Anti-Bullying Crusader Attacks the Bible and Curses Christian Teens During High School Speech
- Posted on April 28, 2012 at 11:52am by
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Dan Savage, the founder of an anti-bullying campaign that has reportedly reached more than 40 million viewers, and has contributors that include President Obama to Hollywood stars, dove into unexpected territory while giving a speech at a high school journalism conference Friday.
There, instead the planned discussion on the dangers of bullying, Savage seemingly turned into a “bully” himself, albeit a powerful, adult one.
Reports say Savage’s speech quickly turned from the subject of anti-bullying into an event in “Christian-bashing,” causing as many as 100 students to simply walk out of the event.
Here’s a clip of the speech (Warning: Adult Language):
Savage noted that Americans disregard much of the “bulls*it” in the Bible, from laws about shellfish to those about slavery, and we just need to clear one more “hurdle” in disregarding writings about homosexuality.
“The Bible says that if your daughter’s not a virgin on her wedding night– if a woman is not a virgin on her wedding night– she shall be dragged to her father’s doorstep and stoned to death,” he says, yet “Callista Gingrich lives.”
Then, seemingly unable to resist a jab at Republicans, he added, “and there is no effort to amend state constitutions to make it legal to stone women to death on their wedding night if they’re not virgins. At least not yet– we don’t know where the GOP is going these days.”
One student in the audience, Rick Tuttle, remarked, “I thought this would be about anti-bullying…It turned into a pointed attack on Christian beliefs.”
CitizenLink, which broke the story, interviewed a 17-year old girl who explained: “The first thing he told [us] was, ‘I hope you’re all using birth control!’”
He also reportedly told the students about how good his partner looks in a speedo, and called the students who walked out “pansy a*ses.”
(Photo: Daily Mail)
The National Scholastic Press Association and Journalism Education Association, who co-sponsored the event, responded in a statement that they did not have a prior transcript of the speech, and wished he had stayed more “on target.” However, they wrote optimistically: “We have already heard from some advisers who have turned this into a teachable moment for their students.”
One teacher was more condemnatory, saying the language and material was inappropriate for high school students, and if anything, Dan Savage was bully in this regard.
“If he was doing this with a bunch of college journalism kids, that would be a different story — that’s more rough and tumble. How many of the kids who didn’t walk out felt backed into a corner? To me, that’s bullying behavior. It has all the symptoms, as far as I’m concerned.”
Candi Cushman, a CitizenLink blogger, concluded:
“Using profanity to deride the bible – and then mocking the Christian students after they left the room — is obviously a form of bullying and name-calling,” she wrote. “This illustrates perfectly what we’ve been saying all along: Too many times in the name of ‘tolerance,’ Christian students find their faith being openly mocked and belittled in educational environments.”
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Comments (1182)
RJJinGadsden
Posted on April 28, 2012 at 12:22pmAgain, more misquotes of the bible to get away with disparaging Christians.
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HappyStretchedThin
Posted on April 28, 2012 at 12:29pmIt’s no use, RJ: liberals are immune to proper contextualization. It undercuts their ideology to actually NOT misread things, and to come at people straight up.
Report Post »yougottabekidding
Posted on April 28, 2012 at 12:38pmI would be willing to bet the idiots that are cheering have no idea in the world what he is talking about!
Report Post »changedone
Posted on April 28, 2012 at 1:09pmIt’s always interesting how people will take The Law completely out of context to disparage Christians, but they totally don’t acknowledge the hate about killing infidels in the Quran.
Report Post »GeorgieJo
Posted on April 28, 2012 at 1:22pmI think this guy is STONED.
Report Post »johnjamison
Posted on April 28, 2012 at 1:55pmThis just another example of goovernment failure and liberal creating someone else to blame in order to protect the government . The biggest one is all these trial lawyers suing pharmacuetical companys for adverse effects from drugs THAT WERE APPROVED BY THE FDA.
Report Post »lketchum
Posted on April 28, 2012 at 2:07pmNothing he noted was from the New Testament! “Christians” did not exist until Christ rose from the dead to prove he was the Son of God, and had defeated death.
The Christians who walked out know this and they politely rose to their feet and in an orderly and nearly silent manner, voted the speaker down and walked away – turning the other cheek. I am certain that they gathered and prayed hard for the speaker and those that remained behind.
Report Post »Unix
Posted on April 28, 2012 at 3:13pmOh yeah, the gay anti-bully bully! Aren’t they so special in their HYPOCRICY
Report Post »LIBSALWAYSLIE
Posted on April 28, 2012 at 3:18pmLeftist have no bottom. There is nothing too low. When you think they can go no lower, they puul some crap like this. Liberals are pathetic, and this jerk is solid proof.
Report Post »db321
Posted on April 28, 2012 at 3:21pmTHANK YOU BLAZE! This is the BEST VIDEO I HAVE SEEN ALL YEAR! I never look for Satan – he is always present – I always look to see if God is present. Yes God was there – watch the Video and notice the young girl walk out – 20 second later another and another – and then a steady flow of our youth that had the guts to get up and walk out! Thank you God Fearing Youth of America – I will stand with you.
Blaze posters – take off your blinders – open your eyes – one of the first thing this administration did is to spend 500 Million for the arts. It went straight over everyone heads – Obama now owns the Artist, and Musicians of America. This is nothing – just wait – you wont believe whats coming next!
The Post I read are so naive- its like you just witnessed Jesus Death at Calvary – and you told everyone that noway can he he rise again in three days – BLAZE READERS – GOD DOES NOT LIE – STOP being so surprised when you see God in Action.
God told those youth to GET UP – AND WALK OUT – He did not tell them to sit there and be the VICTIM.
It is going to get worst – this is Satan’s Superbowl – Then Jesus will return – and the Victory is for those who are still around and still believe.
I walked out of a Church 20 years ago that preached about the Good Samaritan and Turn the other cheek – every Sunday! Those that are from his church are still listening to that Man of Satan Speak!
I choose to put on the Whole Armor of God and claim my Victory! Read the Bible!
Report Post »RabidPatriot
Posted on April 28, 2012 at 3:24pmSounds like a typical intolerant gay activist. Disguised as some anti-bullying peace crusader, he is just a left-wing bigot full of hate and venom. Reminds me of the old south with bible thumping KKK members with a noose in one hand and a bible in the other. Hate and evil disguised with self righteousness. The left, the clan of the modern age.
Report Post »Zeus In A Speedo
Posted on April 28, 2012 at 3:38pmSure, go ahead and bully Christians! We’re an easy target; we generally will not fight back and often “turn the other cheek” as our Savior told us to do. Go ahead and target us, and make fun of our beliefs. Even if your core message about anti-bullying is good and correct, you’ve just corrupted it by making fun of other people and being a BULLY. As a Christian, I do not believe “gay or lesbian behavior” is good, but I try to abide by Christ’s teaching of “love the sinner, but hate the sin.”
And if this person had some real “kahones,“ why not go after the ”religion of peace” – islam! That p.o.s. religion is all about bullying. Bullying non-believers and “infidels” (including gays!) into submission and persecution. Bullying women into subordinate roles and servitude. How about you go after them, or are you afraid they might attack you or put a fatwah on your head.
No, this person is too cowardly to attack islam, and we all know, bullies are cowards.
Report Post »db321
Posted on April 28, 2012 at 3:41pmRabid Patroit – The God of the Bible does not LIE! When he told us that Satan has mighty power – I believed him and I also believed him when he said that Jesus has ALMIGHTY POWER – This means that Satan is going to show all of his cards – and it is going to blow most away – NOT ME! I stand on the Word of God that says – I am the Victor – not the Victim!
Pray for our Black Friends, Welfare Recipients and Luke Warm Christians – that will soon follow Satan because they believe Government can save them.
I look for the signal of a person to see if I should trust him – The very Moment Obama said – Israel should go back to 1967 Borders – I knew then God was with me and he told me my vote should never go for a man that wants to destroy Israel!
If I am to believe my God – then I am to believe that this Satanic Speaker is nothing compared to what is coming.
Once again – I cannot praise the Youth enough for getting up and walking out! God Bless Them!
Report Post »Ari Ben TZion
Posted on April 28, 2012 at 3:44pmWell, first homosexuals said that the Torah/Bible didn’t condemn homosexuality.
Now, this guy confirms that in fact the Torah/Bible does condemn homosexuality but that everyone should simply ignore it.
What the hell is next?
Report Post »Ari Ben TZion
Posted on April 28, 2012 at 3:46pmYour sins will find you out…
Report Post »A Doctors Labor Is Not My Right
Posted on April 28, 2012 at 3:57pmThey walked out INSTEAD OF shouting you down.
They didn’t react like pansies, they reacted respectfully.
Report Post »db321
Posted on April 28, 2012 at 4:11pmDotor’s Labor – you correct – also I have heard that the Big Applause at the beginning was for the young Lady that stood up and Flipped the Speaker Off! – that’s when the mass exist started.
I cant stop Satan from showing himself – but I can look for God to be present and guiding me to the door!
Report Post »teamarcheson
Posted on April 28, 2012 at 4:12pmEver since God destroyed the two homosexual cities of SODOM and GOMORRAH, homosexuals have hated God. Its no surprise that this happened. Remember that Abraham and Lot bargained for the city with God and won a deal that if they could find 10 good people in the cities the cities would be spared. TEN people. How many good people are left in America?
Report Post »ChiefGeorge
Posted on April 28, 2012 at 4:16pmChristians are not under the law of Moses so his comparision is mute and stupid. Christians are not also saying you should be stoned, beat up or anything else and using the Bible for justification. However Muslims are. A bully or someone who bullies is technically far from the Lord and thus not a Christian. A Christian has the right to push back by simply walking out and leaving the area and having nothing to do with those who continue to sin….like stealing, abusing anyone, drinking, drug abuse, etc. Christians do not use those chapters to attack gay people. As far as I’m concerned I am just as much a sinner as a gay person. I disagree with their lifestyle and that is my right as an American but also as a Christian. I can chose not to approve of any behaviour I judge to be detrimental to society like drug abuse, drinking while driving etc. What I will not tolerate is some bully telling me I must accept their lifestyles…any lifestyle take a pick just because they say I must approve and respect it. I don’t expect them to respect me for being a Christian and believing that the Living/Loving God created the Universe. They don’t believe, I will not force them nor bully them to believe…its up to them. This whole presentation is utter lies and distortions. Beside that, his presentation was completely abusive and bullying to anyone who does not agree with him. What makes him any different than those he says are the real bullies…nothing.
Report Post »Amos37
Posted on April 28, 2012 at 4:34pmWe need some christians with a backbone to destroy this infidel.
Report Post »JGraham III
Posted on April 28, 2012 at 4:35pmHo hum; another homosexual attacking the Word of God…I’m glad some had the courage to get up and leave. The New Testament does deal with the issue of homosexuality apart from needing to cite Leviticus. To have a homosexual lecture the Christians on “what the Bible says” is laughable to the extreme. What this man says or thinks about what the Word may or may not say is immaterial to me. For any who care to, read Romans 1; it deals with homosexual behavior (as well as other sexual sins) and does not distinguish degrees of sin. One is as bad as another. It concludes that practicioners of such do not have sound minds. I submit that this guy‘s behavior in front of a gullible high school crowd is proof that he doesn’t have a full deck when dealing with issues of morality. Those who stayed and participated in his abberancy by agreeing with him also face the same unsoundness. Happily there is always forgiveness, something that God has always offered and their god never has..
Report Post »db321
Posted on April 28, 2012 at 4:37pmDan Savage is a Bully! Dan Savage is a Child Abuser! – Dan Savage is a Liar! – Dan Savage is Evil! – Dan Savage is Satan! – Dan Savage supports Barack Obama – Dan Savage is an Atheist! – Dan Savage is of his Father the Devil! Dan Savage is in bed with Gays and Google!
Now Wait a couple of Days and then Google Dan Savage – you will see for yourself how Google Works!
Report Post »La_Greca_Ministry_of_Truth
Posted on April 28, 2012 at 4:38pmHe needs to have his teeth whitened.
Report Post »robgc1
Posted on April 28, 2012 at 4:45pmAn anti-bully crusader my a$$! This guy is a bully! This guy is a left-wing Christian hating tool. It looked like most of his audience got up and exited. This guy totes the atheist’s water.
Report Post »P C BE DAMNED
Posted on April 28, 2012 at 4:56pmI‘am not going to read this story as I’ve had my fill of filthy people and there nastier point of view. I would like to say that this persons picture and the headline makes me want to vomit.
Report Post »Hollywood
Posted on April 28, 2012 at 4:59pmThe Lord says he is but a brute beast destined for destruction. Romans Ch 1 V 21-33 states the lifestyle of homosexual and lesbians, and others are worthy of death. What this brute beast says is of no consequence. The statisticall lifespan of homsexuals is 25 years less than the average. I love Homsexuals and Lesbians but hate their sin. IF they do not repent, and turn from their ways, and accept our Lord Jesus Christ, as their LORD and Saviour they will go to the lake of fire, for eternity.
Report Post »Maranatha
blattack
Posted on April 28, 2012 at 5:07pmAny man who puts his unit into another mans butt O YA THIS IS WHATS GOING ON…and calls it love something is deeply very WRONG with this.
Report Post »Drives Like Jehu
Posted on April 28, 2012 at 5:38pmWhat an ugly individual; dan savage is appropriately named (Genesis 49:17 “Dan” shall be a serpent by the way, an adder in the path, that biteth the horse heels, so that his rider shall fall backward … “savage” speaks for itself.) Too bad that he is soooooo self-impressed with his self-misunderstanding of the Scriptures.
Report Post »snooop1e
Posted on April 28, 2012 at 5:41pm@momrules – Wow your post is providential, there are also 33000 Protestant denominations who also pick and choose verses to support their beliefs. Read the verses below and see if you come away believing in Sola Fide (saved by faith alone) and/or do you now find yourself searching the scriptures for alternate verses that prove these verses wrong? It’s not either/or it’s both/and. It’s not either John 3:16 or 1 John 2:4 it’s Both John 3:16 and 1 John 2:4. (Eph 5:3-12) (Heb 5:9) (Heb 6:4-6) (Heb 10:26) (Rom 2:13) (1 Cor 10:13) (John 13:17) (John 14:15) (1 John 1:6-7) (1 John 2:4) (3 John 1:4) (3 John 1:11) (Matt 7:21) (1 Peter 3:12) (2 Peter 3:16) (James 1:12-15) (James 1:21-22) (James 1:26-27) (James 4:3) (James 4:6-9) (ames 4:17) (James 2:14-27) if any of these verses causes you or anyone else to begin searching for alternate verses that seem to cancel out or prove these verses wrong they are playing games with Gods Holy word and trying to make scripture fit what they already believe instead of making what they believe fit scripture. God Bless…..
Report Post »db321
Posted on April 28, 2012 at 5:52pmThis is a Good Day in the Lord – Satan spoke and Christians Students got up and Walked out – Go to Dan Savage You Tube Channel and read the Comments – Dan “The Satan” Savage’s 15 minutes of fame is up.
Not because Christian turned the other Cheek – because Young Christians stood with God and walked out.
Parents of the students that walked out – give your kid a big huge for the Millions of Christians across America that stand with them and we thank them for exercising their God given Right to Freedom!
This is a wonderful lesson for all the Blaze Readers that have lost faith – remember, Jesus said in the end times you will be persecuted like he was! I say Bring it – when Jesus stands before you – who can be against you!
Report Post »momrules
Posted on April 28, 2012 at 6:21pmSnoopie………I do not pick and choose what verse fits my lifestyle. I believe that we are saved by grace. That when we accept Jesus Christ as our Lord and Saviour we are saved. As I read the Bible I ask God to give me understanding. I also read a great commentary by J Vernon McGee. I listen to preachers I like that teach the Word of God, preachers like John Hagee and I speak with other Christians that I trust who follow the Lord.
I believe that one of the problems with too many of our churches is that the preachers try to please the congregation instead of pleasing God.
Report Post »Bluefish49
Posted on April 28, 2012 at 6:23pm@GeorgioJo…he’s not stoned…he has just had to big of a sperm injection and it hasn’t worn “out ” yet….
Report Post »The-Monk
Posted on April 28, 2012 at 7:10pmSounds to me that the purpose of his “speech” was to “pick up” a Chinese meal called “Sum Young Guy” for a snack later on….
Any videos of whom he left with or who met him at his hotel room? The Police should look into this and the Parents might want/need to contact an Attorney about the School letting his speech continue after it got so vile that Teenagers started walking out.
He says, “It’s funny how someone who has been on the receiving end of beatings that are justified by the Bible….” and then says nothing about being beaten himself by people who read the Bible; just another Progressive lair that reads the Communist Manifesto and Saul Alinsky. He’s on another kind of “receiving end” that leads to HIV and AIDS.
I wonder if that last teenager to leave, the black girl, will vote for Obama in 2012? Take a good look at her face as she walked up the aisle to leave. That’s the look of someone who “just woke up”.
Report Post »grimmy
Posted on April 28, 2012 at 8:08pmSince people like this gays, atheists,most liberal,do not believe in God,then the way we interperet the bible does not apply to them.Therefore,we as christians need not worry about fearing God for beating the crap out of these piece of sh!ts.Go ahead, say im wrong, but God said nothing about what to do, after turning the other cheek…..
Report Post »PASSIONFORCHRIST
Posted on April 28, 2012 at 8:41pmIf your interpretation doesn’t point to JESUS CHRIST AND HIS AGENDA ALONE, the only other way it points is me, myself and I, and YOUR doctrine! BOTTOM LINE, WHAT DID YOU DO W/THE FREE GIFT!!!!!!!!!!
Report Post »rs102156
Posted on April 28, 2012 at 9:13pmThanks for posting this. I will make a copy and repost it for the unknowledgeable people out there.
Report Post »black9897
Posted on April 28, 2012 at 10:00pmDisagreeing with the Bible is fine. Putting forth ignorance about it is another. I’ve heard this stuff a billion times, how the Bible “says’ this” and that when it really doesn’t. Take some Bible courses or try researching it, we do have the internet now.
Report Post »rangerp
Posted on April 28, 2012 at 10:11pmFools like this have zero understanding of Bible slavery. Slaves earned a wage, and they were free after seven years. Sounds kind of like doing a hitch in the Army to me.
If a pro athlete signs a seven year contract to play for one team, he can not up and go play for another. He serves the one master, until his seven years are up, or anther team purchases him. Hear any sniveling on that one?
What one religion in the world do we find the most slavery? It would be islam. Do you think gay boy here would knock Islam, and get folks to clap for him. If he put down Islam, the teachers and principal would run and tackle him, and throw him out the front door.
Report Post »Oldmantex
Posted on April 28, 2012 at 10:31pmFirst thing I would do as a parent and I HOPE someone from the school reads this, file a law suit. They constantly want to sue over separation of Church and State. The school administration brought someone in to speak about the Bible and clearly that is unconstitutional and I would have someones job over this character. Use their own words against them. Sue the district, sue the school board and sue this clown. Hurt them where is matters, in the pocket book.
Report Post »If it illegal for the administration of a school to promote the Bible, its just as illegal to support bad mouthing it. Time to take a stand.
fandangojoe
Posted on April 28, 2012 at 11:14pmYeap and this guy sounds like a bully…………
Report Post »mils
Posted on April 28, 2012 at 11:23pmI don’t understand…why go after christians exclusively…lets bring in the muslims too.. of course they would merely lop his head off and then he wouldn’t have much to say..
Report Post »the minority is ruling our country…time to stop it.
iTHINKsoIMdangerous
Posted on April 29, 2012 at 12:20amtake it personally from a Christian:
1. slavery is in the bible for the same reason why women are told in the bible to submit: culture. if you honestly want to stop taking the Bible out of context Mr. Savage, the Bible also sais that after 7 years, you must release the slave.
2. correction: being gay is a sin, just like any other sin. its not to pick at gays. God made Adam and Eve, not Adam and Steve, not Eve and Ivy.
3. farming? really?
4. shellfish, again, was restricted for culture. God said not to eat any fish that doesnt have scales or fins, and with good reason, because commonly, fish without scales or fins tend to either eat anything or are filter feeders. thus, they have impurities in their body. SIDENOTE: this was put in the Bible long before this was known by men, because God created those fish, so obviously He would know.
5. Stoning women if they weren’t virgins was, again, culture, which at the time suppressed women. If you actually knew the Bible, you would know John 8:1-7, where Jesus changed this. The pharisees bought an adulterer before Jesus (a woman they had caught in the very act), and they referred to the same law as Savage. They said: The Law of Moses says to stone her. What do you say? And Jesus said: Let he who is without sin cast the first stone. SIDENOTE: the nect question is: does this apply to Jews? In their own eyes, no. But in Romans 10:1-4 (paraphrasing) I pray that they (the Jews) will come unto Jesus.
Report Post »ddevonb73
Posted on April 29, 2012 at 12:39amLKETCHUM, of course the speaker is an evil idiot… but it is not good that you don‘t know that he referred to three of Paul’s epistles from the New Testament. He referred to Romans and Timothy, and also to Paul’s epistle Philemon in his reference to slavery.
Report Post »I would encourage you to get more familiar with the Bible.
Ray2447
Posted on April 29, 2012 at 12:41am“Reports say Savage’s speech quickly turned from the subject of anti-bullying into an event in “Christian-bashing,” causing as many as 100 students to simply walk out of the event.”
It sounds more like thuggery from a Gaystopo agenda, than an anti-bullying campaign. :-/
Report Post »karen162
Posted on April 29, 2012 at 1:41am@ GeorgieJo: “I think this guy is STONED” Did you see who is donors are? He’s not stoned, just earning more money for his cause from his Donor’s.
Good on the kids who walked out. They did it politely and quietly. They didn’t rush the stage to throw stuff at him and demand he shut up. They got that civility from their parents and their faith.
Report Post »Marci
Posted on April 29, 2012 at 1:59amSo he came in as a puppet for the Democrats and suggested that there is no law against stoning women because of the GOP? Sick of people like this, and then calling out the kids in the hall was overkill, and he should be forced to issue a heartfelt apology to them IN person. He was on THEIR turf, not the other way around–but did you notice he acted as if it was his turf? Easy to feel that way since the school safety czar in the O-admin is a homosexual who praises NAMBLA.
Report Post »mauijonny
Posted on April 29, 2012 at 3:27am“People ARE dying” …in Muslim countries. BTW, nice to see students walk out of this Bible Bashing.
Report Post »pamela kay
Posted on April 29, 2012 at 4:19amRJJINGADSDEN, Exactly, Christians are in the way. They know that following the Golden Rule and The Ten Commandments will prevent society from bowing down to their agenda. Christians are strong and they prey on the weak. Christians will refuse to follow and put any man before God. I find it strange that they can bully Christians yet accuse Christians as being the bullies. Just as they claim to be defending the middle class when their agenda will destroy it.
Report Post »Dr Vel
Posted on April 29, 2012 at 5:23amThis adult attacking children in a school setting is wickedness and nothing short of criminal. The demonic left demands we respect the faith of others while spewing hatred towards our faith, even the faith of our children who have done no wrong to them. If I ever begin to doubt God’s reason for creating hell I will play the video of this demon infested filth. Amazing that this swine used points from the Jewish bible i.e. the Torah, and a way of life that existed 4,000 years ago. What is known as the Christian religion did not exist back then, the new testament being the foundation of the modern Christian faith upon which America is founded. What sickens me most of all is the knowledge that when the angels drag vermin like this to the lake of fire they will be begging and pleading for the eternity they have forfeited never having shown a trace of remorse for the terrible evil wickedness they spewed out upon the children of God today.
Report Post »kaydeebeau
Posted on April 29, 2012 at 7:01amAny idea where this happened? Sorry, won’t watch the video, so I don’t see that info in this story
Report Post »poorrichard09
Posted on April 29, 2012 at 8:48amThat thilly Thavage!
Report Post »B_rad
Posted on April 29, 2012 at 9:11amThe HYPOCRISY of the progressive left truly knows no bounds. In a speech that was supposed to (rightly) be about anti-bullying, this moron showed us a perfect example of bullying. What would this idiot have said if a speaker, Christian or not, had started berating homosexuals and described their behavior as wrong. “INTOLERANT!” They would have been screaming it from the rooftops. I will never understand how anyone can demand tolerance for their beliefs and way of life (as we all should), while simultaneously ridiculing another for their beliefs and way of life.
This is exactly the type of progressive activist that gives all gays a bad name and makes it nearly impossible to create a reasonable dialogue. As a gay man, I’m saddened every time I see these nut-jobs berating those who disagree while demanding tolerance. It is the very definition of hypocrisy and shows the true colors of the left. It is designed to divide, not unite. When someone attacks another’s beliefs, that person has no choice but to push back. If, as I do, the progressive left truly wanted tolerance and to be left alone to live in peace, they would NEVER attack the basic right of others to believe as they wish. Their real agenda has nothing whatever to do with tolerance. Shame on them and shame on this idiot who so misused his platform.
Good job, to the students who stood up and politely exited. It’s a real shame ANYONE sat there and listened to this idiot.
Report Post »Ruler4You
Posted on April 29, 2012 at 9:59amThe notion of or the concept of “tolerance”, IMHBLO, “IS” at the root of all of this garbage.
Principles and or convictions of morality and ethics are the foundation of human character. Compromising those principles in the name of “tolerance” is diametric opposition to ‘principle.’
“Tolerance” “IS” a kind of derivative of the communist democrat tactic (right out of rules for radicals) of ‘projection’. Where you have seen the democrats act in a destructive way and then assign that via blame to the GOP or some other opposition group, like the TEA Party.
Only with “tolerance” they are projecting THEIR (lack) of principles THEIR (lack) of morality or ethics onto you or me or the public in general. And we are expected to drop our principles, or morals and ethics, our faith in God and His commandments and His Word so that all who approach the gate of access to our personal world of living to a higher standard are permitted under the threshold.
This “IS” a devious undermining of the foundations of social advancement. Leading, eventually, to where we can not agree on anything. And so building anything of future value becomes impossible or nearly so. Babylon.
Report Post »CGray
Posted on April 29, 2012 at 10:26amHappyStretchedThin, It may be falling on deaf ears to activists like him, but it’s important for Christians to continue to speak up and loudly for the sake of the audience. It is their understanding that is important and that means bombarding false statements like what he makes at every turn.
At the end of the day, this guy is doing the same thing of twisting Scripture as David Koresh, Jim Jones, Mormons, Jehovah’s Witnesses, and Muslims. He’s no different than them. But if we continue to allow these guys to speak unchallenged, then we will regret it.
Report Post »closetotheedge
Posted on April 29, 2012 at 10:47amYes indeed. The most dangerous name spoken today.Jesus. Unless used in slander or to curse someone, something,anything or action. And can also be used to praise,still the use of any slang,useing Jesus or the Holy Sprit when surprised by a gift,or from fear. That His name is so easily slammed that we become ‘vexed in our spirits’ as we hear this everywhere we go.And the Bible? Why? Tell me, what did Jesus ever do to you that His name should be evil, not allowed to be spoken of in ‘Public’, cuz it will affend even just one person,they can cancel an event or cause the arrest of anyone praying in the wrong place: check out “the National Defence Authority Act” and see that anything can be illegal,it tears our Constitution and Bill of Rights right out and they control in peacetime or war,can justify the confisgation of all we have and make up the laws as they deem fit.We have lost the !st,2nd,3rd, 4th,5th 8th,etc,etc, With a muslum Pres,surrounded by czars/traitors, are just waiting for the time. The move by the Feds to exterminate various breads,of Hogs in Mich‘ causing 100’s of farms to destroy entire herds before the ‘FEDS’ were to come in and arrest them. This Pres and his minions are right in line. And they cannot stand to hear the name of Jesus, the most radical and loving name. It cuts them deeply in the heart, just the mention of His name. Who do you say Jesus was? The one question we all must answer for ourselves. A Christian Patriot
Report Post »B_rad
Posted on April 29, 2012 at 11:06amSorry, Ruler4You, you’re totally wrong. This country was created by those seeking tolerance for their beliefs. They escaped an intolerant ruler to come here where everyone could practice their way of life with no interference from others.
Report Post »Tolerance does not demand approval, just the opposite. Tolerance is allowing someone to live in a way with which you disagree, without ridiculing or harassing them. I’m fine with you not accepting or approving of my way of life, just as I may not approve of yours, but we are both free to live our lives OUR way, free from the fear of ridicule or attack from others. The entire point to a constitutional republic, that guarantees liberty to live with the rights granted to us by God, is that the individual, and his choices, are sacrosanct. No one gets to tell another they must live or believe a certain way in order to exist peacefully. So long as the way one lives does not infringe upon the rights of another to live peacefully, no one else gets any input.
Most Christians would not approve of a Hindu’s belief structure or way of life. If they believe the Hindu will be excluded from the Kingdom of Heaven because they don’t believe in Christ, how could they approve? But no good Christian is going to harass or ridicule that Hindu, they TOLERATE their neighbor’s beliefs.
wdittgasn
Posted on April 29, 2012 at 11:32amIt is unbelievable that even one person could be so demented that they would have sex with their own gender,…but for there to be so many as to have political clout…It hurts my brain!!!…..And when the percentage of people who agree with homosexual abomination and perversion are high enough,…. then comes DESTRUCTION!! Satan knows how to destroy!!
Report Post »Shackleford
Posted on April 29, 2012 at 12:43pmAnyone else notice that no one cared about bullying until it became a gay-oriented issue?
Report Post »ginger3350
Posted on April 29, 2012 at 12:46pmWould this man disparage Islam? He does realize that homosexuals are stoned to death or hung, right? Yet go ahead and mock Christianity as you know that we would “turn the other cheek”. What a hypocritical imbecile. And terrible behavior in front of impressionable teens. Now he’s the bully- how ironic. How does he look at himself in the mirror?
Report Post »skiporbit001
Posted on April 29, 2012 at 1:17pmpolitly walking out was the christian way to turn the other cheek, he may have a different interpretation of that verse.
Report Post »bombshelterbob
Posted on April 29, 2012 at 1:47pmIf this copper-top was even half as cool, hip, and courageous as he thinks he is he’d be spewing this waste in a madras, I guess he wants to save his head and his stones for his boyfriend, Christian children aren’t as touchy as the guys with the big, sharp knives. BTW, you’ll notice that captain courageous there said it to a bunch of kids and avoided their full grown fathers, wonder why that was?
Report Post »mikem1969
Posted on April 29, 2012 at 2:22pmSo the anti-bully is nothing but a bully to christians. It figures, on more liberal progressive moron preaching one thing and doing another.
Report Post »tarm778
Posted on April 29, 2012 at 3:03pmSavage is full of anger and hatred. People like that are miserable people to be around.
Report Post »barryswhitehalf
Posted on April 29, 2012 at 3:16pmThe anti-bully turns out to be the bully. Not surprising. Bullies always see themselves as the “real” victims. Same thing the Nazis did to the Jews.
Report Post »FoxholeAtheist
Posted on April 29, 2012 at 4:54pmAt least he didn’t lock the kids in a room with him and preach to a captive audience. Right?
Report Post »SEspider
Posted on April 29, 2012 at 5:00pmGod Is Good!
I searched over 20 pages of comments trying to find this link again. I replied to a comment asking for the link again. pressing the “Reply” option took me straight to the post with the link. AWESOME!
Thank you for the link.
Report Post »FoxholeAtheist
Posted on April 29, 2012 at 5:05pmOh no! Dare someone to engage these kids to make them think about what they have been indoctrinated into. I wonder how many of them used it as an excuse to just get out of an assembly. They were born morons and they will die morons. If they are so bothered by it, let them stand up and defend themselves. They can‘t because they don’t have a leg to stand on. They don’t have an argument. They are the types that will use any reason to argue a point as long as they feel they have the upper hand and maybe even unexpectedly knock on a few doors on a Saturday, but can’t stand to have their platform questioned unannounced. Hypocrites.
Report Post »FoxholeAtheist
Posted on April 29, 2012 at 5:06pmHe wasn’t misquoting anything. Every time we point out a vile piece of your faith, it’s being “misquoted” or “out of context” when in reality, we are only making you face what you probably have never read for yourself.
Report Post »FoxholeAtheist
Posted on April 29, 2012 at 5:07pm“Nothing he noted was from the New Testament! “Christians” did not exist until Christ rose from the dead to prove he was the Son of God, and had defeated death.”
Well then, stop using the Old Testament to justify your bigotry.
Report Post »paperpushermj
Posted on April 29, 2012 at 5:38pmHis Speaking Fees just Went Up.
Report Post »-30-
Posted on April 29, 2012 at 5:52pmdan savage, spoken like a true lieberal.
Wrong door dan.
Report Post »Sunnyy
Posted on April 29, 2012 at 6:01pmDB…I am with you! No since my taking up space…well said my bro!
Report Post »Lisabo
Posted on April 29, 2012 at 6:07pmA timeless comment on homosexuality (from 1070 a.d.):
Saint Peter Damian, another Doctor of the Church, a Cardinal and great reformer of the clergy, wrote an entire treatise entitled the Book of Gomorrah against the inroads made by homosexuality among the clergy. In his important work, St. Damian describes the iniquity of homosexuality as well as its psychological and, more importantly, its moral consequences:
“Truly, this vice is never to be compared with any other vice because it surpasses the enormity of all vices…It defiles everything, stains everything, pollutes everything. And as for itself, it permits nothing pure, nothing clean, nothing other than filth….The miserable flesh burns with the heat of lust; the cold mind trembles with the rancor of suspicion; and in the heart of the miserable man chaos boils like Tartarus [Hell]….In fact, after this most poisonous serpent once sinks its fangs into the unhappy soul, sense is snatched away, memory is borne off, the sharpness of the mind is obscured. It becomes unmindful of God and even forgetful of itself. This plague undermines the foundation of faith, weakens the strength of hope, destroys the bond of charity; it takes away justice, subverts fortitude, banishes temperance, blunts the keenness of prudence. And what more should I say since it expels the whole host of the virtues from the chamber of the human heart and introduces every barbarous vice as if the bolts of the doors were pulled out.”
Report Post »swift_driver
Posted on April 29, 2012 at 6:13pmMany people get bullied. It is apparently Dan Savage’s
Report Post »stupid opinion that only the bullying of gay people matters. Furthermore, he seems to
think that when gays are victimized the Bible is always the culprit. If this were
the case we wouldn’t see the bullying of fat kids, frail kids, smart kids or kids
who are socially out of sync for any number of blatant or obscure reasons. In
other words Savage’s analysis of bullying is so self-serving it is practically useless. Savage
uses his podium to vent his personal anger at the Bible, and apparently at those
who respect it by calling them “pansy-assed.” He refers to his own self-righteous bigotry as “pushing
back” implying that he is heroic and brave. Perhaps when he
figures out that the essential cause of bullying is intolerance and disrespect,
he’ll take a good look in the mirror and see the thing he hates.
softunderbelly
Posted on April 29, 2012 at 7:00pmUm, like, wasn’t he cool? He, um, like took it to the man. He, um, like, had a lot of courage.
Report Post »Basharr
Posted on April 29, 2012 at 8:05pm@ Foxholeathiest
Let me guess you are this guys husband, I ask because you are extremely hot under the collar from the looks of things and perhaps you got cut-off after the backlash Savage never thought he would get.
The point is the guy was brought in to speak on anti bullying and proceeded to bully. I could give a rats ass how godless you are, but that should not stop you from understanding right from wrong. Or is it you can‘t be human and support people wrongly under fire because you don’t agree with them?
Report Post »ProbIemSoIver
Posted on April 29, 2012 at 8:26pmThe only thing “Flaming” here, is the hypocrisy.
The Guy likes to Christian bash and is “anti”- bully.
I bet he would have his panties in a wad if someone was gay bashing or was openly advocating a Anti-homosexual lifestyle.
The one thing I hate almost as much as a Global Bankster is a hypocrite.
I am not opposed to immense wealth, But POS Mofos crossed the line when they enslaved people
against their will, with their “wealth” and “power”.
I am going to pop a bottle of Champagne for every dead global elitist promulgated in the very near future.
Today I had to breathe more of your “chemtrails”, which are usually metal oxides and barium, but who knows what it was today, or what it will be tomorrow.
I am one PI$$ED off weaving spider. I’ve had enough.
Mofos made my Country a Corporation then Bankrupted it, took our gold and our land and enslaved us !!!!
You print paper, call it money, and lend it with interest.
So you want us to work for paper that you printed from NOTHING and could just print up again?
Here are some more links to destroy your global agenda.
The Gays, Liberals and Minorities should see this 3 minute clip, telling them why they should be the staunchest advocates of the Constitution and that democracy is a cancerous Ideology perpetuated by the progressive globalists:
Report Post »http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RewUP-Fdhqk
anna logan
Posted on April 29, 2012 at 9:42pmThis Savage person has an overblown sense of his own importance. Why is it people like this clown always say all these perverted things and encouage others to do them, and then make fun of those that disagree and don’t want to live a perverted existance. It is like the majority can see what a sick perverse indivdual this is and he seems to be the only one who doesn’t realize what he really is. Savage is the only one who can’t accurately judge his true condition. Savage is a discusting pervert comitting discusting acts with another man, and projecting his twisted view onto others.
Report Post »FoxholeAtheist
Posted on April 30, 2012 at 1:05amPerhaps they should get god and prayer back into schools. Give them a good religious upbringing much like the ones that Albert Fish and Ed Gein and Gary Ridgeway had when they grew up.
Report Post »PaxInVeritate
Posted on April 30, 2012 at 8:23amI applaud the youth that removed themselves with grace and poise.
Report Post »Now to my fellow Christians… I, as is my want to do so, only read the fist “page” of postings, so I don‘t know if others have said what I’m about to.
I see many on this one page alone condemning this man. Indeed, some have gone so far as to call him Satan (but for this instance I will ignore the fact that humans and Angels are of different species) Where are we in fasting and praying for this wayward child of God to have a conversion experience and renounce his life style and return to the Lord? What of this prodigal son who has yet to hit rock bottom? Is it not better to fast and pray that he repents and love the Lord God with all his mind, body and soul? Why are you so willing to dismiss him to Hell, and not willing in Love and Honor of God fast and pray for him? How much more will it speak to God’s Mercy, Love and tribute to Jesus’ redemptive sacrifice if we ourselves sacrifice and pray on his behalf and he does convert? Pray, pray, pray for our brothers and sisters to come back to the Lord. This is what God desires. What shows more love than to give of ourselves to God for the sake of another in need of Him?
johnjamison
Posted on April 30, 2012 at 1:50pmIt seems that every special interest group is anti-christian /liberal first and everything else second.
Report Post »lilmjomac
Posted on May 1, 2012 at 11:56amHeart breaking to see a man of influence, misguiding a large group of easily influenced young people. Bashing our Lord is never easy to hear. Also inspiring to see all the youth that walked out! Proud of them!!
Report Post »momrules
Posted on April 28, 2012 at 12:21pmOh you lying, homosexual, liberal, Godophobic, bullying POS………How dare you!
This speech was brought to you by Satan, the greatest liar of them all. Shame on the students who applauded and cheered, shame on you.
Kudos and cheers to the decent Christian kids who left that den of iniquity.
Report Post »Bruce P.
Posted on April 28, 2012 at 12:28pmExcept he wasn’t lying. Everything he stated is in the Bible. Deuteronomy 22:13-29. Christians are picking and choosing when it comes to legislating “morality” based on Biblical teaching.
Report Post »Mark0331
Posted on April 28, 2012 at 12:32pmJust look at the smug smile on this jackwagons face…it reeks of brainwashing, I say it all the time…these people have to be brainwashed to say and believe the things they do…They all have that happy/scary face of evil look about them. Its in the eyes, spooky and distant.
Report Post »Itsjusttim
Posted on April 28, 2012 at 12:40pmDid David hit Goliath by shooting a stone into Goliath‘s forehead or slinging the ’Word‘ of God into Golaith’s forehead? Now Satan will stand up inside you to tell you it was an actual rock. Therefore you too are speaking for Satan. So I guess you can see that Gog, and Magog are all around.
Report Post »Mark0331
Posted on April 28, 2012 at 12:41pm@BruceP…the only people ‘picking and choosing’ when it comes to ‘legislating morality’ is the secular and G*dless left…By tearing down the very fabric of morality through the child like use of ‘moral relativism’ and ‘personal choice’ cliches…many things are in the Bible, which then addresess and corrects all things ‘old and new’.
Report Post »Razlord
Posted on April 28, 2012 at 12:41pmget’em mom…:)
Report Post »momrules
Posted on April 28, 2012 at 12:42pmBruce……read and comprehend the Bible, both the old and new Testements, then you will be able to spot the distortions of the truth coming out of his mouth. Yes Bruce read the whole Bible……it’s a good thing. I do not take Biblical advice from an atheist and the Bible is correct. Homosexuality is a sin.
Report Post »He also tried to lay all the blame for bullying of homosexuals on Christians………a clear cut lie.
Itsjusttim
Posted on April 28, 2012 at 12:44pmI guess it must be that you are far too occupied with the Testimony of Paul who is not an Apostle, and therefore you crucify the flesh, rather than crucify the spirit, and therefore Satan stays intact leached to your soul.
Report Post »kickagrandma
Posted on April 28, 2012 at 12:47pmStanding in agreement with you, MOM!
Report Post »Bruce P.
Posted on April 28, 2012 at 12:49pmMOMRULES, nothing Dan Savage was saying was incorrect (though it was bullying, mean-spirited and an inappropriate venue). The Bible does say homosexuality is wrong, right where it also says a lot of sexual acts made by Christians, especially those legislating morality and telling us homosexuality is wrong, are wrong. And it proscribes death for those acts. Deuteronomy 22:13-29.
You keep saying take both the New and Old Testaments in context. Jesus says in the Sermon on the Mound that nothing in the New Testament invalidates the Old. Matthew 5:17.
You obviously have not read the Bible yourself, and are just repeating back what you THINK is in there. And thus, in effect, you are spreading falsehoods about the Bible. If I am wrong, please, point to the passages in the Bible that prove me wrong, that prove what Savage said to be incorrect.
Report Post »CatB
Posted on April 28, 2012 at 1:09pmTRON .. we have a beautiful Saturday here ;-) Have a great rest of your weekend.
Report Post »momrules
Posted on April 28, 2012 at 1:09pmBruce…..there are over 31,000 Bible verses and the left picks and chooses the ones they want to use to bludgeon the Christians with. I do not argue with Satan, I recognize him though. I will not waste my time in a debate with you. Read the BOOK.
Report Post »undercover
Posted on April 28, 2012 at 1:19pmIf anyone knows ITSJUSTTIM please try to talk him down or get him some kind of help – I fear he is a danger to himself or others.
Report Post »Americanaiko
Posted on April 28, 2012 at 1:35pmYes, yes Bruce…much better to have no morality. I am a Buddhist and I find far more morality in the Bible than anwhere else. My choice of spirituality is not affected by anyone else’s. Good is Good and Evil is Evil. Period.
Report Post »Notice how he is at a High School. Notice the President only speaks to Colleges these days. People like you Bruce, and your ilk, can only go for the most malleable, the kids. Have a conversation with an adult once in a while….I you know any.
This man is a bully….just like the rest of the Left.
brother_ed
Posted on April 28, 2012 at 1:55pm@BRUCE P.
I believe that God’s laws are perfect, we are not.
To point out the fact that we continually fall short of compliance is reason enough to prove that we are an imperfect people trying to build up God’s perfect Kingdom.
It is my understanding that the Ten Commandments and the Law of Moses were given to His children as a minimal guide of behavior.
When Jesus came, he did not, as you say, come to destroy the law, He actually came to raise the bar. The Sermon on The Mount is an example of this; ie, not only ‘do not commit adultery’, but don’t even think of it…
The things of God are spiritually discerned, according to Paul, and foolish to those without the Spirit.
I have a testimony that Jesus Christ is the Savior of all mankind, even you, and if we but come unto Him He will cleanse us and heal us and we will inherit all that He has. This however, is not unconditional. We must do our best to follow His laws, therefore, it is best to find out what those laws are and get to work.
I refuse to get into an argument verse by verse. As MOMRULES says, it is the book in its entirety that must be looked at.
The Bible is the word of God. He intends for us to study, pray about and learn of its concepts.
Report Post »TomSawyer
Posted on April 28, 2012 at 2:03pmBruce P., OR you don’t understand the Bible.
Report Post »Richalu
Posted on April 28, 2012 at 2:04pmAhhh yes. Another INTOLERANT, mocking, hate filled rant, brought to you by the Democratic Party of Tolerance.
Was this a lecture against bullying, or a lecture on how to bully.
Report Post »TheRemedy
Posted on April 28, 2012 at 2:04pmI don‘t think I’ve ever heard a Christian say, “I live by Leviticus”. No, we live by the words of Jesus, who shows the way of love in a dark and hateful world.
Bullying, hypocrisy, lack of tolerance, prejudice. These were all displayed by this man.
Report Post »Walkabout
Posted on April 28, 2012 at 2:08pmBruce P.
You state laws that were meant to protect a woman’s good name (Deuteronomy 22:13-29. ) as proof that the Bible is bad. LMAO
Nothing more needs to be said. :)
Report Post »Bruce P.
Posted on April 28, 2012 at 3:11pmMOMRULES, I find it telling that instead of telling me where in the Bible I am wrong, where I am misquoting and misunderstanding, you instead simply say “Read the Book” and refuse any debate or discussion. It is evident you have absolutely no idea what you are talking about, have no true understanding of the Bible and only repeating what you THINK it says. I have read the Bible. It is obvious you have not.
Walkabout — those passage proscribe death for adulterers. It shows Christian hypocrisy, in that they cherry pick which parts of the Bible they wish to preach morality from. It says nothing about how I view women (and says a lot about how ancient peoples did).
Report Post »Unix
Posted on April 28, 2012 at 3:17pmYou see gays HAVE to attack the Bible, lest they lose the argument! Their lifestyle is a CHOICE, of evil ways!
Report Post »Vargas
Posted on April 28, 2012 at 4:14pmBruce you are correct he is not lying – but he is 1) ill informed and 2) misleading.
We have to biblically remember Jews didn’t always have the law. For many many many years the people of Abraham lived in faith with their God, before becoming slaves to the Law of Moses. That’s one of the things Jesus restored – live with God thru faith not law (works). God granted the Jews of Egypt a moral Law because they insisted to live by law rather then grace. So God gave them it to prove to them that you can not live by law – but must live by grace and mercy from God.
Now fast forward a few thousand years to after Christ. Christians are to be the people who live by grace not law. And if there is to be a law – it’s to Love. Love God 1st and then your fellow man.
Also we are not bound by the law given to Arron of the tribe of Levi, Mose’s brother. Since Jesus’s mother, Marry was of the tribe of Judah – making her son Jesus a brand of the royal line of King David. Since he had no father their is no way he could be of the line of Levi. So he could not be a Priest – but to be the Christ he had to be part of a priestly order. Which in Hebrews Paul tells us he was of the order of Melchizedek — making him bound to the law of eternal peace which is love that begets life — not of an earthly system of morality which leads to sin ( falling short ) and death ( the consequence of sin ). Hebrews 5:1-10
IN SHORT
Report Post »Christians – you’re free! Be free – No weapons will prosper. G
Alessandre
Posted on April 28, 2012 at 5:03pm@Bruce P: Christians are not under the law. Christ & His apostles taught us what to follow. For those of who are Catholic, the Magisterium continues to explain & help us understand those teachings. Those who are not Catholic are taught by their pastors & ministers. And, most importantly, we are all taught by the Holy Spirit. As has already been mentioned, the New Testament speaks clearly on sexual sins in Romans 1. Homosexuals don’t get off but then neither do fornicators (those engaging in sex before marriage), adulterers or others engaging in sexual sins. It isn’t a matter of picking and choosing but rather that we are called to be holy as our Father in Heaven is holy. On what do you base your accusation?
Report Post »momprayn
Posted on April 28, 2012 at 5:04pmBRUCE P. – You’re right – wasn’t lying re those scriptures, but not required now b/c Christ took care of that —…
We Christians honor and revere the Old Testament, but we interpret it through Jesus Christ and the new era of salvation and fulfillment. The Old “law” was to show people how much God hates sin and that it is punishable by death in His Holy view of real justice (that we don’t understand)..“the wages of sin is death”. (Romans 6:23)
Report Post »The difference between Matt. 5:18 and 24:35 is subtle, but important. Matt. 5:18 places time restrictions on the Old Covenant. Its words shall not pass away until heaven and earth do and “until EVERYTHING IS ACCOMPLISHED” On the other hand, Matt. 24:35 says that Jesus’ words will never pass away, even when heaven and earth do. This places no time restrictions on His words. His words subtly and quietly take authority over previous sacred texts.
Jesus does not destroy the law as a whole, but He does fulfill passages, such as animal sacrifices. Jesus fulfills the JUDICIAL aspect of the Old Testament…like His death on the cross takes away the severe penalty of death for sins like homosexuality and cursing parents. His death takes their place because divine wrath for human sins was poured on Him on the cross.
More in-depth info:
http://www.answering-islam.org/Authors/Arlandson/fulfilled.htm
db321
Posted on April 28, 2012 at 5:09pmBruce P – I’m confused – Dan Savage spoke to a goup of High School Journalist and said everything the Bible says about Homosexuality is a Lie! He is a Lie – he is a Child Abuser – He is a criminal!
The Student heard his satanic message and walked out – the camera at the end of the speach had to zoom in so it would not show an empty room.
The Bible is right – the Students were right for walking out – and Dan Savage and you are wrong for saying the Bible Lied!
You don’t have to prove me wrong – I would suggest however, that you pray for forgiveness for saying Dan Savage is Right in what he said!
Report Post »WhiteFang
Posted on April 28, 2012 at 5:37pmMonRules,
Good people bemoan the evil attitudes of dark reasoning’s. And we see too much perverse conduct and speech all around us. We see and feel decent society melting away in these last days, the last days that God’s Word describes for us. So, should we be surprised when we see and hear this kind of blasphemies?
No, we actually expect it to get even worse than what we experience in our daily lives.
Revelation 12:12 gives us the reason that this savage man spews out his so-called wisdom: “On this account be glad, YOU heavens and YOU who reside in them! Woe for the earth and for the sea, because the Devil has come down to YOU, having great anger, knowing he has a short period of time.”
Pray for God’s Kingdom to come, it is the only hope for mankind through Jesus Christ our Lord.
Report Post »pennswoods
Posted on April 28, 2012 at 6:05pmBRUCE. Deuteronomy is the 5th book in the Hebrew Bible. You don‘t have the guts to attack the Jewish Bible for it’s open anti homosexual stance do you? Jesus never said ANYTHING about homosexuals. That should make you liberals think before you bash HIM!
Report Post »momrules
Posted on April 28, 2012 at 6:32pmBruce……….your opinion on whether or not I have read the Bible is immaterial to me but reading comprehension is apparently not your forte. I said I do not argue with Satan but that I can recognize him. Your arguments are not for a better understanding of the word of God , they are a dismissal and deliberate twisting of His word. You, whether you realize it or not, are a minion of Satan. I do not have debates with the Devil.
Report Post »The-Monk
Posted on April 28, 2012 at 7:27pm@momrules
Great posts! Don’t listen to or respond to BruceP. If you look at his icon you will notice the “A” in it. That’s one of the Atheist Alliance International logos. You can’t talk any sense to him. His mind is closed and sealed. Here’s some links so you can see it for yourself, you might have to scroll down to see them. It’s called their freethought symbol;
http://www.religioustolerance.org/atheist6.htm
http://www.truefreethinker.com/articles/atheism-symbols-atheist-symbols
Keep the Faith MomRules…. We Love you.
Report Post »The-Monk
Posted on April 28, 2012 at 7:37pm@Bruce P.
Report Post »I got your number slimeball….
http://www.atheistrev.com/2007/10/aai-proposes-new-atheist-symbol.html
Walkabout
Posted on April 28, 2012 at 7:40pmBruce P.
You missed the whole Jesus thing. Oh yes you did.
Jesus says that he came in fulfillment of the Old Testament.
So Adulterers are supposed to be stoned in the Old Testament. But Jesus also said let those without sin cast the first stone. That doesn’t mean that Jesus is okay with adultery. He says adultery is still abhorrent. But as the Son of God he can change the rules.
All the laws of the Bible are still in effect & they pertain to us except for Jesus has a more nuanced approach. That & there are laws that apply to Jews & not to the rest of us. I don’t see a problem here.
There are several posters that could explain it better than I can who post here, but I think I covered it.
Report Post »The-Monk
Posted on April 28, 2012 at 7:49pm@Bruce P.
Report Post »Let’s see…. an “A” encompassed by a “circle” (or a hole). Yep… an A hole. That’s you and your group all right. Or should I say, “All Left”? Waaaaay left. Almost Saul Alinsky Left. Read the book, “Rules for Radicals” lately? Or course you have.
momrules
Posted on April 28, 2012 at 7:51pmThe-Monk……….Thanks for letting me know what the logo means. I rarely respond to the atheist’s remarks on the Blaze, but after seeing that video my blood just started boiling and Bruce’s smirky assurances that he is right and every Christian is wrong just irritated me even more.
I knew I was right that Bruce didn’t want an honest debate, he just wanted to see if he could trip anyone up, As I said……a minion of Satan.
Report Post »momrules
Posted on April 28, 2012 at 8:00pmOh and Monk……thank you for the links. I’ve already checked them out. These poor, poor, foolish people.
Report Post »The-Monk
Posted on April 28, 2012 at 8:13pm@momrules
Report Post »You’re welcome. And BTW, the “P” in BruceP doesn’t stand for plick. ; )
momrules
Posted on April 28, 2012 at 8:43pmThank you one more time MONK……….your last post made me laugh and I do so love to laugh.
Report Post »Bruce P.
Posted on April 28, 2012 at 9:09pmMOMRULES and THE_MONK, while you are accusing me of being closed-minded and not wanting honest debate, you are showing that you are, in fact, the ones incapable of open-mindedness or honest debate. Instead of engaging me in reasoned discussion, you instead rely on insults, dismissals and red-herring tactics. THE_MONK engages in the same “Rules for Radicals” tactics he accuses me off. (from Wikipedia: According to Alinsky, the main job of the organizer is to bait an opponent into reacting. “The enemy properly goaded and guided in his reaction will be your major strength.”)
And you are right, the “P” doesn’t stand for “Plink”. It is my last initial, Priddy. Look me up on Facebook. I am not ashamed or afraid of my beliefs and have no need for a pseudonym.
Report Post »FanofLiberty
Posted on April 28, 2012 at 9:46pmBruce, I don’t hear MOM and MONK calling you names, I think they feel sorry for you as do I. They explained it to you quite well, but you don’t want to understand. You’re objection is not intellectual but spiritual, and there’s nothing we mortals can do about that, we can only pray that one day God will open your heart. I’m glad they tried though, maybe someone who’s heart is open heard what was said.
Report Post »Blammo
Posted on April 28, 2012 at 10:10pm@Bruce P.
Here is one of the most taken out of context passages of scripture.
It is the perfect answer to Bruce about whether Christians are expected to kill people for sexual sins.
John 8:1-11 Jesus went unto the mount of Olives. And early in the morning he came again into the temple, and all the people came unto him; and he sat down, and taught them. And the scribes and Pharisees brought unto him a woman taken in adultery; and when they had set her in the midst, They say unto him, Master, this woman was taken in adultery, in the very act. Now Moses in the law commanded us, that such should be stoned: but what sayest thou? This they said, tempting him, that they might have to accuse him. But Jesus stooped down, and with his finger wrote on the ground, as though he heard them not. So when they continued asking him, he lifted up himself, and said unto them, He that is without sin among you, let him first cast a stone at her. And again he stooped down, and wrote on the ground. And they which heard it, being convicted by their own conscience, went out one by one, beginning at the eldest, even unto the last: and Jesus was left alone, and the woman standing in the midst. When Jesus had lifted up himself, and saw none but the woman, he said unto her, Woman, where are those thine accusers? hath no man condemned thee? She said, No man, Lord. And Jesus said unto her, Neither do I condemn thee: go, and sin no more.
Report Post »FanofLiberty
Posted on April 28, 2012 at 10:11pmSorry Bruce, MONK might have called you a couple of names, but my comment still holds true.
Report Post »NanAugie
Posted on April 28, 2012 at 10:43pm@Bruce – makes no difference really as Christians follow the New Testament. But – not everything he said was correct – as you stated – at least not in the way that he implied. I could explain it all to you, but honestly it’s really so obvious…
Report Post »ddevonb73
Posted on April 29, 2012 at 12:52am“.there are over 31,000 Bible verses and the left picks and chooses the ones they want to use to bludgeon the Christians with. ”
Part of the reason so many people misunderstand the Bible is because they think there are over 31,000 Bible verses. There are books and there are letters and the whole bible tells one story. We must understand the plot of that story if we are to understand the details.
Report Post »Chapters and verses are just a reference devices that men invented to find specific things in the Bible. When we focus on “verses” it is very likely that we will take them out of context and misunderstand their actual meeting.
maccow
Posted on April 29, 2012 at 2:41amBruceP
Report Post »Have you ever been in debt? Had a student loan to pay off? Had a mortgage on a piece of land? Maybe filed for bankruptcy?
By biblical standards you have been a SLAVE. Such were indentured servants in biblical times.
Think about your own slavery to sin. Aren‘t you glad God didn’t just let you live in your slavery so that you could have eternal separation from Him in the afterlife? He made a way to pay off your debt to Him and the debt of the whole world. He freed us slaves from the bondage to sin.
If God had never addressed slavery and how slaves should rightly be treated, we would not have His object lesson to show us our bondage and Christ’s redemption.
Now can you better understand God’s use for slavery in the bible? God can use all of man’s vices and evil devices for His purposes and for His glory, even slavery. In the interim God also made sure in both the Old and New Testament to show us how to treat slaves in our midsts, even those enslaved to sin that show up at our door today.
I will leave it to you to glean what greater message God could use spousal virginity to teach us. Maybe you would see it in the way God refers to false religion as harlotry and the way the Church is the bride of Christ? But you go figure it out.
Ultimately it shows that God does not wink at sin and that the fear of the LORD is the beginning of wisdom.
Bruce P.
Posted on April 29, 2012 at 2:54amFANOFLIBERTY — You did not see them using insults? You must have missed these comments then…
THE-MONK
Posted on April 28, 2012 at 7:37pm
@Bruce P.
I got your number slimeball….
THE-MONK
Posted on April 28, 2012 at 7:49pm
@Bruce P.
Let’s see…. an “A” encompassed by a “circle” (or a hole). Yep… an A hole.
MOMRULES
Posted on April 28, 2012 at 7:51pm
I knew I was right that Bruce didn’t want an honest debate, he just wanted to see if he could trip anyone up, As I said……a minion of Satan.
At no time did they attempt to engage in debate. When asked that I be shown where I am wrong, they instead insulted and dismissed. At no point did they make any sort of a comment that could be consider cogent. They in effect plugged their ears with their fingers and stuck their tongues out.
But, perhaps I am misunderstanding. Using comments from THE_MONK and MOMRULES, please show me where they were trying to engage in reasoned discourse, illustrate the arguments they were making. Perhaps it got lost behind the “slimeballs” and “minion of satans.”
Report Post »Bruce P.
Posted on April 29, 2012 at 3:00amBLAMMO — you miss the point. The point was not that Christians should be stoning women for pre-marital sex. Rather, the point was Christians will use the Bible to justify the legislation preventing homosexual marriage or even to justify their hatred of homosexuals, while ignoring (and outright dismissing) what the Bible says about other “sins,” often not claiming those things as sins or engaging in such sins themselves.
Report Post »Blammo
Posted on April 29, 2012 at 11:55amBruce-
Jesus tells us to love our enemies. That we sometimes fail at this, does not negate the teaching.
No sin is okay, not one. We may differ on what is and isn’t sin. Having said that, you’re right christians are imperfect and sin daily. It is not right, however, to brush it off and have an everybody-does-it attitude.
Savage would be right to point out the hypocrisy of persons.
Report Post »The Bible is not guily, though, people are.
maccow
Posted on April 29, 2012 at 12:41pmBruceP
Report Post »Throughout the bible God uses the husband and wife theme as an example of the relationship between Christ and His Church. This is one way that homosexuality destroys what God intends for us to use as a way to better understand Him.
“For this reason a man shall leave his father and mother and be joined to his wife, and the two shall become one flesh. This is a great mystery, but I speak concerning Christ and the church.” Ephesians 5:31-32
Second; Homosexuality is just one of many “lifestyle” choices that separate us from God. I doubt that many thieves are praising and lifting up the name of God as they are breaking into a stranger’s house. The same is true about homosexual behavior, murder, adultery, lying, etc. and the bible calls these lifestyles sins. Living in sin means making lifestyle choices that we choose over the Christ centered lifestyle that God intends for us.
Jesus doesn’t want to be just one lifestyle choice on a list of your ten favorite lifestyles. Jesus wants to be number one on a list of one.
Who then is the true hater? Is it the Christian who shows love by pointing you to what the bible says is the way to eternal life? Or is it the one who would blind you to the love of Christ by affirming your sin that will eventually lead you to eternal separation from God?
jaylew
Posted on April 29, 2012 at 2:49pmand if I may Mom….the kids who walked away were attractive human beings and I mean that in only a wholesome sense……from my paternal viewpoint as pretty probably mostly very decent girls as well as a few handsome boys. Of course Savage could care less about pretty girls not being interested in what he has to say…..as we saw…he had to get the perennial gay reference in any gay conversation about girls they always resort to some form of the word “fish”…..but when the boys started walking out…Savage got defensive….that was not lost on me. He was calling the boys Pansy a$$es…not the girls….and so we see for sure…that Savage himself is little more than a weightlifting gay male bully. And NO Dan…you are not attractive. You have become what you fear most…irrelevant.
Report Post »barryswhitehalf
Posted on April 29, 2012 at 3:25pmBruce
Report Post »Being totally ignorant of religion must really be difficult for the practicing fool that believes in nothing.
FoxholeAtheist
Posted on April 29, 2012 at 4:59pmThey left because Xtians can’t defend their book. Start quoting the Bible to them and they leave. They can’t bear to hear the immorality and intolerance that stems from the pornography they worship. At least they were allowed to leave, which is one thing some Xtians don‘t allow other people’s children to do during an assembly.
Report Post »Blammo
Posted on April 29, 2012 at 5:46pmXHole,
It’s not too late to get on the right side.
The following is the Apostle Paul telling us a little bit about himself.
1 Timothy 1:12-15 And I thank Christ Jesus our Lord, who hath enabled me, for that he counted me faithful, putting me into the ministry; Who was before a blasphemer, and a persecutor, and injurious: but I obtained mercy, because I did it ignorantly in unbelief. And the grace of our Lord was exceeding abundant with faith and love which is in Christ Jesus. This is a faithful saying, and worthy of all acceptation, that Christ Jesus came into the world to save sinners; of whom I am chief.
Report Post »TRONINTHEMORNING
Posted on April 28, 2012 at 12:19pmHad to watch it again. Wow, those kids who booked, rock! Dan baby, you are missing the entire Bible’s meaning. You have to incorporate both Old and New Testaments to have the whole package. Dan, you need to wise up; but you also need to get out of public life. Because Dan, you are a miscreant, a fake, and an embarrassment.
Report Post »yougottabekidding
Posted on April 28, 2012 at 12:26pmWhat happens in the religion of peace?
Report Post »CatB
Posted on April 28, 2012 at 12:28pm@TRON … and I would like to add … A BULLY!
Afternoon TRON ;-)
Report Post »Bruce P.
Posted on April 28, 2012 at 12:35pmYes, you have to take the New Testament and Old Testament into consideration. Jesus himself said that his coming does not change anything in the Old Testament. Matthew 5:17-18, “Do not think that I have come to abolish the Law or the Prophets; I have not come to abolish them but to fulfill them. For truly I tell you, until heaven and earth disappear, not the smallest letter, not the least stroke of a pen, will by any means disappear from the Law until everything is accomplished.”
Report Post »TRONINTHEMORNING
Posted on April 28, 2012 at 12:44pmHappy Saturday, CATB!
Report Post »BrutalTruth
Posted on April 28, 2012 at 2:29pmBruce, I think the part your missing is that if you live by the law your lost. It is faith that saves.
Report Post »hatchetjob
Posted on April 28, 2012 at 3:22pmBRUCE P., Let he who is without sin cast the first stone. That is in the New Testament, the Gospel of John.
Report Post »Alessandre
Posted on April 28, 2012 at 5:17pmWhat are you trying to get at Bruce P? Are you upset because we don’t stone those found guilty of sexual sin? Do you want to understand what Jesus means by “fulfill the law”? You continue to repeat quotations but offer no understanding of what any of them mean. You seem to think that not changing the law means we will do everything as we once did. What is your understanding of the verse you quote? What is your understanding of Jesus’ response to the woman found in adultery as well as to her accusers? What is your understanding of living under the law of love?
Report Post »Belwraith
Posted on April 28, 2012 at 6:09pmYes, Bruce P. that’s what it said…why are you skipping over the part where Jesus said he came to fulfill the Law? He fulfilled it. It is accomplished. It is finished….
Report Post »cookcountypatriot
Posted on April 28, 2012 at 12:19pmnever ever ever trust a progressive around your kids,,,,all these evil beings want to do is disregard everything you are teaching your kids,,,,progressivism is a mental disorder….when they dont get what they want ,,they bully and nows the time for them,having thier master bully in the white house…fear not,november americans will purge this country of these anti americans..
Report Post »PATTY HENRY
Posted on April 29, 2012 at 2:22amI can’t imagine what life would be like as a Gay person. I think they only make up about 7% of the population. I believe they think that they have the right to force their life style (strength in numbers) on others. BUT BOTTOM LINE: I think that every person who received any Education in the USA since the late 50′s is probably screwed up because the Commies (who admitted this last year) had plants in our schools; in our press; certainly in Hollywood and music business…and their main goal was to 1) corrupt America 2) remove our morality 3) destroy our faith Of course they didn’t make it in Russia but their poison did. Lazy people love Communism, they love the idea of not having to work “that” hard and still get ‘everything’. Arianna Huffington is an aging, bitter old broad whose husband (whom she thought could be Pres. of USA) ended up as an outted GAY GUY (messed up his CA political race he was expected to win) All of these immature Liberals, these messed up kids who have been fed MISINFORMATION for 60 years are coming home to roost.
Report Post »What none of the “would be Commies” get is that is still a “good ol‘ boy’ network only if you’re not in it, you do stay downtrodden. At least in Freedom, poor people have a chance ! THINKABOUT IT.
happyscrapper
Posted on April 28, 2012 at 12:16pmWhat bullies like this twit can’t seem to comprehend is the unbelievable hypocrisy in their words. This moron comes before a student body under the pretext of discussing anti-bullying, then uses a bully pulpit to blaspheme Christianity. What scares me the most is they are so wrapped in their agenda, that anyone disagreeing with them deserves and GETS insults, ridicule, sarcasm, anger and vile language. I applaud those students who stood up for their beliefs and left the auditorium. This is Christian persecution, straight up.
Report Post »HappyStretchedThin
Posted on April 28, 2012 at 12:27pmBring on the Christian persecution, I say! “For so persecuted they the prophets who were before you”! If we’re not in a place where the anti-Christians can point at us and mock us, then we’re in the wrong place anyway. Standing up for what’s right and leaving this supposed anti-bullying bully to his rant build character–which is the REAL way to stand up to REAL bullies. Sticks and stones may break my bones, but words will never sway THIS Christian from his Christian course.
Report Post »happyscrapper
Posted on April 28, 2012 at 12:35pmI am no longer willing to turn the other cheek. It just emboldens satan. I want these creeps GONE. They need to be carefully vetted before getting any speaking engagements, especially at schools. Kids get enough propaganda at the government houses of brainwashing as it is.
Report Post »BrutalTruth
Posted on April 28, 2012 at 2:27pmEph 5:11 Do not participate in the evil deeds of darkness, but instead, even expose them.
Not a real winning thought to the Politically Correct crowd.
Report Post »4xeverything
Posted on April 28, 2012 at 12:15pmSounds sociopathic to me.
Report Post »Razlord
Posted on April 28, 2012 at 12:14pmAlex Jones: Defeating The Technocratic Totalitarian Elite
Report Post »http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o9EJh_A_DgY&list=UUvsye7V9psc-APX6wV1twLg&index=1&feature=plcp
Master_and_Commander
Posted on April 28, 2012 at 12:14pmthis guy doesn’t deserve the title of anti-bullying crusader, he’s an absolute joke and a total disgrace.
Report Post »lbyrd26
Posted on April 28, 2012 at 12:17pmIs this right. This bully is using antibullying to bully christians. Do you see the folly of left wing ideology here. It’s do as I demand, not as I do!
Report Post »Silversmith
Posted on April 28, 2012 at 5:46pmNo kidding!!! Another liberal wrapping themselves in self-rigtheousness over a “good cause” that they themselves are guilty of.
I‘d laugh if this wasn’t so common today.
Silversmith
Report Post »Itsjusttim
Posted on April 28, 2012 at 12:14pmYeah those Christians are such bullies, that must be why the Catholics rioted in L.A. in ‘92, and must be why the Pope is always having riot planning meeting with Frances Fox Pivens. And while people are Christians, of course it doesn’t mean they are of the godly understanding, because those people with godly understanding, now they really are big bullies – especially like King David in his youth – with the way David ‘slung’ the ‘Word’ of God to smack Goliath right square in the forehead, and it sunk into Goliath’s forehead – Probably because Goliath didn’t have the mark of the beast in his forehead – therefore the word of God penetrated Goliath’s forehead.
Report Post »happyscrapper
Posted on April 28, 2012 at 12:19pmNext time, speak English. None of what you said made any sense whatsoever. What are you smoking?
Report Post »Itsjusttim
Posted on April 28, 2012 at 12:25pmOf course it makes sense, people such as yourself included believe David slung a stone hitting Goliath in the forehead literally like a modern day slingshot. And then you believe David drew Goliath‘s big shiny sword out of it’s scabbard and using Goliath’s own sword, cut off Goliath’s head. And people believe that because they don’t even want to believe Christianity and the way Jesus spoke of the sword of his mouth.
Report Post »NHwinter
Posted on April 28, 2012 at 12:27pmhappyscrapper – it took me a while to understand what Tim is trying to say, but I get it now. He actually is accurate. Very sarcastic in his writings, but funny.
Report Post »Itsjusttim
Posted on April 28, 2012 at 12:27pmBut then after David became an actual King over all Israel he began to shed too much blood to have his own son named God’s son.
Report Post »82dAirborne
Posted on April 28, 2012 at 12:31pm@happyscrapper – I’m afraid you are wasting your time. As a special project I have read many of his posts. Try as I may I have NEVER understood any of them. If you ever figure him out please be sure to let me know!
Report Post »NHwinter
Posted on April 28, 2012 at 12:42pmhappyscrapper – on second thought, he lost me with his subsequent thoughts. So, never mind.
Savage sounds like he is talking more about Islam than American Law. He must only read the OT. What a sad example of a human being he is. What a disgrace to our educational system. Parents, time to rise up and get the socialists and marxists out of our schools.
Report Post »Belchfire V-8
Posted on April 28, 2012 at 7:34pmHey, little Timmy, I gather that you don’t play well with other people.
Report Post »The-Monk
Posted on April 28, 2012 at 8:20pm@Belchfire V-8
“Hey, little Timmy, I gather that you don’t play well with other people.”
My guess is that little Timmy plays well with himself….
Report Post »burdenedsoul
Posted on April 28, 2012 at 10:15pmHey Timmy,
Report Post »it’s me again, I just wanted to remind you that you are still absolutely f%$#in crazy. See you in the next room.
Btw, this video should prove what we are up against as a nation. I truly admire the courage of these young people in their ability to do what is right even when figures of authority tell them it is wrong. I remember things like this when I was in school. I was one of ten people to walk out on a health teacher that gave a seminar to over 100 students about how abortion can give you a second chance at being successful in life. One of the people with me was a 17 year old girl who was 6 months pregnant. The educational system in this country is something that twist people and breaks them, only the most righteous of us even survive it with any sense of self and even then how much of that is just luck. This and things like it give me hope, and I think that hope is what we all need right now.
RealAmerican2
Posted on April 28, 2012 at 12:12pmThis guy is unprofessional and a bully himself, and has no right to be up in front of students giving ANY KIND of speech! If he’s supposed to be talking about bullying, why is is making references to sex, birth control, the Bible, Republicans… I mean, REALLY??? This guy was on a mission to campaign for the upcoming election and had no intent on giving a presentation on bullying. This is despicable to say the least and if my child were at that school and had to listen to this guy’s hate speech, the school would be in A LOT of trouble and I’d make sure I had plenty of support to make sure nothing like this EVER happened again! This was suppose to be about making kids feel better about themselves, and this yahoo veered completely away from what he was hired for, and made some kids feel really bad – NOW WHO’S THE BULLY???
Report Post »Balpit
Posted on April 28, 2012 at 2:39pmWhat next, hiring Klansmen to teach racial tolerance?
Report Post »maccow
Posted on April 29, 2012 at 12:52pmBalpit
Report Post »No, it will be the Black Panthers, not the KKK and its already a reality.
TRONINTHEMORNING
Posted on April 28, 2012 at 12:12pmThis Dan fellow is a know-nothing and a lib not be listened to or trusted. I sent the little jerk an email yesterday after reading this story elsewhere. No response yet. I hope he didn’t feel bullied. My email was very courteous; unlike his behaviour at that speech.
Report Post »IDONTTHINKSO
Posted on April 28, 2012 at 12:09pmReally proud of those that got up and walked out! They said more about their beliefs than the one speaking!
Report Post »AmazingGrace8
Posted on April 28, 2012 at 2:15pmAgree with your post. The way the “liberal education system” is here, my concern is what happens to the Christian students? Will they be targeted (had to ask the obvious) and get an “incomplete-grade” because they did not complete the assignment? I ask that because Rush L had a college-student on his radio show on Friday & asking good/probing questions & before starting the answering of the student’s questions, Rush asked if the student worries he will get an “F”. (Relax you liberals) We conservatives joke but we have concerns because of the liberal/slant in our education system 1-12 grades & colleges/univer..
Report Post »Mark0331
Posted on April 28, 2012 at 12:08pmAll the rabid left can do now is try and score points by attacking Christianity, cheering homosexuality, cheer on a failing and incompetent Barry,denigrate anyone who disagrees with them, riot and throw temper tantrums like mixed up schoolkids…sad that the Democrats and their leaders support this mindset. They have become the drunken a***ole who no one likes and will not leave your house party.
Report Post »Popp40
Posted on April 28, 2012 at 8:21pm@Mark0331….just think if Islam takes over….this guy is in for a very rude awaking…or should I say a rude death. It’s funny how they attack Christians on this, however, they never say anything about Islam and how they view homosexuals.
Report Post »lukerw
Posted on April 28, 2012 at 12:08pmLOL :) Beat on the Bible.. and Beat up Christian Kids… you Bully!
Report Post »Kopen
Posted on April 29, 2012 at 4:49pmsome have been “beating up” On the BIBLE and CHRISTIANS for 2000+ years and .. Guess what the “BOOK” and us are still around ..
Report Post »GOD BLESS AMERICA
MDDAWG
Posted on April 28, 2012 at 12:08pmThis perverted young man should have never been asked to speak to high school students. When he does, it is tacit approval of his ideas by the school administration. What was even more alarming, however, was the cheering that occurred when he bashed the GOP and the Bible, offecnding many students and insinuating that they would stone women. The cheering students were the ones who probably needed a message about bullying more than the ones that walked out. The Christian religion that I belong to teaches me to love my enemies and do good to them that persecute you.
I was very pleased with the number of students who had the guts to get up and walk out of the offensive BS this guy was spewing.
He said people were dying because they are anti-gay. Oh, really. I know that they are dying because of AIDS, which is primarily a homosexual and promiscuous disease.
Report Post »xstone1970
Posted on April 28, 2012 at 12:08pmThey wish he had stayed more on target? It was a teachable moment? Wow the left dismisses everything they do, but if he had praised the Bible he would have been stoned and all the kids would have had to go to counsling!
Report Post »IDONTTHINKSO
Posted on April 28, 2012 at 12:06pmI am sorry but, I was bullied a good part of my child hood! Teachers saw it, even talked about it with counselors. Put my fist up side his head one day, never got bullied again! I’m sure that is or was the wrong thing to do, but it worked!
Report Post »Mark0331
Posted on April 28, 2012 at 12:11pmIt has worked for 100′s of years…nothing stops a bully like a fist sandwich served cold to the mouth.
Report Post »blanco5
Posted on April 28, 2012 at 12:16pmPretty much the ONLY way to stand up to bullying! I wish someone could have punched this guy, but then he would have run out crying like a girl.
Report Post »momrules
Posted on April 28, 2012 at 12:35pmNothing wrong with what you did. Bullies are cowards who only go after the weakk. My son was bullied. After trying to get the school authorities to intervene and never getting results I gave him my son permission to beat the hell out of the kid who was his prime bully. The kid made the mistake of hitting my son one more time on the back of thhe head as he passed my seated son to exit the school bus. My son attacked, rode him down to the floor and finished that one kid’s days of bullying him for good.
Report Post »Everybody on the bus took my son’s side and he never got in trouble, especially from me.
AmazingGrace8
Posted on April 28, 2012 at 2:36pmSorry, can’t remember the company who did the ad, but remember the ad with the actor who has that “drill-Sargent” voice & attitude. There is a guy “whining & crying” about nonsense (this could be the kid years later who was throwing a fit about the baseball incident) & “the Sarge” is listening & had about enough of him & says something like, “mambee-pambee” & other words and then “throws him a box of kleenex”. What you go through & sometimes you can’t control, eventually you stand-up & brush yourself off & obey God and leave all the consequences to Him. P.S. Know what is trouble & if all possible, don’t let yourself “get-set-up”. There are miserable people in this world..avoid as much as possible. Oh, I didn’t vote Obama.
Report Post »henryKnox
Posted on April 28, 2012 at 9:13pmIt may have been exactly the right thing to do. It may have been the only thing this person could understand and it may have set his life on a better path. I‘m sure he wasn’t permanently harmed by your action. In this story the Anti-Bully turns out to be the real bully. Reminds me of the current administration. They always project onto their enemies the very worst traits that they themselves possess.
Report Post »Razlord
Posted on April 28, 2012 at 12:06pmteach your kids self respect and defense…
will not be any bullies…
this bs is just to teach all to look to the authorities for protection.
Report Post »beckwill
Posted on April 28, 2012 at 12:05pmBait and switch. Typical liberal who knows nobody wants to hear what he has to say.
Report Post »Fubared
Posted on April 28, 2012 at 12:05pmMore BS we pay for. Some regions have curse and abuse laws, but instead we pay for agenda BS “for the children” as the lefties love to say. Kudos for those kids for walking out. Pansy ass (his word) sounds like a bully, with just bully **** for sale. Yay lefty agenda. Where does he fit in the big tent with the Muslim Brotherhood? Maybe if he could reword his speachy and take into consideration the Sharia ramifications of the LGBLT, no mayo, agenda I would look at it more.
Report Post »beckwill
Posted on April 28, 2012 at 12:13pmPerhaps we should use your statement to measure all future BS from the left. How does it fit in the big tent with the muslim brotherhood? very good.
Report Post »PIGSWILLNEVERFLY
Posted on April 28, 2012 at 12:26pmHow do these types of people live in there own screwed-up heads? By lashing out at others. All liberals ARE exactly what they preach against. They justify themselves by lying to themselves and turning the tables and condemning the other which they do not understand because if they did they would be self-condemned. Power Trippers, Manipulators, Bullies themselves. They want Power to change other people to be like them, so they can live in their own warped brain…They have NO PEACE and don’t want anyone else to have peace either. They won’t change, it’s too hard so they go about infecting everyone else they can. EViL.
Report Post »Bronx
Posted on April 28, 2012 at 12:03pmProfessing themselves to be wise, they become fools.
Report Post »drbage
Posted on April 28, 2012 at 12:00pmTypical lefty who is the smartest person in the room and feels that he can do whatever he wants while dictating the “do as I say, not as I do” philosophy.
Report Post »Individualism
Posted on April 28, 2012 at 12:00pmFreedom of speech and we should defend it for everyone even jerks like this man.
Report Post »Fubared
Posted on April 28, 2012 at 12:07pmAnd those kids showed theirs. What irks me is the for the children mantra. When do the children get bible studies in school again? Only private huh? How about keeping the propaganda crap private too? Only lefty schools, where the lefties can pay for it. Fair being the buzz word and all.
Report Post »DIVINEPROVIDENCE1776
Posted on April 28, 2012 at 12:09pmThat’s right!
Report Post »xstone1970
Posted on April 28, 2012 at 12:09pmNo, this does not constitute Freedom of speech, sorry but it is a school assembly where he was brought to speak on a specific subject, he should have been shut down and sent out.
Report Post »82dAirborne
Posted on April 28, 2012 at 12:11pmYou are right. He absolutely has freedom of speech! That is his right. However he does not have the right to be heard. I applaud the students who walked out. They had that right as well.
Report Post »wolverine
Posted on April 29, 2012 at 9:52amHe can talk all he wants to but I don‘t have to listen and I damn sure don’t have to pay for his free speech
Report Post »bluesdog
Posted on April 28, 2012 at 11:59amI dare him to make the same comments about islam.
Report Post »Bruce P.
Posted on April 28, 2012 at 12:23pmIslam is not the dominant religion of the United States and is not the basis by which politicians are attempting to legislate “morality.”
Report Post »momrules
Posted on April 28, 2012 at 12:26pmThey will never go after Islam. They know Islam is Satan ruled and they approve by their silence. Christ is the target of these Satan worshipers.
Report Post »Bruce P.
Posted on April 28, 2012 at 12:38pmAgain, Islam is not the dominant religion of the United States, nor is Islam the basis by which politicians are trying to legislate “morality”. Criticizing Islam does nothing to combat those here, in this country, that are using the Bible to control others.
Report Post »Mark0331
Posted on April 28, 2012 at 12:48pm@BruceP… Hey freedom of speech and all, I get it and respect it…but the question posed in this thread is why won’t the left go after a religion, Islam, that IS forcing its will down the throats of millions through rape, torture and genocide as we speak?? No one is forcing the Bible down your throat…but yet Islam gets a pass? Turn on the News and see if Muslims are not involved in yet another heinous act, go ahead…wipe the ‘clouds’ from your eyes. ‘What religion is literally forcing itself down the throats of MILIONS at gunpoint, Church burnings and car bombings?’ What is Islam, Alex.
Report Post »pennswoods
Posted on April 28, 2012 at 2:09pmBruce. Would it be “fair” for Dan Savage to point out to Muslim students at a public high school in majority Muslim Dearborn, Michigan the hatred in the Koran against gays and women? He would never have the guts to tell them the Koran demands Muslims hate gays and treat women like dirt or that they are killed, today in2012, all over the Islamic world where Islamic Law of Sharia dominates a majority Muslim country.What Christian morals offend you? Jesus’s Sermon on the Mount or his constantly asking us to love (help) others especially strangers?
Report Post »Walkabout
Posted on April 28, 2012 at 2:11pmBruce P.
Islam is not the dominant religion of the United States and is not the basis by which politicians are attempting to legislate “morality.”
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Cop out. 57 Islamic Nations out 195 or almost 30%. given demographic trends it is or will be an issue very soon. Bruce P. dare not speak out against Islam. He is scared no doubt.
Report Post »TomSawyer
Posted on April 28, 2012 at 2:17pmBruce P. you are very fond of the phrase legislate morality. Why don’t you define that before you post several more times. What does that mean?
Report Post »Bruce P.
Posted on April 28, 2012 at 3:19pmWALKABOUT — it is not a cop-out. If there is a Muslim preaching against gay rights, women’s rights, freedom of speech, and so forth, in this nation, you better damn well believe we will criticize them. And if you decry to talk about the atrocities Islam inflicts on women and religious minorities in other countries, I’ll be right there beside you condemning those evils.
But when discussing how politicians in this country are attempting to legislate morality, it makes no sense to attack Islam, as Islam is not the dominant religion, not the religion of the vast majority of politicians, not the religion of those who have the power to force their “morality” on other people. Christians are that religion.
Report Post »From Virginia
Posted on April 28, 2012 at 6:22pmnswer the question, Bruce. WHAT morality is being legislated? All I see is IMMORALITY being legislated (i.e. gay mariage).
Report Post »Git-R-Done
Posted on April 28, 2012 at 8:18pmBruce P. – You radical secularists are also trying to legislate your version of morality down the throats of Americans.
What do you call anti-discrimination laws, hate crime laws, hate speech laws, etc.?
Report Post »colt1860
Posted on April 28, 2012 at 9:42pm@BruceP. DAN SAVE IS A LIAR, RADICAL, AND DECEIVER.
“Without morals a republic cannot subsist any length of time; they therefore who are decrying the Christian religion, whose morality is so sublime and pure (and) which insures to the good eternal happiness, are undermining the solid foundation of morals, the best security for the duration of free governments.” Charles Carroll, signer of the Declaration of Independence.
“In my view, the Christian religion is the most important and one of the first things in which all children, under a free government ought to be instructed….No truth is more evident to my mind than that the Christian religion must be the basis of any government intended to secure the rights and privileges of a free people.” Noah Webster, author of THE American Dictionary.
“While we are zealously performing the duties of good citizens and soldiers, we certainly ought not to be inattentive to the higher duties of religion. To the distinguished character of Patriot, it should be our highest glory to add the more distinguished character of Christian.” George Washington, 1st President of the US
“The general principles on which the fathers achieved independence were the general principles of Christianity. I will avow that I then believed, and now believe, that those general principles of Christianity are as eternal and immutable as the existence and attributes of God.” John Adams, 2nd President of the US
Report Post »FanofLiberty
Posted on April 28, 2012 at 10:06pmBruce, I have news for you, all legislation is about morality. If there’s no moral standard, God, everything is just opinion. Whether Hilter was right or Mother Theresa was right is just his opinion against her’s without a moral standard. If murder, rape, theft is right or wrong is just a matter of perspective.
Report Post »Chet Hempstead
Posted on April 29, 2012 at 4:18amHe does. Mr. Savage has been a frequent and vocal critic of oppression of women and gays in Islamic countries, and unwavering in demanding that Muslims emigrating to the west must leave that behind and embrace our standards of equality and individual liberty.
Report Post »maccow
Posted on April 29, 2012 at 1:35pmBruceP
Report Post »Who are the ones that see it as immoral that some have health care while others don’t? Who see it as immoral to deny a woman the choice of an abortion as a means of contraception? Who is preaching the immorality of not funding woman’s abortifacients? Etc. etc.
It is not the Christians alone who legislate morality, get it?
Judging by the laws being passed I would conclude that secular humanistic morality is what is being legislated and unlike Christians, humanists answer to no higher power than self. With Christian morality, at least you get a standard that has been around for a while.
Nancy Pelosi (RC), Harry Reid (LDS), Rev. Wallis, Rev Flager, The Revs.SharptonJacksonWright, are seeing more of their “Christian” morality imposed upon us then anything any Christian on this sight would care to see.
Bottom line Bruce is that the tired old line about Christians wanting to force their morality down everyones throat is actually TRUE. Because we love this country, and all its people, homosexuals, blacks, hispanics, white, yellow, purple, young, old, and un-born enough to battle against the secular humanist’s destructive legislative morality. We don’t like the Godlessness and Lawlessness that your children are being forced to endure.
And don’t even get me started on the encroaching morality of Sharia Law.
bluesdog
Posted on April 28, 2012 at 11:59amHe’s just one more left hypocrite bully.
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