Angle: Republicans Have ‘Lost Their Standards’ and ‘Their Principles’
- Posted on October 4, 2010 at 10:03am by
Jonathon M. Seidl
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In private, Sharron Angle may be as bold and brash as she is in public. An audio recording has emerged of the Nevada GOP Senate candidate criticizing the Republican establishment during a meeting with third-part rival Scott Ashjian and his allies.
“The Republicans have lost their standards, they’ve lost their principles,” Angle said in a thirty-eight minute audio recording obtained by the Las Vegas Sun. “Really that’s why the machine in the Republican Party is fighting against me… They have never really gone along with lower taxes and less government.”
According to HuffPo, Angle goes on to make a biblical comparison:
“You gotta get my armor off and let me pick up this sling,” she said drawing a comparison between her fight and that of David and Goliath. “That’s exactly where I am right now, is trying to get them to leave me alone for long enough so I can get my sling and go after this guy. There are just these issues.”
Politico’s Ben Smith thinks the recording reveals a consistent message:
It suggests that — at least for the purposes of this conversation with a Tea Party figure — behind the facade of a real grassroots outsider who hates the organized Republican Party is … a real grassroots outsider who hates the organized Republican Party.
According to the Sun‘s John Ralston (who released the recording) the meeting was meant to convince Ashjian that unless he embraces and supports Angle’s candidacy, the Tea Party of Nevada contender could help Democratic incumbent Harry Reid win.
You can listen to the entire 38-minute recording here. As Ralston says, “It is a unique and quite entertaining fly-on-the-wall look inside a campaign.”
UPDATE:
Politico reports that Ashjian is the one who recorded the meeting and leaked it to Ralston so as to protect Ashjian if Angle “lied” about the meeting:
Ashjian told POLITICO that he secretly recorded his meeting with Angle to “give people the truth” in case she tried to lie about what happened during their encounter. He also took responsibility for giving the tape to Ralston, who did not reveal his source when he originally wrote about the recording.
“I gave it to him,” Ashjian said. “So they can’t continue to lie about me to the press.”
Interesting to note is that Ashjian believes recording the conversation without Angle’s knowledge is “100 percent legal.“ Yet Politico points out that ”Nevada is one of a dozen of states in which both parties must consent to being taped in order for a recording to be lawful.”
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Comments (119)
BetterDays
Posted on October 4, 2010 at 11:09amGood for you Sharon Angle! For indded both parties have been “sold down the river” by their respective polititans, to our consternation. But I am of the mind that the proof is in the pudding, I vote the “establishment” out, and should the “new” person be just like the ‘old’, then I will make them a “one” termer.
Report Post »On a side issue, on progressive liberals: They have now intention of “redistributing” their wealth, it‘s yours’ and mine they want to give to “third world” nations. And just what would a person in lets say “Kenya” do with that sudden influx of your money? Their is no imfrastructure to build upon, no market place for ideas or to encourage business. However their is that “barrister” who will glady help the newly wealthy quadruple their wealth, but he requires a small retainer to begain the process. In other words, much like every other “social welfare” progrm, the cash ends up in the hands of thieves like Gyorgy Schwartz (George Soros) and the “suposed” “poor victim’s” just join the rest of the globe in a large scale enslavement. Saddly, being a Godless group, the far lefts rank and file don‘t and can’t see the inheirent danger in what their task masters plan truely is. The are blinded by ideology, and a basic “good” desire to help others. But they are led (much as the Republican party) are led by wicked hearted, control freeks. And to men such as these, gnostic thinking is the norm and the rule. This for of world “social justice” has been with us a very long time, but I leave it up to those who might doubt this to prove me wrong. For I can trace a 1567 year long trail of one group that has long sought to control the world, a organization that still pulls all the strings behind the scenes. Personally I despise conspiracy theroys, but this is conspiracy fact.
Juan Gault
Posted on October 4, 2010 at 1:17pmQuite a comprehensive missive, and very well thought out.
Not sure I read it, but would stated term limits be out of the question for our representatives and senators?
Report Post »SueDinNY
Posted on October 4, 2010 at 10:52amI’m shocked. You mean we have a politician speaking the TRUTH? Go, Sharron.
Report Post »Chet Hempstead
Posted on October 4, 2010 at 6:25pmAll politicians speak the truth when they think that nobody’s listening. The fact that she only says this stuff when she thinks we’ll never hear it makes her a typical politician just like all the rest.
Report Post »bob fink
Posted on October 4, 2010 at 10:50amThe republican party will lose, if they are unwilling to listen to the majority of republicans in the field. The party must change, for it to gain back anything. It is the same old story, Rove on Fox telling us that this division will cause the lose of seats in November, it is not the division that is causing this, it is the RNO’s that continue to bully all other clear thinking members of its party. The old establishment of republicans will kill this party, not us that are trying to change it. The republican old guard still picking our candidates, that stinks.
Report Post »sorebird
Posted on October 4, 2010 at 10:50amThe truth will set us free.
Report Post »poverty.sucks
Posted on October 4, 2010 at 10:47amAngle‘s comments are reflections of themselves because that’s all they know.
Report Post »SATX 19
Posted on October 4, 2010 at 6:58pmHuh?
Report Post »tobywil2
Posted on October 4, 2010 at 10:44amRegardless of how stupid, inconsistent and brash MS. Angle is, Regardless of how much she is trashed by the establishment, the alternative makes her look like an Angel!!!!
Report Post »http://commonsense21c.com/
QweeQwa
Posted on October 4, 2010 at 11:01amNo she is still a Dingbat!
Give her credit for performing what only months ago was thought to be an impossibility. Harry R. will be re-elected.
Report Post »Ruler4You
Posted on October 4, 2010 at 10:43amI have to agree with TRUTHTALKER, it really ‘seems’ to be confined to politicians where ones principles and the nations founding principles are flushed the moment a politician takes office. No matter what rhetoric they spew in life or the campaign before hand.
Report Post »grnhrn
Posted on October 4, 2010 at 10:42amThank-you sharron for saying what I’ve been saying for years. Just like odonnell wonder what kickbacks and legislation castle delivers to rove,kraughtheimer, and other political elites. Wish I could vote for her- instead I’ve got to pin my hopes on dino rossi hopefully de-seating patty murray after 18 years of destroying washington state.
Report Post »Gita
Posted on October 4, 2010 at 11:08amAll my kids live in WA State. You are all in my prayers! Patty Murray , the tennis shoe mom, changed to boots on the neck of the people!
Report Post »Iamtheoracle
Posted on October 4, 2010 at 10:37amI think it is great she is not afraid to speak her mind and the truth – we do not want to vote in more people who will be part of the machine… the Repubs need to shake off this ol’ boys club mentality as well.
Report Post »tobywil2
Posted on October 4, 2010 at 10:36amThe GOP’S “Pledge to America” “as it could be and should be.”
The “Pledge to America” is not a complete solution to the problem of maintaining and strengthening the American Revolution. If implemented, it would simply maintain a disastrous “status quo,” and slow the increase in tyranny, but under new management.
It is simply not enough to just slow the advance of tyranny. If the American Revolution is to survive, the trend must be reversed. In 1913, the “wannabe tyrant”, Woodrow Wilson, summarized our plight. (WOODROW WILSON – “The New Freedom: A Call For the Emancipation of the Generous Energies of a People” – PUBLISHER BIBLIOBAZAAR ) He said:
“If the government is to tell big business men how to run their business, then don’t you see that big business men have to get closer to the government even than they are now? Don’t you see that they must capture the government, in order not to be restrained too much by it? Must capture the government? They have already captured it.”
Terminology has changed in the intervening 100 years. “Big Business,” today, would be called “Special Interest” or lobbyist; other than that the meaning of President Wilson is both clear and ominous. President Wilson’s quote confirms that the objective of the “Wannabe Peers” is to use the government’s monopoly on force for their personal benefit and the benefit of their political cronies at the expense and wellbeing of the general population.
Congress and the Bureaucracy continuously create new rules and regulations that favor the politically powerful over the general population (the individual or innovator). These statutes are made in anticipation of personal gain or political support with a total disregard for the economic consequences. This tyranny, continually expanding, is increasing the cost of everything we buy and inhibits innovation, the life blood of economic progress.
As grievous as the economic problems are, the economic problems cannot even be addressed until the tyrant’s ability to intimidate and punish political dissent is neutralized. Political dissenters must be protected from retaliation by the “Wannabe Peers” before any effective program to correct the oppression described by President Wilson is even practical.
The pledge to America that we really need:
• Revise Congressional rules to prohibit legislation that pertains to more than one topic or issue. The text of the legislation may not exceed the number of words in the Constitution (including amendments.) All legislation, including an “Economic Impact Statement” must be released to the public for 72 hours before a Congressional vote.
• A law that creates an “Independent Prosecutor” to investigate allegations of investigations and prosecution of political dissenters. The law would provide mandatory jail time for the perpetrator. The “Wannabe Peer” would have to make restitution for any cost and damages incurred by the victim. Once the allegation of political prosecution was made, the investigation against the victim would be halted until the “special prosecutor” makes a decision on indicting the “Wannabe Peer.”
• Require an “Economic Impact Statement” on all rules, regulations and laws created by both Congress and the Bureaucracy, past and future. If we take Woodrow Wilson’s statement at face value, most of these restrictions were made to benefit “big business men” (special interest) at the expense of the general population. All regulations and rules that fulfill President Wilson’s prophesy should be rescinded. The “Economic Impact Statement” would be prepared by qualified economists and contain statements by those who have been or would be adversely affected by the action. The “Economic Impact Statement” would identify those who would profit from the legislation, those who would lose and the effect on the general economy.
• Congressional approval of the “Economic Impact Statement” and the issue would be required to maintain or implement the law or regulation. Both the “Economic Impact Statement” and the Congressional vote on the approval would be available to the public.
• Periodic review of all legislation will be required to ensure that the original “Economic Impact Statement” was accurate and the legislation is beneficial. Congressional approval of the revised “Economic Impact Statement” would be required or the law would be repealed.
• Condemnation of the “Global Warming Scam” (or whatever they are calling it now) and investigate the perpetrators of the scam for fraud.
• Convert the United State’s fossil fuel resources to reserves by creating a “Strategic Petroleum Production Authority” with the capacity to produce 75% of the world’s energy needs. Facilities to be limited to 5% of World Energy requirements except when the price of oil exceeds a “trigger price” determined by annual economic studies. Initial “trigger price” will probably be less than 20.00/barrel. For more details click on following link: http://commonsense21c.com/files/CE-1-5-09.pdf
• Initiate a Congressional investigation into the extent of foreign control of the United States news media and foreign contributions to candidates for office. This might require an “Independent Counsel.”
• Eliminate the conditions that make it attractive for illegal aliens to enter the country. Allow 90 days for those here illegally to return home. After 90 days, illegal aliens would be put into work camps with their wages, less expenses, placed in escrow. They will be deported as soon as the escrow account equals the cost of deportation and the taxes owed on their illegal earnings.
• Revise immigration procedure to establish rigid quotas for immigration based upon the ability of the economy to absorb the new citizens. Establish requirements such that only desirable and productive individuals who can prove that they will have a means of livelihood will be approved. Those fluent in English and knowledgeable in United States History will be given the 1st priority. Those not fluent in English and history will be required to demonstrate an acceptable level of fluency in English and a knowledge of United States History within 2 years of entering the country. Those failing to demonstrate the English or history requirement must prove that an effort was made to comply and offer proof of a continuing effort to correct the deficiency. Date to show compliance will be established. All immigrants will swear to uphold and defend the Constitution and laws of the United States against any aggressors as long as they are residents of the United States. Those (and their immediate family) serving 3 years in the Military will be eligible for citizenship.
• Equally enforce all laws of the United States, without regard to race, creed or color.
• Protect the individual from the initiation of physical force, both foreign and domestic.
What did I miss?
http://commonsense21c.com/
Report Post »Eagle07
Posted on October 4, 2010 at 11:57amEnd the authority of the President to appoint Czars or in the least make them have to be vetted by congress.
Report Post »Juan Gault
Posted on October 4, 2010 at 1:20pmTerm limits ,I believe.
Other than that, most comprehensive post, thanks.
Report Post »Contrarianthinker
Posted on October 4, 2010 at 7:01pmYou really spent a great deal of time and thought on this. I suggest you send this to Sarah Palin and Glenn Beck as well as other key Tea Party people.
Thank you for your love of our Repubic.
Report Post »GrassRootBeer
Posted on October 4, 2010 at 10:35amGO SHARRON!!! She is voicing the frustration of Republican citizens everywhere!
Take heed Michael Steele, Karl Rove, & “GOP” politicians!
Report Post »motorman
Posted on October 4, 2010 at 10:34amThe parties are just two heads on the same snake. Angle obviously wants to deal with the snake once and for all…simple Tea Party principle.
Report Post »QweeQwa
Posted on October 4, 2010 at 10:50amJon Scott Ashjian is the Tea ****** candidate.
Report Post »BoilitDown
Posted on October 4, 2010 at 10:29amCull the RINOs from the herd. The Huffington post isn‘t the best place to see how conservative the Republican Party is or isn’t. HuffPo probably agrees with San Franciscans in the news today who think the transgender sex shop owner is a conservative.
Report Post »VegasLibertarian
Posted on October 4, 2010 at 10:29amOh really??? The Las Vegas Sun found damming audio of Sharron Angle???? Big Friggin Surprise!!!! The Democratic machine has been pouring money into this race; Friends for Harry Reid, Patriot Majority and other don’t give a damned about Nevadans or Las Vegans, they only care about the senate Majority Leader and his power to pass laws that affect the nation.
Report Post »Beckofile
Posted on October 4, 2010 at 11:19amIf you vote there…Please Please take a couple friends to the polls. We are counting on the Nevada folks to save us from the Progressive cancer that effects all of us around the country. I will do my best here in Colorado to oust Bennett who voted for all of Reid’s huge spending. Go Ken Buck who is part of DeMints conservative PAC with Angle. Keep eye on message and organize like you work for ACORN but the conservative branch. Get like minded folks to vote!!!
Report Post »ron the veteran
Posted on October 4, 2010 at 2:14pmwe cant stop after this election eather we must get every freedom loving american to help throw these commie lovers and followers out of our nation. they have infiltrated our schools and universitys to try and teach our kids socialism. this showing of the tides foundations propaganda film “the story of stuff” a george soros funded film to indoctranate our kids must be banned by outraged parents. go to your kids school demand they stop showing it. remove all liberals from our schools and school boards. its our nations future at stake. demand the teach the basics nothing more. its not the schools place to teach our children about gays or the enviroment, thats our job. this is why our kids are doing so lousy. they are trying to teach things that are the parents job to do. its time to take back more than our nation we need to control our schools too.
Report Post »VegasLibertarian
Posted on October 5, 2010 at 1:23amI will!
Report Post »WVRob
Posted on October 4, 2010 at 10:27amMore power to her. She’s right about the Republican Party. I’ve left the party, I support conservative Americans not party establishment elitists.
Report Post »wingedwolf
Posted on October 4, 2010 at 10:25amAbsolutely right. Good for Angle. Either I’m unable to understand English or she said what the rest of us are thinking and saying. There has been very little difference between the demolibersocialcommie part and the republicans for a very long time. They have both been pandering to the same unions and the same lobbyists. This culture of corruption must be halted in it’s tracks. That is our responsibility and we have been letting the inmates police their own asylum for way too long.
Report Post »sbenard
Posted on October 4, 2010 at 10:22amAnd this is why I left the Republican Party more than 10 years ago. They abandoned their principles.
“In matters of style, swim with the current; in matters of principle, stand like a rock.” –Thomas Jefferson.
Report Post »“Always vote for principle, though you may vote alone, and you may cherish the sweetest reflection that your vote is never lost.” John Quincy Adams
wingedwolf
Posted on October 4, 2010 at 10:29amthe demolibersocialcommies ARE voting their their priciples….they don’t have any, just a big case of “the gimmies.”
Report Post »AmericanPatriot01
Posted on October 4, 2010 at 1:41pmWatch out for the defectors, most of them will switch sides and join forces with their progressive buddies on the republican side. I like to call them fair weather Americans. The ones they join up with are the progressives in the republican party, they know that, to them, it doesnt matter which side gets the office, because they own the candidates on both sides. The people now know and will no longer be decieved, we are watching and taking notes, and we will cut out the diseased and currupted amoung us.
Report Post »CoFX
Posted on October 4, 2010 at 10:19amI’m curious as to how much support the RNC has given Angle in this race. You would think this would be one of those battles worth fighting – thier chance to get Reid off the Hill. Then again, they may be more afraid of Angle coming in and screwing up all thier backroom deals, and lose thier #1 scapegoat in Reid. The Establishment on the Right needs to wake up and see where the people have put thier support. Have they forgotten the primaries already? We are just as sick of the RINOs as we are of the Left.
Report Post »Juan Gault
Posted on October 4, 2010 at 1:08pmAmen brother! RINO (Republican In Name Only) are also to be dealt with on Nov 02!
As a sage man(POTUS) once said, “Your either with us, or you are against us”
Report Post »Marylou7
Posted on October 4, 2010 at 10:17amShe is right. There are progressives in both political parties and they must GO AWAY.
Report Post »gapch68
Posted on October 4, 2010 at 5:00pmIsn’t this the guy who was outed as a fund raiser for Harry Reid and it was speculated that Harry put Ashjian on the ballot as a tea party candidate to help him win? That came out a while back, why are there not stories pointing it out now. Saw his interview w/ Cavuto and he seems really slimy. Definitely NOT a tea party supporter!
Report Post »whitaker
Posted on October 4, 2010 at 8:21pmAnother clue to Ashjian link is calling the Tea party Express racist. Something the dim/left do all the time.
Report Post »PROAMERICAN
Posted on October 4, 2010 at 10:16amOur secret is out! What are we to do??
Report Post »QweeQwa
Posted on October 4, 2010 at 10:14amDingbat Alert!
Dingbat Alert!
Report Post »thepatriotdave
Posted on October 4, 2010 at 10:38amYes you are!
Report Post »EqualJustice
Posted on October 4, 2010 at 11:18amThanks for the warning.. now go away! ;)
Report Post »Rational Thoughts
Posted on October 4, 2010 at 10:14amDuh!
Report Post »Will NV
Posted on October 4, 2010 at 10:13amNo more RINO’s
Report Post »Dustyluv
Posted on October 4, 2010 at 1:23pmRINO season is over for a while until next primaries…Jackass season opens November 2nd..
Report Post »WireWizard
Posted on October 4, 2010 at 10:10amThis is what we need, more people who speak their mind and back it up. I love Chris Christie!
Where is John Galt?
Report Post »Juan Gault
Posted on October 4, 2010 at 1:03pmJohn is definetly around, when he will have his coming out party,remains to be seen.
Keep the faith, and vote !
Report Post »glassbeadlady
Posted on October 4, 2010 at 5:23pmChris C. is doing the hard thing, our new senators and congressmen can take a lesson from him. In Utah we rid ourselves of Bennett and it was my pleasure as a state delegate to vote against him. Now all the deals he make in D.C. are coming out. Terms limits!
Report Post »TruthTalker
Posted on October 4, 2010 at 10:10amNot true. Republicans no. Republican POLICTICIANS yes.
Report Post »Beckofile
Posted on October 4, 2010 at 11:10amWow…This is great news….A politician telling the truth? Wait until you all hear what is going on for the Govenors race in Colorado. GOP polling 15% American Constitution Party 35% and Democrat 45% The GOP is officially the third party candidate…YES And if the GOP supported country over party they would withdraw and let the ACP wipe out the progressive cancer that is growing in our state. Go Angle and suprise them all!
Report Post »Rita
Posted on October 4, 2010 at 12:18pmThis is why we need term limits. We should never have any Senator or Congressman hold a seat for decades.
Report Post »AmericanPatriot01
Posted on October 4, 2010 at 1:30pmI say GO ANGLE!!!!!! I am for the elimination of progressives everywhere they are. Even the republican progressives need to be removed from office and public life. This is the cancer that ha deminished our country in so many ways. They don’t get it, we are sick and tired of the progressive crap. It is the reason we feel as if the party fight is useless because no matter which side we vote for seem to get the same ole crap with a different wrapper. PUT A STOP TO THE MADNESS!!! VOTE THEM ALL OUT!!! and put real people in, that are not currupted with the liberal progressive disease.
God hear our prayers!!!! Open the peoples eyes and ears and let them acknowledge the truth behind the vail of deception so that they can make the correct decision based on truth. AMEN!!
Report Post »ron the veteran
Posted on October 4, 2010 at 1:53pmthe republicans dont have a bunch of commies and marxists in their ranks it was pretty clear who the dems have after saturdays may day event. do they really think americans are going to put up with all the commies we suddenly find we have in the woodwork. this is a good time for all you commie lovin sick-os to make your travel arrangements. im sure hugo chaves will welcome you all. its time to make it perfectly clear that they all need to get the hell out!
Report Post »ron the veteran
Posted on October 4, 2010 at 2:00pmlets call the progressives what they really are commies. its typical of the ******** to try and rename things to try and hide the real meaning of it. progressive means commie liberal means commie. this means every democrat needs to be investigated to the fullest extent. obama is still hiding his past but soon he wont be able to hide. get your ass ready mr obama i see a long long jail term in your near future. DEMAND THE TRUTH! EXCEPT NOTHING LESS.
Report Post »timeisnow
Posted on October 4, 2010 at 2:29pmWhat this is a surprise? Huff po had this story this morning and they are acting like they just heard this…That proves they are not paying attention
Report Post »timeisnow
Posted on October 4, 2010 at 2:30pmI forgot to add thats why the Tea party formed. We hope they have learned their lesson, we will give them a chance in November, if they fail again, we will fire them again.
Report Post »rmsuperglide
Posted on October 4, 2010 at 5:54pmThe RNC has truly lost thier way,it is up to true conservetives to put them on track.If not they will lose us!