Another Reference to the Mayan Prediction of the 2012 Apocalypse Found?
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Mexico acknowledged Thursday that a second reference to the ancient Mayan prediction of a 2012 apocalypse has been found at the Mayan ruins at Comalcalco. (Image source: History Channel)
MEXICO CITY (The Blaze/AP) — A second reference to the ancient Mayan prediction of the apocalypse has been found, Mexico’s archaeology institute acknowledged Thursday, a break from downplaying theories that any such prediction of a 2012 apocalypse exists.
Most experts have long cited only one surviving reference to the 2012 date in Mayan glyphs, a stone tablet from the Tortuguero site in the Gulf coast state of Tabasco.
But the National Institute of Anthropology and History said in a statement that there is in fact another apparent reference to the date at the nearby Comalcalco ruin. The inscription is on the carved or molded face of a brick. Comalcalco is unusual among Mayan temples in that it was constructed of bricks.
Arturo Mendez, a spokesman for the institute, said the fragment of inscription had been discovered years ago and has been subject to thorough study. It is not on display and is being kept in storage at the institute.
The “Comalcalco Brick,” as the second fragment is known, has been discussed by experts in some online forums. Many still doubt that it is a definite reference to Dec. 21, 2012 or Dec. 23, 2012, the dates cited by proponents of the theory as the possible end of the world.
“Some have proposed it as another reference to 2012, but I remain rather unconvinced,” David Stuart, a specialist in Mayan epigraphy at the University of Texas at Austin, said in a message to The Associated Press.
Stuart said the date inscribed on the brick “is a ‘Calendar Round,’ a combination of a day and month position that will repeat every 52 years.”
The brick date does coincide with the end of the 13th Baktun; Baktuns were roughly 394-year periods and 13 was a significant, sacred number for the Mayas. The Mayan Long Count calendar begins in 3114 B.C., and the 13th Baktun ends around Dec. 21, 2012.
But the date on the brick could also correspond to similar dates in the past, Stuart said.
“There‘s no reason it couldn’t be also a date in ancient times, describing some important historical event in the Classic period. In fact, the third glyph on the brick seems to read as the verb huli, “he/she/it arrives.”
“There’s no future tense marking [unlike the Tortuguero phrase], which in my mind points more to the Comalcalco date being more historical that prophetic,” Stuart wrote.
Both inscriptions – the Tortuguero tablet and the Comalcalco brick – were probably carved about 1,300 years ago and both are cryptic in some ways.
The Tortuguero inscription describes something that is supposed to occur in 2012 involving Bolon Yokte, a mysterious Mayan god associated with both war and creation.
However, erosion and a crack in the stone make the end of the passage almost illegible, though some read the last eroded glyphs as perhaps saying, “He will descend from the sky.”
The Comalcalco brick is also odd in that the molded or inscribed faces of the bricks were probably laid facing inward or covered with stucco, suggesting they were not meant to be seen.
The Institute of Anthropology and History has long said rumors of a world-ending or world-changing event in late December 2012 are a Westernized misinterpretation of Mayan calendars.
The institute repeated Thursday that “western messianic thought has twisted the cosmovision of ancient civilizations like the Maya.”
The institute’s experts say the Mayas saw time as a series of cycles that began and ended with regularity, but with nothing apocalyptic at the end of a given cycle.
Given the strength of Internet rumors about impending disaster in 2012, the institute is organizing a special round table of 60 Mayan experts next week at the archaeological site of Palenque, in southern Mexico, to “dispel some of the doubts about the end of one era and the beginning of another, in the Mayan Long Count calendar.”
(h/t Hot Air)
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Comments (256)
dudeofwrath
Posted on November 26, 2011 at 5:14amhttp://www.deepspace4.com/pages/prophecy/greatwarning/greatwarning2.htm
I’m not saying…I’m just saying…
Report Post »wbalzley
Posted on November 26, 2011 at 6:25amWhen a prophet speaketh in the name of the LORD, if the thing follow not, nor come to pass, that is the thing which the LORD hath not spoken, but the prophet hath spoken it presumptuously: thou shalt not be afraid of him.
I’m not saying…I’m just saying…
Report Post »Jomil48
Posted on November 26, 2011 at 6:41amIf your ready what does it matter, the bible says thats our blessed hope, if you are not ready then you should be worried today not next year. No one knows the day or the hour,
Report Post »Tigger House
Posted on November 26, 2011 at 6:54amDUDEOFRATH have you studied Revelations? “But about that day or hour no one knows, not even the angels in heaven, nor the Son,[f] but only the Father.” Matthew 24:36
Report Post »Unix
Posted on November 26, 2011 at 8:02amHe who has a firm belief in Jesus Christ, and abides by his words and deeds, is saved and repents, really has nothing to worry about.
Men of science and reason, are wrong all the time. Humans are imperfect, always will be.
Jesus said not to love worldly things, as our time is short in this realm. Who would not want to believe in him and his words? Who would not want to spend eternity in Heaven, doing their favorite things, walking with God, gaining his eternal knowledge? Walk the heavens, watch worlds form, stars burn out, a fireworks show like you’ve never seen before – the possibilities are endless.
I will take that over burning in hell any day of the week. God is good, is loving, but vengence is His for the disobedient. Everyone gets their sense of right vs wrong from the Bible, whether one realizes it our not.
I know I am ascerbic, and can spew my anger at liberal and conservative, independent, and I will be judged for my harshness and sometime intollerance, so be it, I am only human after all.
God Bless you all.
Report Post »RRFlyer
Posted on November 26, 2011 at 9:23amTIGGER HOUSE there is no “S” in the book of Revelation. Have you read it?
Report Post »Unix
Posted on November 26, 2011 at 11:36amIndeed, there is not such valid title as the Vicar of Christ, thus the Pope is illegitimate! Rome is the protestute on the seven hills from Revelation…
Report Post »Unix
Posted on November 26, 2011 at 11:38ammay i also point out catholics worship dead people – the saints, which is expressly forbidden in the true Bible. did you know the vatican sided with the nazi’s in WWII? an abomination indeed
Report Post »Unix
Posted on November 26, 2011 at 11:39amand lastly, the current pope was a nazi, who is by the way, the last pope in history – there will be no others.
Report Post »GhostOfJefferson
Posted on November 26, 2011 at 11:41am*facepalm*
What next Blaze, Batboy stories?
There is no “prediction of apocalypse” from the Mayans in 2012. The year 2012 is when their calendar cycles from one period to another. Kind of like how our calendars cycle *monthly*. The world goes on for thousands more years after 2012 according to their calendar.
Geesh.
Report Post »sweathog1948
Posted on November 26, 2011 at 11:42amI went to the web site and read quite a bit. There is some i agree with but i would say 99% I disagree with. Sounds like the orgin is Catholic based with a cult thrown in there. I totally disagree with what is written about Mary. She has been given to much power on your web site. God shares his power with no one. Mary mother of Jesus but not mother of GOD. Jesus is God in human flesh second person of the trinity. If Mary was the mother of God then you bring the trinity in .
Report Post »As far as God being the King and Mary the Queen I totally disagree with. Lord of Lords and Kings of Kings does not need a Queen.
The word says there will be many coming in my name saying here is the christ there is the christ do not believe them.
Everything we hear must be judged by the word of God.If it goes against the word of God trash it, throw it away for it is false. The best thing to read is the word of God, the Bible.
The10thAmendment
Posted on November 26, 2011 at 11:43amThe Watchers………………really DudeofDeath?
Just messin’ with you! I rather enjoy reading their stories about the pre-flood accounts of Seth and Cain, and Satana.
Report Post »Twinspeedr
Posted on November 26, 2011 at 11:53am“ancient Mayan prediction of the apocalypse has been found”
It is not necessarily an apocalyptic prediction in the Mayan Calendar for Dec 21, 2012. It is simply the winter solstice for 2012 and all other major and minor cycles that make up the Mayan calendar end on that day, as well. It is referred to by the Maya as something akin to the end of an age. The thing that makes people all freaky about it is that the Mayan calendar ends on Dec12st 2012, you can read all manner of fantasy into that. Although it appears that the year 2012 may be a bumpy one, maybe we are going to make these predictions come true on our own…
Report Post »The10thAmendment
Posted on November 26, 2011 at 11:54amGHOST it’s not they their calendar is coming to the end of a round, it’s coming to the end of the cycle, or procession. They were actually very good with their astronomical calculations and being able to not predict, but calculate periods of calamity because of the forces set in motion by Natures God. Unfortunately they fell into the same trap of believing the counterfeit sun god, rather than the God who set it in motion.
Report Post »Grell
Posted on November 26, 2011 at 12:02pmSomehow I doubt God would apologize for waking someone up to write. I stopped reading after that.
Report Post »Dauh
Posted on November 26, 2011 at 12:58pmWhatever. The Catholic church IS the beast. No revelation from above getting through to that gaggle of pedophiles.
Report Post »CCulotta
Posted on November 26, 2011 at 1:15pmThere is a completely logical and rational explanation for December 21, 2012 and it is not the Apocalypse. It is the day marked for the return of the aliens that instructed man to build pyramids in the first place. Jeez you people are so dense sometimes… I mean really, what else could it be.
Report Post »Eliasim
Posted on November 26, 2011 at 1:45pmSo how come the Mayans didn’t predict the date of their very own demise if they can predict the end of the world?
Report Post »angelonquest2000
Posted on November 26, 2011 at 3:44pmthe bible states we will not know the day or hour but it does say like a fig tree in spring you Will know the season. as these signs are present the coming of the Lord is close. We are in the end of days be prepared!
Report Post »booklvr51
Posted on November 26, 2011 at 3:57pmUmm, Unix, I don’t know where your hatred of Catholicism comes from, but you sure do spew it! I am a lifelong practicing Catholic and I know more about Catholicism than you ever will. I can assure you that we don’t worship dead people nor do we deify Mary. Mary was chosen by God to birthe His Son. She lovingly raised Him and was by His side when He was crucified. He performed His first miracle at her request. He loved her as His mother and gave her to us as our heavenly mother. Catholics ask her and the saints (aka “dead people”) to pray for us. We, of course, pray to God (the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit), but can relate to the humans who are now in heaven and ask them to also pray to God for us. That’s it! Statues are just visual reminders of these humans. We don’t worship these statues any more than you worship pictures of people that you have displayed in your home. Jesus said to Peter, the first Pope, “Thou art Peter, and upon this rock (Peter means ‘rock’) I will build My Church and the gates of hell shall not prevail against it.” (Matthew 16:18) So, the Bible contradicts your claim that the Catholic Church was started by the devil. The human priests and popes who have sinned throughout the past 20 centuries are not the Catholic Church any more than Obama is America. The dogmas of the Catholic Church are fixed and unchangeable. Do yourself a favor and research a topic before you publicly regurgitate venomous comments about it that have no factual
Report Post »The10thAmendment
Posted on November 26, 2011 at 4:28pm@ Dauh
Posted on November 26, 2011 at 12:58pm
Whatever. The Catholic church IS the beast. No revelation from above getting through to that gaggle of pedophiles.
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Really? How do you figure that? Oh, I believe that have fallen into bed with the beast, but they are not the beast, and only a tiny fraction of the whore.
John the Revelator said what again concerning the beast? It was, is no more, but shall be again (find it in Rev. 17:8)? Hate to burst your bubble, but there was no Catholic Church during his day, and certainly not before his time.
The beast is a 10 region (nation) empire. Just take a peek at the Club of Romes regional Kingdom map. (scroll down the pdf to the regional map) http://www.docstoc.com/docs/14773223/The-Ten-Kingdoms The only variation is that Mexico has now been added to Region 1. Thus is the reason why Obama and the liberish/progressotards are pushing to NOT secure the border and to give amnesty (includes newt Gingrich who is a logged member of the Scottish Rights – who are members of the Club of Rome).
The WHORE is quite simply the false religion of replacement theology (also liberation theology), Reform Islam, Reform Judaism, and sell-out Christianity of every sect. ALL being tied together under the false worship doctrine (wormwood) of Environmentalism.
Report Post »Unix
Posted on November 26, 2011 at 5:18pm@booklvr51 – oh really? Then why do you kiss the feet of a statue of a saint when you walk into a Catholic church? Why do you say Mary is third trinity? Nah, you are a sanctimonious catholic who has been brainwashed, I’ve nothing further to add. Oh, and you pray by rote, say three hail Mary’s and your absolved, LOL, get to a real church and see how they pray. In the Bible, it says your prayers should not be mechanical, and yours certainly is just that. And your priests, my goodness, how many of them have been outed as pedophiles now? I’ve lost count…have a nice day. May God Bless you.
Report Post »ModerationIsBest
Posted on November 26, 2011 at 5:30pmLol, this is hilarious.
Christians say, “If you’re ready(belief in Jesus), what does it matter?”
Then you have others quote the Bible with the verse that says, “no one knows the hour(of the ending of the world).”
But if the Mayans KNOW, and are correct, that directly contradicts the Bible which means it’s false.
Report Post »fatjack
Posted on November 26, 2011 at 5:35pmBolon Yokte is not my god. I couldn’t care less when he comes.
Looks like he’s already been to Mexico from the looks of things.
Report Post »The10thAmendment
Posted on November 26, 2011 at 5:50pm@ Unix
Posted on November 26, 2011 at 5:18pm
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I was sitting in the Negev Desert sweating profusely, had a headache trying to adjust my mathematics for a project we were working on for the Israeli’s. All of a sudden I just had the urge to pray, so I dropped what I was doing and prayed. My prayer wasn’t for a solution to my problem. All I could see was people crying, and children running. So I prayed for the Lord to intervene in that. How could that be possible seeing that I’m a Catholic? Been a Catholic for a very long time and I’ve never kissed the feet of a statue, or prayed for a Saint to intervene. Quite frankly I don’t know any of my Church peers who have. Not all Catholics believe Mary to be the third arm of the Trinity, but we do believe her to be Blessed. Nor will you find God fearing Catholics who support pedophile Priests, or call the Priest Father, or the Pope Holy Father.
Just as there are pedophile and corrupt Pastors in Protestantism. That’s why we have to look at the individual, just as Christ Jesus does.
After I prayed in the desert I was in Tel Aviv days later when a mortar was launched. I didn’t see it ( 2 blocks away) but I could see people/children running, and people screaming. No one was hurt in the blast. I don’t believe in coincidence, I believe in providence. But I’m an idol worshiper, right?
Report Post »Greenwood
Posted on November 26, 2011 at 5:58pm@THE10th…………parts of Revelation are about future events
Report Post »The woman riding the beast (Babylon the Great) is the empire of false religion.
The beast is nation or group of nations ( UN )
The10thAmendment
Posted on November 26, 2011 at 6:00pm@ ModerationIsBest
Posted on November 26, 2011 at 5:30pm
Lol, this is hilarious.
Christians say, “If you’re ready(belief in Jesus), what does it matter?”
Then you have others quote the Bible with the verse that says, “no one knows the hour(of the ending of the world).”
But if the Mayans KNOW, and are correct, that directly contradicts the Bible which means it’s false.
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Because you’re using a wrong phrase. There is no ending of the world. That’s fear doctrine. It’s an end of an age. There might be calamities, or there might not. If the past is an indicator of events that appear to work like clockwork astronomically, something will probably happen.
What the Mayan calendar does is no different than what the astronomical calendar of the Magi did. Point to an event. Not the exact time or day, but the season is pretty evident based on the Word. It simply makes them observant. Satan knows how it works better than man does, it would, and isn’t a surprise he would allude to events. That’s how counterfeits work. The serpent will give you an OCEAN of truth, just to have you drink a pint of poison. It will kill just the same.
That they point to a particular time isn’t prophetic, simply that they know God is right.
Report Post »The10thAmendment
Posted on November 26, 2011 at 6:13pm@ Greenwood
Posted on November 26, 2011 at 5:58pm
@THE10th…………parts of Revelation are about future events
The woman riding the beast (Babylon the Great) is the empire of false religion.
The beast is nation or group of nations ( UN )
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That’s basically what I said, but I believe that the UN has just been a tool for the elite to manipulate. The elite are the Club of Rome.
Any religion that doesn’t teach absolutes, but appeasement theology (moral equivalence/relativism of metaethical philosophy) of any sort is wormwood (false doctrine), and part of the Whore of Mystery Babylon, which is a patchwork of ritualistic practices of paganism. The church of the beast teaches the later, and is unifying it under the worship of the created thing, the environment. Which they are also designing as the monetary basis of their false kingdom, using carbon credits.
In short, it is a technocracy based on worship of the earth as an equivalence, moral equivalence over moral absolutes, a demi-ethics based on tolerance, and man or the elite as god who decides who lives, and who dies to ensure that their idol of earth worship isn’t burdened by the parasitic mankind sucking all the resources, thereby killing earth itself.
Report Post »Unix
Posted on November 26, 2011 at 6:18pmLet me just say this, I cannot prove the catholic church is prostitute on the hill, so I will take that back…it could be NY or a combo of other places and things, I apologize. But everything else I’ve said is certainly true. Let me say this, we are all Christians and Satan works to confuse us, let’s not become enemies over this? Agreed. God Bless.
Report Post »Unix
Posted on November 26, 2011 at 6:20pm@ModerationIsBest – ROFLOL, how can they know, the world hasn’t ended yet, your a barrel of laughs my friend. You’ve just been refuted..LOL LOL LOL…what a putz!
Report Post »Unix
Posted on November 26, 2011 at 6:25pmOK, I am ready to come to terms, I do NOT condemn all catholics by any means, you are good people, that church does good too. And certainly there are pedophiles all over the world and all religions too, so it is not exclusive. Let’s be friends and make up -I’ve apologized, and I’ll do so again, I’m a big boy and I made generalizations, my bad.
Report Post »The10thAmendment
Posted on November 26, 2011 at 6:31pm@ Unix
Posted on November 26, 2011 at 6:18pm
Let me just say this, I cannot prove the catholic church is prostitute on the hill, so I will take that back…it could be NY or a combo of other places and things, I apologize. But everything else I’ve said is certainly true. Let me say this, we are all Christians and Satan works to confuse us, let’s not become enemies over this? Agreed. God Bless.
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We are brothers and sisters in Christ Jesus. You really don’t have anything to apologize for, and you SHOULD challenge (try) those who say they are of Christ. People should be prepared to give an answer for the faith we hold.
I happen to share many of your views concerning what the leadership of the Roman Catholic Church represents today. They have become apostate, and a useful idiot for the elite to wield against the people who simply follow blindly. But that is true for every sect of the Christian faith. I became alarmed when they began agreeing with the idea of extra-terrestrial visitation, and actively constructing observatories in that search. It’s a counterfeit, and makes “those involved” anti-Christ.
So THANK YOU for giving me a reason to testify!
Report Post »The10thAmendment
Posted on November 26, 2011 at 6:41pm@ Unix
Posted on November 26, 2011 at 6:25pm
OK, I am ready to come to terms, I do NOT condemn all catholics by any means, you are good people, that church does good too. And certainly there are pedophiles all over the world and all religions too, so it is not exclusive. Let’s be friends and make up -I’ve apologized, and I’ll do so again, I’m a big boy and I made generalizations, my bad.
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If I saw my Priest molesting a child, or anyone else for that matter, I‘d be forced to go to prison because I’d snap his neck.
Unix
Posted on November 26, 2011 at 6:45pmIndeed 10th, well then, all I can say is you’re welcome.
Report Post »The-Monk
Posted on November 26, 2011 at 7:19pmPerhaps the translation, end of the World, is not being read correctly. If Obama is losing near Nov 2012, I expect him to declare Martial Law and shut down the elections. This might cause a Civil War between Obama’s new personal civilian Army and the rest of us. If Freedom is defeated in America, this could be the end of the World as we know it; the last bastion of true Hope for the all the World.
Report Post »ramburner
Posted on November 26, 2011 at 7:43pmWhile we know the time is near when Jesus returns; no man knows the day or the hour. Haven’t we already seen predictions fail in recent days? Let God be God and we should not worry about the time. Be ready for His coming at any day or hour, receive Christ today – Romans 10:9-13. In response to those of you commenting on Catholic beliefs; Dis you know their official Bible says everything the Christian Bible says? Yet; they don’t teach it as it is to men as they are. Instead, they add a number of books to the Bible, and to their belief system which are NOT considered by the rest of the world to be from God. These are found between the Old and New Testaments and in the various other books they publish called Missels (SP?) etc. Study of these rather than the Bible, all but eliminates Christ as the ONLY WAY to get to Heaven. Having said this; I know many Catholics who read their Bible everyday. Many who have found Christ and who ARE true believers in Him. It is a shame their growth is limited by their church. It is also a shame that so many countries rather allow the Catholic church as the primary religious experience. But remember, the Catholic church was founded near 400AD as a way for the politicians of the time to “control” the people. The first “pope” was selected by the politicians rather than being “called” by God.
Report Post »Unix
Posted on November 26, 2011 at 7:44pmHey Monk, I have to ask, where is this civilian army? How many? Do you have any details on this? Not trying to refute you, just trying to discern what it is, as he has asked for one. Our Dear Leader, the usurper and divider-in-chief will be defeated, if not via the vote, if he declares ML, we will anialiate him and his minions!
Report Post »The-Monk
Posted on November 26, 2011 at 7:56pm@Unix
Listen the “The Man” himself explain what he wants.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tt2yGzHfy7s
You do see all those OWS protesters that BHO praises? Remember the movie RoboCop, when OCP, the new Army, hires all the thugs to fight the police and the citizens to take over? Hollywood has it all laid out for BHO and he’s doing it. Oh, don’t forget to go to the link and hear Obama himself!
Report Post »The-Monk
Posted on November 26, 2011 at 7:58pm@Unix
Report Post »I await your reply after you hear it from the mouth of Obama himself. Do we really know what he’s doing to get his new civilian army going? Muslim Brotherhood maybe?
The-Monk
Posted on November 26, 2011 at 8:03pm@Unix
Report Post »I forgot to mention Obama’s puppet master, Soros. He could put together an Army for Obama with no trouble at all.
ramburner
Posted on November 26, 2011 at 8:08pmI hope those who believe that the Catholic belief is the best or only way will at least begin to read the following passages from their own Bible. While Christ CAN be found in their Bible, it is appalling the lengths “the church” has gone to in order to manufacture and alternative system of worship that is appealing to “the people”. 1) Who should be set over the “church”? read Titus 1:1-5, as written by Paul. Here you see “elders in every city” NOT the pope. 2) Who can be a leader of any church? read Titus 1:6-9. BTW; this is like other passages that grant qualifications for a Bishop (the local leader of the church) to be “The husband of ONE wife….” Priests of today in the Catholic church DO NOT qualify! 3) Who DO we pray to, who CAN forgive our sin and heal us? read 1 John 2:1, 2 We see here we pray to God the Father through Jesus our advocate. Who paid the price for OUR sin and the sin of the world! NOT the Priest, and NOT the pope. Neither of these has the power to do any more than pray for themselves, certainly NOT forgive – or absolve ANY sin for anyone. Notice that we DO NOT pray to Mary either, nor any dead person! They may be in Heaven, but they have NO Power to help us! read John 14:6 No man comes to the Father but by ME; said Jesus.
Report Post »The10thAmendment
Posted on November 26, 2011 at 8:17pm@ The-Monk
Posted on November 26, 2011 at 7:19pm
Perhaps the translation, end of the World, is not being read correctly. If Obama is losing near Nov 2012, I expect him to declare Martial Law and shut down the elections. This might cause a Civil War between Obama’s new personal civilian Army and the rest of us. If Freedom is defeated in America, this could be the end of the World as we know it; the last bastion of true Hope for the all the World.
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I wish that I had the gift for short and concise answers.
In February of 2009 Obama gave the order to create a “civilian army” (national security force) http://axisofright.com/2009/02/18/groundwork-laid-for-obamas-civilian-army/ and http://www.americanthinker.com/2008/07/obamas_civilian_national_secur.html
It was completely funded thru Military expenditures, and will ultimately be paid for thru Obama’s health care, and those “enforcers” will have the full power of the Obama law giving them their marching orders.
Report Post »The10thAmendment
Posted on November 26, 2011 at 8:28pm@ ramburner
Posted on November 26, 2011 at 8:08pm
I hope those who believe that the Catholic belief is the best or only way will at least begin to read the following passages from their own Bible.
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Huh? I CHOOSE to be a member of the Catholic Church, and you CHOOSE to be a member of whatever Church it is that you attend. I happen to enjoy the ceremonies associated with transubstantiation, but it’s a personal preference and belief. I believe ONLY in Christ as the propitiation for my sins, and salvation by Grace thru His shed blood of atonement and subsequent resurrection. If I am faithful to confess my sins, He is fair and just in forgiving them. I do works, not because they lend to salvation, but because they are the testimony of the Spirit working thru me.
I would like to believe that your faith has the same first fruits, and have no reason to doubt you until the fruits prove that we don’t worship God thru that same Jesus, who we as a body of Christ bow ONLY before His throne of Grace.
Report Post »The-Monk
Posted on November 26, 2011 at 8:35pm@The10thAmendment
Report Post »I agree and thanks for the links. I hope “Unix” takes a look at them also.
Read page 133 of Obama’s Job Plan. You can download the PDF from whitehouse.gov. It abrogates States Rights under the 11th Amendment and will clog up the Courts in all 50 States with lawsuits. It will also set a precedent for amending the Constitution without a 2/3rd’s majority vote.
ramburner
Posted on November 26, 2011 at 8:35pm4) Who are “the saints” and when did they become “saints”? read 1 Corinthians 1:1-6, written by Paul to the church at Corinth. Notice NONE of these people were dead, neither voted upon some 400 years after death by “the church” in order to become a saint! They were saved people in Christ who were living at that time and Paul called them Saints. They became saints the instant they received Christ as Lord and Savior! Other passages found in 2 Corinthians 1:1; Romans 1:1-7. When we see any principle of God being professed ONCE, we should believe it. But, when we see that principle being delivered multiple times and to many churches, we MUST NOT ignore it and turn away to design our own way, such as the Catholic church has done. 5) Forbidden to marry? and Commanding to abstain from meats? read 1 Timothy 4:1-5 Who is forbidden to marry today – the Priests? Why did “the church” command to abstain from eating meat on Friday’s? The Bible teaches that ALL things God has created are good when we pray thanks for them 1 Tim 4:4 because it is set apart for the purpose of God by the Word of God and prayer. I could go on, and on about the mis-teachings of the Catholic church. I think it is time “the church” wake up and begin teaching truth and not another teaching made by man. Still, I have many friends who are in the Catholic church and who I KNOW are saved! They received Christ on their own after reading the Bible , however, NOT because of the “church”.
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Posted on November 26, 2011 at 9:15pm@BookLVR51; “Jesus said to Peter, the first Pope, “Thou art Peter, and upon this rock (Peter means ‘rock’) I will build My Church and the gates of hell shall not prevail against it.” (Matthew 16:18)”
Report Post »If this were indeed true, then what room has Christ in the church? Isn’t Christ the Chief Cornerstone? Ephesions 2:20 (NIV) If Christ is the Cornerstone (the Big Rock) then all others, including Peter – the Apostles and Preachers of today are “little stones” by comparison. Peter means little stone, NOT Rock. Ref. Strongs Concordance #G4074; Petros= Peter, stone. Also, the Catholic church was founded about 400AD and could NOT have had a pope until that time. This church was created under Constantine and until revisionist history was allowed to bring it’s ugly head to light, there was no argument about that. Believe what you may, one day we will all know the truth. I just hope you have received Christ and NOT been fooled into believing the Catholic doctrine of baptism for salvation. Read about Baptism in Matthew :1-17. Jesus being our example was Baptized and His example should be followed in all succeeding Baptisms. So often churches replace the MUCH water that Jesus went DOWN INTO and came UP OUT OF with just a sprinkling. With sprinkling, the only things baptized are the persons fingers.
ramburner
Posted on November 26, 2011 at 9:27pm@The10thAmendment; Please read all of my postings, for whatever reason I did not say again in the post you read and responded to that I have MANY friends who ARE Christians in the Catholic church. One day we will ALL know the truth. However, the knowledge you have espoused came from the Bible and NOT from the extra books that the Catholic church hands out. “I believe ONLY in Christ as the propitiation for my sins, and salvation by Grace thru His shed blood of atonement and subsequent resurrection. If I am faithful to confess my sins, He is fair and just in forgiving them. I do works, not because they lend to salvation, but because they are the testimony of the Spirit working thru me.” Amen! YOU are a brother in Christ. Understand, most people attending the Catholic church do NOT have the conviction that you have and have never opened their Bible, but, blindly believe the churches teachings. THIS IS THE PROBLEM, since their own Bible, which I have DOES teach the truth, but the other books that they spend most of their time in, DO NOT. My comments were made in broad strokes and NOT to offend any single person, please read all I said and do the research as Glenn always says. If the comment is meant for you, God will convict, I cannot judge anyone.
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Posted on November 26, 2011 at 9:50pm@ ramburner
Posted on November 26, 2011 at 9:27pm
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I have a passion for reading. So I have been reading every post in the subjects that interest me. This one fascinates me because of this I believe, and disbelieve. I’m not taking your posts as condemnations by any means, but I was struck with your point of Catholics believing we serve a different God, then say Baptists, or Methodists, or Evangelicals, or Lutheran, or any other sect, or that we’re superior. That’s simply not the case for many practicing Catholics.
I’ve done serious research into the foundations of organized Christianity, but one thing we have to understand. GOD DOES NOT MAKE MISTAKES! If He allowed the Canon of Scriptures to come into the form they are, He had His reason for that. God isn’t a deceiver, nor does He plot our demise, so His Word remains once all the frivolity of mans petty idiosyncrasies and prejudices are removed.
I am a Computer Engineer by trade so mathematics, physics, and geometry are something that comes as second nature. Basing everything from the Books of Creation forward is amazing to me at how perfectly it has been designed. By astronomy, geometry, and physical man I KNOW that every breath we take declares the glory of God, and that He allowed the Scriptures to come in their present form intentionally. It also makes it easy to spot perversions.
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Posted on November 26, 2011 at 9:57pm@ The-Monk
Posted on November 26, 2011 at 8:35pm
@The10thAmendment
I agree and thanks for the links. I hope “Unix” takes a look at them also.
Read page 133 of Obama’s Job Plan. You can download the PDF from whitehouse.gov. It abrogates States Rights under the 11th Amendment and will clog up the Courts in all 50 States with lawsuits. It will also set a precedent for amending the Constitution without a 2/3rd’s majority vote.
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No problem, and I whole heartedly agree with you on this. I chuckle when I hear people say that it won’t be long before we have drones spying on our own citizens. It’s been happening since Bush brought about that abortion known as the Patriot Act.
I was stunned though when my sister told me that she had been channeled into a checkpoint, physically searched, as well as her car, in the State of Tennessee by the TSA. They are further along in their plans to begin police state actions in America than people are willing to understand.
No conspiracy theories are needed. It’s happening in front of our eyes.
The ONLY thing they fear are Christians who believe in absolutes, and a presidential candidate who WILL turn America hard right to the Constitution, and undo their garbage.
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Posted on November 26, 2011 at 10:46pm@The10thAmendment; please look on page 4 for my response, sorry my friend.
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Posted on November 26, 2011 at 11:43pmSweathog,
Report Post »The “Queen of Heaven” “Virgin Mother” “Mother of God” titles all came from Nimrod’s wife, Semiramis. She and Nimrod set up the Mystery Religions of Babylon. Oddly, she was a whore from the city of Erech on the plain of Shinar (Hebrew for Semiramis). They built the Tower of Babel as a temple to Nimrod. Nimrod was a sun god, Semiramis was a moon goddess, and Damu (AKA Timmuz in Hebrew and Adonis in Greek) was the god associated with Venus.
God confused the languages of the people and the mystery religion spread and diversified. Egypt had their version, Greece had theirs, the Arabs had their version and the Hindus had their version. All the same religion but different names. The Romans really didnt have their own culture so they borrowed heavily from the Greeks. Hence Zeus became became Jupiter, Aphrodite became Venus, Poseidon became Neptune and so on.
When Christianity became the official religion of Rome they did not give up their pagan gods. They just renamed them. Jupiter became Jehovah, Adonis became Jesus, Venus became Mary, and the other minor gods all renamed as saints. For a fact, the actual idol of Zeus from the pagan Roman temple was moved to the Vatican and people still worship it today in the same manner they did 2000 years ago. The Pope still holds sun god worship “mass” when he places the “wafer” (sun disk) into the monstrance (crescent moon). The “wafer” even has the pagan symbol of the Sun god (circle with a + in it).
The10thAmendment
Posted on November 27, 2011 at 12:40am@ ramburner
Posted on November 26, 2011 at 10:46pm
@The10thAmendment; please look on page 4 for my response, sorry my friend.
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That’s cool. Thanks for the post. I’ll be absolutely honest with you. I have looked at the several idea’s surrounding the Rapture. There will certainly be one, but my position is that whether pre, mid, or post doesn’t really matter. That we’re prepared, and right with God in every way is what matters. If Christ Jesus returns today, tomorrow or some other date in the future doesn’t sway my eyes from looking for the hastening of His return.
I think we should act as though He might return at any moment (oil in our lamps), and our house in order. Whatever our occupation we should seek to be exemplary as thanks to God for putting us in our positions. We should also prepare for any occasion of calamity as wise stewards to our family and that day won’t be able to come on us unaware.
There are signs of His return all around us, but that day and hour aren’t ours to know. It’s not a trick to catch us doing wrong, it’s the command to be ready for whenever that was. If our ark is ready disaster can’t injure us.
Report Post »ramburner
Posted on November 27, 2011 at 7:30am@The10thAmendment; I agree with most of what you had said. I am a Premillenialist because the Rapture can be found described in at least three New testament locations; 1 Cor 15:52, 1 Thess 4:16 and Rev 4:1. The words recorded by Paul in 1 Thess 4:16 and those written by John in Rev 4:1 are nearly the same when they describe the event, both mention the sound of the trumpet being heard. The thing that makes me a Pre and not mid or post is that the book of Rev was written in chronological order by time. We are currently living during the later part of Rev chapter 3, the church of the Laodiceans. Rev 4:1 depicts the Rapture. bingo Pre, not mid or post. You can now get a clear representation of the amount of time that must be left before the Rapture – not much! Yes, we MUST be about God’s business and each of us has a field ready for harvest. Another thing is that I don’t believe Christ would allow His church to go through such a time, out of His love for us. Keep in mind, 2 Thess 2 describes the events leading to the Rapture. Just after the Rapture, notice the words “He who now lets, will let until he be taken out of the way”. He who now lets is the Holy Spirit. That being the case, it says He will be taken out of the way.
Report Post »That makes sense since I think I remember teaching that there will be no Godly presence left on earth until God allows the 144,000 Rev 7:5 (12,000 Jews from each of the 12 tribes) to be saved and become preachers of the gospel during the tribulation perio
ramburner
Posted on November 27, 2011 at 7:31am@The10thAmendment; God would not want us involved in a time when He would not hear our request or be ready to respond to us. Instead, I believe it teaches that we will be taken at the rapture, then the Tribulation, then Christ comes with His saints (the church) and He fights the battle of Armageddon, then He sets up His millennial rule here on This Earth, where the Saints will rule cities and kingdoms for 1000 years based upon their talents and how well they served Christ in this life. Then at last, those who live through the Tribulation and enter into the millennial kingdom and all those born during that 1000 years will have one last chance to decide who they will serve, Christ or Satan. Christ will loose the chains on Satan and allow him out to seek and to devour those who will forever fall. Then the last judgment; The Great White Throne Judgment Rev 20:11-15. Those who are judged solely by their works will be sent into the eternal lake of fire and brimstone where they will deliver up the smoke of their torment forever without an end to the suffering.
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Posted on November 27, 2011 at 3:40pm@RamBurner
I simply want to encourage you to study Daniel 9:25-27… In that study and if correctly you will see there is no rapture where folks are left behind. 7 year tribulation is based off the notion 7 years are left in Daniels 70 weeks but those verses clearly show it is not true. Order of weeks: 7,62,1…
*After* 62 the Messiah came and was crucified, which means in the 70th week…
Would love to discuss with you if you’d like. Regardless, we all need to be ready…
10th Amendment
Love your knowledge. Club of Rome is a major problem. Something I’d like to pass along you might like to look into around civilian army or beasts army is in regards to XE…You get time do a search over it. Hope you are well.
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Posted on November 27, 2011 at 4:15pm@RamBurner
One last thing, if you do see the Papal Catholic faith as the Anti-Christ like all Protestant Churches once taught then you would understand we are well past Rev 3. First beast,Second beast and image they made can be identified as well as many seals and trumpets. We are in the time of Revelations right before the beast enforces the mark when the Angel calls to come out of Babylon. The Mark being enforced is coming soon.
The 144k are just like the 300 widdled out of 30k in Gideon’s army because they did not resort back to the flesh in troubling times or out of habit. The 144 will preach encouragement to other believers so they will stand and not take the mark. The 144 will not fall back to the fleshy desire to eat, or have security as they have been tried like we all have each day in life and shown they are of the strongest of faith.
No one will be raptured out to miss the plagues or tribulation. Tribulation occurs daily and plagues are unmixed and directed straight to unbelievers.
Always appreciate a friendly conversation on God’s Word. Keep the faith. God is good.
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Posted on November 27, 2011 at 5:18pm@10th Amendment
Quick question, doesn’t this debunk the whole one must stand for physical Israel or not be blessed lie?
Verse used by Zionists is below and doesn’t mention Israel or land but Abraham and his seed.
Now the Lord had said unto Abram, Get thee out of thy country, and from thy kindred, and from thy father’s house, unto a land that I will shew thee: And I will make of thee a great nation, and I will bless thee, and make thy name great; and thou shalt be a blessing: And I will bless them that bless thee, and curse him that curseth thee: and in thee shall all families of the earth be blessed. (Genesis 12:1-3 KJV)
Who is Abraham’s seed according to Paul:
And if ye be Christ’s, then are ye Abraham’s seed, and heirs according to the promise. (Galatians 3:29 KJV)
Curious to your thoughts….
Report Post »Dismayed Veteran
Posted on November 28, 2011 at 9:42am@duha
I thought Islam was the Beast.
Report Post »grayling646
Posted on November 26, 2011 at 4:50amSo the Mayan calendar maker goes to his boss and says, “Well, I finished the calendar but only had enough room to go thru Dec 12, 2012″.
The boss smiles and says, “Great, that‘ll screw with somebody’s head some day”.
Report Post »wbalzley
Posted on November 26, 2011 at 6:26amI like it!
Report Post »BOMUSTGO
Posted on November 26, 2011 at 7:26amI saw the cartoon with the same thing on it.
Report Post »Komponist-ZAH
Posted on November 27, 2011 at 4:25pmThe real problem with the whole “the Mayan calendar ends on Dec. 21, 2012″ thing is that we don’t really know how the Gregorian and Mayan calendars correlate; Dec. 21, 2012 is the date given by the most widely accepted correlation, but that has recently been questioned as being perhaps as much as 100 years off, so that it is entirely possible that the much feared “end” of the Mayan “Long Count” has already happened.
Report Post »Survivor101
Posted on November 26, 2011 at 4:37amChicken Little says, “the world is going to end….it is predicted by the Mayan Calendar!” – Really folks????
Report Post »RepubliCorp
Posted on November 26, 2011 at 5:15amAll the Mayans live here now and the calendar that they pick up at Wal-mart was made in China.
Report Post »wbalzley
Posted on November 26, 2011 at 6:40amI agree with you 100% about the “chicken little” thing; it is annoying. YES the world (as we know it) is going to come to an end. NO it will not happen today, or tomorrow. It will likely not happen for another 40 or 50 years. There is no reason to PANIC.
Just live each day the best you can and TRUST GOD. Worrying will not save you. Stockpiling gold and guns–trusting in the arm of the FLESH–will not save you. Just do the best you can with what you have, and God will make up the difference.
Psalm 46:10 God is our refuge and strength—He dwells in his city, does marvelous things, and says, Be still and know that I am God.
Report Post »KwikKarl
Posted on November 26, 2011 at 6:50amMayan Calendar thingy – don’t believe… Remember though, no one believed Noah.
No one knows the time…
Matthew –
Report Post »36But of that day and hour knoweth no man, no, not the angels of heaven, but my Father only. 37But as the days of Noe were, so shall also the coming of the Son of man be. 38For as in the days that were before the flood they were eating and drinking, marrying and giving in marriage, until the day that Noe entered into the ark, 39And knew not until the flood came, and took them all away; so shall also the coming of the Son of man be. 40Then shall two be in the field; the one shall be taken, and the other left. 41Two women shall be grinding at the mill; the one shall be taken, and the other left.
loriann12
Posted on November 26, 2011 at 6:54amEvery time they give a date as to when the world will end, you know it’s NOT that date. Originally it was 12/12/12. They even said 11/11/11, which apparently didn’t happen. So now, 12/21/12 and 12/23/12 are out, too.
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Posted on November 26, 2011 at 5:19pm@ loriann12
Posted on November 26, 2011 at 6:54am
Every time they give a date as to when the world will end, you know it’s NOT that date. Originally it was 12/12/12. They even said 11/11/11, which apparently didn’t happen. So now, 12/21/12 and 12/23/12 are out, too.
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We can know the time, but not the day and the hour. I agree with you 100% that date setting is by its very nature false doctrine. The only way someone will guess the right day is the blind squirrel finds nut scenario.
MMSands
Posted on November 26, 2011 at 3:17amThe Mayans viewed time very differently from the way we do. They are considered the “masters of time,” as they were obsessed with it and their calendar is actually more accurate than the one we use. That said, they also viewed reality a bit differently. All but a part of three of their books were burned by the Spanish, and it‘s only within the last 30 years that we’ve even been able to decipher their writing. To the Maya, everything happens in cycles, including time. What we see as a “time line,“ they saw as a ”time spiral.” There was literally nothing new under the sun as far as they were concerned: everything happens in cycles, and each day has been seen before. It’s more like an endless repetition than it is a chronology of events. Therefore, to look for some kind of end in 2012 is to impose our own standards on those of another culture, religion, and time. We all know how badly that works when the trolls start trying to impose the standards of our times onto the Founding Fathers and the Revolutionary period. One can only begin to imagine how much more wrong we are when we try to impose our standards onto something as alien to us as the Mayan time sense, cosmological view, and culture.
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Posted on November 26, 2011 at 4:01am“One can only begin to imagine how much more wrong we are when we try to impose our standards onto something as alien to us as the Mayan time sense, cosmological view, and culture”.
Well,you can take all that Mayan culture,time sense,cosmological view,and study it all you want.Enjoy yourself.
Report Post »The rest of us don’t pretend.The Mayans were common savages at the best, a curiosity at the least. Nothing more.IMO.
grayling646
Posted on November 26, 2011 at 4:53amThey made a movie about that called Groundhog Day. Great movie.
Report Post »Choctaw25
Posted on November 26, 2011 at 6:36amAnd SH!!, I thought I was going to be able to skip Black Friday next year and save some money.
Report Post »SLOWBIDEN
Posted on November 26, 2011 at 10:30amTime is relative so how could they be more accurate?
Report Post »lukerw
Posted on November 26, 2011 at 1:55pmJust tell me: WHO is the Prophecy for? — Indians? — The Mexicans? — Latinos? — Worshipers of gods? — South Americans? — It depends where I am in on this, how much I care!
Report Post »MrMagoo
Posted on November 26, 2011 at 2:44amI watched the Mayans in Mel Gibsons movie,Apocalypto.Nothing but heathens,filthy animals.If they predicted anything,it was pure luck in doing so.So far as I can tell,they gave the World NOTHING
Almost..
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Posted on November 26, 2011 at 3:00amDon’t go taking Apocalypto too seriously, now. Gibson wasn’t actually in the ancient Mayan world: that was his take on a particular aspect of it, and who knows how much he got right. The archaeologists weren’t too happy with it, and neither were the natives. In any case, these are the people who started using the zero a full 300 years before it was “discovered” in India (and subsequently used by the Arabs). They knew about black holes, were predicting eclipses accurately, had a comprehensive knowledge of medicine that way surpassed anything known in the “Old World,” and who knows what else, given that all their extensive libraries were burned by those bastions of civilization, the Spaniards.
Report Post »MrMagoo
Posted on November 26, 2011 at 3:21amThe Spaniards were tall and proud.And contributed plenty to the World,albeit sometimes violently,but they weren’t chopping heads off.The Spanish language is awesome and forever lasting.Those little runts called Mayans aren‘t all they’re cracked up to be.Their heathenistic lifestyle was deplorable.Its why they perished.2012 and the myth associated with them is ridiculous.IN MY OPINION.
Report Post »loriann12
Posted on November 26, 2011 at 6:58amHistory is written by the victor. We don’t know that the Mayans were NOT intelligent. They were defeated, so it just means they were weaker than the Spaniards. You would have to look at ALL of their other prophesies to see if they came true. I like the other post, (paraphrased) if the prophesy doesn’t come about, God didn’t speak to you. And no one will know the time, not even the son.
Report Post »quicker
Posted on November 26, 2011 at 7:16amand they wer`nt Mayans ,they were Aztecs.
Report Post »chips1
Posted on November 26, 2011 at 10:06amMRMAGOO:
Report Post »Don’t you think we have enough problems without you pi$$ing off the Pigmys?
HigherRoad
Posted on November 26, 2011 at 11:38amMRMAGOO–Totally agree! The Mayans were a blood cult of pagan heathens. Isn’t it ironic that “science” puts so much credence in imagined intellect deciphered from stone carvings and yet dismisses the Bible which chronicles in detail 4000 years of God’s relationship with His creation. It reminds me of the movie, Being There, with Peter Sellers. His character, Chance the gardener, was clueless about pretty much everything; yet, the Washington elite perceived him to be a philosophical genius.
Report Post »WASALIBNOWIGOTIT
Posted on November 26, 2011 at 2:38amI’m not a literalist when it comes to either the bible or a Mayan calendar. I take each day as it comes and take care of my loved ones. To me. It’s that simple.
Report Post »Jomil48
Posted on November 26, 2011 at 6:43ambe ready in season and out of season, no one knows your day will come
Report Post »wbalzley
Posted on November 26, 2011 at 2:32amMatt 24:36-37: “But of that day and hour no one knows, not even the angels of heaven, but My Father only. “But as the days of Noah were, so also will the coming of the Son of Man be.
PREDICTION:
No, Dec 21 (Dec 23?) 2012 is NOT the end of the world. However, 2012 will be a signature year as the economy worsens and tensions mount. I believe that we will likely see the beginning of a third world war with the US, Israel, and Europe arrayed against China, Iran, and Russia. Energy prices will “necessarily” skyrocket, deepening the current recession.
In spite of this, the war will bring America back to full employment as hundreds of thousands of troops are mobilized, and as jobs are repatriated from enemy nations. Also, the national debt will be reduced as the US terminates its bond agreements with enemy nations. The oil shortage will force the US to either develop alternative energy sources, or increase production of domestic fossil fuels.
Despite the loss of life, The United States will emerge stronger than before…
Report Post »UFOCPrez
Posted on November 26, 2011 at 3:04am“Watch out that no one deceives you. For many will come in my name, claiming, ‘I am the Christ, ‘ and will deceive many. You will hear of wars and rumors of wars, but see to it that you are not alarmed. Such things must happen, but the end is still to come. Nation will rise against nation, and kingdom against kingdom. There will be famines and earthquakes in various places. All these are the beginning of birth pains”. — No one will know the hour, but there will be signs.
Report Post »survivorseed
Posted on November 26, 2011 at 3:47am@wbalzley – Is that a prediction or a wet dream?
Report Post »wbalzley
Posted on November 26, 2011 at 6:14am@Surviorseed: It is meerly a logical extension of current trends. No more. No less. I derive no pleasure from any of this, only a sense of frustration that after thousands of years we still have not learned to live in peace with one another.
Report Post »sillyfreshness
Posted on November 26, 2011 at 2:21amIt‘s odd how a stone age people who didn’t possess the wheel could have astrological knowledge that rivals NASA of today. Many have theorized that an advanced civilization or even aliens provided them the advanced knowledge. It’s hard to say, but the Mayans are quick to point out that they were given “external” knowledge. As others have said, the closer we get to 2012, the more crap has been happening in this world….earthquakes, civil unrest, sun activity, economic disasters, weather related problems, possible Canary Islands landslide, etc. This whole 2012 seems more and more plausible as we approach the date-that in and of itself is very disturbing. It can’t hurt to be preparing for some kind of disaster. The whole year 2000 prophecy wasn’t really a prophecy by anyone except tech geeks dealing with computers. This 2012 prophecy has been around for centuries. As we approach the date, it will become more obvious that the Mayans were on to something. Then we have to ask how they obtained this knowledge centuries in advance.
Report Post »wbalzley
Posted on November 26, 2011 at 2:39amY2K was a very real threat, but we caught the mistake and were able to avert potential disaster in time. However, I agree that everyone going into “chicken little” mode over it was rediculous.
Report Post »slightlymperfect
Posted on November 26, 2011 at 8:17amYeah, its almost like there was a civilization more advanced than us that was wiped off the earth about 30,000 years ago, and mankind had to start over from the wheel. Oh wait, that’s what the Egyptians, Hittites, Hopi Indians, and the Maya were sayin before… OOOPS
Report Post »UlyssesP
Posted on November 26, 2011 at 9:16amIt’s not “odd” at all. That’s all they did. They had no lights polluting their night sky. They had no televisions, computers, etc. nothing but curiosity and staring at the heavens, year after year after year observing coincidences and correlations and noting how they relate to harvests, etc.
Report Post »Then they had to go and make up stories about why it all is and cut open captives and virgins to appease something that was already happening before they ever looked up.
Smart and savage. Just like modern humanity.
SomeRandomPerson
Posted on November 26, 2011 at 2:13amGeez, doesn’t anyone read the Book of Revelation in the Bible? The world doesn’t “end” for at least another 7 years, and even then it doesn’t “end” it just gets reformed into a heaven on earth.
Report Post »ILUVJESUS
Posted on November 26, 2011 at 2:22amTrue, but when the world doesn’t end next December Christians will get the blame as they always do.
Report Post »Hey, the Mayan calendar is goingto run out! Big deal! Let it run out. It means nothing. The 2011 calendar in my garage will run out this December, but time marches on!
AmericanPatriot01
Posted on November 26, 2011 at 5:06amFrom the research I have done, cross referrencing the astonomical and geological sciences and dating technologies The logial conclusion is that the Mayan/Aztech calendar ends because it will no longer referrence the passage of time as we know it. Due to the passage of our Galaxy throught the intense magnetic field that exists in the event horizen that extends from the central black hole in the center of the universe. This passage happens every 25,600 years as mapped by the astronomical sciences. and actually becomes a logical progression of events as we experience this transition. The number of days in the year will change, the hours in the day will change (possible that the earth will stop rotating for a few days) the poles will shift changing the relationship of seasons and climate of some areas drastically (as they relate to the north and south polar regions). This event will effect every body in the solar sytem, Every solar system, star, planet and heavenly body in our Galaxy.
Effectively Time does not end, the planet does not end, but the upheaval, chaos, and ultimate terror of the sky seemingly falling from heaven will be tramatic. The Galaxy will take approx. 6.5 years to pass through this region of space and is expected to start around 12/21/12, the winter solstice. The effects on the sun and the planets will be chaotic and dramatic. But, it will not be the end of the planet or the extinction of human kind, although many will die.
Report Post »momsense
Posted on November 26, 2011 at 7:25amThe latest adminsitration and it’s allies have pretty much revised religion to reflect a Marxist interpretation of Christian theology.. If you expect traditional Christian teachings–you won’t find them much preached.
Report Post »jay_GUNNER
Posted on November 26, 2011 at 9:19am@somerandomperson: Thank you…you’re the first person I have actually seen use the correct title/spelling of the book of Revelation! Amazingly, multiple self-proclaiming experts in eschatology that post their dimwitted “matter of fact” opinions on the subject matter make the classic blunder of calling it the Book of RevelationS.
Report Post »slightlymperfect
Posted on November 26, 2011 at 1:42amI could dismiss one or two ancient “prophecies” (the mayan prediction really is more math than religion) if modern science didn’t show so many things converging on this date as well. The earth‘s magnetic field weakening and the sun’s activity strengthening. the poles shifting (they’ve had to seriously adjust some airport runways due to this). One report said the poles could shift causing the earth to slow to a stop and start spinning in the opposite direction — all in one day. Think of the seas sloshing out of their basins. They say this happened close to 30,000 years ago, and that is why so many cultures have a Great Flood story. I don’t claim to know or understand what will or will not happen, but the evidence is pretty compelling. I prepare for this just like I prepare for the economic collapse. Hopefully I’ll just have a bunch of extra food around, lol.
Report Post »BOMUSTGO
Posted on November 26, 2011 at 2:03amThese things may happen.Whe the people worship the creation over the creator,the Almighty will turn their god against the people.
Report Post »Isa 24:20-23 The earth shall reel to and fro like a drunkard, and shall be removed like a cottage; and the transgression thereof shall be heavy upon it; and it shall fall, and not rise again.
21. And it shall come to pass in that day, that the Lord shall punish the host of the high ones that are on high, and the kings of the earth upon the earth.
22. And they shall be gathered together, as prisoners are gathered in the pit, and shall be shut up in the prison, and after many days shall they be visited.
23. Then the moon shall be confounded, and the sun ashamed, when the Lord of hosts shall reign in mount Zion, and in Jerusalem, and before his ancients gloriously.
Luke 21:25 And there shall be signs in the sun, and in the moon, and in the stars; and upon the earth distress of nations, with perplexity; the sea and the waves roaring;
WASALIBNOWIGOTIT
Posted on November 26, 2011 at 2:28amI’m sorry, that sloshing ocean thing makes me laugh. That never happened. It was water melting and breaking through natural earth and rock dams. You know, at the end of the Ice Age. How ccan a simple shifting of the poles stop the earth from spinning?? It’s junk science and false physics. Don’t worry, it’s not gonna happen. No-one knows clearly what will happen. Not even the solid scientists. Some think nothing, some think maybe something. I say, do you really think God wants us worrying about it? I think God would rather we be calmly looking after those we love and keeping our wits about us, come what may.
Report Post »slightlymperfect
Posted on November 26, 2011 at 8:08amThe iron core of the earth destabilizes and flips upside down; let’s say its spinning counter-clockwise, which causes the earth to spin counter-clockwise and the sun to rise in the east. when the core flips upside down, it will be spinning clockwise, which will cause the earth to spin clockwise, and the sun will rise in the west. You have to realize that the sky was the ancient people’s world — the average mayan walking down the street knew more about astronomy than most astronomers today. Their calculations indicate that the center of the universe (a black hole they call the Womb of the Mother), will align with our sun and our planet. They called this the Passage to the Underworld, I think. ISN’T THERE ANYONE AT THE BLAZE INTRIGUED ENOUGH TO WATCH A COUPLE DOCS ABOUT THIS AND REPORT?
Report Post »Secessionista
Posted on November 26, 2011 at 9:16amThe claim that the earth changed rotational direction is baloney. No law of physics would ever allow it.
It never happened, and it never will happen. Literally, not in a million years.
Report Post »ScienceIsNotEvil
Posted on November 26, 2011 at 10:39am“One report said the poles could shift causing the earth to slow to a stop and start spinning in the opposite direction — all in one day.”
Where does the energy required to cause such an event come from? And what holds the Earth together while this happens?
Report Post »GhostOfJefferson
Posted on November 26, 2011 at 11:50am30,000 years ago the world was covered in Neanderthals. We have a comprehensive knowledge of their tool sets and some knowledge of their rituals, both pre and post 30,000 years ago. They weren’t rocket scientists and did not have the capacity to spawn a high tech civilization. **** sapiens sapiens at the time shared essentially the same tool set, albeit with improvements, and were sharp but, alas, still technologically in the stone age (literally). The biggest piece of technology they could claim, was the making of flower and the budding of agriculture. Not insignificant, surely, but not earth shattering either.
Report Post »LeadNotFollow
Posted on November 26, 2011 at 1:21amI guess it’s getting near time to purchase a ticket, for a ride in the TARDIS.
Report Post »The Eleventh Doctor
Posted on November 26, 2011 at 1:39amWe we could get a ticket for the TARDIS to travel a time when we could prevent Obama from becoming president….
Report Post »Marci
Posted on November 26, 2011 at 1:42amNo one knows the year, date or time. Simple as that.
Report Post »Rayblue
Posted on November 26, 2011 at 1:14amThe world was supposed to end in 2000, remember ? I had 9 cartons of cigarettes and a case of beanie weenies just in case…… So screw it.
Report Post »This time I have a bottle of Perrier water and a bag of Jolly Ranchers.
NancyBee
Posted on November 27, 2011 at 12:56pm@ Rayblue………….Well!……………..You really went all out to prepare….lol
Report Post »AOL_REFUGEE
Posted on November 26, 2011 at 1:06amWell, the Mayan calendar ends, what, 12/21/12? However, now that Tabasco is in the mix, I’m thinking that maybe all we have to do is just not eat that last Buffalo wing.
Report Post »The10thAmendment
Posted on November 26, 2011 at 1:03amI love playing with this stuff. All these “supposed” different sun gods running around from that period of time is just farcinating! Counterfeit, counterfeit, counterfeit.
Queztalcoatl: (Aztec – “feathered-serpent”) An Aztec god of the air or a sun-god and a benefactor of their race who instructed them in the use of agriculture, metals and the like. According to one account, Quetzalcoatl was driven from the country by a superior god and on reaching the shores of the Mexican Gulf promised his followers that he would return. He then embarked on his magic skiff for the land of Tlapallan
Report Post »lukerw
Posted on November 26, 2011 at 1:10am… and, the Calendar predicted his return… when the Conquestadors arrived!
Report Post »Psychosis
Posted on November 26, 2011 at 12:59amThe end of the world for one man will come on november 3rd…….cause his wife is going to kick his azz when he gets fired
Report Post »phillipwgirard
Posted on November 26, 2011 at 1:13amLOL Got it,,,
Report Post »BOMUSTGO
Posted on November 26, 2011 at 1:19amI can’t wait to change my screen name!
Report Post »CatB
Posted on November 26, 2011 at 2:09amI believe the election is on the 6th … let me check … yes the 6th .. I predict the recover begins on the 7th .. unless IDIOTS re-elect him … and then yes 12-21-12 sounds about right for the end.
TEA!
Report Post »onebigassmistakeamerica
Posted on November 26, 2011 at 12:51amI’m going to vote for Obama ’cause he’ll stop the End Of the World just as he parted the seas!
Report Post »AOL_REFUGEE
Posted on November 26, 2011 at 1:08amThe only thing that bunghole parted was the cheeks of his arse, when he decided to crap on all of us.
Report Post »1casawizard
Posted on November 26, 2011 at 1:09amLawd-hav-mercy I thought obummer wuz gonna pay my fingernail note. ****
Report Post »1casawizard
Posted on November 26, 2011 at 1:18amThe whole world farted, not the seas parted. Good grief, youngun! don’t you know no better?
Report Post »Brittany-Imbriaarts
Posted on November 26, 2011 at 12:48amIf the world does end oh well, If not move on, knowing when and where no matter what will be end up being right or wrong. So all one can do is just live their lives as if tomorrow is the day you die.
Report Post »Snowleopard {gallery of cat folks}
Posted on November 26, 2011 at 12:44amWhy can people not understand that sometimes a brick is just a brick.
Report Post »lukerw
Posted on November 26, 2011 at 12:59amBecause… the Brick says: We are going to Kill You!
Report Post »BOMUSTGO
Posted on November 26, 2011 at 12:35amThe world won’t end. The Earth abides forever.(Ecclesiastes 1:4 One generation passeth away, and another generation cometh: but the earth abideth for ever.) The term “end of the world” means “end of the age.”We will know when their are seven years left when we see a covenant made with Israel and the Jews build their Temple and the one who makes the covenant breaks it 3 1/2 years later. He will be the one that is “The abomination that makes desolate. Dan 9:27 And he shall confirm the covenant with many for one week: and in the midst of the week he shall cause the sacrifice and the oblation to cease, and for the overspreading of abominations he shall make it desolate, even until the consummation, and that determined shall be poured upon the desolate.Matt 24:15 When ye therefore shall see the abomination of desolation, spoken of by Daniel the prophet, stand in the holy place, (whoso readeth, let him understand:)
Report Post »phillipwgirard
Posted on November 26, 2011 at 12:53amYour very well read, thank you
Report Post »lukerw
Posted on November 26, 2011 at 1:13amUnforunately… the Earth will Freeze as soon as the Moon moves far enough away… or Burn as soon as the Sun goes Nova. Nothing is Eternal, but GOD.
Report Post »AOL_REFUGEE
Posted on November 26, 2011 at 1:19amSo, the Earth may abide forever. Doesn’t mean WE will.
Report Post »BOMUSTGO
Posted on November 26, 2011 at 1:24am@ LUKERW…LOL The moon will stay with the earth too.Isa 66:23 And it shall come to pass, that from one new moon to another, and from one sabbath to another, shall all flesh come to worship before me, saith the Lord.(Note: the Hebrew Biblical calendar is based on a 360 day lunar calendar.This is the calendar I use.)
Report Post »sweathog1948
Posted on November 26, 2011 at 12:23pm@BOMUSTGO
There are a few things i disagree with. End of the world means end of the age. The earth and heaven will be destroyed and God will create a new heaven and a new earth. There are scriptures that mean the end of the world and scriptures that mean the end of the age. One must take it in context that it is written in. Walter Martin creator of the Bible Answer Man Show once said, A text taking out of context is a pretext. Context is very important.
We will know when there is 7 years left, when the covenant is made. The Great Tribulation has already started when the Anti-Christ makes a cocenant with Israel.
The word says we will not know the day or the hour that the Trib. has started. We could be in the beginning stages to the Trib.now, and then again we may not.
I believe in the mid-trib when the Christians will be raptured. God has said that the Christians will not see the wrath of God, because Jesus paid the price for our sins. As long as we are born again and believe in Jesus we do not face the wrath of God. The word does not say that the christian will not face the wrath of the anti-christ. This is why I believe we will be raptured half way through the Trib. But even then I do not believe we will know that it is midtrib. There will be so much going on in this world plus God has told us we do not know the exact time of his return.
Report Post »1casawizard
Posted on November 26, 2011 at 12:20amOh crap, I better pay my house note off , in case I die.
Report Post »82dAirborne
Posted on November 26, 2011 at 12:36amOr not!
Report Post »BOMUSTGO
Posted on November 26, 2011 at 12:42amIf the Mayans were smart enough to figure this out, how come their cuture won’t survive to see it?The way Obama and the “Puppet Master” Soros are going, next year may just start a new age. This is the 21st century and that is why the U.N. has Agenda 21. Welcome to the New Socialized New World Order! People will be expecting a show 2012. They can create another crisis and blame it on the Mayan calendar.
Report Post »1casawizard
Posted on November 26, 2011 at 12:47am82nd, Where ya been. Ain’t seen ya round?
Report Post »82dAirborne
Posted on November 26, 2011 at 1:30amTurkey induced coma!
Report Post »lukerw
Posted on November 26, 2011 at 12:11am7 Billion people, now… Europe & the US in Economic Decline… Socialists & Unions demanding Redistribution of Wealth… Atheists & Gays demanding special Rights… Muslims attempting to re-establish a Caliphate for World Domination… ignorance of Constitution & Capitalist… rising Prices of Food & Energy… Inflation as Government Policy… would be Dictators everywhere… I am just surprised that it will take to 12/21/12!
Report Post »BOMUSTGO
Posted on November 26, 2011 at 12:48amThe counterfeit kingdom is being set up before the the Messiah (Yeshua) comes to earth to set up the True Kingdom.
Report Post »lukerw
Posted on November 26, 2011 at 12:58amI think… Christ told his followers… to build the Kingdom of God on Earth… as part of Salvation… where as you add on to the Kingdom of God on Earth… you will be added on to the Kingdom of God in Heaven… being a Duality!
Report Post »BOMUSTGO
Posted on November 26, 2011 at 1:28am@ LUKERW..We will live on the New Earth, in our New bodies, in the New Jerusalem. We don’t go to some city in the sky. The New Jerusalem comes down from heaven to the earth.
Report Post »Rev 3:12 Him that overcometh will I make a pillar in the temple of my God, and he shall go no more out: and I will write upon him the name of my God, and the name of the city of my God, which is new Jerusalem, which cometh down out of heaven from my God: and I will write upon him my new name.
Diego Roswell
Posted on November 26, 2011 at 12:48pm2 Timothy 3
1 But mark this: There will be terrible times in the last days. 2 People will be lovers of themselves, lovers of money, boastful, proud, abusive, disobedient to their parents, ungrateful, unholy, 3 without love, unforgiving, slanderous, without self-control, brutal, not lovers of the good, 4 treacherous, rash, conceited, lovers of pleasure rather than lovers of God— 5 having a form of godliness but denying its power. Have nothing to do with such people.
Report Post »Al J Zira
Posted on November 26, 2011 at 12:10amIt doesn’t matter if the world ends in 2012 or 5012. Live every day like it‘s your last and you’re going to meet God and you’ll be fine.
Report Post »Quagaar Warrior
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AMEN!
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This_Individual
Posted on November 26, 2011 at 12:30amVery enlightened Al. Please do not take this offensively (as I repect your religion an especially your God), but this person who believes in the existance of more than one God is with you one that.
Report Post »lukerw
Posted on November 26, 2011 at 12:36amIt is not the “End Of The World” — It is the End of a Cycle (the Long Count), where every Ending creates a New Begining!
Report Post »AmericanPatriot01
Posted on November 26, 2011 at 5:27amThe Mayan/Aztec calendar ends because of the disparity after the effects of the transistion through the gravitational field of the event horizen of the universal black hole. The caledar woud then need to be re-created to represent the new standard day and year, to represent the passage of time and the cycles of the stars and planets as they settle into their new orbits.
Report Post »lukerw
Posted on November 26, 2011 at 8:25pm@AmericanPatriot01
Report Post »LOL :)
KingCanon
Posted on November 26, 2011 at 12:10amHmmmmmm.
Report Post »Stoic one
Posted on November 26, 2011 at 12:09amThis ,like Yellowstone or an asteroid, are things I can do nothing about. So I will continue to chop wood and carry water.
Report Post »lukerw
Posted on November 26, 2011 at 12:41amThis prophecy is about… the coming of Bolon Yokte, the god of war… so I suggest you buy some ammo!
Report Post »RushEcho2
Posted on November 26, 2011 at 7:32amPerhaps their calendar will start over, just like our calendar starts over.
Report Post »AmazingGrace8
Posted on November 26, 2011 at 10:05amObey God and leave all the consequences to Him.
Report Post »Robert-CA
Posted on November 26, 2011 at 12:07amI first heard about this , was in 1986 the world was gonna end , then it moved to 1998 , them it moved to 2000 , then it moved to 2004 , then it moved to 10/10/2010 & now 2012 … & then it moved to 2020 Then it moved to to 2030 then & then … they never get tired .
Report Post »lukerw
Posted on November 26, 2011 at 12:13amThis is the Myan Prophecy… which is unrelated to the other predictions and dates that you mentioned!
Report Post »82dAirborne
Posted on November 26, 2011 at 12:39amI believe it’s poppycock. (I have always wanted to use the word poppycock!) BUT – the Mayans had their stuff together. They made the Greeks look like dopes! I guess we will see in a year & change; if we last that long.
Report Post »The10thAmendment
Posted on November 26, 2011 at 12:46amThe world doesn’t end, the age does. The geometric knowledge applied to astronomy of the Mayans, is the same as the Egyptians, which is the same as the Chaldeans (from which Abram came from). Using that is also how the “Magi” understood when the birth of Christ would be. Earlier civilizations understood the rhythm of the cosmos and how it applied to physical man a lot better than we did. They were hardly idiots.
Anyway, it’s the end of the age, not end of the world.
Report Post »Falsegods
Posted on November 26, 2011 at 12:52amThey are the British Empire ? Quote from La Rouche “Now this is being set up by the British Empire, and nobody else. And nobody else. If you don’t think the British Empire is the enemy, you don’t understand the ABCs of the situation.
“A war now, do you know what it means? Do you know what thermonuclear weapons mean? Do you realize that what’s going on in the Middle East, so-called, cannot be waged by anything other than nuclear weapons? This also means thermonuclear weapons?
UK gave /lost two of their nukes? InfoWars news
Report Post »1casawizard
Posted on November 26, 2011 at 12:52amThe world’s gonna end tomorrow. Make sure your bills are paid. Maybe be paid up and prayed-up.
Report Post »phillipwgirard
Posted on November 26, 2011 at 12:57am@82ndairborn Good to see you back, and i agree once again, IF WE LAST THAT LONG
Report Post »GumRock
Posted on November 26, 2011 at 12:48pmhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OVtinv5LSnE
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