Anonymous Hacks Church Web Sites to Post Dawkins Video & Declare War on Christianity
- Posted on March 5, 2012 at 6:54pm by
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The infamous hacker group Anonymous has a penchant for finding itself in the headlines.
We already mentioned the group’s attack against the American Israel Public Affairs Committee (Anonymous took responsibility for causing the organization’s web site to crash).
Interestingly, in a story that went widely unreported, just days before, hackers behind the super-secretive group declared war on Christianity and proclaimed that religion is a “sickness.” The Christian Post has more about Anonymous and its purported attack on the Christian faith:
Members claiming to be part of the formless Internet hacker group “Anonymous” took down three church websites on March 2, replacing their main pages with a clip from evolutionary biologist and atheist Richard Dawkins and posting a statement that branded all religion as a “sickness.”
“Let us be clear from the start: any kind of religion is a sickness to this world. A sickness that creates hate and intolerance, a sickness that brings people to wage war on their fellow people, a sickness that has come to this world long time ago, when mankind wasn’t educated, a sickness that brought false hope and suppression to those who believed and often even more terror and suppression to those who dared not to believe,” the message by Anonymous begins and continues to accuse religion and Christianity as being a source for most of the wars that have occurred throughout history.

The message also went on to claim that religion, like large governments, works to hold people down, while allowing a select few to gain power. The aforementioned attacks took place on three North Carolina church web site and, according to the Post, the houses of worship seemed to be selected at random. The churches impacted were Bethel Outreach International Church, Charlotte International Church, and Crossfire Ministries.
The group advertised its conquest on Twitter:

In addition to posting the letter, the hackers embedded a 30-minute YouTube video entitled, “Richard Dawkins: An Atheist’s Call to Arms” (a clip that, of course, featured the famed non-believer).
Watch the video, here:
Digital Journal has the long-winded letter that Anonymous posted in its entirety.
(H/T: Christian Post)




















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Comments (301)
vtxphantom
Posted on March 5, 2012 at 7:35pmThis ties into obama plans too well. It is not a coincidence.
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MetalPatriot
Posted on March 5, 2012 at 7:32pmDon’t dismiss these people as teenagers in basements…
If they can hack high security banking institutions they are professionals. It serves them for us to think otherwise.
Soros, the whitehouse, & all the other players are the source, not dumb kids.
Report Post »Jenny Lind
Posted on March 5, 2012 at 7:58pmYou could be right.
Report Post »From Virginia
Posted on March 5, 2012 at 7:30pmAtheism: The belief that nothing happened to nothing that exploded into everything for no apparent reason.
Report Post »PATTY HENRY
Posted on March 5, 2012 at 7:39pmBRING IT ON, pathetic COWARD…. We’ll pray for you. WE have the CREATOR of the ENTIRE UNIVERSE on our “side”. SIlly, pathetic, mixed-up, sad, sicko person that you are. YOU are at the “Party” but you refuse to come in….What a sad way to spend your GIVEN life. BRING IT ON. WE’VE been waiting for you.
Report Post »From Virginia
Posted on March 5, 2012 at 7:47pm@Patty – Obviosly you don’t recognize ridicule when you see it.
Report Post »PATTY HENRY
Posted on March 5, 2012 at 7:51pmI’m addressing the anonymous flakes who have declared war on Christianity. You one of those?
Report Post »TeaPartyForRomney
Posted on March 5, 2012 at 7:54pmThere is a strong connection between OBAMA, OCCUPY, ANNONYMOUS, THE ANTI-ISRAEL MOVEMENT, AND THE UNION. Here is the site reporting on it: http://url2it.com/lrtn
This is very scary and Israel may be next if Obama is re-elected.
Report Post »From Virginia
Posted on March 5, 2012 at 8:07pm@Tea – They’ve gone after Isreal They should watch their backs. Israel won’t take it lying down not matter WHO is behind it.
Report Post »RonmeyPaulBotsrOdd
Posted on March 5, 2012 at 8:20pmThis just proves that World Wide Web truly is just that and these hellions can use your computer to set you up, steal your identity, turn you in and laugh as your prosecuted. Probably actually work for Obama or Satan, but really – what is the difference. If you are connected – anything visited can and will be used against you by a state of non-laws.
Report Post »Walkabout
Posted on March 5, 2012 at 8:24pmWith regards to expressing the bring it on sentiment, i say prepare, educate & make yourself a hard target.
Can they still get you? Yes, but it will take them a little longer & they will leave more tracks.
I don’t care if you are elderly, you can make a difference.
There is the story of a babushka, elderly peasant woman./grandmother who was instrumental in the continuation of a Russian offensive during WWII. A Russian officer who asked her about what she observed about the Germans. She told him that the German left their lights on when crossing a particular ford. So instead of driving with their light off, the Russian column drove with their lights on. The offensive continued courtesy of one old woman’s observations.
Everyone is important.
Go to the library & learn about computer security. Keep your ears open.
Report Post »Captain Crunch
Posted on March 5, 2012 at 8:27pmAtheist….I choose to believe they don’t exist.
The Devil believes in God. That makes these people exceptionally STUPID.
If you think you can declare war without feeling the pain yourself, you are in error.
Report Post »Real pain….not a game.
Anarimus
Posted on March 5, 2012 at 10:00pmActually atheism is nothing more than a lack of belief in the existence of gods due to a lack of hard evidence. Oh and The Big Bang is a misnomer it wasn’t an explosion but an expansion. My guess is Anonymous is taking the anti-theist stance that religion is divisive ,which it is as it unites one group against another group. Atheists like myself are bound by just one thing, a lack of belief in gods. Someone can be an atheist and be socialist (Karl Marx) or one can be atheist but libertarian (Ayn Rand) however anti-theism is getting a bit out of hand.
Report Post »jwt
Posted on March 5, 2012 at 10:09pmGod can’t take care of his own?
Report Post »do_it_all_again
Posted on March 6, 2012 at 12:12amsounds like a bunch of crybaby muslims, and if not, why havent they spruced up a muslim website lately? when they do, maybe they will gain some relevance
Report Post »EvrAlrt
Posted on March 6, 2012 at 12:16amHey Anonymous, WHO’s Ur Daddy?
It’s highly doubtful that you do what u do just for the mere unadulterated Fun of it….so, WHO Pays Ur Bills Sweetheart(s)?…………..so that you may sit with your computer all day & night hacking gleefully into other folk’s computers?….OR….. Are you one of the 99 weekers et al, enjoying unemployment benefits….OR……Have you never actually held a job before? lol
You must have A Lot of free-time on your hands, if you are able to dedicate such time & effort to your anonymous hacking….Busy, Busy, Busy!!
Hey?…..Is there a brave, unselfish, uncorruptable, dedicated Journalist (in the Real meaning of the term) looking in here, who would take-on the task of finding out, “Who Pays Anonymous for its Hacking efforts: Who IS Anonymous, For Real?”
Report Post »Seriously!!
Anyone?
Bad_Ashe
Posted on March 6, 2012 at 1:17amSo let me get this straight…“Anonymous” spent their time hacking a few church websites to…post a video of Richard Dawkins?! Really? Dawkins? The paper tiger of godlessness? Darwin’s Chihuahua? The fact that “Anonymous” somehow finds Dawkins convincing is indicative of the fact that they are a collection of idiots.
Not to mention their comment about religion and Christianity being the source for most of the wars throughout history. This is demonstrably false and once again simply a sign of their ideological stupidity. If “Anonymous” wants to impress someone, howzabout moving past moronic Internet atheist talking points and cracking open a book sometime.
Report Post »dutchy
Posted on March 6, 2012 at 3:07amAnonymous can go back into the gutter where they came from! I would’nt want to be in their shoes on judgement day when they face the lord God. Nobody can declare war against God and Israel and get away with it.
Report Post »DonaldH
Posted on March 6, 2012 at 4:46amPatty, you bring the Almighty with you and I’ll bring Colt Arms with me and together we will thwart their plans to destroy all that is good and blessed.
Report Post »On a side note, sorta interesting that this “stand-up commic bit” comes to us from Monterey, Calf. where these dolts meet once a year to yuk it up. What else does Monterey Calf. bring us? Not only is it considered the birthplace of the World Wide Web it is also still considered to be the HUB of the World Wide Web!!!
virgie morgan
Posted on March 6, 2012 at 7:14amI think Anonymous is actually a group created by the government as a means of playing good cop/bad cop on the American people. They can’t get true Americans to go along with the destruction of government, capitalism, etc, so they use Anonymous to pretend to be for the people while making it appear as though they are against government. The end goal of Anonymous and this administration and occupy wall street are the same…but with Anonymous they will accomplish that goal with the American people cheering them on in belief that they are taking on the goverment “for the people”. Many people are decieved. They are able to take down all these web sites because they are the government and can do so easily while making it appear that the internet must be controlled and protected from “Anonymous”..for the security of all Americans, of course. Anonymous is a tool of this administration.
Report Post »zorro
Posted on March 6, 2012 at 9:12amThese guys are just a bunch of idiots still living at home. This is how they wage war….they hack websites. They’re useless and their tactics are juvenile and accomplish nothing. They’re completely irrelevant.
Report Post »JohnnyMidknight
Posted on March 6, 2012 at 10:13am@ Anarimus
The funniest thing is that Atheists (not all but most) are playing the same games that they blame religion for. Most Atheists I have met state that religion is responsible for most wars in history. What they fail to see is that their attack on the religious is in actuality the same thing. They demand they are right compared to another point of view. How is this any different than the Muslim faith under Mohammad when he believed in spreading Islam by the end of a sword?
However, the misunderstanding of society brings about the false conception that Religion is the cause of the wars. Religion is the excuse given to get a populace to go to war, the reason for the war is power (IE Greed of money, land, and resources). Even the Atheists are subject to the same issues with their religion. I stated that correct, Atheism is a religion as you believe no God exists – remember the absence of evidence is not evidence of absence. The problem is that people are placing physical modifiers (IE nouns) to a something which is a verb. God is not a man in the sky, that is a human description of something they can only begin to understand. More frankly, that is a extremely Christian thing. Rabbis often state that Hasheem (what Christians call Lord) is a facet of the force that binds the creation of all things. It is, plan and simply, the energy behind all things which allows all things to exist in a physical representation.
Report Post »Mabans
Posted on March 6, 2012 at 12:29pmWhat does the big bang theory have to do with the lack of believing in a god?
Atheism is disbelief in the existence of a supreme being or beings. The Big Bang theory is the prevailing cosmological model that explains the early development of the Universe. I know plenty of Christians who believe that God initiated the big bang. And know atheists that don’t buy the Big Bang Theory. They are NOT mutually exclusive you silly goose.. Nice try but please understand the words you speak otherwise you just look foolish.
I don‘t agree with this attack as if they can actually do something thousands of reason of sense and reason haven’t been able to do. I doubt a bunch of DDOS attacks will have any impact on the idea of religious faith. Anonymous really has some braggadocio issue. Let the adults handle this one..
Report Post »Solo Inc
Posted on March 6, 2012 at 12:57pmReligion: the belief the fairy tooth faerie made you in 7 days.
Report Post »D.E.Kesler
Posted on March 6, 2012 at 1:23pmYou have created a straw man. It is entirely possible for one to be an atheist and reject the reality of an expanding universe. Likewise, one could be an atheist and reject the reality of biological evolution. This is because an atheist is simply one who is unwillingness to uncritically accept the unsupported claims of theists.
You don’t buy it? Well, consider the following. There were atheists like Epicurus long before Charles Darwin put forth his theory of evolution. Likewise, there were atheists like Percy Bysshe Shelly long before Edwin Hubble observed that the universe was expanding.
When it is all said and done, atheists are atheists because theists have failed to provide sufficient evidence to support their positive claims.
Regardless, not all atheists support Anonymous. I believe that each and every person on planet earth should be free to worship or not worship as their conscience dictates. Provided, of course, such worship does not unduly infringe upon the free will of other individuals.
Report Post »Katshrnk
Posted on March 6, 2012 at 2:39pmExcellent
Report Post »Katshrnk
Posted on March 6, 2012 at 2:43pmYou appear to be Jewish, Patty, and I want to say I’m with you!
Report Post »Illinois
Posted on March 6, 2012 at 2:59pmChristianity: the belief that a giant space wizard created the first man out of dirt and his wife from the dirt mans rib.
Report Post »Bad_Ashe
Posted on March 6, 2012 at 2:59pm@D.E.KESLER
Correction. Many atheists describe as such because they find the evidence for theism unconvincing, but this is not because theists haven’t provided sufficient evidence for reasonable, rational belief. Belief in God is both reasonable and rational, and evidentially and philosophically well-supported.
Occasionally this is an honest rejection from the atheist, but it is just as often caused by an evidentiary double-standard, a rejection of the concept of objective authority, morality, etc., or simply because they hate (or at least hate the idea of) the mean ol’ sky-daddy.
Cheers!
Report Post »Bad_Ashe
Posted on March 6, 2012 at 3:27pm@MABANS – I would add to this that there is a strong sentiment among many atheists to move away from the Big Bang singularity simply because of its positive theological repercussions. The ascension of Big Bang cosmological models make for some of the more compelling pieces of theistic evidence.
As for your statement that thousands of years of sense and reason haven’t been able to ward off religious belief, stop making “just so” statements as if they reflect a dominant perspective. Belief in God is reasonable, rational, and quite sensible. Please stop making biased comment like this with nor basis in reality, otherwise you may find yourself looking pretty foolish as well.
Report Post »Jgallstar1
Posted on March 6, 2012 at 3:34pmThat’s not what Atheism is, but by your logic: “Christianity: The belief that something came from nothing and **** out life from nothing.” Yeah… that makes sense.
Report Post »Ultra-ChronicMonstah
Posted on March 6, 2012 at 4:44pmNo. That’s nihilism. If you‘re going to criticise something don’t be an idiot about it.
Report Post »reasonableman2012
Posted on March 6, 2012 at 6:15pmI hope you’re joking, otherwise the point that atheists are, generally speaking, more intelligent and more educated than Theists will only be strengthened. To think that atheists believe that drabble is simply ludicrous. Science, reason, and FACTS are on our side. You are, simply put, as misled as the believers of Zeus or Odin. Why don’t you believe in those gods? Once you understand why you don’t (lack of evidence, ridiculousness of the entire belief system) you just might understand how sad it is to watch Americans deny facts and truth, instead opting for an outdated cult that works against education and progress and instead wishes to drive us back into the dark ages. If you hate atheists so much, perhaps you should stop using things we create. So get off your computer. If you hate science so much (with American christians denial of evolution etc.) then feel free to stop using other scientific discoveries in your everyday life. Educate yourself, it is the only way to free yourself from the chains of ignorance. Oh, and to call atheism a religion is like saying off is a tv channel. I know this logic must be lost on you, but alas, I will try nonetheless. Atheism is the denial of belief in all gods. DENIAL OF BELIEF. So no belief. Only factual evidence and scientific discovery please.
Report Post »AthiestAnonymous
Posted on March 6, 2012 at 6:34pmhttp://i.imgur.com/0Yi31.png
Report Post »Your_Mother
Posted on March 6, 2012 at 7:29pmChristianity :
Report Post »The belief that a cosmic Jewish Zombie who was his own father can make you live forever if you symbolically eat his flesh and telepathically tell him you accept him as your master, so he can remove an evil force from your soul that is present in humanity because a rib-woman was convinced by a talking snake to eat from a magical tree.
KehBuehGeh
Posted on March 6, 2012 at 8:16pmLol at silly Christians who think they know logic. The original trolls. Good job posting Christian hatred. Funny how even the Christian religion was plagiarized. AND AS ATHEISTS IT IS NOT UP TO US TO PROVE THAT YOUR DAMN GOD DOES NOT EXIST. AS WE DO NOT BELIEVE IN HIM WE DON’T HAVE TOO. PROVE HE EXISTS. DO IT.
Report Post »Intelligent_Atheist
Posted on March 6, 2012 at 9:15pmCreationism: The belief that an all powerful being got bored one day and decided to make a universe billions of light years big, added billions of planets and then decided on 1 tiny little planet where he would make make a man out of dirt and then a woman from his rib and tell them they could be happy as long as they never learned anything.
Your story is longer but mine is more believable.
Report Post »oliverclark
Posted on March 6, 2012 at 11:37pmExcept… theists believe that god wasn’t created. If the idea that the universe created itself is so atrocious and illogical to you, why do you suddenly change your logic when applying it to god; why don’t you also find the claim that god was not created and is eternal ridiculous too?
Report Post »You should be ashamed of yourself for having such fallacious logic.
JoeCitizen99
Posted on March 6, 2012 at 11:44pmChristianity: The belief that a cosmic Jewish Zombie who was his own father can make you live forever if you symbolically eat his flesh and telepathically tell him you accept him as your master, so he can remove an evil force from your soul that is present in humanity because a rib-woman was convinced by a talking snake to eat from a magical tree.
Ya, sounds legit.
Report Post »lainejmoore
Posted on March 7, 2012 at 12:30amChristianity: The belief that nothing happened to nothing that exploded into God who created everything for no apparent reason.
Report Post »TriforcePlayer
Posted on March 5, 2012 at 7:29pmDo your worst.
Report Post »ginge
Posted on March 5, 2012 at 8:30pmThe atheist in his puffed up hubris reminds me of Lucifer who was the smartest and prettiest of God’s angels.It was his pride and sin of thinking he was equal to God that drove him to take other like minded angels here where fights to play god here.I’ll stick to the HOLY TRINITY.
Report Post »Onowicit
Posted on March 5, 2012 at 9:01pmRight on Brother. I have no more cheeks to turn. I’m with you and I say BRING IT!
Report Post »Brooke Lorren
Posted on March 5, 2012 at 10:58pmRead Matthew 5:11. Whenever someone persecutes a Christian, they are blessed. Now their blessings may be eternal blessings in Heaven, but eternity is what really matters anyway.
They can try to hurt you, but they’re only sending eternal blessings your way. They can put a gun to your head and pull the trigger, but they can’t kill a Christian, they can only change their address.
Either way, Christians win.
Report Post »Solo Inc
Posted on March 6, 2012 at 12:59pmwow a bunch of morons on here…
Report Post »Illinois
Posted on March 6, 2012 at 3:06pmAfter reading the comments on this page I am convinced that Christianity really is just a mild for of mental retardation.
Report Post »possom
Posted on March 5, 2012 at 7:29pmThat’s it, go after the religion‘s who won’t go after you. Here‘s a better idea go after the muslim’s and they‘ll yell Jihad and find you and cut off your head wouldn’t that be neet? Now put down your gov check and get to it!
Report Post »TheRev1776
Posted on March 6, 2012 at 12:27pmIt is a great idea. I never see the atheist attack Islam. Is it due to the fact that they might bomb entire cities for the insulting words ? Even South Park creators backed off out of fear of retaliation. I will lend an ear to non-believers the minute they publicly decry the violent nature of Islam. And as for Anonymous, why aren’t going after Islam since they still practice the old violent ways.
Report Post »WereTiggy
Posted on March 6, 2012 at 2:39pmAnonymous is largely US-focused.
Christianity is more relevant in the US. (and, they’re also more of a detriment in the US).
See? Simple answers are easy.
Report Post »Pontiac
Posted on March 7, 2012 at 4:35pm[I never see the atheist attack Islam]
This kind of willful ignorance isn’t surprising from a theist…
http://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=atheist+islam
Report Post »cosmic dogma
Posted on March 5, 2012 at 7:26pmWow, really? Christianity ? What about the , stoning, woman hating, women slave owning, child rapist, murderers religion:islam. Would think it would be the first on the list to eradicate, unless there is some bias…maybe…
Report Post »MammalOne
Posted on March 5, 2012 at 8:35pmThey said they’re going after ALL religions. Not just yours. (Don’t forget the history of violence and sexual abuse in the christian faith, though – religious extremism is not just a modern day or islamic phenomenon)
Report Post »From Virginia
Posted on March 5, 2012 at 8:45pm@Mammalone – Oh I am sooooo BORED by this, “remember what your people did 600 years ago,” cr@p. Most of the violence can be tied directly to islams invasion of Christemdom and I don’t give a cr@p what individual MEN did that displeases you so much. Unlike you people, Christians actually have the capability to forgive those who have sinned.
Like so many of your people, my suggestion to you is to move on………
Report Post »stooge4themall
Posted on March 5, 2012 at 8:56pmI suppose freedom of religion means nothing . What happens when freedom of speech impeads upon my freedom of religion … OOOO thats right i have my bibles and guns
Report Post »MammalOne
Posted on March 5, 2012 at 9:03pmVirgina
I’m not blaming anyone for anything. I’m just saying Christians are infamous for conveniently forgetting the violence that has been carried out in the name of Jesus while condemning islam for the same thing. It’s a double standard thing, not an attack on anyone alive today.
Report Post »From Virginia
Posted on March 5, 2012 at 9:28pm@Mammalone – Except there is nothing in the bible to support killing those that don’t embrace Christianity while the koran is specific in this regard.
One thing to note is that Christians are allowed to defend themselves. We don’t have to lie down and die if we are attacked – which was why Christians defended themselves on their homeland when islam attacked and then took it to their lands. As a result we were left alone for some odd 600 years or so.
Had we approached this current war with islam (and that’s what it is – a world wide war with islam with islam killing Christians, Jews, Hindus, Buddhists, atheists and every other sect out there. They are on every continent killing) as our ancestors did (kill them and destroy their stuff – and then let THEM rebuild and forget about being “friends”) we wouldn’t have the current problem with islam today.
Report Post »Vendetta
Posted on March 5, 2012 at 11:08pmlol it’s funny because when you mentioned ” stoning, woman hating, women slave owning, murderers religion..” I thought you were talking about the bible, all that stuff is in it and encouraged HA!
Report Post »TheSoundOf Truth
Posted on March 6, 2012 at 1:39pmThey didn’t go after islam. Did they hack CAIR’s site?
Nope. They go after Christians because Christians don’t fight back. Period.
These are people who are still pzzed off about stuff that happened in 1350AD. Get over it folks. The inquisition is over. Now all these Christians do is go to church and start charities. Why is that so bad?
I don’t identify myself as a Christian, but seriously…they are the furthest thing from evil on this planet. It’s the Islamic communities in Africa that are mutilating young girls and cutting people up-and they are targeting non-muslims and christians first. To say that this is not happening is a lie, and the people behind this hack are losers who want their Warholian 15 mins of fame…but sicne we don’t know who they are it defeats the purpose.
I want to see them hack CAIR’s site. But I think they left their snarklies in a little bag in their moms’ basement.
Report Post »Your_Mother
Posted on March 6, 2012 at 7:37pmChristianity is also a “stoning, woman hating, women slave owning, child rapist, murderers religion.” Go read the bible.
Report Post »ZomBrad
Posted on March 5, 2012 at 7:23pmIn the words of Timon from “The Lion King”………it starts.
I called this when they were protesting scientology >.>
Report Post »stoptheliesbho
Posted on March 5, 2012 at 7:22pmdoesn’t anyone else believe that “Anonymous” is actually led by the government? they want those that subscribe to the ridiculous OWS movement to buy into their anarchist, destructive “acts of online terrorism” and support it. They’ve hacked everything from church websites to Israel-supportive wesbites to the DOJ (COVER-UP!!!!!). these guys are government run in order to confuse the ‘average’ American. hope us Blazers are not THAT.
Report Post »RepubliCorp
Posted on March 5, 2012 at 7:52pmI was thinking the same….. the government must know who they are and fakes being them to attack sites…….. My guess it is China or Russia
Report Post »tzion
Posted on March 5, 2012 at 7:54pmInteresting theory. Reminds me of Star Wars and Hitler’s burning of the Reichstag. It certainly wouldn’t be unheard of.
Report Post »From Virginia
Posted on March 5, 2012 at 8:09pm@TZion – Wouldn’t surprize me. So far, Obama has been pretty much been following Hitler’s handbook.
Report Post »WereTiggy
Posted on March 6, 2012 at 2:47pmYou… can’t.. SERIOUSLY believe that.. can you? Am I underestimating your naivete?
No-one is bankrolling the hackers. Hackers hack for their own motives. In this case, Anti-theism.
Report Post »Your_Mother
Posted on March 6, 2012 at 7:47pmYou are simply stupid.
Report Post »Anonymous are a bunch of people that founded their group on an image-board called 4chan.
Most of them are Americans, but they are also german, french, arab, australian, people from all over the world.
They fought for your freedom of speech, for your rights.
They are not tool of the governement, they are opposed to the governement.Some even were sent to jail.
You can’t see how much you made me rage when I read your **** here.
TRONINTHEMORNING
Posted on March 5, 2012 at 7:21pmYou know, if you are in Christ; all of this matters very little. These are little people. Probably a mix of bright young know-it-alls and a few seasoned haters of America and well, the Bible and God. So they play their game; hoping to spread fear and trembling. Sure, they will cause chaos in some manner but the end result of these folks is not pretty. You reap what ya sew, baby. I pray that some of these folks will see the truth in the end.
Report Post »kentuckypatriot
Posted on March 5, 2012 at 7:57pmYou are right. If you have faith, who cares about them? I hold my faith in God, that’s all I see, nothing else. Anoymous doesn’t scare me one bit. Bring it
Report Post »TRONINTHEMORNING
Posted on March 5, 2012 at 8:09pmRight on, KENTUCKY!! God bless you and your fam!
Report Post »Captain Crunch
Posted on March 5, 2012 at 9:08pmRomans 1:18. For the wrath of God is revealed from heaven against all ungodliness and unrighteousness of men, who suppress the truth in unrighteousness…
They can’t begin to comprehend how much trouble they are in.
Report Post »Tandem2011
Posted on March 5, 2012 at 7:20pmPeople who create sedition while hiding from the law are cowards. They’re no better than arsonists.
Report Post »Solo Inc
Posted on March 6, 2012 at 1:01pmyou are right, what should happen is we should take to the courts, and start removing religion piece by piece, thank you.. saved me the effort…
Report Post »jfriedri
Posted on March 5, 2012 at 7:17pmWould not be surprised in the least if its funded by George Soros either
Report Post »grassroots
Posted on March 5, 2012 at 8:30pmYou are right on. Noone else could have said it better. FYI I believe In God and may God forgive
Report Post »all that turn against him. And if they don‘t don’t change their ways I say Burn Baby Burn in Hell.
George Soros can’t buy his way out of hell!
KyleD
Posted on March 5, 2012 at 7:17pmThe only hate and intolerance here I’m seeing is from Anonymous. It‘s such a shame they can’t see irony.
Report Post »From Virginia
Posted on March 5, 2012 at 7:37pmThe entire left is lousy with the irony of their hate and intolerance. I’ve noticed over the years that everything – and I mean EVERYTHING – they accuse the right with they themselves are guilty of.
Report Post »pwatkins
Posted on March 5, 2012 at 7:17pmCharlotte, NC= DNC 2012…..May be a hint to where this anonymous group is coming from. Christianity is not a religion, but the Faith in Jesus Christ our Lord and no athiest can touch or destroy a personal Faith, so athiest give it your best , but the last laugh will be on your own soul.
Report Post »Tandem2011
Posted on March 5, 2012 at 7:16pmDawkins becomes the kind of bigoted fanatic he condemns when he goes after religions the way he has.
Report Post »He comes across as just angry. What a shame. The late agnostic writer Christopher Hitchens had far more class than Dawkins because he kept his cool and had a sense of humor.
Balpit
Posted on March 6, 2012 at 1:26pmThey prove it’s not religion which divides people.
Report Post »copper
Posted on March 5, 2012 at 7:12pmMarxists, Anarchists, Communists, Unionists, Islamists, Useful Idiots, all who hate Jews and Christians…..
IN OTHER WORDS…Obama’s Army of Goons
Report Post »TheFederalist
Posted on March 5, 2012 at 7:09pmAnonymous;
Report Post »You are the ones that are causing sickness! You are the ones who are sick!
If you are declaring war on Christianity, you are declaring war on God. You will then die a horrible death in the pillar of fire. Go on, keep mocking God, it`s your own stupidity that will damn you!
chameleonx
Posted on March 5, 2012 at 7:11pmWhy would any worship a person who will kill someone in “pillar of fire”? A god like that deserves no worship from any sane person.
Report Post »Gatorslide
Posted on March 5, 2012 at 7:17pmChamelonx, are you willing to bet eternity on it?
Report Post »From Virginia
Posted on March 5, 2012 at 7:20pm@Chameleonx – God is not a “person.” He is God – the Creator of the Heavens and Earth and all the creatures (including man) therein. Just because you don‘t understand His rules doesn’t make you more noble or suprerior. You just don’t know what you are talking about. Sodom and Gomorrah had it coming (the people were BEYOND evil) and were warned. If only ONE person had repented it would have saved both cities.
Report Post »chameleonx
Posted on March 5, 2012 at 7:24pmI would have to respectfully disagree. To me there is no evidence supporting that the Abrahamic God is a real figure. Did you know that early Jews were most likely polytheist and a lot of the stories from the bible are influenced from other myths? All you have to do is look on the internet for the information.
Report Post »From Virginia
Posted on March 5, 2012 at 7:41pmThey found Sodom and Gomorrah (covered in a thick sheet of glass like they’d been nuked). They found Jericho. They found chariots and armour at the bottom of the Red Sea. All these things were called fables. So far, the Old Testament is batting a thousand in archeology.
Report Post »chameleonx
Posted on March 5, 2012 at 7:53pmReally? Can you source your sources. Because much evidence to support any story has been forgery. I wouldn’t doubt they have found scarce evidence but nothing to support any part of the bible. What about other sites with so much information that relates to other religions and mythologies throughout the world. Would that prove Hinduism is true or Islam is true because of kabba in Mecca is said to be built by Abraham and Ismail.
Report Post »Infidel49
Posted on March 5, 2012 at 8:11pmBrush these puny little insects off. They don’t have to believe. I DON”T CARE! I can still go to Church and worship God. When the day comes they try to stop me, that will be the day I will not turn the other cheek.
Report Post »From Virginia
Posted on March 5, 2012 at 8:19pm@Chamaleonx – I can’t post links, but you can google all of it. Mostly the scientific research is about trying to explain what happened (like an asteroid destroyed the cities, or there are gas desposits in the soil that ignited) that takes God out of the evidence.
As to other religions and their cities, there are none that have archeological evidence to support their myths. The stories of the bible were all myths – until they found the evidence. Now they concentrate on explaining it without God. Like a reason why Jericho’s walls were collapsed. Why are there chariots at the bottom of the Red Sea. Why is Sodom and Gamorrah covered in glass.
Report Post »chameleonx
Posted on March 5, 2012 at 8:39pmSure I’ll go through the information you posted and look more in-depth. What can hurt? But as I mentioned there is still no evidence in my view that will make any religion true.
Report Post »tzion
Posted on March 5, 2012 at 9:17pm@From Virginia
Report Post »Technically the Red Sea isn’t where the crossing took place. It’s a common mistranslation. The Hebrew Yom Suf literally translates to Reed Sea. Since there are no reeds in the Red Sea it probably didn’t happen there.
From Virginia
Posted on March 5, 2012 at 9:35pm@TZion – I know – The crossing was actually at a spot that has a natural bridge – underwater of course – but reletively shallow considering the depths on either side. Can’t remember the name (on modern maps) – but that’s were the artifacts were found and makes sense with the location of the “Reed Sea” from scripture.
Report Post »From Virginia
Posted on March 5, 2012 at 7:08pmIndividuals seeking power over others has caused every war in history. Atheists for decades have tried to find scriptures in the new testament to support their vile accusation that Christians go to war over scriptures. They have been unsuccessfull.
Now, if you want a real high body count, just go to the atheists. Communism (godlessness) has a much higher body count in just a few short decades in the 20th century. The attack on Christianity is no accident. They need us dead to control the sheep in their new utopia of totalitarianism. Slaves of the state. People who have no god (well, they serve the devil – they just think they are free thinkers) can justify any atrocity. Look how few decades they went from killing the unborn to justifying killing the newborn. They are already trying to talk the old into death for the good of the community.
Report Post »JackColquitt
Posted on March 6, 2012 at 4:59amYou realize that you managed to completely contradict both of the points you were trying to make, right? Put on your thinking cap and consider these two statements (that you made):
- “Individuals seeking power over others has caused every war in history.”
- “Now, if you want a real high body count, just go to the atheists.”
You (a) claim that every war in history is a direct result of man’s quest for power, rather than accepting that some wars were actually brought about by religion, and then go on to (b) blame a religious (or lack thereof) belief for a “real high body count.” I assume you don’t understand much about logic, so I’ll spell this out for you. Your point A nullifies your point B, your point B nullifies your point A. You’ve effectively managed to say nothing while appearing quite the fool.
Report Post »Implying_Implications
Posted on March 6, 2012 at 1:48pm9/10
I almost raged.
You must be trolling sir, you can‘t seriously believe that nonsense you’re posting.
Report Post »>To much Fox News I think.
dwromans58
Posted on March 5, 2012 at 7:05pmCuriously they state that religion is “A sickness that creates hate and intolerance, a sickness that brings people to wage war on their fellow people“ then posts a video that is entitled ”An Atheists Call to Arms”. Hypocites? I think so. Just a bunch of nerds on a power trip. What an awakening they will have some day. I pity them.
Report Post »dnpdover
Posted on March 5, 2012 at 7:21pmAmazing how they (hate and are intolerant) do exactly what they think religion does. Some people just aren’t that bright. Grow up.
Report Post »Lord_Frostwind
Posted on March 5, 2012 at 10:49pmThey’re puppets too blinded by their own arrogance to see their strings, nothing more. They call slavery freedom, murder choice, and bigotry tolerance.
Report Post »momprayn
Posted on March 5, 2012 at 7:04pmRichard Dawkins says he cannot be sure God does not exist…
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/religion/9102740/Richard-Dawkins-I-cant-be-sure-God-does-not-exist.html
Report Post »MrButcher
Posted on March 5, 2012 at 8:12pmNo news there.
That was all in his book “The God Delusion.”
Report Post »TH30PH1LUS
Posted on March 5, 2012 at 7:03pmANONYMOUS,
Was this really you? I thought your “group” claimed to be intelligent? Please read http://www.amazon.com/Who-Really-Cares-Compasionate-Conservatism/dp/0465008216 and you will discover that conservative Christians are the most loving and generous group of people on the planet. It’s a statistical fact.
I find it enlightening that no Muslim or Hindu or Buddhist websites were listed in this attack. Once again, the faith which has built the most hospitals, orphanages, and made the most advancements in science and literature becomes the whipping boy for the anti-Jesus nutjobs.
Epic Fail for Anonymous.
p.s. Darwinism is a religion.
Report Post »chameleonx
Posted on March 5, 2012 at 7:07pmDarwinism is not a religion; neither is atheism. If you ever viewed the video it states all religion is a sickness. Christianity is not the only religion singled out because the websites were hacked.
Report Post »From Virginia
Posted on March 5, 2012 at 7:15pm@Chameleonx – According to the definition in any dictionary AND the Supreme Court (let’s keep it all nice a legal) …..it is.
Report Post »Hermano
Posted on March 5, 2012 at 7:19pmChameleonx – Atheism and naturalism are religions; the definition – a set of beliefs concerning the cause, nature, and purpose of the universe – requires that since neither group can prove their position it is by definition a religion. The atheist cannot prove the non-existence of God and the naturalist cannot prove that life came from non-life.
Report Post »chameleonx
Posted on March 5, 2012 at 7:21pmWhat is the definition form the Supreme Court? A belief is a belief. But a religion like the Abrahamic religions and Indian religions are much, much different from someone who is secular.
Report Post »chameleonx
Posted on March 5, 2012 at 7:26pmI would have to respectfully disagree. Everyone is entitled to their own opinion. Yes, atheism is a belief; however religion is much different. With religion you have a set of traditions, laws, etc. Look at Christianity and Islam for example. With people who identify as atheist or secular are just themselves. Science is not a religion or a guessing game. Science uses evidence and logic to find the most common answer.
Report Post »From Virginia
Posted on March 5, 2012 at 7:44pmLOL! Science starts with a belief – a theory of how things works. Then they set about trying to prove their theory. Mostly they fail and are just left with their belief – their theory. They KNOW it works (like gravity) but they don’t know how to recreate it.
Report Post »chameleonx
Posted on March 5, 2012 at 7:55pmScience dose not work that way. The way you say it science is just a random guessing game. Here is a good snippet from Rational wiki
“The scientific method is an epistemological system for deriving and developing knowledge. It is considered the best method for making useful and practical additions to human knowledge, and has resulted in the technological leaps made since it developed in the western world. At the core of the method is the idea that the truth value of a hypothesis, theory, or concept is best determined by its ability to make falsifiable predictions that can be tested against an empirical reality. This is in contrast with other schools of thought that do not suppose that truth can be tested, and can merely be asserted or derived with sufficient “thought” or other ways of knowing…”
Report Post »http://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Scientific_method
Therightsofbilly
Posted on March 5, 2012 at 7:59pmHey MOD,
Did you just evolve in to a Chameleon?
Report Post »Hermano
Posted on March 5, 2012 at 8:14pmFrom chameleonx – “Science is not a religion or a guessing game. Science uses evidence and logic to find the most common answer.”
Naturalism starts with assumptions and builds from there. However, the Darwinistic “scientists” have the same problem as creationists: they cannot go back to the beginning, even in experiments, to prove their theory. Your error is a common one, chameleonx; you believe that Darwinism is a science, but the problem is in proving the assumptions are true. And for naturalists, it must be that life evolved from non-life. Not even the esteemed Darwinist Richard Dawkins has been able to prove that.
Report Post »chameleonx
Posted on March 5, 2012 at 8:23pmI would have to respectfully disagree. Evolution is supported by many in the scientific field. Having looked at all the evidence and saw knowledgeable biologist answer questions from critics I’m safe to say I accept evolution. I do not know how many links I can share at once because last time my comment didn’t show up. I want to share why I accept evolution and hopefully they’ll answer your questions better then I can from the top of my head.
Report Post »chameleonx
Posted on March 5, 2012 at 8:28pmHere are a few links from a Rationalwiki. Users from Rationalwiki answer questions from creationist (Answer evolution campaign, Ask Darwinist, etc.)
Report Post »http://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Question_Evolution!
http://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Ask_Darwinists
http://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Kids!_This_site_is_all_yours
http://rationalwiki.org/wiki/101_evidences_for_a_young_age_of_the_earth_and_the_universe
http://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Evidence_against_a_recent_creation
Evolutionwiki also has many great articles.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Introduction_to_evolution
http://evolution.berkeley.edu/evolibrary/article/evo_01
http://humanorigins.si.edu/
http://www.talkorigins.org/indexcc/list.html
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_transitional_fossils
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Evidence_of_common_descent
Please tell me your opinions of the links I hot linked.
Blue Istari
Posted on March 5, 2012 at 8:36pm@HERMANO
Report Post »You’ve hit the nail on the head. I’ve got an anthropology textbook from college that flat admitted the bulk of evolutionary theory is based on inferences rather than hard evidence. People really need to stop claiming science is on their side on this issue.
From Virginia
Posted on March 5, 2012 at 8:40pmThere is absolutely NO fossil evidence for evolution. Basically, the evidence shows that lifeforms “appeared” for whatever period of time with very little change and then disappeared. Then the next batch showed up for the next period of time with very little change and then disappeared.
One thing science DID find that is indisputable and that is they went back in time and found In “The Beginning.”
Report Post »chameleonx
Posted on March 5, 2012 at 8:46pm@FROM VIRGINIA and Blue: view the links I have sourced. If I’m going to look at your evidence you can see my sources to explain my support. Thank you. I would also like to have a follow up on your opinions. We can continue our debate through email. juanarguelles@yahoo.com. How about it?
Report Post »ANOTHERCONSERVATIVEBRONY
Posted on March 5, 2012 at 8:57pm@Hermano Galileo couldn’t go back to the beginning and see how the planets began orbiting our star. That didn’t make the fact that the planets orbit our star any less true. At the time, he didn’t know how it began. Nowadays, we know how it began. Nowadays, the Big Bang theory is the most widely accepted in the scientific community, but we don’t know why the Big Bang happened. Of course, we may find out in the future, just like how we found out how the planets came to orbit around our star.
Report Post »From Virginia
Posted on March 5, 2012 at 9:17pm@Chameleonx – In Torcaso v. Watkins (1961), Justice Black of the US Supreme Court wrote the following footnote…
“…Among the religions in this country which do not teach what would generally be considered a belief in the existence of God are Buddhism, Taoism, Ethical Culture, Secular Humanism, and others…”
Thus secular humanism (atheism) is a religion.
Report Post »TH30PH1LUS
Posted on March 6, 2012 at 12:57pm@ chameleonx:
after you’re done reading http://www.amazon.com/Who-Really-Cares-Compasionate-Conservatism/dp/0465008216
please read http://www.amazon.com/Forbidden-Archeology-Hidden-History-Human/dp/0892132949 for chapters filled with evidence that shreds the evolutionary model.
Other books for your perusal: http://www.amazon.com/Evidence-Demands-Questions-Challenging-Christians/dp/0785242198/ref=sr_1_1?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1331056483&sr=1-1
http://www.amazon.com/Mere-Christianity-C-S-Lewis/dp/0060652888/ref=sr_1_1?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1331056542&sr=1-1
http://www.amazon.com/Know-Why-Believe-Paul-Little/dp/0830834222/ref=sr_1_2?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1331056571&sr=1-2
http://www.amazon.com/Privileged-Planet-Cosmos-Designed-Discovery/dp/0895260654/ref=sr_1_1?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1331056619&sr=1-1
Report Post »Solo Inc
Posted on March 6, 2012 at 1:04pmthe burden is on you, to prove he exsits, the christians have to prove something… There is no worries until spirits can be physicallly touched, there is no gods.. just figments of many adult’s imaginations..
Report Post »antisocial21
Posted on March 5, 2012 at 7:03pmThese are bunch of immature, teenage *******. They’ll be gone in a matter of time.
Report Post »Crazy Times
Posted on March 5, 2012 at 7:03pmLenin and Stalin rejected religion also… You can see where they want to go with this. Starts with a C ends with a M and has ommunis in between… :-/
“Hang on lady, we going for a ride..” – Short Round
Report Post »chameleonx
Posted on March 5, 2012 at 7:06pmThere are good atheist and there are bad atheist. The same can be said for many Christians, Jews, Agnostics, Muslims, etc. Everyone is in the same boat.
Report Post »SoupSandwich
Posted on March 5, 2012 at 7:18pmWhich sect of Christianity does the indiscriminate bomb vest thingy? Which sect of Jews does the whole bus load of women and children shoot em up routine? Which races are included in Black Liberation Theology again? Why are OWSers raping, beating and thieving from their own? Chameleon you are not. Your spots are quite evident. Perhaps you will get a special burkah with the ball gag in it.
Report Post »RicohCop
Posted on March 5, 2012 at 7:32pmChameleonx
Two religions in the world. Those who believe Jesus is God (Christians) and those who don’t. We are definitely not in the same boat because Jesus guides ours and there is room for you. If you aren’t in this boat in the end of times I am sorry for you.
Report Post »chameleonx
Posted on March 5, 2012 at 7:38pmThere is a history of Christian violence and intolerance to others. Have you ever seen Christians with signs declaring various people of different backgrounds and religions they’ll be going to hell if they do not accept Jesus. What about the KKK or Christians that have killed abortion doctors. What about the Rwanda Massacres? “”Anglican as well as Catholic priests and nuns are suspect of having actively participated in murders…”
http://articles.exchristian.net/2002/10/how-many-people-have-been-killed-by.php
Here is some recent information from Nigeria. “Muslims in Nigeria were praying their magical end of Ramadan prayers when suddenly attacked by Christians carrying guns and machetes. But the conflict between ethnic groups is not one of only religion, it’s more about control of economics and political power…”
Christians are just as bad. If not worse.
Report Post »chameleonx
Posted on March 5, 2012 at 7:46pm@RICOHCOP: I would have to respectfully disagree “I say that a lot”. There are two reasons why I disagree with your comment. Jesus is viewed and/or worshiped by many people of different faiths and religions. Muslims believe in Jesus as a prophet and Messiah but not god. Second in my opinion Jesus was not a real historic figure. Look at both the Islamic and Christian perspective of Jesus. In both religions Jesus was born of the virgin. But how many other Gods, historic leaders have been said to be born of a virgin? Numerous!
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Miraculous_births
Perseus: Son of Danae, who was locked away in a room while a child and impregnated by Zeus in the form of a shower of gold.
Vishnu: His avatars were believed to be virgin births.
The Buddha: His mother, Queen Maha ,was Koliyan princess. The night of her child’s conception, she dreamed of a white elephant with six tusks entering her right side.
The Egyptian God Horus was born of the virgin Isis
This is one of the many reasons why I see Jesus and ultimately religion as man-made. As a deist I do believe in a supreme deity. But I’m critical of religion.
Report Post »From Virginia
Posted on March 5, 2012 at 8:26pmI don’t particularly have anything good to say about religion. “Religion” is man made. Christianity is not. It is a personal relationship with God through Jesus Christ as the intermediator.
Report Post »chameleonx
Posted on March 5, 2012 at 8:33pmI can respect your opinion on Christianity but so is Islam and Judaism. Each religion throughout the world has some form of relationship with their god or gods.
Report Post »Crazy Times
Posted on March 6, 2012 at 3:03amDuh…
and when anonymous puts itself to “declaring war”, on christianity, they did not say they are delaring war against bad christians? did they? – no.
Report Post »RJJinGadsden
Posted on March 6, 2012 at 4:18amCHAMELEONX, Hitler was born into a Catholic family. When he moved to Germany he was never known to attend mass again. He picked up on some Protestant rhetoric but is believed to used statements to mislead the German people who were for the most part a religious people. During my near nine years living there the German people were required to pay a church tax and to choose either Catholicism or Protestantism. Those taxes went to the chosen organisation. There is an incentive to chose though. You can take paid religious holidays for your chosen religion only. When I was there, only the most ardent atheist refused to choose a religion and not being able to take particular holidays off. I cannot say that this is still the law there. It has been quite a while since I was there. Anyway, Hitler used Christianity as a tool when it suited his desire for power and control. John Toland wrote an interesting thousand plus page book on Hitler, but you can check out his religious views at Wikipedia. Since you have already referenced it, I assume that you consider it a decent source of reference. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adolf_Hitler#Religious_views Then go to Religious Views in the box to the left and tag it. It provides a concise but shallow look into his religious views. Just reading this, I certainly would not refer to Hitler as a Christian.
Report Post »IvanK
Posted on March 5, 2012 at 7:02pmEvil comes in many forms and usually with many “good” intentions… At first.
Report Post »WereTiggy
Posted on March 6, 2012 at 3:59pmDespite all the good it does (which I’ll acknowledge), Christianity (and religion in general) is not a good thing.
Report Post »chameleonx
Posted on March 5, 2012 at 7:01pmAs someone who is secular I support Anonymous campaign against Christianity. In my opinion religion is a cancer to humanity. If we rediscovered our humanity we can become leaders to anyone.
Report Post »RightThinking1
Posted on March 5, 2012 at 7:07pmYeah, well you are in good company; Hitler, Stalin, Mao. You are truly a person of insight.
Report Post »SoupSandwich
Posted on March 5, 2012 at 7:10pmAs someone who feels they are special, can you piss off in a special way or do you need anonymous to help you out with that? Ghandi says piss off too but he added wanker.
Report Post »DIVINEPROVIDENCE1776
Posted on March 5, 2012 at 7:12pmYou are the spawn of Satan. Probably a KKK Grand wizard too.
Report Post »From Virginia
Posted on March 5, 2012 at 7:13pmUnlike the good atheists who have 100 million dead under their belt in just a couple of decades. Yeah – Christianity is the real problem here. Can’t have a faith that has uplifted everybodies quality of life and brought enlightenment to the world including most scientific discoveries. Atheism regresses everything. Ask Russia.
Report Post »chameleonx
Posted on March 5, 2012 at 7:15pmDo you know Adolf Hitler was a Christian during his lifetime?
“Hence today I believe that I am acting in accordance with the will of the Almighty Creator: by defending myself against the Jew, I am fighting for the work of the Lord.”
—Mein Kampf
“I may not be a light of the church, a pulpiteer, but deep down I am a pious man, and believe that whoever fights bravely in defense of the natural laws framed by God and never capitulates will never be deserted by the Lawgiver, but will, in the end, receive the blessings of Providence.” – Adolf Hitler, speech July 5, 1944
Yes, Stalin was an atheist and I believe Mao was a Buddhist but secular during his lifetime. But today is today. Christianity is irrelevant to humanity. We need to move on from bronze age mythology and evolve into stronger individuals. I can respect the image of Christianity has done a lot of good and bad in the world; the same with Islam, Hinduism, people with secular beliefs, etc. But we’re only human and we have a nick for choosing the worse for us.
Report Post »chameleonx
Posted on March 5, 2012 at 7:20pmI cannot be a grand wizard in the KKK since I’m on mixed racial heritage and Satan is a fictional character in my opinion. Christians can feel like they’re helping their fellow man but what are they doing to be honest? Everyone gives to charity and has helped an old lady cross the street. But I have not seen many positive stories portraying Christians in wanting to help their fellow man. With Republicans want to stop abortion, teach creationism in science classes, etc. I see nothing of Christianity trying to influence the daily lives of average people. You can defend the Christian view of science all you want but many Creationist are destroying science in order to teach their concept of Christianity. I cannot sit by when people want this country to become a theocracy.
Report Post »From Virginia
Posted on March 5, 2012 at 7:25pmAdolf Hitler was a known pagan who used terms in Christianity to fool the masses. Old argument and flase straw man. Fascism is just another face of totalitarianism and a tool of the left. It never was a “rightwing” ideology.
If you want full on extreme ringwing-ism go to anarchy. If the right wing believes in small government then anarchy carries it to the extreme of NO government. Every man truly is for himself.
Report Post »chameleonx
Posted on March 5, 2012 at 7:29pmI would have to respectfully disagree. But everyone is entitled to their own opinion. Seeing the quotes I used and all I have read on Hitler is most likely he was a Christian. But as I mentioned there are both good and bad Christians. As well atheist, Muslims, etc. Everyone is guilty and innocent. Can you agree with my statement?
Report Post »DIVINEPROVIDENCE1776
Posted on March 5, 2012 at 7:31pm@CHAMELEONX Hitler said anything and used every device to get into power, like Obama. He was an occultist monster.
Report Post »DIVINEPROVIDENCE1776
Posted on March 5, 2012 at 7:38pm@CHAMELEONX I suggest you Google Savitri Devi and Esoteric Hitlerism. Better yet read her books right from her own mouth. The swastika is a hindu symbol and Hitler used it because of his connection to Devi. Hitler was into the occult. Period.
Report Post »chameleonx
Posted on March 5, 2012 at 7:48pmSure I will be interested in learning how Hitler is portrayed. Yes, the swastika is symbol in Hinduism. This reminds me a few years back when I was debating with a Christian about Adolf Hitler’s religious views. We couldn’t make sound judgement he was a Christian or an atheist or whatever. Everyone will believe what they want to believe.
Report Post »ModerationIsBest
Posted on March 5, 2012 at 7:55pmAnonymous is stupid and is performing an illegal act by hacking into their websites. I hope they are found and prosecuted.
Hitler, Mao, Stalin, Lenin, Kim Jong Il all thought of themselves as more than a man. The State was the church. They had insane ideals, none of which was concerned with human life.
That being said, they’re all crazy as are the religious fanatics who kill for their God.
Separating psychopathic murderers into different groups seems like an unnecessary act to me.
Report Post »Blue Istari
Posted on March 5, 2012 at 8:19pm@CHAMELEONX
Report Post »Regarding your claim that Hitler was Christian. How do you attribute his actions to the teachings of Christ? I’m genuinely curious, and would appreciate if you included verses to support your argument.
chameleonx
Posted on March 5, 2012 at 8:31pm@Blue: That determines how you view the teachings of Jesus. Many would see Jesus as a hippie like character. Free love, world peace, etc. But in my view Jesus is a tyrant figure. Now, now, now before you say hold up! How can you say Jesus is a tyrannical figure? I would say look at the bible for my answer.
Report Post »http://www.usbible.com/usbible/creation.htm#jesus
This is just not the Christian faith but all the Abrahamic religions and other religions.
Blue Istari
Posted on March 5, 2012 at 8:48pm@CHAMELEONX
First, thank you for the link, but it still doesn‘t directly answer the question in the context of Hitler’s crimes.
Second, let’s assume for the sake of your argument once more that your chosen interpretation of Jesus (and consequentially God) is correct. Is it rational to discard truth because He doesn’t act the way you would like Him to?
Report Post »LoneStarGigger
Posted on March 5, 2012 at 8:51pmChamelame….stop digging dude, you’re just getting deeper and deeper. You’ve been schooled. It’s time to fold up your tent and head out. You’re in way over your head.
Report Post »chameleonx
Posted on March 5, 2012 at 8:55pmI guess it determines how you define “truth”. I forget to explain about Hitler. My views is that different religions throughout human history have been used by various means. For instance even if you do not agree when the Catholic church back Hitler it had huge influence on Catholics throughout the world. Which would influence their support to Nazi Germany. The over all image of Jesus has done a lot throughout the world. Whether good or bad Christianity has impacted history. Islam too. The same with many religions. in my opinion religion is man made and has a number of different ways it influenced mankind. Does this answer your question?
Report Post »chameleonx
Posted on March 5, 2012 at 8:57pmNo thanks. This not over by a long shot. We’re having fun and I like hearing their opinions. Even if I disagree.
Report Post »Lord_Frostwind
Posted on March 5, 2012 at 10:58pmThe joke that humans think they are better with the Gods is one of the most tragically hilarious in history. Every time men begin to think they are wise, they visit horrors upon each other unlike any religions ever inflicted against each other. The Caesars, the Marxists, Robespierre, and a list of kings and tyrants and all the mountains of bodies they climbed up stand as a witness to the horror men visit upon each other without the sanction God.
God is not the problem, men are, they’re just too arrogant to accept it.
Men seek to possess the throne of God as their own. And God finds it rather funny how his sad little children who can’t even handle the basics of life seek to replace him.
No matter how much they try, mankind will remember God, whether they do so willingly, or begging for his mercy in their suffering, they will remember.
Report Post »Vendetta
Posted on March 5, 2012 at 11:09pm@RIGHTTHINKING1 Hitler was a Christian, you moron…
Report Post »chameleonx
Posted on March 5, 2012 at 11:11pm@LORD_FROSTWIND: What “God” are you talking about? There are literally thousands upon thousands of Gods, Goddess, demigods, etc. Throughout history people have worshiped every kind of deity you can think of in your mind. We will leave aside the argument against the existence of god in the generic sense. A generic god cannot be defined. The word could mean almost anything within the limits of human imagination. Even the currently faddish explanation, Intelligent Design, tells us nothing of the attributes of this so-called form of intelligence. The hope among proponents is that believers will translate the idea to their favorite personal God.
Report Post »Solo Inc
Posted on March 6, 2012 at 1:02pmNo worries these christians barely know how to use a computer, i am surprised they are even able to access this website..
Report Post »Chuck Stein
Posted on March 5, 2012 at 7:00pmWow. Proof positive that “Anonymous” is a bunch of Marxists.
Report Post »Jenny Lind
Posted on March 5, 2012 at 7:09pmYes, and they won’t change my mind as a Christian, or anyone I know, so it’s a waste of their time and energy. Ho Hum, back to something interesting, anony-who?
Report Post »ANOTHERCONSERVATIVEBRONY
Posted on March 5, 2012 at 11:21pmDisbelief in Christianity = Marxism?
Report Post »Chuck Stein
Posted on March 6, 2012 at 2:47am@ Another
Report Post »No. First, note that the attack was not merely a matter of “disbelief” in “Christianity.” It was (purportedly) against “religion” in general — that is a basic Marxist cornerstone. Also, the attack was . . . an attack. Not merely sitting back and “not believing.” Such attacks are Marxist in nature. Finally, the atack on religious institutions has not taken place in a vacuum: the other activities of “Anonymous” are consistent with Marxism.
JackColquitt
Posted on March 6, 2012 at 4:49amConsidering that you can’t distinguish between “no” and “know,” I don‘t think they’re worried about people like you.
Report Post »MythsAreSilly
Posted on March 6, 2012 at 2:33pm*You’re
*That’s
*Downs Syndrome
Not shocking that you couldn’t spell those three simple words while showing your disdain for intelligence. Enjoy being stupid!
Report Post »WereTiggy
Posted on March 6, 2012 at 2:36pm@Bryan from Florida
“You’re”, not “Your”.
What he’s doing is characterizing people with poor spelling and grammar as being less inteligent and thereby less threatening.
Report Post »He’s not wrong.
M1A2_Tanker
Posted on March 6, 2012 at 6:03pmAnyone else feel like these last few aTheist comments come from the same person just different Log in names? Who pays you? Media Matters? HuffPo?
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