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AP: Abortion Showdown Could Cost Indiana $4.3 billion

INDIANAPOLIS (AP) — A looming showdown over Indiana’s new law that cuts funding for the Planned Parenthood organization may test how far Republican-led states are willing to go in pressing their tough new anti-abortion agendas.

The stakes are high. The future of health care for more than 1 million poor and elderly Indiana residents hangs in the balance.

Indiana became the first state this year to cut off all government funds to Planned Parenthood, fulfilling conservatives’ goal of financially weakening organizations that provide abortions. Other conservative states have considered such action in recent years but backed away under the threat of loss of all federal money for their Medicaid programs.

The willingness of Indiana, led by a Republican governor and GOP-controlled Legislature, to challenge the federal government and risk a huge financial penalty could take the issue into uncharted legal and political territory. Conservative leaders in other states will be watching the confrontation as they plan their own action on abortion and other social issues.

“I think this is an instance in which a state is really trying to overturn national policy and in so doing is likely to forego federal funding,” said Christopher Arterton, professor of political management at George Washington University and an expert on federal-state issues.

Is Indiana willing to risk $4.3 billion in Medicaid money to strike a blow for the right-to-life movement? Some conservative members of Republican-controlled legislatures argue it’s time for states to risk serious penalties to defend their principles and throw off federal mandates. And the Medicaid program, with its rising costs and strict rules, has been a particular target of ire.

Is the Obama administration actually willing to leave low-income families without health care to punish a defiant state?

“Like any game of chicken, it’s about who blinks first,” said Ed Haislmaier, senior research fellow at the Heritage Foundation’s Center for Health Policy, a conservative think-tank.

Planned Parenthood has filed suit to challenge Indiana’s law, so the courts could have a say in how the dispute is resolved.

The Obama administration directed Indiana this week to drop its ban on Planned Parenthood, which the legislature passed this spring after becoming considerably more Republican and conservative in last fall’s midterm election. The Department of Health and Human Services said the state cannot legally pick and choose which agencies provide health care to people covered by the federal-state program. The warning letter cited a federal statute that directs the withholding of all Medicaid funding from a state if it violates federal law.

White House spokesman Jay Carney said this week that 19 states have gotten into disputes with the Obama administration over health care funding, and all amended their plans to keep their money. He said he expects Indiana to do the same.

Arizona reversed course last year after HHS threatened to withhold money because the state had frozen its children’s health program. Some Republican lawmakers in Texas also proposed dropping out of the Medicaid program this year but backed away because of the financial impact.

Republican lawmakers in Indiana are refusing to back down.

“Indiana’s on solid legal ground,” said state Sen. Scott Schneider, an Indianapolis Republican who sponsored the measure to cut off Planned Parenthood. “There’s no reason for us to change course at this time.”

Indiana conservatives are clearly hoping the administration will blink if it comes to cutting off health insurance for poor people. The money pays for all kinds of routine health care.

The White House and HHS “have made the decision they are willing to drive those stakes that much higher at the risk of poor people’s health,” said Sue Swayze, legislative director of Indiana Right to Life, which is supporting the Indiana law.

Carrying out the threat could be difficult, Haislmaier said.

“From a political standpoint it is interesting whether the Obama administration has really thought through the implications,” he said.

Possible compromises or half-measures could settle the matter.

Indiana Gov. Mitch Daniels, who did not push for the Planned Parenthood law, could ask state lawmakers to repeal it. The federal court in Indianapolis that is hearing Planned Parenthood’s legal challenge could block the law from going into effect, buying time for changes.

The federal Medicaid statute also gives HHS Secretary Kathleen Sebelius latitude to withhold only a portion of Indiana’s Medicaid dollars, cushioning the impact.

Senate Appropriations Chairman Sen. Luke Kenley, a Republican who supported the Planned Parenthood ban, said the state should seek some deal to keep people from losing their coverage.

“If the state can’t reach an agreement with the federal government, then the state should back off in the face of losing all its Medicaid funding,” he said.

Kansas state lawmakers approved a budget earlier this month that restricts funding for Planned Parenthood. North Carolina lawmakers also are expected to block funds for the group.

HHS issued a warning letter to all 50 states this week, effectively firing a “shot across the bow” of others considering similar actions, said Betty Cockrum, president of Planned Parenthood of Indiana.

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Associated Press writer Deanna Martin contributed to this report.

Comments (216)

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  • NEBRASKATHEREALLIFE
    Posted on June 5, 2011 at 7:22pm

    Its amazing how they can be so against the death penalty for a monster, but a child that has done nothing to deserve death is fully endorsed and paid for. Talk about evil hypocrisy.

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    • the hawk
      Posted on June 5, 2011 at 7:40pm

      YEAH ! Maybe Farrakhan is right ? I MEAN CORRECT !

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  • the hawk
    Posted on June 5, 2011 at 7:19pm

    HOW ABOUT TO HAVE AN ABORTION YOU HAVE TO HAVE A HISTORECTOMY !
    ( NO babies FOR YOU EVER ! )

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  • Amy
    Posted on June 5, 2011 at 7:14pm

    HHS Secretary has way too much discretionary power. That position was given even more power through Obamacare.

    Then Illinois State Senator Obama stood behind few votes, usually voting present. On the issue of reducing abortion procedures, specifically late term abortions, he voted against the Illinois bill stating he did not agree that physicians should be put into the position to allow an infant to survive after that physician performed a late term abortion. He felt it would leave the physician at risk of a law suit to save the infant. Thus, the practice of late term abortions in Illinois continued, giving physicians a ‘break.’

    That, at least was his given reason for voting No to restriction Illinois late term abortion.

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  • Callie369
    Posted on June 5, 2011 at 6:56pm

    Non-sequitur
    Posted on June 5, 2011 at 6:38pm
    Because it provides incredibly valuable health services to poor people? Mammograms, pap smears, cervical cancer vaccination, contraceptives, counseling etc etc.

    This argument was tried previously and it was proven that P.P. performed almost NONE of these procedures. Poor people actually got the procedures through Medicaid.

    Planned Parenthood (a tax-exempt organization!) has $951 million in total assets! When they argue that they’re working hard to reduce the frequency of abortion, the fact remains that their financial livelihood is built on abortion. Planned Parenthood, then, is just like the big tobacco companies. Does anyone really believe that tobacco companies want people to stop smoking? Does anyone really believe that Planned Parenthood wants people to stop having abortions? Follow the money.

    Why would they have any scruples about accepting donations for explicitly racist purposes so long as the money keeps coming in?

    Why would they prosecute the statutory rapists who are sending them business?

    Why would they submit to parental notification laws when parents might try and prevent their teenage daughter from having an abortion?

    Why would they want women to know that there is a potential connection between breast cancer and abortion?

    For the answers, go to http://www.abort73.com/abortion/abortion_for_profit/

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  • NEBRASKATHEREALLIFE
    Posted on June 5, 2011 at 6:50pm

    Wow moss that was one uninformative post you have there. Im pretty sure they will find a good home that will keep them out of that lifestyle. I do believe the mother should be fixed after the first crack baby though.

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  • I Stand With Israel
    Posted on June 5, 2011 at 6:49pm

    We have been fighting for years now to make it so that people who did not think that murdering a child was a right would have to have their taxes going to Planned Parenting and other such places, but I cannot remember the last time I heard anyone talk about why all of these people aren’t practicing safe sex. Is that not done anymore? I find it hard to believe that every woman who wants an abortion was raped. Is it easier to have an bortion than to take some precaution? I don’t think it would be, so what is going on? Has the devil completely demoralized this country to the point that we can’t see the harm in taking the life from a baby? When we took God out of the schools that our children were in, what did we think was going to come in to take His place? We need to redo some things, and do it quickly.

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  • Crankycanard
    Posted on June 5, 2011 at 6:48pm

    When the people of this nation think we should have excuses to kill 1 out of every 4 conceptions I think the game is over. Planned Parenthood has as despicable a history as the democrat party.

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  • mossbrain
    Posted on June 5, 2011 at 6:45pm

    Medicaid is a sham anyways, abolish it. All it does is keep alive the born losers of society, the weakest links, the genetically inferior. They should be allowed to die, thus improving the gene pool.

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    • Non-sequitur
      Posted on June 5, 2011 at 6:56pm

      Yep, let’s do this eugenics thing! Why wait for them to die off? Wouldn’t it be much more humane to gather the unwanted in camps first, to concentrate them and not have them among the regular populace?

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    • JJBlazeReader
      Posted on June 5, 2011 at 7:03pm

      ..

      Mossbrain wrote:

      “…is keep alive the born losers of society, the weakest links, the genetically inferior. They should be allowed to die, thus improving the gene pool.”

      I see you agree with Margaret Sanger, the founder of Planned Parenthood and the rest of the progressives.

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    • Oldtexan in support of Israel
      Posted on June 5, 2011 at 8:07pm

      Yep, let’s do this eugenics thing!- look up who started PP and why and you will see the eugenics thing!

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    • The Gooch
      Posted on June 5, 2011 at 9:30pm

      “Sigh”… there’s a stark difference between eugenics and pulling back on enabling behavior. Simple economics dictates that if you subsidize someone or something, you will get more of them or it. When the hell did I sign up to be my brother’s keeper if he chooses to check out of society, give up on himself and live like a hog? This busy body mentality brings to mind that old chestnut that the road to hell is paved with good intentions. No one wants to hear that… but why? As Dennis Miller puts it, “I’m all for helping the helpless, not the clueless.” I believe some of you are confused as to the difference between eugenics vs. euthanasia. Withholding Medicaid could only be deemed even that in the most twisted of minds.

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  • momprayn
    Posted on June 5, 2011 at 6:44pm

    YAY !!! I agree – it’s time to take any “hits”/penalties/whatever in order to do the right thing. These are the consequences of letting this stuff take over over the decades. We let it go for too long – should have fought it when Roe v. Wade was being argued. It can be proven to be unconstitutional.
    Now we’re stuck with the harsh difficulties of trying to get rid of all the corruption/liberalism that has about taken us over & deeply entrenched. But it’s better late than never.
    I used to be a counselor at a pregnancy crisis clinic. Planned Parenthood is a very evil, money-making, selfish business that prey on women’s emotions, human nature, weakness, etc. The blacks should be outraged since it was started by the racist Margaret Sanger in order to get rid of unwanted ethnic groups. Alveda King, niece to MLK, is an activist against them (& one of Glenn’s fans). They‘ve twisted it all to say they’re just trying to help these poor women. All lies. Not reported is all the mental, physical, emotional, spiritual turmoil women go through after and….they STILL die from these. As for numbers, I think it’s more like 50 million. Please support these states & whoever else./trying to fight this evil – we need to purge them from our nation & especially not have taxpayers have to pay for them!!!

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    • Non-sequitur
      Posted on June 5, 2011 at 6:54pm

      “Planned Parenthood is a very evil, money-making, selfish business that prey on women’s emotions, human nature, weakness, etc.”

      “The blacks should be outraged since it was started by the racist Margaret Sanger in order to get rid of unwanted ethnic groups.”

      Irrelevant.

      “Alveda King, niece to MLK, is an activist against them (& one of Glenn’s fans).”

      Irrelevant.

      “They‘ve twisted it all to say they’re just trying to help these poor women. All lies. Not reported is all the mental, physical, emotional, spiritual turmoil women go through after and….they STILL die from these.”

      “As for numbers, I think it’s more like 50 million.”

      You don’t… get this discussion thing, do you?

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    • Psychosis
      Posted on June 5, 2011 at 7:28pm

      @ non

      irrelevant? says who, you ?

      what makes you the decider about the original intent of the program is irrelevant?

      so, lets put your theory against every left wing program

      yep they are all irrelevant …………………just like you

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  • mossbrain
    Posted on June 5, 2011 at 6:42pm

    I do not believe in abortion. These unplanned crack babies who are not loved by their parents should be allowed to be born so that they may grow up into gangsters and criminals and then be incarcerated for most of their adult lives. Many jobs in the law enforcement and prison fields will be created thus helping the economy.

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    • Sparky101
      Posted on June 5, 2011 at 9:38pm

      So you are saying that if we get rid of crack, we won’t have crack-head babies?

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  • dontbotherme
    Posted on June 5, 2011 at 6:38pm

    The Federal Government & Obama are so very concerned about Planned Parenthood & funding the killing of millions of innocent babies that they are willing to take away funding for medicaid which will hurt many people. I say, Indiana, go for it. Tell the Feds to “stick their money where the sun don’t shine”.

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  • Jenny Lind
    Posted on June 5, 2011 at 6:37pm

    I have a crazy idea- let’s let the people who want abortions pay for them! If guys don’t want to pay child support, they damn sure will find a way. They find a way for their other “hobbies”, right?

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    • betterthantv
      Posted on June 5, 2011 at 6:59pm

      Well now that would just make to much sense.

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    • Chet Hempstead
      Posted on June 5, 2011 at 9:47pm

      Actually people do have to pay for their own abortions. You probably think that’s all Planned Parenthood does because you get all your news from sources that are happy to report on a politician lying and saying that’s all they do, but reluctant to talk about all the people who exposed it as a lie.

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  • betterthantv
    Posted on June 5, 2011 at 6:33pm

    Indiana needs to stand strong. Screw the FEDS and their money. Let it be known who the real culprit is. Quit using my tax money to fund abortions for women who are to stupid to use birth control!

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    • Non-sequitur
      Posted on June 5, 2011 at 6:50pm

      “Quit using my tax money to fund abortions for women who are to stupid to use birth control!”

      Whoops, nice way to put your foot in your mouth because it’s actually ILLEGAL for federal money to go into providing abortions and PP does no such thing.

      Please try and get at least the most basic facts straight before you attempt a discussion please. This is pitiful.

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    • betterthantv
      Posted on June 5, 2011 at 6:56pm

      So what is it you are trying to say. That PP doesn’t provide abortions? Or that the FEDS don’t fund PP? Because both are facts. It seems it is you that is lost?

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    • walkwithme1966
      Posted on June 5, 2011 at 7:14pm

      If you believe that so strongly – stop paying your taxes!! Put your money where your mouth is!! But you won’t do that – none of you anti-abortion people will put yourself on the line by not paying your taxes!!
      All show and no go!!

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    • the hawk
      Posted on June 5, 2011 at 7:34pm

      they steal it before we even get it ! Our employers help them ! for tax breaks !

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    • The Gooch
      Posted on June 5, 2011 at 9:19pm

      Silly N-S:
      The game being played is that states have no restriction. The Hyde Amendment certainly addresses the matter on a federal level, but gaming the system is nothing new when a sacred cow is the issue at hand. The argument then becomes: When is the money doled out to the state considered the state’s to do with as it pleases? Planned Parenthood can keep the lights on just fine without taxpayer money; feel free to give until your heart is content. This whole mind numbing argument then disappears.
      Ol’ PP ought to count itself lucky for having not been shut down for ignorting mandated reporter laws for abuse and neglect. But then that seems to be a recurrent theme with this entity: We don’t have to play be the same rules as the rest of you chumps. Ah, good ol’ leftist nihilism… when your smarter, better, and more enlightened than all the rest, rules are easily ignored. Power to PP!!!

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    • Agentuntomyself
      Posted on June 6, 2011 at 2:42am

      @nonsequiter,
      Oh my gosh! you just got schooled by someguy and gooch, and you are still telling others to check their facts. Have you ever even been inside a planned parenthood? I have. And they are not in the business of helping women live healthier lives. They are in the business of steering scared young girls toward having an abortion. Sickening.

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  • The Gooch
    Posted on June 5, 2011 at 6:27pm

    Ah, one of my favorite sacred cows to kick around. Isn’t it funny how “choice” & healthcare are now entangled in a manner that alleges the collective must pay for the choices of others. You wanna choose to be fat, with all the health concerns that come along with being fat, I still gotta pay for your choice. You wanna use tobacco (or any drug, including alcohol), with all the health risks your choice increases, I get to own your choice. You want to choose to end a pregancy, well, that too is a matter that others must own.
    Funny how choice &/or elective procedures are now “rights” that can’t be challenged by the people paying for them. This ought to stir up the usual suspects (& I count myself among them).
    It has been my experience that providers will always advocate what is in providers’ best interest. That means most clinics (medical & mental health) will suddenly become staunch supporters bleating that choices are really rights & that rights should be paid for (i.e., give me part of the that sweet taxpayer money & I’ll keep enabling folks on the govt. dole).
    And instead of putting their money where their mouths are, abortion proponents will sound the same lame argument that Planned Parenthood isn’t first and foremost an abortion clinic.
    The issue of healthcare continues to define us as a greedy, inflexible collective. I believe the majority believes that no matter how unhealthy & stupid they wanna be, someone else foots the bill. Free lunch.

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    • Non-sequitur
      Posted on June 5, 2011 at 6:48pm

      “And instead of putting their money where their mouths are, abortion proponents will sound the same lame argument that Planned Parenthood isn’t first and foremost an abortion clinic.”

      Nice way to imply that the obvious fact that PP is not an abortion clinic first in foremost is in some way absurd. Only a small fraction of services provided by PP are abortions, and you know that very well. So calling PP “first and foremost an abortion clinic” is so incredibly dishonest and devious that you should be banned from any further discussion on the subject.

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    • the hawk
      Posted on June 5, 2011 at 7:10pm

      WERE tALKING ABOUT KILLING BABIES ! ! ! IDIOT !

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    • sumguyinohio
      Posted on June 5, 2011 at 7:24pm

      @NON-SEQUITUR

      In 2007-2008 Planned Parenthood profited (“excess of revenue over expenses”) $85 million dollars and operated on a $1 billion dollar budget. Let’s start at $85 million in cuts and call it a day genius. How does any private company get to claim a profit when it gets one third of it’s operating budget from the tax payers? The abortions they do profited the non profit organization. Use that profit first to offset the other programs and give the $85 million back to us.

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    • The Gooch
      Posted on June 5, 2011 at 8:50pm

      To N-S:
      Ah, yes, let’s shake statistical sticks at each either. My measuring rod asserts PP was involved in 27.6% of all U.S. abortions in the year 2009. 340 abortions for every adoption referral, 47 abortions for every prenatal care patient. 5,320,095 abortions from 1970 to 2009. This is from the entities OWN statistics.
      You shake your stick at me with a “small fraction” claim… with no numerical value. Then you tell me to shut up and go away. Tell me: Who appears unreasonable in this exchange? Hmmm….
      And at no point do you put forth an argument as to why I must pay for abortions as a taxpayer vs. why you believe that even though you appear to be an advocate for the “choice”, you and your ilk shouldn’t have to own your sacred cow alone.
      I‘ve done my homework and I ain’t lazy. I’m also not cowed by anonymous voices making empty threats and vague assertions. Please, try harder. This is boring so far.

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    • The Gooch
      Posted on June 5, 2011 at 9:06pm

      To the Hawk:
      Yep. Killing babies. I’m against it. However, I alone don’t get to make the rules. All I‘m asserting is that I shouldn’t have to pay for that choice or any other. I work with agencies that are heavily funded by Medicaid. Nothing prompts a circling of the wagons more than the threat of the govt. teat being withheld. People on the inside will suddenly become very pro choice if their slice of the pie is threatened. By the way, I believe your caps lock is stuck.
      I’ve seen this play out when people on Medicaid were going to be made to own their own health: If you’re fat, you were going to have the option to either have Medicaid pay for a wellness program, or be limited in coverage. A similar option was going to be offered to smokers: Join a smoking cessation program, or have limits to your coverage. Funny how I am expected to own my health in buying private insurance, but people who are given coverage have no accountability. Providers killed this because all they had to hear was “coverage would be limted.” Medicaid is HUGE deal for the states. This will get ugly. The point I’m trying to make is: Where the hell do we draw the line?
      Abortion is legal. You & I may not like that, but it’s the law of the land. If it’s a choice, we should NEVER be made to pay for it. I loathe Planned Parenthood, its racist, elitist roots, slimy reps, and weasely ways. No need to take a swipe at me. Sadly, it’s about babies AND money.

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  • Diamond Girl
    Posted on June 5, 2011 at 6:27pm

    Indiana….

    Do NOT back down…at any cost!

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    • discardofevil
      Posted on June 5, 2011 at 8:33pm

      Amen! The liberals have plenty of money they should have a charity event for Baby Killing!

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  • NEBRASKATHEREALLIFE
    Posted on June 5, 2011 at 6:24pm

    NoMercy,

    I agree, how can you put a pricetag on human life. What kind of morals are you teaching the youth if this can still be funded and indorsed. Are you teaching them there is no consequeces or that human life is worth x amount of dollars. Sorry but I value life more than that, especially after adopting my special needs son. I am very passionate about this subject.

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  • Whostolemypig
    Posted on June 5, 2011 at 6:23pm

    Planned Parenthood: Killing Black babies since 1916

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    • TRUTHLADY
      Posted on June 5, 2011 at 10:31pm

      Margaret Sanger who founded planned parenthood did it specifically for this reason. She thought black people to be inferior and encouraged the abortion of black babies. I hope she asked for forgiveness before she died.

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  • jmbogstad
    Posted on June 5, 2011 at 6:18pm

    Abortion has cost more than 30 million lives in the US alone. This is a perfect exAMPLE OF WHY THE fOUNDERS DID NOT WANT THE fEDS TO HAVE THE POWER TO TAX THE PEOPLE DIRECTLY. Once they control the money, they can control everything, and it’s a short walk back to tyrrany from there.

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  • canuck44
    Posted on June 5, 2011 at 6:18pm

    Planned Parenthood is easy to fix…just audit them weekly and charge their Board Members and employees with felony fraud. They have been shifting funds and submitting false billings for years. An audit per day might be entirely appropriate.

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  • grandma7
    Posted on June 5, 2011 at 6:18pm

    Thank the Lord for these brave states!!!!!!!
    Praying for others to follow these righteous leaders!!!

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    • BHAMCONSERVATIVE
      Posted on June 5, 2011 at 6:59pm

      I agree! When we see a state pass a law that makes sense, other states should follow suite. Show Obama and the progressives that WE are the majority. He can’t sue ALL of us.

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    • the hawk
      Posted on June 5, 2011 at 7:25pm

      we WILL GET IT RIGHT ! STAND UP ! STATES RIGHTS !

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    • DaytonConserve
      Posted on June 6, 2011 at 11:45am

      Time to keep our tax dollars at home in our own state where they can do the most good at the least cost. In addition to defunding PP, it is time to defund massive federal government. Just say NO to raising the federal debt limit! Time to stop the addiction cold turkey.

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  • CanadaKen
    Posted on June 5, 2011 at 6:16pm

    More states and people need to stand up and back Indiana against an out of control federal government.

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    • VerySeniorCitizen
      Posted on June 5, 2011 at 6:46pm

      @CANADKEN and GRANDMA7

      The Constitution, Article V1 – also known as the Supremacy Clause.

      Federal Law TRUMPS and and all state laws!

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    • Psychosis
      Posted on June 5, 2011 at 7:22pm

      at senoir

      your understanding of the “ supremacy law ” is flawed

      probably like your understanding of the rest of the constitution and for that matter , social security

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    • Oldtexan in support of Israel
      Posted on June 5, 2011 at 7:58pm

      @VerySeniorCitizen
      That is why we are voting the tyrants out the fed has been out of control for years by the way there is a fed law on the books that forbids using federal money for abortions.

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    • Mil Mom
      Posted on June 6, 2011 at 12:24am

      @VerySeniorCitizen
      That is why we are voting the tyrants out the fed has been out of control for years by the way there is a fed law on the books that forbids using federal money for abortions.
      **************************
      I only ask, WHO AUDITS THE BOOKS OF THESE CLINICS WHICH RECEIVE FEDERAL MONEY AND PROVIDE ABORTION? Can anyonE show me separate bank accounts into which federal money goes, and how they manage to never use that money for anything connected with abortion. Do they have a separate account into which only private funds are put and out of which the expenses related to abortion are paid? JUST WONDERING ALOUD !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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  • nomercy63
    Posted on June 5, 2011 at 6:08pm

    I think abortion has cost more then 4.3 billion how about over 2 million unborn lives??? How about our national self respect for life? How about the mental health of young women who have had this done and live with their secrets and try to justify them? Abortion is absolutely disgusting and any woman that has been there is disgusting!

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    • pugsly
      Posted on June 5, 2011 at 6:29pm

      Wow I sure hope you have never done anything really awful in your life!

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    • Non-sequitur
      Posted on June 5, 2011 at 6:41pm

      How about the mental health of young women who made a bad decision, whose contraceptives failed or who were raped? How about poor people who need basic reproductive health services to lead some semblance of a normal, dignified life?

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    • Dustyluv
      Posted on June 5, 2011 at 7:01pm

      So adding murder to a rape is OK? Abortion is MURDER. Why cant you understand that simple concept???

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    • the hawk
      Posted on June 5, 2011 at 7:28pm

      I ‘VE DONE LOTS OF BAD THINGS IN MY LIFE ! GOD FORGIVE ME !
      BUT i AINT KILLED ANY BABIES !

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  • The_Almighty_Creestof
    Posted on June 5, 2011 at 6:08pm

    I still say that outlawed or not…they will still happen but in unsafe conditions. The money/time would be better spent focusing on raising the morals of our young people today.

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    • pugsly
      Posted on June 5, 2011 at 6:28pm

      Add your comments

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    • Oldtexan in support of Israel
      Posted on June 5, 2011 at 7:42pm

      Hey dummy you have to let them live to teach them anything!

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    • The_Almighty_Creestof
      Posted on June 5, 2011 at 8:30pm

      @Oldtexan in support of Israel (AKA…Mr. Hooked On Phonics) My comment was about raising the morals and acceptance of responsibility of the people already born and out there banging each other at age 13 and up without condoms creating the unfortunate need for this discussion to begin with.

      I guess it is easier to demand the government not allow the possibility of abortions rather than you all raising your kids properly…heck, they might not be your “buddy” then.

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    • maryslittlelamb
      Posted on June 5, 2011 at 8:54pm

      The bill is not about outlawing, it is about defunding. Big difference.

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    • Mil Mom
      Posted on June 6, 2011 at 12:02am

      You say they would still happen, but in unsafe conditions. Did you read the stories about PA’s clinics this winter, those conditions sounded about as unsafe as any could be, and the writers admitted that PA had no reporting for “botched abortions” because of their privacy laws. Those clinics had been sited as unsafe. How many other states have similar practices. BESIDES ALL CONDITIONS ARE UNSAFE FOR THE MOST HELPLESS HUMANS INVOLVED IN ABORTION….THE FETUS!!!!!

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  • the hawk
    Posted on June 5, 2011 at 6:06pm

    Dont take it to court ! say no! No ! No Way ! LET THE FEDS FUSS what are they gonna do ? REALLY ?
    invade ! ! ! I think Indana has a Army reserves? ANYONE REMEMBER Gov LONG LA.
    Are they really gonna mount an armed forces stand off ? Today? like in SYRIA ?

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    • VerySeniorCitizen
      Posted on June 5, 2011 at 6:41pm

      What are the Feds going to do?

      Hawk, read The Constitution, Article V1. It‘s known as the ’Supremacy Clause’. Federal Law TRUMPS state law!!

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    • Dustyluv
      Posted on June 5, 2011 at 6:59pm

      Very senior…YOU need to read the Constitution. You are an idiot!

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    • Marylou7
      Posted on June 5, 2011 at 7:15pm

      The Federal government has been overstepping its bounds for decades and its time it stops. Stand up states and don’t back down for any reason.

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    • the hawk
      Posted on June 5, 2011 at 7:15pm

      I ‘M SURE STATE LAW WILL trump in the end Garintee it ! the federal goverment is a fowl word !

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    • aragona
      Posted on June 5, 2011 at 7:39pm

      The first thing I notice when I read the Constitution is the 10th Amendment, not the Supremacy Clause because abortion should never have been made a 14th Amendment federal issue – that is a blatant overreach by the federal government and liberal judges. Abortion should always have been left up to the states.

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    • maryslittlelamb
      Posted on June 5, 2011 at 8:59pm

      @verysenior

      Federalist Paper #33 expounds on the supremacy clause. Paying for abortions does not fall within the “necessary and proper” requirement of the supremacy clause. It‘s easy to forget that because over the years we’ve allowed a lot of things that are neither necessary nor proper for the feds to be meddling in.

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    • DaytonConserve
      Posted on June 6, 2011 at 11:39am

      @Very “We The People” trump federal law.

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  • thclad
    Posted on June 5, 2011 at 6:06pm

    Leave Planned Parenthood alone!

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    • Revere1
      Posted on June 5, 2011 at 6:07pm

      Even if Mitch Daniels decided not to run for president, at least he did the right thing here on Planned Parenthood. http://www.elephantwatcher.com/2011/05/why-didnt-mitch-daniels-run.html

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    • CanadaKen
      Posted on June 5, 2011 at 6:18pm

      Planned Parenthood should leave unborn children alone.

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    • pugsly
      Posted on June 5, 2011 at 6:26pm

      Why?

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    • betterthantv
      Posted on June 5, 2011 at 6:35pm

      Once Planned Parenthood is PRIVATELY funded, I will leave them alone. Until then they answer to us!

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    • Non-sequitur
      Posted on June 5, 2011 at 6:38pm

      Because it provides incredibly valuable health services to poor people? Mammograms, pap smears, cervical cancer vaccination, contraceptives, counseling etc etc.

      Killing planned parenthood will be VERY expensive since the state will have to care for a lot more emergency care and, not least of all, children the parents cannot afford. This will put even more of a strain on social services and make life even crappier for a hell of a lot of people.

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    • godlovinmom
      Posted on June 5, 2011 at 6:53pm

      I believe planned parenthood is actually all about birth control and abortions, not alot of seniors go to this facility and not alot of people go for any other medical problems. It is what it is…so stand firm Indiana, this will be the only way we Americans can stop this abomination called abortion. Stop their funding!

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    • Dustyluv
      Posted on June 5, 2011 at 6:58pm

      Planned Parenthood the murderers or Planned Parenthood the liars?

      Its worth every penny we spend to shut these baby killers down!!!

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    • David Schmidt
      Posted on June 5, 2011 at 7:35pm

      Hey Non-sequitur,

      Planned Parenthood doesn’t do mammograms. Just Google about it.

      Also, defunding Planned Parenthood in Indiana won’t cut normal health services. The same funds are still there for people to go FQHC clinics all over the state as get the same services. The state just won’t pay for them to go to Planned Parenthood.

      In Indiana, Planned Parenthood performs over half of all abortions based on their latest annual report which showed that they did 5,580 termination procedures. About 10,700 abortions are annually performed statewide by all providers.

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    • Professional Infidel
      Posted on June 5, 2011 at 7:35pm

      I can‘t be paid to do what I don’t want to for whatever reason!!! Stand Strong, Up his Kiester!!

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    • aragona
      Posted on June 5, 2011 at 7:37pm

      No woman I know is going to PP for mammograms and pap smears. They go for birth control and abortions. I am not going to tell you you can’t have your abortion (although I wish I could) but I don’t want to pay for it.

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    • Comeandtakeit
      Posted on June 5, 2011 at 7:38pm

      Absolutely. That is exactly what those of us who want people to be personally responsible for their choices wish to do. Leave them alone. They have NO constitutional right to my tax money. They do not provide “health care”, they kill people’s babies who choose to abort them, and all of us pay for it.

      NO MORE. Defund them completely, and if you believe so strongly in what they do, provide the funds with YOUR personal money in donations. It’s really quite simple to leave them alone. I’m all for it.

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    • desertkid
      Posted on June 5, 2011 at 7:39pm

      All groups that receive taxpayer money should not be allowed to donate said taxpayer money in support of any political party. Problem solved. We all know they get over and beyond what they need to exist and function and the rest goes back to politicians and or a political party. We would save billions of dollars and give the states back control to regulate these groups as they see fit in the communities in which they operate.

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    • Svt4Him
      Posted on June 5, 2011 at 7:42pm

      “Because it provides incredibly valuable health services to poor people? Mammograms, pap smears, cervical cancer vaccination, contraceptives, counseling etc etc.”

      Here, have another sip of this little drink.

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    • Tusker
      Posted on June 5, 2011 at 7:51pm

      THCLAD, I agree 110%! I’m so sick and tired of the govt forcing insurance on us, telling us what to eat, and what we can and can’t do with OUR BODIES! It’s out of control! Hey Barry, how bout working on the debt/deficit, creating something other than McJobs and work on the damn border issues! I supposed the govt wants teens/grown women to perform their own abortions because that’s what ultimately will happen!

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    • Patrick in AZ
      Posted on June 5, 2011 at 7:53pm

      This is why the federal government confiscates our money and then “gives it back” to the states – so that they can control the states.

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    • Stoic one
      Posted on June 5, 2011 at 7:55pm

      First point: leave planned parenthood alone….I agree NO FED MONEY. they are a private entity, therefore let them get private funding.

      Second point: the fed has no business in health care…it is a state issue. the fed should not even be collecting that money, the state should.

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    • The_Almighty_Creestof
      Posted on June 5, 2011 at 7:57pm

      4 billion? Cool…at that rate we’ll only be another 200 billion in debt by the time it goes through every state. I guess it will be well worth it for the few years it takes to swing back and start all over again. Or maybe for FREE you could all raise your kids with some morals and responsibility.

      I think the USA should just take a vote…those who vote pro-choice pay for all of the abortions with increased tax dollars…and those who vote pro-life have their taxes raised to pay for all the welfare, food stamps, day care and so on for all of the “saved” kids.

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    • cessna152
      Posted on June 5, 2011 at 8:09pm

      Why is planned parenthood getting tax dollars? Would you libs be ok with chritians getting tax dollars? Govt is not to be doing this. Gov’t provides a common defense and some infrastructure not abortions.

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    • lylee
      Posted on June 5, 2011 at 8:10pm

      The federal government should leave Indiana alone. Indiana can make up its own mind. Revenue-sharing sucks! Stop sending Indiana’s money to the feds only to have to jump through hoops to get it back.

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    • Thatsitivehadenough
      Posted on June 5, 2011 at 8:19pm

      Stop funding Planned Parenthood and start preparing a case against the Federal gov for EXTORTION.

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    • ByrdsofMisssouri
      Posted on June 5, 2011 at 8:23pm

      If you can take the life of an unborn child and live with it, fine You will answer to God. Don’t ask people who believe it is wrong to become an accomplice by asking them to pay for it, and I believe it is already proven they are using the money for abortions, which as has been pointed out is illegal.

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    • jc1776
      Posted on June 5, 2011 at 8:28pm

      In Indiana… they are. Thats the point. The State is trying to leave Planned Parenthood all to its own devices. Read, comprehend then speak. Drone.

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    • Kurty C Wipe
      Posted on June 5, 2011 at 8:35pm

      Can you imagine New Orleans without PPH….the cops raped Walmart on duty after a hurrician. What would be next? Gerald Celente called it kids.

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    • Cherynn
      Posted on June 5, 2011 at 8:46pm

      Leave MY state alone. I am really getting tired of this antiAmerican adminstrations war on America. We voted for our leaders, I dont remember voting for the HHS czar though. Whats wrong with this picture?

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    • Jediusetheforce
      Posted on June 5, 2011 at 8:49pm

      Thats the first thing I’m taking out when hell breaks loose..Down with Unplanned Parents!!!!!!

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    • ReddenBlack
      Posted on June 5, 2011 at 8:49pm

      This is what you right to lifers really want to do. http://youtu.be/sn_Iq9D_Clg

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    • freeus
      Posted on June 5, 2011 at 8:56pm

      @THCLAD
      I will never “leave Planned Parenthood alone!” as long as they kill unborn babies and harm mothers and other relatives of the unborn.

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    • carnifex
      Posted on June 5, 2011 at 9:08pm

      My daughter-in-law ran off for 3 months and got impregnated by another man. She returns home after she realizes that the guy is a slime with kids from 3 other women. Our son was demanding she get an abortion to return. Against every other member of our family, my wife and i convinced him that of all the parties involved only the baby was innocent. She returned and had him. He is now 2 years old, and the biggest Daddies boy you’ve ever seen. Even my prudish in-laws love him. He is the sweetest little boy in the world. It‘s wasn’t easy for our son at first, but now he sees the wisdom. I am proud that he let us persuade him to make the correct decision. My wife and I should not be forced to pay to murder children, nor should we be forced to pay for children that the parents can’t afford. I can see why people may make the distinction between forced impregnation. Again the child is innocent. Unfortunately, so is the mother. While I wouldn’t condone abortion in that case, neither would I castigate the mother. I would support her for having to make a terrible decision. If PP is so important for the health services it provides, then just stop aborting babies. They can then have my support. Until that time, money is too frangible to assume that “those dollars from the government”, have no direct support to that horrid practice. PS It took me about 2 decades to get my wife to agree with my abortion position, it was partial birth procedures that turned her mind

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    • PATTY HENRY
      Posted on June 5, 2011 at 9:16pm

      NO, you tell Planned Abortions to leave the USA alone. I‘m amazed that more BLACK people aren’t up in arms over Planned Abortions. Most of the helpless babies they kill are Black. IT‘S NOT BIRTH CONTROL IT’S NOT A CHOICE…it’s A BABY.

      WE HAVE TO stop our money going to the FEDS to be used for dastardly things like this. PLANNED PARENTHOOD needs to go the way of ACORN…schister organization…and no ‘slight of hand’ can make them getting ANY FEDERAL MONEY okay…because we all know they use it to pay for the overhead for places that murder the unborn. TOO BAD, you don’t want a baby? YOU KNOW WHAT TO DO BEFORE IT HAPPENS. DUH. I hope INDIANA stands tough. We need to back them up.
      ALL THE MONEY going from our hands to the FEDS needs to stop except for Defense and a few other things…but this SOCIAL ENGINEERING garbage has to stop.

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    • godlovinmom
      Posted on June 5, 2011 at 9:17pm

      Wow Carnifex…that is quite the story…and thank God he brought that little boy into your family! Bless you and your family…great job to that son of yours!

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    • carnifex
      Posted on June 5, 2011 at 9:29pm

      @GODLOVINMOMI
      It was a rough time but well worth it. Last time I was down to visit he runs to his Daddies truck and hits the door yelling at me “Bye bye, Pappaw, bye bye” So I open the door, and he clambers into the seat and stands up behind the wheel. He turns to look at me, sticks his hand out and demands “Keys!”. I think if anything ever happened to him I’d die of a broken heart

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    • jzs
      Posted on June 5, 2011 at 9:34pm

      Three percent of the of the the money Planned Parenthood goes to abortion services, none of that from Federal money. PP is prohibted by law from using Federal money for abortion (although, disagree or not, is legal in the United States). Those services and much more of PP expenses are paid for private donors.

      Planned parenthood provides education for the dismally uneducated poor and elderly of this country. They are a force in preventing unwanted pregnancies and transmission of deseases that that spread and kill. They perform pap smears that allow for the diagnosis of a cancer that would otherwise remain unknown until it was too late.

      This is pathetic political posturing. Indiana is demanding an end to funding for planned parenthood, which does not use any federal funding for abortions, or else, what? Indiana will give up the 4.3 billion in Medicaid funding for the elderly, and they’ll be left without medical care. Indiana is holding the poor and elderly hostage. If the federal government doesn’t stop giving funds to PP any funds, none of which are used for abortion, then Indiana will stop paying medical expenses for the elderly.

      That makes me sick.

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    • Sparky101
      Posted on June 5, 2011 at 9:43pm

      It continues to amaze me that people believe killing babies somehow helps the U.S. Typically, responsible people understand that if you do something, and it causes a problem, you stop doing that. Today, people like Non-Sequitur believe that we should stoop so low as to chop up little babies instead of fostering responsible adult behavior. What a tragic world view.

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    • independentvoteril
      Posted on June 5, 2011 at 9:47pm

      come on IN please don‘t mess with planned parenthood right now I can’t afford to pay anymore taxes as the WELFARE crowd comes to IL.. we already support all the DEMOCRATS illegal votes here in IL.. and we can’t sell our houses right now and move to IN..

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    • Joe Palin
      Posted on June 5, 2011 at 9:56pm

      It saves the rest of us $4 Billion, I say let them pay their own healthcare. They are just Screwing themselves.

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    • Bruce01
      Posted on June 5, 2011 at 10:00pm

      Planned Parenthood performes over 1.0 million abortions per year. This number maybe low..but no matter how you look at it they are killing innocent unborn children. People need to take responsibility for their actions. Period,

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    • decendentof56
      Posted on June 5, 2011 at 10:05pm

      JZS…
      This is about US taxpayers funding of abortions. I call it murder.
      The quintesential far-left liberal you are, JZS. I’ll bet you are one radical with a chip on your shoulder, just like Obama.
      In stead of denying there are problems in the black family, why don’t you stand up and try to change those problems. Oh, I remember, Bill Cosby tried that and was called an Uncle Tom.
      You’ll never learn.

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    • ZeitgeistBuster
      Posted on June 5, 2011 at 10:17pm

      If abortions had been limited to cases where the mother’s life was in danger, we would have almost 40 million more energetic and ambitious youth contributing to the well-being of the country right now. Social Security would not be facing bankruptcy for one.

      But an orientation of selfishness was preached to several generations of us and we are living with the consequences in the form of a society that instead of soaring towards the heights of it’s potential, instead is flirting with landing in the sewer metaphorically. Thanks Women’s Lib movement. You have swung the pendulum way the hell too far past the laudable goals of equal respect for yourselves.

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    • Jim
      Posted on June 5, 2011 at 10:25pm

      @THCLAD – I completely agree. Leave Planned Parenthood alone. We should have absolutely zero involvement with them officially from a government standpoint. No money, no help, no support.

      Now, if we decide to truly define abortion as it is then we can shut them down because they are doing something that violates the constitution (witholding life without due process). Look up the definition of life and let me know what part of being alive the fetus does not have. In the mean-time, yes, let’s leave planned parenthood alone. . . completely.

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    • CatB
      Posted on June 5, 2011 at 10:46pm

      betterthantv
      Posted on June 5, 2011 at 6:35pm
      Once Planned Parenthood is PRIVATELY funded, I will leave them alone. Until then they answer to us!

      _______________________________________________-

      Exactly … if those who support the murder of the unborn want to fund it .. then go to it .. but don’t expect those of us who do not to support and pay for murder.

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    • restorehope
      Posted on June 5, 2011 at 10:56pm

      The government has no right, legal or moral, to implicate me personally in mass murders. And that is what they are doing when they use my tax money to fund abortions. All those libs who have no problem with killing little souls should use their own money to do the dirty deed. Leave the rest of us out of it. We choose life, not death.

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    • jzs
      Posted on June 5, 2011 at 11:13pm

      Hey decendentof56, I don’t have a “chip on my shoulder.” Obama does too? About what? What is the greivence (“chip on his shoulder”) you’re accusing Obama of having?

      You say abortion is murder. Okay, fair enough. That’s a legitimate opinion, although not one held by everyone. But abortion is legal in this country, right or wrong.

      Either you didn‘t read my post or don’t read the news or both. No taxpayer money goes to abortions at planned parenthood. So, drop that. What else do you have against planned parenthood? That they are counseling people about contraception or contracting STDs or providing free medical tests for cancer or HIV?

      You’re a Christian? What part of says Christian religion says it’s an offense against God to test the poor for cancer of the uterus? And counseling people about how to avoid pregnancy?

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    • NanaLaLa
      Posted on June 5, 2011 at 11:46pm

      LEAVE PLANNED PARENTHOOD ALONE?????????!!!!!! They are effectively ridding our population of the poor black population of the United States. I say go Indiana and Gov. Mitch Daniels for standing up to these perpetrators of genocide! Every pro-life American and there are many should take up a collection to reimburse the State of Indiana the blood money they will lose from the Obama Administration to save the poor and the elderly of that State. And the Democrats say that the Republicans want to throw Granny under the bus. That is exactly what this action against Indiana would do. Shame on the Administration!

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    • NanaLaLa
      Posted on June 5, 2011 at 11:49pm

      LEAVE PLANNED PARENTHOOD ALONE?????????!!!!!! They are effectively ridding our population of the poor black population of the United States. I say go Indiana and Gov. Mitch Daniels for standing up to these perpetrators of genocide! Every pro-life American and there are many should take up a collection to reimburse the State of Indiana the blood money they will lose from the Obama Administration to save the poor and the elderly of that State. And the Democrats say that the Republicans want to throw Granny under the bus. That is exactly what this action against Indiana would do. Shame on the Administration!

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    • RationalMan
      Posted on June 5, 2011 at 11:59pm

      betterthantv said:….
      Posted on June 5, 2011 at 6:35pm
      Once Planned Parenthood is PRIVATELY funded, I will leave them alone. Until then they answer to us!

      I totally agree with you!!

      I totally agree with you!!

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    • Mil Mom
      Posted on June 6, 2011 at 12:15am

      @jzs
      You’re a Christian? What part of says Christian religion says it’s an offense against God to test the poor for cancer of the uterus? And counseling people about how to avoid pregnancy?
      *************
      Testing for cancer isn’t the issue, but for Christians, my pastor counsels on how to avoid pregancy quite often, abstenance outside marriage, will handle a large percentage of unwanted pregancies, truly locking up for life, rapists, child molesters, etc, would go a long way toward cutting down on these crimes and the pregnancies that are always touted in support of abortion. Adoption, and loving assistance for unwed mothers is a large part of our churches outreach against abortion. Did you know that POST ABORTION COUNSELING IS ALSO AVAILABLE THROUGH MANY WOMEN’S CLINICS WHICH DELIVER ALTERNATIVES TO ABORTION. THE LARGE MAJORITY OF WOMEN WHO RECEIVE THIS COUNSELING SAY THEY KNEW AT THE TIME THAT THEIR ABORTION WAS WRONG, AND ARE AMAZED THAT CHRISTIAN CLINICS SHOW THEM GOD’S LOVE AND FORGIVENESS, AND GIVE THEM A NEW CHANCE AT PEACE OF HEART!

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    • godlovinmom
      Posted on June 6, 2011 at 2:06am

      I believe the number of abortions would drop quite abit if these mothers actually had their babies…for one thing you can’t get an abortion every few months because your pregnant already…maybe by taking care of a baby…you might think twice about what you did to get that baby…all the good things that go with planned parenthood will still be there, the counseling, the birth control, cures for sexually transmitted diseases , etc…but we as a nation have to take a stand on the abortion issue and stop killing these babies so freely, and if we stop the money flow ….that would be a good start.

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    • hook
      Posted on June 6, 2011 at 6:09am

      Ban planed parenthood!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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    • GODSAMERICA
      Posted on June 6, 2011 at 7:22am

      That is STUPID! That is like a criminal that shoots and kills someone tells the victom before they die that it is his fault for being there where he could get killed. If the federal communists take away money for the poor people in the way of welfare because the state wants to defund planned parenthood then that is the federal communists fault not the state’s. Theses thugs always want to do “bad things” to people other than unions and then tell the victoms that it is their fault because they don‘t support the fed’s communistic ideals.

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    • bandi9
      Posted on June 6, 2011 at 7:35am

      leave it alone?! get it out of Indiana. cut off fed funding 100% nationwide.

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    • John 3:16
      Posted on June 6, 2011 at 9:35am

      This is very simple, Planned Parenthood murders humans, if you support Planned parenthood you have innocent blood on your hands, you are in truth are a co-conspiritor to killing babies. I don’t want my tax dollars going to killing the innocent. If a man breaks into your house ties you up and forces you to give him money, but cleans your house and washes your car is he a good man doing a good deed? After all he washed your car and cleaned your home. If they are killing Human BABIES they are killers and so are you if you support them. I would compromise though, I would leave them alone when they stop murdering babies. Just say no to KILLING Baby Humans. IT”S A BABY NOT A CHOICE !!!

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    • John 3:16
      Posted on June 6, 2011 at 9:51am

      @JZS first off you must remember in 1943 it was legal to kill Jews, Gypsies, gays and others in Nazi Germany. Was it okay then? Speaking of Nazi you and the other TROLLS here are Nazis in the sense you have no moral guide lines except destruction just like your adopted Daddy Satan.

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    • Bobmouse55
      Posted on June 6, 2011 at 11:17am

      It’s funny that you want us to pay $2 million so you can kill more babies, but want to withhold 4.3 billion to starve nursing home residents, and take basic benefits away from intellectually and physically disabled people throughout the state. That’s certainly not blackmail…. or is it?

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    • Short Shots
      Posted on June 6, 2011 at 12:50pm

      Leave Planned Parenthood alone? That is what they are trying to do. Planned Parenthood is a private business not a goverment agency, so why do we subdisize them? I agree, leave them alone and let the LIbs donate their own money if they think killing babies is such a good idea. Don’t ask me to be a contributer to murder

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    • stephenmarkovich
      Posted on June 6, 2011 at 2:53pm

      Abortion is murder. Anyone for planned parenthood is a murderer.

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    • cemerius
      Posted on June 6, 2011 at 3:02pm

      All 50 states should unify! Of Course Cali, Mass. and HI will lobby for all the EXTRA medicaid monies lost for the other 47 states!!

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    • JRook
      Posted on June 6, 2011 at 3:58pm

      Don’t see what the problem would be for right wing Republicans. They want to cut federal spending so why not do their share by reducing the amount by $ 4.3 billion. But then again, money tends to show the strengths of peoples ideology and convictions. But then again, I thought the Tea People don’t like government telling them what to do and value their freedom and liberty. Well it is that same freedom and liberty that should be available to women who want to control the reproductive aspects of their lives.

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    • *************************
      Posted on June 6, 2011 at 6:56pm

      So it’s … lose billion-dollar bribes … or … murder thousands of babies …

      That is one tough CHOICE, America. Hmm?

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    • WHOSYOURMAHDI
      Posted on June 6, 2011 at 7:16pm

      Nationally, Planned Parenthood claims that abortion services account for only 3% of their business, and they defend their existence by saying they provide other “women’s health” services.

      “If you cut our funding, every poor woman will die from breast cancer.”

      How about this. You simply eliminate “3%” of your business, and then nobody will have a problem funding you.

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