Crime

Anti-Police Brutality Blogger Jailed For Tape Recording Public Officials

A New Hampshire man has been sentenced to just under three months behind bars for secretly recording conversations with Manchester police and school officials.

The recordings made by 30-year-old Adam Mueller (Miller) were posted on a blog affiliated with a website that claims to police the police. The Huffington Post describes the background of the case:

Last October, video surfaced on CopBlock.org of 17-year-old Frank W. Harrington being lifted from his seat in the school cafeteria by a school police officer and slammed face-first into a table.

At the time, Harrington took his sister’s purse and said he was “just messing around.” Although the West High School teen said his sister was largely unconcerned, school officials involved school resource officer Darren Murphy, who lifted Harrington off his seat, spun him around, forced him onto the table and arrested him.

Harrington was suspended for 12 days and charged with disorderly conduct and resisting arrest.

Michael Proulx, the 17-year-old junior at the school who recorded the incident, was also told by a school official that it’s “illegal to film,” and ordered to delete anything he had recorded. Proulx lied, saying he had only taken photos, and pretended to erase them.

In response, Mueller took to CopBlock.org to defend both Proulx and Harrington, noting in a report that “Murphy provides the misguided administrator an exact example why filming police is important – oh, and it’s not illegal at all.” He also called the Manchester police department and the school seeking comment.

But he chose to record the conversations he had with a Manchester police captain, the Manchester High School West principal and a school secretary, and then included soundbites in a video post. The wiretapping indictments came a few months later, and he is accused of recording the conversations without the other parties’ consent.

Mueller, who represented himself, said he caused no harm to the officials. He said the law shouldn’t apply to them. He was convicted Monday of three counts of recording conversations without permission.

Mueller justified his position this way:

Here’s how I see the offer: it’s a stellar deal if I actually thought what I had done was wrong…First, I can’t go against my principles and sign a deal that says I acknowledge my actions as wrong or illegal. Second, I’m not a hypocrite. How can I advocate refusing plea deals and sign one myself? I don’t judge anyone who has taken pleas because each case/charge is different. Third, I am confident I can show a jury, with facts and logic, that I shouldn’t be caged for my actions.

Police say the recordings were made in conjunction with an Oct. 3 incident in which a school security officer was videotaped forcibly handcuffing a student. Mueller posted tape recordings of conversations with Manchester High School West officials and a police captain on www.copblock.org .

The Associated Press contributed to this report.

 

Comments (103)

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  • AllLost
    Posted on August 14, 2012 at 6:42am

    I have known only good cops in my life. I guess I am lucky. But even good cops make mistakes. Dealing with the trash they do day in and day out leads to some poor reactions down the line. Bad cops do exist out there, but a cop or politician or just plain Joe Publicl should be able to be video taped in a public setting.

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    • Mil-Dot
      Posted on August 14, 2012 at 7:05am

      In post World War ll Italy, they chased down Mussolini and all of his goons. All of the traitors that enabled and protected him and all of those that passed laws and enforced them to keep him in power were hunted down and either hanged or shot. That is what happens to traitors. The same thing will happen here.

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    • JesterJay
      Posted on August 14, 2012 at 8:05am

      I hear you but the problem is a traitior is based on perspective. Its is very important to remember how the founding fathers of this country were traitors. If they were captured they would have been exicuted. I am now a terrorist by Homeland Security,I am openly patriotic, I attend Tea Party protests. I own a “don’t tread on me” flag, I own and associate with people who own firearms, and member of Freedom works. I thought that this all ment I was an American that loves his country.

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    • Rickfromillinois
      Posted on August 14, 2012 at 8:56am

      Ask yourselves why politicians would ever pass a law making it illegal to record public officials and police officers? Is there any scenario where a reasonable person could say it was for the benefit of the citizens or is it for the benefit of government officials?

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    • supermansdad
      Posted on August 14, 2012 at 5:50pm

      Mil-Dot
      Posted on August 14, 2012 at 7:05am
      In post World War ll Italy, they chased down Mussolini and all of his goons. All of the traitors that enabled and protected him and all of those that passed laws and enforced them to keep him in power were hunted down and either hanged or shot. That is what happens to traitors. The same thing will happen here.

      Your ignorance is laughable! Your detest for any law enforcement offical is disturbing. The fact your screen name is taken from a military (government) tool is just hilarious considering your hatred and complete for the Government of the PEOPLE, by the PEOPLE and for the PEOPLE.

      p.s. Cops are citizens too. You really don’t think that thru do you? Cops own guns also!

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    • rookorami
      Posted on August 14, 2012 at 6:14pm

      Rick the fack that he recorded a public official is not what is illegal. The wiretapping laws vary from state to state however, the state that this took place it is illegal to record a conversation with out both parties consent. I am all for video taping police action. Its a job where you can lose perspective and it helps keep them honest. I know there are still bad cops but there are many good ones too.

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    • Judeo_Christian
      Posted on August 14, 2012 at 7:13pm

      So if it is unlawful for recordings to be made if both parties dont provide permission? So what about police dash-cams and interrogation room cameras? I suppose those apply to this law too? Well of course not…why would the government have to abide by the same laws as the people (said in my most sacastic tone possible.)

      If the people put up with that non-sense in that state, they deserve the government they have.

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    • supermansdad
      Posted on August 14, 2012 at 7:54pm

      @ Judeo-

      Usually because those very same laws make excemptions for certain activites such as but not limited to PI’s doing survailance, businesses conducting loss prevention survailance (not every state requires them to post that cameras are in use, most do to prevent the theft outright), schools for security (same rules as businesses usually) and for law enforcement. Your home follows same rules in most states also, record what you want, just not in the bath room.

      Heres the difference: mic’s and cameras on the cop are a good thing for serveral reasons. Not the least of which is everyone, including the cop, tend to act nicer when they know they are on candid camera. Most cops that are fired or charged for their on duty actions are caught on their own dash cams. Also many charges leveled at officers are bogus and proven so by the dash cams/body mics. Seen both sides of it occur. Cops with dash cams/body mics keep the cops and citizen honest. And since they are paid for by tax dollars and authorized by your city council, you, as a voting citizen approved it.

      The problem with many of the copwatch type set ups is that they have a tendency to interfere intentionally. Many physically. Film from afar, not 3 feet.

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    • supermansdad
      Posted on August 14, 2012 at 7:59pm

      Also, certain people (MIL-RADIAN) forget that what happened in post WWII Italy was still murder. We are a nation of laws, not vigilantism.

      Even to execute your most hated enemy without trial is murder.

      But Occupy/Paulians/NAZIs/evolutionists forget that.

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    • richard40
      Posted on August 15, 2012 at 2:03pm

      The Mussolini bit sounds a bit overblown, but I do agree that the law should be changed, so recording of any gov official, including police, while that gov official is performing official duties, should be allowed, even if covert and no notification. These guys work for us, and should have no right to hide their actions whenever they interact with the public. That does not mean we should be allowed to purposely prevoke them or interfere with those duties, but merely recording them is neither provokation or interference, and should be allowed, even if covert.

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    • mugshotoflife
      Posted on August 15, 2012 at 10:08pm

      Police departments are staffed by people from the public. There is no absolute way to know if the person who is hired as a law enforcement officer is a criminal. All we can go by is to insure that the applicant has never been convicted of a serious crime. Smart or lucky criminals can pass that test. Would Mr Mueller have been indicted if he secretly recorded Drew Peterson confessing to killing his wives?

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  • glocker
    Posted on August 14, 2012 at 5:17am

    Time for NH state reps to show some integrity for Adam and for everyone.

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    • Detroit paperboy
      Posted on August 14, 2012 at 5:40am

      We all get recorded each and every day without our permission……I feel like I woke up in a police state………I was thinking this story came out of Russia,,,,,,

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    • Mil-Dot
      Posted on August 14, 2012 at 2:52pm

      When a govt thinks that it is perfectly fine to surveil us, but it is completely taboo for us to film them in action, it is time to replace that govt structure.

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  • JesterJay
    Posted on August 14, 2012 at 4:23am

    A must watch if you are a gun owner.
    http://youtu.be/uqH7DS-CLrY

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  • JesterJay
    Posted on August 14, 2012 at 4:01am

    You are always alowed to video the police in a public area (as long as you do not interfere. Even if you think you should step in, dont the video will be better in the end.), if they dont wished to be on film the officer needs to leave the public area. Cops will say you are in violation of wire tapping laws. Not ture the law does not aply if there is no reasonable expectation of privicy, and in some states Arizona is one the law does not apply at all, you can be recorded (video or audio) without knowledge.

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    • supermansdad
      Posted on August 14, 2012 at 8:18pm

      Not always true. Even in public some states do prohibit public filming, and usually if the person in question asks not to be filmed you can not do so, even in public. Reason being is that while it’s public and you are free to be there and free to film they too have the right to be there.

      But as you said, usually legal to film from afar. Just don’t interfere. Tapes speak volumes in court both for and against the citizen/officer. Just be sure to release the full and unedited tape.

      Usually these copwatch.thug shows/websites edit the film down to meet their needs. Happens all the time. MSM even does it on police videos and even military gun-camera footage. Remember the AH-64 pilot that they blasted for shooting the “un-armed farmers” in their fields? Turned out when they played the full tape they had just planted mortars rounds and mortar tubes in the field. Similar with most copwatch tapes. It’s also similar to sports where the ref/ump only catches the second hit. Many times the first hit is recorded on the police dash cam but not the copwatch cam.

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  • JesterJay
    Posted on August 14, 2012 at 3:53am

    This is a very real problem with “Law Enforcment”. Bad cops are every where and in every town, Speak out in your community that you will not allow 1 bad cop on your police force. There are many men and women who do this job prodly one crooked cop makes all the good one look bad. Time for the police state to end in America, speak out about the “blue shield”, an unwritten code that states if a cop “rats” on another cop he will be punished by fellow officers. Officers are never fired just allowed to retire (collect pention from tax payers), the officer will most likely just be moved to another town where the double dip their pention and salary. If you did this at your job what do you think would happen to you? Watch the watchmen.

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    • supermansdad
      Posted on August 14, 2012 at 9:28pm

      Again, more myth than reality. While certain departments certainly have a reputation for a blue wall what you likely don’t know is that most cops hate a crooked cop and once there is evidence that said individual is crooked they are typically shunned and outcast.

      Whats strange is that you think this is strange? Realize why cops have a blue wall of silence. I have to know that the officer I‘m with has my back when my life is on the line and it’s the little things that count. I don’t want him to lie for me, nor will I lie for him/her, nor will I ask or allow them to do either. But historically all fraternal organizations have similar unwritten codes. Both fire fighers and military do also. During my Army days people would routinely cover for another soldier’s minor foul up to keep them out of trouble but if the really skrewed the pooch they were done for.

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  • FREEDOMoverFEAR
    Posted on August 14, 2012 at 3:45am

    I love cops they protect me. If someone tried to murder in in the next few seconds I could call the cops and they’d be in a matter of minutes. Mmmm doesn’t make you feel warm and fuzzy inside?

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    • Mil-Dot
      Posted on August 14, 2012 at 8:44am

      The cops have no duty to protect you. You are wrong. If somebody tried to get you in the next few seconds you would be a statistic. The cops would hose off the floor where you were cut up, take a few pictures, and then they would leave. If you rely on them to protect you, good luck with that. I will take care of myself thanks.

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    • RavenGlenn
      Posted on August 14, 2012 at 9:05am

      You missed the joke Mil. He plainly said that if someone tried to murder him in the next few SECONDS that they police would be there in MINUTES. So he said the exact same thing you did.

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    • ElPzee
      Posted on August 14, 2012 at 12:04pm

      Correction!!! Cops job is to file a report once your murdered.

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    • Mil-Dot
      Posted on August 14, 2012 at 2:54pm

      Yeah, you got me Freedom. I missed it. I was too eager to pounce. Nice work brother.

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    • supermansdad
      Posted on August 14, 2012 at 8:20pm

      …I believe you guys missed the point of Freedom’s post.

      Sarcasm.

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  • Lordcsmith
    Posted on August 14, 2012 at 3:27am

    I’m not defending the actions of any one in this particular article but it is illegal to videotape on a school campus. Not because of the cop but because of the laws regarding capturing the image of minors. Sounds dumb but it does exist and the school has the right to go after the video to protect their interests. If it had been a video of kids performing some explicit act and it ended up on the internet the school could get reamed by the parents. That’s why they have laws regarding it. It is however not illegal to record a cop. Oh, and 30 year-old-dude worried about high school kids: it’s spelled Principal. You might want to check grammar and spelling before you tag your organization’s name to a video. It makes you look dumb.

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    • TrueLiberal
      Posted on August 14, 2012 at 7:50am

      @Lord, you are just wrong. The Supreme court has ruled in this area, NYT v. Sullivan, there can be no expectation of privacy in a public place. Unless this is a private school this man is well within the law to record anything within public view, including cops, including minors, including cops beating up minors in a public school. There may be a law, but it would be an unconstitutional one. No chance any video conviction holds up on appeal, No higher court will let it stand. Recording phone conversations? Perhaps.

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    • brainpimp
      Posted on August 14, 2012 at 9:41am

      He was not recording minors, he was recording school administrators the police and himself.

      Your entire defense is moot.

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    • ERP
      Posted on August 14, 2012 at 10:16am

      @Lordcsmith

      Might want to arm yourself with facts before you comment here.

      Thank you @TrueLiberal and @BrainPimp for injecting some clarity and facts here.

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    • Mil-Dot
      Posted on August 14, 2012 at 2:56pm

      Can you tell me why it would be wrong to capture the image of a minor? Why exactly is that? Whom will it harm? Or, is it that they don’t want to be filmed while actively participating in the brainwashing of large groups of kids? Which is it ?

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    • Mil-Dot
      Posted on August 14, 2012 at 2:58pm

      Nice work guys. Keep them honest.

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    • supermansdad
      Posted on August 14, 2012 at 9:33pm

      Again, only half truths.

      Any of you have family that work in the skrewl system? The HIPA rules these days trump everything. I disagree with this but as it stand its the way. As far as most skrewl systems go it’s a HIPA violation to video tape or take pictures of the kids.

      ****ducking out of the way****

      don’t shoot the messenger, I don’t agree with the overreach of HIPA either.

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  • Atrocities
    Posted on August 14, 2012 at 2:47am

    I think this can be summed up in two words. SHUT UP!. They want this guy to SHUT UP. In order to make him understand that he should just SHUT UP, they jail him on bogus “you can’t video tape us” charges. If our political officials fear being video taped, and feel the need to make such things illegal, then perhaps they should remember, that they work for us. We have every right to record everything they do while performing the duties for which they have been hired or elected for. After all, the rest of us must endure being recorded pretty much 24 seven now. From red light camera’s to “spy” drones flying over head. Politicians say we should worry about being recorded unless we have something to hide. Hum, I wonder what that same logic says about them when they pass laws making it illegal to record them and put people in jail for doing it???? Think about it.

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  • Paul
    Posted on August 14, 2012 at 2:04am

    I keep saying, never trust a cop (most) and they keep proving me right….

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    • THX-1138
      Posted on August 14, 2012 at 1:38pm

      And the 95% that tow the line, do their jobs and never make the news?

      People are so dumb…

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    • Paul
      Posted on August 14, 2012 at 9:53pm

      You have NO idea who your talking to, get informed and involved and come back…

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  • Hedge685
    Posted on August 14, 2012 at 1:49am

    Shout out to the ACLU…these are the civil liberties that you should be protecting. Pull your heads out of your collective behinds and read the Constitution and its amendments. Put the creche cases aside for a minute and help protect some of the core liberties we will mourn once they are lost.

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  • LameLiberals
    Posted on August 14, 2012 at 1:38am

    How many so-called conservatives are going to WRAP THE FLAG around what this jack boot thug of a cop did?

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    • richard40
      Posted on August 15, 2012 at 2:05pm

      Regular conservatives might. Tea Party conservatives generally will not, because we beleive in civil liberties, and do not blindly trust gov, even cops.

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  • Commonsensical
    Posted on August 14, 2012 at 1:15am

    An ON-DUTY police officer, or public official has absolutely ZERO reasonable expectation of privacy. EVERYTHING an official or cop does while on duty is in the public domain, and ethically subject to recording, with or without the official’s consent!

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  • grayling646
    Posted on August 14, 2012 at 12:49am

    There’s no way our elected thugs are gonna be able to prevent recording cops much longer when so many people are recording them. Kudos to copblock.

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  • Mr.Fitnah
    Posted on August 14, 2012 at 12:34am

    Cops are pretty much Dbags anymore.

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    • ModerationIsBest
      Posted on August 14, 2012 at 1:33am

      Honorable cops are worthy of our respect and gratitude for the responsibility they have taken to uphold our laws and keep us safe.

      We all need to realize that cops are also people as well, and are prone to bad mistakes. That doesn‘t mean we overlook their mistakes and don’t prosecute them, just keep that in mind when talking to a cop for whatever reason.

      All that being said, I think all cops should be able to be video taped while on duty.

      Just like the dash cams are supposed to keep both the cop and the citizen safe, having citizens video tape altercations provide the same benefit.

      There are too many stories to count of the dash cam “malfunctioning” or the tape “not being visible” when the cop is being accused of something.

      Any cop that isn‘t comfortable being video taped when they don’t have control over the tape should be heavily questioned as to their reasoning.

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    • rookorami
      Posted on August 14, 2012 at 1:45am

      Just like everyone else there are good and bad. And ye please video tape them. It keeps everyone honest. Just be careful when recording phone conversations and know the laws that apply.

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    • LameLiberals
      Posted on August 14, 2012 at 4:55am

      Most of them are dirtbags.

      Their jobs should be contracted out so taxpayers do not have to pay their retirements and can fire the company at will if too many of their members get out of hand. Fox News just had an weekend show about police in a bankrupt California town complaining they have to give up $80,000 a year plus medical for life at age 50. I hope their contracts are GUTTED by bankrupcy courts and their jobs contracted out.

      Ditto for fireman. They are even easier to contract out. Many towns/cities are going back to volunteer force since 99% of the time there are not fires. Let PRIVATE ambulances handle all the “injured person” calls like they did in the past. The fire department does not need to show up unless there is a fire.

      If a city CONTRACTS it fire dept out, they can put them on-call and they go work their regular jobs and will be called IF there is a fire. Or, a contracted fire department might have its fire department mowing parks, painting public buildings and doing any number of public jobs when they are not fighting a fire instead of sitting on their axx. Not only does the contractor gets it money out of them, taxpayer are not stuck with their pay and pensions. YIPPEE.

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    • hidden_lion
      Posted on August 14, 2012 at 11:30am

      Moderation-
      Cops do not keep you safe. they are there to investigate and seize people for punishment after the fact, and to earn revenue for the cities they work for. Only common sense and personal responsibility can keep you safe.

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  • Detroit paperboy
    Posted on August 14, 2012 at 12:18am

    Is it also illegal to film 350pound female gorillas buying a months worth of twinkies and fudge pies with food stamps ??? They just don’t want us to see them destroying our nation, even when it’s right in front of our eyes…….

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  • phantom_echo
    Posted on August 14, 2012 at 12:03am

    To those claiming that [INSERT USERNAME HERE] is a [OBAMA/ROMNEY/FSM] Supporter and that therefore their opinions don’t matter, I have to say… are you truly that Inane? That pedantic? Does the imperfect character of a person invalidate all they have to say? If you think so, then why are you speaking, as you are imperfect and thus your OWN opinions are meaningless as well…

    I would gladly hear what my worst enemies have to say, and consider their opinions… for at the very least then I shall understand their motivations, their Daring and their Delusions. To ignore them, or use labels when response is called for, is to prove their point of view through delusion and negligence.

    Consider it.

    I am not a Republicrat nor a paulbot, nor a Conservative, nor a liberal, nor a progressive. Labels are a convenient way to avoid details. First judgements must in the eye and mind of any intelligent person give way to experience and discourse… blind micro-tribal nonsense Labels through nothing into relief.

    Phantom_Echo {h+}

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    • rookorami
      Posted on August 14, 2012 at 12:30am

      I agree. We need to move beyond labels, parties, and the sort. Too often do we jump on bandwagons and here comes the group think. I will never not listen to what the another person or group has to say. How can you properly respond or come to an understanding with out listening and discussion. We also need to go beyond the name calling and deal with issues.

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    • Steelheadisadouche
      Posted on August 14, 2012 at 12:32am

      Holy cow, what a steamy pile.

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    • grayling646
      Posted on August 14, 2012 at 12:52am

      Hey phantom, not only are you insulting, you’re boring. Short comments. That’s all people want. So you’re gonna have to shorten your insults.

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  • Chancellor
    Posted on August 13, 2012 at 11:44pm

    Things like “Justice” and “Fairness” are NOT natural forces in the Universe.

    They are artificial constructs of Sentient Beings. As such they need to be

    Applied with ruthless intent on all with Equal Ferocity or they are meaningless!

    What we have now, with pick and choose justice is a stepping stone to mass

    Murder under the guise of world order, with maximum greed for the few and

    Equal nothingness for all!

    So my answer is……..Why is it ok for them to Drone, Stoplight camera, and use listening devices on us.

    But turn the tables and you go to jail??? I would be on the nightly news as the next “Crazy person”
    for I would get “Even”

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    • ashestoashes
      Posted on August 14, 2012 at 12:47am

      That is precisely what I was thinking..They are listening in to our telephone conversations all the time and it is annoying..When you hear your voice echoeing in the phone.they listening in..when you hear clicks..you are being recorded..This has become a police state since 9/11..That was the intended purpose of 9/11. ongoing war and.to bring about the New World Order..which the Communists/Zionists have been about for some time now..In a post from Colt 1860..he said that an attorney from Salt Lake City obtained records throught the Freedom of Information Act that Eric Holder..I believe the Attorney General for the Clinton Administration gave orders to the FBI to furnish Tim McVeigh and Terry Nichols with explosives for the Oklahoma City Bombing..The Clinton Administration was behind Waco and Ruby Ridge also all for the purpose of causing an uprising from Evangelical Christians and Militias so that the Justice Dept could crush them..Here is the link to read his posts.he provides urls
      http://www.theblaze.com/stories/wikileaks-americans-being-monitored-by-secret-surveillance-system-trapwire/

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  • phantom_echo
    Posted on August 13, 2012 at 11:20pm

    All these comments are such fertile ground.

    Firstly: Absolutely Film and Record away. There should be no legal statute in the way where a paid member of law enforcement is concerned in the line of duty. Abuse by law enforcement is the worst kind.

    Secondly: Multimedia technologies are not the enemy, ignorance, fear, and agendas are. For many years the left AND the right have been saying ‘if you don’t have anything to hide, you have nothing to fear’… Imagine that, what’s good for the goose, apparently is good for the porcine as well.

    Thirdly and MOST importantly: What is lawful is not always moral, and what is moral, is not always lawful. IE: A law demanding the death of all people with red hair and green eyes might be passed (hypothetically), but it would not be morally right. Obeying such a mandate would be perfectly legal, just not morally right.

    In my opinion:

    I’d advise teams filming such events to use an Eye-fi card or similar technology, and a remote system so that copies can be sent straight to an online account. Seizure of the camera/phone/ipod/etc… will mean nothing if the footage is already online and multiplied.

    I am curious as to whether people on the blaze will support the bravery and just actions of this young man or condemn him. It would be rather difficult to argue that what he did was ‘wrong’, but it may not be ‘legal’.

    Lastly: Justice is *NOT* a legal principal, it is a moral principal. Extremist

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    • trinklefinder
      Posted on August 13, 2012 at 11:29pm

      i was reading this and wondering, why is it illegal to record someone without their knowledge because if youre on the up and up then you will have nothing to fear.

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    • rookorami
      Posted on August 13, 2012 at 11:38pm

      It is not illegal to film a police officer. That much is certain. What is illegal is recording a conversation with anyone and not having their consent. I commend that he did not delete the video. I do not condone his recording of the conversation later on. If its not illegal to film it then there is no reason to record a conversation saying so.

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    • ashestoashes
      Posted on August 14, 2012 at 12:50am

      I don’t know about the laws in his state..but my understanding is that there is nothing illegal about recording..It just can’t be used in a court of law..

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    • rookorami
      Posted on August 14, 2012 at 1:43am

      In NH it is illegal to record a conversation without both parties consent. Yes it does make a difference state to state. There are also federal wiretap laws as well. For instance in my state you only need one persons consent. I did look this up to be sure.

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  • KidCharlemagne
    Posted on August 13, 2012 at 11:15pm

    This has some similarities to the case of Michael Allison from Illinois:

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    Illinois Man Faces 75 Years in Jail for Filming Police
    Posted on September 1, 2011 at 3:53pm by Buck Sexton
    http://www.theblaze.com/stories/illinois-man-faces-75-years-in-jail-for-filming-police/

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  • Smokey_Bojangles
    Posted on August 13, 2012 at 11:11pm

    That is that police state you guys wanted.Happy Now?

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  • rdietz7
    Posted on August 13, 2012 at 11:06pm

    Just because the kid got taken down does not mean the officer used excessive force. This article mentions that the 17 year old ‘child’ did resist arrest and was suspended for this insubordination. If police don’t maintain a force in public schools the violence could be even more disastrous.

    This kid must have started his own club. Did he make that hat? The symbol on the front is a 50′s retro logo depicting a policeman. Is he aiming at irony in choosing this design? If so, are the people responsible for the hat, website and T-shirt designs aware that the children of 2012 in no way represent students from the 50′s.

    This guy looks like he is 30!

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    • whitjake
      Posted on August 14, 2012 at 4:49am

      I am from Manchester N.H. and,yes,I did see the altercation on video and,yes,there was excessive force used. Our police force try to do their best but sometimes,like all police,there are some that should no longer be police officers. Like all careers,you will find some bad apples. In police work,there are more because of their jurisdiction(area of authority) and will abuse that right.

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    • hidden_lion
      Posted on August 14, 2012 at 11:38am

      why are there School police? It wasn’t a real cop, it was a school paid ‘security’ guard. It was the kid‘s sister’s purse he was messing with. There is no need for a school cop to get physical unless the kid was getting physical.

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  • olddog
    Posted on August 13, 2012 at 11:00pm

    The police and the government work for us, not the other way around. The so called judge that made the ruling is the one that should be behind bars…. More and more government is taking our freedoms away..Like the guy in Oregon that got 3 months in jail for capturing rain water on His property… Is our govrnment out of control or not? You tell me???

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    • QuincySmith
      Posted on August 13, 2012 at 11:20pm

      Dog;

      I agree that the gov’t is out of control, however, it is illegal to record a telephone conversation without proper acknowledgement and approval. If the report is accurate, it sounds as though school cop used excessive force. It is not illegal to video record activities in public locations – i.e. public schools.

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    • woodyl1011fl
      Posted on August 13, 2012 at 11:28pm

      Oregon, Washington and California three states that have descended into madness and are destroying themselves all three are ruled by eco -tyrants as is Washington DC. All three are also ruled by democrats.

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  • SolitudeBliss
    Posted on August 13, 2012 at 10:53pm

    You do not want brutality from the State to go unchecked but you also do not want people’s freedoms to be exterminated by the multimedia society we live in. If we must be cautious of every word we mutter in public in fear that someone may be filming we may as well call ourselves the USSA. I’d rather police get away with an abuse here and there (although it is WRONG WRONG WRONG) than sacrifice the right to speak my mind how and where I wish.

    GIVE ME LIBERTY OR GIVE ME DEATH

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    • TrueLiberal
      Posted on August 14, 2012 at 8:15am

      @Bliss, you are an idiot. Did you actually just say you would accept some degree of corruption and abuse for a little security?

      Those who would give up Essential Liberty to purchase a little Temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety. ~Benjamin Franklin, 1775

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    • ElPzee
      Posted on August 14, 2012 at 12:08pm

      Ridiculous. Those who actually believe they are safe because “police protect” them are intellectually challenged.

      A a Human being YOU PROTECT YOURSELF, and should expect no-one else to do that for you.

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  • Darmok and Jalad at Tanagra
    Posted on August 13, 2012 at 10:39pm

    Look, they live in the LIVE FREE OR DIE State. I always took that as a threat, now, the Liberal Northwest is crying foul with a police state and the Govt. stomping on a persons rights. Wow, it‘s what they wanted but don’t want. I guess THEY want their rights, but want to ensure they infringe on everyone’s elses rights. So, let me have mine, but you can’t have yours, it’s mine.

    One word comes to mind…..Karma.

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  • justangry
    Posted on August 13, 2012 at 10:32pm

    They can feel us up, listen to our phone calls, read our online correspondence, film us anywhere they want, shoot us up with radiation to see us naked, fly drones over our heads and suppress the freedom of the press. But Romney and Ryan will fix it. I take that back, they support all that crap too.

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    • KidCharlemagne
      Posted on August 13, 2012 at 10:39pm

      At least they didn’t shoot his dog in front of his kids too like we see all too often these days…

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    • JUSTANOTHEROPINION
      Posted on August 13, 2012 at 10:43pm

      @JUSTANGRY=Obama supporter. Don’t lend credence by acknowledging the comment.

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    • woodyee
      Posted on August 13, 2012 at 10:52pm

      @ Kidcharlemagne

      just read your response c/o Syrian rebels (Boston globe). Thanks. And yes, it’s a terrible thing but we have no choice in Nov. except Romney, or Obammy, or a third party (throw-away) vote.

      PS – as an aside, did you pick your name c/o Steeley Dan?

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    • acidovorax
      Posted on August 13, 2012 at 10:54pm

      “@JUSTANGRY=Obama supporter. Don’t lend credence by acknowledging the comment.”

      What did he say that was incorrect?

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    • KidCharlemagne
      Posted on August 13, 2012 at 11:11pm

      woodyee
      Posted on August 13, 2012 at 10:52pm
      PS – as an aside, did you pick your name c/o Steeley Dan?
      ================

      You know it! :)

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    • justangry
      Posted on August 13, 2012 at 11:15pm

      @Justanotheropinion, You’re mistaken.

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    • ashestoashes
      Posted on August 14, 2012 at 12:57am

      @JustAnotheropinion..Just Angry is not an Obama supporter..It’s just that he is not a fool..He does his homework unlike most on here..You must enjoy being listened to and having all of your rights taken away..Romney supported all of that Police State bull.. He supported NDAA..SOPA..and the Patriot Act..He supports big government..has supported gay marriage..abortion..gun control and is financed by the same banksters and doesn’t think that the un Federal Reserve needs auditing..So really..who’s the Obama supporter? Are you smart enough to figure it out?

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    • ashestoashes
      Posted on August 14, 2012 at 1:07am

      Here..I’ll make it really easy for you..Here is Romney and Obama both speaking..
      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yX_RVhL6LCw&feature=player_embedded

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    • Norm D. Plume
      Posted on August 14, 2012 at 2:57am

      Simply put:

      A vote for Romney is a vote for Obama.

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    • EqualJustice
      Posted on August 14, 2012 at 8:42am

      SIMPLE MINDED comment. Vote for ROMNEY of you want the dictator GONE!

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    • Individualism
      Posted on August 14, 2012 at 10:42am

      don’t you just love those ex military peaceful christian skinhead cops? don’t worry they will defend us from the Muslims and protest our freedom. *sarc*

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