until now. And since you called me out… You‘re pretty high on yourselve thinking I’d even respond to your drivel. I think justice wasn’t served in this case, and it needs to be corrected, however I think it needs to be corrected at the State level. I‘m really bent out of shape about Allen West becaue his actions don’t match his rhetoric. It hurts more when you have such a high regard for him before you find out he’s just another Washington shill. Not because of the color of this skin, but because he’s a fellow veteran, which I hold in HIGH regard. When one of my brothers in arms abandons their oath to defend the constitution, I feel betrayed, more than I would if a civilian does it.

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    • Walkabout
      Posted on March 23, 2012 at 11:07am

      Rob
      My kid wears a hoodie. He is not black. I would hate to see a neighborhood watch guy shoot him just because he was walking through a neighborhood or cutting across a yard.

      mohavegreen: The kid might have simply been walking through a neighborhood from point A to point B & nothing more.

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