Allen West to Obama, Reid, Pelosi: ‘Get the Hell Out of the United States of America’
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Rep. Allen West (R-Fla.) said Saturday President Barack Obama and other liberals should "get the hell out of the United States of America." (AP)
Rep. Allen West (R-Fla.) had a strong message Saturday for President Barack Obama, Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid, House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi and Democratic National Committee Chairwoman Debbie Wasserman Schultz: “Get the hell out.”
West made the comments during a speech at a Palm Beach County GOP event in West Palm Beach.
“This is a battlefield that we must stand upon. And we need to let President Obama, Harry Reid, Nancy Pelosi and my dear friend, chairman of the Democrat National Committee, we need to let them know that Florida ain’t on the table,” West said.
The audience was booing by the time West got to Pelosi’s name.
“Take your message of equality of achievement, take your message of economic dependency, take your message of enslaving the entrepreneurial will and spirit of the American people somewhere else,” he continued. “You can take it to Europe, you can take it to the bottom of the sea, you can take it to the North Pole, but get the hell out of the United States of America.”
As the audience cheered and many rose to their feet, West added, “Yeah I said ‘hell.’”
“This is not about 1 percent or 99 percent. This is about 100 percent. It’s about 100 percent America. And I will not stand back and watch anyone defame, degrade or destroy that which my father fought for, my older brother, my father-in-law, myself, my nephew and all my friend still in uniform,” he said.
“I will not allow President Obama to take the United States of America and destroy it. If that means I’m the No. 1 target for the Democrat Party, all I got to say is one thing: Bring it on, baby.”
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Comments (1111)
Mr.Fitnah
Posted on January 29, 2012 at 7:56amHe is something else .
Report Post »I hope the USA is around long enough for him to lead it.
Baddoggy
Posted on January 29, 2012 at 9:03amHe voted for NDAA. If they wanted to, they could lock him up without trial forever for those words. I cannot understand why such a great patriot would vote for such a law.
Report Post »Guerrino_P
Posted on January 29, 2012 at 9:04amHe is something else… Nuts.
Report Post »Devil Dog 7175
Posted on January 29, 2012 at 9:07amThe man who should have run for POTUS.
Report Post »Sirfoldallot
Posted on January 29, 2012 at 9:09amYes, these ppl he is talking about get away with idiot thinking that is not apart of USA thinking ; I to say “LEAVE” !
Report Post »Rational Man
Posted on January 29, 2012 at 9:16amRet. Lt. Col. Allen West is the only man that I WANT to vote for as POTUS.
Hate to have to hold my nose AGAIN this year…………………….
Report Post »spotcoon
Posted on January 29, 2012 at 9:16amIn comparison to the lympdyck, pos, pseudo-prez we’ve endured for too long, West is a man of integrity, honor and a gigantic pair balls!—————-’Bout Time
Report Post »Philo Beddoe
Posted on January 29, 2012 at 9:21amHe won’t let them take over America but he voted for NDAA
Report Post »LiveOak11
Posted on January 29, 2012 at 9:33amTo Geurrino-P, You are either ignorant, naive or, in my opinion, a traitor. You are, by default, added to his list of those who need to be sent away. I resent the air that you breath.
Report Post »Freedomluver
Posted on January 29, 2012 at 9:36amI think many of you praising West will regret your own words when you find yourself standing in line waiting to get into a stadium to watch your kids play a ball game, and you find yourself being pulled out of line by the DHS for a nice little NWO strip search.
Actions speak louder than words, and West has proven that he has no use for the Bill of Rights.
Anyone who would vote for someone who backs the so called Patriot Act which spits on the 4th amendment, and the NDAA that spits on the 6th, needs to ask themselves some serious questions.
Report Post »V-MAN MACE
Posted on January 29, 2012 at 9:38amI sincerely regard Allen West’s statement.
However, Mr. West should pack his bags and GTFO with those traitors Obama, Cheney, Bush, Holder, JANET Napolitano, Tim Geithner, Alan Greenspan, Ben Bernanke, All Goldman Sachs employees, the Goldman Sachs building, the Federal Reserve, Nazi cops, Nazi soldiers, the entire TSA and Homeland Security in general, etc.
Allen West is a torturer.
Report Post »bhohater
Posted on January 29, 2012 at 9:41amLots of politicians talk the talk, but those who voted for NDAA didn’t walk the walk. Those who would give up their liberty for a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty or safety. Liberty, once lost, is lost forever.
Report Post »mike_trivisonno
Posted on January 29, 2012 at 9:58amAllen West should be President.
Unlike Paul supporters, he understands the grave threat posed by Islamic Jihad.
“…He voted for NDAA. If they wanted to, they could lock him up without trial forever for those words. I cannot understand why such a great patriot would vote for such a law….
The NDAA is going to be used to extract and remove muslims engaged in Jihad and others who have falsely assumed the mantle of “American Citizen” while acting as an enemy soldier for a foreign power. I amazed at the lack of understanding exhibited by those who pretend to defend the Constitution and my Bill of Rights while at the same time offering it to our enemies as a cudgel with which to beat us into submission.
Wake up. Jihad has been brought to our shores by traitors to out country and by foreign powers. Men like Allen West are doing something about while Paul supporters weep for our enemies.
Report Post »KTsayz
Posted on January 29, 2012 at 10:07amNot only did he vote for the NDAA, he voted for Pigford – the huge redistribution of wealth scheme.
I really had hopes for this guy but fool me once, shame on you, fool me twice, shame on me.
Anyone who voted for the NDAA deserves to be thrown in the FEMA camp as a traitor.
Report Post »Sheepdog911
Posted on January 29, 2012 at 10:08amI sure do wish that he wee on the Republican ticket.
Report Post »Vechorik
Posted on January 29, 2012 at 10:09amWest is the Republican Maxine Watters. I’m ashamed both of them are in Washington.
Report Post »Freedomluver
Posted on January 29, 2012 at 10:13am@mike_trivisonno
The NDAA applies to CITIZENS, and it’s so blatantly unconstitutional that even Obama said he would not apply it as written!
Dude…who in their right mind would toss out the Bill of Rights because of some silly NWO Boogie man?
Who in their right mind would vote for giving Obama the ability to declare YOU a terrorist with no recourse?
The Constitution served us well for hundreds of years, and if you actually have so little faith in the Jury system that you will scrap it, and hand the keys for your own enslavement to some NWO shill like Obama, YOU are an enemy to the Constitution and a blind fool.
When you are standing in line to watch your kinds play a ball game and you find yourself being pulled out of line for a nice little strip search…remember…YOU VOTED FOR IT!
Those who would trade liberty for security…deserve neither.
Now quit being such a coward.
Report Post »TXPilot
Posted on January 29, 2012 at 10:15amWith great men like Gen Jerry Boykin, Allen West, and several others like them out there, we ended up with a pansy Communist?…..what the hell?
Report Post »ProbIemSoIver
Posted on January 29, 2012 at 10:15amlol. The BOOGIEMAN is gonna get ya !!!!
UNREAL.
We have not had an American Die on our shores at the hands of a jihadist since 911 with the exception of the nut in OUR military.
More people in America Have died from Bee Stings.
Lets Wage war on the BEE !!!!!!!
I am tired of these tin-foil hat wearing nut jobs talking about a non-existent threat.
Muslim Threat is a CONSPIRACY THEORY. lol.
I Carry a gun (or 2 or 3). I will take my chances with the “BOOGIEMAN”, to get my freedoms back !!!
BOO !!!!
Report Post »oldoldtimer
Posted on January 29, 2012 at 10:17amPeople must understand NDAA was set up as a trap. You voted no you were against the troops and if you voted yes you were for destroying the constitution. That portion of the bill should never have been included but it was because that is the only way the Dems could get it passed. NowObama can order the arrest and detention of any American citizen by the military and you have NO rights. Scared yet?Now where did I see that before? USSR!
Report Post »MS-GlenNBC
Posted on January 29, 2012 at 10:17am@DEVIL DOG 7175
If West was running for President Beck would be calling him a Progressive and trashing West.
Only Romney…… on this site.
Report Post »booger71
Posted on January 29, 2012 at 10:20amAllen West is a torturer.
Report Post »==================
Who and how many did he torture. Water boarding is not torture.
CleanUpAisle2013
Posted on January 29, 2012 at 10:20amI have a dream … that one day this man will be our President.
Report Post »The_Almighty_Creestof
Posted on January 29, 2012 at 10:24am“I will stand by…”
Um, you already did when you refused to run for POTUS. More big mouth talk without having to risk anything.
Just another Palin & Christie…talking their bad talk but too gutless to walk the walk.
Put your name on the ballot sir…or shut up. You can do all you need to without these speeches. They accomplish nothing if you won’t get in the race.
Report Post »Freedomluver
Posted on January 29, 2012 at 10:28am@booger71
Would you consider being forced to helplessly watch your child being stripped searched by the DHS right in front of your very eyes a form of torture?
I would, and West voted to allow such insanity rather than proclaiming the fact that it is unconstitutional.
WAKE UP!
Report Post »mike_trivisonno
Posted on January 29, 2012 at 10:35am“…We have not had an American Die on our shores at the hands of a jihadist since 911 with the exception of the nut in OUR military…..”
You are deceived. There have been many jihad attacks on American soil and on American interests all over the world.
Your ignorance of Jihad is a boon to our enemies.
Report Post »justangry
Posted on January 29, 2012 at 10:37am@Oldoldtimer, Explain to me how voting against the NDAA would be considered “against the troops”.
Report Post »Sirfoldallot
Posted on January 29, 2012 at 10:38amHelp me out here . Wat is UDAA , & wat proof do u have & how is this going 2 effect my freedom ?
Report Post »mike_trivisonno
Posted on January 29, 2012 at 10:42am“…The NDAA applies to CITIZENS, and it’s so blatantly unconstitutional that even Obama said he would not apply it as written!….”
Wow. Do you even know what Islamic Jihad is, how it is advanced, and the methods of deception employed to force non-musims into ever lower levels of submission to Allah?
I am stunned by the lack of understanding exhibited by otherwise rational people when it comes to Jihad. It as if they are utterly blind to the danger even when presented with centuries of historical evidence proving the violent nature of Islamic culture.
The children of Belsan would have word with you.
What love of Jihad to you have? What is about Islam that has blinded you to the existential enemy we have foolishly allowed to be garrisoned right now on American soil?
Report Post »justangry
Posted on January 29, 2012 at 10:42am@Mike, Whether or not you like it, Muslim Americans are garunteed the same god-given rights as the rest of us. There are bad muslims, no question, but you’re kind of a scary dude saying all of them think the same way, so none of them have any rights. That line of thinking is no different from the Jihadists. You might worship a different god, but you’re every bit as creepy.
Report Post »Sirfoldallot
Posted on January 29, 2012 at 10:56amI Googled UDAA & there is alot in this bill. I did not not see how this will take away my freedom. Nor is Col. Allen West dumb so u need 2 find something else to get ppl 2 follow ur mouthy azz.
Report Post »mike_trivisonno
Posted on January 29, 2012 at 10:59amPeople like you are incredibly dangerous in that your ignorance of Islamic culture and Jihad allows it to proceed more smoothly.
Muslims cannot be citizens of the country in which they reside.
The goal of the muslims is not to participate in American culture or to defend the Constitution or my Bill of Rights but rather to destroy them and replace them with Islam and Sharia.
You have given them the cloak of citizenship and they will use it to kill you, and destroy this nation.
Read some history and you will find that Jihad process has been employed to bring down civilization after civilization.
Report Post »Secret Squirrel
Posted on January 29, 2012 at 10:59am.
VP West? I like it.
Of course, it can’t happen with Romney, because he hates the Tea Party.
Report Post »justangry
Posted on January 29, 2012 at 10:59am@Sirfoldalot, The NDAA used language that sounds somewhat reasonable, but it’s vague and subject to interpretation. It removes habeous corpus which is against the 5th amendment. There is no proof that it’s intended to stip away YOUR liberty, and most likely won’t be used to do so presently. That being said, the right to habeous corpus comes from god (or natural law) and no man should be able to take it away. There‘s a reason why it’s in the Bill of Rights. To me it’s a VERY, VERY big deal. The potential for abuse by a corrupt politician is mind boggling, to say the least.
Report Post »Freedomluver
Posted on January 29, 2012 at 11:06am@mike_trivisonno
The biggest threat we face here at home are folks like you who trash the Bill of Rights.
I’m much more fearful of giving the likes of Obama the power to declare YOU a terrorist, with no avenue to address your innocence. You may well end up in some god forsaken prison with ZERO evidence against you, for being labeled a TEA party terrorist, or one who quotes the Constitution too much.
One would think a guy like you would see the dangers of the NWO the powers that be wish to force on you, and yet you wish to hand them the tools to do exactly that.
The only thing we have that stands between us and total tyranny is the Bill of Right, and like a fool you praise the very ones who are pushing us towards our own enslavement.
Sadly…you bought into their Boogie Man and welcome the NWO, even though you fail to see the obvious.
Now don’t you have something better to do…like perhaps joining the DHS in searching for monsters in the form of 88 year old grandmothers who are in need of a good old American strip search?
Report Post »db321
Posted on January 29, 2012 at 11:15amThank You Allen West for saying what Millions of American’s want to say – Thanks for being our voice!
Report Post »UGrev
Posted on January 29, 2012 at 11:16am@BADDOGGY, thanks for reminding of me about that. I love his standing up to the liberals, but he he has shown us his true colors by voting for the NDAA: He’s a military man, we get that. But more than just that, he supports the military machine world wide.
For that simple reason alone, I cannot support him for president. I do not think we need to police the world. I’m tired of hearing “Save us you American bastards!” as the self help rejecting complainers of the globe whine about how we’re the bad guys but want our money at the same time.
Report Post »Freedomluver
Posted on January 29, 2012 at 11:16am@Sirfoldallot
Really? You must have reading comprehension problems, so allow me to illustrate this fact.
Let’s say Obama declares YOU a terrorist and you find yourself in Guantanamo. How would you fight your illegal and unconstitutional detention based on the NDAA?
Please…do tell.
Report Post »ProbIemSoIver
Posted on January 29, 2012 at 11:29am@Mike
I am fully aware of a long-term threat of a worldwide caliphate ideology.
I agree that when Muslims are a majority in a land, Shariah Law will be imposed.
I acknowledge that there are Peaceful (liberal leaning) Muslims, but I also understand that they do not stand up to the smaller number of “Radicals” which are just conservative muslims.
Our Corrupt Corporation that calls itself our government had it’s CIA (crooks in action) train and supply arms to Al Qaeda in the 1980′s to fight the Soviets in Afghanistan. We also Financed them.
After we formed a relationship, we established military bases in SAUDIA ARABIA.
Al Qaeda warned the CIA and Gov’t about their opposition to this, before 911.
They didn’t tell YOU about their opposition. Whence the Term ‘BLOWBACK’
Most of you freakin’ people need a basic education about foreign affairs and geo-politics.
Report Post »Until then, go post at the National Enquirer.
Baddoggy
Posted on January 29, 2012 at 11:29amYou are willing to give up your freedom for security with NDAA…An Unconstitutional law at best, at worst a tool to throw any AMERICAN in prison without charges..FOREVER!.
Wake the hell up America!
Report Post »its_time_to_arrest_our_government
Posted on January 29, 2012 at 11:36amits about time someone stood up to these commies
Report Post »PATTY HENRY
Posted on January 29, 2012 at 11:39amMORE AMERICANS need to stand up to those Anti-American, self-serving, Divisive dopes who now control our country. GOOD FOR WEST!!! PS I would not judge him on the NDAA vote until 1) I knew he voted for it 2) Why he says he did…. SO far, he’s been the most impressive 2010 elected addition in DC. He’s the ONLY one to pass a bill vs. RON PAUL who’s been there almost 25 years and passed 0… This is, of course, a man to watch!! We know one thing: HE IS A PATRIOT !!!
Report Post »2theADDLED
Posted on January 29, 2012 at 11:46amA true patriot who understands what this country is all about. He knows what it is to defend American values and the willingness to die for it so our children and grand children may also know what makes this country great. I agree if you don’t like American values and want to change the very core of the U.S.A. get the hell out. Liberty is worth dying for if you are a true American patiot and take the Oath to defend the Constitution and actually mean it.
Report Post »justangry
Posted on January 29, 2012 at 11:53amWake up Patti, you can find out how every legislator voted on every issue online. A two minute search will give you a definitive answer to your first question. As for your second question, he did an interview with GB talking about it. He’s since, tried to cover his A for his vote, but…
He does SAY the things we want to hear. I’ll give you that.
Report Post »PatriotNAmerica
Posted on January 29, 2012 at 11:55amHe’s right about this issue. Those with other loyalties other than the US Constitution should get the hell out of America. Also those such as Mr. West and his fellow Neo-Cons that support such treasonous legislation like the Patriot Act and NDAA should also get the hell out.
That being said, I’m most concerned with those with dual loyalties! You won’t believe the following video unless you see it with your own two eyes!
http://youtu.be/IheJ2Rohz1c
Report Post »pattybbb1
Posted on January 29, 2012 at 12:04pmI like Mr. West, I really do. But he should have run for President. Big talk, but what ya gonna do about it West if in 4 years there is no America, as intended?
Report Post »Pro-Palin
Posted on January 29, 2012 at 12:21pmG O D has a hard on for Allen West !! And the Media and Dems are afraid of empowered black man ….
Report Post »justangry
Posted on January 29, 2012 at 12:26pmCAUTION everyone. Clicking PATRIOTNAMERICA’s link will take you to a David Duke video (former Grand Wizard of the KKK) Big Sis could be watching.
Report Post »teamarcheson
Posted on January 29, 2012 at 12:27pmAll Three Must Be Tried For Treason.
Since they stuck together all these years they should hand together too.
Report Post »armorbearer
Posted on January 29, 2012 at 12:35pmAmen! I agree with your statement.
Report Post »Ballot_Box_Revolution
Posted on January 29, 2012 at 12:37pmmike_trivisonno
I am amazed at your lack of understanding of language, and the fact that unfortunately law is based on language, not intent of legislation.
This is how the constitution gets dismantled….
Report Post »bobtail88
Posted on January 29, 2012 at 12:37pmIs there some way we could force him to run, Draft him,anything! we need this man in office NOW!
Report Post »Red Meat
Posted on January 29, 2012 at 12:38pmWest is the biggest fraud purported on the American public since Martinizing® but you idiots keep supporting Mr. “I Love Me Some Pigford and NDAA.” Morons.
Report Post »PatriotNAmerica
Posted on January 29, 2012 at 12:48pmjustangry: I’m not as interested in whom someone is as to what they have to say.
If you can’t find a mistatement or an outright lie then you should just shut the hell up. I find it strange that no one is able to contradict anything the man is saying but they cower in fear and point out past associations like they cancel out the truth that he is currently stating.
For the sake of God is he stating facts or is he lying? Don’t bury your head in the sand my friend. Look up and see the truth!
Report Post »Twobyfour
Posted on January 29, 2012 at 12:59pmProblemsolver says: “Our Corrupt Corporation that calls itself our government had it’s CIA (crooks in action) train and supply arms to Al Qaeda in the 1980′s to fight the Soviets in Afghanistan. We also Financed them. After we formed a relationship, we established military bases in SAUDIA ARABIA.”
I’ve seen this BS repeated numerous times, Not sure where it came from, but it’s disinformation.
Though CIA trained and supplied Afghan resistance, there was no Al-Qaeda in existence during the Russian occupation. Handful of people like OBL fought on the side of Afghans, but not like some sort of organization. Several Arabs formed a unit that was supplied from BL family and trained on their own. Some Afghans resented them and tried not to involve them in operations, because they had a tendency to “lord over” them and push objectives that were often at odd with theirs. The Arabs were more successful with Salafist Afghans that later formed Taliban. After the Russians left, OBL moved back to ME. The idea of Al-Qaeda was taking a shape in those settings. Not under that name, though, it was a loose think thank for advancement of Jihad.
The name Al-Qaeda was adopted after hit and miss on OBL Lybian location. He moved back to Afghanistan and his Taliban buddies gave him a sanctuary. That is when the name Al-Qaeda (The Base) appears in the first time.
Report Post »Ballot_Box_Revolution
Posted on January 29, 2012 at 1:00pmI didn’t click on that link due to the way it is spelled out (youtu.be.com). there is a dot where it shouldn’t be….might want to check for a virus if you clicked on the link directly.
I guess it could have been a mistype, and nothing intentional, but i don’t click suspicious links.
Report Post »bigbear_awake
Posted on January 29, 2012 at 1:00pmThank You Mr. West God Bless and WE THE PEOPLE ARE BEHIND YOU 150%
Report Post »there will be no election this year unless we get him out of office he has broken all the RULES OF the Constitution and needs to go PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE Mr. WEST !!!!!!
banjarmon
Posted on January 29, 2012 at 1:08pmCol. Allen West, I am ready to help you defend Florida and The USA from the commies that want to ruin OUR Country!! BRING IT ON!!!!!
Report Post »lillymckim
Posted on January 29, 2012 at 1:14pmI so enjoy Mr. West and his delightful commentary … he has what it takes!
Report Post »justangry
Posted on January 29, 2012 at 1:23pm@Patriot, With the constant reports on how invasive Big Brother’s getting, everyone should be aware at what they’re looking at before they click the link. You might not care that he was a Grand Wizard of the KKK, but I assure you that many people do. I’m kind of guessing the black fella in the White House with the power to send people off to Gitmo, cares. That‘s all I’m saying.
Report Post »Adorno
Posted on January 29, 2012 at 1:43pmWatching him is like watching a retarded kid who says stupid and embarrassing things other kids tell him to say just because everyone laughs when he says them. Remember when Ann Coulter said, speaking of Herman Cain in particular, “our blacks are so much better than their blacks” ? Well, we all know how Mr. Cain worked out, and Mr. West is far worse; he’s just not that smart. And like all black Republicans (including that pathetic Clarence Thomas), West has never hesitated to play the race card as soon as anyone criticizes him, but criticizes black liberals for saying something is racist. Give me John Lewis, Keith Ellison, or any of the actual heroes of the civil rights movement any day.
Report Post »Bible Quotin' Science Fearin' Conservative American
Posted on January 29, 2012 at 1:44pmAmerica isn’t your country. It’s ours. By that I mean all of ours.
No matter how much you guys want to ignore the facts and believe in the made up version of Obama from your nightmares, when Mittens gets up there to debate the fake version, the real one will crush him.
Report Post »Bible Quotin' Science Fearin' Conservative American
Posted on January 29, 2012 at 1:46pmWest is all hot air or he would have had the sack to run for office like Obama DID.
Report Post »Ray2447
Posted on January 29, 2012 at 1:46pm“Get the hell out.”
Cultural Marxist indoctrination is rampant on our college and university campuses. How about firing the Democrat party trash who spew their Cultural Marxist propaganda from their taxpayer funded podiums. America’s children deserve better than the brainwashing that passes for education, that they’re now getting in the vile curriculum as shown in Marxist Valley College at Youtube. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7iVmh0VCkL4
Report Post »JohnGalt
Posted on January 29, 2012 at 1:50pm@Baddoggy,
No West did NOT vote for NDAA, here’s a partial list of who did, just the ‘W’ ;
Warner, Mark R. – (D – VA)
Webb, Jim – (D – VA)
Whitehouse, Sheldon – (D – RI)
Wicker, Roger F. – (R – MS)
Report Post »PatriotNAmerica
Posted on January 29, 2012 at 1:52pmjustangry: Are you serious? You are living your life in fear of the US Gov’t? Good grief! Are you gay?
Do you realize that the USA allied with one of the biggest mass murderers in World History in WW2 and you have concerns about the couple of years Dr. Duke spent in the klan back when he was 19 years old? Are you really that delusional?
Is the man telling the truth or is he lying? That’s all I care about. I don’t even care if he used the N word 40 years ago!
Let me try one more time to reason with you. Say someone is coming take out your most favorite loved one. However someone was going to give you some information which would prepare you for the event enabling to protect your loved one… Although there’s one caveat, 25 years ago this individual committed a robbery in which led to the death of a clerk.
Would you be willing to disgregard the man’s information even though it would lead to the saving of your loved one because he has a checkered past? Or would you demand someone come forth with a completely clean past even it meant the murder and loss of your loved one? But you would have waited for the knight and shining armour.. lol
Surely you must see the foolishness in your reasoning.
Report Post »Ray2447
Posted on January 29, 2012 at 1:58pm“How did the American people get so stupid?”
They got that way by having the Democrat party almost exclusively in charge of America’s educational systems. The dumbing down of America’s children and young adults is relentless. Cultural Marxism is being taught from taxpayer funded, teacher’s podiums like religion. Cultural Marxist indoctrination is shoved down the throats of students as shown in Marxist Valley College at Youtube. This is how a majority of America’s population became stupid enough to elect an Obama to the highest office in the land. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7iVmh0VCkL4
Report Post »aragona
Posted on January 29, 2012 at 2:01pmYou libs that are trashing Allen West are nothing but a bunch of racists. You just don’t want to see a black man get ahead.
Report Post »Nick84
Posted on January 29, 2012 at 2:05pmSo, if people don’t agree with you, they should be exiled? Sounds a lot like a dictatorship.
Report Post »drago
Posted on January 29, 2012 at 2:11pm@baddoggy, vman mace, vechorik aka ENCINOM
Report Post »Do you get paid more from media matters if your statements are drug induced? Worthless pos…….
zcactus2
Posted on January 29, 2012 at 2:18pmHe is going to be a great leader someday
Report Post »bboop1934
Posted on January 29, 2012 at 2:19pmLove this man!
Report Post »rose-ellen
Posted on January 29, 2012 at 2:20pmHe should be at the Hague on trial for war crimes.
Report Post »Jinglebob
Posted on January 29, 2012 at 2:36pmI want this man as Vice President!
Report Post »Cat
Posted on January 29, 2012 at 2:38pmOldoldtimer >
The FEMA camps are ready
In September 2011, N. Caroline governor Perdue (D) suggested suspending elections
(And was quietly told to shut up)
HR5136 was passed in 2011, and the NDAA for FY2012
The military’s budget was cut, but they were given more authority regarding retention of anyone who commits a belligerent act … Along with the “president”
The next step is to define a “belligerent act”
That will be done under the cover of night and will be quashed until someone figures out we are at the threshold of becoming a nation out of our control
“It’s no big deal, just hop on the train, and you’ll be taken to a safe place.”
Remember?
Report Post »JDF10487
Posted on January 29, 2012 at 2:41pmGood catch Bad Doggy, I have been looking at Allen West skeptically ever since he voted for NDAA.
The mouth will say anything but BEHAVIOR never lies.
Report Post »babylonvi
Posted on January 29, 2012 at 2:42pmSorry, we all had such hopes for this Veteran and Legislator, but though he talks tough conservative, he acts like an establishment lackey. He has voted for some very bad legislation, including the NDAA and he continues to support the Neocon Boehner who has been ineffectual at stopping the Progressive take over of the country and shredding of the constitution. Frankly the Republicans are letting Obama play them like a cheap fiddle.
Report Post »SamIamTwo
Posted on January 29, 2012 at 2:44pmwo0t.
Report Post »DesertDave54
Posted on January 29, 2012 at 2:49pmI’m with you on that, brother! This guy gives me goosebumps when he talks. HE should be prez, and have Mitt, Newt and Rick Santorum in his cabinet. Sen. Rubio as his VP. Nice dream.
Report Post »Captain77
Posted on January 29, 2012 at 2:57pmHe betrayed his oath to protect and defend the Constitution of the United States when he voted for the National Defense Authorization Act 2012. I’m tired of politicians who break their oaths. Aren’t you?
Report Post »CultureWarriors
Posted on January 29, 2012 at 2:57pmTake the cesspool of liberal imbecilic ideas and leave. Don’t let the door hit you in the ass on the way either. YOU AIN’T WELCOME HERE COMRADE. PARASITES LEAVE!! YOU BRING DOWN A GREAT COUNTRY!
Report Post »Marci
Posted on January 29, 2012 at 2:58pmToo bad he couldn’t have been our first black president. None of us gives a crap about color—only the left as they use it to shout down, defame, and otherwise silence anyone who fights against their agenda to destroy this country. This man understands what is at stake, as did Herman Cain. But they couldn’t have Herman Cain getting in their way of pulling the race card, now could they? You can bet that they will NEVER allow a black man to get the Republican nomination. But the real problem is in those that eat up the misinformation, if the MAJORITY of America would not stand for it, we could get rid of these rats that have infested our government once and for all. We are left with the likes of Newt and Mittens to choose from. Both progressive and big government RINOS.
Report Post »martinez012577
Posted on January 29, 2012 at 2:59pmNothing says freedom in the United States like voting for indefinite detention and telling people with other views to get out.
Under the NDAA, whos more likely to be held in indefinite detention? Tea party patriots for the Constitution or left wing, globalists, progressives, and warmongers?
Remember your boy, Allen West voted for it. Romney and Gingrich want it, and Santorum didnt give a great answer on not supporting it.
Report Post »anOpinion
Posted on January 29, 2012 at 3:08pmAllen West is amazing, I hope this inspires more people in power to speak out.
Report Post »Cesium
Posted on January 29, 2012 at 3:12pmOK West.. Why don’t you run for POTUS then?
Report Post »Bible Quotin' Science Fearin' Conservative American
Posted on January 29, 2012 at 3:27pmBefore you blame the Left for the state of education, you should realize that the worst piece of legislation to come around in a long time was “no child left behind” and that was your boy Bush.
Now, I know that “no child left behind” was passed before Obama took office which is about the same time most of you started paying any attention to politics, hence the Tea Party. But that doesn’t change the fact that a Republican introduced the education destroying legislation.
But, hey, don’t let facts get in the way of your pitchfork mob.
Report Post »martinez012577
Posted on January 29, 2012 at 3:32pmSo when you dont support a black congressman because he votes for a bill that can allow the army to march into your house, grab you, throw you in a cell, you get no lawyer, no judge, no jury, and they can hold you till you die and not say a word about you to anyone, YOU ARE A RACIST?
You kidding me right? It honestly doesnt matter who is elected for president now. The globalists, progressives, and warmongers have already changed America. Just look at these forums. You have so called tea party members praising a man who voted for that stuff. Then when someone doesnt like it, you call them a racist, communist, left winger.
Did you know New Jersey has a bill that will ban most rifle ammo and handgun ammo from being sold? They say, its dangerous for cops and since they cannot banned guns they are going to ban the ammo. This is no different from NDAA. Taking away freedoms for protection.
“Those Who Sacrifice Liberty For Security Deserve Neither.”
Report Post »A paraphrase from Ben Franklin.
West Coast Patriot
Posted on January 29, 2012 at 3:51pmThe only reason you will have to hold your noses, is because you have not the courage to do the right thing for America now.
Report Post »justangry
Posted on January 29, 2012 at 4:02pm@Patriot, I’m not concerned about myself. I figure I‘ve openly trashed our government’s policies enough that I’m sure, if they were paying attention they wouldn’t like it. Just put a disclaimer on there for people so they can make up their own minds is all I’m asking. I’d also suggest that if you truly believe his message you either present it yourself, or find someone else that shares his oppinions who doesn’t have such a questionable past.
Report Post »abbygirl1994
Posted on January 29, 2012 at 4:23pmBADDOGGY I am wondering the same thing about my Senator.. he is a conservative. I have questioned him on it.. and actually believes that Obama would not arrest and detain American’s without due process. I believe he has be duped! I hope to vote him out next November!
Report Post »MIBUGNU2
Posted on January 29, 2012 at 4:24pmThank You, Rep. West for being OUR VOICE !! These are
Report Post »four very despicable individules……………
MIBUGNU2
Posted on January 29, 2012 at 4:25pmThank You, Rep. West for being OUR VOICE !! These are
Report Post »four very despicable individules you mention….
Twobyfour
Posted on January 29, 2012 at 4:33pmThere is nothing in NDAA that even implies indefinite detention of US citizens or legal residents without due process. If it is so, please point out the specific segment that states so, for all here to see.
As for suspension of habeas corpus or due process, that is possible through a declaration of martial law. Hopefully, it won’t come to that. There’s no need to create some sort of “sneaky” provision somewhere else, since the precedent already exists (Civil War).
Report Post »PatriotNAmerica
Posted on January 29, 2012 at 4:35pmjustangry: “I’d also suggest that if you truly believe his message you either present it yourself”
But I t hought you were an honest broker. He’s saying that what people are referring to as our #1 ally has committed several terrorist attacks against the US including the brazenly horrific and cowardly act upon the US Liberty and to not to even mention all of the spying abuses and we still send them billions of US dollars and military equipment?
How can you so easily condone these actions justangry? What is it within you that allows some terrorists attacks against America to mean something but other ones are to be brushed under the rug so that no one knows about them..
Are you really the honest broker that I thought you were?
Report Post »Grandmadar
Posted on January 29, 2012 at 4:46pmWhen the NDAA was voted on, our local Talk Radio Host invited Marlin Stutzman to come on the show and explain why he voted for it because the people in his district were quite upset.
Report Post »Marlin explained that IT WASN’T ORIGINALLY IN THE BILL. That the prez wouldn’t sign it if it wasn”t (the part of arresting American Citizens and making America part of the battleground). Marlin didn’t know it was put in because the whole thing was shady! So the prez making the comment how he didn’t want to use his powers that way was just so you would hear him say the right thing…while he does another. It is possible that Col, West didn’t know either at the last minute.
Twobyfour
Posted on January 29, 2012 at 4:47pmMy take on this issue (NDAA) is that the leftists saw it that with a bit of inventive interpretation, the specific provisions of NDAA may be construed that since it is not explicitly forbidden in it to detain US citizens or legal residents indefinitely without due process, it is therefore allowed. That is not, of course, the case. The particulars are defined elsewhere, explicitly.
However, this reframing of the NDAA may be useful to create a wedge amongst conservatives and essentially split them in factions, because they rely on the fact that a majority of people don’t have time to read through it..
So far, as I can judge, their psy-op seems to have a degree of success.
Report Post »Twobyfour
Posted on January 29, 2012 at 4:55pmGrandmadar, would you care to provide specific provisions that allow indefinite detention without due process of US citizens or legal residents in the NDAA (that was supposedly slipped in)?
Thank you
Report Post »justangry
Posted on January 29, 2012 at 4:56pm@Patriot No, I don‘t think we should be giving ANY country money we don’t have including Isreal. I do not condone Isreali espionage against us, or any attack on our sailors. I just don’t know the facts. There’s not dishonest bone in my body. As a matter of fact, I routinely piss people off with my candor. I’ll take a look into the USS Liberty incident, but if there’s a conspiracy invovled, I’m sure not going to get any straight answers.
Report Post »PatriotNAmerica
Posted on January 29, 2012 at 5:04pmjustangry I was actually reading about this afternoon.. It will simply blow your mind. The intent was to sink the ship and blame it upon Egypt and they new they could get away with it due to their influence in the US Media and they did.
The ship sent out an SSS and a nearby Carrier was responding but President Johnson ordered them to back down… lol
If it don’t make your blood boil then all I can say is that you are not an American.
People need to know the truth!
Report Post »vampiric aristocracy
Posted on January 29, 2012 at 5:22pmI love allen west. God bless him.
Report Post »johnannegalt
Posted on January 29, 2012 at 5:30pmhttp://markamerica.com/2012/01/29/flash-romneys-florida-spokesman-sabotaging-allen-west/
Unfortunately Romney’s FL spokesman is sabotaging West..
Report Post »Red Meat
Posted on January 29, 2012 at 5:33pm@JohnGalt
Posted on January 29, 2012 at 1:50pm
@Baddoggy,
No West did NOT vote for NDAA, here’s a partial list of who did, just the ‘W’ ;
Warner, Mark R. – (D – VA)
Webb, Jim – (D – VA)
Whitehouse, Sheldon – (D – RI)
Wicker, Roger F. – (R – MS)
——————————————————
They are Senators. West in a Congressman.
Aye FL-22 West, Allen [R]
West DID in fact vote for NDAA.
Report Post »Aye FL-22 West, Allen [R]
http://www.govtrack.us/congress/vote.xpd?vote=h2011-932
Moron
Cousin_of_Marx
Posted on January 29, 2012 at 5:40pmI want Glenn Beck…..to get the HELL out of my local Krispy Kreme donuts.
Report Post »I want the noid….to get the HELL out of my pizza
I want soy products…to get the HELL out of my hungry man dinner
I want New England…to lose the HELL out of the Superbowl
martinez012577
Posted on January 29, 2012 at 5:43pmNDAA section 1021.
Report Post »justangry
Posted on January 29, 2012 at 5:47pm@Twobyfour I’m awaiting a reply from one of my conservative lawyer buddies to point out the specifics. I’ll pass it along when I get answers. Take a look at this clip though of Judge Napalitano, and Senator Lee discussing it on Freedom watch. Lee was one of Alito’s clerks.
Report Post »http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a2EynpMPFOs
OutofSympathy
Posted on January 29, 2012 at 6:04pm@Baddoggy:
First of understand why he voted for NDAA before spouting off. The only way the funding for our troops was going to be approved was the DEMOCRATS addition to the bill. Go watch some of the interviews where he was pushed about that vote. This is why a bill should not have add ons, and should stand alone. A farm bill with no education add ons, a military bill with no energy add ons etc. etc. etc. The man was damned if he did and damned if he didn’t. Use that melon it’s meant for more than supporting a hat.
As for Pigford, perhaps people need to do some research. He did in fact admit he made a mistake in doing his due dilligence on that bill. For the conservatives whining about it, people make mistakes. For the Liberals, at least he does admit to mistakes something Obama NEVER will.
Report Post »Luke611
Posted on January 29, 2012 at 6:11pmMike
Well said, sounds as if you may have read the indepth Bill.
Nevertheless, regardless of the NDAA’s holes that may be curious to the exact meaning thereof, Allen West means exactly what he said in this statement. He knows what side of the line he stands, and it is the opposite of the side of Obama, Pelosi, Reid and Wassarmen.
I salute you Mr. West…thank you for your continual service.
Report Post »carbonyes
Posted on January 29, 2012 at 6:13pmAll I can say is, “Wow!”. God bless Allen West, and while He is at it, may God establish and maintain a hedge of protection around him. Some would say Colonel West must have drank a can of Whop Azz. Not really, that is part of his nature and character. It has been inbred and imbued in him since a child, and his military career certainly did not hurt him. He is a stalwart and Obama And the Democratic Party’s worse night mare. I say, “Go for it.” This man has a fire in his belly and integrity and character that will help carry him through any road blocks or obstacles that the Dumocrats and the Lame Stream media could put in his path. He definitely would be an asset on any of the potential present candidates running for the nomination, and I am not so sure that he could not take the lead position. He sure beats the Hell out of Obama.
Report Post »carbonyes
Posted on January 29, 2012 at 6:17pmGUERRINO, if he is NUTS, then he’s nuts in good way. Just cause you don’t have ant balls or backbone, does not mean the rest of America is that way.
Report Post »V-MAN MACE
Posted on January 29, 2012 at 6:17pmbooger71
Allen West fired a pistol over a person‘s head while they we’re blindfolded. That’s torture. Waterboarding is torture.
Let me ask you ,“Booger”, who determines what is torture, the person being tortured, or the person doing the torturing? I think Liberty and justice fallls on the side of the person being tortured, not the person doing/ ordering the torturing.
Drago, go hide back in your cubbyhole curled up in a fetal position and keep licking Nazi TSA NDAA jackboots, you yellowbellied coward, praying the calvary saves you from the big bad muslim boogeyman and the abominable urban minority. They have such a great track record, 3000+ dead not even counting the OK City Building and more to come from false-flag terror perpetrated by your own government.
Report Post »carbonyes
Posted on January 29, 2012 at 6:22pmNot true FREEDOMLUVER, not true at all. Just cause he voted for the NDAA does not mean he does not support the Bill of Rights. Get a clue, and while you are at it, get a bit better informed.
Report Post »V-MAN MACE
Posted on January 29, 2012 at 6:25pmits_time_to_arrest_our_government…because 9-11 was an inside job. There, your name fits my sentence perfectly. I’m not a blind sheep bigot who hates muslims.
That man Allen West IS NUTS, IN A CRAZY AS HELL WAY….he voted to relieve himself all over the Bill of Rights becvause of his loyalty to the military. Which do you swear an oath to, the Constitution or the Military, ALLEN WEST?
ALLEN WEST WOULD KICK YOUR DOOR IN AND MAKE YOU GET YOUR STUPID BOOTLICKING ASS ON THE BIG GREEN ARMY BUS TO THE FEMA CAMP THEN CLAIM IT WAS A MISTAKE?
Stupid sheep. Allen “NDAA” West doesn’t give a damn about you.
Report Post »Twobyfour
Posted on January 29, 2012 at 6:26pmSubtitle D—Counterterrorism
Report Post »SEC. 1021. AFFIRMATION OF AUTHORITY OF THE ARMED FORCES OF
THE UNITED STATES TO DETAIN COVERED PERSONS
PURSUANT TO THE AUTHORIZATION FOR USE OF MILITARY
FORCE.
(a) IN GENERAL.—Congress affirms that the authority of the
President to use all necessary and appropriate force pursuant to
the Authorization for Use of Military Force (Public Law 107–40;
50 U.S.C. 1541 note) includes the authority for the Armed Forces
of the United States to detain covered persons (as defined in subsection
(b)) pending disposition under the law of war.
(b) COVERED PERSONS.—A covered person under this section
is any person as follows:
(1) A person who planned, authorized, committed, or aided
the terrorist attacks that occurred on September 11, 2001,
or harbored those responsible for those attacks.
(2) A person who was a part of or substantially supported
al-Qaeda, the Taliban, or associated forces that are engaged
in hostilities against the United States or its coalition partners,
including any person who has committed a belligerent act or
has directly supported such hostilities in aid of such enemy
forces.
(c) DISPOSITION UNDER LAW OF WAR.—The disposition of a
person under the law of war as described in subsection (a) may
include the following:
carbonyes
Posted on January 29, 2012 at 6:27pmV-MAN MACE, just cause you are a *****, and don’t understand that not only was water boarding effective, but it saved lives and if it needs to be used again against these ISLAMIC DEVIL WORSHIPERS, otherwise known as sicko’s, then so let it be and let freedom ring in the process.
Report Post »Twobyfour
Posted on January 29, 2012 at 6:29pm(1) Detention under the law of war without trial until
the end of the hostilities authorized by the Authorization for
Use of Military Force.
(2) Trial under chapter 47A of title 10, United States
Code (as amended by the Military Commissions Act of 2009
(title XVIII of Public Law 111–84)).
(3) Transfer for trial by an alternative court or competent
tribunal having lawful jurisdiction.
(4) Transfer to the custody or control of the person’s country
of origin, any other foreign country, or any other foreign entity.
(d) CONSTRUCTION.—Nothing in this section is intended to limit
or expand the authority of the President or the scope of the
Authorization for Use of Military Force.
(e) AUTHORITIES.—Nothing in this section shall be construed
to affect existing law or authorities relating to the detention of
United States citizens, lawful resident aliens of the United States,
or any other persons who are captured or arrested in the United
States.
(f) REQUIREMENT FOR BRIEFINGS OF CONGRESS.—The Secretary
of Defense shall regularly brief Congress regarding the application
of the authority described in this section, including the organizations,
entities, and individuals considered to be ‘‘covered persons’’
for purposes of subsection (b)(2).
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So, where is the authorization to detain US citizens and lawful residents indefinitely without due process? Trying as I may, I don’t see it there.
Report Post »SacredHonor1776
Posted on January 29, 2012 at 6:39pm“The Privilege of the Writ of Habeas Corpus shall not be suspended, unless when in Cases of Rebellion or Invasion the public Safety may require it.”
Scary indeed, although remember section 9 of the Constitution itself (outside the bill of rights) left open a loophole (where it cAn be suspended under special cases);
“The Privilege of the Writ of Habeas Corpus shall not be suspended, unless when in Cases of Rebellion or Invasion the public Safety may require it.”
However, that is a dangerous loophole to abuse, and should taken very seriously… And questioned.
Report Post »V-MAN MACE
Posted on January 29, 2012 at 6:40pmcarbonyes
The person who ordered the torture says the torture was “effective”, and you agree, so that means it must be true, right?
STOP SMOKING CRACK.
I know you love to hate muslims (and probably brown-skinned people in general) but please DROP THE CRACK PIPE and step away slowly.
Twobyfour
You don‘t have the ability to see the part that says you can go to a FEMA Camp without trial and be held indefinitely because you don’t have a high enough reading comprehension level. Additionally, the definitions of words used in the text are legal definitions which may vary greatly in esoteric contexts that you are not qualified to interpret because you don’t know the secret lexicon.
How many legitimate law degrees have you earned?
Report Post »justangry
Posted on January 29, 2012 at 6:46pm@Patriot Stick to the primary sources as much as possible, bud. There seems to be A LOT out there, and I’m guessing it would take someone a couple of weeks, at least, to get through them all. Secondary sources, might be a good starting point, but you‘ll inherit their biases if that’s all you rely on.
Report Post »Tomr
Posted on January 29, 2012 at 6:51pmA lot of liberal-bigot postings here. Typical responce, they hate it when a real black man wonders off the plantation.
Report Post »SacredHonor1776
Posted on January 29, 2012 at 6:51pmHowever, the problem with NDAA, is not that it ‘suspends Habeaus Corpus’. Which the Constitution actually allows under special cases (Section 9); “The Privilege of the Writ of Habeas Corpus shall not be suspended, unless when in Cases of Rebellion or Invasion the public Safety may require it.”.
But rather, the NDAA allows citizens to be tried under military court, rather than civilian (stripped of citizenship)…
See Ex parte Milligan;
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ex_parte_milligan
Supreme court ruled in 1866″ that as long as civilian courts exist, that citizens can be tried in them, rather than military courts.
Report Post »hellomaine
Posted on January 29, 2012 at 6:56pmGod bless Mr. Allen West. We NEED him for president, really!
Report Post »Winedude
Posted on January 29, 2012 at 6:57pmThe man is a discredited fool. Since he voted for NDAA, he should be thrown in lockup for this treasonous language.
Report Post »Twobyfour
Posted on January 29, 2012 at 7:04pmV-MAN MACE, show me where I missed the provision about FEMA, since I have a PROBLEM WITH READING COMPREHENSION, as you claim. I quoted from the final draft. So, where is it?
Report Post »cuinsong
Posted on January 29, 2012 at 7:07pmGo Allen W. This is the kind of fire we need to generate in order to turn out the vote!
Report Post »This election is up for grabs and nobody has a lock on it. I am doing all I can with music to fight the lies and deception in the news today. More and more people are waking up to the truth of what is going on. This song is for them called “What’s wrong with this song?” http://www.reverbnation.com/play_now/song_9134749
toto
Posted on January 29, 2012 at 7:08pmGod Bless!
Report Post »wasatchfox
Posted on January 29, 2012 at 7:08pmI couldnt agree more. I used to hold out my only hope for this man but with his vote for the NDAA he has shown his true colors. He is nothing more than a disgusting politician no different than those he criticizes.
Report Post »PatriotNAmerica
Posted on January 29, 2012 at 7:14pmjustangry: Well the problem with the primary sources in regards to the attempted sinking of the USS Liberty is that so many of them are dead but I think it was some Sec of Denfense named Rusk that said the Israeli’s intentionally attempted to sink the ship which is rather obvious anyway.
But when are they going to tell us why all of those Israeli’s were arrested on 9-11? Some celebrating video taping the whole thing!
Sick isn’t it?
Report Post »carbonyes
Posted on January 29, 2012 at 7:17pmTWOBYFOUR, your post and reading of NDAA is absolutely correct. Per SUBTITLE D, Section1021, paragraphs:
Report Post »d) CONSTRUCTION.—Nothing in this section is intended to limit
or expand the authority of the President or the scope of the
Authorization for Use of Military Force.
(e) AUTHORITIES.—Nothing in this section shall be construed
to affect existing law or authorities relating to the detention of
United States citizens, lawful resident aliens of the United States,
or any other persons who are captured or arrested in the United
States.
There is no expansion or change in powers of the President relative to American citizens. Unfortunately, Paulbots, like PROBIEMSOIVER, V_MAN MACE, ANGRYMAN and several others have become so infatuated by their deer leader, Ron Paul, that they can’t see past the nose on the front of their face. They are worried about the competition the old fart would get should Colonel West be drafted into the race. The old man would disappear over night. Don’t know if they will ever wake up. They are like a bunch of old angry women who have been jilted and haven’t gotten over it.
Shasta
Posted on January 29, 2012 at 7:30pm@Red Meat, I wish you were right, but West’s own website from the hill says he did vote yes on NDAA and why.
http://west.house.gov/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=4459
Report Post »Ethereal
Posted on January 29, 2012 at 7:31pmto echo freedomluvr‘s words as responsible voters we shouldn’t listen to what the candidates say and instead pay attention to what they do or have done. that is the reason this country is stuck with the commies we have now. As conservatives lets not start picking candidates like the libs do and instead do out the smart way.ip
Report Post »laserjet
Posted on January 29, 2012 at 7:54pmI agree – I can’t understand why he voted for that disastrous defense bill, unless he was buffaloed like the rest of them… They will be after him for this, though.
Report Post »messcatzoe
Posted on January 29, 2012 at 7:58pmKTSAYZ – you are an idiot. Pigford was class action law suit.and West had zip to do with it. What was voted is on was the funds to pay the anti discrimination law suit which black farmers won. Have another glass of kool aid and go back to Huffington Post where you belong…or you can pack your bags.
Report Post »DividedWeFail
Posted on January 29, 2012 at 7:58pmBaddoggy
Posted on January 29, 2012 at 9:03am
He voted for NDAA.
____
Exactly.
West AND Bachman are Sunshine Patriots.
West speaks the right words then votes to TRASH the USA Constitution.
Report Post »norgeblonde12
Posted on January 29, 2012 at 8:14pmOldtimer is right…the way the NDAA was written…if you voted “no”, you were against funding the military. It was a trick by Obama…he insisted that the verbiage included the stipulation that the President alone would determine if an American Citizen should be detained indefinitely, without due process. In fact, shortly after the NDAA passed, Senate Dems, alerted to the public distain for the bill, are now working on a bill that would give Obama the right to strip citizenship so that no one could cause a ruckus about due process. Check it out…it’s true…Lieberman is one of the sponsors.
Report Post »V-MAN MACE
Posted on January 29, 2012 at 8:23pmTwobyfour
I didn‘t say you didn’t have a high enough reading comprehension level in order to belittle you, I’m saying that it takes a reading comprehension level at least that of a lawyer to even begin to make heads or tails of the provisions in these laws as they are written, and that is deliberately so by the persons writing them, in order to violate parts of the constitution that is readily apparent and understandable by laymen.
Nazi Apologists like Carboneyes can call people like me what they want, I’m a “Libertybot”. Ron Paul expounds liberty, rejects and criticizes these provisions for what they are- CONSTITUTION KILLERS- more than any other candidate, he walks the talk, they can’t stand that, I don’t care.
Anyway…
“pending disposition under the law of war.” WE HAVEN’T DECLARED ANY WAR.
“…including any person who has committed a belligerent act or has directly supported such hostilities in aid of such enemy forces.“ Who determines what is a ”belligerent act”? Who determines what constitutes “direct support”? This is ambiguous deliberately to allow the Executive Branch to determine the indeterminable without due process, investigation, or other legal firewalls to protect citizen rights.
“…until the end of the hostilities… ” Who determines when the hostilities end in an undeclared war with no clear direction or criteria for victory? President Soetoro?
Report Post »ProbIemSoIver
Posted on January 29, 2012 at 8:24pmIt plainly says:
(1) Detention under the law of war without trial until
the end of the hostilities authorized by the Authorization for
Use of Military Force.
That means until the Military / Industrial Complex is finished wiping out a Country with it’s cool new high-tech weapons. It will then retreat so it’s other nefarious tentacle; the Banksters can make money from the loans to rebuild what it tore down.
An undetermined date to end a war, would be classified as ‘Indefinitely’.
Since Guantanamo has Limited housing, The most logical place to detain these people are at the FEMA camps.
You people should really abstain from the Fluoridated Water, GMOs and Preservatives.
Report Post »I’d bet your Pineal Glands are nearly gone.
Twobyfour
Posted on January 29, 2012 at 8:26pmDividedWeFail: “West speaks the right words then votes to TRASH the USA Constitution.”
Please explain how. I posted the section in question up in the thread. No one can point to something specific in the text that does the deed, but a bunch of you repeat that the section is unconstitutional.
WHERE? Specify what particulars are trashing constitution.
Report Post »Grandmadar
Posted on January 29, 2012 at 8:27pmTwoby Four: Was not online…but just saw your question. If you see this I will respond by what I heard from our Congressman. He said the first time they voted on it (NDAA) this section was not in te bill. The second time they voted it was slipped in. Many bills go to the House and then the Senate and back to the House for 2nd vote. I am assuming this is what he meant when he said the 2nd time he voted it was slipped in. This is what I heard on the radio.
This is no different that during the time of the vote on The Affordable Healthcare Act better known as ObamaCare. The part about the options were taken out.
I am not necessarily standing up for anyone who voted for this. Just trying to look at it from another point. This Gov is corrupt and nothing is beneath them as most of us are pointing out.
Our Representatives HAVE to read everything word for word and call out any changes before they vote. If our current Speaker was doing all of his job some of the corruptness would be dealt with. At times I think our Reps are so busy looking at the trees they can’t see the forest. Or…..they are threatened?
Report Post »Hope this helps and that you happen to see this.
V-MAN MACE
Posted on January 29, 2012 at 8:33pm[Continued]
“Trial under chapter 47A of title 10, United States Code (as amended by the Military Commissions Act of 2009 (title XVIII of Public Law 111–84)).”
What part of the Constitution says the President can unilaterally suspend or revoke my citizenship and try me in a military court in an undeclared fictitious war? I have inalienable rights granted by GOD and sealed by the US Constitution!
“(3) Transfer for trial by an alternative court or competent tribunal having lawful jurisdiction.”
Who determines what is a lawful juridiction in an unlawful, unconstitutional, undeclared act of TREASON?
“(4) Transfer to the custody or control of the person’s country of origin, any other foreign country, or any other foreign entity.”
What makes you think any citizen is going to allow theirself to be extradited for extraordinary rendition or indefinite detention/military trial in a foreign country (willingly)? Who determines what is a person’s country of “origin”? If I’m black, does that mean I get shipped back to Africa?
“(d) CONSTRUCTION.—Nothing in this section is intended to limit or expand the authority of the President or the scope of the Authorization for Use of Military Force.”
Well isn’t THIS a clever/ convenient disclaimer! Not to mention the remaining BULL$#!T.
Report Post »jzs
Posted on January 29, 2012 at 8:37pmI understand that West is simply trying to grab headlines with outrageous statements. I get that, but the tiny sliver of Americans who cheer these kinds of statements represent the worst of our country. He disagrees with Democrats, so he tells them to get out of the country? With all due respect to West and his military service (before he booted out of the service for violating the military code of honor he swore to, not mention the Geneva convention), calling for political opponents to leave the country hardly reasoned political arguments.
His comment about the 99% and the 1% is particularly rich. “This is about 100 percent.” No it isn’t. This is about the average American. The only way the right can win elections is by convincing the gullible that by giving more and more of America‘s wealth to the the Republican’s richest donors, by cutting their taxes and raising your is “patriotic.” They want you to believe that policies that shrink the middle class, swell the ranks of the poor, and concentrate the wealth of this country into fewer and fewer hands, hand that can elections, increases your freedom. If the rich have more, you’ll have more freedom. That’s the claim.
Policies that support the average American, like you and me, aren’t evil.
Report Post »thewatcher93
Posted on January 29, 2012 at 8:42pm@Baddoggy
Because he is niave, he thinks he can protect the American people with this, he argues that with responsible people nothing would go wrong but what happens when those responsible people are gone? The NDAA is wrong, and unconstitutional and leave too much to risk.
Report Post »Grandmadar
Posted on January 29, 2012 at 8:42pm@TwobyFour or anyone interested: An article has been published by PAUL LIKOUDIS titled “Obama
Signed Away Bill of Rights”. I was given a photocopy so don’t have the date but it was very recent.
Probably you can search for it. It is a very good article.
Report Post »grandma7
Posted on January 29, 2012 at 8:43pmLove Love Love You President West!!!
Report Post »ProbIemSoIver
Posted on January 29, 2012 at 8:48pmIn 1863, Lincoln instituted martial law . What it means is that the President has dictatorial authority to do anything that can be done by the government in accord with the Constitution of the United States of America. This martial law authority is still in effect to this day and this Act was the foundation of today’s Presidential Executive Orders.
Under The District of Columbia Organic Act of 1871 a private corporation named, “The District of Columbia”, was formed. It trademarked the names “THE UNITED STATES GOVERNMENT”, “United States”, “U.S.”, “U.S.A.”, “USA”, and “America”. Without amending that municipality’s charter, this 1871 Act marked the creation of a new private corporation known as, “The District of Columbia” owned and operated by the actual government for the purpose of carrying out the business needs of the government under martial law.
In 1933, Corp. U.S. went bankrupt and the States agreed to support their resolution. In keeping with the bankruptcy, the Corp. U.S. Congress adjusted their Trading with the Enemies Act with their Emergency War Powers Act.
Under all of the media coverage of the Federal Reserve Bank Act, Corp. U.S. passes and adopts (as if ratified) their own 16th Amendment. This amendment has nothing to do with our nation, with our people or with our national Constitution.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IlCs7u1ihws
http://www.teamlaw.net/history.htm
Report Post »Ronko
Posted on January 29, 2012 at 8:49pmI bet Glenn cried after hearing that soundbite, i love it too as the message should be said.
Report Post »justangry
Posted on January 29, 2012 at 9:00pm@Twobyfour You raised a great question. I’m not lawyer, so I can’t give you the answer you seek. Searching for the specifics you‘re pointing out isn’t going well either. I relied heavily on reports and trusted Judge Napalitano’s interpretation, which is perhaps flawed. He’s right so often, I just kind of trusted him. It‘s so frustrating that we can’t get staight answers. People are concerned, asking questions, but they’re ignored. I’m still inclined to believe the Judge, but wondering if my resentment isn’t somewhat unjustified. Check out the following, however and you’ll see what has/had me so hopp’n mad.
Report Post »http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p-fmQ13bqDw
Twobyfour
Posted on January 29, 2012 at 9:07pm“Who determines what constitutes “direct support”? This is ambiguous deliberately to allow the Executive Branch to determine the indeterminable without due process, investigation, or other legal firewalls to protect citizen rights.”
This is related for foreign nationals. I don’t see how this can be construed in any other way, given the 2 clauses under the section.
“…until the end of the hostilities… ” Who determines when the hostilities end in an undeclared war
The war was declared, and authorized by Congress. I would object that it was declared on means of warfare (terrorism) rather than on a specific entity/entities (Islamic jihad groups). but however misguided that was because people have 100 years old concept of warfare, declared it was.
It was a common to determine the end of hostilities by a surrender of enemies. I suppose the same can be valid with non-country agents, problem is the Islamic groups do not see hostilities as a time limited status quo. They are at it for 1400 years, though there were temporary setbacks for them. Why do you think the call the areas not under the rule of Islam Dar al-Harb (realm of war or realm for war)? They take a long term view of the matter.
You may not think you are in a war, but Islam’s militant adherents thinks otherwise they are in a war with you.
Report Post »KTsayz
Posted on January 29, 2012 at 9:29pm@messcatzoe You’re a moron. It’s the FEMA camp for you!
Read it all here http://biggovernment.com/pigford-investigation-resources/
West even admitted his vote was a mistake. Look it up you obummaluva
Report Post »ChiefGeorge
Posted on January 29, 2012 at 9:30pmMe too! I could use a job in his administration.
Report Post »ChiefGeorge
Posted on January 29, 2012 at 9:35pmLTCOL. West comes across as a no nonsense American who has been there and back. We need more men like West in leadership, unfortunately for America, we typically do not have hiring signs out there that read: Will hire! Strong willed, ambitious, industrious, commited, moral, common sense oriented, well spoken, must possess fundamental understanding of US Constititution “AMERICAN MALE” needed to lead sorry state of affairs……RIGHT FREAKIN NOW!
Report Post »Twobyfour
Posted on January 29, 2012 at 9:36pmGrandmadar, agreed that the in the job description of congresscritters is to read the proposed bills and determine if there is (or is not) something amiss. They are often taking the easy way out, concerned about their through than about doing what they are supposed to do.
My main issue here is that according to some, the section in question is baaaaad and unconstitutional (and by implication these reps that voted yay are thusly baaaad and constitutional trashers), while I can’t find the specific segment they bring forth–that the section of the bill allows a infinite detention of US citizens and lawful residents without due process.
It doesn’t. It explicitly states that is not the case.
So, the question is why? What‘s the motivation to misconstrue what’s in the bill? Granted, some language may be a bit vague and should have been laced with references to a particular legislature that contains precise definitions.
But my question remains. Quo bono? Who benefits from the false flag of claims that do not correspond the the actual bill?
Report Post »Twobyfour
Posted on January 29, 2012 at 9:40pmparticular legislature = particular legislation.
PIMF (Preview Is MY Friend and here is none)
Report Post »OhCanada
Posted on January 29, 2012 at 10:13pmI’m in Love…..<3
Loud and Strong Mr West, Loud and Strong..
I dont know about anyone else, but thats the kinda language I like to hear.
DETERMINED WITH PASSION.
Report Post »encinom
Posted on January 29, 2012 at 10:15pmWest was a disgrace in uniform and he is proving to be a disgrace in Congress. Here is to his disgraceful term ending at the election booths in Novmeber, to bad the citizens of Florida can not recall his tea bagging a$$.
He is a joke and unamerican. Comments like that sure him for his true ignorant colors.
Report Post »teresa2010
Posted on January 29, 2012 at 10:23pm@Guerrino_P You are a worthless PUKE
Report Post »Babeuf
Posted on January 29, 2012 at 10:32pmSecret Squirrel,
Romney would have signed it
Report Post »http://youtu.be/elw_O14qo1A
Ballot_Box_Revolution
Posted on January 29, 2012 at 11:09pm@johngalt
yes he did http://www.ibtimes.com/articles/268602/20111216/ndaa-did-congress-member-vote.htm
Report Post »Sparky101
Posted on January 29, 2012 at 11:13pmLiberals would be afraid to leave the USA, who would feed, clothe and house them anywhere else?. Way back in the cave man days, liberal men were the girl-llike men who hung around the mouths of the caves (close to safety) darning socks and mending clothing, while the Republican men went out to hunt and bring home the bacon. Times have not changed.
Report Post »Therightsofbilly
Posted on January 29, 2012 at 11:45pmJZS
We know that you are just spewing your daily repetition of the marxist talking points.
We get that. Somebody else’s success is the reason for your failures. You can not feel good about yourself with dragging others down. We get that.
And stop calling yourself an average American
What you envision for this country is anything BUT American.
Report Post »moonbat666
Posted on January 29, 2012 at 11:50pmOn the contrary, he should leave the US if he is so disappointed in our leader. We are all Americans and while I really disagreed with pretty much everything that happened during the Bush years, I stayed here because this is my country too and we have to suffer fools as well as great leaders. He hates President Obama, get over it. In about four more years he will have a chance to experience a republicant president. In the mean time he should try and sound like a sane person.
Report Post »justangry
Posted on January 30, 2012 at 12:01amMeh, the more I try to decipher the NDAA the dumber I feel. I can find many interviews and cspan speeches where senators and congressmen are saying it allows the military to detain American citizens without a trial, but that’s about it. Perhaps the folks who supported it should get a PR rep to explain it to us simpletons if they want to keep their jobs. My gut‘s telling me that something isn’t right, and that‘s what I’m going on. One of my favorite videos is:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NW-e7z7S6VI&feature=player_embedded.
It even has a nice little plug for my boy at the end.
Report Post »Freedomluver
Posted on January 30, 2012 at 12:34am@Twobyfour
Your problem is your lack of reading comprehension, and given the complexity of this monstrosity, it’s not hard to see why.
Indefinite Detention. Section 1021(c)(1) says that “[t]he disposition of a person under the law of war as described in subsection (a) may include . . . [d]etention under the law of war without trial until the end of the hostilities authorized by the Authorization for Use of Military Force.” (Emphasis added.) This is the definition of indefinite detention.
Detainable Persons. Section 1021(b)(2) says that the government can detain (indefinitely)… including ANY person who has committed a belligerent act or has directly supported such hostilities in aid of such enemy forces.”
Detainability of U.S. Citizens. Section 1022(b) says that the military detention requirement in Section 1022 does not apply to U.S. citizens and lawful resident aliens for conduct within the United States. This means that the NDAA does not REQUIRE the military and indefinite detention of U.S. citizens who are “covered persons” under Section 1022(a)
You seem confused by the word “require”. All this means is that it is not REQUIRED that you are detained by the military indefinitely, it clearly does not say you CAN’T be detained indefinitely.
The words “does not apply to US citizens” is a word trick, and it fooled you. An non-citizen MUST be detained, and a citizen CAN be…but not MUST be.
Hope this clears it up for you.
Ron Paul
Report Post »OklahomaBound
Posted on January 30, 2012 at 12:37amGreat post mike_trivisonno. You really nailed it with the last paragraph when you said “Wake up. Jihad has been brought to our shores by traitors to out country and by foreign powers. Men like Allen West are doing something about while Paul supporters weep for our enemies.”
Those traitors and MusIim sympathizers are libt@rds and PauItards which is why you see both of these groups of domestic enemies screeching right here on The Blaze at any attempt to hold our enemies accountable just the way both of these groups of anarchist rail against our own police officers for bringing them to justice for the crimes they commit. Keep up the good fight!
Report Post »justangry
Posted on January 30, 2012 at 12:48am@Freedomluver, Thanks man, I was feeling kind of stupid. (More so than usual) Sleep deprivation is a bitch.
Report Post »GPS-Tech
Posted on January 30, 2012 at 12:54am@She man mace
Report Post »You should really keep your pot use down to a dime bag a night. You sound like a complete babbling idiot.
jcannon98188
Posted on January 30, 2012 at 1:07amHe needs to get the hell out. First with NDAA then with the Soldiers ******* on the taliban. Now he is trying to talk DOWN to the liberals? Friend, you ARE a liberal. Get the HELL out of my country Allen West.
Report Post »BigSky
Posted on January 30, 2012 at 1:49amWest voted “Aye”… http://www.govtrack.us/congress/vote.xpd?vote=h2011-375
Report Post »RepubliCorp
Posted on January 30, 2012 at 2:16am(Ron Kook Paul) & his band of merry racist
Report Post »http://www.tnr.com/article/politics/angry-white-man?id=e2f15397-a3c7-4720-ac15-4532a7da84ca
AnAppealToGod
Posted on January 30, 2012 at 2:39amWhere is the class people? Everyone sounds like a bunch of whiny liberals on here.
Report Post »Twobyfour
Posted on January 30, 2012 at 3:31amSection 1022 excerpt:
–Begin citation–
(b) APPLICABILITY TO UNITED STATES CITIZENS AND LAWFUL
RESIDENT ALIENS.—
(1) UNITED STATES CITIZENS.—The requirement to detain
a person in military custody under this section does not extend
to citizens of the United States.
(2) LAWFUL RESIDENT ALIENS.—The requirement to detain
a person in military custody under this section does not extend
to a lawful resident alien of the United States on the basis
of conduct taking place within the United States, except to
the extent permitted by the Constitution of the United States.
–End citation–
One may argue that the “does not extend” could be replaced by more categorical negative imperative “shall not extend” or “must not extend”, but the meaning is the same. Yes, it is lawyerese, but not that complex.
Just for the sake of making sure, I broke down the 2 sections into its logical components and represented it as a logical set (logic tables). I did not find a way how this could be construed as negating 1022. (b)(1) and/or (b)(2). Note that the extent (meaning non-applicability to the US citizens and lawful resident aliens) is defined in both sections 1021 and 1022, respectively.
I also let my father (a lawyer–one of the 5 % that the 95% are giving a bad name) pour over it, prior to putting it through logic tables. He mentioned a recursion that I initially missed, but pointed out that the inclusion 1022. (b)(1) and/or (b)(2) takes a care of any ambiguity.
Report Post »phil1765
Posted on January 30, 2012 at 3:44amBaddoggy
Report Post »I can understand how you feel, I felt the same way, but then I heard Col. West discussing it with Glenn Beck on the radio and I understood more where Col. West was coming from. I am still not comfortable with it, in the wrong hands and without checks and balances you are correct it could definitely be the beginning of the end, but with the right oversight it will actually work. I guess time will tell which will be the case. I can tell you though if I have to have someone in my corner it would be Col. West, he wouldn‘t have voted for it if he didn’t think that it was better for this country.
Twobyfour
Posted on January 30, 2012 at 3:55amSome additional comments.
1. Suspension of habeas corpus and civil liberties is provided within a framework of martial law. It is not required to create “sneaky” laws to achieve the same results.
2. I question the motivation these that claim that the sections 021 and 1022, respectively, provide for unconstitutional detentions of US citizens and/or lawful resident aliens.
Some people may be inclined to believe one authority or another and that’s understandable, the language of laws is not that easy to follow. But those that have a capacity to comprehend it and yet stick to the mentioned claim despite the evidence on the contrary–why?
For the most part, one segment that is adamant about this interpretation are Paul’s supporters. Is it possible that it is because they can scapegoat the candidates that voted for the bill and sway others that don’t have a clear idea what the sections 1021 and 1022 contain away from a candidate that they would have been inclined to vote for?
Report Post »phil1765
Posted on January 30, 2012 at 4:01amFreedomluver
Report Post »I understand your fears but I don’t think that the NDAA is everything that you crack it up to be, I heard Col West discussing it with Glenn Beck on his radio show and I came away with a different opnion of the bill. Glenn voiced the same type of concerns as you and I had and Col. West explained the thinking that led him to vote for it. I know this man wouldn‘t do anything that he didn’t think would help this nation and with real leaders in our Congress and the courts I don’t believe this will end up being what you believe it to be. I respect your opinion, alot of what you fear, I also feared in the beginning but I think if you do a little more research you might alleviate some of the stress that you have about the bill.
Twobyfour
Posted on January 30, 2012 at 4:23amphil1765, I too were apprehensive at first, it sounded like all hell broke loose based on the commentary here on the blaze. Then I downloaded the bill and read it. The interpretation put forth here by the bill detractors is not plausible even after hell freezes over.
Report Post »@leftfighter
Posted on January 30, 2012 at 5:49amWhy is he not running again?
Report Post »@leftfighter
Posted on January 30, 2012 at 5:54am@V-MAN MACE
If you can call what West did, “torture,” I guess you could have a point.
He fired a gun next to a terrorist’s ear. Big effin’ deal. Happens to me every time I go to a range. Did I mention that he got the information he needed (that he wouldn;t have otherwise goeetn) and saved American lives in the process?
He’s not a torturer. He’s Jack Bauer.
Report Post »RJL
Posted on January 30, 2012 at 6:18amAND TAKE WILLARD (its my turn to talk now) ROMNEY WITH YOU!!!!
Report Post »old white guy
Posted on January 30, 2012 at 6:35amdefinately a man i could vote for.
Report Post »justangry
Posted on January 30, 2012 at 6:55amAlright 2×4 will you ask your father how the NDAA will work once they pass the Enemy Expatriation Act to suppliment it?
Report Post »Jackers
Posted on January 30, 2012 at 8:06amGotta love him! Allen West is a man with character and a spine… He is not afraid to say it for what it is, and I salute West for his courage and integrity.
Report Post »justangry
Posted on January 30, 2012 at 8:44am@Twobyfour,
“For the most part, one segment that is adamant about this interpretation are Paul’s supporters. Is it possible that it is because they can scapegoat the candidates that voted for the bill and sway others that don’t have a clear idea what the sections 1021 and 1022 contain away from a candidate that they would have been inclined to vote for?”
Pardon my OCD over this, but after rereading your comments I’m left only with more questions. When I read the bill, I come to the same conclussions you do. Where my confidence gets rattled is even though I read it the same way as you, I see McCain, Levin, Graham on the floor saying that it means exactly what people are so pissed off about. I respect your father’s interpretation, but in this case, I’d argue that the authors of the bill may have a better understanding of the intent. I mean you really can’t argue with the following:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pD0GthpIgQw
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q6ARkiJM2bA
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G4Sn_UpGAGM
In other words, yes I’m a RP supporter who uses the NDAA to scapegoat candidates, but not because I interpret the law any different than you when reading it, but because the people who wrote damn thing say it means something completely different than OUR interpretation.
Report Post »V-MAN MACE
Posted on January 30, 2012 at 9:19amGPS-Tech
Stop making transsexual advances towards me. No matter how much pot I smoke, YOU aren’t getting any smarter, nor are you going to get this reaction.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rg1GbrdnuIw&feature=player_detailpage#t=359s
I know you associate words you cannot comprehend and sentence structure beyond that of kindergarten level to be “babbling”, but that’s ok. Stop drinking the tap water and maybe the fluoride will wear off, moron.
@leftfighter
You don’t get to decide what is torture for another person, understand? What is or is not considered torture is the prerogative of the person being tortured, not the person performing the torturing, and definitely NOT THE PEANUT GALLERY.
TwoByFour
You’re grasping at straws. Individuals with much more credibility and experience has determined that these provisions allow for the indefinite detainment and warrantless arrest of US Citizens, and your half-assed presentation is NOT convincing anyone.
Allen West voted for that BS, and that makes him a TRAITOR in my opinion. He can GTFO with Obama. I‘d bet he’d torture your dumb ass too… IN A FEMA CAMP.
Report Post »PA PATRIOT
Posted on January 30, 2012 at 9:20amHe carries a Colt .45 ACP
Report Post »That is enough for me.
Remember
Obama “We will punish our enemies”
Richatrd Trumka ” Let’s take these sons a bitches out”
Maxine Waters, “The Tea Party can go straight to hell”
That makes me and Colonel West a terrorist, and SOB.
I am proud to be in his company.
ProbIemSoIver
Posted on January 30, 2012 at 9:26am@TWObyFOUR
I acknowledge your understanding of the U.S. Goverment relations with OBL and the Taliban provided you didn’t copy and paste.
I have a gift.
My gift is to see past the irrelevant, insignificant B.S., and look at the bottom line.
I don’t get caught up in the frivilous details. What a waste of time and effort that is.
Here is the Bottom line:
We supplied ARMS. We provided MONEY and TRAINING. We were “ALLIES”.
Who’s Great idea was that?
We befriended them for what ?
To fight the Soviets.
Who’s Great idea was that ?
All we do is create complex disasters, getting involved in others affairs.
The foreign policy makers are complete IDIOTS !!!!
BOTTOM LINE !!!!
Report Post »USPATRIOT101
Posted on January 30, 2012 at 9:41amIt’s going to take someone as strong as Col. West to drive baracks kind out of the White House.
Report Post »mycomet123
Posted on January 30, 2012 at 10:12amCOUSIN OF MARX, I see a theme in your blog. I have a great suggestion for you. Want don’t you just GO TO HELL–I think you would be alot happier there!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Report Post »jzs
Posted on January 30, 2012 at 10:22amBilly, I’m disappointed in you. You should know better than to think calling me a “Marxist” makes an argument of some kind. Besides, I would have thought you’d learned the meaning of that term by now. I‘m not impressed when people use words they haven’t learned yet.
If you want to live in a country where there are a handful of billionaires and the rest of the country is dirt poor, if that’s your definition of “freedom,” then go live in Russia why don’t cha. And take West with you.
Also, there are other liberal posters here, why are you dogging only me? Man crush?
Report Post »V-MAN MACE
Posted on January 30, 2012 at 10:30amLeader1776
You’re a slanderous nincompoop, but that was funny as hell, though. I almost died.
Report Post »USANUMBERONE
Posted on January 30, 2012 at 11:06amAllen West all American. GOD BLESS YOU.
Report Post »MIBUGNU2
Posted on January 30, 2012 at 11:24amJZS and encinom
Report Post »Gotta’ Be Huff-Po Libotards..If you think this foursome mentioned
by Rep. West are reputable, Just keep drinking the Kool-Aid…….
GOOD GAWD !!!!
Freedomluver
Posted on January 30, 2012 at 11:47am@Twobyfour
What you have seemingly finally recognized is the fact that this bill basically declares martial law. The reality of the matter is there is no officially declared war, and do you really think martial law is necessary when existing laws that pre-date even the Patriot Act would certainly suffice?
What you are apparently missing is this law removes the right to a trial by jury, which is the pretty much the only thing left the founders put in place to safegard our liberties.
You question my motives, and I question yours. What I see is a bunch of out of control law makers who are systematically dismantling the BoR, because they fear what may soon happen when their own economic policies finally come to a head, and they feel the need to have the legal details in place once the crap hits the fan.
Do you not notice how we are rapidly expanding the police state, and Big Brother tentacles are quickly getting out of control?
East Germany could only dream of having the surveillance tools that our own government is now using on citizens who have done nothing to warrant their actions, and it does not help when we have those like yourself who repeat the doublespeak that is being used to slowly bring us frogs to a boil.
Think about it.
Report Post »Freedomluver
Posted on January 30, 2012 at 12:01pm@justangry
Thanks for the links!
When you put this law into perspecive by adding it to other laws that clearly demonstate the fact that Big Brother is expanding his reach, it all fits together.
The powers that be are frightened by what’s coming, and they don’t trust the jury system that can ignore their absuses of absolute power, so they passes a law that bypasses this most basic of rights.
There is no logical reason for not simpy using laws that already existed to prosecute those who mean us harm, unless of course you don’t trust the people to come to the “correct” conclusion.
“When governments fear the people, there is liberty. When the people fear the government, there is tyranny.”
Report Post »Thomas Jefferson
George Patton
Posted on January 30, 2012 at 12:16pmNothing BADDOGGY says is credible. In the blaze story about “doomsday preppers” BADDOGGY claims he would murder members of his family if they come to him for aid. Here is the quote referring to his family: “They also know not to come over and beg. They also know i will shoot them if they try anything dumb.”
Typical paulbot
Allen West is a patriot no matter what paulbots like baddoggy think.
Report Post »Freedomluver
Posted on January 30, 2012 at 12:17pm@justangry
Thanks for the links!
When you put this law into perspecive by adding it to other laws that clearly demonstate the fact that Big Brother is expanding his reach, it all fits together.
The way I see it is powers that be are frightened by what’s coming, and they don’t trust the jury system that can ignore their abuses of absolute power by making these crazy law null and void via jury nullification, so they pass laws that bypasses this most basic of rights.
There is no logical reason for not simpy using laws that already existed to prosecute those who mean us harm, unless of course you don’t trust the people to come to the “correct” conclusion.
“When governments fear the people, there is liberty. When the people fear the government, there is tyranny.”
Report Post »Thomas Jefferson
George Patton
Posted on January 30, 2012 at 12:28pmAlso beware of VMAN MACE. He is also apparently bloodthirsty and seems excited by the possibility of chaos. See above comments where he equates Allen west supporters with Nazis and claims he will murder you if you are one when the time comes. Here is the quote from him “…you Nazi apologists and fools. You get a long distance patdown with 5.56 rounds. And don‘t come running to me thinking I’m going to save you, dummy. I’ll relieve you of your misery.”
Another typical peace loving paulbot who claims everyone else is a warmonger.
Paulbots and liberals share a similar definition of peace: the death of everyone who disagrees with them.
Report Post »Twobyfour
Posted on January 30, 2012 at 12:48pmjustangry, the second clip of the three is interesting (about administration’s request to remove the clauses about US citizens and resident aliens).
My interpretation is that this request happened before the final draft and was in effect denied by legislators. It thus seems that the references to “bad” NDAA predate the final draft that contains the clauses.
I wouldn’t put it past Obamarchy trying to slip in something nefarious. But it seems that this time the congresscritters did the job they are supposed to do.
There are some other areas that need attention–which is the means of stripping someone of US citizenship. I am aware that there has been a bill S.3081 in 2010, but it did not pass through the litmus test of the judiciary.
In summary, people should be vigilant and it is necessary to read bills passed by legislature to see if something is contravening the spirit of Constitution and Bill of Rights.
However, since the bill wording does include these clauses, bashing the representatives that voted for it in its FINAL form is actually counterproductive. It creates an unnecessary division, and I don’t have to point finger at who benefits, ultimately.
Report Post »sscomment
Posted on January 30, 2012 at 12:54pmNo, they cannot. Read the bill. See section1021(b)(1) and (2), 1021(e) and Section 1022(a)(2) and 1022(b)(1) and (2).
Report Post »Twobyfour
Posted on January 30, 2012 at 1:09pmProbIemSoIver
“I acknowledge your understanding of the U.S. Goverment relations with OBL and the Taliban provided you didn’t copy and paste.”
No. I know the background, no need to copy and paste.
“I have a gift.
My gift is to see past the irrelevant, insignificant B.S., and look at the bottom line.
I don’t get caught up in the frivilous details. What a waste of time and effort that is.”
I think that a claim that we funded and set up Al-Qaeda is rather significant. It’s not a frivolous detail. It’s a BS.
As for funding and supplying weapons to Afghan resistance… Soviets did the same, either directly or through their intermediaries, in different places. Vietnam, Angola, San Salvador and so on. Welcome to the real world. Wishing it all being peachy does not wish away the real part.
I’ve my own beef with the State Department policies. They seem to have a worldview that is very often colored by wishful thinking rather than based on reality.
Report Post »riverdog1
Posted on January 30, 2012 at 1:23pmthanks mr facists idiot. or would mr. west turn the US into a military dictatorship. idiot!
Report Post »Freedomluver
Posted on January 30, 2012 at 1:31pm@George Patton
Paint with a broad brush much?
As for Mr. West, perhaps he simply lacks the knowledge to comprehend what he votes in favor of, but the NDAA is about as bad of a bill as is imaginable, and certainly the worst bill passed in my lifetime.
There is a bill that’s been introduced by Ron Paul that removes the dubious part of the NDAA, so would you be in favor of supporting this bill?
http://current.com/community/93624428_ron-paul-introduces-legislation-to-strike-ndaa-s-unconstitutional-section-1021.htm
If not, why?
Also, do you believe that that Patriot Act is constitutional, and what the DHS/TSA has been up to is acceptable?
Please…do tell.
Report Post »Twobyfour
Posted on January 30, 2012 at 1:40pmFreedomluver
“What you have seemingly finally recognized is the fact that this bill basically declares martial law. ”
You are putting words in my mouth. No. I’ve never said or implied that. It doesn’t. All I said is that what you and some others imply that what is in the bill (and is not there) is already covered by martial law provisions.
It does not mean that attempts can’t/won’t be made in such a manner (the request of administration to remove the clauses covering US citizens and resident aliens is an example), but as it stands in the final form, it is not possible to misuse the bill in the form you suggest, taking into account existing laws.
As for East Germany’s Stasi, you’ve no idea how truly police state it was. They did not need gadgets, they had 12% of the population plugged in surveillance. They also employed people good at analysis of data–you can have all the gadgetry you want but if someone can’t make sense of the data, what good it is?
I lived in one of these countries for 30 years. I know a police state first hand. US is not a police state. That is not to say that there isn’t a gradual creep in that direction. But crying wolf where there isn’t one is not rational. It creates false flags and self-perpetuated misdirections that can distract from intents that are truly out there.
Report Post »scoot915
Posted on January 30, 2012 at 1:56pmI agree that Mr. West is an amazing American. However, his outspoken criticism WILL make him a huge target for the left. If we really believe in him, we MUST send him money to fund his re-election. Remember that if everyone sends even a few dollars, it will add up to lots in the end. I’m not rich, but I try to send him $10 or $15 dollars when I can. Please try to support him if you can. Eat one less fast food meal and send it to him. It will make you feel good, and it will help keep a great American in office and defeat the left!!! God Bless You All!
Report Post »obgone
Posted on January 30, 2012 at 2:05pmAmen, I have liked this guy from the moment I first heard him speak. I am a Middle Class White American who would support this guy all the way to the White House
Report Post »Freedomluver
Posted on January 30, 2012 at 2:07pm@@Twobyfour
Sorry, but you are simply wrong in your analysis.
Would you take Rush Limbaugh’s word for it, because he agrees with me?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yTrPDicHjJQ&feature=related
What you did say earlier is that martial law allows for the powers that I claim are granted in the NDAA, and you simply don’t believe this is the case…eh?
Do you deny the fact that American citizens can be detained indefinitely?
Do you deny the fact that you have no right as a citizen to a civilain trial under this law?
Can you explain just why Obama clearly stated in his signing statement that he had no intention of using the provisions in this bill that are objectionable? Why on earth would he claim his unwillingness to use something if it’s not even in the bill in the first place?
Given your position on this bill, one would have to assume that you find the so called Patriot Act in step with the BoR as well, or am I incorrect in my hypothesis?
As for East Germany, they had no technology that would allow them to listen to every phone call, every text, every e-mail, and every post on the web to aide their police state, so your analysis is a little naive…don’t you think? Technology is far more capable than you seem willing to admit.
What I find irrational is to watch the tools being put into place to create true tyranny, while acting like it’s no big deal. That my friend is how tyrants are born.
Report Post »George Patton
Posted on January 30, 2012 at 2:10pm@freedomluver
My comments have nothing to do with the patriot act. My comments are in regard to 2 posters on here who threaten to kill other people in their posts.
Baddoggy has claimed he will murder his family members who seek aid from him in hard times.
vman-mace claims he will murder those who agree with Allen West if he gets the chance in a revolution. Then in a later post he alludes to murdering me if I get too close to him and he also says this: “I’m not bloodthirsty, but I am extremely anxious and excited about the prospect of revolution.”
He is anxious about revolution? This is truly a person with blood-lust. The founders were not anxious for revolution…it was with heavy hearts they revolted…they weren’t giddy over it.
If this is not the typical paul supporter why do you not come down on him, instead you come down on me for pointing out that their violent rhetoric is over the top?
Really!…murdering family members for begging for food is morally ok???
Being excited about the prospect of murdering people simply because they support Allen West who supported a bill you are against…this is morally ok???
This is wickedness.
Report Post »Rillobymorning
Posted on January 30, 2012 at 2:17pmA great man, indeed. Wish he would have run for POTUS, or would at least consider VP.
Report Post »girlnurse
Posted on January 30, 2012 at 2:21pmWatch what they DO (vote for NDAA)-NOT what they say…
Report Post »lillymckim
Posted on January 30, 2012 at 2:31pmDo you know what the Florida legislature is doing? They are writing Allen West’s district out of existence.
He has a target on his back.
If you live in the State of Florida get on the phone to your Representative and Senator and blast and give them hell if you agree with what this courageous man stands for !!!
Report Post »Doin it for da Chilren
Posted on January 30, 2012 at 2:44pmthe Goldman Sachs building, hahaha thats too funny
Report Post »Therightsofbilly
Posted on January 30, 2012 at 3:04pmJZS says:
“Also, there are other liberal posters here, why are you dogging only me? Man crush?”
I’m sorry JZS, up until now, I have never seen anything that would suggest you were a man.
I will make a note of that in my……..what’s that thing you said I must be keeping? Kind of a French sounding word if I recall.
And JZS, if you think you are the only lefty that I “dog”, that just proves that you are here only to track your own posts, and pay little attention to anything else that goes on around here.
Report Post »Polwatcher
Posted on January 30, 2012 at 3:08pmThe establishment Republicans are gerrymandering his district to eliminate him as a Congressman.
Report Post »schlitten15
Posted on January 30, 2012 at 3:13pmYou go Rep. West! I have said this years ago that Harry Reid and Queen Nancy need to go. These people are not good for this country and take Obama with you.
Report Post »mike1956will
Posted on January 30, 2012 at 3:29pmKTsayz
Report Post »Posted on January 29, 2012 at 10:07am
Not only did he vote for the NDAA, he voted for Pigford – the huge redistribution of wealth scheme.
Hey dick!, the Pigford case was settled in 1997 before West was elected to Congress.
……get the facts right!
Pigford vs. Glickman
“In 1997, 400 African-American farmers sued the United States Department of Agriculture, alleging that they had been unfairly denied USDA loans due to racial discrimination during the period 1983 to 1997.”
The case was entitled “Pigford vs. Glickman” and in 1999, the black farmers won their case.
The government agreed to pay each of them as much as $50,000 to settle their claims.
But then on February 23, 2010, something shocking happened in relation to that original judgment: In total silence, the USDA agreed to release more funds to “Pigford
Freedomluver
Posted on January 30, 2012 at 4:01pm@George Patton
You said…
“Paulbots and liberals share a similar definition of peace: the death of everyone who disagrees with them.”
Now since I am a backer of Dr. Paul, I objected to you painting everyone who backs him as some kind of rabid nutcase, which I assure you I am not.
What you did was to attempt to project others thoughts and apply them to everyone in the Paul camp who does not agree with your positions, and that is simply intellectually dishonest…so I called you on it.
The only posts I’m responsible for are those of my own, and I reserve the right to call out anyone who attempts to paint me with words I’ve never backed or spoken.
You like West, fine, however I find his line of reasoning when it comes to protecting the Bill of Rights to be fatally flawed and downright misinformed and dangerous at best, and possibly even downright disingenuous.
I can not stand with someone who backs laws that spit on the Bill of Rights, and I will do everthing in my limited power to see to it that the truth of what he stands with is exposed for the evil that it is.
Without the BoR, there is nothing to stop true evil from taking control, so if you really are worried about evil, don’t back those who are in a position to bring it.
Report Post »*****
Posted on January 30, 2012 at 4:18pmI hope so tooooo!
Report Post »Steven63
Posted on January 30, 2012 at 4:31pmIf he voted for the NDAA, as BADDOGGY says, Rep. West is no different than any other politician – he will say whatever he thinks the voters want to hear. In other words he is a politician – he lies.
Don’t judge the man by his words, judge him by his actions. The NDAA is blatantly UN-Constitutional. Any half wit can see that. If you like this man for his speeches you are being duped. Again.
Report Post »jzs
Posted on January 30, 2012 at 5:15pmBilly, first of all, how many women do you know that who hunt and kill deer and wild hogs using nothing but stealth and bare hands? Not many, but there are a few. But you’re right, I don’t give out personal information and am not about to start. So I could be either male or female. So if you have a crush, you’ll never know what kind.
Second, the word is “dossier.” It’s the French word for “communist.”
Third, usually there is little difference between on post and the next, except when people try to outwit one another with the cleverest insult, if “outwit” is the right word. Generally if you’ve read one post, you’ve read them all. Like the Borg.
Report Post »Twobyfour
Posted on January 30, 2012 at 5:47pmSteven63: ” The NDAA is blatantly UN-Constitutional. Any half wit can see that.”
Enlighten us, oh wise one! Please be specific what in the bill is unconstitutional and how it could be used.
In general…
I found a copy that is final (the one I cited from was a final draft) and saw the wording changed from “does not” to “shall not”. That satisfies some of my concerns.
Now, the only problem would be if, as according to Rush, the clauses covering US citizens and resident aliens were removed per Obamastration request. But that does not seem to be the case. The bill is a law in the form I found it. So, I am not sure what was that commentary of Obama about.
@Justangry : “Alright 2×4 will you ask your father how the NDAA will work once they pass the Enemy Expatriation Act to suppliment it?”
A good point. Thought about it. If EEA ever comes to floor…let‘s just say they don’t want to try me. They wouldn’t like me at all.
Report Post »thorp
Posted on January 30, 2012 at 5:52pmGooooo Allen………that was fantastic……….
Report Post »ibthumper
Posted on January 30, 2012 at 6:17pmI agree. Nuff said.
Report Post »SpeckChaser
Posted on January 30, 2012 at 7:57pm@jzs
You said”by cutting their taxes and raising your is “patriotic.”
I know you were told the bush tax cuts that lowered every single income earner’s taxes were only “tax cuts for the rich,” and you fell for it, but The democrats are the only ones targeting certain classes of people for disproportionate tax rates.
Report Post »Therightsofbilly
Posted on January 30, 2012 at 7:58pmJZS
You just did not give me much to work with in that post.
Outside of your first sentence leaving the door wide open to make a joke about Wasserman Schultz.
But I won’t go there, being the Gentleman, oooops I mean Gentleperson I am.
But I’m sure you can decipher the punch line if you try.
Report Post »jzs
Posted on January 30, 2012 at 9:45pmspeckchaser, perhaps you can tell me the benefit the United States saw from the Bush tax cuts, which disproportionately helped the richest. Job growth? No. Improved economy? No. Increases Laffer curve government revenue? No. Increased deficit? Duh, yeah. Not sure of your point.
Billy, lay off Wasserman who I personally think is hot. You’re offending me. And yeah, she and I have done a little hunting together, so what? Got a problem with that?
Go organize people to act and vote as a group – like a union – or something. Trotskyite.
Report Post »George Patton
Posted on January 31, 2012 at 8:07am@freedomluver
You are an idiot. I point out that people on your side (those who support paul) are calling for murder and revolution, and you refuse to denounce them. Instead you denounce me for saying this is representative of paul supporters. Yet you prove that IT IS representative of paul supporters by your refusal to denounce them. Your silence and unwillingness to condemn such statements is tacit approval of them.
Have fun wallowing in the filth of your fellow paulbots.
Report Post »SpeckChaser
Posted on January 31, 2012 at 5:40pmJZS
The “disproportionately helped the rich” and “Increased deficit” part of your post show a very little understanding concerning the subject.
We discussed the results of Bush’s tax cuts before. I gave links and graphs, from the CBO, showing a positive impact on the economy. You said my source wasn’t credible.
I asked before with no response but would it be fair if one making 20K got a 100% tax cut while one earning 10M receive a 1% tax cut? You could still, as you are, incorrectly claim the rich received a disproportionate benefit. Those with limited understanding would probably agree with you.
You have yet to explain how taking money out of the economy via taxation will grow the economy while keeping money in the economy via lower taxation will shrink it.
Concerning Wassermann, she would probably be a good catch for you. Sorry, couldn’t resist.
Report Post »mole-six
Posted on April 11, 2012 at 4:41pmBarak, Nancy, and Harry should all go live with Hugo in Venezuela …
Report Post »SELECT
Posted on April 19, 2012 at 5:45pmSome of you folks are nutz. Complaining about ndaa when the air port search and strip idiots are really reducing your freedoms. Mr. West is a smart man and i think he is a hero and is willing to stand his ground on your behalf regardless of what it does for him personally.
Report Post »Mighty Quinn
Posted on January 29, 2012 at 7:56amI think that’s what they call “Truth to power”! Scream it if you have to Mr. West!
Report Post »oldironsides
Posted on January 29, 2012 at 8:06amyour post must have appeared as i typed- brilliant minds think alike –
Report Post »freedom and liberty for all !
islamhater
Posted on January 29, 2012 at 9:13amHe voted for NDAA. ACTION‘S speek louder than any word’s. I’m sick of false speeches. We already have a smooth talker in the W.H. i sure as hell don’t want another one. How did the American people get so stupid?
Report Post »Freedomluver
Posted on January 29, 2012 at 9:46am@islamhater
You are sooooo right. It never ceases to amaze me that many of the folks right here on the Blaze will whine and cry about the immoral and unconstitutional actions of the TSA, while they praise and vote for someone who’s voting record proves they are responsible for it!
We are well on the road to becoming a full blown Police State, and the sheeple keep voting for the ones who hand them the links of the chain to enslave them, as they grab their own hammer and anvil and start pounding.
WAKE UP FOLKS!
Ron Paul 2012
Report Post »ProbIemSoIver
Posted on January 29, 2012 at 10:35amWEST ???
Report Post »FREEDOM and LIBERTY ????
Have you been under a rock ????
Google: NDAA
He’d better pack his bags and high-tail it, before the 2-million man march happens in Washington.
GoodStuff
Posted on January 29, 2012 at 12:39pmOh, you silly Paulbots whining about NDAA…a bill that is voted on EVERY YEAR!
We’ve had the Patriot Act for 10 years, have any of you been thrown in jail for criticizing your gov’t?
West has already explained his vote on NDAA, check the link below and take a pill:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w5KJPm2b-v8&feature=player_embedded
Report Post »lukerw
Posted on January 29, 2012 at 2:01pmWhy take a Side? West can be led around by the Washington Establishment and vote for NDAA… and Paul forgets that if we do not fight wars in Foreign Lands, we will fight them Here!
Report Post »MIBUGNU2
Posted on January 29, 2012 at 4:30pmRefreshing to see someone with the ballz to call out this SLIME..
Report Post »Thank You Rep. WEST.. OORAH !!!!!!!
Moozmom
Posted on January 29, 2012 at 7:55amMr. West might want to add George Soros to his list (financial terrorist), but George practices his financial meltdowns of countries whereve he resides. Another great export would be islamic terrorists, shutting down their training camps in America, traitors (not those who just “speak” about bringing down this nation), but those who are actively practicing bringing it down and that includes those member of congress, executive branch and judicial branch acting in any manner to bring down America’s economy or moral standards. Anyone in office not practicing uplifting moral standards should be deported.
Report Post »NHwinter
Posted on January 29, 2012 at 8:15amTake the Hollywood elites with them! Cleanse our country of all the Communists and Progressives.
Report Post »Freedomluver
Posted on January 29, 2012 at 9:54amSince the Bill of Rights is the basis of law and morality in our government, it is clear that West is immoral, and a traitor.
It’s amazing to see folks who are so blinded by rhetoric, they fail to see the actions that prove the opposite.
The so called Patriot Act, the NDAA, and the Beast created by these agencies spit on the Bill of Rights, and West is in favor of such insanity.
You West supporters need to get your heads out of the sand and stand for the Bill of
Report Post »Rights…while you still can.
Hossua
Posted on January 29, 2012 at 10:52amWhile I do not agree with Mr. Soros’ politics, he is merely trying to bring about reform. What he wants to reform our busted system into is illogical, and he is a bad bad man for going about in the way he has.
Report Post »However, he is not the root problem.
michael48
Posted on January 29, 2012 at 12:02pmhossua…Hitler brought about change….our system is fine…the mass of an over active government mixed with blatant gumba , mafia corruption needs eliminating…to many thugs ie; seatwarmers…why do we need to watch these idiots 24/7 ??? at some point , it’s no longer about THEM…after all, WE PAY THE BILLS….
Report Post »Mark
Posted on January 29, 2012 at 7:53amfirst of all
Report Post »I want to know why that post on here don’t use real name. All I see are nick names or call names. WHAT are you afraid of?
Now as for this amazing speech from our next POTUS . I salute you and can’t wait for next one. GREAT JOB !!!
nanzofsc
Posted on January 29, 2012 at 9:00amWest/Rubio – great ticket!
Report Post »Rob
Posted on January 29, 2012 at 9:17amhi Mark
NancyBee
Posted on January 29, 2012 at 10:08amMark who? Last name please…
Report Post »hidden_lion
Posted on January 29, 2012 at 10:50amNo real names? Why don’t you include your last name in your screen name too, there are lots of Marks in the world, oh and while your at it, post your address and phone number. Actually you wouldn’t need to post that, because with your name, It can be found quite easily on the multiple search engines available on the web along with a google map right to your front door…..
Report Post »Anymore questions?
Psychosis
Posted on January 29, 2012 at 10:59amplease state your full name , address and federal number like a good comrade
Report Post »Vickie Dhaene
Posted on January 29, 2012 at 11:49amI commend Allen West for his bravery. I am very proud of him and Marco Rubio for representing all us who live in Florida and hoping our Republic lasts long enough to see these two men lead our country back to the Glory it used to be.
Report Post »Kiba
Posted on January 29, 2012 at 2:06pmReal names? Oh I see like yours “Mark” right? Oh yea, aint but a couple of them in this country. And the fact that someone would be a complete fool to use their real name on the internet anymore I sure has nothing to do with it either. I dont think I would consider myself real brave to toss out some alledged first name either. lol. Geesh…
Report Post »Kiba
Posted on January 29, 2012 at 5:36pmlol I cant get over someone using the name “Mark” PERIOD and whining about people using a real names. OK you win, Im Bob! lol. Geesh it takes all kinds.
Report Post »FeliciaJewel
Posted on January 29, 2012 at 7:53amHe is so right! We need more leaders like him to stand up for America.
Report Post »PeachyinGA
Posted on January 29, 2012 at 8:46amYes we do. We need a chorus of leaders and citizens to echo his message.
Report Post »chewfatlip
Posted on January 29, 2012 at 10:12amWest must be doing something right to have the progressives and the ronulans hate him.
Report Post »Freedomluver
Posted on January 29, 2012 at 10:21am@chewfatlip
If you consider standing for the destrucion of the Bill of Rights the right thing to do, you need to step back and ask yourself some serious questions.
So you would have voted for allowing Obama to declare anyone a terrorist that he pleases, while leaving no way to fight for YOUR right to a trial by Jury?
Seriously?
Some people never cease to amaze me.
Report Post »Country Publius
Posted on January 30, 2012 at 2:38pmi have a question for freedomlover and other posters who are making such a racket about the defense authorization act, and it is this:
Have you even “read” the act?
i have, and my opinion is that those trying to make a big deal out of West’s vote for or against it either have not read it, …or are merely trolls visiting from HufPo or MediaMatters.
The full text is available. …i recommend you read it.
…And as for the posts declaring that Lt. Col. West voted for “torture” …I’m sure you stand with Pelosi, Reid and company in denouncing the horrible, detestable, outrageous, inhumane, unforgivable use of women’s panties to adorn the heads of blood-thirsty murderers and terrorists. Good for you! The wacko left needs the dependable support your ignorance supplies.
Report Post »( I can hear the cries of the “tortured” already: “Oh my God, PLEASE pull out my fingernails or push sticks through my eyes or tie me to a light post and cut out my tongue or sodomize me with a broomstick or even feed me slowly feet-first into a hog fuel grinder, …just please, Please, PLEASE don’t put those panties on my head!!! Or keep me warm, well, safe and dry until the end of the conflict!! WOOOOooooooHoooohooooo!”)
Freedomluver
Posted on January 30, 2012 at 5:54pm@Country Publius
I’ve read the parts of the NDAA that are the center of the controversy and yes, it does allow for Obama to declare anyone a terrorist he pleases, he can have you arrested with no warrant, and you have no right to a trial….period.
Perhaps you should do a little more reading and then show is the part of the text that says you have a right to a trial by your peers?
Heck, even Santorum has come out and said that he thought Habeas corpus should have been included in this monstrosity, and even that right does not guarantee a trial for Pete’s sake.
Then, how about explaining just why Obama said he would not make use of the controversial provisions, rather than claiming what you did by saying these provisions are not in the NDAA. Why on earth would Obama say he would not use what’s not there in the first place?
That makes no sense..now does it.
Hopefully you will wake up are realize just how wrong you are when you read the law more carefully…or perhaps it will finally come to you when you are standing in line waiting to go to a ball game, and the DHS pulls your kid out of line for a nice little NWO strip search, and you get to watch helplessly. Then and only then will you realize we are marching towards a full blown police state, and you heroes in the party did nothing to save you…not only that, but they convinced you to vote for it by blindly praising them.
Some people simply must learn the hard way I guess…
So sad…
Report Post »D-Fence
Posted on January 29, 2012 at 7:52amRight on brother! Oath Keepers keep pushin’!
Report Post »Freedomluver
Posted on January 29, 2012 at 10:02amWhat about his oath to preserve and protect the Constitution?
West’s rhetoric sounds dandy, but his voting record proves he has no use for the Bill of Rights.
Would you seriously consider voting for someone who openly spits on the Bill of Rights, simply because of a few words that sound good?
Report Post »the58thstate
Posted on January 29, 2012 at 7:52amis west the only one with a set of nads? i bet the establishment turtles up when they here this. they dont understand the mood of the american people. i think its great to have west and rubio out there speaking conservative views. they can say things and not get branded a racist and it kills the left. i wish more american blacks and hispanics would let the conservative message in. their lives would be so much better and happier.
Report Post »KTsayz
Posted on January 29, 2012 at 10:10amVoting FOR the NDAA is NOT the conservative message I want spread around.
Report Post »Hossua
Posted on January 29, 2012 at 10:57amAre all you people hired propagandists, or are you really that stupid?
Report Post »BeckIgnoresConstitution
Posted on January 29, 2012 at 2:02pm@the58thstate
West won’t dare address the usurpation of the presidency! http://obamabirthcertificate.net Rubio won‘t admit he’s ineligible. So much for ethics.
Beck & TheBlaze also ignore Obama’s ineligibility and identity fraud! Did you read about the historic 1/26/2012 GA eligibility case at TheBlaze? Nope, Beck censored it out!
The Constitution, Art. 2, Sec. 1, states “No person except a natural born citizen, or a Citizen of the United States, at the time of the Adoption of this Constitution, shall be eligible … .”
Exempting a “citizen” from being a “natural born citizen” (NBC) proves they aren’t equal, or no exemption was needed. If they are not equal, then a NBC must be either less than or greater than a citizen. Citizenship is a component of a NBC, so a NBC is not less than a citizen. Therefore a NBC must be greater than a citizen. The pertinent minimal requirement for citizenship at the time was one born in the US to a US citizen parent, leaving just one possibility. Only US birth to US citizen parents (plural) is greater.
Thus our constitution logically defines a natural born citizen! Obama’s Kenyan father precludes his eligibility!
The Supreme Court agreed in Minor v. Happersett, 1874. “The Court held that Minor was a member of the “class” of persons who were natural born citizens. They defined this class as those born in the US to “parents” (plural) who were citizens.” – Donofrio, JD.
Report Post »RepubliCorp
Posted on January 30, 2012 at 2:28amKTSAYZ paulbots – mixed wing-nuts and commies , on 3 day pass
Report Post »http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bJwBob0Bs48
kickagrandma
Posted on January 29, 2012 at 7:51amMy first choice for President of the United States of America. When he wouldn’t run, I then backed Herman Cain, a Christian, a businessman and an AMERICAN. However, now Cain’s support of newt takes Cain off my shelf complete. newt is just another sleazy politician. B A R F! (For all politicians).
PLEASE, ALLEN WEST, step up to the plate and run. We need you. AMERICA needs you.
Thank you for standing up to the unAMERICAN leaders trying to destroy our country.
GOD BLESS AND PROTECT YOU AND yours in JESUS’ SWEET, MIGHTY name.
May GOD BLESS AMERICA AGAIN!
Report Post »loriann12
Posted on January 29, 2012 at 8:04amAllen West was my first choice, as well as Herman Cain being my second choice. I have defaulted to Newt over the others still in the race. If the establishment kicked him out, there must be something good about him. I don’t mind about his personal mistakes, we all make them. Maybe he’s a magnet for bad people….I have an ex-husband who I dreamed would come after me for 10 years (it’s been 26 years). Yes, he has a temper, but that could be good, too. And when one doesn’t know what is going to come out of his mouth, it means it’s not scripted, like our current pretender in chief.
Report Post »kickagrandma
Posted on January 29, 2012 at 8:25amAnyone else notice the image on the drape behind Lt. Col. (Ret.) Allen West or was it just me?
Report Post »GOWEST2012
Posted on January 29, 2012 at 8:48amAs you can see by my username, I totally agree. This is the defining election of our lifetime, and our choices are uninspiring!
Report Post »justangry
Posted on January 29, 2012 at 11:56am@Kickagrama, He isn’t fit to serve in congress.
Report Post »Kiba
Posted on January 29, 2012 at 2:23pmI figure Cain and the Ging have a little something worked-out, as in “Gingrich / Cain” tickett. I had faith in Caine for awhile there and actually listened to his radio show from Atlanta every night and people would call in droves begging him to run for President and he finally decided to. I was listening to it when he gave it away one night when talking about the election, he said “a dark horse might just show-up on the scene, lets just put it that way” and kinda left it blank but everyone knew he had made his decision to run. He is an exceptionally brilliant man and was actually a rockett-scientist that used to calculate distances for missles and guidence systems and stuff and that is why I would get so mad and scream at the T.V. when ppl like that dam Chris Matthews and that other dude Maddow would referr to him as “the pizza guy” while chuckling and trying to demean and belittle him. I swear it just kills me how those very same people call anyone who disagrees with Obama for any reason a ‘blatant racist!” and ‘someone who just doesnt like a black man in the white house’ yet they treated Herrman Cain like some yard jockey or shoe-shine boy or something. That was the most blatant display of out-right racism and hipocracy I have ever seen in my life! But like G.B. said on his show a couple days ago and I have been saying all along and that is “the truth doesnt matter”. And when that doesnt matter whats left?
Report Post »grandmaof5
Posted on January 29, 2012 at 7:51amThank you Col. West for saying what “We the People” have been thinking! Thank you for your service to this great country and for your service to Florida. We now need to rally and get rid of Bill Nelson, our work is just beginning and we will stand behind, or beside you, all the way back to Washington in 2012. You are a great patriot.
Report Post »eaglesview
Posted on January 29, 2012 at 7:51amThe 53% better get off their duffs in November and go vote, cuz everyone of the sponges and then some will be voting to take more from us. Well spoken Mr. West.
Report Post »Lestrad
Posted on January 30, 2012 at 4:03pmThe sponges? Oh you mean the bank executives who took 3 trillion of the taxpayer’s money and gave themselves multi-million bonuses.
Report Post »dullsville
Posted on January 29, 2012 at 7:51amWhy, oh why, isn’t he running for POTUS?
Report Post »majasdad
Posted on January 29, 2012 at 12:40pmBecause he wouldn’t stand a chance in Hell to get elected. Yes, I said Hell.
Report Post »C’mon man, he’s an effing maniac.
ForceOfOne
Posted on January 29, 2012 at 7:51am100% agree!!!!!!!!! i’m so glad someone out there in the political spectrum has the testicular fortitude to tell these communists to get out….i’m so sick of everyone sugar-coating their criticisms of obama. who cares if he plays the race card??? let him play it all the way back home to kenya. this is the United States of America…not some neo-marxist/socialist/Communist hellhole…once again..get out.
Report Post »Lestrad
Posted on January 30, 2012 at 11:44amObama is a communist? And John D. Rockefeller was a Bolshevick. LOL. Obama is as much for the Big Money as any of your Republicans, who are traditionally defenders of Big Business. He’s just as much Wall St.‘s man as any of ’em. Now you want an Army guy. When are we going to elect a real working Man as President, that has really known what it’s like to have calluses on your hands and respects hard work, not these parasite politician welfare cases who never learned any trade or profession other than twisting the truth? When are we going to stop being taken in by them? The more money is at stake, the more they lie.
Report Post »lukerw
Posted on January 29, 2012 at 7:51amI love his speeches… but not his voting record!
Report Post »trolltrainer
Posted on January 29, 2012 at 8:21amAbout his, or anyone’s voting record, just remember that he knows things we do not. He may have had good reason to vote for the Patriot Act. Look at all the others who did also.
West is not a Libertarian, he is a conservative Republican. He believes in a strong military and more government power and involvement than Libertarians.
It seems to me that, as a people, we are getting too caught up in small details and neglecting to look at the candidate/person as a whole. West is an honorable, God fearing man with great integrity. I may not always agree with him but I respect him and would follow him. He would make a great POTUS.
Report Post »jnobfan
Posted on January 29, 2012 at 8:58amI campaigned for AW. Gave up my money and time – went and cheered at his speeches – he is the best I have ever seen except for Jessie Jackson. Told me what I wanted hear and then went to Washington and voted to give 60K to 125,000 black farmers who were supossedly denied loans in the 60′s even though there were only 25k black farmers.
Report Post »He supported the bill that can get you or me detained at Gitmo FOREVER without a day in court.
My e-mails to him now get generic replies with a follow up plea for donantions.
Is he better than Ron Klein? Of course. Is he making a difference in Washington? Not so far.
Is he making a lot of noise and news to get re-elected? Here we are.
Just like the rest of the GOP field except for Dr Paul. Who deserves your protest vote on Tuesday.
Come November I will hold my nose and vote for every RINO on the ballot and they know it but this Tuesday we actually can cast a protest vote. Vote for RP. Let the RINOS know we are getting closer every year to vomiting them out of our system.
Conservative New Yorker
Posted on January 29, 2012 at 9:59am@ Trolltrainer- couldn’t agree more. We will never agree totally with a politician but if he/she has character, loves our country and it’s people and defends the Constitution, then I am behind that person. And yes, I think he is privy to info that we don’t have and thus has a different view of the situation.
Report Post »Freedomluver
Posted on January 29, 2012 at 10:52am@Conservative New Yorker & Trolltrainer
How can you claim someone is defending the Constitution when they vote to trash it?
You are willing to burn the Bill of Rights because someone MAY know something that you don’t?
You are willing to watch your children being strip searched by the DHS for the simple right to go to a ball game?
I can’t believe how many COWARDS there are who call themselves conservatives.
Old Adolph used the exact same kind of rhetoric to create his beloved Police state, and apparently you have learned nothing from history.
You chase a Boggie Man that you are not even sure exists, while burning the only hope we have for remaining a free people, as you ignore the fact that the very ones voting for this insanity are those who are pushing for a Global New World Order.
The ONLY thing keeping the NWO at bay is the Constitution…and you willingly tear up the only hope of stopping it’s arrival.
You are COWARDS…each and every one of you…who would sacrifice liberty for security…and in the end you will have neither…which is what you deserve.
Report Post »hidden_lion
Posted on January 29, 2012 at 11:01amtroll trainer-
Report Post »“He know things we do not?”
He knows the he voted for the power to snatch and grab American citizens without trial for how ever long they desire. Did you see the story about the guy in Texas they arrested for dui and stuck him in solitary for 2 years? That could be you thanks to West and the all but 3 that voted for this. It is evil, it is un-American and I am ashamed Mr. West for voted for this trash bill. The machine of tyranny needs to be stopped before it is too late. I don’t care is every Muslim in the world is secretly plotting to kill all unbelievers, I won’t give up my rights for anything. I will defend myself from the Jihad Joes. The government is trying to protect us while crushing our skulls under their boot.
Kiba
Posted on January 29, 2012 at 5:32pmOh for Gods sakes the guy couldnt have that bad of a voting record because he hasnt been there long enough! And if voting for the Patriot act is what everyone is whining about so what? If your not conversing with terrorist what does it matter? Some of you people are out of your goards, and I have news for you there is not going to be a Buford Pusser type of person elected to be President of this country if you or I like it or not, aint gonna happen so you may as well get over it. For Gods sakes Rick Santorum scares the hell out of more than 50% of the voters in this country. Im not saying he scares me because he doesnt but people are gonna have to realize that stuff doesnt fly anymore. This country is choked full of liberals and moderates (who are really mostly libs and progressives but dont want to admitt it) so people may as well get over it or start another civil type war and clean em out. The wusses this country is full of now a days are not gonna vote a General Patton in office got it? I wish they would but Im not some fool that lives in a fantasy world.
Report Post »RepubliCorp
Posted on January 30, 2012 at 2:31amRon Pork Paul
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lgccac
Posted on January 29, 2012 at 7:50amI like this guy more and more. It’s so nice to hear a real patriotic American speak.
Report Post »qpwillie
Posted on January 29, 2012 at 7:50amOkay Mitt, Newt, Rick and Ron, listen carefully. That’s is how you do it. The only stipulation is, you have to believe it, say it and mean it like Allen West does.
Report Post »justangry
Posted on January 29, 2012 at 7:49amPfft, whatever! If you think Obama’s so bad, Mr. West why did you vote to give him the authority to ignore the 5th? Actions speak louder than words, sir. A lot of Blaze followers will eat that crap up though.
Report Post »RockinChuck
Posted on January 29, 2012 at 7:55am@justangry: Get the Hell out TROLL, yeah I said Hell
Report Post »Smokey_Bojangles
Posted on January 29, 2012 at 8:03amI’m a West fan and have to agree with ANGRY.Why give a dictator like Obama MORE power if you disagree with him so much? The Democrats have labeled The Tea Party as Terrorist and the OWS protestors as American as Apple Pie.Who do you think will be arrested and detained without due process by Eric Holder’s thugs?
Report Post »justangry
Posted on January 29, 2012 at 11:08am@Rockinchuck, I’m not going anywhere until the Blaze kicks me off or the president sends me to Gitmo. It‘s up to you to decide if I’m a troll or not, I don’t really care. I love America and want to see that my baby girl lives in a free country and is not enslaved by the debt we’re passing down to her. I don’t want her to get used to unionized TSA thugs fondling her. Now, I have to ask. Why are you so enamored by West’s service and so dismissive of mine?
Report Post »girlnurse
Posted on January 30, 2012 at 2:27pmI use to love this guy-Until I realized his tactic is like Newt and many others….they TALK the TALK really well but when it comes to voting they usually vote right along with liberal communists. Newt, and Cristie are the same way!!! West actually said “we have bigger fish to fry” when he voted against turning over ObamaCare! Unfortunately NEOCONS eat this stuff up….but they will learn…give it time…
Report Post »flipper1073
Posted on January 29, 2012 at 7:49amWhomever is at the top of the Republican Ticket
Report Post »Allen West needs to be the Vice President.
nanzofsc
Posted on January 29, 2012 at 9:03amNewt/West – can you imagine them taking it to O & B during the debates!! Can you say PAY PER VIEW!
Report Post »majasdad
Posted on January 29, 2012 at 12:46pmI totally agree with you, cause that would be the perfect way of guaranteeing a Republican doesn’t win the election. The horrifying thought of West as vice president would result in a good portion of the Republicans voting Democrat.
Report Post »Danthebugman
Posted on January 29, 2012 at 7:47amI have a new VP hopeful! Guts and Glory! No mincing words here! That‘s what I’m talking about!
Report Post »AmericanLass
Posted on January 29, 2012 at 5:16pmI love the fact that Rep. West never learned to speak anything but straight out truth. Not polispeak lies.
Report Post »RightPolitically
Posted on January 29, 2012 at 7:46amWest is the most courageous conservative out there. Like most military heroes, Allen West fears nothing and no one. He is correct about Obama, Reid and Pelosi, they hope to turn America into a failed socialist/communist state in the misguided belief that fairness doesn’t mean freedom to achieve and government staying out of the way of a free people but rather, fairness means equality or outcome regardless of the effort put forward by the individual. This is a provably FALSE PREMISE. But, of course, the likes of Obama, Reid and Pelosi do not care a lick about whether or not their theory on fairness works or not, they care only about their own selfish interests in retaining power at the expense of those who pay the bill. What disgusting creatures they are. Allen West could have won the Presidency had he run. Maybe it’s not too late!
Report Post »blkbelt7
Posted on January 29, 2012 at 7:45amI am realllly starting to like this guy…too bad he isn’t running for Obamas job…
Report Post »Stuck_in_CA
Posted on January 29, 2012 at 7:51amWhat a patriot — what a man. I watched a conference on Black Conservatism on C-Span yesterday. It was FANTASTIC! Col. West put it all together.
Report Post »He spoke just before Newt. C-Span is doing a wonderful job in presenting the candidates, etc.
samisus
Posted on January 29, 2012 at 7:44amLTC West…has spoken
Report Post »let us prey
Posted on January 29, 2012 at 7:43amGood message.
Report Post »BrerRabbit
Posted on January 29, 2012 at 7:36amLove it!
Report Post »NHwinter
Posted on January 29, 2012 at 7:36amBravo Col. West!!! Finally someone says it like it really is.
Report Post »GREENDOG
Posted on January 29, 2012 at 7:35amAllen is a leader!
Report Post »justangry
Posted on January 29, 2012 at 12:01pmAye, just like the other lemming leaders in congress. They’re leading us to tyranny.
Report Post »majasdad
Posted on January 29, 2012 at 2:23pmYeah right, but of what? A few thousand extreme right-wing, knuckle dragging nut jobs….or The Blaze fans and tea-baggers. The only place he’ll eventually lead anyone is into an abyss.
Report Post »DividedWeFail
Posted on January 29, 2012 at 7:56pmWest (and Bachman) two so-called Tea Party members voted to extend the Patriot Act and then expanded it.
THAT is as UNCONSTITUTIONAL as ObamaCare.
The fed gov’t can track your phone, cars, house and computer WITHOUT A WARRANT (Against 4 amendment) & if you catch them YOU CANNOT tell you wife or consult a lawyer or you go to jail which is against Free Speech and the right to a lawyer.
Worse, they both recently VOTED TO GIVE Obama NEW POWERS – To decide who the enemy is with along with a “Secret committee”
That is NOT CONSTITUTIONAL.
Then the president aka DICTATOR gets to send “HIS ARMY” to arrest an American on American soil and ship them to Guantanamo with no lawyer or when they will get out. The WHOLE USA Is a war zone now so Homeland Defense “SWATS OUT” local police departments to act like the military when not using the military itself to go after Americans.
If congress would adhere to the constitution and DECLARE WAR, on Al-Queda then we could LEGALLY kill them and take them prisoner with rights under the Geneva Convention even when detained in the USA. By Congress declaring WAR, they do NOT get American rights nor do we have to hide from our Constitution by holding people in Communist CUBA in Guantanamo.
And do you know it was CONGRESS who GAVE OBAMA THE POWER TO APPROVE OR DISAPPROVE THAT PIPELINE? Since when does the Constitution give a president the power over PRIVATE BUSINESS AND STATE BUSINESS AFFAIRS?
Report Post »RepubliCorp
Posted on January 30, 2012 at 2:41amMAJASDAD you better get ready for your code pink meeting
Report Post »RepubliCorp
Posted on January 30, 2012 at 2:50amDIVIDEDWEFAIL Paul goes to a 911 truther meeting
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Paul supports (Code Pink) need to medicate, put on your drool bib and go back to marching in the paper slipper brigade