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Anti-Abortion Plans Pose Dilemma for Republicans

WASHINGTON (AP) — Restrict abortion or cut spending?

The Republicans’ “Pledge for America” says the new majority will do both. But negotiations over the federal budget threaten to force the GOP, including its 87 House freshmen, to choose between them.

It’s a lesson in congressional reality that has Republicans struggling with how to vote — and what to do — when a divided government pits pledge against pledge.

“That’s a problem – and I mean, a real problem,” said Ohio Rep. Jim Jordan, chairman of the conservative Republican Study Committee’s budget and spending task force.

How would he vote on a budget that cuts spending but lacks the promised abortion restrictions? Jordan winces.

“We haven’t seen the finished product,” he said.

The House last month passed its version of the budget that would fund the government through September. The measure would cut spending by $61 billion and prohibit federal dollars from going to Planned Parenthood as long as the organization performs abortions. It also reinstates restrictions, lifted by President Barack Obama, on government money for any organization that funds abortions in foreign countries.

The abortion restrictions have almost no chance of being included in the spending plan that the Democrat-dominated Senate ultimately passes. That could be weeks from now despite a March 18 deadline that carries with it the threat of a partial government shutdown.

A compromise that could pass both the House and Senate will contain at least a good portion of the cuts that now-GOP freshmen promised during the campaign and say their constituents loudly demand. Slashing federal spending, they insist, is their No. 1 priority.

Restricting federal money for abortion providers comes a close second or third, as much a part of the GOP’s campaign “Pledge” as spending cuts and repealing Obama’s health care overhaul.

The new Republican majority has done plenty of fighting for what they promised, but getting their wish list through the entire Congress is a tougher task. The health care law repeal failed in the Senate. The House’s budget received a thorough scoffing from Senate Democratic leaders and Obama said he would veto it.

House Republicans say just having their debate last month went a long way toward satisfying their campaign promises.

In an emotional overnight session on the current year’s budget, the House voted 240-185 to block federal dollars from going to Planned Parenthood.

There was more.

The spending bill, before any amendments, reinstated a prohibition on federal money for any organization that uses its own funds for abortions performed in foreign countries. Obama lifted the restrictions in 2009.

Under current law, federal dollars may not be used for abortions except in the cases of rape, incest or when the life of the mother is in danger.

Pro-choice lawmakers and groups said the Republican efforts on abortion amount to an attack on women and family-planning services. Democrats make the case that while Planned Parenthood performs abortions, the group uses federal money on health services for women who can’t afford it any other way.

Planned Parenthood has undertaken a formidable lobbying campaign to kick out the restrictions from the Senate bill.

Watching the negotiations from the House, some social conservatives were uncomfortable even talking about how they would vote should a newly negotiated budget pass the Senate and come to the House without the anti-abortion provisions.

If they vote against the new version, they also would say no to spending cuts they demanded.

If they vote for it, they would ditch, for now, the party’s anti-abortion promises.

Rep. Chris Smith, perhaps the House’s most fervently anti-abortion member, said he‘d vote against any budget that doesn’t “preserve life.” Blocking money for Planned Parenthood also cuts spending, said Smith, R-N.J.

“There’s no reason to be divided. These are twin objectives,” Smith said, predicting many Republican freshmen opposed to abortion will vote with him.

Freshman Rep. David Schweikert, R-Ariz., isn’t one of them. He opposes abortion. But he said he’d vote for a budget that lacks new restrictions on the procedure because current law already bans federal dollars from being used for most abortions. Banning taxpayer dollars from going to Planned Parenthood, he said, should be a battle for another day if it comes to a choice.

“If we’re staying with that current policy, I think we’d still be safe,” Schweikert said. “Because for me, it’s substantially about the fiscal position” he took in last year’s elections when it came to reining in the federal deficit.

Comments (91)

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  • gehnipenny
    Posted on March 5, 2011 at 11:33pm

    VerySeniorCitizen,
    I get your frustration, and I am glad you feel such compassion. However, those of us who are pro-life see the life of a fetus exactly as we see the life of any person. Therefore, how could you expect us to feel any differently than we do? The bill to de-fund planned parenthood was contingent on them performing abortions. If they stop, they will more than likely get there funding back. The issue is, abortions are profitable. No one here is saying they don’t agree with health services for women, we are merely saying the price is far too high. To justify this genocide with mammograms and pap smears is not going to change what is morally right. We MUST protect life in it’s most precious, defenseless form.
    Someone made a comment that stated something along the lines of being pro-life, we should be against the death penalty. The death of a baby by the hands of it’s mother is nowhere near the same. To murder an innocent is inexcusable. Death penalty for a horrific crime is justice.

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    • manhattan_MD
      Posted on March 7, 2011 at 9:12am

      No, they wouldn’t get their money back, because Title X is on the chopping block too.

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  • Ronko
    Posted on March 5, 2011 at 11:32pm

    This isn’t a Dilemma for the Republicans, you don’t do anything dealing with Abortion for now until the Repubs control both houses of congress. Also we have more important things to deal with like the Debt.

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    • Phil E. Stine
      Posted on March 5, 2011 at 11:54pm

      I tell you sir, there is NOTHING more important on Gods green earth, than the life of an innocent baby.

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    • Phil E. Stine
      Posted on March 5, 2011 at 11:59pm

      BS.

      This is not something to kick down the road like George Bush did. When they DID have the super-majority, they didn’t do crap.

      How dare you suggest that money is more important than an innocent baby.

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    • Phil E. Stine
      Posted on March 6, 2011 at 12:02am

      Sorry for the double. I was being censored, so I re-worded the first one. Lo and behold when I re-post, my original shows back up!

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  • gehnipenny
    Posted on March 5, 2011 at 11:21pm

    Matthew 6:33 (New King James Version)
    But seek first the kingdom of God and His righteousness, and all these things shall be added to you.

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    • sodizzy
      Posted on March 6, 2011 at 2:01am

      Amen! my whole life has changed with this scripture.

      I used to circulate petitions for women to have legalized abortions but now I know better. I even got to see an ectopic pregnancy that did not survive. A complete human being about the size of a walnut, and they had told me it was “just a blob of tissue” Liars.

      They rehearsed me in hysterical catastrophic outcomes about back alleys and drastic situations, now it has been spread to women in general, apparently supposedly unable to nurse or go to a doctor.

      I can hardly wait until our money is no longer used for murdering babies, as that is what abortion truly is, and there’s no way to justify it. I say, though, leave it legal just so that those who will can do it in a reasonable medical setting. Abortion seems to be part of the human condition. I just don’t want to aid and abet any more.

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  • Amos37
    Posted on March 5, 2011 at 11:13pm

    Too many people think of the body as “their body”. The body is a temple for the Spirit of God to dwell in, and is not to be used to destroy any of his creation or creations. Why don’t people just look to His Word for answers? Oh yeah, then they might have to repent and look to the TRUE God for the answers instead of thinking themselves as a god who understands with His help. You gain understanding through His Word, no other way. He told us it would be this way, though, so we can only expect it to get worse. Fight for truth, no matter how bleak it looks because of the sin so prevalent all around us.

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  • 13thGenerationAmerican
    Posted on March 5, 2011 at 10:55pm

    Here’s how you reduce the budget. This will shock you though

    http://costofwar.com/en/

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  • Lone-Wolf
    Posted on March 5, 2011 at 10:38pm

    60 Billion? whatever happened to Rand Paul‘s 500 billion that didn’t even touch The entitlement Programs? Oh that’s right frauds like Allen West,Marlin Stutzman, and Michelle Bachmann Like Bloated Bureaucracy now that they’re in charge.

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  • dcwu
    Posted on March 5, 2011 at 10:19pm

    Cut spending. Cut the debt ceiling. CUT.

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  • papagreggin
    Posted on March 5, 2011 at 10:06pm

    I will never understand why a mother can terminate a child’s life, and it’s her right. But if the father terminates the child’s life, it is murder. Murder is murder!

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    • walkwithme1966
      Posted on March 5, 2011 at 10:35pm

      I don’t understand being against abortion – which is killing, and yet being for the death penalty as well as for wars that kill more innocents than abortion does! Killing is killing – no matter what the situation. Stop funding for abortion and stop funding for wars. But then I am just an evil liberal what do I know!!
      http://wp.me/pYLB7-Il

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    • onegodinkansas
      Posted on March 5, 2011 at 11:14pm

      @walkwithme It‘s called ’innocent party’.

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    • Mil Mom
      Posted on March 6, 2011 at 1:53am

      The difference originally was whether the child was inside the womb, or outside it, but then the haters of life got braver and more deranged, and we got partial birth abortion and the most painful of procedures was performed on a live baby, no anesthesia, when only the head was still inside the womb. I heard a b.o. speech where he said of a baby and it’s parents, ” …and they bring it home, and after 2-3 years it becomes a human being. (( Now that’s frightening from someone shepherding the ObamaCare monstrosity!!! ))

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    • Mil Mom
      Posted on March 6, 2011 at 2:10am

      @walkwithme1966
      Posted on March 5, 2011 at 10:35pm
      I don’t understand being against abortion – which is killing, and yet being for the death penalty as well as for wars that kill more innocents than abortion does! Killing is killing – no matter what the situation. Stop funding for abortion and stop funding for wars. But then I am just an evil liberal what do I know!!

      ***************
      With the death penalty,someone has been tried, and convicted of a horrific crime. An unborn child is innocent of any crime, if that’s not a huge difference, you need to get glasses so you can see it. As far as wars are concerned, America is very slow to go to war, ( remember the 9/11 commission said “they were at war with us but we weren’t at war with them”.) and very anxious to declare peace (just look at Korea and Viet Nam if you doubt this) but sometimes, the only way to stop enemies of humanity is for freedom lovers and compassionate people to stand up and put their lives on the line to protect the weak. DON‘T TELL ME SOLDIERS AREN’T COMPASSIONATE PEOPLE, I HAPPEN TO KNOW MANY OF THEM PERSONALLY, AND IF THEY WEREN‘T THEY’D CERTAINLY HAVE EASIER WAYS TO SUPPORT THEMSELVES AND THEIR FAMILIES WITHOUT THE HARDSHIPS. REMEMBER WE HAVE AN ALL VOLUNTEER ARMY, SO THOSE PUTTING THEIR LIVES AT RISK, ARE DOING SO. SO THAT YOU WILL HAVE THE LIBERTY TO COMPLAIN ABOUT GOVERNMENT POLICIES, OR EVEN demonstrate against them. (Not worthy of caps!!!) (( My favorite soldier and I were talking about the Westboro hate group which calls themselves a church. He said, “I disagree totally with them and think they’re idiots, BUT I’M WILLING TO DIE FOR THEIR RIGHT TO MAKE IDIOTS OF THEMSELVES !!!! )) That’s compassion!

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  • Lone Ranger
    Posted on March 5, 2011 at 9:55pm

    Using federal money to subsidize abortion would be like using taxpayer funds to subsidize slavery — both democrat crimes against humanity. Let’s compromise. Let’s use federal funds to subsidize only the abortion of black babies. Outrageous? Not really. Moderate Republicans wanted to compromise with democrats and not end slavery, but restrict it to the South. Luckily “Radical Republicans” won the argument and slavery was outlawed. Now, democrats are using the same language to condemn “radical Republicans” who want to end this latest evil from the Democrats.

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  • maumau
    Posted on March 5, 2011 at 9:16pm

    what do you expect this is the man who said, “… I dont want my daught to be punished with a baby…” this is of course in regards to his daughter haveing an accidental pregnancy. no just get rid of it, thats enough of a punishment thanks father of the year…

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    • Mil Mom
      Posted on March 6, 2011 at 1:42am

      Imagine what his daughters will think when they read that speech somewhere as teens. That’s like dad saying, “kids are too much trouble.” Talk about destroying his daughters’ self esteem, they‘ll wonder if that’s how, he and mom felt about them.

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  • hownowbrownmao
    Posted on March 5, 2011 at 9:15pm

    let it burn let it burn let it burn wanna wanna let it burn

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  • Stopit
    Posted on March 5, 2011 at 9:00pm

    Let’s see…the risk is the Repugnants won’t get to cut 3.8% of 1 year’s deficit spending…or approximately 1.7% of the total budget for one year. Real bold, brash fiscally conservative action that we don’t want to compromise on!!! Why if we don’t get to do that our fiscal house will fall of the cliff.

    I don’t know what kind of koolaide they drink…

    Why don’t we STOP SPENDING MORE THAN WE TAKE IN RIGHT NOW! And FORGET A BALANCED BUDGET AMENDMENT…WE NEED AN UNBALANCED BUDGET AMENDMENT SO WE SPEND AT LEAST A TRILLION DOLLARS LESS A YEAR THAN WE TAKE IN AND PAY OFF THE DEBT IN 15 YEARS.

    Now if that were the proposal there might be some concern about risk of jeapardizing something that would actually fiscally mean something. Otherwise, the whole condemned argument is nothing more than debating over rearranging the deck chairs on the Titanic before it goes under.

    There is no moral stand in Washington, or for that matter this nation as a whole. So you can forget worrying whether the killing of the innocent is going to “move” Washington Repugnants. That‘s why we’re going down the tubes. AMOS 4:12

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  • miles from nowhere
    Posted on March 5, 2011 at 8:31pm

    The republicans are not shutting down Planned Parenthood, just cutting the tax payer funded part through no more govn. funding. Planned Parenthood can carry on just like any other private business. There is nothing to feel guilty about on the republicans part, so defund the mess.

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    • restorehope
      Posted on March 5, 2011 at 11:06pm

      That is so true. The libs twist the truth to say that Planned Parenthood would be shut down so that they get more sympathy for their argument. It was the same subterfuge used when ACORN had its federal funds withdrawn. ACORN did not go out of business, as they have plenty of private funding to keep them up to who-knows-what.

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  • IntrepidSI
    Posted on March 5, 2011 at 8:12pm

    !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!Hot news flash for the Republican Party!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    I don‘t give a rat’s ass about social isses! Your one and only focus now and in the 2012 election is JOBS! (And defunding Obamacare until the courts stop it because that is a job killer) You want to work on abortion? Do it when you have secured a hold on power, not before!

    !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!Another Hot News Flash to the Republican Party!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    Mitt Romney: That ship has sailed. Go Home! After MassCare, you are unelectable!
    Sarah Palin: Keep cheerleading for the Party, but stay the hell out of the race. You are a good member, but as the nominee, you can’t win. Please, stay out.
    Newt Gingrich: I like you, your the smartest person about Washington I know. Work on explaining your personal problems away or asking that they be forgiven by the public and you have a chance.

    Bobby Jihndal, you would make an excellent VP Pick. You’re young, and smart and now how to get things done!
    Huckabee, stay home. Your little “second wedding” to get lobby money won‘t fly well in the public and you’re about as charismatic as Pelosi, which is to say not at all.

    McCain: Your service to this country is second to none, but don’t even think about it. I am doing you a favor. You would be dead halfway thru the first term. You have gotten past your expiration date.

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    • Stopit
      Posted on March 5, 2011 at 9:07pm

      I Don’t trust Newt. He’s been a member of the Council on Foreign Relations, along with all the other One Worlders, and Washington insiders.

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  • The Gooch
    Posted on March 5, 2011 at 7:48pm

    Like the marriage argument (for gays), this should be a state issue. The Hyde Amendment establishes as much. It’s not the federal governments mandate to support “choice”. The busy bodies on both sides need to shut the hell up and support their sacred cows with their own money, not mine or my neighbors’. So damn tired of pro-abortion propenents using ham-fisted guilt plays against the constituency… shut the hell up and put your money where your mouths are. When tax payer dollars are at play, it’s really not a “choice”, is it?

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  • grandpaof7
    Posted on March 5, 2011 at 7:44pm

    Why don’t the women just keep their legs closed? Last time I checked it is up to the woman if she wants to have sex. God help all those who have abortions and especially those who perform them. More importantly, may God bless those babies we have killed.

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    • Mil Mom
      Posted on March 6, 2011 at 1:33am

      @grandpaof7
      You must not have read the rape statistics for America recently. In a perfect world it would be up to a woman, but date rape where a dreamy teen or young woman makes the mistake of thinking she has the say and discovers too late she was terribly wrong, is one of the fastest growing crimes in this country.

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    • John Valentine
      Posted on March 7, 2011 at 6:35pm

      First, invite the boy in, and talk to him. The girl’s father is cleaning his gun, when he addresses the lad. “So your taking my liittle girl out, huh?“ The boy answers ”Yes, sir.” Man, “You got a cell phone?” Boy:”Yes, sir.” Father:”Leave the number with the Missus. I did mention that we love our daughter? Oh you’ll have her home by ten, then. When you walk her to the door, I’ll see you.”
      If Boy says anything else, it will also be followed by “Yes, sir.”

      That should put the relationship on the right footing anyways.

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  • YouGottaProblemWithThat
    Posted on March 5, 2011 at 7:27pm

    @VerySeniorCitizen – I remember that the old time mobsters used to take some of the money that they had gotten through murder for hire, extortion, racketeering, prostitution and drug sales and give generously to the church and to the community. Each accepted it with a wink and a nod. Why care if the money was tainted, now it can do some good, right? Why care if Planned Parenthood kills babies in the womb? If a baby is fortunate enough to make it out, they’ll take good care of them and mom too. What…really?

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    • VerySeniorCitizen
      Posted on March 5, 2011 at 7:44pm

      So I guess you would have had a problem with the church (which accepted that money) helping a mother-to-be and the baby survive the delivery – because of where the money came from??

      And you REALLY think that is a Pro-Life attitude??

      I know, I know. “If your church has a ‘social program’ RUN as fast as you can- and find another church” Now where have I heard that before?

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    • onegodinkansas
      Posted on March 5, 2011 at 11:13pm

      Adolf Hitler had a good thing going w/ his highway system & the Volkswagen, there was just that nagging little drawback of the Holocaust…

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    • Mil Mom
      Posted on March 6, 2011 at 1:25am

      @VERYSENIORCITIZEN
      I know, I know. “If your church has a ‘social program’ RUN as fast as you can- and find another church” Now where have I heard that before?

      ****************
      You need to have your hearing checked, Glenn has no problem with the churches having social programs, after all, our Lord, said that we were to do as He did, and he helped many. The problem is with Social Justice, that’s taking from those who earn it, and giving to those who don‘t because it’s not right for some to have and others to be without. Social Justice isn’t about helping those in need, nearly as much as defining some as Needy, and then just giving them everything, without attempting to teach them, how to provide and care for themselves.
      True Church Social Programs, would never condemn to death an unborn child, but rather help the mother to find loving care during the pregnancy, and, if she chooses, helping to find adoptive parents; if not helping her to find a way to support herself and the child.
      I know this to be so, because I have a dear friend involved in just such a Christian ministry, supported by many churches.

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    • Rev. John
      Posted on March 6, 2011 at 3:05am

      A funny thing this. Has anyone noticed that every person
      that supports abortion has been born alive????

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    • kaydeebeau
      Posted on March 6, 2011 at 7:17am

      @verysenior…There is a HUGE difference between donations to Church / charitable orgs than taking tax dollars. You are free to donate as much $$ as you want to Planned Parenthood. I don’t want my $$ going there.

      I find it odd that PP “claims” to be about providing birth control and other “kindly” services yet they must not be very good at the birth control thing part since the bulk of their business is “abortions”. If their goal were truley to prevent unwanted preganancies as they claim – they are doing a piss poor job at that. I rather think they are in the abortion business and it is a BIG $$ maker for them

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    • suhl
      Posted on March 7, 2011 at 12:43am

      @Rev John
      You, sir, have no proof of that! Well I guess clinically they are alive but brain death was a birth defect.

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  • DaveOregon
    Posted on March 5, 2011 at 7:22pm

    Planned Parenthood should receive no $$ from the Feds period. States musts make up that slack or local communities. It‘s none of the Federal governments’ business – and that’s what everyone forgets – the Federal government needs to step out of the day in-day out control of your lives – because it has the FEDERAL Power of the courts, the DOJ, FBI, etc. behind it. State’s would have more money for such things and run it locally as the voters deem they want it – different from one state to the other – if they did not send so much of the State $$$ to Washington!

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  • pma_guy
    Posted on March 5, 2011 at 7:14pm

    Hey Scott, it’s PRO – LIFE !

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    • onegodinkansas
      Posted on March 5, 2011 at 11:07pm

      Exactly. An abortion does not keep you from becoming a parent, it makes you the parent of a dead child.

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  • staxmarshall
    Posted on March 5, 2011 at 6:38pm

    Dear Conservatives: Always give first place to tackling the moral or social topic (in this case, abortion) and the other things (the financial stuff) will follow. Do the opposite and lose on both.

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  • Hugie 59 PA
    Posted on March 5, 2011 at 6:26pm

    Republicans, stand up for the conservative agenda which represents 42% of the citizenry while liberals represent a little over 20%. STAND FIRM!

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    • Mil Mom
      Posted on March 6, 2011 at 1:03am

      @Nigel2
      And if it falls then how much will we be able to do for the unborn or anyone else?
      **********
      And while you’re having your say, somewhere in America, the most fragile of Future American Voters, are being murdered in a horrifically cruel and savage manner, by someone who claims all the accolades of Dr.

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  • satotbs
    Posted on March 5, 2011 at 6:15pm

    once again mired down in legal gobble-de-****. NO public money for abortions period!
    Or is it okay to say I wont let my kids do drugs, but I will give them away to other kids as long as they have a Drs. Note. (I understand you can get them in Wisconsin for free as well). God please be merciful with us

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  • chickenfried
    Posted on March 5, 2011 at 5:52pm

    Cut up the credit cards, hide the checkbook, stick a little under the mattress and wisely invest the rest…It works for $100 and it will work for a trillion…it just takes cahones.

    Then we’ll take the money away from the baby killers…and maybe put a few of them in the pokey.

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  • Showtime
    Posted on March 5, 2011 at 5:30pm

    I don’t want my federal tax dollars funding Planned Parenthood period – and/or abortions.

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    • 1TrueOne55
      Posted on March 5, 2011 at 6:03pm

      If Planned ParentHood needs money to fund its operations it needs to get it from “Private” sources since they refuse to give Woman a True “Choice”.

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    • Marylou7
      Posted on March 5, 2011 at 6:13pm

      It is against God to fund abortions and as long as our country is going against God this mess will never be cleaned up.

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    • VerySeniorCitizen
      Posted on March 5, 2011 at 7:22pm

      Such a GOOD person you are!! NOT!

      But then, you don’t care about all the good things that Planned Parenthood has done and is doing for women who really want to birth their baby, but fear for their own life – and therefore the life of their baby – because they can’t get to see a nurse or doctor – even while giving birth. You see, SHOWTIME there are some women who are poor, but I guess that’s OK, they can give birth under a bridge and the baby will die anyway. You really have NO IDEA the horrors that happen to poor women – including homelessness and starvation because they can’t get the right food to feed two lives. Oh, I’m sorry, I wouldn’t want to insult your selfishness.

      You obviously have been fortunate because you can’t – or won’t think outside the box and without the programs supplied by Planned Parenthood there would be multiple deaths. You see, SHOWTIME I have lived in places where pre-natal care was nonexistent and the percentage of deaths – both mother AND child was horrific. But I guess you have already turned a blind eye to this post!

      Have a nice evening!

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    • riseandshine
      Posted on March 5, 2011 at 10:02pm

      very senior…we don’t want a cent of our money going to PP…get it? you can go promote for PP all day..more power to you…why you choose this forum to do it is beyond me

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    • Non-sequitur
      Posted on March 6, 2011 at 8:33am

      “It is against God to fund abortions and as long as our country is going against God this mess will never be cleaned up.”

      Abortions receive no public funding and never have.

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  • Lana40
    Posted on March 5, 2011 at 5:22pm

    For once I’d like to see the Republicans stand by their principles and not give in. Ya think the Democrats give in? Heck no…….that‘s why we’re in the shape we’re in. No matter how bad they’re pushed, they stand by their liberal agenda.
    If we don’t make drastic changes, we’ll lose our country.
    STAND STRONG!!!!!!!

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    • juneau
      Posted on March 5, 2011 at 5:37pm

      I agree, LANA40. If you can’t have it both ways, then vote for LIFE first, and THEN worry about cutting the budget. God says, “Stand,” and we will be protected by His full armor. But we must first STAND.

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    • cheezwhiz
      Posted on March 5, 2011 at 6:03pm

      I agree. I’ve never ever seen marxists choose to be pro-America if they have to choose between that and harming our country . . They double down on it and justify it by calling us racists, fascists and bigots.
      Well now its time to be pro-life . If everything else falls, we can wait for 2012. We’ll have to cleanup their cr@p anyway .

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    • P C BE DAMNED
      Posted on March 5, 2011 at 6:30pm

      We want our representatives to stand on principles and vote against the murder of innocent people. These are people just like us. They have different chromosomes than the father and different than the mother, thus being an individual and no part of the mothers own body. If we cannot understand the simple truth of life as opposed to murder of innocent human beings and there is no argument as important as these little ones. Then we are doomed as a people. And I say lets stand for something and not compromise at all. If we lose everything then it will be well worth it. We will be standing with the true GOD and he can literally make rivers run backwards mountains move to another place. This is our GOD. And to denote him from other gods. He has an only son named Jesus. When we stop compromising where there is no compromise, we will win.Thank You.

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    • Dale
      Posted on March 5, 2011 at 6:41pm

      Lana40;

      I agree and disagree with your statement. The dems/progressives are very willing to compromise. They simply don’t give up. They get 10% of what they want this year, 30% the next, until they finally have what they want. On the other hand, since I/We oppose their agenda, we loose a little every time there is a compromise. THERE IS NO COMPROMISING with someone who wants to destroy you!

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    • jsDway
      Posted on March 5, 2011 at 6:42pm

      If we don’t stand for LIFE – our country will be forever distroyed! We always vote for our pocketbooks, but it is the moral issues that our Heavenly Father is looking at. If the CHURCH doesn’t stand for the things that really matter for a free nation to survive – then we will surely fall.
      IF WE VOTE LIFE AND MORALS – THE MONEY PROBLEMS WILL BE SOLVED! I know it sounds a little simple – BUT IT IS JUST THAT SIMPLE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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    • Stuck_in_CA
      Posted on March 5, 2011 at 6:53pm

      THE most important thing to Demoncrats is being able to kill babies. They’ll fight for that more than anything. Wonder if they’ve ever asked themselves what God thinks about that?
      GOP, DE-FUND Planned Parenthood!!!

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    • VerySeniorCitizen
      Posted on March 5, 2011 at 7:07pm

      JUNEAU, Isn‘t it just great when you decide to ’vote for life’ in the womb, but ignore the needs of babies and children after they LEAVE the womb. Planned Parenthood does so many things for women who can’t get their needs elsewhere!

      Like what? you ask.

      OK,

      1. Pre-natal care for the expectant mother – including (but not limited to) regular examinations, pelvic exams, pap smears, mammograms, weight control, ultrasound – ALL of which help ensure a healthy baby.

      1. Post Part-um depression counseling when the mother can’t care for the child – after birth.

      2. Lactation problems in the mother – meaning the baby doesn’t get fed.

      3. HIV testing to ensure a healthy baby

      Etc, etc..

      But maybe none of that matters because the pregnant women are poor!! Why the HELL should you care about the mother OR the child AFTER the child is born??

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    • Robert-CA
      Posted on March 5, 2011 at 7:16pm

      How about lawmakers watch some sonograms before murdering babies .

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    • Dale
      Posted on March 5, 2011 at 7:21pm

      VerySeniorCitizen;

      You apparently have not heard about adoption. It is so much easier and more humane to simply destroy live.

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    • jhaydeng
      Posted on March 5, 2011 at 7:32pm

      Defund Planned Parenthood!

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    • Robert-CA
      Posted on March 5, 2011 at 7:33pm

      @ VERYSENIORCITIZEN
      I don’t have issues with helping a poor mom to take care of her child , if their program is helping poor families that’s fine with me , what’s not fine with me is abortion , I have a big problem with that because I don’t want to fund a criminal act .

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    • VerySeniorCitizen
      Posted on March 5, 2011 at 7:35pm

      Dale, I guess you didn’t read my whole post. I agree with you that certain children can be adopted – but ONLY if they are healthy. If an expectant mother isn’t able to get pre-natal care the possibility that the child will not be healthy at birth (if it lives at all) is slim. But poor pregnant women should just ‘tough it out’. Right??

      Have you read any history. You really should read about this country’s pioneers. Yes, the women gave birth to multiple children, but because medical care wasn‘t always available a vast majority of them didn’t survive – and an many cases neither did the mother.

      Are the words ‘I WANT MY COUNTRY BACK’ referring to those days? Kind of one stop forward – ten steps backwards!!

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    • Dustyluv
      Posted on March 5, 2011 at 8:14pm

      Women have a choice to have sex or not. No murdering babies with my dime and they can raise their own kids. What the hell is wrong with that? Why the heck do I have to pay to raise them? Cut them all off! If we dont. no one will have anything at all…Is that what you Libs want? What is wrong with PERSONAL responsibility?

      I am tired of feeding the poor slobs and want to have MY tax dollars to help who I want to help!!! I can do more good with it than the frigging government can!

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    • cheezwhiz
      Posted on March 5, 2011 at 8:20pm

      @ VerySeniorCitizen
      Why do illegals from all over the world want to get into our countries and have a baby ?
      NOT abortion, but a baby ? And then do ANYTHING to NEVER leave our country ?
      What do welfare queens keep having babies ?
      Who do you think ALL welfare queens and illegals with anchor-babies vote for ?

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    • HillBillySam1
      Posted on March 5, 2011 at 8:22pm

      @VERYSENIORCITIZEN
      If Planned Parenthood ONLY did those things that you have claimed, then I would not have a problem with 360 million dollars going to them every year. The preservation of life and the promotion of healthy pregnancies are things that should be commended and supported…….but that is not all that Planned Parenthood provides, is it? They are the #1 abortion provider in the United States……they have performed more than 300,000 abortions alone in the last year……do you support that barbaric cruelty that those innocent children go thru?? From reading your posts on this page, it seems like you, and most Progressives, hide behind your own cloak of “compassion” by claiming that all of these services are for the “poor”…..which they are not……affluent women use Planned Parenthood services so that they can keep their abortions “private”……if you want to contribute your own money to Planned Parenthood, then more power to you……..but before you lecture someone on their lack of compassion, think about that child who is burned chemically, dismembered in it‘s own mother’s womb, or has a metal rod jammed thru the base of it’s skull just prior to the brains being suctioned out……please give liberally…….

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    • cheezwhiz
      Posted on March 5, 2011 at 8:31pm

      @ HillBillySam1
      Have you noticed the ridiculously high salaries of PP execs ?
      Why do taxpayers have to pay them so much ? Its not like PP generates revenue for taxpayers .
      I’m sure there must be some libidiots who will do the same job for 1/10 of the current salaries of PP officials.
      Shared sacrifice, everybody gets a hair-cut and so on and so forth

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    • Nobamazone
      Posted on March 5, 2011 at 8:56pm

      @verysenior
      there are plenty of places besides pp that give all of that care to woman and babies, AND don’t kill any of them on purpose, lets fund those places instead hey? or maybe those places don’t matter huh? or better yet, lets have the government get the heck out of it and let the church take care of the poor and needy like God said, even better! but guess that does not matter hummm?

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    • Nobamazone
      Posted on March 5, 2011 at 8:58pm

      also verysenior
      I DO care for the woman, the children and also the woman and families suffering from the damage of an abortion, even years later, I still care for them, all of them
      how about you? or just easier to call it a “choice” and be done with it??

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    • thegrassroots
      Posted on March 5, 2011 at 8:59pm

      It’s A No Brainer, Republicans! ALWAYS VOTE PRO-LIFE! God Will Take Care Of The Rest!

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    • Mil Mom
      Posted on March 6, 2011 at 12:51am

      Do you suppose Clinton’s anxiety to map the human genome was all about finding the DNA marker that controls conservatism. After all, if half the abortions or more were future conservative voters, they might truly be a majority someday and be even more open about their philosophy.

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    • lisalake
      Posted on March 6, 2011 at 5:51am

      Maybe the chichen-s**t republicans should argue that it offensive to muslims??? That will probably solve the problem….. “Kill not your offspring for fear of poverty; it is We who provide for them and for you. Surely, killing them is a great sin.” Qur’an 17:32
      ….well, truly, they can’t make up their mind either….http://www.bbc.co.uk/religion/religions/islam/islamethics/abortion_1.shtml
      Stand with GOD on this one, boys and girls….

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    • mck05002
      Posted on March 6, 2011 at 3:40pm

      @ Veryseniorcitizen
      Actually PP never gave mammograms or offered them at a discount. They have added it to their budget this coming fiscal year, so that when their budget gets cut, they can say that now more women will get breast cancer because they can’t get tested. Also we can comepletely cut federal funding to PP and still get women all of those services and more…..have you heard of WIC? They are a federal program that supplies poor women and familes with milk, eggs, bread, cereal, formula, cheese and fresh fruits and baby food. They give this food to women for the length of the pregnancy and as long as she breastfeeds and from the time the baby is in the womb until the child is 6. It also requires the women to attend nutrition classes and health classes. The children are offered free blood iron and lead tests. There are discount vaccines available. Women can also apply for reduced price medical services (i.e. pap smear, STD testing etc.) WOW so instead of counseling women to kill their babies, we can feed them and their children and provide them with reduced rate medical services…WOW….remind me why we need PP again?

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    • juneau
      Posted on March 6, 2011 at 7:14pm

      @veryseniorcitizen…since your comments were directed to me, I would just like to ask you one thing: If Planned Parenthood cared SOOOOO MUCH for all those poor women who would stop receiving all that reproductive care if PP were shut down, then WHY doesn’t Planned Parenthood open clinics offering ONLY things legally funded by taxpayers (i.e., preventative care, paps, etc.), keeping these services SEPARATE from the clinics that offer abortions? If no federal money is to legally be spent on abortions, then it seems to me that these two directives of the organization should be kept separate anyway, just for accounting’s sake. But, alas, NO. So, who’s REALLY stopping all these women from receiving reproductive care? That’s right! PP is because they cannot turn off the federal money spout funding abortion. PP is acting illegally, and taxpayers are paying for hundreds of thousands of abortions annually. If all those abortions are *truly* not funded by taxpayer money, then PP can open their abortion clinics across the street, and all those poor women can still get their pap smears…maybe they could even start providing mammograms since some taxpayer $$ would be freed up!

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