Anti-Capitalist Teach-In Leader: ‘We Have People Organizing Inside of the Military’
- Posted on November 15, 2011 at 10:33am by
Billy Hallowell
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Over the weekend, Adam Kokesh (”Adam vs. the Man”) headed down to Occupy D.C.’s “Anti-Capitalist Teach-In,” where he captured some curious comments from participants. Among the bizarre statements to come from protesters was the notion that Occupiers may be organizing within the military in an effort to see a “revolution” unfold.
“Rod,” a self-described member of the Progressive Labor Party, said that he and his compatriots have been encouraging others to “think in terms of building revolution against this whole system of capitalism.” He went on to say that the fight must be taken to industrial workers, the military, campuses — even churches.
“The other thing we stress is building a base in the military. If we’re talking about revolution, it means we have to win other some section of the military to be on our side and most of them are working class people just like the rest of us…We have people organizing inside the military…,” Rod explained (around 1:50). He continued:
“Our goal is to have everybody in the party, everything organized collectively, everything coordinated, everyone engaged in the discussion and the debate. Our feeling is that some of the worst behavior is the idea of making profit off of another person.”
He also went on to praise soldier who refused orders during Vietnam.
During the course of Kokesh’s discussion with the protesters, it seems there was some confusion over what “capitalist production” means. It didn’t take long for the protesters to tire of his questioning.
At one point, one of the participants asked Kokesh if he’s a “prostitute,” due to his support of capitalist ideals.
Truly bizarre. Watch it, below:
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Comments (435)
DeeDeeBear
Posted on November 15, 2011 at 11:22amI am an Army veteran and I am secretly hoping that our smart military generals have a mission in place to have a bloodless way to take Obama out of the White House in the event of a Marxist take over. I keep reminding myself that we all took an oath that said we would support and defend the constitution of the United States against all enemies foreign and domestic. I don’t think there is a statute of limitations on that oath either. Just sayin….hope I am not alone out here in that thought.
Report Post »voicecheck1
Posted on November 15, 2011 at 11:35amLoud and clear ^ DDB
Report Post »mikem1969
Posted on November 15, 2011 at 11:36amAmen brother. The problem with them having organized military members on their side is that they will not hesitate to fire on AMERICAN CITIZENS, where true military members that uphold the US and the constitution would have a problem with it. And yes, libs and progressives and especially obahitlerstalinmao ARE ENEMIES FROM WITHIN. I too was in the military, and will not hesitate to protect our country from these enemies.
Report Post »mils
Posted on November 15, 2011 at 11:38amSomehow…someway…Obama needs to be taken out…although I do not think he’s actually the head of the snake. He is an instrument
The military needs to be purged..gangs, muslims on missions to destroy us, etc..
Report Post »AJAYW
Posted on November 15, 2011 at 11:38amOn board
Report Post »SmallGovBigGuns
Posted on November 15, 2011 at 11:42amamen! we keep electing people that hate the constitution but yet they are sworn to defend it? true patriots need to stand for the constitution against all of our foreign and growing domestic threats.
Report Post »Obomb_is_Toast
Posted on November 15, 2011 at 11:47amBarack Hussein Obama needs to be removed NOW…he is an enemy of the state
Report Post »TH30PH1LUS
Posted on November 15, 2011 at 11:53amThese OWS leaders are calling for open revolution and war inside America. An overthrow of the American economy and Constitution from within our military and churches. These OWS traitors are advocating violence, because they know their Communist ideas will be rejected wholesale by the public. Unfortunately, their ideas are embraced by Obama, and his administration.
Report Post »powhatan
Posted on November 15, 2011 at 11:54amI am with you!
Report Post »dmerwin
Posted on November 15, 2011 at 12:00pmVery good point on the oath, government officials also swear to “protect and defend”. Some how I think that trying to find ways of limiting the 2nd amendment is not following the spirit of the oath, i.e. violating. It is time that “we the people” remind our elected leaders that we expect them to follow this to the letter.
Report Post »powhatan
Posted on November 15, 2011 at 12:00pmcheck our plp.org
Report Post »Jomil48
Posted on November 15, 2011 at 12:01pmthey might have a person in the white house, they might have some socialists politicians, and they might even have some progessive egg head generals on their side, but they don’t have the boots on the ground back bone of the military. we took the oath to defend the constitution against enemies, and prior military or active duty, we will do just that, defend.
Report Post »Rothbardian_in_the_Cleve
Posted on November 15, 2011 at 12:02pmRoger that. I’m in. Hoo-ah!!!
Report Post »motocrossed
Posted on November 15, 2011 at 12:02pmCheck out websites us patriots union and veteran defenders for america!
Report Post »dmerwin
Posted on November 15, 2011 at 12:03pm@mikem1969
Actually polls have been taken in the military and there is great reluctance to fire on US citizens who are orderly and obeying the law. The law of self preservation would I’m sure allow them to shut down a riot.
Report Post »tnchick
Posted on November 15, 2011 at 12:05pmI am so glad you said that because that is what I have been thinking about, wondering about, dreaming about. Surely all the smart patriotic military people do not have blinders on about what is going on, and maybe they are farther on down the road than we know — I can’t believe they would stand by and allow the unthinkable.
Report Post »Dont-hate-on-me-2
Posted on November 15, 2011 at 12:06pmIm right beside you brothers.
Report Post »TiltingWindmills
Posted on November 15, 2011 at 12:07pmThere are many civilians that are like-minded in support of the constitution.
Report Post »loriann12
Posted on November 15, 2011 at 12:08pmI and my husband are Navy veterans and I’m with you. I know my husband had to deal with gang members (with the tear drop tatoo for a confirmed kill) when he was an instructor. We both support Oath Keepers. To serve and protect our constitution from enemies both foreign and domestic.
Report Post »YUP YUP
Posted on November 15, 2011 at 12:12pmI have called some congressmen and have stated the same thing. Take out the enemies of our state. In the White House, congress, and the billionaires who bankroll the anti-American Progressive/communist/socialist who want to manage the decline of our dollar.
Report Post »juge
Posted on November 15, 2011 at 12:13pmnot ex-military, just a mom who carries and knows how to use it. i am with you. no way are my kids growing up in a marxist US.
Report Post »db321
Posted on November 15, 2011 at 12:18pmI am so glad to hear your comments – I was begaining to think that I was one of the few that did not get the memo that Obama is the choosen one. I hope your correct, and I hope that our Military would stand for the Constitution and not some false profit.
Report Post »Baron_Doom
Posted on November 15, 2011 at 12:20pmMy questions is… WHAT Capitalist system?!! The world has never truly seen Capitalism.
Report Post »Philo Beddoe
Posted on November 15, 2011 at 12:25pmPeople like these are enemy’s of the American way of life and should be treated as such.
Report Post »jens63
Posted on November 15, 2011 at 12:30pmDoes anyone else remember the oath of office at the inauguration had a minor flub. But enough so that they decided it should be taken again inside after the public ceremony? And the second time it was taken without a bible under hand. So was that anymore genuine than the first flubbed one?
Report Post »Lloyd Drako
Posted on November 15, 2011 at 12:32pmThere is absolutely nothing in the Constitution that precludes socialism. If a Marxist party were legally chosen by the voters, and then implemented legislation, even socialist legislation such as nationalizing banks or major industries or health care, in an entirely legal fashion, upheld by the courts, then a military takeover, presumably one engineered by officers, would be a clear breach of the Constitution and soldiers would be duty bound to disobey their orders.
txwheels
Posted on November 15, 2011 at 12:40pmDDB, I too am former/retired military (Army&Air Force) and I took that oath to heart as we all did. As far as I’m concerned, there is NO statute of limitations on it. If the SHTF count me in!
Report Post »DeeDeeBear
Posted on November 15, 2011 at 12:45pmto Lloyd Drako: Marxism: an inescapable road to tyranny and murder and it contradicts the United States Constituion and Liberty. Our founding fathers knew all about tyranny. I believe they had that in mind when they crafted the constitution in the first place.
Report Post »Berbel73
Posted on November 15, 2011 at 12:47pmDrako you’re an idiot, and know nothing of the constitution obviously. The constitution is the LAW, and laws can not be passed that go against it, period. You progressives make me sick, get the hell out of this country already we don’t want or need you here!!
Report Post »Rached Madcow SHOW
Posted on November 15, 2011 at 1:00pmIn Obama’s own books we learn that his parents, grandparents, and godfather are all Communist. Obama in college, chose Communist professors and friends. After college he surrounds himself with anti-American organizations. He wins the Presidency, Noble Peace Prize, not to mention his uncontested Illinois Senate seat. Since becoming President, he constantly shows his disdain for America and implements policies that cripples our economy and redistributes our wealth overseas. Even Glenn Beck dares not say “He is deliberately destroying our country.” Obama looks, acts, and quacks like a duck, but no one will call him a duck. Our elections are being stolen, but being asked to present an ID is discrimination. Joseph McCarthy is a joke (according to my public education), but every time I read a book published before 1965, there is story after story about Communist that were holding top Government positions. Old history books describe how Communist overthrow nations, and I feel as though we are 80% there. I’m reading a 1962 book (The Naked Rise of Communism) that tells me exactly why OWS calls itself the 99% aka Bolsheviks = the majority. The Communist have used this playbook time and time again. The Bolsheviks only got 17% of the vote, but the name plants the lie. Wikipedia plants the lie also. It says “The Bolsheviks were the majority faction in a crucial vote, hence their name.“ In the future Wikipedia will say ”The 99% were the majority faction in America, hence their name.
Report Post »USMCEOD
Posted on November 15, 2011 at 1:00pmUnderstand that it does them no good to have even a small amount of people “organized” in the military. I am not alone in my conviction that I would turn my rifle on one of my brothers in arms long before I allowed an over throw of the constitution. I am also not alone in the belief that those traitors to their oath will be shown no quarter, whether their minds had been polluted by marxism or not, they knew better. These people that are calling for revolution have never been to a war zone and had to fight. They have never seen true chaos all around them. They wouldn’t know what to do when the smell of burning garbage, open sewage and charred flesh filled their nose no matter where they went. These people will call for revolution and riot until there are no more police around to protect them from people like me. Active duty military by law cannot get involved in domestic issues. That does not mean I will not take off my chevrons and pick up my own rifle and do what I have sworn I will do to protect my family. It is coming folks, make no mistake. Ever wonder why the book of Revelation makes no comment of the most powerful military force that has ever set foot in the earth? Something big and unimaginable is going to have to happen for us not to be a key player. I just pray it happenes before my daughter is old enough to remember it.
Report Post »tnchick
Posted on November 15, 2011 at 1:07pmAlso, remember that many of the top military leaders in Nazi Germany conspired to, and attemted to, assassinate Hitler. I’m not advocating assassination, but it’s conceivable that there are at least some big thinkers talking about what to do IF…..
Report Post »Lloyd Drako
Posted on November 15, 2011 at 1:12pmDeeDeeBear:
You write, “Marxism: an inescapable road to tyranny and murder and it contradicts the United States Constituion and Liberty.”
Not at all. Marxism is an ideology which asserts that the replacement of capitalism by socialism is not only desirable, but inevitable. I myself don’t believe this at all, but Marxists do, and in the highly unlikely event that a Marxist party were ever legally to take control of the Federal government, it would be entirely constitutional for it to nationalize banks, health care, etc. You seem to have confused Marxism with Communism, a variant of Marxism which goes further in asserting that violent revolution, carried out by a “workers’ party” in defiance of the Constitution and the rule of law, will be required to implement socialism. All Communists are Marxists, but it does not follow that all Marxists are Communists, or even that all socialists are Marxists. Socialist and even Marxist parties in Europe, Israel and elsewhere, have operated entirely within a legal, democratic framewwork for decades, sometimes holding power and sometimes yielding power quite peacefully when the voters turned against them.
Berbel73: When you have an argument to advance, based on what the Constitution actually says, rather than juvenile invective, I’ll be happy to entertain said argument.
Report Post »TSUNAMI-22
Posted on November 15, 2011 at 1:14pm@ Lloyd Drako
There is absolutely nothing in the Constitution that precludes socialism. If a Marxist party were legally chosen by the voters, and then implemented legislation, even socialist legislation such as nationalizing banks or major industries or health care, in an entirely legal fashion, upheld by the courts, then a military takeover, presumably one engineered by officers, would be a clear breach of the Constitution and soldiers would be duty bound to disobey their orders.
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Read the preamble and then try to convince clearer thinking people that your statement holds water. The whole point of the Constitution was to break away from the oppressive practices from tyranny in place of FREEDOM. With that said, if the voters of said Marxist party and the elected administration itself would be, and currently is/are enemies to the Constitution. They fall into the category of DOMESTIC and should be removed swiftly and without prejudice.
Dismayed Veteran
Posted on November 15, 2011 at 1:23pmI was a Special Agent, US Army Counteritelligence Corps, during the latter part of Viet Nam. The revolutionaries tried to take over the military then and couldn’t do it. It was a bad time for the Army but it survived. The one thing the military will not permit is a mutiny or a strike. It didn‘t permit then and it won’t permit in now. Remember the UCMJ is the law in the military. There are too many member of the military who are proud rather than disaffected.
While the Counterintelligence Corps is no more but there are still Special Agents, Military Intelligence who probably already investigating.
Report Post »TSUNAMI-22
Posted on November 15, 2011 at 1:24pm@ Lloyd Drako
Marxism LEADS to Communism:
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World English Dictionary
Marxism (ˈmɑːksɪzəm) [Click for IPA pronunciation guide]
—n
the economic and political theory and practice originated by Karl Marx and Friedrich Engels that holds that actions and human institutions are economically determined, that the class struggle is the basic agency of historical change, and that capitalism will ultimately be superseded by communism.
Seems to me that a tool that leads to communism is an enemy to the Constitution.
Here’s my definition: Communism is a classless society where all the Marxists that brought it to be not only hang themselves, but have equal stake in creating the rope in which they accomplish this task.
Report Post »miljr11
Posted on November 15, 2011 at 1:32pmO.K. = Oath Keeper
Report Post »Marcia
Posted on November 15, 2011 at 1:34pmDEEDEEBEAR, you are not alone! I also took that oath and will defend it until death.
Report Post »eshaw380
Posted on November 15, 2011 at 1:47pmI took it, I may be a civi now, but I still abide by that oath. I will gladly fight these bass-turds if they think they can take us on, please by all means go for it. stay low, stay focused, and stay armed. I keep having this thought that we will need a strong militia soon.
Report Post »Espada
Posted on November 15, 2011 at 1:56pmMy wish, absolutely, but with the likes of McMullen, Petraeus (member of the CFR; One-World type), and Casey (General Politically Correct Muslim lover) at the helm, and the VERY few general officers, active or retired, who bother to sound conservative, I don’t hold out much hope.
This isn‘t your father’s military.
Report Post »OneofMany
Posted on November 15, 2011 at 1:58pmYou are NOT alone… notice my screen name OneOfMany…. :-) I would recommend getting to your local shooting range for practice though.
“A well regulated militia being necessary to the security of a free state, the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed.”
Report Post »Robert in Texas
Posted on November 15, 2011 at 2:07pmThe Occupy movement is a very pure definition of domestic enemy’s to the U.S. Constitution. Yes, there will be some in the military who will rise up against our country, but for the most part, the majority of our men and women in uniform truely love our country, and would never stoop to defy the constitution and bring down what has been the envy of the world for many years.
The reason we are in the state we are in right now, in terms of our economy, is BECAUSE of the very policies that were put in place by those with a socialized adgenda. The country took a huge turn for the worst during the Clinton Administration – patriots like Newt Gingrich did their best to avoid what was inevitable in the early 2000s through today. Now, we are suffering, and these folks want to push us over the edge.
I fear that Thursday, will be a day of true Rage in this country. Its already building up to be a day of hell I am sure in NYC, you can see it in the comments and words amongst those in the OWS movement via Twitter, Facebook, and other commentary throughout the net.
I will stand against them when the Revolution comes, that is for certain. In fact, I know NO-ONE who supports their cause… not even casual friends… we all will stand together, and I can assure you, marxism and/or socialism will never take full root in the United States Of America.
Report Post »HisServant
Posted on November 15, 2011 at 2:10pmWe are a constitutional republic, not a democracy. How often do you hear this mis-stated? This is not about the simple majority. That’s why the founders established a constitutional republic. The studied the failures of past purely democratic nations as well as other forms of governmental power. The knew a simple majority rule – a democracy – would lead to eventual failure. That’s why we swear an oath to defend the Constitution. It’s the foundation and underpining. When respected and followed, it prevents simple majority rule from establishing a tyrannical or marxist or whatever form of government. This is the brilliance of the founders. You can make changes, but it’s a hard and arduous process by intent!
Report Post »They knew the Progressives or Socialists or Marxists or Communists would come. They provided ‘We The People’ the power, but we have allowed a few corrupt and power-hungry officials as well as left-wing lunatics who are leaches on society to let us forget and cede power. Lloyd Dracko is ill-informed and ignorant. Our educational system breeds this.
It better stop, or the end will come, and it will affect EVERYONE!
Respect, cherish and defend the Constitution to the last breath. Are you willing to pledge like the founders- Our life, our liberty and our sacred honor? Who’s willing? I am.
gettinblownup
Posted on November 15, 2011 at 2:17pmi could not agree with you more
Report Post »Arc
Posted on November 15, 2011 at 2:20pmHear Hear DD…….I’m a retiree also and I keep my powder dry.
Report Post »Lloyd Drako
Posted on November 15, 2011 at 2:27pmTsunami:
It’s important to distinguish between “communism” with a small c and “Communism” with a capital c.
The former is a utopian fantasy of a new order of things under which everything will belong to everybody. Various attempts have been made to realize such a new order by non-violent means, some based in secular ideology, some in religion. Examples would include early Christian churches, 19th-century communes, and of course numerous countercultural “encampments” since the 1960s. Generally they have proven impractical and quickly broken down.
The latter is a modern movement, dating back no further than 1918, when the Bolsheviks changed their name to “Communist” some months after their seizure of power in Russia. Parties in many countries swiftly adopted the name. Communist parties are commonly dictatorial,conspiratorial, and committed to violent revolutionary overthrow of existing governments. Should any such movement, whatever it called itself, be found to have infiltrated the US military, it would most certainly have to be rooted out quickly. There I do not disagree.
However, I still see nothing in the Constitution, including the Preamble, that would preclude a peaceful, entirely constitutional, transition to socialism in the US at some time in the future, if voters wanted it, a duly elected Congress voted for it, a (presumably socialist) president signed off on it, and the courts upheld it. After all, the original Constitution was about stronger
Report Post »Lloyd Drako
Posted on November 15, 2011 at 2:29pmgovernment.
Report Post »11:11
Posted on November 15, 2011 at 2:36pmright there with you and thank you for your service :)
Report Post »Servant Of YHVH
Posted on November 15, 2011 at 2:45pmAs far as these OWS prostitutes go. Prostitutes because they are doing by being “pimped” by George Soros and his anti-American traitors. While I have as much respect and admiration for our soldiers and veterans, if there are people who are in the military on a plan to aid a revolution then as far as I’m concerned, if they do anything against what they swore to uphold then arrest them for treason and they can even reinstitute the firing squad for the traitors.
Report Post »gorrie
Posted on November 15, 2011 at 2:52pmYour Not,
Report Post »smithclar3nc3
Posted on November 15, 2011 at 3:02pmAnd we have true Americans in the military watching their brown shirts.
Report Post »Jezcruzen
Posted on November 15, 2011 at 3:03pmTake some solace over what is obviously a lack of organizational abilities by this tiny minority of parasites. But I’m with you on the Oath. I took it. I live by it still.
Report Post »smithclar3nc3
Posted on November 15, 2011 at 3:07pmThe military needs to be purged..gangs, muslims on missions to destroy us, etc..
We need to form a National Militia that will defend against the the enemies within our borders. A private Army of citizen who will stand the charge and protect the U.S. and Defend the Constitution.
Report Post »People of character,of integrity,People of a peaceful Loving God,and people of the Republic.
rangerp
Posted on November 15, 2011 at 3:14pmLeaders at the highest ranks in our military have sold out, drank the PC kool aid, and are lock step with Obama. They ended DADT with a smile on their face claimed it was about “respect”, and swept stats showing the level of assaults homosexuals commit against their fellow soldiers under the rug. They lied about how gay soldiers will raise the cost of military health care, when the jump in AIDS, syphilis, suicides….. go up drastically.
Under Slick Willy and his minion Togo West, there was a push in the 90s to start moving the military to the left. It has moved drastically.
The military we have now will be the military that a few years down the road starts going door to door, taking the guns and the Bibles. They have trained in counterinsurgency for over ten years. If you think you are going to hide behind your couch with you 1911 colt .45 and win, you are wrong.
Not only do we have gang problems, we have a decade or so of soldiers that are much more liberal than soldiers of the past. They were raised on MTV, lies from the MSM, indoctrination from the public school system, and little discipline, and low morals.
Keep it real.
Report Post »squirrel
Posted on November 15, 2011 at 3:14pmYou are not alone, I took that oath as well as many other, visit http://oathkeepers.org/oath/
Report Post »NOBAMA201258
Posted on November 15, 2011 at 3:38pmYou are not alone at all,we are the majority!
Report Post »georgiavietvet
Posted on November 15, 2011 at 3:40pmDEEDEEBEAR…………………..i have been wondering, alot lately, just what the military will do in the case of martial law being declared. will the generals follow the orders of obama, or will they tell obama to go to hell, and stand up for the constitution and the bill of rights. i truly believe that the future of our country depends on the answer to that question. if they follow obama’s orders, then we are lost. if they tell obama to go to hell, then we stand a good chance of beating back obama and his followers…………………………
Report Post »taxedout
Posted on November 15, 2011 at 3:48pmEven those of us who are non military, such as my husband and I will do our parts to defend our Constitution.
Report Post »Ironeagle
Posted on November 15, 2011 at 3:50pmAmen brother. I‘m a retired senior officer and I’m thinking the same way about this. Yes gangs have infiltrated the military, but they are no where near the numbers or the ranks needed to effect a rebellion. The good guys won’t let us down–I wouldn’t let our Constitution down while on active duty, “nor for the Republic from which it stands” and I won’t do it while I still draw breath. I take that oath to support and defend the Constitution of the US against all enemies foreign and domestic seriously–especially if that enemy is the President of the US.
Report Post »soxpatfan
Posted on November 15, 2011 at 3:50pmI think that when the time comes that there will be enough support with all Americans to Take Obama out of office the Constitutional way. But, you are right about the oath that all military, law enforcement, and civil servants have taken to uphold and defend the Constitution. There is NO expiration date, and I think that most of us will not forget that when the time comes to ante-up!!
Report Post »PoliticalJunkieToo
Posted on November 15, 2011 at 4:13pmIf you believe that soldiers, police, firemen and yourself should NOT obey laws in violation of the US Constitution join Oathkeepers.
http://Www.oathkeepers.org
(Watch the video with the flag on the far right side of screen or click below)
Oath Keepers Declaration of Orders We Will NOT Obey
Report Post »http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=Zztaj2AFiy8#!
Spirit of 1776
Posted on November 15, 2011 at 4:13pmI took that oath and is is as good today as it ever was. I pray that there is no mutiny in our military. But I am ready to defend my home and family if I need to.
Report Post »mikeytoonz
Posted on November 15, 2011 at 4:39pmHe needs to VOTED out of office. Let’s not get all crazy, fellas.
Report Post »old white guy
Posted on November 15, 2011 at 4:40pmi guess this person wants to get military personel shot for , What. treason. oh, wait barak the magic one is still alive.
Report Post »LaurieAnn
Posted on November 15, 2011 at 4:54pmI hope you are right!
Report Post »jb.kibs
Posted on November 15, 2011 at 5:24pmAdam Kokesh is great, i love listening to his interviews. i can’t believe how calm he remains.. lol
Report Post »kunman
Posted on November 15, 2011 at 5:39pmRoger that. I work with the military every day and there would have to be a lot of convincing to go against that oath. I truly believe if the left tried a Marxist takeover, the military would squash it pretty quick. The military is one of the most conservative groups out there. Think how many times their absentee ballots were “lost” or not counted. Liberals at the polls know a majority of them vote against them.
Report Post »YoungBloodNews
Posted on November 15, 2011 at 5:41pmA lot of politically active folks in the military support Ron Paul. Dr. Paul backs the Constitution so Id like to believe his supporters in the service know it well. I highly doubt any of them would back a socialist movement like this guy is calling for. As for the tree of liberty…
Report Post »The Bushmaster
Posted on November 15, 2011 at 5:44pmDEEDEEBEAR
Report Post »I have secretly wondered and hoped the same. After all, we swore an oath (I did 6 different times) to protect and defend the CONSTITUTION against ALL enemies. foreign AND domestic. Key words are CONSTITUTION (not politicians) FOREIGN AND DOMESTIC.
OathkeeperE7
Posted on November 15, 2011 at 6:17pmHey DEEDEEBEAR,
Report Post »You are right on the money, there is no expiration of your oath and military skills and training. taking all personal feelings out of it here, if you use Websters Dictionary to guide us, the vast majority of this administration are Egregiously in Violation of their oaths of Office. We need to make it an immediate removal from office when the oath is violated. obummer is in Double Jeopardy he is also blatantly in violation of Articles 99, 104, 134 of the UCMJ and many of his actions are Treasonous and should be dealt with swiftly during time of war and in the manner that is called for in the UCMJ for such conduct during time of war. We need to get Oath Keepers to every military member/veteran that is alive, along with Law Enforcement officers. Protect your Second Amendment rights by putting your guns away where no one but you knows where they are. Just ask the Jews of Europe what happened when Hitler took over or ask England, Canada, Australias citizens what happens when the criminals take your guns. learn from their sacrifice and prepare now. Domestic enemy of the Constitution are #1 obummer, #2 clinton #3 holder. Clintons signature on the UN Small arms treaty is High Treason and should be punished accordingly.
ishka4me
Posted on November 15, 2011 at 6:23pmlet’s just say, the military has a different justice system. Nuff said.
Report Post »RWIce
Posted on November 15, 2011 at 6:56pmCheck.. Ready to defend
Report Post »smokey888x2
Posted on November 15, 2011 at 7:29pmThey better have two plans, if they other side has one then our first one will not work.
Report Post »bernbart
Posted on November 15, 2011 at 7:32pmBigots also claimed Martin Luther King was a Marxist. It just a way to attempt to disguise you hatred and bigotry..
Report Post »motonutt
Posted on November 15, 2011 at 7:49pmPathetic misfits….they haven’t got a clue. I have never seen such a collection of ugly women. Most of these are the people who don’t fit in with normal society. And this is their rebellion. Dorks, nerds, geeks, anti-social,,,,,,the ones that got picked on continually in school because they were such idiots all the time….and now this is their revenge. What they don‘t relize is that they are going to get their ass’s kicked again soon.
Report Post »claymoremacm
Posted on November 15, 2011 at 8:17pmOath Keepers…Join today
Report Post »michael48
Posted on November 15, 2011 at 8:41pm66′-68′…..at 18, crap full of fear…at 64 , CAN’T WAIT !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! 11B10….can and WILL DO…
Report Post »paperpushermj
Posted on November 15, 2011 at 8:55pmI’m In !!!
Report Post »Idaho Patriots X 2
Posted on November 15, 2011 at 8:58pmVietnam combat vet, here. Back country Alaska born and raised. There are more of U.S. than them…….
Report Post »We have a SOLID belief we will fight and die for. They just have an ideology and false hope…..WE have GOD, they have George Soros.
paperpushermj
Posted on November 15, 2011 at 9:01pm@MILS
Report Post »Watch what you say in Public.
Of course you where talking of taking Obama out, after the elections in 2012. That was clear to me
Wixom35
Posted on November 15, 2011 at 9:27pmAmen to that. I think the Marxist – Socialist folks behind all this crap have over played their hand!
This country is center – right and these folks have truly underestiamated what the backlash could and will be! May God heave mercy on their souls (which I doubt) as the fight will be ugly and end in a way that will turn this country 180 degress to what is now!
Report Post »CJ-CA
Posted on November 15, 2011 at 9:56pmYou are not alone. Active duty are fed up with OWS and Obama equally. No worry re: military being recruited to revolt. The few we’ve know to join in seems to have had “troubles”. I‘ve two active duty officer nephews who say the vast majority of the military wouldn’t follow Dumbo, or fire on our people.
I still content it’s a lock and load situation out there. I’m ready, are the rest of you?
Report Post »no1jyd
Posted on November 15, 2011 at 10:25pmAs a 22 year vet of the USAF I am with you. Here is something you all may want to check out and pass on. http://oathkeepers.org/oath/ Take care and good luck to all.
Report Post »Currahee
Posted on November 15, 2011 at 10:28pmDDB,
Report Post »I also am an Army Vet and I’m following the same line of thought. Although even if the rise up against the domestic enemies of our country doesn’t start with the Military, 99% of the Military would be on our side, there is a small number that would ignore their oath to uphold and protect the Constitution. Also they can very easily be reminded that they only have to obey lawful orders and anything out of Obumblers administration is unlawful do to his failure to meet the Constitutional requirement of being a “Natural Born Citizen” because his daddy(as admitted by his released birth cert.) was a Kenyan citizen and royal subject of the British gov’t at the time of his birth, meaning he is not a “Natural Born Citizen.” Therefore every order he gives is unlawful and no one in the military who ignores him would be guilty of anything. My weapons are zeroed and I’m ready to protect this great Nation, even the idiots who don’t deserve it.
robinakilt
Posted on November 15, 2011 at 11:36pmA free people ought not only to be armed and disciplined, but they should have sufficient arms and ammunition to maintain a status of independence from any who might attempt to abuse them, which would include their own government. — George Washington
Report Post »ejbonk
Posted on November 16, 2011 at 12:42amAMEN! I stand with you and all men of honor. Mr. Obama has no honor.
Report Post »MeekStudentUSMC
Posted on November 16, 2011 at 2:21amnot alone at all…
Report Post »riderx1
Posted on November 16, 2011 at 7:32amhttp://www.oathkeepers.org
Report Post »1654American
Posted on November 16, 2011 at 8:35amYou’re definitely not alone. 20+ year veteran. Trained to kill communists, tyrants, and other miscreants who’s intent is to destroy my Constitution. Been there, done that. Standing ready to continue mission.
Report Post »Docmoe36
Posted on November 16, 2011 at 10:31amI agree that President Obama needs to go but a military coup that seems a little excessive. We take an oath to support and defend the constitution against all enemies foreign and domestic. In our system there is a way to remove the President every four years. Now if he is voted out of office and refuses to leave that would change things but for now it is a slippery slope.
Report Post »Jim in Houston
Posted on November 16, 2011 at 1:02pmSpot on!
Report Post »DebbieOhio912
Posted on November 16, 2011 at 2:56pmYou might be interested in a group called “The Oathkeepers.” Check it out.
Report Post »Jinglebob
Posted on November 16, 2011 at 6:05pmCheck out the Oat keepers Organization. Trust in the fact that the active, retired and vetrans and people of good faith, and patroits one and all will not let the evil forces of Obama take over this country.
Report Post »OPFOR
Posted on November 16, 2011 at 8:12pm”THESE are the times that try men’s souls. The summer soldier and the sunshine patriot will, in this crisis, shrink from the service of their country; but he that stands by it now, deserves the love and thanks of man and woman. Tyranny, like hell, is not easily conquered; yet we have this consolation with us, that the harder the conflict, the more glorious the triumph. What we obtain too cheap, we esteem too lightly: it is dearness only that gives every thing its value. Heaven knows how to put a proper price upon its goods; and it would be strange indeed if so celestial an article as FREEDOM should not be highly rated.” Thomas Paine Dec, 23rd 1776 ( The Crasis)
Report Post »taliesin319
Posted on November 16, 2011 at 9:35pmMy oath will be active until the day I die. we are Americans not communists.
Report Post »taliesin319
Posted on November 16, 2011 at 9:58pmI’m 71 years old and served in Vietnam, 67-70.My oath was and is,old as I am still in effect and will remain so until the day of my death. Nothing in this world is as dear to me as the Constitution and the Bill of RightsGod gave me those rights and no Usurper will take them away. God will preserve this Republic with the blood, sweat and tears of her citizens.Obama will return to the hitter he rose from, a bitter,failed, little man just like Carter
Report Post »Anamah
Posted on November 16, 2011 at 10:45pmDDBAR, but the level of ignorance and the distortion of statistical data is overwhelming. Those morons seem to enjoy playing as philosophers on the public place talking to talk… without regards respect reality, history or simply the social true facts.
Report Post »coolwalker
Posted on November 17, 2011 at 2:28pmI stand with you…former Cpl., 649th L&B Rangers
Report Post »lightning3alpha
Posted on November 17, 2011 at 8:06pmHooah! Thank God for an armed citizenry…
Report Post »freedomdontcomefree
Posted on November 18, 2011 at 1:40pmBeing a former United States marine it is my duty to protect defend to watever extent to protect this great republic and it is the duty of all service members either active or pruor service to do so i want my kids to hABC e the same freedoms as which we had long ago
Report Post »Twinspeedr
Posted on November 15, 2011 at 11:20amIf your not a Liberal by the time you’re 20 years old, you have no heart.
If you’re not a Conservative by the time your 40 years old, you have no brain.
Report Post »OhioRifleman
Posted on November 15, 2011 at 11:53amI guess that makes me a heartless genius, for I am 27, never been liberal, and always conservative.
Report Post »loriann12
Posted on November 15, 2011 at 12:12pmI guess I started out life with a heart, but got smart. I became conservative in the Navy. However, I have to state that my parents were Democrats, but under the OLD term for it. If you sit and talk with them, the only issue not conservative is the woman’s choice for abortion. My mom said she’d never have one, but wouldn’t stop another woman from getting one, because they’ll go to a back alley and get a coat hanger one. I think they just fell for the Democratic line…..now they’re independents.
Report Post »oopss
Posted on November 15, 2011 at 12:34pmTo OhioRifleman:
What does that mean, when you have a gun as your Picture ??? Are you going to kill me if I don’t do what you say ? Jest asking, sence you have a big mouth to go along with the big gun !! It will not go down as you and your Communist Party, Treasonous and traitors think, Bring it on and see !!! Been their and done that , with people like you my whole life !!! FREEDOM & LIBERTY For ALL, who are willing to Die for it !!
Report Post »Lloyd Drako
Posted on November 15, 2011 at 12:46pm“Be conservative in your personal behavior, be liberal in what you are prepared to tolerate in others.” Forget who said it, but words to live by.
Report Post »OhioRifleman
Posted on November 15, 2011 at 1:23pm@ Oopss
What the hell are you talking about? Your rambling post has nothing to do with the thread, includes a baseless attack on me, and most seriously calls me a Communist! What manner of sj1t is this?
Better yet, let’s do this by the numbers:
1. When have I threatened anyone? Especially you, since you have a whopping eight comments on the site and I’ve never happened across one of your posts.
2. Where the hell do you get me being a communist? If anything, my words here are about as anti-communist and anti-anarchist as it is possible without p1ssing off the censors.
3. Since when have I railed against freedom?
@ Drako
Interesting line, and an apt restraint to live under, but the sufferance of fools and degenerates wears thin with repeated depredations. Tolerance becomes a weakness, not a virtue, when the enemy routinely exploits it.
Report Post »Robert in Texas
Posted on November 15, 2011 at 2:11pmI must be a heartless genius myself… been a Conservative ALL OF MY LIFE. I am proud of my country – although highly embarrased by the actions of so few our fellow countrymen who want to turn our country into a mirror image of Zucotti Park – where it takes 3 1/2 hours to decide if someone can take a dump.
I will stand with my countrymen and defend our Constitution, as I made my oath in 1987, from all enemies, foriegn and domestic… I would hate to have to harm a fellow American, but if it came down to a true revolution, i will do my part to ensure our freedom continues.
Report Post »carbonyes
Posted on November 15, 2011 at 2:14pmGreat to hear that many are not afraid to do what needs to be done to eradicate the eradicators if it it ever comes to that point. Don’t believe Obama and his crew have a full grip on what and who they are messing with. One thing for damn sure, it sure as Hell is not the Arab spring. Don’t fire till you see the whites of their eyes.
Report Post »NOBAMA201258
Posted on November 15, 2011 at 3:49pmWrong! the brain part applies in both cases but the indoctrination a student receives in our education system precludes any chance of real thought! socialism is the religion of these sheep!
Report Post »Livc91
Posted on November 15, 2011 at 4:24pmI am heartless. 21-Conservative.
Report Post »YoungBloodNews
Posted on November 15, 2011 at 5:56pmAnd if your a Libertarian you know the secrets of this world and who‘s pull it’s strings ;)
Report Post »CJ-CA
Posted on November 15, 2011 at 11:14pmAs with Ohiorifleman, I too was never a liberal. It must be the OH thing.
Report Post »ozchambers
Posted on November 16, 2011 at 12:02pm@OHIORIFLEMAN: “oops” apparently made an oops. I think he misunderstood your post, mistaking you for a Socialist.
Report Post »japplebee
Posted on November 15, 2011 at 11:17amAdam Kokesh does good work confronting these people most of the time just himself and his camera. Takes a bit of guts to go into the lions den with these kind of people.
Report Post »Fella
Posted on November 15, 2011 at 11:59amMost of the people posting on this thread would vilify Adam just as much as the people he’s interviewing if they knew he stood for that “kooky” idea of liberty. Some have started posting the anti-Adam drivel already. Check back on this story later to read more of the vitriol thats sure to be posted.
Report Post »Rothbardian_in_the_Cleve
Posted on November 15, 2011 at 12:06pmAs soon as they figure out he’s a libertarian the Neo-Con’s will show up to soil him and anyone who agrees with them and then discard him/them to the “kook” pile.
Report Post »YepImaConservative
Posted on November 15, 2011 at 6:10pm>ROTH. You’re right. Pffffft… Kokesh…POS. People need to check this character out. And like I’ve said before on The Blaze… Russia is pulling for Ron Paul (now ask yourself why?). This tool is Russia’s tool supporting an American fool… Ron Paul.
Report Post »Fella
Posted on November 15, 2011 at 7:39pmYEP is posting drunk again I see. Got to be one of the biggest morons on the blaze, bar none.
Report Post »YepImaConservative
Posted on November 15, 2011 at 7:52pmThat’s right FELLA, disagree with Ron Paul or one of his Paulestinians and you’re either drunk or a moron…. or worse. RedState.com did a little culling of the herd regarding Paulestinians…
It gives me great pleasure to remind you of the Paul supporter who was showcased on here… pulled over by the Police, drunk and carrying on with an intoxicated Constitutional rant to the amusement of the officers (and everyone who saw the video I’m sure).
At the end as he’s put into the Paddy Wagon… in a whiney, rather girly voice… Ron Paul 2012.
You are him right? Me and my well rounded Conservative friends have a bet going. I say you’re he. I’ve got $100.00 riding on you buddy…. MAKE ME A WINNER! Lmao> you
Report Post »Fella
Posted on November 15, 2011 at 7:56pm1 supporter = all. Only in your tiny little brain, YEP.
Report Post »ashestoashes
Posted on November 16, 2011 at 12:34am@Yep I’m a conservative..I realize sir that you are probably a Cainanante..but I went to the Red state and viewed what he had to say which wasn’t much except his own opinion of Ron Paul..which didn’t hold weight..A fence on the borders is insane..The only way to get rid of illegals is to pull funding..$338.3 million should do the trick.. As for wars..why do we need to be in wars? As for bashing Kokesh…did you actually watch the video and notice that he’s a Capitalist? The OWS protestors don’t want jobs…they want a free ride and want what you own to pay for it..Oh and Sir..I noticed you cheering on the murder of Khadafi..paid for by Obama in support of the Muslim Brotherhood via Arab Spring taking out our strongholds to replace with Sharia Law.. you seem to be really informed
Report Post »last frontier
Posted on November 15, 2011 at 11:16amThis is where the people who dont want to work [Government Employees] can rub elbows with people that just wont work. I see why they think it’s so important to get some of the military on there side.
Report Post »Jomil48
Posted on November 15, 2011 at 12:20pmto last, you don’t think our military work??? sign up once, go on a tour, then come back and tell me tell military don’t work. our young men and women who put their life on the line every single day , never knowing if they will live today or not, to defend this nation and our constitution. to keep your a– safe, and you have the gall to say they don’t work. how dare you.
Report Post »dmerwin
Posted on November 15, 2011 at 11:12amThe military is held to a much higher standard and actually gives up some routine rights, for example, if an order is not criminal you must follow it. You cannot say, I really don’t like that, I’m not doing it. The military oath also includes “protect and defend the constitution” which makes plotting against the government illegal and treasonous. Capitol punishment is still on the books for treason for military personnel. I hope that military CID is looking into this story, if it is true this bozo just harmed a lot of people. Just saying…
Report Post »SecularConservative
Posted on November 15, 2011 at 11:25amMaybe the soldiers he claims to have joined his movement ARE CID haha now CID is just waiting for soldiers to come over so they can be busted.
Report Post »drattastic
Posted on November 15, 2011 at 11:36amPretty simple, if they try some of this stupidity in the military they are going to the brig ,end of story. When you raise your right hand and swear an oath and sign the dotted line you are (un)officially property of the US government. You will follow any lawful order and not following orders will be dealt with swiftly ,was my experience back in the day. I can’t see that things have changed that much in that respect over the years.
Report Post »Rothbardian_in_the_Cleve
Posted on November 15, 2011 at 12:09pmPlotting against the government is treason/sedition…agreed. However, if they are being given orders that are unconstitutional (Martial Law) then they have a duty to not obey them.
Now, there will be others who will obey them. They can arrest those that won’t to be court martialed. How do you think those will fare? Point being, that simply laying down arms and refusing to obey isn’t enough. You have a duty to DEFEND the constitution not just refuse to nullify it. That isn’t treason or sedition. It is duty.
Report Post »paleoman
Posted on November 15, 2011 at 11:11amThis country will split again but the American people will win,won’t be good for the progressive left. Better watch out 2012 be prepared.
Report Post »GUNNSUP
Posted on November 15, 2011 at 1:50pmIf the Progressive Left/Obamma camp thinks they can overthrow our Constitution, they’d best think again…..It’ll be a turkey shoot!
Report Post »Armed
Posted on November 15, 2011 at 11:11am@NOHUSSEIN
Exactly, then buy more ammo!
Report Post »Jomil48
Posted on November 15, 2011 at 12:31pmas the navy chaiplin said, praise the Lord and pass the ammo
Report Post »vandyman84
Posted on November 15, 2011 at 11:10amOne of my soldiers supports OWS, but he’s also a complete idiot and marries strippers. I had a little chat with him about OWS, and he only proved my point in the end that true liberty and capitalism are the only way to live. He had firmly believed that people will make a good product for the heck of it, and not care about proper compensation. Sorry, if I make a Bentley, pay me for a Bentley, not a Kia.
Report Post »ENTP
Posted on November 15, 2011 at 11:10amhe said he’s from the Progressive Labor Party, if you want to read more about what they are about you can check out PLP.org they are much more about anti-capitalism, for instance they would also like to do away with any religions, their page states that they are communists. Their wiki page is informative as well, scary, but informative.
Report Post »nohussein
Posted on November 15, 2011 at 11:04amGod bless the 2nd amendment.
Report Post »gobnait
Posted on November 15, 2011 at 11:03amThis report coming on top of reports that street gangs have invaded the military certainly give one pause for our children’s future. This OWS movement isn’t going away; it’s becoming patently obvious that it is a well-organized, well-funded operation led by the worst of the worst radical far-leftists. Be afraid, be very afraid. Small wonder Obama and the rest of the Democratic leaders threw their support behind it.
Report Post »AJAYW
Posted on November 15, 2011 at 11:37amGOBNAIT
Report Post »I agree with you. This is far more organized than it appears and I think that is by design. Lead by G Soros- Obama has put people like Holder in key positions through out the goverment to pull off something this country has never seen before. The Democratic party is being used by these people to make it happen and their dumb enough to go along. Its going to get mighty UGLY before its over.
AmericanStrega
Posted on November 15, 2011 at 10:57amWhen do first amendment rights become treason? These protestors and their handlers are advocating the destruction of the United States Constitution and of the United States of America! Is this not treason? Isn’t it against the law to try and overthrow the government?
Report Post »Ruler4You
Posted on November 15, 2011 at 11:04amLOL! They had better watch out, I‘ve ’rebelled’ against the military myself. It’s very easy to get burned playing with that kind of fire. I have no sympathy for them, they get what they get. After all, they don’t care about anyone else and that is part of their message.
Report Post »nohussein
Posted on November 15, 2011 at 11:05amBuy ammo.
Report Post »Banshee34
Posted on November 15, 2011 at 11:08amI have always wondered that same thing myself!
Report Post »COFemale
Posted on November 15, 2011 at 11:13amIt is and as long as Obama is in office nothing will be done. Too bad American citizens can’t bring treason charges against these cretins who are trying to destroy the United States.
You will have to pry the gun from my cold dead body before I live under Communism. I grew up during the cold war and I saw how communism worked and it ain’t pretty. People starved, they had no voice, and were thrust into poverty. These kids are clueless when it comes to what they are doing. Frankly, I think the only way to cure them is to create those conditions in a controlled experiment and thrust them into what life is like. Make them live communism 1st hand, no holds barred, up to, but not actually killing them like the German’s or Russians did. Then these useful idiots would be singing a different tune.
Report Post »MidWestMom
Posted on November 15, 2011 at 11:23amRegarding private citizens, it would depend on how the Judicial Branch interprets their actions.
Article 3 – The Judicial Branch
Section 3 – Treason
Treason against the United States shall consist only in levying War against them, or in adhering to their Enemies, giving them Aid and Comfort. No Person shall be convicted of Treason unless on the Testimony of two Witnesses to the same overt Act, or on Confession in open Court.
The Congress shall have power to declare the Punishment of Treason, but no Attainder of Treason shall work Corruption of Blood, or Forfeiture except during the Life of the Person attainted.
Note:
The authors were concerned about the definition of treason. They thought that it was used too broadly to define any dissenting opinions. Their new country would be much stricter about what treason was, and how one would be accused and convicted of it.
Treason, then, is defined only as going to war against the USA, or aiding the enemies of the USA. To be convicted, the accused must confess to treason, or be accused by two direct witnesses of the treason.
The authors were also concerned that the person convicted of treason be the only one to suffer for the treasonous acts. The Constitution explicitly states that there may be no “corruption of blood,” or that the children and relatives of the traitor not be considered traitorous simply by relation; the “no forfeiture” clause basically means that once the traitor dies, “payment” for the
Report Post »Twinspeedr
Posted on November 15, 2011 at 11:24amAs long as most of America only sees this mess as a recession, perhaps the worst they’ve seen, these morons will be allowed to walk around spouting this nonsense. Let them spout, their ideas cannot stand the light of day. They will discredit themselves they always do.
Report Post »GODBLESSOURCOUNTRY
Posted on November 15, 2011 at 12:09pmYes…it is against the law, if they put it into action (aka Bill Ayres – Pentaon). For some reason, the word treason is lost on some people. In the past, you’d be hung for it…funny, I’ll bet there was less treasonous talk and action back then too.
Report Post »rosegrower
Posted on November 15, 2011 at 1:12pmYour question is interesting. I suspect that in the eyes of the law, “advocacy” and “discussion” of overthrowing the government don’t amount to treason, but actually organizing and doing something about it would. In other words, these burnouts would have to attack a government building or go after an FBI agent or something of that ilk in order to be arrested, Then, any declarations they have made to the effect of supporting or endorsing a government overthrow would lead to charges of treason (perhaps, but consider this is the Obama-Holder Justice Department.) The bottom line is that talk is cheap – and free – even when it’s perpetrated by a bunch of ill-bred fools.
Report Post »siguy62
Posted on November 15, 2011 at 10:57amAnyone else notice how manyof these anticapitalists have computers, manufactured clothing, books, glasses and other products of capitalism?
Report Post »AvengerK
Posted on November 15, 2011 at 11:09amThe fact that they really have no basis to complain is apparent. It’s difficult to feel sorry for a college student whining about economic hardship while holding a $5K laptop, an iPod or an iPad. It’s just as difficult to expect these same idiots to find good paying jobs with a masters in philosophy and “A’s“ in ”the dialectics of hegemony”. Demanding their tuition paid for by someone else at that point is laughable. However…by wanting to infiltrate the military they‘re hoping to duplicate some of the conditions they’ve seen in the middle east with military defecting to the side of rebels. Yes the U.S. is a whole different set of dynamics and likely that wouldnt’ happen on a scale the lefties are hoping for…but that’s their game plan nonetheless. They’re not a very bright crowd regardless of a college education. They’re emotionally driven, easily angered and manipulated….this is why Lenin called them useful idiots.
Report Post »NewLife56
Posted on November 15, 2011 at 10:56amHmmm…lets see now, MSDNC is promoting repeling the 2nd amendment, wanting to take our guns away, hmmm..our founding fathers wrote the 2nd amendment for that reason…hmmmm
Report Post »AmericanStrega
Posted on November 15, 2011 at 11:11amMSLSD can call for the end to the second amendment all they want. The government can go ahead and end the second amendment. BUT, if and when they do and they come to my home to disarm me, they will find that I will resist with everything I have in my arsenal. In the end, I’ll be dead, but I’ll take out a bunch of THEM before they kill me. Sound like Bravado on my part? Come up on the porch and see. HMMMMM?
Report Post »HorseCrazy
Posted on November 15, 2011 at 10:54ampraising people who refused orders in vietnam….as the daughter of a army vet I am continually offended that people celebrate these fools. they disgust me. where the hell do these haters of capitalism think those clothes they are wearing came from or the computers or books or cell phones? their stupidity is beyond comprehension.
Report Post »CALL ME SNAKE
Posted on November 15, 2011 at 10:52amCall a doctor! These people are hemoragging intelligence! What strikes me is the lack of coherency, they just like to hear themselves talk and pretend to be psuedo-intellectuals.
Report Post »Hiswill
Posted on November 15, 2011 at 11:02amThese camps are filled with the mentally ill and they will go along with anything and anybody. The OW crowd are all zombies.
Report Post »What can we do to make some positive changes here? It’s getting pretty frightening to watch all this unfold day after day.I have such a feeling of helplessness on what to do to counter these crazy people and I don’t even live near any of it.
Kitsune
Posted on November 15, 2011 at 10:50amSo, is anybody going to point out AT ALL that the radical progressives are basically saying, AND PAY ATTENTION HERE :
‘The Most Important Thing Is That The Guns Are In OUR Hands”
????
Anybody picking up on this?
ANYONE?
Report Post »think1st
Posted on November 15, 2011 at 11:25amCan you post some links of this? I like to see just who is saying these things… Thanks!
Report Post »GhostintheNW
Posted on November 16, 2011 at 3:57amAgreed. People say that these “people” in the military is a non-issue. I say never, never, never underestimate your ENEMY. All it would take would be a couple guys “guarding” a warehouse full of high tech military weapons. Think about the damage that would come about with at weapons or SAWs. Precision sniper rifles or explosives.
Report Post »elosogrande
Posted on November 15, 2011 at 10:49amCheck out the photo. If you owned a business, would you hire any one of these dopes?
Our educational system has created several generations of losers. These people are not smart enough to know that everyone can’t work for the government and be supported for the rest of their lives by the taxpayers who work at productive jobs. The problem is that these people were not educated to be productive. They only know how to find the trough. We may be doomed, because the attitudes of these people cannot be reversed.,
Report Post »siguy62
Posted on November 15, 2011 at 11:04amOur VERY BAD education system has done nothing more than accelerate the gap between the haves and the have nots. When you beleive that your are entitled, and don’t put ALL your effort in to your success, those who do will eat your lunch. Then there is a greater gulf between the independant and the dependant.
Report Post »jhrusky
Posted on November 15, 2011 at 11:09amAn even larger problem is we are allowing the radical teachers to continue to teach our children and grandchildren and THAT is where the problem originated with this younger generation. If we allow those people to continue teaching, we are doomed indeed. What we need to do is begin attending every function of every school board in our areas and start making demands. We need to begin running for these board positions to get some normalcy back into them. We also need to begin attending local town and village and city government meetings, demanding normalcy there, too, and even running for these positions to take our country back. If we continue to do nothing, then nothing will happen to change it.
Report Post »JLGunner
Posted on November 15, 2011 at 10:45amIt pains me to listen to the so called “educated” elite. I wish they would take a closer look at world history and see what forms of government work and ones that don’t.
Report Post »Snowleopard {gallery of cat folks}
Posted on November 15, 2011 at 10:52amUnderstand they have studied world history, yet the problem is with them, it is through a filter of their own delusional and dysfunctional ideology twisting it to what is proven to have failed (communist and the like) utterly into a “saving grace destroyed by capitalist evils run amok…”
So they see us, the Republic as their mortal enemy, as Mr Obama does in seeing the US as the greatest of evils needing to be changed and transformed; not seeing nor caring that in the process they are unleashing massive evil far greater than was there before.
Report Post »JLGunner
Posted on November 15, 2011 at 11:25amSnow, good point. I just see the similarities between the US and the Roman Empire.
Report Post »YepImaConservative
Posted on November 15, 2011 at 6:11pm>JL. Check out this guy Kokesh. Amazing… but not in a good way.
Report Post »isnrblog
Posted on November 15, 2011 at 10:45amThere would be a very small minority of members of the military supporting these idiots.
From the military and police I have talked to none would support thw OWS idiots nor would they talk guns from citizens if ordered.
Report Post »Snowleopard {gallery of cat folks}
Posted on November 15, 2011 at 10:53amI have to agree with you on the military, yet what I can see happening is a small and radical band of them stirring up trouble at the orders of Mr Obama and then he uses it as an excuse to crush the armed forces to his vision once and for all.
Report Post »RLTW
Posted on November 15, 2011 at 11:10amUnfortunately every human organization has its dregs, even the military. The thing to remember about the military is the fact its performance based success, so the true professionals are unlikely to knowingly fall for Marxist BS
Report Post »BernieKittyCat
Posted on November 15, 2011 at 11:32amYou mean like the higher-ups that ignored warning signs and promoted Nadal Hassan, the Fort Hood murderer? My faith in my country is failing.
Report Post »RLTW
Posted on November 15, 2011 at 11:48amNo, those higher ups you refer to are not professional Soldiers, or patriots they’re POLs who for the most part care about their next STAR. The men and woman I have trust in are the ones where the rubber meets the road, I’d also add 99.9% of the Special Operations community is constitutionally intact.
Report Post »TRUK62
Posted on November 15, 2011 at 12:38pmOne problem we have with our military is that the legal corps have been chipping away at and revising the UCMJ just as thoroughly as the liberal lawyers and progressives inside the supreme court / court of appeals have been usurping the Constitution.
The enlisted troops are 95% or more traditional, common sense Americans that would never turn on their own citizens. It just wont happen. I do worry about the senior officers above O-5 level because the have been politicized by a sick system that started with th Tail Hook scandal in the late 80s. the JOs from that time periiod were brutally ascended upon the PC police with a vengence. Many got out others stayed and became part of the problem that plagues the Military today.
Report Post »The JOs that stuck around and went through the sensitivity hogwash and other PC programs designed to make officers have a progressive bend are now the senior officers that make the rules the troops play by. Now, some damn fine officers made it through and kept their common sense, dignity and proper way of getting things done but the day is comming when the majority of officers are going to be mainly progressives from the pressure they get in college to the BS systems in place in the military today. Luckily the heart and soul of the military is made up of American traditionalists in the form of our boots on the ground troops that do have the key to make everything work out…. Common Sense.
BCPATIOT
Posted on November 16, 2011 at 11:42pm@ISNRBLOG,SNOW,our military would’nt support this ,but obummer does have his on army within.,and the brown shirts would back him. Have you watched those video that RangerP posted we watch? Truly disturbing.
Report Post »Eliasim
Posted on November 15, 2011 at 10:42amWhat, you mean there may be Communists in the military who may be attracted to the Occupiers? Well who would have thunk it?
Report Post »Eliasim
Posted on November 15, 2011 at 10:45amI guess that means recruiters weren’t doing such a wonderful job after-all.
Report Post »COFemale
Posted on November 15, 2011 at 11:04amNot to worry they probably are all gay; the military’s first Gay Brigade. Do these shoes go with these BDU’s? Does tucking in my shirt make my butt look big?
All kidding aside, I have felt for numerous years our military was becoming less than honorable. This is why so many veterans are seeking retirement to leave the service. When you bring immoral acts and people into a moral group, you degrade the services. Obama and Occupy Wall Street may be getting people to join the military, but don’t forget all those who served honorably, defend the constitution and have left the service are here to help protect the U.S. They may have some in the military on their side, but they don’t have all. If it gets to where it is them versus us, I don’t think the “against” war group have the stomach to raise arms. Some talk a good game, but when push comes to shove, many are weenies.
Report Post »Eliasim
Posted on November 15, 2011 at 11:17amI’m against war. But I’m not against protecting my children, and I’m not against protecting my house. God the Father isn’t against protecting his children and house either otherwise he would not have sent Moses, and God the Father also would have allowed the serpent to be cast out of Heaven.
Report Post »Eliasim
Posted on November 15, 2011 at 11:20amI mean: Would “Not” have allowed the serpent to be cast out of Heaven.
Report Post »slowprop26
Posted on February 25, 2012 at 4:33pmThunk it! HA Ha. Any of you lot capable of thunking it.
Report Post »lel2007
Posted on November 15, 2011 at 10:41am“People Organizing Inside of the Military” ??? THAT’S GREAT! The Uniform Code of Military Justice is much more “streamlined” than civil court.
Report Post »lukerw
Posted on November 15, 2011 at 10:44amSo do you follow… the Oath to the Commander In Chief… or the Oath to defend the Constitution?
Report Post »Sue Dohnim
Posted on November 15, 2011 at 10:47amAdam Kokesh works for Russia Today and has worked with Codepink..
He is no friend of LIBERTY
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adam_Kokesh
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Eliasim
Posted on November 15, 2011 at 10:47amWell look at it this way: the military generals are following the orders of the President right? And the President is a Marxist, because he surrounds himself with Marxists. Therefore if the generals are following orders, then they too are Marxists.
Report Post »Eliasim
Posted on November 15, 2011 at 11:02amSee it’s common sense, and that‘s something people just don’t have any more in large numbers. If I have pieces of metal scattered about, and I introduce a Metal magnet, then only the metal will be attracted to and do the bidding of the metal magnet, and all the pieces of metal will become somewhat magnetized themselves. Or how about this: if I have to glasses of fluid water; one red, one pink, and I dump them together, they will become red. If I have a glass of water, and I dump if into a glass of oil, then they won’t become one, and the oil will float on top.
Report Post »dejavu43
Posted on November 15, 2011 at 11:57amSimple. The Constitution comes first. If the President goes against it, he should be impeached. Oh, wait! He already has, on numerous occasions! It’s unfortunate that Congress has no one with sufficient cojones to start the process. Also– organizing in the military–worry more about the gang influences as they will be far more dangerous.
Report Post »hud
Posted on November 15, 2011 at 3:43pmUCMJ says oath takers who lie should die
Report Post »YepImaConservative
Posted on November 15, 2011 at 6:14pm>SUE. Glad someone else knows who this dumb@zz is. Posted something about him above, then saw your comment. Good eye!!!
Report Post »ashestoashes
Posted on November 15, 2011 at 9:01pm@ Sue and Yep I’m a Conservative..Here’s another video on why KoKesh is supporting Paul as are the Russians..THere is some commentaries expressing some of your concerns but the most awesome thing is Kokeshes video therein Please watch the video
Report Post »ashestoashes
Posted on November 15, 2011 at 9:22pmVideo here of Kokesh
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UBETHECHANGE
Posted on November 15, 2011 at 10:39amProgressive Labor Party a fancy way of saying Communist Party. Treasonous and traitors!!!
Report Post »ashestoashes
Posted on November 15, 2011 at 10:57amThis is a huge power grab to turn our country inside out..trying to get our own military to turn against us..and with this Obamacare making everyone who doesn‘t buy health insurance to fine them 1500 dollar and then if they don’t they will have liens placed against our property if we don’t pay..They pay these protestors..I say we start a counter effort…Can you say Revolution???????
Report Post »lukerw
Posted on November 15, 2011 at 10:37amI am a believer! The question maybe: To support the Constitution… or… to support the President!
Report Post »Stoic one
Posted on November 15, 2011 at 10:42amThe Constitution.
Report Post »GUNNSUP
Posted on November 15, 2011 at 1:55pmBuck Ofama…
Report Post »RightPolitically
Posted on November 15, 2011 at 10:35amJust another A hole leftist DOG!
Report Post »NOBAMA201258
Posted on November 15, 2011 at 3:35pmWE need to stand up and crush these mindless sheep before they recruit any other so-called “educated” sheeple ! We are the majority not these obama-loving,America-hating,God-denying,wastes of flesh!
Report Post »the hawk
Posted on November 15, 2011 at 6:20pmUh (people in the military BELONG To the us governmebt if they made a move as a group aginst the US Gov they would be definded as enemy combatants and executed ASAP) without trail ! !
Report Post »So her comment should of been we have members in the military who when once their out will join us!
slowprop26
Posted on February 25, 2012 at 4:27pmI love this website. Founded on ignorance, bigotry, and religous superstition. Do they have education in the USA- or is just very limited. HA HA HA
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