Angry Obama Responds to Dem Critics on Tax Compromise
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WASHINGTON (The Blaze/AP) — Facing strong Democratic criticism, President Barack Obama is crisply defending concessions he made to Republicans as part of a tax-cut compromise.
The president spoke Tuesday at a news conference as the top Democrats in Congress signaled they will seek changes in the agreement.
He said he is “happy to be tested” by Republicans next year, but responded to Democratic critics by saying that if they held out for for the leftist position on every issue nothing would get done. He also said that while the American people agreed with his position Republicans did not.
Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid says the deal is not yet completed and that “more work” needs to be done. Reid met earlier with Vice President Joe Biden and members of the Democratic rank-and-file.
Sen. Frank Lautenberg (D., N.J.) is not pleased with the proposed tax deal. “I don’t think it’s a fair deal,” he told reporters outside the Senate chamber. “I think a ransom was paid, and it was a very high price.”
“I had a very good business career,” he added, “and I don’t give a damn about a tax cut.”
Across the Capitol, House Speaker Nancy Pelosi issued a statement saying that discussions with the president and the Democratic caucus will continue in the days ahead.
“It’s progress, ” Sen. Jim DeMint (R., S.C.) told NRO, “we got the president to come more toward our side.”
THIS IS A BREAKING NEWS UPDATE. Check back soon for further information. AP’s earlier story is below.
WASHINGTON (AP) – His tax cut compromise under Democratic attack, President Barack Obama set a news conference on short notice on Tuesday to sell the plan worked out in secret talks with Republicans over several days.
Several officials said the cost of the package could add $900 billion or more to the deficit over two years by extending tax cuts from the Bush era that are due to expire at year’s end, renewing jobless benefits through the end of 2011 and granting a one-year cut in Social Security taxes.
Speaker Nancy Pelosi, normally one of Obama’s staunchest allies, made plain her unhappiness with a statement that contained no commitment to help pass the plan. “We will continue discussions with the president and our caucus in the days ahead,” said the statement, issued 18 hours after the president made his announcement.
The administration mounted a full-scale defense of the agreement, saying it would pump billions into the economy at a time it is recovering from the worst recession in eight decades and unemployment stands at 9.8 percent.
Sen. Joseph Lieberman of Connecticut, a Democrat-turned-independent, urged support for the plan. “This tentative agreement is an example of Washington working across party lines to confront the challenges facing our nation,” he said.
But in public and private, Democrats expressed anger that Obama had bowed to Republican demands to extend the expiring tax cuts on the upper income and make additional concessions to the GOP on estate tax relief.
Vice President Joseph Biden spent part of his day in the Capitol, meeting first with Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid and then the party’s rank and file. House Democrats arranged a similar closed-door meeting for late in the day, but it was not known if Biden would attend.
Republican officials said the vice president had played a key role in negotiations on the deal, and had spoken often in recent days with GOP Senate Leader Mitch McConnell of Kentucky.
Biden also fielded complaints from Pelosi and other Democrats in a meeting Saturday night, and again on Monday at the White House before the president announced publicly he had agreed on a framework agreement with the GOP.
The liberal group MoveOn, which claims 5 million members, came out against the plan, saying the wealthiest Americans don’t need tax cuts that were scheduled to expire this month. “The president’s commitment to bipartisanship should not mean leaving principles behind,” MoveOn said.
But Biden urged congressional Democrats to quickly embrace the plan, saying Congress needs to move on to other issues before the Democrats lose control of the House in January. The president has made ratification of a new arms control treaty with Russia a top year-end priority.
Both houses must approve any tax bill.
In her statement, Pelosi said the compromise plan shows that Democrats want to help low- and middle-income workers while the GOP’s chief concern is the wealthiest Americans.
But others noted that Obama had abandoned a long-held position in fashioning the compromise.
Obama promised in his 2008 campaign – and many times since – that these breaks would be continued only for the middle-class. But some in his own party and liberal groups attacked the new tax plan, and even the Democratic leadership in Congress gave it a cool, noncommittal reception.
Besides holding current tax rates in place for all, the proposal would extend unemployment benefits and reduce payroll taxes for a year, which would help many lower-income Americans.
Obama has said that he still prefers to let the tax cuts expire for households earning more than $250,000 a year. Obama, while acknowledging Democratic unrest, agreed to extend all the tax breaks for two years, noting that Republicans wanted a permanent extension.
The emerging agreement includes tax breaks for businesses that the president said would contribute to the economy’s recovery from the worst recession in eight decades.
The proposed Social Security tax cut would apply to virtually every working American. For one year they would pay 4.2 percent of their income, instead of 6.2 percent, to the government retirement program, fattening U.S. paychecks by $120 billion in 2011.
Someone earning $40,000 a year would receive a $800 benefit, and a $70,000 earner would save $1,400, officials said. More than three-fourths of all Americans pay more in these so-called payroll taxes than in federal income taxes.
The White House said money from other sources would be shifted so the Social Security trust fund loses no revenue.
Obama said he reluctantly made another concession to Republicans, concerning the estate tax. It would tax estates worth more than $5 million at a rate of 35 percent, a GOP goal. Democrats favored a $3.5 million threshold, with a 45 percent tax on anything higher.
Obama’s willingness to compromise with Republicans comes a month after the GOP won resounding victories in congressional, gubernatorial and state legislative elections.
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Associated Press writers Julie Pace and Alan Fram contributed to this report.
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rbagala
Posted on December 7, 2010 at 4:12pmThe very rich are already taxed and pay most of the taxes of the nation. Increase their taxes and they have the ability to take their business, money and leave the nations. Many of the very rich are on speaking terms with leaders across the world and already own property in other nations.
Report Post »While developing nations are giving ‘tax holidays’ in order to attract the wealthiest Americans. President Obama is under the illusion that by raising the taxes on the wealthiest Americans these Americans will simply “obey” and pay.
They are already leaving high tax states to more tax friendly states and others have already opted to leaving this nation, adding to the unemployed after they move their business to foreign shores
Most wealthy Americans have created their wealth by their ingenuity, classic example being Bill Gates and through this ingenuity many jobs have been created. Obama wants to bite the only hand that still remains as a hope for private enterprise and ingenuity.
Big Toe
Posted on December 7, 2010 at 4:12pm@don’tteabagme brother Can you elaborate more on how it will add 700,000to the deficit. Think hard. Now think again Cause your still listening to the Democraps. What they say is either a lie or just BS. So think before you respond. Answer: It doesn’t add one penny. Keep listening to those fools.
Report Post »Rn mom
Posted on December 7, 2010 at 4:10pmThis president just becomes more incredible as the days pass. It’s like he begging to get something started, I pray for his personal safety. I know he’s to smart to make these “mistakes” with America- I am very suspicious of his intent. He is revising history in real time using the podium of the president as his editing pen. Bad moves Barry! At least if he was honest from the get go about who he really is- I could respect him. I might even respect the movement, even though I don’t agree with it.
Report Post »hauschild
Posted on December 7, 2010 at 3:56pmThis move should have been made PERMANENT (or, at leas until they decide to raise taxes the next time), and the rates should have been even lower. I’m still sick as hell that the majority of my 25% isn’t even covering all these unnecessary government workers who will be retiring soon. Next order of business is to eliminate ALL FEDERAL/STATE/LOCAL pensions or reduce by at least 90%. Even 10% is way, way more than any of my employers ever contributed to my 401k plan. Then, the federal workforce needs to be reduced by at least 25% immediately, with more cuts later on.
Report Post »Maximus
Posted on December 7, 2010 at 3:54pmKnock knock.
Who’s there?
Obama… Hello? Hello?
Report Post »Maximus
Posted on December 7, 2010 at 3:52pm‘PUNK says, “Cutting taxes doesn‘t ’cost’ anything! It‘s NOT the government’s money!!! It belongs to the taxpayer who willingly gives it to his elected representative government!!! Entitlements ‘COST’ money, not tax cuts. Besides, NO TAX WAS CUT!!! The current rate was simply ‘extended’ for 2 years.’
Exactly! The government isn’t cutting taxes more, it is simply extending the previous cuts. It isn’t going to steal more money from people. It ISN‘T the government’s money! It is the money of the earners! Cut spending, like the Dept. of Education.
Report Post »anyad
Posted on December 7, 2010 at 3:50pmI am an independent consultant and business has been awful. I don’t get a penny of unemployment “insurance” … which is OK as I did not pay into the fund. HOWEVER – I am paying for all these extensions of benefits which is NOT OK. Why should I pay (via my bankrupt state borrowing fed funds) for up to 3 years of insurance for some individuals – how is this fair/reasonable/right?
Report Post »brer rabbit
Posted on December 7, 2010 at 3:47pmI am a small buisnes owner and i wish I could run my buisness like the goverment runs. Need more money no problem i just pull it out my ass like they do. When will these idiots relize that you CAN NOT SPEND MORE THAN YOU TAKE IN! Raising taxes on anybody is not the answer get rid of useless government jobs get rid of the unions AND CUT SPENDING!
Report Post »jEEEZ IT’S NOT THAT HARD TO UNDERSTAND!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
HillBillySam1
Posted on December 7, 2010 at 4:07pmThey understand perfectly. It simply doesn’t fit their agenda. Did you notice that Sen. Lautenberg said that he “had” a very good business career? He has a much better one now being a mover and a shaker in the halls of Congress. He could not care less about your business. He, and the other Congresspersons, are only concerned with their “business”. The problem seems to be that we, the American people, look to Congress to SOLVE problems. However, they don’t see things that way. To them, WE are the problem. So they make more problems by trying to circumvent the Constitution. This is going to be a very long fight and we must never give in. I pray that your business does very well, BRER RABBIT. May God pour out His blessings upon you and your family and may good people always do the right thing.
Report Post »brer rabbit
Posted on December 7, 2010 at 7:03pmThank you hillbillysam GOD BLESS YOU AND YOURE FAMILY TOO
Report Post »LadyIzShy
Posted on December 7, 2010 at 3:46pmcut spending.. ya know I got a call this morning saying I will not be working this week because the lady I care for is in the hospital. So I wont have money coming in. this means I will CUT my spending. I will not borrow money or use credit..
CUT spending.. and force term limits
Report Post »John0397
Posted on December 7, 2010 at 3:46pmI still think it’s baloney that we are using the phrase “tax cuts”. There was never any discussion about tax cuts. The discussion was entirely about extending the current tax rates or making the tax rates permanent. The extension of unemployment benefits just added to the deficit so we are still losing where it counts. The extension should have been paid out of stimulus money. Start cutting the budgets and sizes of departments across the board Mr. President if you want to save this republic…. or don’t you want to save this republic??
Report Post »zagfan
Posted on December 7, 2010 at 3:41pmBy leaving the tax as is, it is NOT costing or adding to the debt! Some people have heads thick as rocks in thinking it is adding to the debt. No, is doesn’t add to the debt. All it really does is not pick the pockets of anyone so they have more to spend. Don’t even think that it would have been put on the debt…the government see a dollar they spend five!
Report Post »DagneyT
Posted on December 7, 2010 at 4:00pmAmen, my friend. It’s frustrating to listen to the left. I keep wanting to shake some sense into them!
Report Post »Patriot
Posted on December 7, 2010 at 3:41pmThis is theater. They assume that we are so shallow as to only want to make them (the political elite) suffer. This is all a script and I’m afraid it may not be just the liberals playing the parts. Remember while a whining liberal is a sign that you’re doing something right, that is not the goal just a entertaining by product. We must be firm in sticking to our principles. They are masters at getting us to lose our resolve.
Report Post »BurntHills
Posted on December 7, 2010 at 3:40pmobama, the failure. total. WE WIN.
Report Post »DagneyT
Posted on December 7, 2010 at 3:53pmBe aware. Be very aware! These folks are offering us a diversion so that we don’t notice what the other “hand” is doing. They rule by subterfuge, by smoke and mirrors.
Report Post »DagneyT
Posted on December 7, 2010 at 3:33pmSounds to me like he’s pi$$sed off everyone plus their cousin, uncle & brother! I‘m lovin’ it!
Report Post »standswithafist
Posted on December 7, 2010 at 3:47pmawwwwwwwwww. crow tastes bad. hope next year he gets a triple helping. that ought to bring out the horns he has artfully hidden.
Report Post »Joseph
Posted on December 7, 2010 at 6:03pmlast thing we need is another year of the Obama agenda (a.k.a Soros agenda, but ya know its all the same)
Report Post »American_Woman
Posted on December 7, 2010 at 3:33pmObama said, “American people agreed with his position Republicans did not”. Is he saying that Republicans are not American?
Report Post »Wrath
Posted on December 7, 2010 at 3:31pmI think I heard our Comrade say that raising taxes on the middle class would hurt the economy. Did he really say that? I am ticked as heck at the Repubicans for trading unemployment benefits for tax cuts. The feds have no business giving out unemployment benefits – period. Maybe the Republicans think that the end of November is the end of Tea Party interest. We’re still watching and if they think they can go right back to bundling bad legislation with good, they’re gonna hear from us again.
Report Post »Konservative PUNK
Posted on December 7, 2010 at 3:40pmEXACTLY! Didn’t they pledge to not pass any bill without being able to pay for it? Do they think they can continue spending until January???
Report Post »Gonzo
Posted on December 7, 2010 at 3:31pm“He said he is “happy to be tested” by Republicans next year”
Report Post »Your wish has been granted by genie Bohener. Be careful what you wish for genius.
joseph Fawcett
Posted on December 7, 2010 at 3:29pmI think this is more therater than anything else. I will wait and see what is signed into law and then what happens after that in the next congress. No, I don’t trust anyone in Washington anymore and wonder what the new crop we are sending will fair and how long?
http://www.josephfawcettart.com western artist
Report Post »TeaPartyPatriot
Posted on December 7, 2010 at 3:27pmOverall, this is a BAD deal – “You Lie!” hussein only bent slightly, while the Ruling Class, out-of-touch establishment Repubs caved in to more economic/social atrocities from the lunatic-left.
THE GOOD: improves the d-crat socialists‘ beloved DEATH TAX and doesn’t raise taxes in an economy hobbled by the failed policies of the d-crat socialists – included NOT raising taxes on small business owners to encourage job creation.
THE STINKINGLY BAD: cut the 6.2 percent Social Security payroll tax by 2 percentage points next year (…economic insanity: take a BANKRUPT Social Security program and make it EVEN MORE BANKRUPT !)
THE HORRIBLY UGLY: massively increases the national debt and deficit to preserve a bundle of lunatic-left tax credits and giveaways, including the earned income tax credit, the child tax credit and an outrageous tax credit that helps pay college tuition and helping the creation of a “permanent” class of unemployed living off government welfare.. (…more lunatic-left d-crat socialist wealth re-distribution and a perversion of of self-reliance)
Report Post »dont ****** me bro
Posted on December 7, 2010 at 3:35pmRight because why should the government incent people to go to college and get good jobs and make good money and pay more taxes…
Report Post »DagneyT
Posted on December 7, 2010 at 5:33pmYou are Glenn’s twin brother, right?
Report Post »John Henry
Posted on December 7, 2010 at 6:20pmDear ****** Why should the government be the one to pay for all you lazy assed liberals education? Why do you not get off your underachiever backside and work and pay for your own education. That’s what we did when I was in college. I have never seen anyone so whiney crying and moaning as you on here. No guts no ethics no gumption. Just whine whine whine about how everyone should be given everything off the the backs of those of us who work for a living. Enjoy your misery as you are going to have lots of it for a long time now.
Report Post »Thug sauce
Posted on December 8, 2010 at 4:58pm“The most fantastic piece of madison avenue salesmanship that has been done in the 20th century has been the brilliant stroke of linking together a regressive payroll tax with a bad system of social welfare, calling the two social security and selling them as if they were a bundle”
Report Post »-Milton Friedman
tobywil2
Posted on December 7, 2010 at 3:26pmTHE LEFT REPUDIATES MR. OBAMA?
Report Post »Recently, the media has been filled with stories of the left repudiating President Obama. He is being condemned by the left because of his inability to stamp out the last remnants of individual liberty after almost 2 years in office. According to the news reports the left considers this incompetence. Ridiculous! The real underlying message is that if the left is dissatisfied with Mr. Obama, then he can’t be all that bad, can he? This is a rather transparent effort to convince the gullible that Mr. Obama is not the wannabe tyrant his actions show him to be.
Do not be duped by this media blitz. Every proposal that Mr. Obama has initiated is aimed at oppression of the individual, destruction of the remainder of our Capitalistic system and increasing the power of the wannabe tyrants.
As tyranny always begets poverty and despair that will certainly be the result of Mr. Obama’s proposals
This is just another example of the use of the “preponderance of propaganda”! The wannabe tyrants and their cronies are publicizing lies, half-truths and the irrelevant to avoid a discussion of the issues. Pay no attention to the smokescreen.
When the premise is false the only arguments that can be used are fear mongering, emotion, sarcasm, ridicule, attacking the messenger and misrepresentation of the facts (lying). Those who expect to reap huge profits from our misery caused by tyranny are experts at these tactics.
The only relevant issue is freedom or tyranny!!!! http://commonsense21c.com/
DagneyT
Posted on December 7, 2010 at 3:37pmI agree, with this regime, you always have to watch what the other hand is doing. They rule by smoke and mirrors!
Report Post »MeteoricLimbo
Posted on December 7, 2010 at 3:25pmHe looks like Beelzebub when he is angry…….just sayin
Report Post »OneRepublic4us
Posted on December 7, 2010 at 3:46pmI could tell he was mad, he starts lecturing when he gets mad. That’s when I find something better to do. I don’t need to be lectured to by a socialist tax and spend liberal about money! Repeal the one trillion dollar Obamacare bill!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Report Post »Konservative PUNK
Posted on December 7, 2010 at 3:25pm“It’s progress, ” Sen. Jim DeMint (R., S.C.) told NRO, “we got the president to come more toward our side.”
SCREW THE PRESIDENT! Republicans have a majority mandate! Put forth a Repblican bill and let him veto it to his own peril!
Report Post »MeteoricLimbo
Posted on December 7, 2010 at 3:39pmIts much better to attract the people to you rather then promote an agenda. If a horse needs water, he will find it.
Report Post »MikeinIdaho
Posted on December 7, 2010 at 3:49pmUmm, sorry, but we can’t do that until we ACTUALLY have a majority in the House…in January.
Report Post »crossdraw
Posted on December 8, 2010 at 8:02amVery well said. Like it or not; Obama is a commie swine.PERIOD
Report Post »SND97
Posted on December 7, 2010 at 3:24pmLeave the Liberal party Mr President, Join the GOP :-)
Report Post »trolltrainer
Posted on December 7, 2010 at 3:34pmConservative thinking to him is as alien as the commie/progressive thinking is to us.
Has anyone ever really thought about this? I mean…As conservatives we KNOW we are right, right? Things are pretty simple we can see where every decision Obama makes is 180 degrees the wrong thing to do…
But…Have you ever considered that THEY feel the same way? Ironic and even funny when you think about it. What is so clearly wrong to us is right to them and what we believe is right is so clearly wrong to them. Why are we all so polarized over everything? Why can they not see that redistribution of wealth is wrong? Why can they not see they are creating an entitlement society that can only collapse from the inside as who wants to be the one working their butt off so all the takers can leech off them? Why can they not see the clear examples of where this has all been tried…and has failed?
Report Post »GhostOfJefferson
Posted on December 7, 2010 at 3:54pm@Troll
The difference being, in most cases (not all of course) we have history on our side to show them where their tactics lead. There is very little history on their side that shows that a peaceful society based on individual rights and liberty does anything except free the slaves, empower all individuals and create wealth for the common man.
Their biggest gripes with us, from those I encountered in college, was that not everybody got everything equally and there was strata in society as determined by one’s own ambition and skill. This is the crux of their complaints against liberty.
Of course, that criticism is easily refuted and countless examples of rising out of one’s circumstance exist in free societies. So one has to dig deeper.
And for me, it all reduced to envy and control. They hate that somebody can be better at something than them, they have severe issues with narcissism and cannot admit wrong, and they have an overriding need to control everything because, as mentioned, they cannot admit error ergo they are always right, ergo if we’re wrong they need to put us on the path they choose for us. This, I think, can be traced all the way back to Plato, the first “leftist”, who originated their world view of inferiors swirling around them that need to be controlled by a benevolent dictator.
I see far more debate and actual intellectual ferment (and ability to consider alternative thoughts as a non-threat) on the right and libertarian front than I’ve ever seen from any so called “intellectual” leftist group.
Just my thoughts.
Report Post »trolltrainer
Posted on December 7, 2010 at 4:11pm“I see far more debate and actual intellectual ferment (and ability to consider alternative thoughts as a non-threat) on the right and libertarian front than I’ve ever seen from any so called “intellectual” leftist group.”
Yeah! They are the ones that always claim to be open to new ideas and change, but we all see how militant they get when things do not go their way. Which is another thing i just do not get…There are relatively few “progressives”, what, like 20% outside? Yet they control all the media and all the colleges…But how can the average American, Joe Sixpack, watch stuff like MSNBC and not see through all the anger and bitterness that marks the left? Why are average Americans buying into all the tea party/ GOP/ Palin…hate? Can they not see what is really happening? Of course I have Christian thoughts behind what is going on, but I am speaking secularly now. I know many Americans do not even know who their state governor or vice president is…But as a people…Are we really this stupid?
Report Post »grandmaof5
Posted on December 7, 2010 at 5:29pmSND97, oh, please no. Let him stay where he is so we can watch him like a hawk. I don’t want him changing disguise like a chameleon when I know in his soul he wants to bring this country down. The GOP needs to stand firm on the basic tenets of these bills and give inches, not feet, yards or miles. We have been “bent over” for two years and now it’s their turn to feel some pain. The madder the left gets, the more fun it is to watch the tantrums – just like my 3 yr old grandson when he can’t get his way. What’s right is right and they need to stick to their conservative principles.
Report Post »poverty.sucks
Posted on December 7, 2010 at 6:22pmOnce an ass always an ass, we reserve the right to discriminate membership to those who consistently demonstrate loyalty to Islam and ignorant to our constitution. All the while claiming to be a professor of the constitution. Liars stay to the left, no room for Obama in the GOP.
Report Post »EgoBrain
Posted on December 7, 2010 at 3:23pmOh waaaaaa.
Report Post »BetterDays
Posted on December 7, 2010 at 3:42pmCall a waaabublance, Obama and the socialist cry all the way out of our government…..lol
Report Post »CatB
Posted on December 7, 2010 at 5:05pmI don’t trust him .. I think this is all for show … he got what he wanted unfunded unemployment extentions … Cloward – Piven .. collapse the system. He will try to do it one way or another.
Report Post »snowleopard3200 {mix art}
Posted on December 7, 2010 at 5:19pm@CatB
Agreed, collapse the system. Glen mentioned on his radio show of parts having been established by legislation for the FCC net control back in the Bush administration. The time has come now for us to stand in the truth and prepare for the storm that is here at hand.
The 20th is the next event, and only the control of the military is left to be established.
Stand strong America, for we will take her back one part at a time.
http://www.artinphoenix.com/gallery/grimm
Report Post »Konservative PUNK
Posted on December 7, 2010 at 3:23pm“He also said that while the American people agreed with his position Republicans did not.” -WAIT A MINUTE! Who voted these Republicans into office? Americans? I thought so too. Barry, Buh Bye!
Report Post »tobywil2
Posted on December 7, 2010 at 3:27pmIf Obama’s teleprompter malfunctioned and flashed the TRUTH and Obama chocked on that truth, could the HEIMLICH MANEUVER be applied in time to avoid Biden becoming President? http://commonsense21c.com/
Report Post »Konservative PUNK
Posted on December 7, 2010 at 3:28pm“cost of the package could add $900 billion or more to the deficit over two years by extending tax cuts from the Bush era”
Report Post »Cutting taxes doesn‘t ’cost’ anything! It‘s NOT the government’s money!!! It belongs to the taxpayer who willingly gives it to his elected representative government!!! Entitlements ‘COST’ money, not tax cuts. Besides, NO TAX WAS CUT!!! The current rate was simply ‘extended’ for 2 years.
dont ****** me bro
Posted on December 7, 2010 at 3:30pmMost of our country feels the deficit is too large. The extension of these tax cuts are going to increase the deficit 700B over 10 years. Can you speak Chinese?
Konservative PUNK
Posted on December 7, 2010 at 3:32pmThe Estate Tax is just the government playingthe role of vultures. That money was taxed when it was originally earned and should not be taxed again at the taxpayer’s death. That is disgusting greed on the part of elected buzzards.
Report Post »dont ****** me bro
Posted on December 7, 2010 at 3:33pmso Punk, what gets cut? This is only a good thing if we now cut our spending by at least that much…
Konservative PUNK
Posted on December 7, 2010 at 3:35pmTax cuts INCREASE tax revenue! They also cause businesses to expand and hire new emplyees, who stop collecting unemployment and foodstamps and welfare and start paying taxes!!!
Report Post »GhostOfJefferson
Posted on December 7, 2010 at 3:42pm@dont ****** me bro
No, government spending is going to drive up the debt. Taxes are stolen money, from me and other productive people, it is not the government’s first and they have to account for me having a bit more than others. Your not stealing my money doesn‘t mean that I’m responsible for your bad spending habits.
Please, consider something once without the socialist filters you’ve been taught to view everything through.
Report Post »OneRepublic4us
Posted on December 7, 2010 at 3:43pmOkay, here we go, repeal the one trillion dollar Obamacare bill!
Report Post »Konservative PUNK
Posted on December 7, 2010 at 3:43pmThere are MANY spending cuts that SHOULD be made. Just ask one simple question when evaluating the worthiness of a bill: Does it PROTECT the right to Life, Liberty, and The Pursuit of Happiness without infinging on the same rights of another? That is the role of the Federal Government.
Report Post »GhostOfJefferson
Posted on December 7, 2010 at 3:44pm@******
**so Punk, what gets cut? This is only a good thing if we now cut our spending by at least that much…**
Obamacare. That is the primary driver of the record budget deficit projections. Then reduce and eventually eliminate social security, medicare and medicaid. After that, bring the troops home and reduce military spending, we‘re not the world’s policeman. Additionally, put a major law review in for all current, pending and proposed legislation requiring full documentation of Constitutional authority for the legislation, and the words “interstate trade” are not permitted as justification.
Ta da
Report Post »trolltrainer
Posted on December 7, 2010 at 3:44pmMost working families will tell you that people live according to their means. If they get a raise they simply spend more. When they want to finally get out of debt they need to sell of some junk and tighten the belt and spend less. Making more will rarely help, you only get out of debt by cutting back.
Government is the same, if not worse than the average family because it is NOT THEIR MONEY! They do not care, they can only spend, spend, spend…Raising taxes is not going to do a dang thing for the deficit! If anything it will only cause government to spend more and go even further into debt. You may buy into this shell game, for whatever reason, ****** bro, but you are being awful shortsighted. If/when the government ever gets serious about trying to reduce this deficit they will start some serious cutting back. I hope the new team coming in has the balls for it, it is looking promising…Maybe by 2012 we can start the real work. It will hurt us all, but we need to trim some serious fat. No more movies and dinner out for America…Not for a while…
Report Post »101
Posted on December 7, 2010 at 3:52pmDog & Pony Show…they got you thinking you got the better of the deal!
Obama and the Republicans reached a deal to extend the current tax rates for two more years.
But what the statists are trying to sweep under the rug is that part of this “deal” is that the Republicans will agree to a continuing resolution to fund the government until September 30, 2011.
That means the Republicans are selling out to fund ObamaCare for at least the next ten months.
It’s vital you contact your senators immediately and DEMAND they blow up any shady deals to link extending the current tax rates to funding ObamaCare.
Your action is critical to busting up this deal to fund ObamaCare.
Report Post »HillBillySam1
Posted on December 7, 2010 at 3:53pmPres. Obammy and the Progressives only consider you a viable “American” if you support THEM. Remember the “Punish your enemies” remark our Dear Leader said to the Hispanic caucus concerning anyone opposed to amnesty? You don’t have to be an American citizen to be considered an “American”. You just gave to support the Progressive agenda which is: Anti-Christian, Anti-Capitalist, Non-Sovereignty, Race-Baiting, Class-Warfare, Anti-Military, Anti-Exceptionalism, Pro Global-Governance, Anti-Conservative, Anti-AMERICANISM! Not only is Barak Obama our first African-American president, he is our first Anti-American president as well. Apologies to Jimmy Carter.
Report Post »kreese
Posted on December 7, 2010 at 3:54pmDon’t ****** me bro:
Are you really saying we can’t make serious cuts?
Department of Education, Department of Energy, Homeland Security (we have the FBI)—-there is so much waste in governtment. Get out of Afghanistan, Iraq, Korea, Germany—-Ship all illegals back to whereever—
I know there are many areas to cut. I don’t need to hear about raising taxes until the government makes serious cuts!
Report Post »cessna152
Posted on December 7, 2010 at 4:04pmThese freaking commies complain there is no bipartisanship, then complain about losing revenue, then complain about agreeing with Republicans, then complain….slander….complain. Sheesh, all this bill is, is the status quo with even more spending.
Report Post »tobywil2
Posted on December 7, 2010 at 4:05pmThe tax is levied when the government spend the money! Tax legislation only determines who pays the tax. If government expenditures exceed tax receipts, the result is a tax paid by reducing the value of money (inflation) http://commonsense21c.com/
Report Post »dkhartman
Posted on December 7, 2010 at 4:31pm‘estates WORTH 5 million or more’
Wow, estates shouldn’t get taxed. You shouldn’t get money from someones death you moron.
Report Post »Ellie
Posted on December 7, 2010 at 4:52pmAbsolutely true, American’s overwhelmingly voted in GOP & Tea Party candidates because we don’t agree with the out of control, tax and spend, nanny state that is the Dems wet dream.
The Right to Life, Liberty, and the pursuit of Happiness is the foundation of America. The Socialist, Progressive, & Communist agendas can not be implemented without the devaluation of Life, the restriction or elimination of Liberty, and the forced pursuit of “shared sacrifice” by a passive public for the sole benefit of a political ruling class.
There is no common ground between the murderous scourge of these failed philosophies and the American ideal. No slight agreement between them can be made without diminishing the good that is America. Therefore no one who holds a firm belief in these Evil philosophies can carry out a Sworn Oath to Protect and Defend the Constitution of the United States of America and must be immediately expelled from public office. Anyone running for public office that promotes these Evils under any guise must be identified, vilified, & denied access to any of the halls of power in America.
Click on my name to get your own anti-progressivism gear.
Report Post »TNT1
Posted on December 7, 2010 at 4:54pmWATCH the other hand!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Report Post »trolltrainer
Posted on December 7, 2010 at 5:04pmYep, watch the other hand!
Report Post »snowleopard3200 {mix art}
Posted on December 7, 2010 at 5:08pmWatch the other hand – true indeed, the only Progressives left on the left are the extremists and for now they have absolutely nothing left to lose in quickly collapsing the system inside of the month before the new congress is sworn in. Obama is now in the danger zone from his own party just as Glenn Beck has warned us of.
Watch for the other hand, and for the kick in the teeth coming as well.
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Report Post »Clive
Posted on December 7, 2010 at 5:47pm@dont ****** me bro
you are right, konservative punk doesn’t get it. that money, we are borrowing from china, we will have to pay it back. so basically, its like, “we can pay for this now”, or “we can pay for this later, with interest”. either way, we are paying for this. i’d rather not borrow from china anymore than we have. When the fact is, that 1% of the country, owns 50% of the wealth, its obvious that the system is benefiting them, more than it is others. They don’t need the tax cut, save it for the working families.
“Deficits don’t matter” – Dick Cheney
Report Post »BetterDays
Posted on December 7, 2010 at 5:53pm“The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots & tyrants”. Jefferson
Report Post »trolltrainer
Posted on December 7, 2010 at 6:06pmClive, it is you who does not get it. Do you really believe that the income derived from allowing the tax cuts to lapse on those making 250K or more would be used to pay down the deficit? Really? Why not try and figure out where the money they want to extend unemployment would come from instead? Why would you loot SS which is already in trouble?
The problem is you are swallowing the kool-aide they are serving you. You need to think for yourself, look at what is going on. You want to know something? I think it would be better if the Republicans did NOT compromise at this point and just allowed the tax cuts to expire. It would hurt us all, it would hurt the economy…But it would also critically damage this administration and we could ride it out for two years until we could get a real president and a congress that is willing to do what needs done. I think what is happening now is playing right into their hands. We do not need to make this compromise.
You want to quit borrowing from China? You want to get our economy back into shape? You want to start paying down this ridiculous deficit? And I do not mean “balancing the budget” like Clinton gets so many props for. A balanced budget does not mean debt free or even manageable. I am asking if you want to really start working on getting the deficit to a manageable level? Then you better wake up and start listening to what the folks in here are saying. You better start listening to the tea parties. You better figure out that the only way out is to suck it in and quit the spending…on ALL fronts!
Report Post »Joseph
Posted on December 7, 2010 at 6:16pmtobywil2, the secret service would be on 24/7 alert if Biden made it into office
Report Post »wildjoker5
Posted on December 7, 2010 at 6:20pmHe jabbed in there that the GOP wanted the middle class taxes to go up but not the rich. This guy is such a liar and needs to be shown the door.
Report Post »GeauxAlready
Posted on December 7, 2010 at 6:39pmThis smells to high heaven! We are again just like Wiki leaks being distracted. All this false rage, don’t fall for it. Open your eyes look behind the story………………..
Report Post »Justthefactsmam
Posted on December 7, 2010 at 6:44pmObama just put the truth to the lies the dems say about tax cuts not working…and this is not tax cuts, just extending current tax rates…amazing how congress can look at money they don’t have yet as money “lost”
Report Post »NoBromides
Posted on December 7, 2010 at 8:29pm@******
@clive
The Government (unlike a standard American household) is unwilling to live within its means. When we don’t make enough to cover the bills, we cut out the excess. The Government on the other hand, just raises their “income” by forcefully extracting wealth from tax payers.
Let’s see. What should be cut? How about the Fed bailing out the EU? Lets see…. How about the job killing, wealth stealing Obama Care? Or how about the useless Dept of Education? Thats a biggie. I know! Cut off NPR, PBS and any of their affiliates. Here’s a good one! How about the 5 billion payout (yes that’s with a “B”) to black farmers? Hey, while we are on farms, lets look at the subsidies there. Lets cut the TSA in half and forbid it to be unionized. Speaking of which, can we get our money back from the GM unions and their pension “bailout”? What a scam that was. Oh yeah, a big payoff to “Big special interests” by the dems totaling in the billions.
Just a few quick ideas. I am sure that this group can come up with lots of good ones.
Report Post »->Click For Brain Enema<-
Posted on December 7, 2010 at 8:30pmI agree it isn’t fair. Fair would be everyone paying the same tax rate but that will never happen. What happened to people paying their fair share? Why is it that most people in this country pay nothing and benefit more from taxes more than others?
Report Post »BOUGHT YOUR SILO YET?
Posted on December 7, 2010 at 10:53pmOkay- now I am just pissed off. So, by Obama’s account I am NOT an American if I do not agree with his position? He has said something like this before and it angered me then. But now I am going toe to toe with this stupid %$3-bleep-bleepen @#%&^*!
The first of my family arrived in this country in the early 1700′s. Almost every generation fought for this country- some making the ultimate sacrifice. My husband served in the army during the first Gulf war and then spent a year in Iraq in 05′ attached to an Apache unit for his employer.
I have been proud of my country my entire life (including the adult part). Growing up, my parents couldn’t offer much. What they taught me was patriotism, self reliance, and hope. I grew up crossing my right hand over my heart when reciting the pledge of allegiance and singing our national anthem. I know that our country’s motto is “In God We Trust” and was founded on Judaea/Christian principles. I have a framed copy of the US Constitution hanging in my home. Every word is held very dear. Frankly, Mr.President- I believe that I am more of an American than you. You might consider this the next time you decide to classify Republican’s as non-American’s simply because they disagree with the very policies that you intend to use to fundamentally transform the United States.
Report Post »dawgPound
Posted on December 8, 2010 at 1:05am67% of Americans DO NOT WANT and extension for the top 2%. That’s what he meant. As in, People ( Yes, American people) said, to THIS question that they oppose the tax cut for the wealthy. The mid term elections are not a catch all for any and all future legislation. The fact of the matter is that the president knew that struggling Americans would be further damaged if the GOP were able to hold these cuts for everyone hostage. President Obama acted in a “good for the country” but “bad for me politically” manner. Unlike rep. ***** and the rest of the corporate serving republiCONS.
Report Post »BOUGHT YOUR SILO YET?
Posted on December 8, 2010 at 1:36amDAWGPOUND-
Did you just make that 67% figure up? In the future please post your resource so people can determine its credibility.
Report Post »ron the veteran
Posted on December 8, 2010 at 9:05amim so sick of the whine from the left about not paying enough in taxes. how about we pass a ******* tax so that all you ******** pay twice as much as everybody else. you all want to play the class warfair game then lets play it. and start with all of you paying a lot more in taxes. if we did that the whine from the left would be deafining. its time to finally tell these spoiled children they got to do with out the things they want. my kids and grandkids lives are not for sale so you ******** can get what you want. all you ******** together are not worth one dime of their money.
Report Post »ron the veteran
Posted on December 8, 2010 at 9:16amill tell you what we cut how about that dog of a commiecare bill for one like we needed to spend that kind of money when we dont have it. and cut the dept of ed. the epa the post office. we can get rid of lots of failed crap the fed has failed at. you know its funny how the governmnet who runs a postal servive sends my meds by ups. now if that isnt admitting failure what is it then? it was sent through fed ex until obama took over now its sent by ups who is a union company. and more expencive. it still dont answer why they need to use a private co when they run the biggest mail delivery service ever.
Report Post »JKN
Posted on December 8, 2010 at 11:03amLooks like Barack Obama has abandoned his base… He never had the Right, lost the Independents during the mid-terms, and has now lost much of the Left… Perhaps Obama believes that in order to be reelected in two years, he must act solely on what he thinks is best… After all, he is our “Savior” and must now rise above it ALL… The Messiah in action and as delusional as ever…
Report Post »NoBromides
Posted on December 8, 2010 at 12:10pm@dawgPound
Pretty cool to be a koolaid drinking leftist; If you don’t have the numbers you can just make them up!
In any case, what is it you don’t understand about “tax cuts”? By your definition a “tax cut” is a failure to raise taxes or extort money from an individual or group. What should we expect though from someone who would call less of an increase (still positive though) in a program a cut. I wonder what you leftists would do with a real proposed tax cut. Guess what, the majority of Americans are onto your foolish word games. We don’t buy your new definitions of words or phrases and no matter how you “re-frame“ or ”re-package” the argument, we all know just what it really means.
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