Allen West: Ron Paul ‘Not the Kind of Guy You Need to Be Sitting at 1600 Pennsylvania Ave’
- Posted on August 14, 2011 at 1:10pm by
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Ron Paul probably shouldn’t expect a presidential endorsement from Florida Rep. Allen West.
The Republican congressman had some strong words for the candidate Saturday, two days after Paul suggested during Thursday’s GOP debate that Iran be allowed to develop a nuclear weapon because so many other countries already have them.
Speaking at a Tea Party event in Fort Lauderdale, West said he was deeply concerned about U.S. foreign policy, and particularly the threat Iran poses to the rest of the world.
“Let me be very honest. When I was listening to the debate Thursday night and a certain candidate for president stood there and said he didn’t see any problem with Iran getting a nuclear device because everybody else has one — I have to tell you, that’s not the kind of guy you need to be sitting at 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue,” West said to applause.
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calebgs83
Posted on August 14, 2011 at 1:34pmAmerica should NOT have military bases around the world. America should NOT be the worlds policeman. America should NOT be doling out financial aid to foreign regimes. America should NOT be nation-building throughout the middle east. However, Islam IS evil and dangerous and Paul does not understand that.
Report Post »escape_from_socialism
Posted on August 14, 2011 at 1:40pmAnother example Mr. West works for military industrial complex.
Report Post »Iran is greater treat to Israel then to us, but I don’t hear Israel calling for war with Iran.
DarkFire
Posted on August 14, 2011 at 1:43pmRon Paul = Ross Perot …………………. and ol’ Ross said ” i’m a little crazy “
Report Post »normbal
Posted on August 14, 2011 at 1:43pmKind of a dichotomy there, but thats the world, the real world, in which we live.
Ideally? Sure, bring ALL our troops home. WTF are we doing stationing soldiers in Germany and Korea and policing Afghan borders when ours are so porous? On that I agree with Dr. Paul.
But “allowing” Iran to develop nuclear weapons and the missile systems to deliver them? While much of that nation’s leadership – islamic, sharia-led leadership – has said they WILL use these weapons against zionists, and the west, etc. (Look it up, don’t deny it, it’s not arguable). THAT is the reality Dr. Paul would like to avoid and in this, Mr. West is correct.
The fact that others have them isn’t rationale for ignoring the threats, no, the promise, of using them.
Report Post »AnAppealToGod
Posted on August 14, 2011 at 1:47pmRon Paul has some great ideas but he is too isolationist for our country right now. The world that Paul speaks of would be a great one, but it is non existent at this point.
Report Post »ProbIemSoIver
Posted on August 14, 2011 at 1:50pm@NORMBAL Who ever said we had the Authority to “let’ a sovereign Nation do something ? I will give you all the time in the world to answer that question. Quit the UN and let them Police Iran !!!!!
Report Post »Pontiac
Posted on August 14, 2011 at 1:52pm-Soviet Union, generally Atheist, didn’t want to hasten their death, just wanted to stay in power.
Report Post »-Iran, Muslim, general belief of the leadership is that they will be rewarded in heaven if they start a nuclear war with infidels. This is something Ron Paul doesn’t seem to understand. Fiscally he’s right on pretty much everything, foreign policy, not so much.
Red Meat
Posted on August 14, 2011 at 1:54pmI’m still waiting for West to introduce some conservative legislation. Until then, he can eff off.
Report Post »right-wing-waco
Posted on August 14, 2011 at 1:54pmPart of the reason we have bases around the world is to be ready in case we are attacked. Example: If attacked we have equipment in many countries and bases in the USA so that we 1) Don’t have to transport everything so far. 2) No enemy can take out everything easily like the aircraft “lined up” at Pearl Harbor in Dec 1941. (Easy targets)
I do believe that we should get out of other countries affairs while being mindful of what is going on. “Trust & verify”.
Report Post »boats48
Posted on August 14, 2011 at 1:58pmBack in the 1930′s that sentiment was known as “isolationism.” We had a lot of people who believe that and what we got for it were two guys named Hitler & Tojo and a little war that involved every advanced nation on the planet. Do you honestly believe that if Iran develops a nuke and the capacity to miniaturize it that they won’t use it? Ron Paul is “right on” when it comes to domestic policy & programs, but he needs a huge influx of reality in his foreign policy thinking!
Report Post »martinez012577
Posted on August 14, 2011 at 1:58pmYou are correct islam is pure evil. Bring our troops home, build our our intellgence and recon. All of the islamic countries combined dont stand a chance against us. China’s one aircraft carrier doesnt stand a chance against us. WE are the only real super power, our enemy is ourselves. Our navy power can put us anywhere in the world practically. With better intel we can make sure our navy is in position.
In no way is this backing out on our allies. We make it known, if you attack us we will completely destroy you and we will not rebuild you. Make it also known attacking our allies, we will support and give them the proper help.
Report Post »Roberto G. Vasquez
Posted on August 14, 2011 at 1:58pmI happen to be a Libertarian with regard to most things. However, Ron Paul is stuck way back in the 1830′s when it comes to national defense. Now days with nuclear attacks from any part of the world only minutes away it is just plain crazy to ignore obvious threats like Iran. I agree with West, Ron Paul has no business being in charge of our military. And neither does Obama.
Report Post »IntegrityFirst08
Posted on August 14, 2011 at 2:02pm+1 to Normbal
Paul is a fringe isolationists thats detached from reality. Obama wants to befriend them and Paul wants to ignor them, i dont know which is worse. Normbal has their facts right, cant be disputed and ron paul knows this is why he will never win a presidential race. In the words of Andrew Wilkow “We are right, they are wrong”. In this case the “they” just so happens to be ron paul.
Truth has no agenda
Report Post »right-wing-waco
Posted on August 14, 2011 at 2:05pm@martinez012577
Well stated. Stay ready.
I also like Ron Paul due to his belief that most of the federal government is not needed, unConstitutional, and should be disbanded. We could, & should, cut the feds by 80%. Then you would not even need the IRS to collect taxes to pay for all the unConstitutional government.
Report Post »A Doctors Labor Is Not My Right
Posted on August 14, 2011 at 2:13pm@right-wing-waco,
“Part of the reason we have bases around the world is to be ready in case we are attacked”
Those countries don’t belong to us. We are not entitled to have bases in other peoples’ countries.
Report Post »IntegrityFirst08
Posted on August 14, 2011 at 2:17pm@ Martinez
The evolution of fighting a superpower like the United States had obviously changed. NO nation is going to put their stamp on a full on attack against the US………But they will give their approval to terrorist organizations inside their borders acting on their own behalf and not of the host nations behalf. You see this in almost every major Hub where terrorism has a foot. Your thoughts on conventional warfare where you have an actual face to an enemy is somewhat flawed.
Yes we are still the strongest, but as you have seen numbers dont account for much when you have a faceless enemy. Isolationists like Paul will never be in charge here and thatnk god for that
Report Post »Jediusetheforce
Posted on August 14, 2011 at 2:20pmHey Allen go back to your military complex of big government. You are part of the problem not the solution. I dare you to cut government jobs, I bet you can’t. Being in the military 20+ years makes you part of the big government that you so highly pledge your allegiance. Your words are like the air between my hair.
Report Post »nothingbuthetruth
Posted on August 14, 2011 at 2:21pmLet me school you knuckleheads on The Pres of Iran. He believes that to bring about the twelfth Iman, he needs to set the world on fire with blood. Our blood. Ron Paul is a fool on foreign policy. He sounded like a gosh darn Democommie the other night!!!
Report Post »right-wing-waco
Posted on August 14, 2011 at 2:24pm@A Doctors Labor Is Not My Right
Report Post »You can have bases if that country is willing to allow them.
101
Posted on August 14, 2011 at 2:27pmIf Allen West tried to take on Ron Paul in a debate he would lose, West is still wet behind the ears when it comes to Ron Paul’s stature…West is 100% military and should be a military strategist/advisor not a congressman. West being a career military man would be scary as POTUS (very unpredictable) glad to see he’s not in the running!
Report Post »We’re not the world police and if China/Russia can‘t take care of Iran then we sure as hell can’t
lionB
Posted on August 14, 2011 at 2:30pmI agree! Ron Paul has some great ideas and he may be right about the origins of the problems we have with Iran but they clearly have a warped sense of reality.
Report Post »IntegrityFirst08
Posted on August 14, 2011 at 2:32pm@Judiusetheforce…….Once again you out did yourself. Being in the military for 20+ years makes you big government???????? Air between your Hair????????? I dont know why i even read some of the garbage here.
I cant beleive this crap is comming from a conservative blog. This is an embarassment to conservatives. I can see now why the liberal left has the notion that we are crazy and nuts. Why do you Ron Paul people even claim to be conservative?????? Your not. Most of you sound like your half baked when you speak or get so tied up in Academia and whos smarter than who that you sound like ********.
Wheres the common sence??????
Report Post »A Doctors Labor Is Not My Right
Posted on August 14, 2011 at 2:33pm@right-wing-waco,
“You can have bases if that country is willing to allow them.”
True enough, but since it’s not our country, and we have no legitimate authority over what our troops do there, why would you let government spend your money anywhere but here?
A respect for national sovereignty should elicit an aversion to such an arrangement – how would you like it if another country stationed troops in our country?
Report Post »Highland
Posted on August 14, 2011 at 2:40pmI agree with Caleb. Well said.
Report Post »TroyBray
Posted on August 14, 2011 at 2:43pmTo all Paul supporters:
Report Post »If you really want what Paul is selling, i.e. the US unable to project military force, open borders to trade and traffic, streets overrun with drug addicts, and an expansion of the welfare state to meet the needs of all the illegal aliens and junkies, then vote for Obama. He will achieve the same ends much quicker, because he can at least get half of Washington to agree with him. Paul can’t put together half a dozen Reps to oppose Obamacare. I don’t like Washington, but I still love America, so I’ll vote for Bachmann or Santorum, or Gingrich, or Cain, or anybody but Obama or Paul.
right-wing-waco
Posted on August 14, 2011 at 2:45pmA Doctors Labor Is Not My Right
“… how would you like it if another country stationed troops in our country?”
Agreed, I have often had the same thought. What if the UN wanted to open a military base here? I would be VERY OPPOSED to it.
One alternative to bases overseas is to have defensive systems, (missiles, etc), on our land. It‘s such a shame that the people of this world can’t get along.
Report Post »Chuck Stein
Posted on August 14, 2011 at 2:47pm@ DARKFIRE
You are right, I am constantly reminded of the Perot-Paul similarity.
Still, either of them would be better than Obama (as would ANY Republican — including RINOs — who has announced for president). West would be PARTICULARLY better than Obama.
Report Post »Jack2011
Posted on August 14, 2011 at 2:49pmWest has really been a let down as a congressman. He is still better than an liberal but he sounds more and more like Scott Brown every day.
Report Post »Clean House
Posted on August 14, 2011 at 2:56pmThe Tea Party has to Dump Rino West! West Voted YES in support of raising the Debt Ceiling.
Report Post »He slings a good line of Bull$heet but when it comes to a fight he has DROPPED HIS GUN & RAN.
Jvdawg
Posted on August 14, 2011 at 2:56pmJapan decided to attack us because FDR cut off oil to them, and FDR deliberately left our fleet vulnerable at Pearl Harbor.
Report Post »Okie from Muskogee
Posted on August 14, 2011 at 2:58pmAllen West is a sale out to the TEA party.
Do not forget Allen West voted to increase spending and continue America down the path of collapse. He did not have the honor, courage, or integrity to stand up to the establishment and vote NO yet he had broke from the establishment to vote NO on defunding Obamacare. This is fact look at his voting record.
Allen West is a sale out don’t be fooled. He should resign as he is a disgrace to this country. He was forced out of the Military because he could not control himself. Now he is double talking for politics.
If you followed Allen Wests advice he would be waging war in every Muslim Nation. He is a war monger and NEOCON!!!!
If Allen West had any courage or honor he would straight declare we need to wage war with Iran tomorrow. He won‘t because he’s a coward!
Ron Paul supporters, please contact Allen West notifying him he is NeoCon and does not represent the same values as the TEA party. He is a sale out!
https://forms.house.gov/west/webforms/contact-form.shtml
TEA
Report Post »Secret Squirrel
Posted on August 14, 2011 at 2:58pm.
Allen West is the real deal.
But why do we need 750 military bases around the world?
Report Post »Wouldn’t 20 do it?
And, the stealth bombers don’t even land outside of the US!
Don’t tell me there is no pork in the defense budget.
junkmaninohio
Posted on August 14, 2011 at 3:03pmRon Paul is a good legislator but very naive when it comes to Iran and nuclear weapons. Don’t need that in the WH.
Report Post »Scottsman
Posted on August 14, 2011 at 3:07pm@JUNKMANINOHIO
Exactly how would you stop Iran from acquiring nuclear weapons? Exactly how would any country or Allen West stop Iran from acquiring nukes?
Report Post »Okie from Muskogee
Posted on August 14, 2011 at 3:11pmWith technology today we have no need to PAY others to keep troops in their countries. We have satellites that can see a pin head from space anywhere in the world. We have the ability to nuke any city in less then one hour.
Either your for minding our own business, as the founders intended, or your for waging war with Iran like Neocons. Pick and clearly state what your for. Don’t criticize Paul for articulating what the founders would tell you we should do.
If your for war with Iran have the courage to say it and declare your NeoCon, don’t be ashamed, it’s who you are.
Allen West sold us out twice. Contact him and tell him he is wrong.
Report Post »S_Malc13
Posted on August 14, 2011 at 3:12pmIf you cannot distinguish the difference between isolationist and non-interventionalist, perhaps you should research first, then come back and sound like you know what you’re talking about. Right now, you don’t.
News reports have been out that Israel will attack Iran. The latest news said this September. We will have nothing to do with that, except of course, financially backing them. Point is, they are taking care of themselves.
Ron Paul will not lower defense spending like your faux pas Tea Party reps in Congress have allowed by creating a Super Congress that will threaten DoD spending. That‘s not Ron Paul’s fault. That’s your Tea Party reps. Furthermore, by not INTERVENING, the UN and the rest of the cowardly NATO members can perform their share of policing the world, not the US taking the lead. How can we afford to anyway, when Neocon and Socialist policies are transferring our countries wealth overseas or to domestic ideologues?
Aren’t we currently Americans held captured by a Socialist President in the White House, trying to escape from it? Isn’t there Iranian people being held captured by an evil tyrant, being murdered for their opposition? 0bama spurred the Arab Spring, in the wrong place. Imagine the idea of liberty reaching the supressed Iranians, not 0bama’s version of a Muslim Brohood Democracy, but of a Republic. Strawman: Jong-Il threatens South Korea all the time, we didn’t stop him from getting nukes. Why?
Report Post »chalkdust
Posted on August 14, 2011 at 3:17pmI think Ron Paul understands radical Islam. As for Iran, exactly what should we do? Start another war? Nuke them? Send a strongly worded letter? Start a revolution? That worked out for Iranians last time. Are we seriously going to start a fifth war and the better question is can we afford to actually stop Iran from becoming a member of the nuclear club? The answer is no. Do they threaten to dominate the region? Yes.
Report Post »We may have a chance to move away from the militarist model we have been under for so long. It would be a good thing. That’s why the establishment calls Paul a kook. Don’t misunderstand, I will stomp a bad guy in a second, if and only if he is directly threatening us.
We must go in another direction for the path we are on leads to our destruction. Do not deny what your senses tell you. It is very clear the choice we face. Paul will not be the savior but he will frame the arguments accurately and we will begin to talk as citizens about a different direction because the one we are on now is not working out for us.
smartgirl
Posted on August 14, 2011 at 3:18pmIsrael doesn’t need the fallout of a United States-Iran “war”. The Israelis can be counted to take Iran out themselves if Iran becomes a threat. Iran with a nuke will be considered a threat. Just an opinion.
Report Post »Okie from Muskogee
Posted on August 14, 2011 at 3:20pmThe only naive people are those believing the NeoCons.
Saddam has weapons of mass destruction! Hurry let’s bomb them!
Herd the masses and move them with fear! It’s the progressive/NeoCon way!
Say what you mean, mean what you say! If you think we can tell Iran yes or no then your advocating for a world police and world government. Your advocating for war and should have the courage to say it.
Allen West is another John McCain. Let’s bomb every body!!!!
Report Post »click_name_4_impeachment
Posted on August 14, 2011 at 3:32pmAlthough i agree Iran is dangerous, and is an issue….what i care about more than that is Liberty, and freedom. None of the other candidates understand it as well as Paul.
What we are doing with this issue is looking at the tip of this iceberg, and no where else. In reality I seriously doubt Dr. Paul would totally write it off as a non concern, that would be ridiculous, but he does have convictions, and ideas of liberty, and to skirt around questions regarding them would be fake and not standing up for his convictions.
I would love to get to the idea of free trade, not being the policemen of the world, and minding our business. I agree with everything Dr. Paul says, but that can not and, would not be done over night….but we could take steps to get there.
Report Post »Therightsofbilly
Posted on August 14, 2011 at 3:33pmI have contacted Mr. West to tell him he is right.
Report Post »fatjack
Posted on August 14, 2011 at 3:41pmI’m no Paul fan, but you sir (West) have no room to talk. Sell out.
Report Post »Clean House
Posted on August 14, 2011 at 3:49pmLook at West’s voting record. What did he do?
Report Post »Defund Obama care, NO, Stole all the wallets of his Regiment!
Extend the Patriot Act, YES, Read everybody’s letters from home, in the name of security!
Feel up Grandma at the Airport.
Raise the Debt Ceiling, YES, Dropped his Weapon & Ran!
Obama has more Integrity, At least he admits he’s with the LEFT.
Okie from Muskogee
Posted on August 14, 2011 at 3:50pm@TheRightsOfBilly
Howdy.
Do you have the honor and integrity to openly say you want war with Iran?
How do you suggest we “stop” Iran?
If we can tell Iran no to anything does that give Mexico authority to tell us how to handle illegals?
Please have the honor and integrity to explain your stance.
Report Post »StLouis2k
Posted on August 14, 2011 at 3:54pmAs Paul points out quite frequently, we are borrowing money in order to maintain our military presence overseas and a move towards non-interventionism is the only economically feasible means for maintaining a strong national defense in years to come.
If we are to come to terms with the “big secret” of attempted domination the world’s energy supply through force then we must also come to terms with the economic cost, and human cost, to achieve it.
Report Post »Jack2011
Posted on August 14, 2011 at 4:07pmNo argument here.
Ron Paul is the ONLY candidate running on what our Founding Father’s meant when they said DO NOT GET ENTANGLED with FOREIGN COUNTRY AFFAIRS.
The USA stopped being a republic after WWII and became an EMPIRE with 900 military bases stationed all over the world including in countries who can damn well afford their own defenses. But EMPIRES NEVER LEARN and the SHEEPLE mistake PATRIOTISM for SHOVING THEIR VIEWS DOWN OTHER COUNTRIES THROATS and interfering in other countries so SOMEONE on either side hates us.
Report Post »Sail Away
Posted on August 14, 2011 at 4:13pmVery true…I agree with you…But I have read some of the other comments and I am amazed how people write Ron Paul off as a nut job. When have we become so small minded in our discourse? He may be considered a foreign policy isolationist but that does not make him crazy. And what others espouse about Iran…have they done their own research??? OR are we allowing the media to hook us into another war??? I have so many questions this time around. I’m not blindly pulling the lever for just any candidate.
Report Post »S_Malc13
Posted on August 14, 2011 at 4:22pmRon Paul constantly has to reintroduce the concept of the Constitution to the public; becasue our school system undoubtedly, is not doing their job. But how convenient for Neocons, with the public dumb about the Constitution, they can support violating the Constitution as well, and demonize anyone who protests the blatant violations, just like the Socialist 0bama regime and his minions. Interesting.
Conclusion: Socialist 0bamites = Neocon Bushwhackers….both work or had worked to come to the same end…the end of America.
Are you really sure Ron Paul supporters are crazy?? Admit it, you haven’t really thought about it. You just sling rhetoric like liberals call Tea Partiers racists.
Report Post »Arcangel Michael
Posted on August 14, 2011 at 4:23pm@Okie
In 1999, Hussein tried to buy yellowcake uranium from Niger, why? That’s a fact verified in the Senate Select Committee on Intelligence report, pdf page 53 / 521. You’re the president of the US, are you going to bet the lives of your children that Hussein won’t use those nukes he was trying to reconstitute? Again, I ask you, why was Hussein trying to buy uranium in June of 1999 from Niger? The Iraq war was justified!
http://web.mit.edu/simsong/www/iraqreport2-textunder.pdf
Report Post »teamarcheson
Posted on August 14, 2011 at 4:24pmPaul is 10,000 times better than that satan who is in the Oval Office. At least Paul is a US Citizen.
Report Post »Therightsofbilly
Posted on August 14, 2011 at 4:25pmHi Okie,
Question: How do I suggest we “stop” Iran?
Answer: By what ever means necessary, as soon as possible.
Question: Does Mexico have the right to tell us how to handle illegals?
Report Post »Answer: No. And that’s a silly analogy. Why do so many of them want to come here anyway?
The only thing that differentiates them from us is an imaginary dotted line on a map, and our governments. Why don’t they just become like us? They have the resources. But I digress.
teamarcheson
Posted on August 14, 2011 at 4:27pmThe white-guilt ridden GOP is only letting West tap dance on their stage because he is black. The GOP things blacks will vote for them if they put on a black tap dancer.
Report Post »Therightsofbilly
Posted on August 14, 2011 at 4:36pm@teamarcheson
Is that you encinom?
Report Post »Okie from Muskogee
Posted on August 14, 2011 at 4:46pm@ArcAngel Michael
Your wrong. Valerie Plume? Her husband? Goggle them and why she was “leaked”. Saddam was not trying to buy crap and Niger sure didn’t sale it. PROPAGANDA. Plume and husband both warned toppling Saddam would lead to Iran gaining more Scientists and that the US and Israel would assassinate them. Guess what happened two or so weeks ago? Iranian scientist is assassinated. Saddam himself said he was lying about it all. You believe Iran’s words but not Saddams after captured and interrogated? PROPAGANDA!
Remember that’s the same Iraq we supported. We funded. We aided. Just like Iran during the Shaw. Wake up!
Report Post »portague
Posted on August 14, 2011 at 4:50pma certain level of bases around the world need to exist mostly ones that secure US trade routes and allow our military to respond to threats to trade routes. If Ron Paul wants to solve everything by trade then we need that much. In the early 1800 we had problems in the mediterranean sea with trade ships being attacked and held randsom (sound familiar). The got sick of it so we sent battleships of the time over there and blasted them to kingdom kong to make a point. So certain amount of military needs to exist beyond our borders for reasons such as this. Anything beyond this is more than likely unecessary. Most countries want us there to play policemen and then charge us out the butt for it. I say tell them go to heck and defend your damn self. I would probably be less against them wanting us there if they paid for everyhting but they do not. The funny thing is the people in these countries want us gone but the governments of these countries want us there. Essentially playing military wellfare using our money our troops to keep some of these countries safe and that welfare need to stop.
Report Post »Okie from Muskogee
Posted on August 14, 2011 at 4:57pm@RightsOfBilly
Please have the integrity and courage to say “I want war with Iran”. “I want a 6th war”. Say exactly what your meaning for all to see. Be sure an enlist as well. Really easy for a lot to want war while sitting at home.
Do you proclaim to be NeoCon? You are of this is what your advocating.
If we can tell Iran, or any other country that is a sovereign nation what to do then Mexico has the same authority to tell us what to do. That is called PRINCIPLE Billy.
Why did Allen West vote to increase spending?
Why did Allen West vote for the Patriot Act?
Why did Allen West vote against defunding ObamaCare?
Why did Allen West vote For TSA?
None of the above is TEA party principled yet he claims to be a TEA party. No Principles or honor. I can’t believe you support this man.
TEA
Report Post »Patrick in AZ
Posted on August 14, 2011 at 4:57pmI agree with West – Ron Paul is dangerously naive about the rest of the world.
Report Post »lillymckim
Posted on August 14, 2011 at 4:59pmI also agree with Alan West 100% while I might line Ron Pauls view on finance reform and doing away with the Fed and an audit of the Fed is a fantasy of mine as well … I certainly do not want to hear a Presidential candidate say:
“Let Iran Have The Bomb”
That is just bat sh*t crazy!
Report Post »In The Right
Posted on August 14, 2011 at 5:11pmOnce again the “Isolationist” Scientology-like cult members of Ron Paul’s camp refuse to admit the reality of the world today. Iran with a nuclear weapon would be devastating to the already fragile Middle East and Israel. Iran would share the weapon with Al Queada and other Muslim terrorist groups who are determined to strike the USA (Great Satan) and it’s allies (Israel & Europe).
The USA maintains bases worldwide to enable our military to protect our “interests” should we be attacked, just look at the piracy of US flagged ships off Somalia. We must be vigilant and don’t need to experience another Korean War having to transport tens of thousands of soldiers and equipment to the battlefield which could result in defeat due to the time needed to organize. “Isolationists” like Nutty Xenu Ron Paul and their supporters are oblivious to the dangers the USA faces in the 21st century, their naivete is dangerous to our survival.
Report Post »bboatmanable
Posted on August 14, 2011 at 5:12pmESCAPE-FROM-SOCIALISM
Is that why Iran call the U.S. the “great” Satan and Israel the “little” Satan?! Personally I take people at the word, and what Iran is saying is that WE are the greater threat.
Report Post »Ron_WA
Posted on August 14, 2011 at 5:15pmLet’s hear it for ISOLATIONISM!!! Yeah, I’m for letting Iran get & use a nuke on Israel & whoever they want; it’s none of our business. Really????
Report Post »Jediusetheforce
Posted on August 14, 2011 at 5:17pmAllen West is a 1 term congressman!!!
Report Post »Okie from Muskogee
Posted on August 14, 2011 at 5:23pm@BBoatManable
Why did Osama say he attacked us? For being in Muslim land. Did we listen to him? NOPE. We are still there.
So, why does Iran call us big Satan and say they will wipe us out? Because we are in Muslim lands. Your listening to the threat but your not listening to the WHY.
Israel does not need the US. We have no right to tell Israel to go back to old borders just as we have no right to tell Iran what to do. Israel has nukes. Israel whooped many Arabs countries at once in the Six Day.
Would you want to attack Iran if they built bases in Georgia and New York? Would you want to rise up if a Muslim became president and tried to implement their way of life and law? YES you would.
Treat others how you want to be treated. Mind your business America!
Report Post »Therightsofbilly
Posted on August 14, 2011 at 5:24pmOkie,
They don’t want my tired old a** again.
Report Post »cloudsofwar
Posted on August 14, 2011 at 5:25pmwe don’t need to be everywhere. Ron Paul is right bring the troops home NOW. we are not the worlds policemen. as for Iran we have enough fire power to bury them many times over. beware the government media complex (eisenhower). maybe it’s time for a little isolation but with a weary eye open.
Report Post »Jack007
Posted on August 14, 2011 at 5:28pmI Concur…………
Report Post »Therightsofbilly
Posted on August 14, 2011 at 5:30pmGosh Okie,
I thought I was pretty clear when I said “By whatever means necessary, as soon as possible”
Report Post »Patrick in AZ
Posted on August 14, 2011 at 5:35pm@Okie – you are a dangerous fool just like Ron Paul. We can sit back and watch, pretend like it is none of our business, but eventually it will come for us too (just like it did in WWII) – the question is, will we be strong enough then to stop it?
Report Post »Okie from Muskogee
Posted on August 14, 2011 at 5:38pmAll those saying we should tell Iran what to do please consciously acknowledge by saying allowed “I want war with Iran” “I want a World Government” “I want the US to police the World”.
That is what you are whether you have the integrity to admit it or not.
Those views do not align with small Government or less taxes. Those views don’t align with the TEA party. Those views don’t align with the founders.
Those views are aligned with Globalists, Progressives, and NeoCons. Those views align with Barak Obamas!
Have integrity, honor and courage to clearly state what you are and who you stand with. Stand in truth!
TEA
Report Post »chazman
Posted on August 14, 2011 at 5:38pm… I would have to agree with Mr. West. There has always been something that bothers me about Ron Paul, and when he said that about Iran, it made me raise an eyebrow. And then I thought, Ronald Reagan would have kicked his Azz for that…
Report Post »101
Posted on August 14, 2011 at 5:55pmThe few posting Ron Paul is an isolationist need to research Isolationism vs Non-Interventionism…The Blaze never gave you the full story just a one sided hack at Rep. Paul
Listen to Congressman Paul explain it, there’re many more videos & reading on this subject for those of you like “West” that are confused & don’t understand simple logic!
ttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Ke78B9xfik
Report Post »Shiroi Raion
Posted on August 14, 2011 at 5:55pmAnyone is better than Obama. As someone said in another post, “I’d vote for a deer tick over Obama.” I don’t agree with allowing Iran to get a nuke, but would Ron really just sit on his thumbs if Iran got a nuke? Iran whose leaders want to “wash the world in blood.” President Ima’madman is worse than Hitler; he just doesn’t have the force Hitler had comparative to America. If he ever has that force, I have no doubt he’ll begin WWIII.
Report Post »Lucky for us, at the moment, Israel must be watching Iran very, very closely. So, in the end, I would prefer Michelle, but I’d settle for Ron. At least Ron would likely fix the economy and rein in much of the pork, waste, and over-regulation.
No matter who wins the nomination, in 2012, I‘m going to that booth and I’m not voting for Obama nor for my Liberal Senators.
Libby Tarian
Posted on August 14, 2011 at 6:00pmRick Perry and CAIR are buddies. He must not think that Muslims are a threat either.
Report Post »http://www.debbieschlussel.com/40924/hamas-cair-netwk-in-love-with-rick-perry/#more-40924
Speedward
Posted on August 14, 2011 at 6:07pmWhen are we going to get a missile defense? They’re going to get their nuclear weapon. If they start anything we need a missile defense and the ability to put them down fast.
Report Post »goofey
Posted on August 14, 2011 at 6:07pmEverything you say is GREAT calebgs83, but what do you suggest the president DO bout it? Bomb Iran? Start a war with Iran? You have no credible answer. I may vote for Paul.
Report Post »getalong
Posted on August 14, 2011 at 6:10pmWhile I agree that America should always help to promote freedom and peace, we do that by first letting nations know that we will kick ass on any country that threatens our way of life or the way of life for our allies in the world. It is a message that is important to send. The reason there is so much turmoil in the world I believe is due to America’s unwillingness to deal with Iran forcefully. Ron Paul’s argument “that other countries have nuclear weapons so why can’t Iran”, doesn’t work because Ahmadeajah(sp)? is mentally ill – he is delusional, psychotic and paranoid. The risk he could “freak out” over some vision or voice telling him to do something is high. He is more-likely than most other people in the world to actually detonate a nuclear bomb. Can you imagine – the death and destruction. Ron Paul may have some good ideas, and has a good grasp of our constitution, however, he does not understand that the sad truth about peace is that sometimes it can only be achieved through war. 2012!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Report Post »Okie from Muskogee
Posted on August 14, 2011 at 6:16pm@RightsOfBilly
Why don’t you say it clearly so there is no wiggle room. If you want war say I want war.
@Patrick
Your dangerous for believing the PROPAGANDA.
Why does Iran want to wipe us out? WHY?
Iran screws with us we can make glass. They won‘t screw with us if we weren’t over there.
IF IRAN WANTED TO NUKE INSIDE THE US NORTH KOREA, PAKISTAN, OR A RUSSIA NUKE WOULD HAVE BEEN BOUGHT AND RAN ACROSS THE WIDE OPEN SOUTHERN BORDER. THEY DON’T HAVE TO MAKE ANYTHING.
LEARN TO LISTEN TO THE WHYS OF THE THREAT ISSUED. WAKE UP YOUR SUPPORTING THE WORLD GOVERNMENT!!!!!!!
Report Post »S_Malc13
Posted on August 14, 2011 at 6:29pmNice find, Libby. Probably won‘t stop ’gushing’ though. Ron Paul supports trading with them, not sleeping with them.
Report Post »Pujols
Posted on August 14, 2011 at 6:43pmWest is right. Ron can not win. He would be the only one that Obama could beat and I like Ron.
RON PAUL CAN NOT WIN! GET OVER IT!
Report Post »Therightsofbilly
Posted on August 14, 2011 at 6:44pmHi Okie,
Not I, nor Mr. West, or PatrickinAZ, or anyone else that I know of, WANT war with anyone, EVER.
But there is a difference between wanting something, and resigning yourself to the reality of what may be needed.
Patrick mentioned WWII. What might the world look like today had we sat that one out?
Report Post »The10thAmendment
Posted on August 14, 2011 at 7:10pmSayonara Mr West. That vision of yours to rise further in American politics has reached an end.
From your love affair with the Patriot Act, to your back stabbing over fiscal policy, and now your blatant determination to push American militarism.
Who you are is crystal clear. You are a traitor. From Warrior to Benedict Arnold.
Report Post »american1st
Posted on August 14, 2011 at 7:20pmi am both disappointed and amused at how the constitutionalists/libertarians are being attacked by republican/neocons in the exact same hit and run, misinformation, trolling, style as conservatives/beck followers are attacked by the left…. the Paul supporters have come back time after time with truth and logic, yet the neocon supporters still post the same tired talking points and mis-caricaturization mis-information over and over…
i guess the human brain reacts to having it’s “beliefs based on nothing” challenged the same way regardless of the ideology those unfounded beliefs are supporting..
how can you be tea party (limited government) and support more government (world police) at the same time? how can you be pro freedom and pro patriot act at the same time? i see the exact same cognitive dissonance that we all laugh at the democrats for having……
NO NEOCONS NO RINOS 2012
Report Post »to the republicans and conservatives here — “question boldly” when looking at the candidates (and congressmen) you support, you may end up seeing far more neocons and rino’s in the race than you ever suspected….
Okie from Muskogee
Posted on August 14, 2011 at 7:48pm@RightsOfBilly
We entered WW2 because Japan attacked us, not because of Germany….Remember?
Billy, why does Iran want to “wipe us out”?
You either want war to solve the perceived problem or you do not want war to solve the perceived problem. Which is it?
If we can tell Iran what to do can we tell Israel what to do as BO did? Be consistent!
We are either the world police or we are not, which is it?
As for dishonorable West, can you not defend his flip flops?
Report Post »Okie from Muskogee
Posted on August 14, 2011 at 8:00pm@rights of Billy
And I nor Ron Paul are advocating coming home and acting as if the rest of the World doesn’t exist. Only stupid people or liars believe or say that.
We should mind our home business and have friends throughout the World. If Iran attacks us wage war and make them the next 10 states added to our Union.
Until then we should not be nation building under the guise of “Democracy”. That’s the definition of Neo-Con.
Iran builds a bomb and nukes someone they will pay the price. But I’m sure China and Russia as well as Pakistan and India would attack them due to fallout in their country.
Israel holds dome of Rock which would be destroyed or damaged by a Nuke on Israel.
Listen not only to the threat but why the threat is issued. Same threat Americans make daily because illegals invade us daily.
They see us there as we see illegals here.
Report Post »ProbIemSoIver
Posted on August 14, 2011 at 8:03pmSome of you people are seriously without hope. You will not wake up!!!! Do we have an American Government official at all of the Iranian nuclear facilities? NO !!!! It is UN sanctioned Reps that go to make inspections. So while we are debating BS, spinning our wheels, Iran could be Building right now. Iran can acquire from other sources and countries what they need to make Nukes anyway, regardless of whether we are monitoring them or not. We really can’t stop them, is my point. Maybe we can delay them. This leads me to my next point. Our Government is to provide for the common DEFENSE. not OFFENSE !!! Still to this day, NO ONE has given me a legitimate example or proof of anyone giving us the right to police the world! Who gave them the Authority ?
Report Post »RON PAUL is a Doctor, a veteran of our armed forces, A true Constitutionalist and and an economic genius. He receives more campaign funds from the U.S. Military than any other presidential candidate ever has. You Clowns think he has no Foreign or Military experience? He understands Iran’s threats as just that. They would never be able to get a ICBM nuke delivered to us. They would be a parking lot of glass. If they did deliver a nuke to the U.S. It would be a smaller bomb, such as the 30 Russian nuke suitcases that “disappeared”. any rogue nation or radical group could do that. As I stated earlier, they can get those from the black market. West was crying in diapers, when Paul was conducting Foreign policy. lol.
str8blues
Posted on August 14, 2011 at 8:06pmEscape_from_socialism You must have your head in the sand not to think that Israel won’t take on Iran by themselves even if we abandon them. When they think the threat is near…….they will send in jets and take out their nuclear capabilities. Without a doubt!
Report Post »ProbIemSoIver
Posted on August 14, 2011 at 8:18pmWhy did the TEA party let that guy up to the Podium? He should have been tarred and feathered !!! He is no TEA party member. A real Tea Party member would NEVER sign the bill to extend the Patriot act !!!! Bottom Line !!!!
Report Post »GhostOfJefferson
Posted on August 14, 2011 at 8:27pmI agree Caleb. But the excuse will be, has always been “we’ve done it in the past, ergo, we have to continue doing it, otherwise, we won’t be doing it”. The warfare state mentality is as sick as the welfare state mentality. Republicans used to be the party that never started wars nor endorsed them except as a matter of national self defense (in the real sense). The progressives have made them into slavering warmongers, and they made the Left into the same thing as well (who denies war now, honestly?).
There is no easy way out of this. Folks will need to learn the err of their ways by experience, talking will not suffice. They will fight you to the last breath even as their sons are shot before them for no good reason. Que sera sera.
Report Post »ProbIemSoIver
Posted on August 14, 2011 at 8:28pmAnd someone as smart as Paul and politically educated (30 years in D.C.), understands that Israel CAN and WILL defend themselves. As a matter of fact, Israel would love to be let off the UN leash. Maybe this is RON PAULs way of disarming IRAN without being held responsible or getting the U.S. involved. He is THAT brilliant !!!!
Report Post »Arcangel Michael
Posted on August 14, 2011 at 8:49pm@Okie
Did you read the link I posted? It’s rock solid proof that Hussein tried to buy yellowcake uranium in June 1999! YOU’RE WRONG! You can cover your ears and sing lalalalal but the fact is that the man the CIA sent to Niger to investigate is the one who testified that a former Prime Minister told him that yes indeed, a delegation of Iraqi’s approached him in 1999 looking to buy yellowcake uranium. That link I posted is the Senate Select Committee on Intelligence report. And Valerie Plame‘s husband is the one who testified under oath to the facts that I’ve posted. Hussein tried to buy yellowcake uranium from Niger in June of 1999…I’ve posted the proof!
Report Post »HellPhish89
Posted on August 14, 2011 at 8:52pmheres how our defense strategy works:
Report Post »we patrol the worlds oceans, keep up bases in countries weve been in since ww2, and generally wherever weve fought. thing is, hey are all leased and the leases can be terminated. we keep them because we are projecting power so that the trouble, for the most part, stays there. isolationism ala paul is a historically dangerous and bloody ideal. there are bases we dont need but one should look at why we are using the strategy we are.
ProbIemSoIver
Posted on August 14, 2011 at 8:56pmI can see by all the PAUL naysayers, that we are infiltrated by trolls to discredit him. Let their be no doubt SOROS and friends hire a lot of people to infiltrate the BLAZE posing as conservatives, to back their undercover, Bilderberg-hand-picked, Progressive RINO candidates.
Report Post »C. Schwehr
Posted on August 14, 2011 at 8:57pmWe can agree on your point. Our NAVY is the first responder when it comes to protecting U.S. interests overseas. We do not have to have fixed, expensive, vulnerable bases on foreign soil for that purpose when we have 12 mobile, self defending airbases that can be called to anywhere in the world when needed.
As for “ESCAPE_FROM_SOCIALISM”: Israel IS at war with Iran…it is a cold war of proxies (so-called palestinians, Hamas, Hezbollah, Al Qaida, etc) who are paid, trained, and supplied by IRAN. You are very naive about the world!
Report Post »Libertarian
Posted on August 14, 2011 at 8:59pm@calebgs83,
So you understand that the middle east is a hot bed for terrorists but an intellectual like Ron Paul does not?
You are mistaken.
Report Post »Libertarian
Posted on August 14, 2011 at 9:18pm@Calebgs83,
I don’t understand how some of you conservatives wrap yourselves in the constitution when its convenient, the only “exception” clause is Article V and it requires a constitutional convention to change it. Ron Paul follows the rule of law, some of you people follow it only to further your own agenda or “feeeelings”.
Pull your heads out of your butts. Liberty and the belief in liberty REQUIRES us to apply principle and philosophy across the board. There are those like Ron Paul and myself that actually believe in the constitution, most of you are between us originalist’s and the liberal positivists, you are C.I.N.O’s (Constitutionalists in name only).
Report Post »Biff Marupis
Posted on August 14, 2011 at 9:21pmIf you don’t hear it, then you haven’t been listening.
Report Post »banjarmon
Posted on August 14, 2011 at 9:26pmAllen West has a way with words if you Blaze fans need a refresher cource
Report Post »http://www.theblaze.com/stories/rep-allen-west-tells-koran-wielding-cair-executive-not-to-blow-sunshine-up-my-butt/
Independent007
Posted on August 14, 2011 at 9:48pmHalf of the wars we fought we didnt need to fight.
Report Post »I dont care i fIran gets a nuclear weapon. Let them. We don’t have the resources anymore to be the POLICE TO THE WORLD thanks to the banksters that have stripped America dry like buzzards with carrion. We are now witnessing the death of America. RP is the man to move us in the right direction.
Okie from Muskogee
Posted on August 14, 2011 at 9:56pm@ArcAngel Michael
Did you not read the words of Mr. Wilson after his visits to Niger?
The link is to “What I Didn’t Find In Africa” by the husband of a CIA agent
http://www.commondreams.org/views03/0706-02.htm
What does intelligence say NOW about Saddam having WMD’s or “yellowcake”? He never had them. Propaganda sure does work doesn’t it. Yup.
I wonder how many mosques have been built from the tax payer dollars sent to Iraq since we went to War with them. Doesn’t that make you feel good, nation building and all……..
Fact: There were no WMD’s or “Yellowcake” found in Iraq. Deal with it.
Report Post »lylejk
Posted on August 14, 2011 at 10:23pmRon’s argument would be reasonable if the Iranian government were populated by reasonable people (i.e., MAD works between reasonable countries), but unfortunately Iran is filled the 12th Iman‘ers and they don’t care if they pop off a nuke so long as they believe it will cause the 12th Iman to appear. That’s why Iran should never be allowed to have a nuke pure and simple. Otherwise, I do agree that we should not be the world’s police force and we need to bring all of our troops home. :)
Report Post »psadie
Posted on August 14, 2011 at 10:29pmRon Paul gets it about Iran. He is worried about the USA getting into another war. The CIA says there is no proof that Iran is building a nuclear weapon. Israel can defend herself; she has a very formidable nuclear arsenal thanks to America. Israel can snuff out Iran in a NY minute. WHY does the USA have to be brought into this?. We are also arming Saudi Arabia, Qatar etc. We are being fed more propaganda to keep the war machine rolling along? I for one am sick of the BS and the deaths of our warriors and for WHAT?
Report Post »toto
Posted on August 14, 2011 at 11:10pmIf we should decide to remove ourselves from the positions we have assumed, it would take years of planning, you can’t just wave a magic wand and disappear from the places we have established a presence without bothering to anticipate the consequences. Simpletons alway have simple solutions to complex issues.
Report Post »mr anarchy
Posted on August 14, 2011 at 11:14pmron paul is for the european class system … he is about anti american as they come..
he is not a constitutionalist.. he is a austrian school of economics.. and politics kinda guy..
sorry i like ron paul but he is about as american as marxists are…..
americans left that whole class system over in europe…but ron paul wants it…
Report Post »stopspendingourmoney
Posted on August 14, 2011 at 11:15pmIf you want the regular democrat or republicans we have been voting for decades that have got us into this mess of debt and war and bigger government and straying farther from what the founding fathers wanted for our county please vote for anyone other than Ron Paul..
Report Post »cykoaudio
Posted on August 14, 2011 at 11:51pmno Paul is right,& anyone who is old enough to remember the soviet threat,they WERE a greater threat AND HAD NUCLEAR WEAPONS..you all youngsters think ISLAM IS GREATER EVIL THAN WE THOUGHT THE SOVIETS WERE 30 years ago..no,they’re not..& although I support Israel I think we could be used by propaganda from Israel that they’re in danger from Iran etc,to use us to take care of THEIR problem,thats not right either…anyone who thinks that the media is not trying to sidetrack us on Paul w/military this and that,and what drugs Paul thinks should be legal,are getting sidetracked from the fact that Paul has the most knowledge and experience to get this economy rolling again,& some of that BY saving money on the wars,plural…and you all don‘t think that if we mind our own p’s and q’s that we would get MORE respect internationally,& in turn help our biz’..-don’t say Obama tried being nice & it didn’t work,cuz Obama is HATED in the mid-east by muslims,& has started 3 new wars there,despite building up existing ones..so fox is jumping on the establishment bandwagon again,by attacking the only candidate,Paul, who would audit the fed.reserve,ignore the U.N/agenda 21,& only fight on the advice of CIA and generals,wars that were in OUR best interest,not someone elses on our dime..no Paul is right again,& the media is trying to distract the sheeple w/frivolous arguments,& arguments that only make Paul look better,&yes he does understand that Islam can be evil
Report Post »The10thAmendment
Posted on August 15, 2011 at 12:10am@mr anarchy
Posted on August 14, 2011 at 11:14pm
ron paul is for the european class system … he is about anti american as they come..
he is not a constitutionalist.. he is a austrian school of economics.. and politics kinda guy..
sorry i like ron paul but he is about as american as marxists are…..
americans left that whole class system over in europe…but ron paul wants it…
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I would recommend about ten thousand books on American history. Ron Paul represents the Constitutional Founders so closely that he would melt into their philosophy seamlessly.
Word of advice, let go of the lysergic acid diethylimide – 25. Being in a delusional state of mind hampers logical thinking. LSD – 25 tends to cause a lapse in cognitive functions. Clearly you’re tripping. Either that or your mom and dad dropped you on your head as a kid and followed their failure up with large doses of psychotropics.
Report Post »stopspendingourmoney
Posted on August 15, 2011 at 12:20amAllen West WHAT A BIG DISAPOINTMENT HE HAS BECOME..
Report Post »lobster
Posted on August 15, 2011 at 1:24amThere are only two departments authorized by the Constitution, the military and the post office. Why is the post office supposed to be a profit center when there isn‘t any other agency expected to pay it’s own way. I.E. education, energy commerce, HHS, FDA, Interior, ad nauseum. BTW the post office does do a good job on first and priority mail contrary to popular opinion
Report Post »phil1765
Posted on August 15, 2011 at 1:33amJediusetheforce
Report Post »Sorry dude but you are missing a few things here, the military is one of the few things that the government is supposed to do, social security, welfare, food stamps and seemingly unending unemployment is not. Having 10 layers of beauracracy for everything under the sun is not good government it is just wasteful. Your appreciation for the military and what they have done for you and yours is apparent, but your welcome anyway, we don’t need your applause or appreciation.
Viper1
Posted on August 15, 2011 at 2:25amThis country has tried isolationism before and it ended the first time with World War I. Then we almost did it again during and before with a man named Wendel Willkey ,(I apologize I am not quite sure of the spelling of his last name, but not for what he stood for), I am afraid that Ron Paul is from another place altogether,(maybe another planet), and his form of isolationism is more dangerous than anything that we have seen before. As much as it pains me to agree with him on anything, I do agree that we have too many military bases overseas, however, some are better than none. Korea, Japan, Germany if I am not losing my mind we either won those wars or at least signed a form af peace treaty over fifty years ago. We got our butt kicked in Vietnam, but we didn’t put thousands of troops on the border just in case they did something stupid so we could do something stupid in return. THE THOUGHT OF LETTING iRAN HAVE A NUCLEAR BOMB his brain just isn’t working at all. Iran has already said that when, not if, they get a working bomb they are going to test it out on Israel. We have lifetime treaties with these people and I don’t care what his personal feelings about Israel are the President has to stand by those treaties. What are we going to say when the bomb goes off anywhere in Israel, oops! sorry they had the same right as everybody else does to own a nuclear weapon. If you are going to be the leader for one of the most powerful nations on this earth your vision can’t be set
Report Post »RepubliCorp
Posted on August 15, 2011 at 2:46amRon Paul in all his glory http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oJcnoDfFWhM&feature=related Now tell me I am seaming…….
Report Post »UrsaMajor
Posted on August 15, 2011 at 6:04am“Being in the military 20+ years makes you part of the big government that you so highly pledge your allegiance. Your words are like the air between my hair.”
But, being part of the Polictical Machine for 35 YEARS gives Ron Paul a pass as being a career politician who relies on the Private Sector as a source of permanent income instead of returning to it decades ago like a true Consrvative would. YOUR words are like the air caused from too much Taco Bell.
Report Post »endgamer
Posted on August 15, 2011 at 7:07amRight on the money cykoaudio!
Report Post »melmatmic
Posted on August 15, 2011 at 7:28am@Adoctors,
Report Post »You are right. We usually rent those bases or rent them and provide protection like we use to do in the Phillipines.
KICKILLEGALSOUT
Posted on August 15, 2011 at 8:11amCan Israel not defend itself? Can Israel not declare war on Iran? Do you really think that is Ron Paul was President and Iran attacked Israel that we would not come to their defense? Over and over people wrongly label an “isolationist” when he is trying to get it through these INTERVENTIONISTS in our countries thick skulls that we are almost $15 Trillion in debt in 5 wars around the world, 9.1% unemployment and our country on the edge of complete collapse. How will we help even ourselves if our country collapses because we can’t focus on restoring and rebuilding OUR country for a while before we get involved in a 6th war that may collapse our country and not to mention Iran is a big country and not some small pushover country. Ron Paul is one of the few living in reality and recognizes the State of our country and that we should not on a whim continue our role as the Global Welfare/Warfare State. Besides if Ron Paul was President it would be up to congress to make a declaration of war anyways because he lives by the Constitution. We must support Ron Paul and spread the word the best we can to support him. You want evidence he is the one who should be elected? Just look at how much media coverage he gets! That should be your clue right there that the establishment crooks will do anything they can to get you to not support Ron Paul.
Report Post »smithclar3nc3
Posted on August 15, 2011 at 8:12amMr West is right we don’t need Paul in the white house we need him in the treasury. The man’s stance on defense is weak at best…..Buy
Report Post »when it comes to the economy he’s tight as a laser.
To whom ever beat Obama Ron Paul For Treasury
Arcangel Michael
Posted on August 15, 2011 at 8:43am@Okie
YOU ARE WRONG! The fact that you would quote that liar Joe Wilson is evidence of your ignorance about that whole affair. Here are the facts as proven in the link I provided. Wilson was sent to Niger in Feb 2002 but before he left he was given talking points, the first of which was the CIA wanted Wilson to find out if Niger had ever been approached by other nations who were looking to buy uranium. When Wilson arrived in Niger he interviewed a former Prime Minister named Ibrahim Mayaki who told him that yes, an Iraqi delegation had approached him in June of 1999 looking to buy uranium. Wilson returned home, and wrote his infamous op-ed, “What I Didn’t Find In Africa.” But Wilson never mentioned what that very credible former Prime Minister had told him, that Iraq tried to buy uranium from Niger. Why didn’t Wilson mention that it his article? IRAQ TRIED TO BUY URANIUM FROM NIGER IN 1999…YOU DEAL WITH IT! Whether or not WMD was found in Iraq is irrelevant, the fact remains that Hussein was trying to buy uranium in 1999. The war was justified! Joe Wilson and his wife Valerie Plame are liars, both of them, and the New York Times was their get away driver!
Report Post »dakealo
Posted on August 15, 2011 at 8:45amWho says Islam is evil and dangerous? Your TV?
Report Post »Moron
schmite123oh
Posted on August 15, 2011 at 8:48amWow, I think people underestimate Dr. Paul’s stance on foreign affairs. He IS a non-interventionist, NOT an isolationist, you telling me he cares so much about this country to try and take down the FED and abide by the Constitution WORD for WORD yet you think he would ignore the part in the constituition to defend this Great Nation? I think you would be surprised, this man has character and honor. Iran wants to invade not nuke. Do voters seriously agree with almost every point of a candidate and take a few disagreements and then write them off??? Seriously are voters that nieve? This man Paul is the closest to a constititional God Fearing president we have had in my lifetime. Grow up people! I bet the voters could find a few loopholes in each of your political ideals, just remember the definition of ideal, we have to stay practical and realistic. Ron Paul 2012.
Report Post »harryt17
Posted on August 15, 2011 at 9:32amPeople see past west’s lies now in being a so called tea party representative! He works for the establishment and his military industrial complex buddies! He talked a good game but his actions say another! He voted for that horrible debt increase and to extend the patriot act that takes our rights away for this so called security! No one should give ur rights up for security! Our forfathers warned us about this! As well as ur guns! People need to wake up and see the real enemy and its from within on both sides! Anyone who voted for those 2 bills should tell you who not to vote for in the upcoming elections! And we need alot of cleaning to do! We have to get real honest americans who wont get bought of by lobbyist in dc. God bless our country in this tough time! Paul is the only honest man in the field if u would only stop falling for the war propaganda and learn real history.
Report Post »techengineer11
Posted on August 15, 2011 at 9:36amWhile disappointing I’m not surprised to see the hypocrisy coming from the Neo-Cons on the Blaze. As I’ve often said, I was raised in a Conservative household and became a Republican in my teen years because they were far more analytical, reasonable, and pragmatic in their approach to everything; however, this new Neo-Con plank in the Republican Party has simply exploded on the scene out of nowhere demanding a turning away from our limited Constitutional form of Gov’t and it’s being encouraged by the likes of FOX News, Beck, Hannity, Limbaugh, Wilcow etc and I’d be remiss if I didn’t add the fact that Rupert Murdoch is an Israeli citizen.
This plank is bordering on treason to the US Constitution! While they accurately proclaim the new health care law unconstitutional, they justifiably are sickened by the Federal Gov’t desire to teach little Jimmy and Susan how to use condoms in their preteen years, and are rightfully indignant of the Fed’s encroachment into every aspect of our personal lives they seem to have little problem with dropping 5 ton bombs on the homes of unsuspecting women, children, and pets in Iraq, Libya, or Afghanistan.
For the life of me, I just can’t grasp this enormous level of hypocrisy in their reasoning. I understand there are those in the Media and with AIPAC which have their own self interests in eliminating and destabilizing every country across the Middle East which doesn’t meet their standard of tolerance and
Report Post »techengineer11
Posted on August 15, 2011 at 9:42amthey use their Media to promote their interest while confusing and misleading American Patriots; yet, I thought we were the more reasonable and analytical people in this country. This assumption of mine is being tested. I realize that FOX and other Media is playing off of our Patriotism and let’s face it Republicans are by and large far more Patriotic than Democrats who are only interested in the success of their Welfare State but fellow Republicans we must put our “thinking” caps and not fall prey to this propaganda.
Let’s begin to analyze this foreign policy which has been in place primarily since 9-11 but in actuality it goes back much further even back to the days of WW1 and WW2. There’s no way to do this complicated topic justice on a blog such as this but let’s highlight some of the more prescient points concerning the Middle East.
1.The Middle East is primarily Islamic while the West is primarily Christian. Going back even further Muslims attacked the Christian West in ancient times which led to the Crusades.
2. The Middle East was a strategic area in both WW1 and WW2 as a result of their oil reserves.
3.The Allies conquered the Middle East to some degree and put in place our puppet Gov’ts following WW1 and WW2 in order to serve our interests not the interests of the people of the Middle East.
4.They began to reject our puppet Gov’ts in the 60s and 70s, they grew more hostile to our meddling in their lands, and finally begin to dem
Report Post »techengineer11
Posted on August 15, 2011 at 9:45amand that we leave.
Now that’s a Foundation which we must consider before entering into a discussion on the Middle East. We can’t simply start at 9-11! Moreover, I excluded on major point. The creation of Israel after WW2 and all that it entails. While most in the West support Israel and are steeped in a natural disdain for Muslims, this is our starting point not 9-11.
As I’ve stated many times I’m not a supporter of Islam. I hate it but I’m not one to go poking sticks in a Hornet’s nest. If the Hornets come to me that’s a different story. Ron Paul is not weak on Defense he’s just Pragmatic! We can’t meddle in the Middle East for 75 years and then become indignant when they finally launch a successful attack upon America but suppose we do start at 9-11.
Let me ask you, after spending over a Trillion dollars in Iraq which we had to borrow on our Credit Card, after suffering the death or maiming of 10s of thousands of our youth, 100s of thousands of innocent Iraqis, suffering relentless attacks upon our Freedoms and Liberties at home, and yet it’s not over still because at any moment they could blow up a building, mall, or elementary school in this country… In the meantime we will be withdrawing from Iraq next year. Was it worth it? Will Iraq become a Republic now or even a Democracy? I don’t think so but if they did was the price worth it while considering that the War is not over from their perspective?
Was there not a better way? A
Report Post »chezhockey
Posted on August 15, 2011 at 9:49amWe can fight them over there, or we will surely fight them over HERE! which is your choice?
Report Post »imreddog
Posted on August 15, 2011 at 9:50amI have some questions for West and those who think that he is correct. Should we nuke Iran to keep them from developing nuclear weapons? How else do you think that we are going to stop Iran? Why don’t we nuke China? China already has nuclear weapons, and thanks to Clinton, they have the ability to strike anywhere in the U.S. with them. Some that are high up in the Chinese military have already indicated that China is going to strike the U.S. Contrary to propaganda, China is not our friend and they are designing and building weapons to use against us in a future war. China has already made electronic strikes against the U.S.
Report Post »I see people everywhere, including on these sites, that are whining that we should get rid of Obama and the Republican Rinos… then they attack Ron Paul, THE ONLY CANDIDATE THAT STANDS FOR THE CONSTITUTION and has for many years stood unwaveringly for the government abiding by the Constitution. Yeah, you say you want someone that will abide by the Constitution and then you vote for MORE OF THE SAME… ANOTHER RINO. To those who do, I say, “are you that stupid are that much of a liar?”
TheWholeTruth
Posted on August 15, 2011 at 9:55amLet’s gets some facts inserted here please.
RP is not an ‘isolationist’ : Isolationism is a foreign policy adopted by a nation in which the country **refuses to enter into any alliances, foreign trade or economic commitments, or international agreements*** in hopes of focusing all of its resources into advancement within its own borders while remaining at peace with foreign countries by avoiding all entanglements of foreign agreements.
He is a non-interventionist: Political rulers should avoid entangling alliances with other nations and avoid all wars not related to direct territorial differences (self-defense). Seems pretty Constitutional to me, kinda what our Founders WARNED us about. Maybe that’s why the Constitution only grants funding of a Standing Army for TWO YEARS? We were to STAY OUT of ‘entangling alliances’ and wars outside our own borders. Hmmm
“Everyone else has them so why not Iran?” Let’s think about this rationally. Did you not hear him (RP) say that the CIA has the same information on the ‘whys?’ probably not. Here’s the deal people. WE ARE a great nation who has lost her way. We became GREAT because we minded our own business and stayed out of foreign entanglements. We‘ve become an ’Imperialist’ country.
Report Post »Do you REALLY think that other countries can’t take care for themselves? We have the technology to disrupt any nuke in flight as do others. Iran is so far behind our defensive capability it’s laughable. I could say more but
techengineer11
Posted on August 15, 2011 at 9:59ammore Pragmatic way?
What about Afhganistan? Was there not a better way? A more efficient way? Did we have to occupy the Nation? Could we not have accomplished the very same thing with one aircraft carrier without the waste of money and loss of American life?
And God forbid we actually step back and look at the loss of innocent life on the Iraqi side Afhganistan side or dare I say Libya side. Many on here claim to be Christians. My god do you not see what we are doing to those people? It’s nice that we are a Superpower but will we always be? 100 years from now? Do you want to be treated like we treated these people in the Middle East? Would you like your family and pets slaughtered with 5 ton bombs because your leader did something objectionalbe to the current Super Power?
OMG at the level of Hypocrisy from you people I’m ashamed of you. I’m ashamed of the ignorance and lack of intelligence I find on this board of Neo-Cons. You have bought a lie! A lie propagated by Beck, Hannity, Limbaugh and FOX News!
Once again it pains me to say it but it appears that Ron Paul is the only man in this race with the Integrity, Wisdom, and allegiance to the US Constitution. He’s the oly one that will use the US Military to defend the Borders of the USA and not the interests of AIPAC and others in the Middle East.
It’s just shameful that the Neo-Con wing of the Republican Party has stooped to this level. Such a disgrace and stain upon our Founding Fathers!
Report Post »In a Bunker
Posted on August 15, 2011 at 10:32amAmen!
Report Post »SimpleTruths
Posted on August 15, 2011 at 10:34amOKIE FROM MUSKOGEE
Report Post »You have no right to speak for “Our Founders”. If you read your history the Founders of this country were not in agreement about very many things. Some we’re isolationists, some had the foresight to recognize the need to establish relations with foreign nations for trade, protection, etc. This country was established and the constitution written as a result of countless compromises and negotiated agreements. THAT is what we need to learn from “Our Founders”.
affinnity
Posted on August 15, 2011 at 10:56amI agree with everything you said but I still respect Ron Paul and he has a lot of good ideas to help America survive socialist multiculturalism. We need Libertarians like Paul to remain the greatest nation in the world. Why are we conservatives arguing among ourselves?
Report Post »american1st
Posted on August 15, 2011 at 11:08amoh boy…. the media uses the word isolationist and now its a talking point …do the neocons here not read the posts right above their own??? Ron Paul is a “non interventionist” learn the difference!!! it is a big difference and an important one…..
Report Post »you are making your self’s look about as smart as dems look when they suggest raising taxes will create jobs….
if you have a good argument against a non internationalist foreign policy make it…. but as long as you keep up the isolationist lie you are basically making “a cats are bad because they have feathers argument” dumb dumb dumb
TheWholeTruth
Posted on August 15, 2011 at 11:08amQui` bono? (who benefits?)..”.Now this conjunction of an immense military establishment and a large arms industry is new in the American experience. The total influence — economic, political, even spiritual — is felt in every city, every Statehouse, every office of the Federal government. We recognize the imperative need for this development. Yet we must not fail to comprehend its grave implications. Our toil, resources, and livelihood are all involved. So is the very structure of our society.
In the councils of government, we must guard against the acquisition of unwarranted influence, whether sought or unsought, by the military-industrial complex. The potential for the disastrous rise of misplaced power exists and will persist. We must never let the weight of this combination endanger our liberties or democratic processes.”D.D.Eisenhower.
.”As we peer into society’s future, we — you and I, and our government — must avoid the impulse to live only for today, plundering for our own ease and convenience the precious resources of tomorrow. We cannot mortgage the material assets of our grandchildren without risking the loss also of their political and spiritual heritage. We want democracy to survive for all generations to come, not to become the insolvent phantom of tomorrow.” Eisenhower
In everything we must as that question “Who benefits?” Do that and your eyes will open fully.
Report Post »On another note. Is Iran’s leader crazy YES but others CAN and WILL handle it.
freeus
Posted on August 15, 2011 at 11:26amI am with you on this one, Rep. West.
Report Post »Cause4Liberty
Posted on August 15, 2011 at 11:49am…NEWS FLASH… Iran has been working towards a nuclear weapon for years now. During Bush, and continuing during Obama. Do you think either Bush or Obama has stopped Iran from continuing the process towards a nuke? No. Do you believe that as soon as Ron Paul gets in, Iran will have a nuke? Thats bent and twisted. Iran will get a Nuke without the approval by the US president. Let the UN take care of sanctions. Why is it our job to police the world and tell what other countries can or cannot do. China has Nukes! Pakistan, where osama was, has nukes! Russia has nukes! Israel is not the US. We support them and help defend them, but Israel is not a state located under the United States. They have their own ‘star wars’ defense program, they can handle Iran by themselves. We are in Afghan, Iraq, Pakistan, Libya, and yemen. We would DESTROY iran in a matter of minutes, If Iran even Attempted to do what they wish. If Ron Paul is president, he will not be able to do everything he believes in, plain and simple. Iran will still get a nuke,even if Allen west, rick perry, or Mbitchelle Bachman, gets in office. Stop the party propaganda people.
Report Post »Bill in Texas
Posted on August 15, 2011 at 12:33pmI disagree CALEBGS83. America should have bases overseas to ensure we have footholds and staging areas to take the fight our adversaries in their back yards and not ours.
I do agree that we don’t need to be the world’s policemen, and don’t need to get involved in other peoples internal problems. But these bases are necessary to protect our national interests abroad.
Granted we may not need as many bases as we currently have and that is what the Base Realignment and Closure (BRAC) process is for.
Report Post »riverdog1
Posted on August 15, 2011 at 1:12pmmr west is a fool.
Report Post »jonnydoe
Posted on August 15, 2011 at 1:38pm@OKIE and TECHENGINEER
Once again, I applaud your well thought out and intelligent responses and I agree 100%.
Sadly, the Repubs and a vast majority of the TEA party have been hijacked by war mongering NeoCons who want nothing more than to continue dumping all of our money the military industrial complex.
Report Post »timej31
Posted on August 15, 2011 at 2:05pmStop paying for it with our blood and treasure.
Report Post »MONICNE
Posted on August 15, 2011 at 2:10pmThat freshman Congressman (R-Plantation) (even as an apple cheeked cutie pie) better get back in his place before criticizing a real Politician, a senior citizen, a Texan, and father of a freshman Senator!
At least Ron Paul has been a businessman his whole working life, unlike some military social benefits recipients with just 20 years under their belt.
TEA
Report Post »CRAPGIVER
Posted on August 15, 2011 at 2:53pm@CALEBGS83 OK mr. CALEBGS83 WHAT ARE YOUR CREDENTIALS,ZIONIST CRIMINAL, TO PROVE THAT, your phylosophy, regarding the CONSTITUTION OF THE UNITED STATES, AND HAVING TO DEAL WITH FOREIGN AFFAIRS, are you an enginier, high ranking millitary office, a senator , or perhaps, a congressman, or mayby, like the writter of this propaganda article MADELAINE MORGANSTEM, which by her name she has to be a zionist impostor jew, that hates christianity,and the principles that christians live by, MR. RON PAUL HAS BEEN IN CONGRESS, FOR MORE THAN 24 YRS, and his votting record has proven to the true AMERICAN PEOPLE, where the ZIONIST BLOOD TIRSTY CRIMINALS, are leading us all,, are you so stupid to understand that they have finnancialy destroyed this once great nation. when you are broke do you still, go and borow money to give away, to your boddys,and party , as if there is no tomorrow.well for these parasites that have stolen americas tax payers savings, and retirments, including jobs, they could not care a rats as@#@$s after all with all the wealth they have acoumulated, since after 2nd warld war, they can fly away as soon as the crap hits the fan, but you and all the num nuts, wont have a palce to run to, when you are broke , you have to stop all the parys , go ut and do whatever you need to do in order to survive ,but if the crap hits the fan even the ones you tought were your friends,will choose their families,over you,north east will be first pace wheremore likly, crap will hit first
Report Post »DrFrost
Posted on August 15, 2011 at 3:40pmI agree with Caleb on this one. I‘m a big fan of many of Paul’s political positions (not surprising since I’m basically a libertarian) but on foreign affairs I think he is far too naive.
Report Post »RejectFalseIcons
Posted on August 15, 2011 at 4:13pm@IntegrityFirst08 – you need to check your pretenses. Conservatism is based on three key pillars: Non-interventionalism, Individual Liberty, and Fiscal Austerity. There is a wide gap between being noninterventional and isolationist. The neocon movement eschewed non-interventionalism in order to loot the treasury via war-for-profit schemes that even presidents as far back as Abraham Lincoln warned of. A conservative does not advocate the use of force in an interventional manner, while at the same time embracing peace and ushering in prosperity wherever such things are welcome. Isolationism is the complete and total withdrawal from the world in all aspects – peaceful and warlike. I have no doubt that you and I see eye to eye on some conservative matters, but you need to examine the reasons why you do not hold the tenet of non-interventionalism as a belief.
Report Post »jb.kibs
Posted on August 15, 2011 at 4:52pmRon Paul does NOT equal Ross Perot. lame attempt.
Anyone who has actually listened to Ron Paul knows that he is the only man who makes any sense in congress. Also, the ONLY politician to stand behind what they have stated 100% of the time. He leads by example, not by force. Ron Paul is the only clear choice for president of the United States.
and anyone who says that he is too much of an isolationist, etc.. do not understand that he leaves it up to the states / people. if all the people told their congressmen, “We need to do something in [insert country here] about [insert issue here]“, they would try to do something….
he is not going to SEEK OUT to occupy and FORCE other nations like all other presidents have done in the past, with the “It’s my way or the highway, additude”. which is why everyone hates us.
He might even encourge a private sector organization to start up, which recieves funding by donation, etc, that does something about issues in other nations… it’s not illegal to form a militia… it’s not illegal to leave and return to the country. this organization could spark other organizations. they have to operate within the constitution and our laws. just saying. the government has NOT been a good solution to anything for a long time… the people are everything. Ron Pauls knows this.
Report Post »Bret
Posted on August 15, 2011 at 5:59pmSorry, Ron Paul is right. Did you hear the applause? I am disappointed in Mr. West. The NEO-CON‘s in the GOP just don’t listen. A strong National Defense starts at our borders, not Afghanistan’s…
Report Post »thepatriotdave
Posted on August 16, 2011 at 12:04amRed Meat
Report Post »Posted on August 14, 2011 at 1:54pm
I’m still waiting for West to introduce some conservative legislation. Until then, he can eff off.
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That’s not even a logical post. Please show me all the Conservative legislation that all the other Freshman Reps have presented.
Way too many people, have been listening to a segment of the Tea Party that may destroy the one good political movement this country has had in many deacdes. I’m talking about the loud-mouth-do-nothings that like to attract an audience on their favorite Tea Party site, They use nothing but bravado and thmping their chests like wild eyed Gorillas in heat. These braggarts are going to split the Tea Party in a way that only the progressives will love. Instead of using clear thinking, common sense, and logic, they say things like “they should have held out for Cut, Cap & Balance” and claim that those that didn’t are corwards and traitors. For one, Allen West is NOT a traitor. In fact he did the responsible thing by voting YES for the debt ceiling bill. All those that disagreee need to get a grip on reality. If they had held out for a better deal, or did nothing, as some have suggested, the USA would have defaulted. As it turns out, with the deal they cut we only got our credit rating lowered. If we had defaulted we would have had financial armegeddon and the Dems would have rightfully blamed us and we would have handed Obama 4 more years on a p
Romes944
Posted on August 16, 2011 at 11:05amPAUL is fringe….. and his rabid followers ought to be institutionalized. End of story.
Report Post »Okie from Muskogee
Posted on August 16, 2011 at 1:05pm@PatriotDave
Michelle Bachmann said she would allowed default and it was a good thing. Are you against Bachmann?
The only persons splitting FROM the TEA party are those siding with Progressives of the Right. Remember, they are in both parties.
Allen West is a sell out
Voted for more spending
Against defunding Obama care
For the TSA
And then calls the TEA party crazy. Allen West told the establishment Republicans he will drive the car for their mission. We are seeing that first hand.
@Romes944
Progressives are all for rounding people up. Might want to rethink your train of thought there.
Report Post »Leetron
Posted on August 14, 2011 at 1:34pmRon Paul is a lunatic. Or, perhaps I’ll be a bit nicer to Mr. Paul. He is like that uncle you don’t invite to your home because he has “issues.”
Report Post »quickstudy
Posted on August 14, 2011 at 1:39pmsmear often?
Report Post »escape_from_socialism
Posted on August 14, 2011 at 1:42pmYep. Mrs. Bachmann is better choice cuz she was a tax collector and anybody can by executed if they don’t agree.
Report Post »Viet Vet
Posted on August 14, 2011 at 1:43pmOn the mark Leetron!
Report Post »ShyLow
Posted on August 14, 2011 at 2:30pmRon Paul is 100% right…Allen West is a black John McCain with a little more knowledge of military history…he is a progressive,neo-con…He would not vote to defund Obama care…and he voted to extend the Patriot Act…like I said…progressive,neo-con…may as-well vote for Obama again…if Obama was in the military and did the same act of bravery,you would not be able to distinguish him from Allen West
Report Post »101
Posted on August 14, 2011 at 2:32pm@Leetron
Report Post »It’s Congressman Paul or Dr Paul to you, show some respect the man has earned it!
Scottsman
Posted on August 14, 2011 at 3:03pmOk, I have a question to ask all those Ron Paul haters and other Presidential candidates “How would you stop Iran from acquiring nuclear weapons?”
Last time I checked, there have been international sanctions to stop Iran, but they are still building!
How would you stop Iran?
Report Post »101
Posted on August 14, 2011 at 3:38pm@Scottsman
I believe that is UN sanctions because Russia & China are not members of the UN …
Russia supplies Iran with uranium and helped build their centrifuges also refines their oil (gasoline). China supplies them with food, weapons & money (Chinese note, not US) for oil.
The US & Iran are both members of the UN. http://www.un.org/en/members/
Go Ron Paul 2012
Report Post »The10thAmendment
Posted on August 14, 2011 at 7:13pm@Leetron
Posted on August 14, 2011 at 1:34pm
Ron Paul is a lunatic. Or, perhaps I’ll be a bit nicer to Mr. Paul. He is like that uncle you don’t invite to your home because he has “issues.”
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But I can guarantee that the poker boys never forget to ask your mom to their home. Every poker party needs a center socket.
realjohn
Posted on August 15, 2011 at 10:52amI am not into name calling but I think the US, when it practiced isolationism seemingly espoused by Mr Paul in the early 1900‘s and 1930’s, found out quickly what the results would be. World Wars in both cases.
And in both cases we had to be dragged in kicking and screaming or wait until millions had died and/or got directly attacked before we reacted. If we had strategic bases before we got pulled in, both wars would have ended a lot quicker. When I was in the service, I served with NORAD (in Cheyenne Mountain) and SDC (Space Defense Command) for two years. I was attached to a multinational force from twelve countries – here in the US. Those multinational forces (now called UN forces) are still stationed here.
In ‘67 I served in one of our co-opted bases in Turkey during the Greek-Cypriot problems . Our presence there stopped what could have been a lot worse. The trickle down effect between two seemingly insignificant entities would reverberate like the ripples of a stone in a pond.
However much I agree with the candidate on other issues, due to his isolationism, I can’t give Mr Paul my vote.
Report Post »Cause4Liberty
Posted on August 15, 2011 at 1:06pm@101… I think you may need to check the link you provided. China and the Russian Federation ARE members of the UN. As a Ron Paul supporter, i think you need to check the facts prior to making a statement. It could make us look bad to these globalists, world government loving neo-cons on this site. Many Blazers are flip-flopping Beckians who would worship GB then minute he proclaimed to be God. Have a great day!
Report Post »Bret
Posted on August 15, 2011 at 6:04pmDrinkers of the right-left-military-industrial-banking-oligarchy-police-state sponsored Kool-aid are the crazy people…
Report Post »Trufreedom
Posted on August 15, 2011 at 9:09pmOnly if following the constitution, allowing man to rule himself, building a strong currency(that can’t be manipulated by banksters), allowing states to actually govern themselves, and keeping politicians from enforcing their value systems onto your life (Bachman, Santorum), and not pretending to be World Police is considered lunacy. And no a gold standard does not actually have to have gold, it can be based on a multitude of assets held by the government so long as it keeps them from devaluing the currency.
Report Post »thepatriotdave
Posted on August 16, 2011 at 2:28amRon Paul also wants an open border between mexico/USA/canada. Another words, he’s an advocate for suicide!
Please email Allen West and ask him to run for President…
Report Post »https://forms.house.gov/west/webforms/contact-form.shtml
It’s time for real leadership in D.C.
WhoIsTheCoon
Posted on August 14, 2011 at 1:33pmAllen West shouldn’t interfere if he is not going to contend. Keep your mouth out of it we all know he can only suggest his policy.
Report Post »hickoryrat
Posted on August 14, 2011 at 1:39pmAh yes,Allan West voted to take our rights away with the patriot act.
Report Post »Who would never vote against the military-industrial complex.
Anther nwo *******.
ProbIemSoIver
Posted on August 14, 2011 at 1:47pmNo TEA PARTY patriot would EVER sign the Patriot act !!!! Allen West is a Neo-Con.
Report Post »Viet Vet
Posted on August 14, 2011 at 1:49pmhickoryrat shows why Libertarians are nutwigs!!
Report Post »escape_from_socialism
Posted on August 14, 2011 at 1:49pmWords Mr. West, words. nothing else.
Report Post »oh, and thank you for Patriot Act.
IntegrityFirst08
Posted on August 14, 2011 at 2:25pmYou think thats all Allen West has to contribute???? You Ron Paul people are CRAZY.
I think Allen West’s Bronze Star and Distinguished military service have something to say to your completely moronic comment. All you have to do is look into his background for 30 seconds to see that WHOISTHECOON is a bumbling idiot ron paul supporter.
Report Post »ProbIemSoIver
Posted on August 14, 2011 at 11:02pm@IntegrityFirst08
Report Post »lol. I think you are Allen West.
Gatekeeper
Posted on August 14, 2011 at 1:33pmRon Paul is dangerous
Report Post »badbarber54
Posted on August 14, 2011 at 1:43pmDangerous and nutty as a snickers bar. He has that far away look in his eyes. If he wins the nomination I will vote for him though. Anyone other than the purple lipped big eared kenyan marxist and his traveling freakshow of a cabinet.
Report Post »Go Michelle, Hang in there Herman!
Viet Vet
Posted on August 14, 2011 at 1:44pmHe’s nuts too!
Report Post »ProbIemSoIver
Posted on August 14, 2011 at 1:45pmNeo-cons are the most dangerous.
Report Post »IndyNWguy
Posted on August 14, 2011 at 1:46pmYes he is. The establishment R’s & D’s, dirty bankers, welfare abusers, and socialists and fascists, should consider him extremely dangerous.
Of course, if you’re a fan of America and the Constitution, he’s a pretty cool cat.
Report Post »Trufreedom
Posted on August 15, 2011 at 9:17pmDangerous? Consider this, each time the US votes in the other party, the country continues down the same path (larger govt., less freedoms, a little farther from the constitution) with each administration no matter the political affiliation. I hear from Michelle and Cain about job growth and no new taxes, but nothing in the way of repealing the Patriot Act, barring the US govt from spying on its citizens, ending all the pointless wars, shutting down the Military Industrial Complex, or preventing the banks from artificially influencing our economy. There is only one candidate up there right now preaching that sermon. Its not Rick Perry (and I’m from Tx, I don’t even like him, its the Tx legislature that runs the state here).
Report Post »JoeSchueller
Posted on August 14, 2011 at 1:32pmSo are you all saying that we should outright attack Iran because they may be developing a nuclear weapon? That was essentially the question that was posed to Paul. I can guarantee you that he sees them as a threat and would respond with force if need be; his stance is being the defender, not the offender or the aggressor.
Report Post »hidden_lion
Posted on August 14, 2011 at 1:56pmThat is what covert ops are for. We used to have a good capability, it cost’s allot less in both money and blood, and it was quiet. Now we waste time and resources with BS coalitions and bomb the snot out people, hurting many more than we intend and having to deal with trying to clean up after so we look good. It doesn’t work out well. And yes, we should attack before they are successful in detonating a nuclear device.
Report Post »Look4DBigPicture
Posted on August 14, 2011 at 1:57pmPaul clearly stated that Iran should be allowed to have nukes, since all their neighbors have nukes. What RP fails to mention is none of Iran’s neighbors have threatened to use their nukes on Iran, but Ahmadinejad has clearly stated that he wants to destroy Israel and the United States with nukes because we’re evil forces in the world. (Sounds a lot like a Hitler mentality to me. Would you give Hitler permission to have nukes?)
Report Post »sambachico
Posted on August 14, 2011 at 5:32pm@LOOK4DBIGPICTURE
The insanity of the argument is that Iran will at some point acquire nuclear technology against our wishes. Iran is full of crazies who want to do many bad things to the US and Israel, but have no real way of doing so. Why don’t we just start committing genocide now in the ME and get it over with? That‘s basically the argument used to say Iran can’t have nuclear power or weaponry. It will only be a matter of time until they make a deal w/ the soviets and acquire both nuclear technology and the means to deliver it. It’s simply a stalemate in that region. He who fires first the first shot finishes the region. As an evangelical, has God not always intervened for Israel or the Jewish people? What does the bible and your faith tell you? Is our paranoia about the goings on in that region simply a matter of our lack of faith in God to not protect Israel? Did Moses not part the sea? Did Israel not return as bible prophecy stated? Do you think this is beyond God’s control?
So let me get this straight. The US needs to wage war against Iran shortly because they are hostile towards us, after we overthrow their democratic government in 1953, we install a puppet dictator who murders, enslaves and tortures the people in the country. We installed a quasi-hitler who would do our bidding, should we not be surprized they have hostilities towards the west? We have the dept of defense, not offense. Too often we are the aggressor and bully, not the ri
Report Post »PAWatcher
Posted on August 14, 2011 at 6:27pmI think he was set up in the debate, they knew his stance can not be articulated in 1.5 minutes, and they even interupted him. I don’t give fox any credit for this debate at all. I do not agree with everything Rep. Paul states, but, he certainly did deserve more respect than he got. I feel alot of the tone on the sites are following the tone set at the debate.
Report Post »RepubliCorp
Posted on August 15, 2011 at 2:50amRon Paul >>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oJcnoDfFWhM&feature=related look at who he would vote for!
Report Post »ChicagosMonster
Posted on August 15, 2011 at 4:50am@Hidden_Lion
Yes, because waging war on a foreign country is bad, but sending a small team of military men to commit terrorist attacks (don’t play coy, that’s what direct action is) is okay. After all, its not terrorism when WE do it, it’s not aggression when WE do it.
Report Post »endgamer
Posted on August 15, 2011 at 7:02amLook what Ron Paul Would CUT! http://www.dailypaul.com/127677/abolish-these-federal-departments-agencies-programs-grants-bureaus-commissions-administrations-offices-foundations-etc
Report Post »liberalsarealiens
Posted on August 14, 2011 at 1:32pmAgreed Mr. West! Mr. Paul lives in a fantisy land. It’s a mean world out there and to be an isolationist is to ignore the dangers of that world.
Report Post »escape_from_socialism
Posted on August 14, 2011 at 1:47pm8 years of Bush and 3 Obama turn your brains into pudding, scared of anything MSM tell you.
Report Post »Show me some record of Mr.West defending Constitution as he pledge, so maybe I will listen to him.
So far he prove he against our Constitution and for NWO.
IndyNWguy
Posted on August 14, 2011 at 1:47pmFor sure! It’s far better to antagonize, threaten, and invite those very dangers into America! That foreign policy has been SO effective.
Remember how safe you felt on 9/11?
Report Post »liberalsarealiens
Posted on August 14, 2011 at 2:00pmI can only laughat both of these comments! Your both as nuts as Paul! LMAO
Report Post »IntegrityFirst08
Posted on August 14, 2011 at 2:55pm@ ESCAPE_FROM_SOCIALISM-
you wrote “Show me some record of Mr.West defending Constitution as he pledge, so maybe I will listen to him.”
Your joking me right??? Your really joking right now cause you cant be dumb enough to make a comment like this. Along with his BRONZE STAR and many other Accomadations of VALOR for his service to the united states. He also has a long list of Degrees from Private and military colleges. This is crazy what some of you “so called conservatives” think sometimes.
Almost makes me want to denounce being a conservative and being under the same scruitinty as some of you. How can I defend your comments when some liberals talk about how crazy conservatives are????? Do you see some of the comments on this site???
Report Post »Norm D. Plume
Posted on August 15, 2011 at 4:15pm@IntegrityFirst:
Great! So, he’s a decorated warrior.
Now, show us how he has DEFENDED AND UPHELD THE CONSTITUTION OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA as a legislator.
Let’s see…
1) Voted FOR the USA PATRIOT Act extension.
2) Voted AGAINST defunding ObamaScare.
3) Would gladly continue fighting UNDECLARED WARS.
Three strikes, and he’s out.
(By the way, you do know that only the Congress can declare War, right? And that a State of War is a specific thing, right? And that an “authorization for the use of force” is NOT a Declaration of War, right? And that the only way our Founders wanted to see our troops going overseas to fight, is in the event of a declared War, right?)
Report Post »trolltrainer
Posted on August 14, 2011 at 1:32pmI guess everyone’s anger at voting yes for the debt ceiling things has dissipated? A whole WEEK later?
Lol.
Not that I held any anger at West, I understand why he voted as he did, though I disagreed with him. Still, all y’all were out for blood, y’all wanted his head!
I wish West would run…
Report Post »YepImaConservative
Posted on August 14, 2011 at 1:31pmAllan West has realized what most Conservative Republicans should realize about about Ron Paul… he’s a RINO. He’s no Republican, he‘s a friggin’ Liberal-tarian carpet ******. Libertarians are the “nucking futs” of the Conservative right (fringe) and the more that people know about him and his fruit-looped arrogant following, the more they will realize that the Libertarians are no better than the Code Pink ladies who they are pretty much aligned with.
Report Post »YepImaConservative
Posted on August 14, 2011 at 1:33pmLOL, they ********** the word Baggggggger. Carpet Baggggggger
Report Post »ProbIemSoIver
Posted on August 14, 2011 at 1:43pmI am really on a time crunch today, so I have to make this short. Where does it say in the Constitution we are to be the world‘s police and tell them what they can and can’t do ???? Do we dis-arm Russia, China or North Korea? No we just bully the weaker Nations. Ever hear of the Military Industrial Complex?? That is a Much bigger threat to our Safety, Liberty and Country than Iran is. I am tired of trying to explain this basic, academic point to people who must have I.Q.s of about 40.
Report Post »Viet Vet
Posted on August 14, 2011 at 1:46pmWell-stated Yepi!!
Report Post »YepImaConservative
Posted on August 14, 2011 at 1:54pmLOL, good thing I didn’t spend 30 years of my life in that horrible Military Industrial complex.
Report Post »YepImaConservative
Posted on August 14, 2011 at 1:56pmThanks for your service “VIET VET.”
Report Post »BubbaSC
Posted on August 14, 2011 at 2:23pmReally? You going to stick to that answer? It just shows you are a possible undercover “Progressive” trying to pass off yourself as a “Conservative”. I believe you have no real understanding of the Concepts behind a “Constitutional Government” be it the US or a State Constitutions. Seems you only want to believe in certain ideas, and I defend your right to believe that, as long as you afford me the same respect. You need to read the Federalist and Anti-Federalist papers then read the US Constitution. I “FIRMLY BELIEVE” that States trump Federal, except for the few enumerated powers.
Report Post »So you may or may not like abortion, drugs, guns and ect…. That is great it is your right, and your right to fight for or against it “IN YOUR STATE”! The Feds have no business in State AFFAIRS.
YepImaConservative
Posted on August 14, 2011 at 2:48pm>BUBBA SAC. This comment mean’t for me, or you just fighting the Civil War over and over again in your own mind?
Report Post »Hickory
Posted on August 14, 2011 at 1:30pmRon Paul, in practice, is more of a policy modifier than a policy former. He tends to drift off the deep end on some issues yet, he also tends to bring us back to our conservative principles. He would not make a good president because with all that power, he would jerk us all the way to the most extreme practices. He is the right guy in the position he is in today. Col. West is a realist. He sees the forest through the trees and calls it as it is and not as someone wishes it to be. He would make a terrific SOD. The military under him would be a no nonsense organization focused on the job it has to do.
Report Post »NHwinter
Posted on August 14, 2011 at 1:27pmPray For Our Nation – YouTube – YouTube – Broadcast …A call to prayer for our nation. When ordinary people pray, extraordinary things happen. Featuring “The Lord’s Prayer” by Andrea Bocelli with the Mormon …
Report Post »http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aFZ5OnSKrxY
babylonvi
Posted on August 14, 2011 at 1:45pmSorry, but even more important than praying is getting out and voting…….and getting others out to vote as well.
Report Post »beans bullets and bandaids
Posted on August 14, 2011 at 1:57pmIt’s both…
“Pray as though everything depended on God. Work as though
everything depended on you.”
~~Saint Augustine
Report Post »bestartist
Posted on August 14, 2011 at 1:25pmthat’s for sure.
Report Post »I never took Ron Paul particularly seriously as a real, viable candidate but when I heard what he said at the debate about Iran and the bomb, I thought , “this guy is a nut!”
who do you think is the first country Iran would take out? Israel, of course.
Ron Paul, NO WAY
brandnewday
Posted on August 14, 2011 at 1:29pmI agree and he is just too darn old acting and in reality….
Report Post »escape_from_socialism
Posted on August 14, 2011 at 1:33pmIsrael can wipe off Iran with their own arsenal.
Report Post »I’m with Mr. Paul. Let them build the bomb, and then destroy them if they will try to use on us or Israel.
1TrueOne55
Posted on August 14, 2011 at 1:49pmI’ll bet that he would change his mind if he were to win the Presidency. Just about every candidate does a flip-flop after winning. Paul is a strict Constitutionalist and it is in keeping with the Constitution that he says this and he is correct on that fact, our founding fathers wanted the United Colonies to stay away from becoming a Second Colonial Empirical power. You see it in the language of our Constitution. It was not until WWI and forward that we decided to go that route and it is the Progressive Party that is pushing us past those Constitutional restrictions. The bad thing about that is that the Progressive Party started with disaffected Republican President Theodore Roosevelt.
But there is one saving grace it has been Democrats that have pushed the Progressive Policies into the public eye and every time they do. And when that has happened “We the People” have rejected the Progressive Policies as inhumane.
Report Post »ProbIemSoIver
Posted on August 14, 2011 at 1:59pmHad the Opposite effect on me !!! When Paul said We are not the world’s Police, it hit home !!! That was the second I decided I am going to vote for him. If we stopped the Afghan war would could pay China off in about 3 years or less. We went into IRAQ to continue the Military Industrial Complex’s Money machine. Without wars, these global elite, corporate powerhouses would go broke. They can’t have that. They are our Politician’s real constituents. I expect the liberals and socialists to be asleep. Not the so-called “conservatives” and TEA Party “members”.
Report Post »DeniseWS
Posted on August 14, 2011 at 1:25pmI agree w/Col West… absolutely.
@ Notavictim… I‘m sure you didn’t mean anything by it, but, ones‘ color shouldn’t have anything to do w/it at this point. We are all Americans on this point!
Report Post »neverending
Posted on August 14, 2011 at 1:24pmCongressman Allen West, as usual, is exactly right.
Report Post »escape_from_socialism
Posted on August 14, 2011 at 1:35pmSpecially with tortures and debt increase.
Report Post »SlimnRanger
Posted on August 14, 2011 at 2:06pmI advise everyone to search as much as they can about each cannidate,pray and ask for Gods help in electing the next president of this great nation
Report Post »Gloria
Posted on August 14, 2011 at 1:24pmAllen West all the way !!!
Report Post »TheGoverness
Posted on August 14, 2011 at 1:24pmYes! Thank you West!
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AJAYW
Posted on August 14, 2011 at 1:23pmAllen West a very good man, but I don’t think he can win. Ron Paul to far out there…
Report Post »BOMUSTGO
Posted on August 14, 2011 at 1:23pmWish he’d run!
Report Post »Nauss
Posted on August 14, 2011 at 10:05pmThe same Allen West who voted to raise the debt limit and continue the destruction of the US dollar? No thanks. And Ron Paul s not a “loon”
You neo-cons are losing it, and and resort to name calling, which I find hilarous. The country is becomng and opponent of invading other countries.
The soluton to Glenn Beck, Rush limbaugh and the other neo-cons is to start a war for no reason. Iran is not a threat and stop the war propoganda.
Iran=Iraq. And some of us are stll waiting to find the weapons of mass destruction in Iraq-the reason why we invaded iraq. I bet all you Glenn Beck lovers still support that war. How pathetc y
Report Post »Chuck Stein
Posted on August 14, 2011 at 11:29pmYou decry name calling while using the “neo con” term repeatedly.
Report Post »It is well known that “neo con” is the latest term to be used in place of “zionist” which, in turn,
replaced “dirty Jew.”
You are known. You are fooling no one.
John 1776
Posted on August 14, 2011 at 1:22pmExcellent point Allen! Iran is the BIG problem because the aspirations are not political, they are biblical. This guy believes he plays a role in the end times and that he needs to cover the mid-east in blood and vaporize Israel to “Hassen the coming.” Doesn’t matter if we believe in that stuff, He believes it, and we know what he is going to do once he has one or two working devices.
Report Post »livetoisrael
Posted on August 14, 2011 at 4:59pmI’d like for Our Country to have some kind of such teams: 1. President – Michele Bachmann – with the Real Common Sense & Real Belief in US Constitution; 2. VP- Ron Paul – to be restricted in his just too extremal concerns about crazy Iran; 3. Defense Secretary – Allen West – to be sometimes restricted from another side in his concerns about Iran. (Rand Paul would be good in such team too).
Report Post »& one more thing: any person who doesn’t believe that Israel is always our best ally there – probably loves some country which is not the capitalist one with free market & definitively is not US. & surely such person would be happy to see how Ron Paul’s & Allen West’s sides fight against each other. – So I‘d like for Our President to ask a confidential advice from Israel before he or she ignores Iran’s nucs or takes any military action against Iran. & I’m sure that both Ron Paul & Allen West would be glad to hear such Israel‘s advice which definitively wouldn’t be any “beggins” for money from US.
bcherry25
Posted on August 14, 2011 at 1:22pmCouldn’t agree more!!! Ron Paul has the foreign policy of a 3 year old, “if you apologize and ignore the, problem it will go away.” Anyone who thinks isolationism is the answer is just as great a fool as Paul. Ron Paul and his zealots on the extreme far right, are as dangerous as Obama and his zealots on the extreme far left.
Report Post »Viet Vet
Posted on August 14, 2011 at 1:56pmExactly!!!!
Report Post »TheBMT
Posted on August 14, 2011 at 3:30pmJust like ignorance of what he truly stands for and Paul will go away?
Non-intervention is completely different then Isolationism, yet we continue to say ISOLATIONISM.
Non-intervention means your not going to bomb the country if they dont follow your “orders”. Since we are entitled to since we are the United States….
We let N Korea get a nuke, Pakistan has nukes(AND Osama bin Laden was there), India has nukes, Israel has over 100 freaking nukes. Why is it the United States responsibility to go broke and collapse our society to invade more and more countries?
Report Post »louise
Posted on August 14, 2011 at 7:42pmRP has the foreign policy of a 3 year old..?
Report Post »His stance on foreign policy is the stance of our Constitution.
Would you guys also say that our Founding Fathers who wrote the Constitution also had the mentality of a 3 year old?
This ridiculous accusation against Ron Paul is wearing thin. People cry out for a Statesman who will uphold the Constitution. And when ONE man runs for President who WILL do exactly that….people cry foul. Why don’t you people at least be honest. what you really want is another rino.
Unbelievable.
ProbIemSoIver
Posted on August 14, 2011 at 9:10pmLook at all these people talking about how little RON Paul knows. How pathetic !! PAUL knows more about Government, World Affairs, Politics and a host of other things in his little finger than 99.9% of you clowns !!
Report Post »Did anyone notice that almost all the RON naysayers are Names I have never seen on the BLAZE ?
Media Matters ALERT !!!!!
trolltrainer
Posted on August 14, 2011 at 1:21pmWest is right. I respect Paul because he is an ideological libertarian and he stands on principle. Paul is 100% correct in everything he said. Thing is…The real world just does not work that way. This is the problem with all libertarians. They do not take into account that most people are not responsible enough to govern themselves and do the right things. You have wolves, sheep, and dogs. Cheaters, users and six time losers…We need someone in the White House that knows how to wield the power of this country. However…If/when we go to war we got to go in to win. This crap we are doing now, driving hummers up and down a road dodging IEDs, is not gaining us anything. Either win the damn thing or bring our boys home.
Report Post »YepImaConservative
Posted on August 14, 2011 at 1:36pmPaul is not 100% percent correct on everything he says. You give this feeble old fool more credit than he deserves. I’d trust him with my wallet, but not my country.
Report Post »hidden_lion
Posted on August 14, 2011 at 1:49pmThe problem is people “wielding” the power of this country…Our power should have been kept in reserve for when it is really needed, like the WW II, not squandered and spread thin like it has ever since. Every citizen should be trained and ready to be a soldier, a large standing military would not be required if we had stuck to the original plan of the founders.
Report Post »trolltrainer
Posted on August 14, 2011 at 1:51pmI see you grasped that single sentence out of my entire post and chose to comment on it! The gist of the post was that Paul is “ideologically” correct but that his views are not realistic. However…What you saw on TV was a gottcha moment that is out of context unless you understand Paul’s total worldview. You only got a small piece of the big picture. Paul is not a fool, idiot, or crackpot. He has more intelligence than you will ever even dream of obtaining…Or me either for that matter…He is well aware of the threat Iran poses.
Do I want Paul in the White House? No. Someone above says it well, Paul is suited for the job he has now. But not president.
Report Post »USNVET66-70
Posted on August 14, 2011 at 1:51pmAmen
Report Post »trolltrainer
Posted on August 14, 2011 at 1:54pmHiddenlion,
Yep!
Report Post »IndyNWguy
Posted on August 14, 2011 at 1:57pmMost people are not responsible enough to govern themselves? Did you really type that?
Jesus Henry Christ! Please don‘t walk around telling people you’re a conservative. The last thing we need is minds like yours on our side!
What a horribly ignorant thing to say. Please go back and learn a little about the founding fathers, constitution, declaration of independence, and a little US history. What was the entire f’ing point of the Constitution? Let me help you… It was the belief that man can govern himself!
Your ignorance is a perfect example of how conservatism in this country has been hijacked, misled, and almost destroyed by the GOP political machine. Your statement is an embarrassment.
Report Post »YepImaConservative
Posted on August 14, 2011 at 2:07pmLmao. What I took from your post was the thing that caught my eye the most. When Paul is pressed for an answer in a forum like the debates (we’ve seen it before), he usually goes way off the reservation INTO the “Libertarian Ideology” which is definately NOT realistic in today’s society… here and around the globe.
Report Post »Viet Vet
Posted on August 14, 2011 at 2:10pm@IndyNWguy
Trolltrainer was talking about much of the rest of the ‘world’.
Report Post »Tyr
Posted on August 14, 2011 at 2:47pmIndyNWguy
Posted on August 14, 2011 at 1:57pm
“Your ignorance is a perfect example of how conservatism in this country has been hijacked, misled, and almost destroyed by the GOP political machine. Your statement is an embarrassment.”
Yeah, only thing is MOST of the so-called Conservatives here think that freedom means THEIR idea of freedom. Freedom to have an abortion needs to be outlawed by the government. Freedom to love and marry someone and have the same rights of joint ownership, taxation, insurance, etc needs to be forbidden….again by the government. Freedom to worship as you see fit even if it involves multiple wives (like the men in biblical scripture had) is wrong and needs to be outlawed by the government. People that think like that are not Constitutionalists or Patriots. They may be zealots or hypocrites, but they don’y REALLY believe in true freedom, they believe in government that enforces their narrow view what is freedom.
Report Post »Workforit
Posted on August 14, 2011 at 3:20pmYour inner “Homer Simpson” is showing just a bit Trolltrainer… You and Cass Sunstein have breakfast together this morning or what?
The thing about Ron Paul is he is the only one to start “laying track” in the direction this country needs to go. If you think the freedom and well being of this country’s citizens is ultimately more important than the global industrial war machine… Then think and vote Dr. Ron Paul.
Could you just imagine Trollltrainer a way of life and a country that allowed you the time to educate yourself to a point that those “wolves” you spoke of were not a threat to you because YOU could see them coming a mile away?
If we get the government completely out of education you just might have a chance to learn how to protect yourself … but that is a topic for another day…
The call to “end the fed” to me is paramount. Just imagine an economy that can’t be manipulated by an elite few that print and spend “our” money anyway they like when ever they like. Can you imagine how many elite establishment dominoes that will knock over??? I can…
It is time to start letting the rest of the world take care of itself for a little while, we need to get our own house back in order. The middle east has been throwing rocks and swinging swords at each other for 3000 years or better… Why we even think we can mix oil and water is beyond me… The term “politically correct” should have a new dictionary definition attached to it… “Stupid”
Report Post »StLouis2k
Posted on August 14, 2011 at 4:07pm“The real world just does not work that way”, you say.
Here’s some reality for you. We are borrowing money in order to maintain our military presence overseas. A move towards Paul’s “crazy” non-interventionism is the only economically feasible means for maintaining a strong national defense in years to come.
If we are to come to terms with the “big secret” of our attempted domination of the world’s energy supply through force, then we must also come to terms with the destructive economic cost, and human cost, to achieve it.
Report Post »trolltrainer
Posted on August 14, 2011 at 4:45pmSheesh! Must be my name that brings out the nutjobs from both sides! Such name calling and blatant personal attacks simply because you disagree with what I say!
I do not have the time nor inclination to even begin answering such a random posting of dribble, but I do want to emphasize my point that WE are not able to govern ourselves. I said it and it is true! I know you beckerheads want to believe your leader that we are all moral and responsible…Just look around you fools! Go to a Walmart and look around you. Look at the very fact this liberal entitlement mentality has even taken root in our country.
For God’s sake, most people on the street have no idea who the vice president is let alone their own congressional representative! Everyone wants to cut government until that cut hits their own pocketbook. For the most part the people in this forum are just as stupid and idiotic as those in the hufpo forums. Call me any name you like, it shows your own ignorance.
Why is it that the one person that posts a reasonable position in the middle is the one that receives the strongest attacks from either side? To you libertarians; I respect your position and if I was just a little dumber and more blind to the world I would join you. But no, you are not realistic.
To those idiots that think I am espousing a bigger government; pizz off. But we do need A government, that is what the founding fathers intended. Study them yourselves.
Report Post »LICENSEDTOCARRY
Posted on August 14, 2011 at 1:20pmTotally agree. Tired old men don’t get elected. Take a lesson from Bob Dole and John McCain.
Report Post »ChicagosMonster
Posted on August 15, 2011 at 4:47amYes, like Ronald Reag….wait…
Report Post »GOA_AMD65
Posted on August 15, 2011 at 12:26pmFreedom is a relatively young idea and we are throwing it away!
Vote for Liberty, Ron Paul 2012.
Report Post »DrFrost
Posted on August 15, 2011 at 3:44pmIf he gets the Republican nomination I’ll vote for him. But because of his position on foreign affairs he will not be getting my vote in the Republican primaries.
Report Post »CRAPGIVER
Posted on August 15, 2011 at 7:29pm@LICENSEDTOCARRY: I have no fear for myself, but for all those,that are going through this world with their eys closed, uneble to see nor understand, that if Mr. Ron Paul don’t get chosen to become president the days for this FREE NATIONwill come to an END as we have known it, and people with license to carry will have an upper hand on all the trolls that belive in the fantasy world that the zionist been indoctrinating you for that is when people like license to carry will unload, their wisdom, on all that will cross his patt,,There was a time when age was a mark of wisdom, and integrity , however after the good indoctrination recived at all public schools since the 70′s on when parents paid thousands of dollars to have their kids indoctrinated at public anfd private schools and universitys, DUMMING THEM DOWN , to apont that now they blive in a fantacy world that will never be deliverd,unempoyment, , and desmantelization of creativity, is not enough to wake up a parasite, that belives that freedom is a right,following blind leaders, the likes of GLENN BECK RUSH, HENEDY ETC. LEADERS, that when the crap hits the fan they will be long gone.as actors they have earned all those millions of dollars, that from now on no one will ever have an opportunity to make, unemployment is caused to bring down wages, a practice done for decades, except that not with numbers like todays, america is loaded with BOMBS OF ALL KINDS OF MEGA POWER, AND THIS COWARDS, ARE AFRAID OF LITTLE IRAN,
Report Post »IndependentThinker
Posted on August 14, 2011 at 1:20pmI like Ron Paul, but on this issue West is absolutely correct. Paul’s views on foreign policy are way too extreme for the current environment. Paul is correct that we should bring the troops home, but leaving the world completely alone to create another Hitler is not wise either. As with all things, there is a balance to be struck. Not a compromise, but a balance.
Report Post »Captain Crunch
Posted on August 14, 2011 at 1:49pmI agree. West is correct. Ron Paul is having a knee jerk reaction to some of the foreign policy mistakes we have made in the past. Hindsight is 20/20. We needed to be involved in ww1, ww2, Cuba, and Afganastan to a limited degree. We probably did not need to get involved in Korea, VietNam, Iraq, Lybia. Times have changed since the time of our founders. We would be foolish to not be involved in the worlds problems because those problems would grow to find themselves on our shores. We need to use wisdom and descretion as to what we engage militarily in the world. But isolating ourselves like Ron Paul advocates is crazy. If Ron Paul was president in the 30‘s and 40’s the west coast would be speaking Japanese and the east coast speaking German until the Nazi’s and Japs went at it with each other on our mainland. Personally, I suspect the PaulBots manipulated the straw Poll in Idaho the same way they stacked the online poll here on the Blaze…by voting frequently.
Report Post »Can’t fool those of us who know how human nature is. It’s not that hard to “read minds” and make correct judgements, especially when it comes to a cultish movement which is as radical on the far right as the radical libs are on the far left.
Viet Vet
Posted on August 14, 2011 at 2:04pm@Captain Crunch…..YEP!
Report Post »Ashley
Posted on August 14, 2011 at 3:51pmAgree 100%. Wish West would get in the Presidential race. America needs someone like him. With that said, Bachmann and Santorum are my next two choices.
Report Post »sambachico
Posted on August 14, 2011 at 4:09pm“ too extreme for the current environment”
Report Post »They are viewed extreme because the media beats the war drums day in day out about middle-eastern conflicts. Israel could knock out the entire middle-east faster than you could get a pizza delivered from dominoes. This is war-mongering by the MSM at it’s finest. By this logic, you would pre-emptively go to war with any country attempting to become nuclear capable (energy or weaponry). This is why WWIII will be the longest and most devastating war in history – it will never end as our freedoms at home will be continually undermined at the paranonia of someone having a nuclear weapon. Pakistan has had nukes since the 1990′s and Israel still exists in this reality. Why would Iran be any different? They are both Islamic countries hostile to Iran, and we give billions a year to Pakistan.
StLouis2k
Posted on August 14, 2011 at 4:12pmThose of you who want America to continue projecting it’s military power around the globe are discounting the overwhelming cost and economic impossibility of what you propose. Math is not an inexact science.
Report Post »ProbIemSoIver
Posted on August 14, 2011 at 8:34pmRON PAUL is absolutely brilliant. By staying neutral, Israel will have to deal with Iran. They will dis-arm them. Paul knows this !!!! This keeps us out of it, but accomplishes the same result. How freakin’ smart is that? Who let the Dogs out? RON PAUL did. lol
Report Post »ChicagosMonster
Posted on August 15, 2011 at 4:53amNobody is advocating “leaving the world to create the next Hitler.” How many countries has Iran invaded in the last 300 years?
How many has the US? Nuff said. Quit looking for a monster abroad when we have too many skeletons to fit in our own closet. It‘s time to stop pretending that the US knows what’s best for the entire planet, all the time, no matter what, and if they don’t do what we say and think what we think, we’ll bomb them. It’s just plain unamerican.
Report Post »KICKILLEGALSOUT
Posted on August 15, 2011 at 8:24amRon Paul is NOT an isolationist, his war policy emphasizes that you should only go to war when absolutely necessary. He has said it himself. If you label Ron Paul an Isolationist he could easily label you an Interventionist, one of those people always butting into others affairs and causing problems. What is funny is that we talk about allowing Iran to develop weapons, we don’t have to aid them in doing so but they are going to do it if they want to. Sure they are a threat, but let me ask you a question. Is allowing Muslims in the United States access to buy firearms a threat? I don’t hear anyone talking about banning Muslims from owning firearms in the US because they are a threat to us in our own country? If we are going to make a stand on something it has to be on all points not just pick and choose.
Report Post »whatthecrazy
Posted on August 14, 2011 at 1:17pmI agree
Report Post »CRAPGIVER
Posted on August 15, 2011 at 5:14pmKICKILLEGALSOUT: As a Ron paul & Rand Paul, supporter, I have learned the truth, as to why, All thos so called Conservative HIPOCRITS, have not supported, Mr. Paul, is not that they don’t understand the message, he been, screemeing, about, for the last 24+ yrs. they know he is a patriot that puts America first, above and beyond any one else, even more so than Reagan, ever did,when, a clown has been indoctrinated into ZIONISM,FROM EVERY BULL PULPIT IN AMERICA, THAT ZIONIST ARE THE CHOSEN PEOPLE, WHICH IS THE GREATEST LIE EVER TOLD, TO ALL THOSE THAT CALL THEMSELVES cHRISTIANS BUT CONTINUE FOLLOWING THESE DEGENERATE, AND CRIMINAL (CONVERTED JEWS) WHICH ARE NOT EVEN OF THE STOCK OF MOSES, NOR ABRAHAM, THEY JUST WONT SEE THAT THOSE, ARE THE SAME PEOPLE DESTROYING ,THE WORLD NOT ONLY AMERICA, BECASE THEY ARE UNDER THE RADAR, protected by the same idiots that they are stealing from, and sent to many wars and have them killed and their kids too. THE TRUE JEWS,are the ones that became servants, in ISRAEL , THE TRUE JEW IS NOT ALLOWED TO HOLD AN OFFICE OF POWER, IN ISRAEL, only Zionist FROM EASTERN EUROPE,mR. pAUL HAS SAID THAT HE WOULD STOP, FINANCIAL HELP, TO ALL COUNTRIES , YES EVEN TO THE PARASITE STATE OF ISRAEL , THAT HAS BEEN MILKING THE AMERICAN TAX PAYER , SINCE 1948 AND BEFORE, That is the reason, why no body in the midle east care for them, the true jews lived along, with the muslims, since the days of JESUS CHRIST, AND LIVED IN PEACE, UNTILL THE ZIONIST INVADED THEM.
Report Post »notavictim
Posted on August 14, 2011 at 1:16pmYou got that right Col West. This black man has a real brain
Report Post »maxedout
Posted on August 14, 2011 at 1:25pmI look at West and I don’t see color….I see a very pragmatic American, with character, integrity, common sense, loyalty to America and a host of other positive traits…..all things missing in the socialist black guy in the White House.
Report Post »Trufreedom
Posted on August 15, 2011 at 9:03pmI look at Col. West and see another politician trying to build up a case to lead U.S. into another war.
Report Post »susie4dy
Posted on August 14, 2011 at 1:15pmI am with Allen West!
Report Post »docvet
Posted on August 14, 2011 at 3:47pmMe, too. The days of isolationism ended with WW II. I agree that we don’t need 70 military bases outside of the U.S. (including 2 naval bases in the Mediterranean) and closing many of them is a good idea. But with the world being “smaller”, it is better to be prepared to fight somewhere other than America.
Report Post »Furthermore, Ron Paul has the tact and diplomacy of a rabid pit bull and it is easy to start a conflict (not necessarily military) with another country just by saying the right thing the wrong way. While he does have some good ideas regarding the crucial steps that should be made, he makes me nervous.
CRAPGIVER
Posted on August 15, 2011 at 6:22pm@ MAXEDOUT: do you know what a PRAGMATIC BELIVER is a Pragmatic or pragmatist is a criminal, that belives in spending your money as long as you don touch his. that is why when a pragmatist tells yoy that he or she is a FISCAL CONSERVATIVE, BUT SOCIALISM LIVERAL, THAT IS WHAT THEY ARE TELLING YOU, AND THAT IS WHAT THEY CALL THE MIDDLE OF THE ROAD, OR COMPROMISING, THAT IS THE ZIONIST PHYLOSOPY, SPEND, THE TAX PAYERS MONEY TO CREATE EMPLOYMENT BUT JUST DON’T TOUCH my money with taxas, or for that matter, their buiness are always stared with borowed money never using their own, that way if, the buisness goes belly up, they have converted their buisness into corporations, and not be liable for anything of their own money keeping their credit intact, and go try something else untill they hit the big time buisness, all shoping malls, are borowed money , those are in many cases the ones going belly up instead of the home owners, here are tha banks screw the tax payers with all that money taken by the,the government, and given to the banks,then the banks, turn around and reposes the homes, leaving families on the street,while the Zionist parasites, having their moneyfrom the government, plus the homes reposesed then if not sold they can aford to destroy them after all they did not loose any thing, saving themselves from paying taxes to the counties/states, where the homes were,robin plain day light with out even using a gun,knife, stone or sick, that is how zionist work, WAKE UP TUR
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