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Americans Mistakingly Attribute Bible Verse to…Captain America?

Bible Verse Mistakingly Attributed to Captain America

Captain America had a huge summer. As of August 29, the comic book character’s big-screen showing grossed a global total of $326,008,620. In fact, the hero is so popular that, in a recent poll, some Americans mistakingly attributed a Bible verse to him.

According to a study commissioned by the American Bible Society, 63 percent of respondents claimed that the following quote came from Captain America, Martin Luther King, Jr. or former President George W. Bush: “We often suffer, but we are never crushed. Even when we don’t know what to do, we never give up.”

While this certainly seems like something one of the nation’s bravest comic book heros would say, the quote isn’t his (nor is it MLK or Bush’s). It’s actually from 2 Corinthians 4:8 in the Bible. Apparently, Americans need to brush up on their biblical trivia. Deseret News does make an interesting point, though, regarding wording:

…if the survey had used the King James Version of the quote (”We are troubled on every side, yet not distressed; we are perplexed, but not in despair”) instead of the Contemporary English Version, people may have recognized it better as a Bible verse.

The ABS commissioned the study to coincide with the 10th anniversary of the September 11 attacks, while also highlighting the release of The Freedom Bible, a new version of the Holy Bible that focuses on spiritual openness. In addition to the aforementioned Captain America oddity, ABS also found the following (as per the press release):

  • Despite significant security measures taken since Sept. 11, only 9 percent of Americans feel safer today than they did prior to Sept. 11. Thirty-six percent felt safer prior to the attacks of Sept. 11 than they do today.
  • Only 4 percent of Americans rely most on professional counseling to help deal with trauma. Four times as many (16 percent) rely most on the Bible.
  • Despite living in a predominantly Christian nation, 82 percent of Americans who have dealt with trauma rely most on sources other than the Bible to cope, including 6 percent of whom say they do not rely on anything.

These findings are certainly relevant, considering the 10th anniversary of the attacks that forever changed America — and the world. Safety fears and the ability to deal with personal trauma are issues that have impacted U.S. citizens greatly since the attacks.

On a lighter note, considering the new Bible edition’s focus upon freedom, who better to mistakingly attribute a quote to than Captain America?

Comments (118)

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  • ConservativeChristianB1954
    Posted on August 31, 2011 at 6:41pm

    GASP!!!! A scripture verse from the BIBLE??? In a movie?????? This is terrible! They are trying to shove religion down our throats edit it out quick before someone hears it.

    Oh, by the way, here is one of my my favorite Bible verses: Psalm 109:8.”Let his days be few;
    and let another take his office.”

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    • Cesium
      Posted on August 31, 2011 at 7:23pm

      A bible verse used in a movie. And that would be a surprise to you why? Bible stories/lines are perfect for movies because they might as well be movies themselves! Epic stories claiming the supernatural exists. Now that we have CGI it can all be realized on the screen… You must not have seen Pulp Fiction.

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    • Dragonfly92667
      Posted on August 31, 2011 at 7:55pm

      LOL… I like that one! I’m partial to Daniel 4:33. It reminds me what God thinks of kings who attempt to set themselves above Him. May this verse constantly remind me to keep a humble heart before my Lord.

      “The same hour was the thing fulfilled upon Nebuchadnezzar: and he was driven from men, and did eat grass as oxen, and his body was wet with the dew of heaven, till his hairs were grown like eagles’ feathers, and his nails like birds’ claws.”

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    • jb.kibs
      Posted on August 31, 2011 at 8:50pm

      @ConservativeChristianB1954
      … that is the most relevant bible verse for today it’s sickening.

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    • Pastor Ray
      Posted on August 31, 2011 at 11:35pm

      Psalm 109:9-11 is even better! As Paul wrote in Romans 12:19 Vengeance is mine; I will repay, saith the Lord. Hey Obama payback is rough!

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    • thetreyman
      Posted on August 31, 2011 at 11:37pm

      @Cesium
      i did see pulp fiction and most of that so called bible quote was not in the bible. fyi

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    • thetreyman
      Posted on August 31, 2011 at 11:41pm

      @ConservativeChristianB1954
      i dont think they were saying that that quote was in the movie. i think it was just a survey. but i could have read it wrong also. its late and i am tired.

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    • Pastor Ray
      Posted on August 31, 2011 at 11:44pm

      Psalm 109:9-11 is better as Paul wrote in Romans 12:19 “Vengeance is mine; I will repay, saith the Lord.” Hey Obummer payback is really rough!

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    • 4truth2all
      Posted on September 1, 2011 at 10:50am

      Yo Pastor Ray:
      In all humility the bible also states that God puts those in authority over us.
      Which means in Gods providence……………………………
      God allowed, in fact sent the Babylonians to destroy lsrael. He then sent judgement against the Babylonians for what they did to Israel.
      Obama’s appointment to presidency over this nation is more about His people than anything. Please read… II Chronicles 7:13-14

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    • housetops
      Posted on September 1, 2011 at 12:08pm

      @CONSERVATIVECHRISTIANB1954, I think you’ll like this: http://getthesticker.ecrater.com/

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    • beckwasfox
      Posted on September 1, 2011 at 5:32pm

      @thetreyman-Cesium often gets confused. You should see it’s postings regarding the history of WWII. It also claims to be a jew so you would think it would be able to recognize faux scripture from a movie like “Pulp Fiction”.

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    • Advocatus
      Posted on September 2, 2011 at 8:51am

      Yes, “Psalm 109:8.”Let his days be few; and let another take his office.” So is this one from the Acts of the Apostles, where Peter is addressing them, and he too quotes from the Psalms, “For it is written in the book of Psalms, Let his habitation be desolate, and let no man dwell therein: and his bishoprick let another take.”

      I always wonder, when “Conservative Christians” quote that, just who exactly is their Bishop, and from where did he get his authority? It is clear that the translators of the vaunted KJV knew exactly what constitutes the office of Bishop, and therefore used the word “bishoprick” – in any event, it is perfectly clear from the context in Acts 1:20, that the office referred to is the Office of Apostle, as another is selected to replace Judas Iscariot. So it seems to me, a truly Conservative Christian, would know the answer the answer to the question – “Who is your Bishop?”

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  • SamIamTwo
    Posted on August 31, 2011 at 5:02pm

    I recognized it and have more than just the JKV in the library. ;)

    I like the MacArthur Study Bible, Halley’s Bible Handbook and Dr. J. Vernon McGee’s commentary for starters…but test everything in light of scripture and hold fast to that which is good and true.
    .
    Acts 17:11 These were more noble than those in Thessalonica, in that they received the word with all readiness of mind, and searched the scriptures daily, whether those things were so.

    Many people don’t search the scriptures anymore…I listen to the preacher, write down what he says and check out the bible before taking it to heart. It is the final authority.

    The Bereans were more fair mined and they searched the scriptures. I love that and I love the fact that the Spirit of God is the one that does all of the work in spite of ourselves. Yeah, we sometimes get caught up in trying to push people into heaven but if they don’t search the scriptures then your words are like pearls before swine. JIMHO

    Don’t believe me, well then read the Word of God for yourselves and study it… Let Him begin a good work in you…He is certain to finish it brother.

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    • ireport uderide
      Posted on August 31, 2011 at 5:35pm

      When dealing with the godless heathen’s that sucker punched us on 9/11, America should not only rely on the Bible for comfort and strength, but also these words from a song sung by the females of Katunga that were recovered from the records of Captain Hugh Clapperton.

      “…See them fleeing like the doe from our fighting men! Behold them falling down and kissing the dust from the feet of our warriors! Haste, haste, Yaribeans! pursue and overtake your enemies; slay them without mercy; stop their voices, that they sing no more at the eventide by the light of the moon; they are swift of foot, but they shall not escape you; they are already weary; their journey of life is almost at an end; they have fallen to the earth, and will dance no more”.

      Weep, ye widows of Houssa, and let the lamentations of your children be heard in the land, for they are fatherless, and your husbands have been pierced by the lance of Yariba…!

      ps; love jvm.

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    • becker88
      Posted on August 31, 2011 at 5:55pm

      That can’t be.

      http://politicalbowl.com – Political Videos

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    • Eblaze44
      Posted on August 31, 2011 at 6:43pm

      So we have all these “Christians” in America – must be the last generation of them. Our new hedonistic god – the movies and Captain America.

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    • BigdaddyK
      Posted on August 31, 2011 at 9:49pm

      You’re absolutely correct in your statement. ALWAYS research the scriptures for yourself and DO NOT blindly accept what Grandma, your parents, your pastor, or especially what “The Right Reverend Billy Blowhard” says on TV.

      If you’re looking to purchase a new Bible, here’s a link to a publisher who provides super high quality Bibles at a very affordable price. Check out Local Church Bible Publishers at:
      http://www.localchurchbiblepublishers.com/bookstore/bibles/

      For an unbiased review of thier Bibles go to:
      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9cnZXmGvbr0

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    • Advocatus
      Posted on September 3, 2011 at 10:10am

      Sam, how do you know the Bible is the final authority? Where does it make that claim for itself? Where does it tell you what are the Scriptures that are divinely inspired? Where does Paul tell us that the Gospel of Matthew is Scripture, but not the Gospel of Thomas? In fact, doesn’t Paul write and say that it is THE CHURCH which is the pillar and foundation of the truth?

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  • dabbo
    Posted on August 31, 2011 at 4:57pm

    “And I will strike down upon thee with great vengeance and furious anger those who attempt to poison and destroy my brothers. And you will know my name is the Lord when I lay my vengeance upon thee. ”
    Jules Winnfield

    Normally when you hear this your a$$es would be dead as fried chicken……

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    • Alucard
      Posted on August 31, 2011 at 7:13pm

      I love that quote!

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    • thetreyman
      Posted on August 31, 2011 at 11:46pm

      at least you diddnt attribute that quote as actually being in the bible. i do like that quote to though, good movie.

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  • BigdaddyK
    Posted on August 31, 2011 at 4:49pm

    They didn’t recognize it because it came from one of the many modern versions that have mangled the word of God. Best advice? Stick with the KJV.

    http://chick.com/information/bibleversions/

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    • rangerp
      Posted on August 31, 2011 at 5:15pm

      you speak the truth

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    • This_Individual
      Posted on August 31, 2011 at 5:22pm

      Better yet, learn some Greek.

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    • donaldchar
      Posted on August 31, 2011 at 5:54pm

      I love my AV, but God speaks most effectively through current English, not Shakespearean. That’s one reason why Jesus and His apostles used their Septuagint translation of the Tanakh (the Jewish O.T.) rather than the old Hebrew, which was also suffering from some Scribal sloppy-copying. Did you know that at least 90% of N.T. quotations of the O.T. are letter-for-letter right out of the LXX and not the Hebrew? Take 20 verses at random and check it out. As a Berean, you’ll want to go back and read each O.T. verse being quoted in the N.T. When I discovered this, it blew me away, because I was raised (and I taught classes) extolling the T.R. but, being a Berean, I responded to the challenge and God opened my eyes. Wow. He is good and I stand corrected. Praise Him forever!

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    • Darren
      Posted on August 31, 2011 at 6:16pm

      I certainly didn’t recognize the verse in its modern-day English wording. The King James Version certainy puts a unique flavor in to the Lord’s word.

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    • Valkaneer
      Posted on August 31, 2011 at 6:28pm

      Did you know the 1611 which is thee original KJV had the apocrypha as part of it? 90% of KJV only people have no idea where the KJV even came from. Did you know that the majority of the KJV’s book of Revelation was mostly translated from Latin Vulgate? These are just a few of the truths which prove the KJV is not perfect. I get very tired of the ignorant who refuse to learn and seek the truth. The KJV is a very good decent translation, but it is not the only very good translation. Few weeks ago my dad heard a Pastor try to say the KJV corrected the Hebrew and Greek. What astounding heresy.

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    • Pilgrimsarbour
      Posted on August 31, 2011 at 6:51pm

      And which version of the KJV? The 1611, the 1760 or the 1769? Each differs from the other, as translations do and will. I ask KJV Only advocates, which of these is the actual “preserved Word of God?” Also, modern printings of the KJV use different spellings and don’t include the Apocrypha like the originals did.

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    • Valkaneer
      Posted on August 31, 2011 at 6:59pm

      @DONALDCHAR Well there could very well be some good reason for that. Not everyone understood or knew Hebrew in Jesus day. Gentiles especially did not know, but everyone understood and knew Greek, being Alexander the Great made it the law that every person was to know Greek. So in Jesus time everyone still knew Greek even though the Romans were now ruling, it was the one language that the entire world knew at the time. Which is no coincidence. BTW God speaks most effectively through any language which the reader can understand. The Holy Spirit is not limited by other languages.

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    • Dragonfly92667
      Posted on August 31, 2011 at 8:01pm

      @ RangerP…. well said. I add, “Let God be true, and all men liars.” Ahem… a little salutation from an Army brat: HUAH RANGER DANGER! =)

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    • colt1860
      Posted on September 1, 2011 at 1:03am

      “the King James translation has been described as ‘the monument of English prose’ as well as ‘the only great work of art ever created by a committee’. Both statements are true. Fifty four scholars worked seven years to produce the work from its extant texts in Aramaic, Hebrew, Greek, Latin, and English. Such an undertaking can be expected to produce great scholarship, but hardly writing as spare and sublime as the King James…The authors of several boring translations that have followed over the last fifty years mumble that the KJV is “difficult” filled with long words. Have a look at the difficult long words that begin the Old Testament, and end the Gospels: ‘In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth. And the earth was without form, and void; darkness was upon the face of the deep.’ and ‘Now, of the other things which Jesus did, if they should be written every one, I suppose the world itself could not contain the books that would be written.’ Shakespeare aside, there’s no comparable writing in the language, as has been observed by wiser men than I. Over the past several centuries it’s been the single book in most households, an enormous force in shaping the development of the English language. Carried around the world by missionaries, it provided the base by which English is about to become the lingua franca of the world in the next century. Exploring it during this shoot [Ten Commandments] was one of the most rewarding creative experien

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    • colt1860
      Posted on September 1, 2011 at 1:06am

      “The scholars who produced this masterpiece are mostly unknown and unremembered. But they forged an enduring link, literary and religious, between the English-speaking people of the world.” Churchill

      “One of the supreme achievements of the English Renaissance came at its close, in the King James Bible…It is rightly regarded as the most influential book in the history of English civilization…the King James Version combined homely, dignified phrases into a style of great richness and loveliness. It has been a model of writing for generations of English-speaking people.” Compton’s Encyclopedia

      “the rhetoric of the King James Version has the aspect not of a stumbling block but rather of a bulwark…” Amy Clampitt

      “From the middle of the seventeenth century, the King’s Bible has been the acknowledged Bible of the English-speaking nations throughout the world simply because it is the best. A revision which embodied the ripe fruits of nearly a century of labour, and appealed to the religious instinct of a great Christian people, gained by its own internal character a vital authority which could never have been secured by any edict of sovereign rulers.” Westcott, Hort

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    • colt1860
      Posted on September 1, 2011 at 1:08am

      “The highest eulogiums have been made on the translation of James the First, both by our own writers and by foreigners. And, indeed, if accuracy, fidelity, and the strictest attention to the letter of the text, be supposed to constitute the qualities of an excellent version, this of all versions, must, in general, be accounted the most excellent. Every sentence, every work, every syllable, every letter and point, seem to have been weighed with the nicest exactitude; and expressed, either in the text, or margin, with the greatest precision.” Alexander Geddes (d. 1802), a Roman Catholic priest, who in 1792 issued the first column of his own translation of the Bible, accordingly paid tribute to the Bible of his time.

      “The greatest English Bible is the Authorized, or King James, Version. Based on Tyndale’s translation and original texts, it was produced in 1611 by six groups of churchmen at the command of King James I. The King James Bible became the traditional Bible of English-speaking Protestants. Its dignified and beautiful style strongly influenced the development of literature in the English language. The influence can be seen in the works of John Bunyan, John Milton, Herman Melville, and many other writers.” Merit Students Encyclopedia – Vol. 3; Crowell-Collier Educational Corporation; 1967, 1972 ed. p.p. 137, 138 Rev. Holt H. Graham; Rev. Joseph M. Petulla; Mr. Cecil Roth

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    • colt1860
      Posted on September 1, 2011 at 1:08am

      “The translation was extraordinarily well done because to the translators what they were translating was not merely a curious collection of ancient books written by different authors in different stages of culture, but the word of God divinely revealed through His chosen and expressly inspired scribes. In this conviction they carried out their work with boundless reverence and care and achieved a beautifully artistic result…they made a translation so magnificent that to this day the common human Britisher or citizen of the United States of North America accepts and worships it as a single book by a single author, the book being the Book of Books and the author being God.” George Bernard Shaw, Author – The Men Behind the King James Version, by G. S. Paine; Baker Book House; Grand Rapids, Mich.; 1959, 1977ed., pp. 182-183

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    • colt1860
      Posted on September 1, 2011 at 1:09am

      “Indeed, it is an incontrovertible fact that all the complex and horrendous questions confronting us at home and worldwide have their answer in that single book [referring to the AV].” Ronald Reagan -The King James Bible, Newsweek, Dec. 27, 1982 p.46

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    • colt1860
      Posted on September 1, 2011 at 1:11am

      [continued, first post]

      Exploring it during this shoot [Ten Commandments] was one of the most rewarding creative experiences of my life.” Charlton Heston – In the Arena: An Autobiography, pp. 554-555

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    • colt1860
      Posted on September 1, 2011 at 1:17am

      REAGAN abd THE AUTHORIZED VERSION

      In one of his famous radio addresses, Ronald Reagan, the great orator, eloquently gives his thoughts on the Authorized Version or the King James Bible in comparison to the “Good News Bible” (also called the Good News for Modern Man and Today’s English Version). The following transcript is from Reagan’s radio address which aired September 6, 1977, as printed in the book Reagan In His Own Hand:

      What would you say if someone decided Shakespeare’s plays, Charles Dicken’s novels, or the music of Beethoven could be rewritten & improved? I’ll be rite back.

      Writing in the journal “The Alternative” Richard Hanser author of “The Law & the Prophets” and “Jesus: What Manner of Man Is This?” has called attention to something that is more than a little mind boggling. It is my understanding that the Bible (both the old & new testaments) has been the best selling book in the entire history of printing. [continued...]

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    • colt1860
      Posted on September 1, 2011 at 1:18am

      [...continued] Now another attempt has been made to improve it. I say another because there have been several fairly recent efforts to—quote “make the Bible more readable & understandable”—unquote. But as Mr. Hanser so eloquently says, “For more than 3 1/2 centuries its language and its images have penetrated more deeply into the general culture of the English speaking world, and been more dearly treasured, than anything else ever put on paper.” He then quotes the irreverent H. L. Mencken who spoke of it as purely a literary work and said it was, “probably the most beautiful piece of writing in any language.”

      They were, of course, speaking of the authorized version, the one that came into being when the England of King James was scoured for translators & scholars. It was a time when the English language had reached it’s peak of richness & beauty.

      Now we are to have “The Good News Bible” which will be in, “the natural English of everyday adult conversation.” I’m sure the scholars and clergymen supervised by the American Bible Society were sincerely imbued with the thought that they were taking religion to the people with their “Good News Bible” but I can’t help feeling we should instead be taking the people to religion and lifting them with the beauty of language that has outlived the centuries. [continued...]

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    • colt1860
      Posted on September 1, 2011 at 1:18am

      [...continued] Mr. Hanser has quoted from both the St. James Version & the “Good News Bible” some well known passages for us to compare. A few thousand years ago Job said “How forcible are right words!” [Job 6:25] The new translators have him saying “Honest words are convincing.” That’s only for openers. There is the passage, “For in much wisdom is much grief: and he that increaseth knowledge increaseth sorrow.” [Eccl. 1:18]. Is it really an improvement to say instead, “The wiser you are, the more worries you have; the more you know the more it hurts.”

      In the New Testament—Mathew, we read “The voice of the one crying in the wilderness. Prepare ye the way.” [Matt. 3:3] The Good News version translates that, “Someone is shouting in the desert. Get the road ready.” It sounds like a straw boss announcing lunch hour is over.

      The hauntingly beautiful 23rd Psalm is the same in both versions, for a few words “The Lord is my shepherd” but instead of continuing “I shall not want” we are supposed to say “I have everything I need.” [continued...]

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    • colt1860
      Posted on September 1, 2011 at 1:19am

      [...continued] The Christmas story has undergone some modernizing but one can hardly call it improved. The wondrous words “Fear not: for; behold, I bring you good tidings of great joy” has become, “Don’t be afraid! I am here with good news for you.”

      The sponsors of the “Good News” version boast that their bible is as readable as the daily paper—and so it is. But do readers of the daily news find themselves moved to wonder, “at the gracious words which proceeded out of his mouth”? Mr. Hanser suggests that sadly the “tinkering & general horsing around with the sacred texts will no doubt continue” as pious drudges try to get it right. “It will not dawn on them that it has already been gotten right.”

      This is Ronald Reagan. Thanks for listening. Aired September 6, 1977 (Reagan In His Own Hand, 2001, pp. 409,410,411)

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  • Qoheleth
    Posted on August 31, 2011 at 4:29pm

    Welcome to the real world. (as Morpheus said). You’ll also find that a lot of folks think that “God helps those who help themselves.” is in the Bible… somewhere. (It‘s from Aesop’s Fables.)
    It was in the early aughts (2000s) that the Barna Group reported that we (in the U.S.) were now living in a society where a majority of people had never set foot within a church, synagogue, or mosque except for weddings and funerals. The reality is that a majority of people are more likely to have seen Captain America than heard that quote in context. As a result, a majority of people would also think “hope” and “change” are part of a (botched) political slogan than a way of life for certain believers.

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    • Solzhenitsin
      Posted on September 1, 2011 at 4:56pm

      Actually it is from Poor Richard’s Almanac by Benjamin Franklin.

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  • Bill Rowland
    Posted on August 31, 2011 at 4:14pm

    Are you sure that the quote should not be a prayer for this resident – Psalm 109:8?

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    • SamIamTwo
      Posted on August 31, 2011 at 4:28pm

      That is the first psalm that I memorized back in the 90′s. I love it…Then I began memorizing Galatians.

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    • MontanaRob
      Posted on August 31, 2011 at 4:57pm

      I read this yesterday and it truly hit home with our current situation:
      Proverbs 30:11-14
      There is a generation that curses it’s father,
      And does not bless it’s mother.

      There is a generation that is pure in it’s own eyes,
      Yet is not washed from it’s filthiness.

      There is a generation-oh, how lofty are their eyes!
      And their eyelids are lifted up.

      There is a generation whose teeth are like swords,
      and whose fangs are like knives,
      To devour the poor from off the earth,
      and the needy from among men.

      Amen.

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    • SamIamTwo
      Posted on August 31, 2011 at 5:08pm

      MontanaRob

      Whoa! Sounds like our generation…

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  • Banana Republic Capitalist
    Posted on August 31, 2011 at 4:04pm

    We’re still in the Bible!

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  • kickagrandma
    Posted on August 31, 2011 at 3:46pm

    Speaking of heroes~~~ remember David?
    Obedience to the GOD ALMIGHTY and
    Knowledge of WHOSE he was
    Faith in THE ONE GOD
    Courage in the face of all odds
    Trust in his experiences

    And, he was a young boy all by himself (+GOD which is the difference for many of us) facing a huge giant.

    It is good to know what GOD’s WORD teaches us. It’s even better to obey those teachings.

    Speaking of heroes ~~~~ Anybody reading Brad Thor’s latest book? Sure sounds current. Rather like the BIBLE, actually.

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    • Anonymous T. Irrelevant
      Posted on August 31, 2011 at 4:31pm

      Hey Grandma
      I haven‘t read any of Brad Thor’s books, but I’ve been hearing good things, so it’s probably time to pick some up.

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    • MontanaRob
      Posted on August 31, 2011 at 4:50pm

      “Full Black” If only the real life James Standing character would ablige us so!

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    • ghost-of-elvis
      Posted on September 1, 2011 at 5:35pm

      I like the way James 1:22 puts it.

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  • oneillptgd
    Posted on August 31, 2011 at 3:40pm

    I’m sure that the point of the quote in captain america is so similar to a theme in scripture. However if you want to be a pharisee the position is open.

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  • CommonSenseis Missing
    Posted on August 31, 2011 at 3:39pm

    “Outside of a dog, a book in mans best friend. Inside of a dog, it’s too dark to read.”

    – Groucho Marx

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  • Longing for Change
    Posted on August 31, 2011 at 3:39pm

    One Nation, UNDER GOD…

    I think the nation as a whole needs to embrace their scriptures, and stand together, regardless of the differences in doctrine! Returning the “People” back to believers in GOD and the Bible, whichever version your church uses.

    “We The People” are promised God’s protection if we follow Him. We have not been following God and look at where our country is at. Bring God back into our lives and His promises and blessings will restore this country! I pray that God will bless and protect those willing to stand!

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    • This_Individual
      Posted on August 31, 2011 at 5:19pm

      If I ( a pagan) were to embrace your religious texts, wouldn’t I be abandoning my freedom to choose my own path and religion, which our constitution is in favor of? Yes, faith in our respective religions important. But, ultimately we are not a theocracy.

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    • Darren
      Posted on August 31, 2011 at 6:24pm

      individual;

      I did not read anything about coercion in Longing’s post. I‘m sure Longing’s completely content to live in and support a society where you are 100% free to worship according to the dictates of your heart.

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  • womule
    Posted on August 31, 2011 at 3:31pm

    “with great power comes great responsibility” – Bible

    wait thats spiderman… ugh

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  • I_Hate_Libs
    Posted on August 31, 2011 at 3:26pm

    I don’t know about a verse but the movie was pretty kewl.

    The horror of the Democrat mind.

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  • This_Individual
    Posted on August 31, 2011 at 3:05pm

    Maybe that‘d be a good way to get folks readin’ your Bible. Anyway, back to reading about that State Strooper in New Mexico doing his “thang”.

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  • pastormatt
    Posted on August 31, 2011 at 3:02pm

    “Apparently, Americans need to brush up on their biblical trivia.”

    Bible Trivia?? No, more Christians need to brush up on their Bible Study. What’s even more amazing that this, is the Christians that continually speak certain sayings they claim is from the Bible, but it really is not. An example I hear all the time is, “God helps those who help themselves”. REALLY?? is that really what you beleive? My Bible teaches me that God helps those who CAN’T help themselves!!

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    • Cerealface
      Posted on August 31, 2011 at 3:09pm

      Apparently they put words into my mouth because I’m American.

      I do not approve of high school teen drama which is going on here.

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    • hadassah333
      Posted on August 31, 2011 at 3:14pm

      Neither one of those things are in scripture, sounds like you need to do a lttle studying as well. Of course what does a Dr. in Biblical and Hebraic studies profficient in ancient greek, aramaic and Hebrew know silly me. By the way the 1st quote atrributed to capt. america is not accurate.

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    • Ballot_Box_Revolution
      Posted on August 31, 2011 at 3:25pm

      I don’t really like to get in biblical debate, there are a number of reasons for this…but anyways i do have something to say about your comment…and to really understand you have to get past the word in front of your eyes and go a little deeper…

      The Bible says, God helps those that have faith….now if you think about that, and the real meaning of faith; those that feel like they can’t help themselves obviously do not have faith….so those that help themselves, and do not wallow in sorrow…they move on with their lives even in through times…those are the ones that have faith….

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    • ApokTheGreat
      Posted on August 31, 2011 at 4:32pm

      Pastormatt is correct.
      Without Jesus:
      We cannot provide for our salvation
      We cannot earn our salvation
      we cannot give enough to get salvation
      we cannot love enough for our salvation
      we cannot help enough for our salvation
      we cannot change this world in any manner
      we are helpless and hopeless
      we are critters of sin and death
      we are messed up and messy
      we are evil in nature

      God saw our condition from the first day and sent Jesus (God Himself) to die for us to put right what we made wrong.
      With Jesus:
      We are clothed in God’s righteous
      Our sins are forgiven
      We are given salvation
      we are given power through His name to change the world
      we are given help and hope
      We died to sin through Jesus and are raised from death through Jesus’ resurrection
      We are cleaned up and straightened up
      we are righteous in nature through Jesus

      so yeah pastormatt is correct,

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    • SamIamTwo
      Posted on August 31, 2011 at 5:26pm

      Ballot_Box_Revolution

      And faith does not come without knowledge, agreement and trust. :)

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    • ApokTheGreat
      Posted on August 31, 2011 at 6:33pm

      Faith is a part of love. Love is Loyalty, Duty, Respect, Selfless Service, Honor, Integrity and Personal Courage.
      Loyalty = bearing true faith in God; commitment
      Duty = fulfilling your obligations; you made a commitment, stick to it
      Respect= acting as if you are standing before God (because you are) and treating others the way you want them to treat you
      Selfless Service = sacrifice, going the extra mile,
      Honor = remembering that you carry the name of God to all people and keeping a good reputation for that purpose
      Integrity = living in truth, Jesus is the Truth. uprightness, righteousness; trustworthiness
      Personal Courage = facing adversity because the above will offend just about everyone you meet.

      Faith is a lot more than just believing, It is loyalty to God. We have to realize that we need God to be able to accept God. So having faith is admitting you can’t do anything without God.

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  • David Foxfire
    Posted on August 31, 2011 at 3:00pm

    So what I got from it is, “When coping with Trauma, read a lot of Captain America comics?” Who wrote this, Stan Lee?

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  • TH30PH1LUS
    Posted on August 31, 2011 at 2:57pm

    Hosea 4: 6 (KJV) My people perish from a lack of knowledge.

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    • vennoye
      Posted on August 31, 2011 at 3:12pm

      How sad and how true!

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    • kickagrandma
      Posted on August 31, 2011 at 3:39pm

      @TH3OPH1LUS ~ Nice! And, true, when all we have to do is read, study, ask THE SOURCE.

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  • Rational Man
    Posted on August 31, 2011 at 2:53pm

    I didn’t recognize it in the Contemporary English Version. I read the NKJV or NAS and KJV for study.

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    • Smokey_Bojangles
      Posted on August 31, 2011 at 3:07pm

      We are troubled on every side, yet not distressed; we are perplexed, but not in despair.With as many different Bibles out there, even“Have you driven a Ford Lately” would sound different.

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  • stockpicker
    Posted on August 31, 2011 at 2:50pm

    I’ve noticed on this and other forums that so-called Christians have little or no clue as to what is in the Bible and what its teachings mean.

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    • Rational Man
      Posted on August 31, 2011 at 2:54pm

      And you do?

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    • momprayn
      Posted on August 31, 2011 at 2:57pm

      Yes, it’s been my experience and seen polls that unfortunately say that a very “large number” shall we say of “Christians” do not know many scriptures, etc. Known that for a long time. Then you ask why the churches have gone into apostasy and so many have left & those that call themselves “Christians” don’t “walk the talk”. For one – they don’t know the “talk” (verses) to begin with. It’s easier to just sit and listen to someone who claims to be a minister & not do any research/reading on your own…..voila — we have a million different denominations & not really teaching or living what the New Testament says.. Jesus weeps.

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    • Gonzo
      Posted on August 31, 2011 at 3:05pm

      Biblical illiteracy is rampant all across this country. The less Americans know what’s in the Bible, the greater our problems seem to become. Gee, think there’s a correlation?

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    • Kaoscontrol
      Posted on August 31, 2011 at 3:16pm

      Come on Pastor Matt.
      You sound like the meteorologist complaining that no one in his audience knows how to predict a hurricane.
      While it is true that many need to study their bible more, let‘s keep enough humility to realize that’s why God called you as a pastor to teach the word.

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    • Jaycen
      Posted on August 31, 2011 at 3:57pm

      I attribute it to the number of folks who never read their own holy book, but instead allow the words to be spoon-fed to them by another human being.

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    • SamIamTwo
      Posted on August 31, 2011 at 5:20pm

      Jaycen,

      Do you know how many years it took Paul before he figured it out??? How many nights in jail did he spend. lol

      Anyhoo, we all learn at different speeds…we are not all the same. Thank God for that.

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    • 4truth2all
      Posted on September 1, 2011 at 12:11pm

      We as christians are called to love. ( Love the LORD your God, love your neighbors). When this is as it should be; we help, it could be no other. A thousand different people a thousand different needs.
      Those that do not read their bibles we encourage.
      Those that are hungry we feed.
      Those in prison we visit.
      I could continue… we are to be patient with the less mature
      humble always, not thinking more of ourselves then we ought to.
      James 1:22 Says… do not merely read the Word, do what it says.

      Jesus is comming back for His “bride”. She will be made ready for His return.
      Discipline is comming to the body of Christ because He loves us. He will do whatever it takes to make “us ready”.
      I don‘t think I’m ready…hows your holiness?
      AS I AM HOLY, BE YE ALSO !!!
      I could write numerious bible verses for every point I have mentioned here. I personally chose not to do this. I am a teacher of Gods Word to teenagers, and I am also one who is taught in various ways. My ear is always on the tracks. In this I do not boast, for it is the Lord that inclines my ear !!!

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  • ThinkThenDo
    Posted on August 31, 2011 at 2:50pm

    So, who authorizes groups like the ABS to retranslate the Bible? Is it still considered “scripture” when they do this? How do we know they haven’t changed the meaning or context in some subtle or significant way?

    (When I compare the above “new translation” verse to the KJV of it, it seems significantly different. While I agree that “but not in despair” can mean something similar to “we never give up”, I wouldn’t call them equal.)

    When you consider that differing takes on what the Bible’s verse “really mean” is the basis for why there are so many different Christian religions, I’d think that a “retranslation” or “modernization” of the text would be frought with opportunities for disagreement…

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    • Rational Man
      Posted on August 31, 2011 at 3:18pm

      A person has to do their own research to find out what is best.
      After I did my research and have listened to the pros and cons of different translations, my opinion goes as follows.
      KJV= best
      NKJV= second
      NAS= third
      The NKJV is just worded so it is easier to read and understand without learning ‘old english’ slangs and such. NAS is the best modern english version that is true to original texts. Good for study but not as good for general reading as the NKJV, which is the best ‘allround’ version, IMO
      It’s interesting to note that the NIV is the most popular in America and has so many serious errors. It is translated by paragraph, not word for word which has lead to quite a few errors. Unlike the others mentioned which are translated word for word. Look it up yourself.
      I will not waste time with any other than these three translations.
      This is my opinion and I will not argue it anymore. Although I do respect the, “KJV ONLY”, crowd, I have given up arguing that I am saved and in the truth despite not only reading the KJV. That view, again, IMO, is a little over the top.

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  • J4Y
    Posted on August 31, 2011 at 2:48pm

    I wounder if there will ever be a muslim verson called Captin Arabia and if he will say “O Prophet, urge the faithful to fight. If there are twenty among you with determination they will vanquish two hundred; if there are a hundred then they will slaughter a thousand unbelievers, for the infidels are a people devoid of understanding.” Qur’an:8:65

    http://www.br0wn.biz

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  • grudgywoof
    Posted on August 31, 2011 at 2:46pm

    I feel this way…….but I am not affraid. Thank you Lord Jesus for your mercy, what would I do without you? If your house is built on sand the rains will come and the winds blow and the house will sink and be distroyed but if your house is built on the solid rock of Jesus then yours will withstand the storm no matter what.

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  • old white guy
    Posted on August 31, 2011 at 2:43pm

    so americans are not a smart as they think. i guess that must be so. look who is the president. look at what congress did when they had the power not to. when evryone has been dumbed down to the level of an obama voter the country will have reached nirvana. all will be perfect and all will be die or be slaves to those they have elected. carry on regardless of the outcome..

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    • cloudsofwar
      Posted on August 31, 2011 at 2:59pm

      oh yeah, at least we can still watch dancing with the stars or is it america got talent, no matter. i want my mtv. thats most americans. those of us on the right are sicken by this gov.

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  • gdbhusker
    Posted on August 31, 2011 at 2:42pm

    Why would most Americans know where this statement was from??? I mean big liberal government ha made it almost a crime to be a Christian…. they have removed all prayer, images, and sacramental objects from every school, state and local gov, and are pushing to remove it from the capital…Most people who are interested in learning the bible and Christianity are afraid of being deemed a racist and bigot….. YHWH have mercy on this nation!!!!

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    • Brizz
      Posted on August 31, 2011 at 2:50pm

      Good points

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    • capitalismrocks
      Posted on August 31, 2011 at 3:13pm

      Nicely said…

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    • Rational Man
      Posted on August 31, 2011 at 3:32pm

      Why would most Christians know that this phrase was in this PG-13 rated movie in the first place?
      Let alone recognize it in it‘s destorted ’translation’.

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    • Longing for Change
      Posted on August 31, 2011 at 3:43pm

      Amen!

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    • ozchambers
      Posted on August 31, 2011 at 4:53pm

      I didnt recognize it in that translation either. Some of these newest translations cater to the practically illiterate and so much of the poetry is lost. I think the NIV does a fine job of clearing out some of ye olde english while still keeping the beauty and prose of the scriptures alive. NKJV is another decent “modern” translation IMO.

      P.S.- Still, I can see Captain America saying that! And everyone knows Jesus is a red-blooded American anyhow ;-P

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    • Darren
      Posted on August 31, 2011 at 6:35pm

      OZChambers;

      “Some of these newest translations cater to the practically illiterate and so much of the poetry is lost.”

      I think the King James Version is the best in terms of retaining the poetic nature of scripture.

      “P.S.- Still, I can see Captain America saying that! And everyone knows Jesus is a red-blooded American anyhow ;-P”

      LOL!

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  • LOJ
    Posted on August 31, 2011 at 2:41pm

    Never be ashamed of the gospel. Hebrews 4:12 For the word of God is living and active. Sharper than any double edged sword, it penetrates even to dividing soul and spirit, joints and marrow; it judges the thoughts and attitudes of the heart. Nothing in all creation is hidden from God’s sight. Everything is uncovered and laid bare before the eyes of him to whom we must give account. I am glad Captain America is relishing the scriptures.

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