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Anti-Gay Attacks Force Romney Foreign Policy Expert to Resign

This post has been updated. See below.

It is not a good time to be both gay and conservative. In fact, several forces within the conservative movement are aggressively pushing to make being gay a disqualifier for being conservative.

And now they can chalk up another victory. Richard Grenell, who was hired a scant few months ago as the Romney campaign’s spokesperson on foreign policy, resigned from the campaign today after several anti-gay conservative commentators complained about his working for the campaign. From Matthew Franck at National Review:

It seems pretty plain that, whatever fine record he compiled in the Bush administration, Grenell is more passionate about same-sex marriage than anything else. So here’s a thought experiment. Suppose Barack Obama comes out — as Grenell wishes he would — in favor of same-sex marriage in his acceptance speech at the Democratic National Convention. How fast and how publicly will Richard Grenell decamp from Romney to Obama?

Franck and his fellows can rest easy. Jennifer Rubin of the Washington Post has obtained Grenell’s statement about his departure. It is reproduced below:

I have decided to resign from the Romney campaign as the Foreign Policy and National Security Spokesman. While I welcomed the challenge to confront President Obama’s foreign policy failures and weak leadership on the world stage, my ability to speak clearly and forcefully on the issues has been greatly diminished by the hyper-partisan discussion of personal issues that sometimes comes from a presidential campaign. I want to thank Governor Romney for his belief in me and my abilities and his clear message to me that being openly gay was a non-issue for him and his team.

Fortunately, this appears to be a personal decision on Grenell’s part, rather than a purge by the Romney campaign. In fact, Grenell reportedly resigned in spite of being all but begged by the Romney campaign not to.

UPDATE: Noah Kristula-Green at the Daily Beast is questioning how much of this resignation was motivated by fear of anti-gay animus, and how much was motivated by a clash of personalities between Grenell and the Romney campaign. Read his aggregation of the various Tweets and takes here.

 

Comments (188)

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  • JesseHelmsNC
    Posted on May 1, 2012 at 6:36pm

    I’ll try again. So few read on… Matthew 8:11. Go and sin no more.

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    • Just_Us
      Posted on May 1, 2012 at 6:43pm

      Are we going to hold EVERYONE in the party to biblical standards of righteousness? Or just some whose sin offends us personally?

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    • ENOUGHISENOUGH
      Posted on May 1, 2012 at 6:58pm

      Those without sin cast the first stone.

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    • Walkabout
      Posted on May 1, 2012 at 7:00pm

      Just_Us

      The more public adultery becomes & the longer it goes on the more opprobrium there is. But a passerby cannot walk by anther & know they an adulterer, but they will know if they are gay many times.

      You expect a person who sees someone form work or their neighbor getting lovey dovey with someone who is not that persons spouse that they would approve? You expect that person to point an alduterer out to their kids & say no big deal or I expect you to do the same in the future? Give me a break no one does that.

      You expect if that same person was on a jury in divorce court that if the fact of adultery came up it would redound to the adulterer’s benefit in the court preceedings?

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    • Walkabout
      Posted on May 1, 2012 at 7:09pm

      ENOUGHISENOUGH

      “Those without sin cast the first stone.”

      _______________________________________

      And Jesus told the woman “You go girl” because he approved of her lifestyle? Is that the point you are trying to make?

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    • CMDR6
      Posted on May 1, 2012 at 7:14pm

      Come on…REALLY? you guys need to read the article. He was not FORCED out, the Romney campaign asked him to stay….he quit! So much for the courage of conviction……

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    • republitarian
      Posted on May 1, 2012 at 7:24pm

      “And I say unto you, That many shall come from the east and west, and shall sit down with Abraham, and Isaac, and Jacob, in the kingdom of heaven.”

      Forgive my ignorance. I don’t understand what the passage has to do with this subject.

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    • P C BE DAMNED
      Posted on May 1, 2012 at 7:29pm

      Romney really messed up as he has hired a plant for the pervert movement and while Romney has no problem with perverts which really makes me have a real problem with Romney now this plant will turn on him when the time is right and cut him to pieces. Sarah will make the greatest President we have ever had with Allen West as her Vice President. We will vote for someone who represents out belief system or we will stay home. We will vote for someone who represents goodness and righteousness or we will stay at home. We will not sell out our GOD though the heavens fall. Now put that in your pipe and smoke it.

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    • Directoratasmallbusiness
      Posted on May 1, 2012 at 8:11pm

      Homosexual love is not a sin. It is sad that something that was deemed wrong a few hundred years ago (of that time and culture) and mistranslated is still something that is discriminated against in 2012. Other examples are selfish, slavery, and wearing two types of clothing, but these examples are done away with for the most part due to culture change of this time. My sister is a gay conservative Republican. Let me paraphrase something for you and explain to those of you who DO NOT KNOW WHAT you are talking about or are just prejudice.
      Acts 8: 37 -39 Philip explained to him that the person Isaiah was talking about was Jesus Christ, and this good news moved him to the core. They come up on some water. Now, remember, this is in the desert. There is no water in the desert. Luke, who wrote this, felt this was a “God-thing.” And the eunuch asked Philip “What is to prevent me from being baptized?” It’s an interesting way to phrase the question, but yes, there was something. The law. The fact that he was sexually unfit. But Philip was shaped more by the Spirit than by the law; more by the love of Jesus Christ than the legalism of Moses. And Philip baptized the eunuch and the eunuch went on his way rejoicing.
      The word homosexual was not even a word until 1869! There are many different definitions of a person who was a eunuch. The eunuch mentioned here was GAY!!!

       
    • Directoratasmallbusiness
      Posted on May 1, 2012 at 8:12pm

      Jesus taught the new covenant which supersedes the “Holiness Code” taught during the time of Moses. Recent study, 18 – 24 year olds were asked what 3 words or phrases came to mind when they heard the word Christian. The answers were: close-minded, hypocrite, and anti-gay. All of you stubbornly unreceptive people or people who are not ready for change need to HURRY UP AND LEARN if you want your children to be Christian. Otherwise, your children will grow up to not be Christians and their children, until the point the US is not considered a Christian nation or the most prominent religion.

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    • kryptonite
      Posted on May 1, 2012 at 8:23pm

      WTH is going on? The Blaze is omitting key info from its stories.

      This guy is not just gay. He is a gay activist. Would any conservative here want a “pro-adultery activist” on your staff? No? Well then why should we condone gay activism? God hates both. No, I err. God hates homosexuality (the sin) even more, because it perverts human nature — or subverts his Adam-Eve paradigm, whichever way you want to put it. I’m glad this guy left before he was fired.

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    • kryptonite
      Posted on May 1, 2012 at 8:50pm

      @Directoratasmallbusiness
      All of you stubbornly unreceptive people or people who are not ready for change need to HURRY UP AND LEARN if you want your children to be Christian.
      —-
      So in order to get my kids to become (not be) Christians, I need to teach them to follow the world. Great line of reasoning coming from a heathen. Don’t waste your time. You see, God tells us to do exactly the opposite of what you say (Proverbs 22: 6) and I’ll take his Word over yours any day.

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    • Walkabout
      Posted on May 1, 2012 at 8:54pm

      Directoratasmallbusiness

      Same sh_t from you on a different day.

      When I hear the word gay the 1st words that come to my mind are “Open relationships” & “disease”.

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    • charles116
      Posted on May 1, 2012 at 9:07pm

      I use the Bible to level one foot on my table.
      Is it supposed to be good for anything else?

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    • Just_Us
      Posted on May 1, 2012 at 9:33pm

      I will ask it again…Are we going to hold EVERYONE in the party to biblical standards of righteousness? Or just some whose sin offends us personally?

      This is a political party, NOT CHURCH. If we want to hold to the tenets of Christianity then do we get rid of the Jews in the party too?

      Who gets to determine the purity of the party? We get rid of the Jews, get rid of the gays, get rid of all non-Christians? Then what…..have communion and feel good about ourselves?

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    • kryptonite
      Posted on May 1, 2012 at 9:38pm

      @charles116
      I use the Bible to level one foot on my table.
      ——
      You have a table in your prison cell? Where are you, dude, Gitmo?

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    • survivorseed
      Posted on May 1, 2012 at 9:46pm

      Charles…the pages make good cigarette papers in a pinch

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    • Walkabout
      Posted on May 1, 2012 at 9:53pm

      survivorseed, charles316, …

      all the leftists trolls are coming out. It must be an election year.

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    • survivorseed
      Posted on May 1, 2012 at 10:22pm

      WALKABOUT
      Posted on May 1, 2012 at 8:54pm
      Directoratasmallbusiness

      Same sh_t from you on a different day.

      When I hear the word gay the 1st words that come to my mind are “Open relationships” & “disease”.

      Thats funny, there the same words that come to mind when i hear someone say Newt Gingrich

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    • Marci
      Posted on May 1, 2012 at 10:28pm

      Just_Us…..did you actually read the entire article?? It appears you did NOT. He left on his own, and it isn’t really clear why. Someone doesn’t leave over a couple of blog posts. Take your “biblical” rant and shove it. Some of us aren’t religious, but have extremely LOW tolerance of those who use the bible as a pretext to beat down conservatives with.

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    • Mutiny
      Posted on May 1, 2012 at 10:45pm

      @director

      Well you wrong. A eunuch has been castrated, that means no sexual urges. This is why rapist get chemically castrated. God destroyed two cities because of their wickedness. I would stay away from the gay stuff just for that reason.

      As far as the Romney connection, well its a flip flop so nothing new here.

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    • Ohello
      Posted on May 1, 2012 at 11:58pm

      People need to take responsibility for their own acts and behaviors. One man choosing to put his privates into another man’s anus are behavioral choices. America was founded on Freedom mainly religious freedom of a Puritan persuasion. That Freedom comes responsibility. FCC prohibits profanity on the public airwaves, and users of this public resource are obligated to self regulate and not behave in a profane manner. Likewise, the GLBT activists have no right to force their profane behavior on the rest of society, and one can argue the Government has the role to regulate this behavior and its promotion by preventing the use of taxes and public resources and thereby limit the impact of this perverse behavior on the rest of society.

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    • Anamah
      Posted on May 2, 2012 at 1:42am

      A very wrong move. I find this very shameful, that man has the right to manage his sexuality in privacy.

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    • The Mouse
      Posted on May 2, 2012 at 7:42am

      Kryptonite: So you have no problem believing in Leviticus prohibitions against homosexuality or using that against gays yet you wear fabrics made of combined yarns, you eat shellfish? or the NT prohibition against divorce, yet hetero‘s STILL divorce these days merely because don’t get along. WTF.

      Until the conservatives embrace people of ALL FAITHS and ALL SEXUAL ORIENTATIONS EVEN IF THEY DISAGREE WITH THEM, The Republican Party will wither away. This newer generation is becoming more and more openminded to gays and other minorities, yet the Repugs keep those who believe in fiscal conservatism out. As a gay person who doesn’t believe in a Welfare State and believes in small govt, shouldn’t that be enough? You people believe in govt out of our lives, yet you want them up women’s uteruses and in their bedrooms. Sheesh. What a bunch of phonies. I will keep voting Democrat, as the lesser of two evils. Until we get moderate Republicans in the party, I will keep voting Democrat and so will most independents. You will lose in 2012 with that non-Christian and anti-gay bigotry.

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    • lwoot
      Posted on May 2, 2012 at 9:05am

      I am finding the whole “conservatives pushed him out” mantra a bit hard to translate from what I have seen on the sideline. If you google this guy all the stories that headline are from Huffpo and the like freaking out about his controversial tweets in the past. It’s like two full pages of the left leaning media harping all over this guy. This is the first article I have seen about National Review having something to say on it. So I am not really sure I about this narrative that is now being introduced that “conservatives pushed him out”.

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    • Zer0
      Posted on May 2, 2012 at 2:01pm

      Sad really, that being a homosexual can bar one from a profession or career. Remember that rule can cut both ways depending on who’s in power. I’m indifferent if someone is gay or lesbian, just as long as they stand for capitalism and the Constitution, and oppose Socialism in all its forms.

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    • kryptonite
      Posted on May 3, 2012 at 7:20pm

      @The Mouse
      Until the conservatives embrace people of ALL FAITHS and ALL SEXUAL ORIENTATIONS EVEN IF THEY DISAGREE WITH THEM
      ———
      Depends on what you mean by “embrace.” I tolerate people of all faiths (not Islamo-fascists, who use faith as a means to an end) and sexual orientations, provided they are not intent on subverting the Judeo-Christian values upon which America was founded.

      If Garnell kept his sexuality to himself, his sexual orientation would not be a problem, but clearly he hasn’t and he won’t. If you want govt. to promote every anti-Christian ideology out there, then be a liberal. That’s your choice. But don’t try to ram it down our conservative throats. When’s the last time the MSM asked a LIBERAL presidential candidate if he/she would nominate someone who was pro-life to the Supreme Court, huh? Ah, but Repubs are pestered non-stop with questions regarding abortion and every other social issue libs and their state-controlled media favor. Speaking of hypocrites…

      FYI, I am a Christian, not a Jew, so I am under the New Covenant, where typologies are no longer relevant, but sin remains sin. Read the New Testament — prayerfully. Then we can talk.

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  • Walkabout
    Posted on May 1, 2012 at 6:28pm

    Matthew Franck who? He works for “National Review”? What magazine is that?

    After the “National Review” fired the writer who gave the truth on being careful around blacks, why read the National Review?

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    • lukerw
      Posted on May 1, 2012 at 7:55pm

      MITT: If you did not want to stir up the Ashes… you are an IDIOT!

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  • toto
    Posted on May 1, 2012 at 6:24pm

    I have a special respect for conservative gays. They get slammed from all sides. I would expect that part of the vetting process for hiring him would be to ask questions about the possible “what if’s” of the campaign.

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    • YAHSHUARULES
      Posted on May 1, 2012 at 6:53pm

      No such thing as a gay conservative. You have been indoctrinated into the homosexual agenda. This is a COMMUNIST PLANK for the corrupting of American values and morals:
      24. Eliminate all laws governing obscenity by calling them “censorship” and a violation of free speech and free press.
      25. Break down cultural standards of morality by promoting pornography and obscenity in books, magazines, motion pictures, radio, and TV.
      26. Present homosexuality, degeneracy and promiscuity as “normal, natural, healthy.”

      The homosexual agenda is a POLITICAL ONE – no science backs up the notion of “born gay” its a hoax. Here is an interesting paper using their very words. Most enlightening.
      What they say among themselves and what they try to push down the throats of those who have morals and biblical values are worlds apart, the lies and hypocrisy are stunning. This movement is based on intimidation. Starting with the fascist tactics used to intimidate the American Psych Association into reclassifying sodomites. The glee and gloating among themselves that it had nothing to do with science but politics and their political muscle they flexed. This movement started in Weimar Republic and here in the US with a member of satanic occult organization O.T.O. This all about making immorality and perversion accepted and destroying the bedrock of civilization the Judeo/Christian values. This is a spiritual war…
      http://www.massresistance.org/docs/gen/08a/born_gay_hoax/TheBornGay.p

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    • Directoratasmallbusiness
      Posted on May 1, 2012 at 8:25pm

      YAHSHUARULES
      Wow! That is the dumbest comment I have ever read. I guess you have not heard of the “gay gene?” Also, people are BORN gay and some CHOOSE to be gay. There is no gay agenda by people who are gay or bi. The gay and bi just DO NOT want to be discriminated against!!!!!

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    • Bruce P.
      Posted on May 1, 2012 at 8:34pm

      YESHUARULES — who are you to say who is a true conservative or not? Your irrational fear of gays is not the deciding factor of who is and isn’t a conservative. All it does it push people away.

      And your “goals of Communism” are nothing but the ramblings of a paranoid, delusional man. He invented them whole-cloth, to justify his own irrational fears. Nowhere can you find communists endorsing the list as genuine.

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    • Walkabout
      Posted on May 1, 2012 at 8:58pm

      Bruce P. singing from the same sheet of music as “Director of a small Business”

      Bruce P. we know why toy are an atheist. You are gay.

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    • Walkabout
      Posted on May 1, 2012 at 9:02pm

      Directoratasmallbusiness

      Wow! That is the dumbest comment I have ever read. I guess you have not heard of the “gay gene
      _________________
      Name the gay gene. Yuo can’t

      You can be sure that in many countries around the world if there were a gay gene there would be many more abortions. People would selectively abort for gender identification as they would for sex.

      You have know shame what so ever. I have been on other forums & when I ask about the gay gene, they never mention one. After a while they reply back it doesn’t matter.

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    • kryptonite
      Posted on May 1, 2012 at 9:08pm

      @Directoratasmallbusiness
      I guess you have not heard of the “gay gene?”
      —-
      I guess not, dodo; not from any reputable scientific source. Don’t cite fake research, please.

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    • charles116
      Posted on May 1, 2012 at 9:08pm

      OMG Yash is on hash.

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    • Brittany-Imbriaarts
      Posted on May 1, 2012 at 9:31pm

      Yash you are the face of why people turn from Conservatives and paint them as nothing but hate filled people. Because you don‘t understand or agree with someone else’s lifestyle does not mean they are out to take over yours. And if you are of the mind set that being conservative means following yours and only your views for this country then please succeed yourself and form your own country. The conservative actions I follow are to work hard and build a better future by doing good for my fellow man no matter who they are without government dictating who I am and what I have to do in my personal life. Please educate yourself on the world, respect all that are willing to work with you or stand alone in ruins you brought forth.

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    • Bruce P.
      Posted on May 1, 2012 at 9:51pm

      WALKABOUT — I am an atheist because that is where my mind leads me, it has nothing to do with my sexual orientation. My defense of homosexual rights has nothing to do with my sexual orientation. My record of heterosexuality is unblemished. It is my beliefs as a libertarian (and former conservative) that demand I defend the rights of every person, to defend them from the tyranny others would seek to impose upon them.

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    • Bruce P.
      Posted on May 1, 2012 at 9:54pm

      KRYPTONITE — speaking of repeatable scientific sources, please show us the repeatable scientific source that says there is no genetic link to homosexuality.

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    • YAHSHUARULES
      Posted on May 1, 2012 at 10:08pm

      Trying to respond to you characters who have been indoctrinated with this nonsense about a “gay” gene. READ THE PAPER which cites Homosexuals themselves, their papers, books, experts etc. Its out of their own mouths they are convicted of duplicity. Read the paper and then well talk. Respond about the sources cited in the paper among them Camille Paglia who says the idea of being born gay is perposterous and she is lesbian!
      Read the paper
      http://www.massresistance.org/docs/gen/08a/born_gay_hoax/TheBornGayHoax.pdf

      As far as the comments about me hating homosexuals – no not them, but the fowl evil perverse spirit that works through them, you betcha. These people are decieved, damaged and eventually destroyed by the working of evil through them. Sad part is they defend the evil that is manifesting through them, identify with it, rather then recognizing it for what it is and get deliverance from it. Like it or not there are absolutes. The Almighty is very clear as to what is an abomination. But He is also the God of Mercy and Grace and Comfort and He who said He knew everyone before He knit them together in their mother’s womb did NOT make anyone homosexual; its a learned behavior and it can be unlearned when one stops identifying with the perverse spirit, and puts the flesh under subjection to the Holy Spirit. We are told not to glorify the flesh but to mortify it.!

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    • Walkabout
      Posted on May 1, 2012 at 10:09pm

      Bruce P.

      ” to defend them from the tyranny others would seek to impose upon them.”

      Me I would divorce myself from gay society. Then the gays would be free to embark on their Quest for their Holy Grail, the gay gene. We could see if gays would sink or swim on their own as a society. If gays are 3.5 to 10% of society, give them 3.5 to 10% of the U.S. & build a wall. See if they survive.

      In the meantime straight society can fix psychology & give counseling to any new people who are born & become confused. also they could be protected from predators & the predators jailed. I was disturbed to hear a study in England that said that 40% of the prostitutes in England were rentboys.
      The rentboys were not a happy lot. No happy hookers there. It is a predator prey relationship (bottoms & tops). Being gay is sickness.

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    • Brittany-Imbriaarts
      Posted on May 1, 2012 at 10:37pm

      Yash I have read the info you provide and I see nothing about any scientific study just hear say and doubt on each issue, no actual sources provided all I can take your info for is nothing more then propaganda piece of pseudo-science. While I will state that no gay gene has been found I as a Transgender person not only have read countless articles that my issue has been seen and even with going through and having my own chromosomes tested come out as I have XXY two X‘s mean I am female and a XY means I’m male. I was born this way. To be fair I have three articles all that have scientific research and study behind them, but I‘m sure you or any other person hear doesn’t care to listen or look at facts just keep passing judgement on who should be and who shouldn’t

      http://www.pfc.org.uk/node/614 – Medical Study Jan. 1996 U.K. – Based on the basic general study of
      transgender in medical terms

      http://www.scientificamerican.com/article.cfm?id=how-boys-become-boys-and – How Boys become Boys and sometimes Girls (Scientific American May 2008)

      http://www.scientificamerican.com/article.cfm?id=going-beyond-x-and-y – Going Beyond X and Y
      (Scientific American June 2007)

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    • brother_ed
      Posted on May 1, 2012 at 11:02pm

      @BRUCE P.

      These folks are the reason that the left calls the Tea Party homophobes, etc..and it saddens me greatly.

      I know several homosexuals and one of my best friends (really) is a transsexual. They are good people who I am glad to count as friends. Their behavior may disqualify them from certain positions in my church, but in the real world they should not be discriminated against just because of their sexual identity.

      I am taught that the greatest commandment is to love God. The second is to love my neighbor as myself.

      I find the second one the most difficult.

      Ignore the haters.

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    • Bruce P.
      Posted on May 1, 2012 at 11:32pm

      BROTHER_ED — “good men remaining silent” and all.

      WALKABOUT — now we see your true colors. If you were to have your way, homosexuals would be imprisoned or worse. You cannot say you do not operate from a place of hatred.

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    • Dismayed Veteran
      Posted on May 2, 2012 at 12:34pm

      I am a Roman Catholic. To many evangelical Protestants, I am a member of a non-Christian cult with a social justice agenda. In their eyes, I am not a Conservative.

      I am going on 64. I have been a Republican since 1966. I believe in limited governement and fiscal conservatism.

      My religion is only one part of me. It is the private part that I seem to have to justify on a fairly frequent basis.

      Evangelicals will not sway me to leave my conservative view of government. I see no reason why homosexuals can’t be conservatives either. I don’t approve of their life choice since I believe it is a mortal sin. I understand all the abomination stuff. I understand all the love the sinner, hate the sin stuff. In politics, I am interested in voting Obama out of office and trying to bring this country back to center.

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  • ImMormon
    Posted on May 1, 2012 at 6:22pm

    I‘m a staunch conservative from one of the most conservative states and a member of one of the most conservative church’s. This LDS church has fought a very public battle in defending marriage and the family. I personally do not agree with the gay’s lifestyle and personally consider it a sin.

    However, though I disagree with their lifestyle I would never try to ban them from a campaign, or political party, and lump them in a group that I will not associate with nor find any similarities with. If they will join in our cause and our fight, knowing full well that we will not support them in their lifestyle, then I will join with them for the causes that we find common.

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    • Walkabout
      Posted on May 1, 2012 at 6:29pm

      I second that.

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    • soybomb315
      Posted on May 1, 2012 at 6:35pm

      i agree. i just find it offensive when politicians pick people to satisfy certain constituents (ie marco rubio). With all of romney’s neocon beliefs, i find it hard to believe this guy was the ‘most qualified’ – no, it was done for PC reasons.

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    • P8riot
      Posted on May 1, 2012 at 6:39pm

      right on.

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    • Walkabout
      Posted on May 1, 2012 at 6:48pm

      soybomb315

      I think Rubio would be a good pick for VP.

      I agree that Grennel is not the best candidate. Bolton would have been a better candidate if he were available.

      There was obviously some politics involved in his hiring.

      Romney a neocon. I think people kick that word around & don’t define it.

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    • Larry E
      Posted on May 1, 2012 at 6:55pm

      Amen!

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    • soybomb315
      Posted on May 1, 2012 at 7:04pm

      Its a valid point, we can try to define it….i can see two types of neoconism

      1.) the belief that the USA should spend 50% of the worlds military budget, the same as all the other countries in the world combined. And believing that military spending is good for the economy
      2.) the belief that the USA should be involved in the world’s conflicts whether or not we have a supporting reason. This is also tied to the belief that we should be subsidizing other countries through our military presence in exchange for handling their foreign relations (ie: saudi arabia, s korea, japan)

      of course, many people believe in #1 AND #2. Romney’s beliefs indicate he supports both types and has said nothing to dimish either of the two

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    • SANE_I think
      Posted on May 1, 2012 at 7:07pm

      Hate to say it, but Rubio’s parents are not American born citizens. (JUST LIKE OBAMA) he is not legally allowed to be VP or P. Two wrongs do not make a right! By the way, I am a Rubio fan. This law needs to be enforced. If they were more concerned with standing up for law and order, as well as the legal citizens of this country, they would be on Obama for this. They worry more about PC behavior and embarrassment. We could undo ALL THE WRONGS this Pres has done in one swift action! JMHO

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    • Cymry
      Posted on May 1, 2012 at 7:14pm

      @ walkabout,

      I can guarantee you that if Rubio or Jindel or any other constitutionally unqualified candidate is put forward in the gop vp slot…..romney would immediately loose 15% of the vote (birthers) and subsequently the election, count on it.

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    • CMDR6
      Posted on May 1, 2012 at 7:17pm

      Who banned this guy? Not the Romney campaign…..again, he quit. So much for courage of ones convictions……

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    • kindling
      Posted on May 1, 2012 at 7:19pm

      well said

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    • kryptonite
      Posted on May 1, 2012 at 7:42pm

      @IMMORMON
      I would never try to ban them from a campaign, or political party…
      —–
      This is not about banning anyone. It’s about who the GOP presidential hopeful surrounds himself with. Grenell is not just gay; he is a gay ACTIVIST. In his own words, “If gays are going to win support for their POLITICAL issues, they better start playing smarter politics.” (emphasis added). http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/post-partisan/post/richard-grenell-chose-power-over-principle-on-marriage-equality/2012/04/24/gIQAK9yeeT_blog.html

      Is that the kind of guy you would want anywhere near Romney?

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    • Walkabout
      Posted on May 1, 2012 at 7:46pm

      SoyBomb315

      “Neoconservatism is a variant of the political ideology of conservatism which combines features of traditional conservatism with political individualism and a qualified endorsement of free markets.[1] Neoconservatism (or new conservatives) is rooted in a group of former liberals, who in the late 1960s, began to oppose many of the policies and principles associated with President Lyndon Johnson’s Great Society programs.[2] The term “neoconservative” was initially used in the 1930s to describe American liberals who criticized other liberals who followed a path closer to Soviet communism”

      When 911 happened & we asked the Taliban to hand over Usama they refused. We were supposed to do what?

      1. Cry & sit on our hands.
      2. Allow the Taliban to conduct the trial & let Usama be exonerated.
      3. Bomb the Taliban & leave only to have them reoccupy Afghanistan a few years later?

      Now on to Iraq.
      There was a plot uncovered by the Kuwaitis to kill Bush Sr. We were suppose to ignore that? We are suppose to say that is not an act of war? Or is it you don’t believe there was a plot?

      I believe that there were other parties involved in Oklahoma City Bombing than just McVeigh. There was assistance to the plotters of the 1993 WTC bombing from Iraq. So what do you propose. Fortress America?

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    • Walkabout
      Posted on May 1, 2012 at 7:53pm

      Cymry

      I don’t know how much the birther affect the election.

      I think Obama’s father is Frank Marshall Davis. I think the Kenyan/Obama angle was to cover up the fact that a 19 or 20 yo white girl was messing around with a much older Frank Davis. DNA tests would tell.

      It is much more acceptable even o among the leftists for Stanley to have married a foreigner nearly her age than for here to have a child out of wedlock with a known, married black radical (age 50 or so) who was much older.

      All we have to do is get DNA from his 1/2 sequence it. Then we get DNA from some utensil Obama has used & compare it.

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    • soybomb315
      Posted on May 1, 2012 at 8:04pm

      @walkabout
      you are so poorly informed it isnt even fair
      1.) congress authorized the use of force to destroy al qaeda (ron paul supported it). we went into afganistan to finish the job. We destroyed al qaeda and later killed bin laden. we are still there.
      2.) we invaded iraq to prevent/capture WMDs and “spread freedom” (ron paul did not support). how has that one worked out?

      I dont know what your point is other than that ron paul was right on both accounts

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    • RepubliCorp
      Posted on May 1, 2012 at 8:44pm

      agree………

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    • Bruce P.
      Posted on May 1, 2012 at 8:55pm

      CYMRY — what makes Rubio or Jindal “constitutionally unqualified?” Rubio was born in Miami, Florida and Bobby Jindal in Baton Rogue, Louisiana.

      Unless you think that only white people are qualified to run for President…

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    • Todd P
      Posted on May 1, 2012 at 9:09pm

      IMMORMON, that sounds like a very mature position – I agree completely!

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    • Walkabout
      Posted on May 1, 2012 at 10:02pm

      soybomb315
      Posted on May 1, 2012 at 8:04pm

      @walkabout
      you are so poorly informed it isnt even fair
      1.) congress authorized the use of force to destroy al qaeda (ron paul supported it). we went into afganistan to finish the job. We destroyed al qaeda and later killed bin laden. we are still there.
      2.) we invaded iraq to prevent/capture WMDs and “spread freedom” (ron paul did not support). how has that one worked out
      ***
      1. Al Qaeda is like a cancer. It had metastasized. They were already Al Qaeda in Somalia in1993.
      In regards to Al Qaeda in the Tribal Regions, we can do what we are doing. We can go home & let them re invade Afghanistan. We can somehow pressure Pakistan to go into Waziristan (Do you propose that? How?). We can declare war on Pakistan. I see you exercising the 2nd option.

      2. The WMDs are in Syria. Also the Regime under Saddam broke the armistice. Many, many U.N. weapomns inspections were held up. The weapon inspectors having to play a cat & mouse game with Iraq, is not proof of Iraq living up to the armistice. Iraq broke the armistice, so that mean that resumption of hostilities is legal & probably warranted.

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    • Cymry
      Posted on May 1, 2012 at 10:33pm

      Natural Born Citizen (A2S1C5 US Constitution): Minor v. Happersett USSC definition, this holding is still in effect.

      Parents (plural) are US Citizens when child is born on US Soil. pretty simple actually.

      this fact is being obfuscated in order to avoid a constitutional crisis (by cowards).

      Anything else and you are lying to yourself or too dumb to vote. Race is NOT RELEVANT.

      If you knowingly participated in the cover up…….misprison of treason.

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    • Mutiny
      Posted on May 1, 2012 at 10:56pm

      Its was poor judgement by Romney. He should have been smarter and seen this storm coming. As usual Romney was pandering trying to do or say whatever to get votes. First off he needs to understand the gay vote is going democrat. Romney would have to bang that dude on stage to sway any real percentage of gay voters over to him.

      A vote for flip flop Mitt is a vote for Obama.

      Ron Paul 2012

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    • brother_ed
      Posted on May 1, 2012 at 11:06pm

      @IMMORMON

      As always, well said.

      Greetings from the Lewisville Texas Stake of Zion.

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    • Mutiny
      Posted on May 1, 2012 at 11:38pm

      I dont understand how all of the Mormons think what Romney did was ok. This guy is a gay activist. Not just a in the closet gay. The activists are the ones that wear stupid clothes and prance around waving flags. I dont like gays, i dont want my children around gays. I honestly dont care what anyone does in their own time, but when they start being activists around my family is when I have had enough.

      I know why the support. You are trying to comfort each other and reassure each other Romney is the right guy. You go on and on defending his horrible record and it just looks desperate.

      Romney and Obama are the same.
      1. Budget that doesnt cut current spending levels.
      2. Continue the nation building sending us closer and closer to bankruptcy.
      3. Has no issue taking American citizens freedoms “ for our own safety”.
      4. Both support gun restrictions.
      5. Both support the Abortion laws on the books.
      6. Neither will stop the TSA.
      7. Both are funded by the same big banks.
      8. Neither are willing to take on the FED who is devaluing our dollar, which will eventually lead to the dollar being taken off oil. Once that happens its ballgame.

      You can vote for who you like for whatever reason you like. If Romney is the candidate, the Ron Paul supporters will not vote with him. Romney cannot win without the Paul supporters. If you truely want Obama gone its time to wake up and get behind the right guy. Not the guy Bill Oreilly or the GOP tell you to vot

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  • trueamerican40
    Posted on May 1, 2012 at 6:13pm

    Since Odumbo has introduced Black Theology into the political forum, this country has become more divided and angrier. Stay united and vote for Romney in November. When given a choice between hemlock and a thorn in my finger…I’ll take the thorn. Homosexuality is wrong but hating your fellow humanbeing is wrong as well.

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    • teamarcheson
      Posted on May 1, 2012 at 6:25pm

      This brings into question what kind of candidate Romney really is and what kind of President he would make. Would it be better to elect Romney President and have a President the GOP Congress will give a pass to or re-elect Obama so he can be impeached by a GOP Senate and House? Of course we would end up with a our first alcoholic President in history.

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    • soybomb315
      Posted on May 1, 2012 at 6:27pm

      why settle for a thorn when you can vote for the antidote?

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    • encinom
      Posted on May 1, 2012 at 8:38pm

      Nah, is just the Tea Bagging Christians that can stand a blck man in the white house.

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    • Cymry
      Posted on May 1, 2012 at 10:45pm

      yeah! encinom is back and he’s stupider than ever. :)

      have you thought about getting your GED? it might help as far as giving your commentary (that means the things you write in this discussion board) a little more dimension (meaning). I’ve noticed that your vocabulary (that means the number of words you know how to read/use) is limited to black man, white man, teabaggers, christians, and oppression to name a few, very few. who knows encinom, with the educational system (school) in america having been destroyed by the liberals, maybe even you could get a college degree! wow! wouldn’t that be cool?

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    • Ohello
      Posted on May 2, 2012 at 12:09am

      Encinom
      Don‘t you know thar are Mormon’s that post here? Not gun toten Bible huggin white Christians from Pennsylvania?…. just like BHO is christian as a result of attending his black lib church in Chi-town

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  • Leader1776
    Posted on May 1, 2012 at 6:13pm

    Unfortunately in today’s political climate many (most?) homosexuals have been schooled to be homosexual before being anything else (man/woman; professional; citizen; and, yes, humanitarian). Thanks to the left and radical homosexuals those homosexuals that just want to live their lives in peace with dignity ……….. can’t do so.

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  • Brittany-Imbriaarts
    Posted on May 1, 2012 at 6:13pm

    Gotta say I’m not surprised, the far right doesn’t respect that there are LGBT conservatives. But I can say from experience we do exist and its really dis-hearting to deal with the hate from both ends, one end for who you are personally the other end for who you are spiritually and politically. It is sad to see the man step down and I think this can only lead to a greater black mark that the left will use constantly as a way to bash Romney. Though I would like to know who is speaking out against him cause I certainly haven’t heard any remarks from any other then a few individuals on the web.

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    • soybomb315
      Posted on May 1, 2012 at 6:31pm

      anyone who is a ‘conservative’ should not classify themselves as a group or class. we are all human beings and have the same constitutional rights. just because someone is gay doesnt mean everyone has to know their sexual preferences or that they should be a protected class because of it. I dont feel the need to join a heterosexual group or tell the world i love banging chicks

      Of course, i am talking about his ‘openness’ and your reference to LGBT

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    • Walkabout
      Posted on May 1, 2012 at 6:33pm

      I can go onto a gay blog & find any number of religious bashers. On one particular blog one poster has an icon of a cross with the rainbow colors. None of the other posters support that particular poster.

      Point is you can find more sympathy here if you are gay than if you are Christian or some other religion on a gay blog.

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    • Brittany-Imbriaarts
      Posted on May 1, 2012 at 6:52pm

      I understand your statement but in many ways it is the case, when your political your life will be looked into so its better to have your life open as to not hide from what you can have prosecute you later on in your career. Same way a person who was a member of a racist group like the KKK should be upfront about it or doom their chances to move on. He wasn’t describing his sexuality he was just stating it for his own political future. I on the other hand stand as a Transgender individual don’t get the chance to hide who I am that well, so its ether keep it hidden progress to a point where it doesn’t matter to people. Or stand firm and say this is who I am physically but do not judge my outside before seeing my actions and words from the inside.

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    • soybomb315
      Posted on May 1, 2012 at 7:09pm

      i understand. i think it would have been a more noble position for a politician to not be “openly” and if push comes to shove and people ask questions – then you either tell them its none of their business or you tell them you are gay. then it would be shame on the people asking the questions

      of course, i’m only talking about politicians here

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    • Walkabout
      Posted on May 1, 2012 at 7:13pm

      Some real hate at this website.

      If they don’t like what you say they get your IP address. Some real charmers.

      http://joemygod.blogspot.com/2012/05/romneys-gay-spokesman-resigns.html

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  • RightPolitically
    Posted on May 1, 2012 at 6:11pm

    How fast will he make tracks for the Obama campaign? Quick!

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  • surfaboybz
    Posted on May 1, 2012 at 6:09pm

    looking at all your hateful rhetoric is really disappointing, in fact if nothing affirming what the media and the left has to say about you.

    i’m a conservative, and happen to be gay – with the same partner almost 9 years, which is better than most hetero‘s in today’s age.

    i’m also a doctor. and it just makes me sick that i have to go into work, and actually help/ save the lives of people as ignorant and hateful as i see here; when at the very least i thought the ideas of FREEDOM and AMERICA are what we should be fighting and standing for. it’s enough to make me want to jump ship and vote for Obama, because for everything he is, he doesn’t HATE on a person for WHO they are. but the thought of actually voting for him is so nauseating, i may just not vote instead.

    thanks again to all of you, and for reminding me what petty looks like.

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    • Tightroper2
      Posted on May 1, 2012 at 6:30pm

      Nice try. “Hating on …” What putative, well-educated person would use that type of yokel patois? If you were truly conservatve and homosexual — an oxymoron if there ever was one! — you wouldn‘t be attempting to somehow convince real conservatives that because you’ve been shacked up with another perv for nine years that that is a good thing.

      Take a conservative prostitute, for example. Would she argue that because she always insists that her johns use “protection,” this makes what she does righteous?

       
    • Bruce P.
      Posted on May 1, 2012 at 8:43pm

      TIGHTROPE — you have no right to say who is and isn’t a conservative. In fact, you are not a conservative, at all. I thought conservatives were supposed to be about freedom. Except, apparently, when it comes to homosexuals. Then government interference is okay, right?

      Oh, I know it’s because the Bible tells you to hate gays, and you’re a good Christian. Such a good Christian, you will ignore everything in the Bible, except when it comes to homosexuals.

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    • kryptonite
      Posted on May 1, 2012 at 9:29pm

      @surfaboybz
      when at the very least i thought the ideas of FREEDOM and AMERICA are what we should be fighting and standing for.
      —-
      Ah! I’m glad you put those two words together, because FREEDOM when spoken in the context of, say, EGYPT or RUSSIA is not something I would fight for. AMERICA, absolutely, because our notion of FREEDOM is founded on Judeo-Christian values. To those of us who want to safeguard THAT America, marriage can only be between one man and one woman . Are you getting my drift?

      THEREFORE:

      We vehemently oppose gay activists — like Grenell — who want to subvert/transform/destroy America’s foundational, societal definition of marriage. Got it?

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  • Tightroper2
    Posted on May 1, 2012 at 6:09pm

    Romney should have better sense than to foist a homosexual on the many conservative voters who clearly don’t trust him to begin with.

    Every conservative knew where Bush was coming from so Bush could get away with appointing a queer. Not flaky Romney, though.

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  • SubHuman
    Posted on May 1, 2012 at 6:01pm

    We actually have no proof, other than Grennell’s claim, that he resigned due to pressure from anti-gay groups. The links provided give scant evidence of overwhelming or real pressure. Grennell could have resigned or been forced to to resign for any number of reasons. Accepting him at his word without any backup statements from the Romney campaign or others is shoddy journalism. Is this the low standard The Blaze and Glenn Beck really wish to set?

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  • soybomb315
    Posted on May 1, 2012 at 6:01pm

    “In fact, Grenell reportedly resigned in spite of being all but begged by the Romney campaign not to.”

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    • Walkabout
      Posted on May 1, 2012 at 6:49pm

      “Right Turn has learned from multiple sources that the senior officials from the Romney campaign and respected Republicans not on the campaign contacted Ric Grenell over the weekend in an attempt to persuade him not to leave the campaign. Those were unsuccessful. During the two weeks after Grenell’s hiring was announced the Romney campaign did not put Grenell out to comment on national security matters and did not use him on a press foreign policy conference call. Despite the controversy in new media and in conservative circles, there was no public statement of support for Grenell by the campaign and no supportive social conservatives were enlisted to calm the waters. Beyond his statement, Grenell has declined further comment today.”

      http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/right-turn/post/exclusive-richard-grenell-hounded-from-romney-campaign-by-anti-gay-conservatives/2012/05/01/gIQAccGcuT_blog.html

      Who do we believe?

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    • soybomb315
      Posted on May 1, 2012 at 7:11pm

      sounds like the stories match up. your source would indicate he wasnt even being used in his ‘foreign affairs’ position (just the token LGBT guy?)

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  • justangry
    Posted on May 1, 2012 at 5:49pm

    Well I don‘t care if he’s gay or not, but I‘m glad he’s gone. Romney’s foreign policy sucks. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mlg45UcomRI&feature=relmfu

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    • soybomb315
      Posted on May 1, 2012 at 5:59pm

      i dont think romney is going to flip-flop towards the constitution though. mitt romney still thinks the rest of the world is our enemy and that we need to significantly increase military spending

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    • P8riot
      Posted on May 1, 2012 at 6:35pm

      @soy – It’s called peace through strength.

      By the way – the bumper-sticker line saying that Mitt believes “the rest of the world is our enemy” is as ridiculous as me saying that Ron Paul believes the rest of the world is our best-best-friends and therefore thinks we don’t need a military.

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    • soybomb315
      Posted on May 1, 2012 at 6:44pm

      i call it bankruptcy through deficit spending

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    • soybomb315
      Posted on May 1, 2012 at 6:53pm

      ron paul wants to be bff with everybody….lol

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    • P8riot
      Posted on May 1, 2012 at 7:07pm

      @soy-

      As a constitutional conservative, I understand that national security is the number one job of the federal government as enumerated in the Constitution. In fact, it is the only mandatory function of the federal government (all the rest of the enumerated powers are permissive in nature). Thus, cutting the military is the LAST place we should be cutting (at least according to the constitution).

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    • P8riot
      Posted on May 1, 2012 at 7:11pm

      “ron paul wants to be bff with everybody….lol” – now THERE’S a good bumper-sticker!

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    • soybomb315
      Posted on May 1, 2012 at 7:25pm

      yes, if only the federal govt would stick to the constitution. the problem is that our military is probably too big for the current threats to our country. our military for the last 60 years is more than adequate to repel any invasion or attack – but yet no country has even considered such a thing. Read the founders, they were against standing armies. The reason for this is that standing armies dont just sit around, the politicians and government will FIND uses for them. Whether it is invading Iraq, establishing imperialism (phillipines, puerto rico, etc), or getting involved in other countries affairs (libya).

      What percent of the economy should be used for national defense? I say no more than 5%, enough to secure borders and enough to repel a border invasion. Of course, if we are attacked we could muster the forces and the people would be supportive (a la WWI, WWII). Look at last year’s defense budget per capita – we are spending $4,000 PER PERSON. My household would find a much better way to spend $8,000, how about you? I could buy a ton of guns/ammo and if we were ever invaded – here is a marksman ready to go.
      http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:PerCapitaInflationAdjustedDefenseSpending.PNG

      Now you will say ‘what about terrorism’….I say special forces and intelligence. We hardly spend any money on those two things and they are the ONLY way to fight terrorism

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    • justangry
      Posted on May 1, 2012 at 7:27pm

      @Patriot… Bud, we are WAY over-powered as it is now. Way past the point of being able to defend our country. Click the link.

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    • P8riot
      Posted on May 1, 2012 at 7:45pm

      you both have great points. I will concede that there is a lot of waste happening within ANY government entity. However, I simply think that this is a discussion to have AFTER all the discretionary spending is cut first.

      I know we all agree that we seriously need to clean house and cut the fat from the government. This is EXACTLY what Romney did during his time at Bain Capital. When Romney beats Obama, it will be the first time in a long time that the sitting President actually has experience cutting spending rather than adding to it.

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    • Walkabout
      Posted on May 1, 2012 at 8:05pm

      soybomb315

      1. You got to consider purchasing power parity when looking at China’s military outlays not just raw dollars.

      2. You have to consider if tech is stolen than the thieving country does not have as much a military budget. Spying may be much cheaper than R &D.

      3. Another reason the budget is big, is that Europe’s it too small. If theirs was bigger ours could be smaller. The Europeans are not living up to NATO treaty obligations in terms of percentage spending. European military spending is such a joke. if the want to cross a small body of water like the Mediterranean to conduct operations in Libya or Syria they have to ask the U.S. for help.

      F_ck them.

      The Eurotrrds or Eurotrash could not prevent or stop war in their own back yard, Yugoslavia. Is it too hard for the French to drive thru Italy to get to Yugoslavaia?

      Is it too hard for the Germantards to drive thru Austria to get to Yugoslavia?

      They could have driven to Yugoslavia & tried to stop the genocide, but the Serbs would have handed their a a$$es to them.

      Some people spend too little on the military, i.e. the Europeans ( a bunch of self righteous whiners).

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    • soybomb315
      Posted on May 1, 2012 at 8:14pm

      walkabout you are the problem

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    • justangry
      Posted on May 1, 2012 at 8:20pm

      @Walkabout, Nato was a reponse to the Soviet Union. Why do we need it after they collapsed? (by doing the same thing we’re doing, btw)

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    • soybomb315
      Posted on May 1, 2012 at 8:32pm

      after our little three-way constitutional military discussion, walkabout comes in and shows his hostility and ignorance of the constitution. with people like that picking our leaders, we are screwed

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    • Walkabout
      Posted on May 1, 2012 at 9:09pm

      justangry

      NATO was in response to USSR. They are gone. So you say. So it wasn’t the Russians that stopped the missile shield to protect the Europeans & us form Iranian missiles? Maybe it was the Elbonians that Dilbert mentions that caused the Commander in Chief from deploying a missile shield.

      The Ancient Assyrian Empire had 3 acts. The Russian Empire is done? Kaput? Nay I think that was just act 2.

      Also Soybean never countered the Purchasing power parity argument. I( mention ed it, but I am just a little,old poster. the #6 radio show host mentions it also. Just by trying to “outshout” me with posts that the ideal will go away?

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    • soybomb315
      Posted on May 1, 2012 at 9:16pm

      @walkabout
      china’s currency is weaker than ours. when they calculate military spending, they convert it on a dollar basis. for evidence i refer you to our 700 military bases around the world and our overwhelming global force. i figured it was such a nonsense argument that i need not adress it

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    • justangry
      Posted on May 1, 2012 at 9:59pm

      @Walkabout, Sigh… Yes, the Soviet Union collapsed and it‘s not ME that’s saying it.

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    • Mutiny
      Posted on May 1, 2012 at 11:09pm

      @p8triot

      Actually at Bain, Romney used 44 million in government bailouts to help turn that company into profit for himself and his investors. He is no hero. He is funded by the same bad people Obama is.

      Honestly, I believe deep down a lot of you Mormons supporting Romney are truely conservative, but your blind following this bad candidate is not making you look good.

      We need a president that proposes a budget that cuts current spending levels. Obama and Romney dont cut current spending levels.

      We need to end these now pointless wars. Why are we still in Afghanistan? Remember we were the global police force when 911 happened. We did prevent it. According to the 911 commission and the CIA we caused it. Do you think accidentally bombing a house with kids in it makes their father more or less likely to want to shoot or blow up Americans? Do you really think Iran can do anything to us?

      Romney and Obama are both for the Patriot Act and the NDAA. How can any of you support either of these men?

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  • mcsledge
    Posted on May 1, 2012 at 5:47pm

    Nature promotes life or the expantion thereof. People procreate. Animals procreate. Trees, bushes, flowers, vegitation and even weeds increase through seeds and/or pollination. Even micro organism have a life cycle and seek to create and expand.

    Homosexuality does not promote life. Homosexuality is anti-nature or unnatural, if you will. PERIOD.

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    • Nuncle
      Posted on May 1, 2012 at 6:14pm

      By your reasoning postmenapausal women are anti-nature as are worker bees. Your reasonings fail. There are lots of strategies in nature for growth. Strict monogamy is just one. Don’t think you want to base your augument on that.

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    • Todd P
      Posted on May 1, 2012 at 9:06pm

      You are correct – it is unnatural. And BTW: post-menapausal women are no different than any living creature who has served their purpose in procreation; they are now in the declining stage of their lives, but that is not unnatural. Being intrinsically incapable of procreation (not because of a personal defect, but because you simply cannot fit Tab-A into Tab-B…..) is NOT natural. NUNCLE is comparing apples to oranges and coming up with sour grapes!

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  • mils
    Posted on May 1, 2012 at 5:42pm

    i agree..
    also, we will be looking for a new political party after this election
    i do not believe the gop represents us at this point..
    however, to not vote republican in this election will give obama the election..so a third party is out of the question..
    mitt needs to step up on this one…as obama will use it as a shovel to hit him over the head with…
    BLAZE…please tell us the names of these commentators that have been so vocal..

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  • quiltgal
    Posted on May 1, 2012 at 5:42pm

    I’m sorry he gave up. I have some gay friends who are staunch conservatives. Not only that, they are NRA members, Tea Party members, and contribute significant amounts of money to conservative causes and candidates. It really make me mad to hear of any conservatives being bullied out of the movement.

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    • Tightroper2
      Posted on May 1, 2012 at 6:15pm

      You’re stretching your ad hoc B.S. just a little too far. You’re probably a homosexual yourself, futilely trying to casually pass off homosexuals for what they are not: True Conservatives,.

      Why? you ask.

      Because conservatives, ipso facto, oppose every premise, demand and sexual sickness of homosexuality — especially so-called homosexual “marriage.” That‘s why you’re just not believable.

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    • quiltgal
      Posted on May 1, 2012 at 7:44pm

      @tightroper2

      And just who elevated you to make the final decision about what constitutes a conservative? Methinks you are simply a hate monger–like Obama, the Irreverent Wright, and the Dishonorable Minister Louis Farrakhan, all Democrats and all brimming with hate talk. It’s about time good people called out such phonies, including yourself, for what they really are: destructive, miserable human beings without a shred of humility or compassion. The important question is not what people do quietly in their own bedrooms, but how much we are going to allow big government or any special interest group to control other individual’s lives.

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    • Bruce P.
      Posted on May 1, 2012 at 9:00pm

      TIGHTROPE — why do conservatives “have” to oppose homosexuality? What is conservative about opposing not a person’s politics by the person themselves?

      This is why I am no longer a “conservative,” I suppose. I am no longer at home there with hate-mongers such as yourself, who declare instead of fighting to ensure freedom for all peoples in our nation, we must fight to ensure they only lead lives as we see fit.

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    • Walkabout
      Posted on May 1, 2012 at 9:14pm

      Bruce P.

      TIGHTROPE — why do conservatives “have” to oppose homosexuality?
      _____________________________________
      and maybe you are just a plant.

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    • Bruce P.
      Posted on May 1, 2012 at 10:02pm

      WALKABOUT — A straw-man if there ever was on. It is easier to call me a plant and dismiss my arguments than it is to produce a counter-argument.

      What you fail to realize is that even if I were a plant, dismissing my argument simply on that basis is itself a genetic fallacy. Even if I were a plant, that does not mean I am wrong.

      Try again.

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  • GoodStuff
    Posted on May 1, 2012 at 5:36pm

    “anti-gay attacks”

    Really Mytheos? Really? You need to get out of the NYC bubble as soon as possible. It’s unhealthy for your brain.

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  • Pilgrimsarbour
    Posted on May 1, 2012 at 5:32pm

    And once again, to be opposed to the thousands-of-years-old definition of marriage being changed, is “anti-gay.”

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    • GoodStuff
      Posted on May 1, 2012 at 6:52pm

      And from a so-called “conservative” site no less.

      Shame on the Blaze and Mytheos Holt for playing the Orwellian word games that the Old Media has played for years. I though Blaze was supposed to be part of the conservative New Media. Political correctness is a mental disorder.

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  • dsm
    Posted on May 1, 2012 at 5:31pm

    The article says several anti-gay conservative commentators. How many are several? I listen to many conservative commenatators and I haven’t heard one peep from them about this guy.

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    • Pilgrimsarbour
      Posted on May 1, 2012 at 5:48pm

      Anti-gay means ANYTHING AT ALL AT ANYTIME AND IN ANY PLACE that even hints at questioning, challenging, being curious about or in any way opposing the gay agenda, dontcha know. Gay activists are above reproach, pure as the wind-driven snow, completely above the fray. We are completely unworthy of asking even the simplest question for clarification, much less being in opposition to anything they want to do. We are lowly, sleazy, radical haters and must be destroyed for our own good. Just ask Dan Savage, the epitome of high class and all that is good and right in the world.

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  • TH30PH1LUS
    Posted on May 1, 2012 at 5:29pm

    The time of choosing is quickly approaching.

    “then Moses stood in the gate of the camp and said, “Who is on the LORD’s side? Come to me.” And all the sons of Levi gathered around him.” Exodus 32:26

    “Elijah went before the people and said, “How long will you waver between two opinions? If the LORD is God, follow him; but if Baal is God, follow him.“ But the people said nothing” 1 Kings 18:21

    “When the Son of Man comes in his glory, and all the angels with him, he will sit on his glorious throne. All the nations will be gathered before him, and he will separate the people one from another as a shepherd separates the sheep from the goats. He will put the sheep on his right and the goats on his left.” Matthew 25:31-33

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  • Pilgrimsarbour
    Posted on May 1, 2012 at 5:28pm

    I find the use of the word “attacks” in the headline misleading. I wonder what in Blazes is going on with this website? I think we’re going to see more and more of this emotional rhetoric, even on supposedly conservative sites, from now on. And as our country continues its downward slide into the slough, there’s little anyone can do about it.

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  • jmcclena
    Posted on May 1, 2012 at 5:26pm

    So sad the Republicans have been taken over by the extreme right wing. You say hate the sin, not the sinner, I say hate the belief, not the believer.

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    • mcsledge
      Posted on May 1, 2012 at 5:51pm

      I am not sure what you mean by your comment. We all error. We all make mistakes. We all sin. There are many things that we do that are immoral or unholy. Homosexuality is one of the many. However, ignoring it or belittling the fact that it is an unholy and impure practice will never help anyone.

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    • mcsledge
      Posted on May 1, 2012 at 5:58pm

      Oops. I made a couple of comments without reading the whole story.

      Although I believe that homosexuality is a sin and a growing problem in America (one that has been a contributing force to the destruction of past civilizations), let he who is without sin cast the first stone.

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    • usedCZARsalesman
      Posted on May 1, 2012 at 6:06pm

      In what world is holding to the same Christian tenants that this country and its laws were founded on also “far right-wing”? Can you name a single other lifestyle CHOICE that only 3% of the pop. CHOOSES that is also called “natural”? If the entire world were homosexual the ENTIRE HUMAN RACE WOULD END IN ONE GENERATION…can you think of any other act that is condoned that yields the same results? You people are unblieveable. “Hate the belief”??? So ignorant and sad.

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    • jmcclena
      Posted on May 1, 2012 at 6:18pm

      This country was founded to escape religious tyranny. You sound like you need a history lesson. Stop listening to charlatans and hucksters like David Barton. Guess what, the entire world is NOT homosexual, and there is no risk of it becoming such. Why can’t we grant the same rights afforded to heterosexuals to homosexuals? There is nothing they can do to change the way they were born. You evangelicals really are shameful.

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    • usedCZARsalesman
      Posted on May 3, 2012 at 6:10pm

      your ignorance (and the ignorance of all liberals) is telling…the Founders came here to escape STATE RUN religious tyranny. It was the Church of England (not the Christian religion) they were fleeing. In fact (if you knew any history yourself) many founders were members of state leg. that implemented their own STATE RELIGIONS!!! I don’t know of a single politician that is advocating taking RIGHTS (marriage isn’t a right, its a judeo-christian institution that you must follow certain rules to be included in) away from gays? Your argument is pathetic, it’s amazing to me how many so-called “smart people” are anything but.

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  • Smokey_Bojangles
    Posted on May 1, 2012 at 5:26pm

    So liking Objects in your butt disqualifies you from loving the Constitution? Did Conservatives forget about Baron von Steuben? Without him there would have been no Constitution!

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  • geonj
    Posted on May 1, 2012 at 5:23pm

    conservatives and liberals, poisonous sides of the same coin. i am right of center and you can call me all the names you want. but the cons that did this did the American people a disservice today.

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  • trueamerican40
    Posted on May 1, 2012 at 5:19pm

    This society today has been poisoned from oversensitivity. Wah! Wah! Grow the he11 up and fix the economy and make a budget.

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    • mils
      Posted on May 1, 2012 at 5:25pm

      we are narrowing who we are to the point that third party is looking really good about now.
      .come the election after this one..i think we will look into other ways to be represented than the GOP..
      .not at all happy with these people that call them an enclusive party. narrow minded little biggots
      this is a “big” deal and obama campaign will use it effectively. Mitt needs to step forward about not wanting the resignation..

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    • Fubared
      Posted on May 1, 2012 at 5:34pm

      That is waaaay tooo simple. It is better to let everyone know about your personal life, do the circuit, talk to the print, internet and cable media about your feelings and how that makes you feel, to be feeling your feelings, and does this make my ass look fat on tv, and oh my another feeling to emote and describe in flowery language to the hyper media.
      Nah, simple math and budgets did not get these people onto the stage. Would be nice though.

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