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American Indian Tribe Given OK to Kill Two Bald Eagles for Religious Purposes

American Indian Northern Arapaho Tribe Given OK to Kill Two Bald Eagles for Religious Purposes

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The U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service has given the OK for an American Indian tribe to kill two bald eagles for religious purposes.

The decision comes after the Northern Arapaho Tribe in Wyoming filed a federal lawsuit alleging that the agency‘s refusal to allow them to do so was a violation of tribal members’ religious freedom, the Associated Press reported.

While no longer on the federal list of endangered or threatened species, federal law prohibits the killing of bald eagles under the Bald and Golden Eagle Protection Act. American Indians are able to apply for eagle feathers or carcases to use in their ceremonies from a federal repository. They can apply for permits to kill bald eagles as well, though such permission is incredibly rare.

According to the Associated Press, it’s been almost three years since the Arapaho tribe applied for such a permit, and a lawyer for the tribe said they believed it necessary to go to court in order to get one. The U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service granted the permit Friday.

Under the terms of the permit, the Northern Arapaho will be allowed to kill up to two bald eagles off their reservation. A neighboring tribe, the Eastern Shoshone Tribe, opposed the killing of eagles on their shared reservation.

The Arapaho’s lawsuit, filed late last year, stems from a legal battle after tribal member Winslow Friday killed a bald eagle without a permit in 2005 to use in the tribe’s Sun Dance, the AP reported. A federal judge dismissed the charges, saying it would have been pointless for Friday to apply for a permit since they’re generally refused anyway. Federal prosecutors appealed the decision and had Friday’s criminal charge reinstated, to which he pleaded guilty and paid a fine.

“One of the goals of the current suit is to prevent any young men like Winslow Friday from being prosecuted in the future for practicing their traditional religious ceremonies,” Andy Baldwin, lawyer for the tribe, told the AP.

In late 2007, senior tribe members appeared at a court hearing in support of Friday. Nelson P. White Sr. — then a member of the Northern Arapaho Business Council — said the birds American Indians have been forced to get from repositories were rotten.

“That’s unacceptable,” White said at the time. “How would a non-Indian feel if they had to get their Bible from a repository?”

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  • PapaJohannesPatriot
    Posted on March 14, 2012 at 12:10pm

    Peyote and mescaline can be used legally by certain Native Americans, but if you aren’t in that group, you’re breaking the law when you use them.

     
    • db321
      Posted on March 14, 2012 at 12:34pm

      This will backfire on Obama – the American Indian loves America – They certainly certainly Love America more than Obama – his advisers are idiots – they don’t care about the American Indian – they only care about getting votes and getting rid of those Eagle Eyes that is keeping a close watch on Obama, Soros and any one else trying to take down America.

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    • lukerw
      Posted on March 14, 2012 at 12:35pm

      “Je te plumerai la tete…”

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    • USAMEDIC3008
      Posted on March 14, 2012 at 12:52pm

      And What about all the eagles killed by the power co.
      Native American Electric

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    • SgtB
      Posted on March 14, 2012 at 12:55pm

      I’m sick of Indians. They want to live off the US taxpayer on their “sovereign” land and then also have a vote in how we run our government. One of two things needs to happen.

      1) We give all people the RIGHT to opt out of our system of gov‘t and live on land held in an actual allodial title for which they will not owe any taxes and gov’t will not have the privilege of imminent domain.

      2) We abolish the idea that Indian tribes are sovereign nations and and make them all American citizens. No one is saying that they cannot keep their heritage or culture alive, but they will not have privileges and rights above those of the rest of the citizens.

      I can see why they’d want to be sovereign and not answer to the fed, really I can; but they are a continual drain on the American taxpayer.

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    • TheCoffinMaker
      Posted on March 14, 2012 at 1:00pm

      Don’t sweat it. The national bird is soon to be the Caracara.

      A falcon, Mexico’s national bird.

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    • db321
      Posted on March 14, 2012 at 1:17pm

      I just ran across this Young Lady sing “God Bless the USA’ on You Tube – If you need a left up – this video might help.

      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AQ3TPBX6vxU&feature=related

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    • cuinsong
      Posted on March 14, 2012 at 1:21pm

      As a human being I have always been disgusted with cultures that for what ever justification have this need to destroy some poor un-suspecting animal & in extreme cases offer up people as a sacrifice for some stupid gods placation!
      I personally do not believe that any humane god that may exist with any sense of right & wrong would not require you to destroy any of his creatures for his pleasure.
      If you believe life is special then you have to believe that any individual life is special.
      People that think it is necessary to go thru some ritual that requires the sacrifice of any life form are wrong. Rituals that require life’s blood to be spilt are barbaric stupidity that should be looked upon as heathenish or devil worship.
      I’m sorry but Indians do not get a pass on this as far as I am concerned they should be allowed to destroy 2 beautiful eagles just because of its traditional Sun Dance ritual!
      No I don’t care what kind of justification you put on it!
      I say, if your god requires a display of heathenism like this then you need to get a better god period!
      Fortunately I do not have a song for blood sacrifices but In the simplest terms this song sums up my feelings about my life called
      “One life One Love One God” http://www.reverbnation.com/play_now/song_12095524

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    • garylee123
      Posted on March 14, 2012 at 1:35pm

      @USAmedic…. Eagles killed by powerlines (at my co.) are shipped to Colorado for use by Indian groups. It was funny the first time I asked a local mailing co if they could wrap and send a frozen bald eagle.

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    • cosette
      Posted on March 14, 2012 at 1:53pm

      This should surprise no American who hasn’t been comatose since the Marxist pig took office. He’s waged a war on every other tradition that Americans hold dear, why should this magnificent bird, which is the symbol of greatness for our nation be an exception. He holds the constitution in contempt,along with our economic system, our Juedo-Christian values and faith, and everything that made this the good and decent nation that it was until he came along. He is a destroyer, a divider, a usurper, a deceiver and the ruination of America. Every day I pray for his departure, how it happens is of no importance. Be it shackled and cuffed doing the perp walk, waving goodbye to his adoring fellow Marxists from Air Force One or horizontally in a box matters not. Just so he GOES!

       
    • lukerw
      Posted on March 14, 2012 at 2:17pm

      @THECOFFINMAKER
      Damn… I thought that was.. CUCARACHA… (Cockroach)!

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    • PPMStudios
      Posted on March 14, 2012 at 2:30pm

      @ SGBT

      Damn right! It has to be one way or the other. The Native Americans didn’t deserve what happened to their ancestors but, I didn’t do it and neither did my parents.

      We need to move into the current century…

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    • mecbb55
      Posted on March 14, 2012 at 2:34pm

      “We abolish the idea that Indian tribes are sovereign nations and and make them all American citizens. No one is saying that they cannot keep their heritage or culture alive, but they will not have privileges and rights above those of the rest of the citizens.”

      this already happened nearly 100 years ago. the 1924 “indian citizenship act”. which is little more than a genocidal aspect of the ‘termination’ era of federal indian policy.

      also, if you are so concerned with the ‘privileges and rights’ of native peoples then take it up with the founding fathers. they are the ones who signed treaties with these native nations.

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    • Stoic one
      Posted on March 14, 2012 at 2:51pm

      PPMSTUDIOS & SGTB

      I understand the frustration you both share. My wife is a full blooded American Indian. The history is as current as your parents early childhood (post WW2) . Many of the court battles are continuing now from that time period. At the same time the fed has been shoving “aid” down the throats of many Indian Nations. Once again the fed is all about power. These cases draw out for another couple of decades and the descendants will no linger care and the cases will fade away. The Indians stay on top of them? God help the fed!

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    • SamIamTwo
      Posted on March 14, 2012 at 3:20pm

      WA state started this when they allowed the Maka Indians to kill gray whales in 1999…of course they had to use ancient ways, not modern ways to kill the whale.

      http://www.makah.com/whalingtradition.html

      Note the eagle in the web sit.

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    • DYNA
      Posted on March 14, 2012 at 4:38pm

      The wildlife service interferes with border patrols securing the border.

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    • DYNA
      Posted on March 14, 2012 at 4:41pm

      Why don’t the liberals apply the fabricated “separation of church and state” in this situation and ignore the indians?

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    • cdwhite75
      Posted on March 14, 2012 at 6:59pm

      I believe that this is simply Native Americans being used as pawns. Obama is telling religious institutions especially catholics that he solely has the power to grant religious freedom, therefore he has the power to deny those same freedoms.

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    • IBHowe
      Posted on March 14, 2012 at 8:11pm

      @ SGTB – I agree.
      I live in South Dakota, and you know the very second you drive into a reservation, everything around to looks like a landfill. Broken down trailer homes, 15 cars parked around the house & parked on top of the 2 foot high lawn. They have no pride of ownership because it was all given to them,
      They didn’t earn it, so they don’t respect & appreciate it.

      However I would give them your second choice, and if they don’t want to live in the US anymore, then we will pay for their relocation….and that will be the last free thing they would ever get form me.

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    • PASSIONFORCHRIST
      Posted on March 14, 2012 at 8:23pm

      They were HERE BEFORE US! THEY WOULD NEVER ABUSE AMERICA LIKE ALL US IMMIGRANTS HAVE SINCE WE’VE BEEN HERE! THEY SHOULDN’T NEED ANY PERMIT FOR ANYTHING! THOUGHT THEY WERE SOVEREIGN NATIONS! OBVIOUSLY NOT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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    • Freedom.Fighter
      Posted on March 14, 2012 at 11:32pm

      Indian tribes can commit cromes that would put other citizens in jail and not pay taxes on top of that?!

      And they don;t think killing bald eagles would be considered an insult to this nation?

      Sounds pathetic.

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    • Longinthetooth
      Posted on March 15, 2012 at 9:40am

      It is now and has been (regardless of the Endangered Species Act) Ilegal to kill ANY raptor (predatory bird; eagles qualify) and many migratory birds for MANY YEARS! With the NOTED EXCEPTION of Native Americans for the purposes of RESPECTING THEIR RELIGIOUS TRADITIONS AND BELIEFS and this has been the case since I was in high school waayyyyyy back in the 70′s……………

      Is their some hypocricy here then RANTING ABOUT RESPECT FOR RELIGIOUS FREEDOMS while calling this “false flag” distraction (sensationalism) a “Patriotic” Insult?

      I believe this falls in the catagory of “Removing the Plank from your own eyes before you critisize the Beam in your Brothers eye”…………………..

      “Woe to thee Hypocrites”

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    • VerySeniorCitizen
      Posted on March 15, 2012 at 10:32am

      DB321

      I understand that you know nothing about the history of this country – BUT – you mention ‘anyone who wants to take down America’. EXACTLY who might that be?

      Didn‘t the white man ALREADY take down ’America’ when they landed on this side of the Atlantic, slaughtered the ‘red man’ and took his lands, killed his bison, hearded the survivors onto lands which could grow nothing in places that these people knew nothing about, and delivered unto the red man diseases which killed hundreds of thousands.? And, of course, the ‘red’ man has been minimalized ever since. So WHO took down America – and rebuilt it in his own design??

      Oh, and if the Catholic church can claim ‘religious’ ideals when referring to contraception for women, then WHY should the American Indian NOT have the rights to their own religious rights??? After all, the Indians have always believed that NO ONE can own property or land. They can ONLY be caretakers of that land and it’s bounty! Can the white man make that same claim??

       
    • VerySeniorCitizen
      Posted on March 15, 2012 at 11:23am

      @SGBT

      Obviously the American Indian has been a ‘drain’ on the country for centuries – even before the white man STOLE their lands, slaughtered their people, herded them into pens like cattle then marched them for hundreds of miles (where thousands died enroute) so that the White Man could lay claim to their lush fishing and agricultural lands.
      http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/amex/weshallremain/the_films/episode_3_trailer
      I wonder how tired the original peoples of this land are of being second class citizens?

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    • FoxholeAtheist
      Posted on March 19, 2012 at 10:54am

      If this act of cruelty puzzles and frustrates you because you don’t hold these same beliefs, then congratulations, welcome to my world. I get to feel this way every day.

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  • Itsjusttim
    Posted on March 14, 2012 at 12:09pm

    The problem is that there is just too many people in the world. The Lord is going to solve that for us.

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    • Itsjusttim
      Posted on March 14, 2012 at 12:13pm

      And the elites are going to try to control the way it happens. But the funny thing is that the elites are thinking their own grandchildren will be created in their own kind, but they will not be. Their grand-children and great grand children will be created in “His” kind, and they will give away, and abandon all the wealth that once belonged to the elites. Chuckle chuckle!

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    • SgtB
      Posted on March 14, 2012 at 1:01pm

      Sure. You tell me how many of the Rothschild’s have given away their inheritance. How many of the royal families around the globe have given away their inheritances? I can tell that you haven’t read any Ayn Rand novels or books, have you. People will do what brings them the most gratification. If that is buying sailboats and mansions, then that is what they will do. If it is feeding a town of hungry African villagers for a month, they will do that too. So just ask yourself how many people will find gratification in leaving their children with less money than they inherited?

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    • lukerw
      Posted on March 14, 2012 at 2:00pm

      Tis True… the King’s of Wealth… sired many, and inturn many… where we are all related to Kings… even the lowest of the low!

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    • BostonHarold
      Posted on March 14, 2012 at 2:13pm

      Uh oh…off your meds again I see.

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    • Freedom.Fighter
      Posted on March 14, 2012 at 11:58pm

      Remember, remember the 5th of November…

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  • Rational Man
    Posted on March 14, 2012 at 12:09pm

    Big deal…………….

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  • iampraying4u
    Posted on March 14, 2012 at 12:09pm

    stupid bassturds

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  • freedomdontcomefree
    Posted on March 14, 2012 at 12:07pm

    y cant native americans preform their ttaditions that were in place long before eutopeans came to this country. i know the bald eagle is one of our national symbols but thomas jefferson thaught that it should be the turkey. the federal govt has long since stood in the way of native tribes practicing their religous freedoms. i may not beleive in their practices however they should still have all rights garuanteed to everyone by the constitution

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  • Big Media Bias
    Posted on March 14, 2012 at 12:07pm

    Hey Northern Arapaho Tribe, visit any Democrat wind farm. Thousands of dead Bald Eagles laying around from propeller hits. You could feather millions of native skulls.

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    • CatB
      Posted on March 14, 2012 at 2:43pm

      Yes .. I don’t see why they need to kill more .. just go get the ones under the windturbines .. should be a few feathers left.

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  • paperpushermj
    Posted on March 14, 2012 at 12:05pm

    American indian tribe given ok to kill two bald eagles for religious purposes
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    Let me guess : THERE’S NO WIND FARM IN THEIR AREA

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    • paleoman
      Posted on March 14, 2012 at 12:34pm

      Thats what I was thinking. I read just yesterday that 70 Bald Eagles were kill by wind turbines. They could use 2 that are all ready dead.

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    • kaydeebeau
      Posted on March 14, 2012 at 2:13pm

      Golden Eagles

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    • paperpushermj
      Posted on March 14, 2012 at 6:14pm

      @cesium
      If your point was that the Loss of many millions of Russian was all from the point of a Bureaucratic Decision and was not deliberate policy I insist you read “The Gulag Archipelago” and “One Day In The Life Of Ivan Denisovich” both by Solzhennitsyn
      Stalin used Government induced Famine and the Gulag to destroy those that he thought would not bow to the Communist new God …Himself

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  • americanfoodblister
    Posted on March 14, 2012 at 12:04pm

    People believe in Gods therefore they kill….does not matter which brand of God….through out man’s history all follow through blindly….All of them gist a pass because the invisible force tells them it’s ok…

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    • americanfoodblister
      Posted on March 14, 2012 at 12:17pm

      ie… Islamo nutjob: kill the infidel…Christian evangelical (puritan classic) :, burn the witch ,burn the witch…oh yeah crusades and the Big one , let’s say it together…INQUISITION…Indian Caste system…Mayan ceremonies…it goes on and on…Lord save us from your followers…

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    • paperpushermj
      Posted on March 14, 2012 at 12:42pm

      Can you think of any Church Sanctioned Killings here in the USA in say the last 60 years or do you have to go back to the Salem Witch Trials to make your point.
      .
      Oh FYI the Crusades where in response to Invasion from Islamic Armies pushing into Europe. Why do you think new trade routes where needed to get the Asia? Here is a hint The fall of Byzantium aka to you as Constantinople caused the setting to sea Three small ships to discover a new open way to the trade partners of India and China

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    • americanfoodblister
      Posted on March 14, 2012 at 12:54pm

      @paper….It was in ref. to history. Yes they did burn nice old lady’s that had knowledge how to heal people with herbs and such…any threat to control or other was considered heresy. Especially science…All religion is a poisoned idea…One does not need it to be spiritual or moral…

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    • JimL
      Posted on March 14, 2012 at 1:05pm

      “Christianity has not been tried and found wanting; it has been found difficult and not tried.” Gilbert K. Chesterton

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    • paperpushermj
      Posted on March 14, 2012 at 1:09pm

      You have a rather Jaundiced view of Religion. Just curious Why looking backward to Events in Europe instead of the Now to form your opinions on Western Religions?

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    • jm11076
      Posted on March 14, 2012 at 1:09pm

      60 million killed in the USSR in the name of ATHEISM in less then 100 years.

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    • paperpushermj
      Posted on March 14, 2012 at 1:24pm

      One other point Americanfood.
      Seeing how you want to blame Theology for most if not all of Mans horrors I would direct you to the last Century which is counted as the Century of the Greatest Slaughter of Humans, Caused not byTheology but Mans thought, an Ideology not God Centric, but based on Communism and Fascism

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    • Cesium
      Posted on March 14, 2012 at 2:16pm

      @JM11076 What a trumped up inaccuracy! People in Russia were not killed “..in the name of atheism” That was not Stalin’s motive. He refused to release large stores of grain which led to massive famine, he didn’t go around collecting millions of people up and massacring them. Christians have a beautiful history of murder in the name of god.

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    • kaydeebeau
      Posted on March 14, 2012 at 2:25pm

      The left in America perform millions of human sacrifices at the grand cathedral called Planned Parenthood

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  • kapnkd
    Posted on March 14, 2012 at 12:02pm

    CAREFUL!! …We conservatives are being baited with this latest maneuver by the Obozocommie regime!

    Watch the left turn this into a purely religious issue in their efforts to push taking away our religious 1st Amendment right.”How can the Catholics/Christians have their rights and not the American Indians?” will be the first thing out of the lefts mouth on this one. – GUARANTEED!!

    YES, I am OUTRAGED that an American Indian tribe would consider killing any animal for a religious ceremony, ritual or whatever!

    We ALL should be upset with ANY religion, cult or culture that promotes or condones the taking of any type of life for the purpose of a religious belief. In fact, I was under the impression we have laws regarding that very thing and IF so, they should be applied in this case too!!

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    • deeberj
      Posted on March 14, 2012 at 12:27pm

      Are you a Christian? Your religion is founded upon sacrifice, with the Hebrew sacrifices and then the once-for-all sacrifice, not that of an animal but of Jesus. Don’t forget what the blood of Jesus has done. Him shedding blood was very important, as the old testament has a lot to say about sacrificial blood as does the new. It was necessary for the Hebrews to escape Egypt, it was used in animal sacrifices and read about when Solomon dedicated the temple. Blood was everywhere.

      Even though Jesus was the last sacrifice necessary, you have to admit that throughout history blood sacrifice has been an important part of many religions.

      I want freedom of religion here. As long as people aren‘t killed and nothing is tortured I don’t care if they shoot a bald eagle.

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    • 2theADDLED
      Posted on March 14, 2012 at 12:31pm

      Info http://www.accessgenealogy.com/native/handbook/facts/indians_eagles.htm

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    • 2theADDLED
      Posted on March 14, 2012 at 12:44pm

      Some status in the tribe can only be obtained by the hunter and some items can only be fashioned by a fresh kill where the bones and the like will still be pliable enough to form items.

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    • PaxInVeritate
      Posted on March 14, 2012 at 1:03pm

      I understand why most here post negatively. It is out of ignorance of native religious beliefs and practices. In working in the past with a Catholic Church formed for the Objibwe tribe for 5 years, I came to understand some of their historical (but mostly present) religious practices. It would’ve taken at least 12 years to really understand, but I wasn’t afforded that time. The Eagle is considered extremely sacred, and the feathers are used in purification rituals and much more. They do not take the killing of these Eagles lightly, and more than likely will spend a day in contemplation to be of pure heart and give thanks to the Great Spirit for the life of the Eagle. That being said, there was a holy man named Black Elk that became a catechist for the Catholic Church. He saw a great symmetry between the Lakota religious beliefs and the Catholic Church. Some of the People now opt to focus solely on Black Elk’s Native religious beliefs since so much has been lost do to a myriad of reasons, and some bigotry (understandably so) to the White religion. A good read (if anyone is interested and enjoys reading) about Black Elk is “Black Elk Speaks: being the life story of a holy man of the Oglala Sioux (as told to John G. Neihardt)”Bison Books, 2004 (originally published in 1932″. 

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    • PaxInVeritate
      Posted on March 14, 2012 at 1:08pm

      Excuse me. It’s Ojibwe.

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    • OJMDC
      Posted on March 14, 2012 at 3:57pm

      Obama is just trying to score points with the Native Americans and bypass the system that is in place for Natives to legally obtain eagle parts. Not every Native is eligible to obtain or possess eagle parts. As a Native American, I don’t agree with the killing of an eagle. I doubt Natives were capable of killing an eagle prior to European settlement due to the weaponry at the time. Obama is using this for another opportunity to divide America by race.

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    • dad1011
      Posted on March 15, 2012 at 6:57am

      This is not about birds, its about the Chosen One “granting” religious freedom. One faith can kill a bird, one faith has to kill babies. The Dear Leader decides.

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  • COFemale
    Posted on March 14, 2012 at 12:01pm

    Why does their ceremony have to use Eagle feathers? Isn’t there someone who makes faux feathers they can use? I mean the fur people insist on fake fur, why not fake feathers.

    Considering the Bald Eagle is our National bird, why do the Arapahoe feel the need to kill our National Bird unless they do not feel they are American also.

    Where is PETA when you need them? Thank goodness for the Eastern Shoshone tribe for wanting to stop this. I stand with the Shoshone.

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    • paperpushermj
      Posted on March 14, 2012 at 12:15pm

      Here is a perfect win win ( except for the birds) solution.
      .
      The Government funds and installs a wind farm on tribal land.
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      As we have seen from other stories on birds of pray falling victim to the moving blades of the Wind Generators.
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      So the Tribe Gathers the Royalties and the jobs associated with the Wind Farm and Can just pick up the now dead Eagles for the Ground.
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      IT’S BRILLIANT

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    • TheJeffersonian
      Posted on March 14, 2012 at 12:24pm

      They aren’t American, they’re Arapaho. And they use real feathers rather than fake ones for the same reason you use a real Bible rather than a blank book with a Bible cover. This permit allows for the killing of two birds, from a species that isn’t even endangered anymore. To think that it’ll significantly affect the bald eagle population is ludicrous.

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    • loveliberty83
      Posted on March 14, 2012 at 12:38pm

      why don”t you notify Peta about the wind mills killing these birds . The eagle is sacred to the Indians & they show it much more respect then those idiots in WA who atr killing hundreds evday. leave the Indians alone they have suffered worse then the blacks & they do not teach hate of the white people. Many serve in our arm services

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  • Vickie Dhaene
    Posted on March 14, 2012 at 12:00pm

    Since when does the American Government allow killings for religious sacrifice?
    I do believe the ANTI-CHRIST IS HERE !!! SHOUT UP TO THE LORD strike them and sweep them away.

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    • kaydeebeau
      Posted on March 14, 2012 at 3:34pm

      2 words to answer your question – Planned Parenthood

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  • This_Individual
    Posted on March 14, 2012 at 11:59am

    Something tells me that killing a bald eagle is not a Northern Arapaho religious tradition.

     
  • Jezcruzen
    Posted on March 14, 2012 at 11:59am

    I just listened to Beck’s radio show where he went off on this decision. No, Glenn, the Bald Eagle is no longer on the Endangered Species List. It still is listed as “threatened”, however. In fact, the Bald Eagle population in the lower 48 has been a success story.

    No, Glenn… the decision does not allow “native Americans” to kill eagles at will. It only allows the killing for two Bald Eagles by one tribe in Montana. I am more concerned about the estimated 70 Golden Eagles killed annually by one wind generator in some pass in California!

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    • COFemale
      Posted on March 14, 2012 at 12:11pm

      Whether it is endangered or not endangered is not the issue. The Bald Eagle is America’s National Bird; you just can’t go kill it, hence the permit. I question the need for the Arapahoe in using “real” Eagle feathers. Why not fake feathers?

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    • deeberj
      Posted on March 14, 2012 at 12:20pm

      Cofemale – look. We have freedom of religion in America, even if you don’t like that religion or it makes no logical sense to you. Saying the trive should use fake feathers may be just as bad as saying the Catholic church should use fake wine. Both religions want the real thing.

      I don’t understand how Glenn Beck constitutional freedom of religion fans are getting so upset over this. It’s two eagles. So what if it’s our national bird? It’s not endangered. It’s just a symbol, it has no real value in and of itself. That would be idol worship.

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    • Balthazor
      Posted on March 14, 2012 at 3:54pm

      @deeberj

      The notion that it’s just a symbol and thus has no real value is frankly toxic. After all, what is the Constitution but words on paper? What is the American flag but a piece of colored cloth? What is the crucifix but a piece of wood? For that matter, what is the swastika but a collection of lines?

      I could give a rip about a couple birds, but it’s what these birds symbolize that give them value and power. If we, as a people, decide that the bald eagle is just a bird, then we’re one step closer to saying that the Constitution is just words on paper and of no value to anyone. You just don’t want to go there.

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    • Msgt Ret
      Posted on March 15, 2012 at 8:20am

      Wyoming, Wyoming is what the article said!

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  • Dale
    Posted on March 14, 2012 at 11:58am

    Call me a cynic, but I have to wonder it granting this permit is not preparation for granting wind mill operators similar permits. Go green!

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  • perry1980
    Posted on March 14, 2012 at 11:56am

    This is Sick and Wrong

    This president has lost his mind

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  • Sleazy Hippo
    Posted on March 14, 2012 at 11:54am

    Another way for the Warrior Windmill Administration to wipe out true Americana. This is as stupid as asking to not have to pay for college sex because you are part of the Catholics, another so called religious freedom issue. Why don’t the Arapahoes just drink some wine and pretend it is Eagle blood?

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    • Itsjusttim
      Posted on March 14, 2012 at 12:03pm

      One person shouldn’t have to pay anything for another person. If you don‘t have something it’s because you don’t have the tools to get it, so I guess you better get your own tools.

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    • Itsjusttim
      Posted on March 14, 2012 at 12:05pm

      I’ll show you how to get the tools, but I’m not running your tools for you.

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  • Lumbar Spine
    Posted on March 14, 2012 at 11:52am

    Certainly none of the astute posters here would want the federal government to restrict anyone’s religious freedoms…right?

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    • Thighmaster
      Posted on March 14, 2012 at 12:17pm

      Happy to see your input. OWS on break?

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    • dmerwin
      Posted on March 14, 2012 at 3:09pm

      Surprise Lumbar, I see little issue with this. We have an abundance of Bald Eagles in Alaska, even in cities. I thought though, that the plains Indians valued the golden eagle. What I find STUPID is the fact that if you pick up a feather (naturally shed) off the ground you are breaking the law. I also see a bit of bias in who can harvest some wildlife which is off limits to all others.

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    • Balthazor
      Posted on March 14, 2012 at 4:04pm

      Wow, what a moronic comparison. Killing bald eagles is against the law. Refusing to pay for people’s contraception is not. Do you see the difference there? It‘s amazing that American liberalism has been as successful as it has given how laughably stupid so many of it’s adherents are.

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  • jjufon
    Posted on March 14, 2012 at 11:52am

    so this group can kill two national symbols for religion, but the Church can‘t decide if it want’s to pay for the morning after pill?

    do i have this right?

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    • Thighmaster
      Posted on March 14, 2012 at 12:27pm

      I think you’re on to something..

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    • Gonzo
      Posted on March 14, 2012 at 12:31pm

      Good point, this administration is all for religious freedom…unless it’s Christianity.

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  • Itsjusttim
    Posted on March 14, 2012 at 11:50am

    Well so what. I guess that why the Bible said to make no graven image of things in Heaven or in the earth. That’s why the eagle was placed in protection, and that’s why there is now a permit to kill two eagles. The people who view it as a sacred national symbol are just as guilty as the Native Americans, and the President is jerking your chains.

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    • Itsjusttim
      Posted on March 14, 2012 at 11:56am

      He’s only jerking your chains because you are placing them in his hands saying “Here, jerk my chains.” Americans are literally marionettes to have their strings pulled.

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  • RayOne
    Posted on March 14, 2012 at 11:44am

    The American Bald Eagle must look like marabou stork of the African savannah.
    Imagery is the issue in this case.

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  • cookcountypatriot
    Posted on March 14, 2012 at 11:40am

    i wonder who they will want to kill next??

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  • lembrandt
    Posted on March 14, 2012 at 11:38am

    This is sickening – that piece of garbage in the White House should become acquainted with an emotion he apparently has no experience with – SHAME.

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  • Teabunny
    Posted on March 14, 2012 at 11:34am

    ps the words to Oh Canada
    O Canada!
    Our home and native land!
    True patriot love in all thy sons command.
    With glowing hearts we see thee rise,
    The True North strong and free!
    From far and wide,
    O Canada, we stand on guard for thee.
    God keep our land glorious and free!
    O Canada, we stand on guard for thee.
    O Canada, we stand on guard for thee.

    (but ..Syrup…GOOOOOD!) ; P

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  • Thighmaster
    Posted on March 14, 2012 at 11:34am

    Why don’t they just use two of the Eagles killed by the windmills and let the live ones alone?

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    • jujubeebee
      Posted on March 14, 2012 at 11:44am

      best answer!

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    • Lumbar Spine
      Posted on March 14, 2012 at 11:55am

      Did you even bother to read the article or do you just read the headlines? The tribe is able to obtain eagle feathers and carcases from a federal depository to use in their religious ceremonies. However, according to the tribe, those carcases are “rotten”.

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    • COFemale
      Posted on March 14, 2012 at 12:06pm

      Lumbar Spine did you read the article, it says“ REPOSITORY” not depository. But hey why sweat the small stuff. Why would the repository have rotting carcasses of Eagles. Would not the feathers be plucked and preserved if removed from the dead Eagle? Something about their reason‘s don’t jive with me.

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    • Thighmaster
      Posted on March 14, 2012 at 12:08pm

      Lumbar
      I read the articles, watch the videos and I saw it on the news on tv. While I may not be as informed as you my question remains the same..

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  • lukerw
    Posted on March 14, 2012 at 11:30am

    Where’s the Indian… with a Tear on his Face?

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    • smithclar3nc3
      Posted on March 14, 2012 at 11:36am

      Why kill such a beautiful majetsic bird….IF YOU’RE NOT GOING TO EAT IT

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    • jharper
      Posted on March 14, 2012 at 12:09pm

      Little known fact..That indian with the tear running down his face was actually Italian.

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    • SamIamTwo
      Posted on March 14, 2012 at 3:33pm

      buwahahahaha an Italian…

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