AP: Americans Rise in Rank Inside Al Qaida-Linked Somalia Jihadi Group
- Posted on January 14, 2012 at 12:37pm by
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In this Thursday, Feb. 17, 2011 file photo, al-Shabab fighters stand in formation with their weaopns during military exercises on the outskirts of Mogadishu, Somalia. A handful of young Muslims from America are taking high-visibility propaganda and operational roles inside the al-Qaida-linked al-Shabab militant group in Somalia, an Associated Press investigation shows. (AP Photo/Mohamed Sheikh Nor, File)
NAIROBI, Kenya (AP) — The October al-Qaida video shows a light-skinned man handing out food to families displaced by famine in Somalia. But the masked man is not Somali, or even African – he’s a Wisconsin native who grew up in San Diego.
A handful of young Muslims from the U.S. are taking high-visibility propaganda and operational roles inside an al-Qaida-linked insurgent force in Somalia known as al-Shabab. While most are from Minnesota, which has the largest Somali population in the nation, al-Shabab members include a Californian and an Alabaman with no ancestral ties to Somalia.
“They are being deployed in roles that appear to be shrewdly calculated to raise al-Shabab’s international profile and to recruit others, especially those from the United States and other English-speaking countries,” said Anders Folk, a former assistant U.S. attorney who prosecuted suspected al-Shabab supporters in Minnesota.
Officials fear another terrorist attack in East Africa. Kenya announced on Jan. 7 that it had thwarted attempted al-Shabab attacks over the holidays. The same day, Britain’s Foreign Office urged Britons in Kenya to be extra vigilant, warning that terrorists there may be “in the final stages of planning attacks.”
In this Wednesday, May 11, 2011 file photo, American-born Omar Hammami, 27, also known as Abu Mansur al-Amriki, right, and deputy leader of al-Shabab Sheik Mukhtar Abu Mansur Robow, left, sit under a banner which reads "Allah is Great" during a news conference by the militant group at a farm in southern Mogadishu's Afgoye district in Somalia. (AP Photo/Farah Abdi Warsameh, File)
More than 40 people have traveled from the U.S. to Somalia to join al-Shabab since 2007, and 15 of them have died, according to a report from the House Homeland Security Committee. Federal investigations into al-Shabab recruitment in the U.S. have centered on Minnesota, which has more than 32,000 Somalis.
At least 21 men have left Minnesota to join al-Shabab in that same time. The FBI has confirmed that at least two of them died in Somalia as suicide bombers. A U.S. citizen is suspected in a third suicide bombing, and another is under investigation in connection with a fourth bombing on Oct. 29 that killed 15 people.
The star of the al-Qaida video was Jehad Mostafa, 30, a Californian who handed out food using the name Abu Abdullah al-Muhajir, according to the SITE Monitoring Service. The Washington Post reported last year that Mostafa served as top lieutenant to Saleh Nabhan, a senior al-Qaida operative killed by Navy SEALs in a helicopter attack inside Somalia in 2010.
Mostafa and the Alabaman, Omar Hammami, 27, are among about a dozen men who have been charged in federal court in the U.S. and are believed to be in Somalia.
The Americans appear to have been motivated by the Ethiopian army’s intervention in Somalia in 2006, which they saw as an invasion. However, many experts believe it’s only a matter of time before al-Shabab turns its wrath on the U.S., which in February 2008 designated it as a terrorist organization. The group killed 76 people in terrorist bombings in Uganda in 2010 during the World Cup final.
U.S. military commanders fear that Americans inside al-Shabab could train as bombmakers and use their U.S. passports to carry out attacks in the United States.
E.K. Wilson, the agent overseeing the FBI’s investigation in Minneapolis, said he cannot comment on whether there is an outstanding order to capture or kill Americans fighting for al-Shabab. The FBI has publicly said the Americans should return to the U.S.
In this Wednesday, May 11, 2011 file photo, American-born Islamist militant Omar Hammami, 27, also known as Abu Mansur al-Amriki, speaks during a news conference held by the militant group al-Shabab at a farm in southern Mogadishu's Afgoye district in Somalia. (AP File Photo)
It’s a mystery what caused Mostafa, a young man whom many remember as mild and friendly, to join an extremist group.
Mostafa grew up in San Diego and graduated from the University of California San Diego. Imam Abdeljalil Mezgouri of the Islamic Center of San Diego, the city’s largest mosque, said Mostafa was a respectful teen and good student.
“He was a very quiet, very loving boy. He didn’t talk too much but when he did talk, people liked him,” said Mezgouri.
Mezgouri said Mostafa got married in his early 20s to a woman he believed was from Somalia.
Public records show Mostafa was the president of the now-defunct Muslim Youth Council of San Diego, or MYCSD. The former organization’s Web site says the group was “dedicated to showing the world that Islam is a religion of peace and Muslims are a peaceful and productive part of society.”
Mostafa’s father, Halim Mostafa, a Kurdish Syrian, is a prominent figure in San Diego’s Muslim community who has tried to build bridges with non-Muslims. He made a low-budget film released in 2008 called “Mozlym” to show how the true meaning of Islam is often lost amid the misconceptions of non-Muslims in America, according to the film’s Web site.
Mostafa’s father declined to talk.
“I just don’t want to get involved. I’m really sorry I cannot say anything. God bless you,” he said.
Edgar Hopida, a spokesman for the San Diego chapter of the Council on American-Islamic Relations, said Halim Mostafa believes in the most liberal interpretation of Islam and noted that “it’s ironic if his son is involved with al-Shabab.”
Mostafa is believed to have met American militant Anwar al-Awlaki about a decade ago at a San Diego mosque, according to The Washington Post. He went to Somalia in 2005. Federal officials declined to comment.
Mostafa was indicted in August 2010 on terrorism charges for allegedly providing material support to al-Shabab. Mostafa has a leadership role inside al-Shabab and serves as a key liaison to al-Qaida, said Evan Kohlmann, who has assisted government investigations into al-Shabab recruiting and financing.
AP could not reach Mostafa or Hammami for comment. A spokesman for al-Shabab said that the questions AP emailed were “of a personal nature relating to the roles and activities of certain individuals and for that reason they were left unanswered.”
The spokesman also said al-Shabab and al-Qaida were “brothers in Islam.” He did not provide a name but emailed from an address used by al-Shabab’s media outreach wing, which also recently launched a Twitter feed.
The Alabaman, Hammami, 27, has taken on the role of jihadi lecturer and Islamic scholar. After U.S. Navy SEALs killed al-Qaida chief Osama bin Laden in Pakistan earlier this year, Hammami threatened to avenge the killing at a news conference near Mogadishu.
Al-Awlaki’s death by a U.S. drone in Yemen in September left Hammami as the most influential U.S. English speaker in the jihadi propaganda sphere, said terrorism expert Ben Venzke. Hammami is also known as Abu Mansour al-Amriki or “the American.”
“His more accessible image and manner of speaking may prove a growing and significant threat to not just the region around Somalia but for future attacks on U.S. soil,” said Venzke of the Washington-based IntelCenter.
Hammami grew up in Daphne, Ala., a bedroom community of 20,000 outside Mobile known for sunsets on the Gulf of Mexico, seafood and high school football. The phone directory lists 43 Christian churches and not a single Islamic congregation in Daphne.
The son of a Christian mother and a Syrian-born Muslim father, Hammami attended Daphne High School. Then-assistant principal Don Blanchard recalls Hammami as generally well liked.
“Omar I would not classify as a troubled kid,” said Blanchard.
Hammami enrolled at the University of South Alabama, where he was president of the Muslim Student Association. Following the 2001 terror attacks, Hammami spoke to the student newspaper.
“Even now it’s difficult to believe a Muslim could have done this,” The Vanguard quoted Hammami as saying.
Hammami went to Somalia in 2006. He was indicted in 2007 on terrorism charges, and faced more charges in 2009 for providing material support to terrorists.
Hammami, who wears a long beard and often raps in al-Shabab videos, released a nearly 50-minute lecture in October to commemorate five years with the group. He spouts hatred for “Western oppression.” In the video, provided to AP by the IntelCenter, he compares his upbringing in America with his life in Somalia, where he says a microwave – “or even a normal oven” – is a rarity.
The English speaker serves as a recruiter and fundraiser and is one of the top people in charge of al-Shabab’s foreign fighters, Kohlmann said.
Hammami attends morning fighting drills and motivates new recruits, former al-Shabab fighter Abdi Hassan told AP. Hammami avoids mobile phones for fear intelligence agencies will trace him, and uses pseudonyms on the Internet.
“He sometimes cries with emotion, which makes others cry with him,” said Hassan. He added, “Every new American is asked to convince his friends to come. The Americans’ suicide attacks and speeches are meant to attract other Americans.”
The Americans helped produce what Venzke calls one of the most sophisticated recruitment videos ever released, featuring Minneapolis men in a July 2008 ambush of Ethiopian troops along a road in Somalia. Another video features a Minneapolis man who appeals to others to join the cause in English.
Al-Shabab does not just recruit from the U.S. Three suspects accused of having ties to al-Shabab are now in prison in Australia and awaiting sentencing for allegedly planning an attack on an Australian military base.
Dozens of U.K. residents have also traveled to Somalia to join al-Shabab, and the British government is concerned that Somalia shows many of the characteristics that made Afghanistan “a seedbed for terrorism.”
Rick Nelson, a senior fellow at the Center for Strategic and International Studies in even the possibility of military reprisal might not deter al-Shabab from carrying out an attack inside the United States.
“All the elements are there for it to happen,” Nelson said.
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Comments (137)
zoro51
Posted on January 14, 2012 at 3:29pmwayward americans whom feel a need to KILL for NO reason to followna MAN MADE CULT and to worship a FALSE STONE IDOL GOD ALLAH.. MUSLUME KILL they care NOT whom you are save that they just KILL.. theyll even kill thier OWN family members.. its NOT a honor killing its MURDER jno heaven just HELL awaits your decision. LEAVE or be killed for YOU wayward american kill SO SHALL YOU BE KILLED… fact n truth MUSLUMS KILL..
Report Post »The_Jerk
Posted on January 14, 2012 at 3:34pmSo true:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mjMRgT5o-Ig
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Auf-Su-xZVU
You are that which you oppose. Hypocrisy?
Report Post »NHwinter
Posted on January 14, 2012 at 3:43pmPathetic young American men who have no moral compass and need attention. They have a mental illness that has not been diagnosed. They know not what they do.
Report Post »lukerw
Posted on January 14, 2012 at 5:06pmNothing like a Good… American… Liberal… Education!
Report Post »HoggKilla
Posted on January 14, 2012 at 6:27pmThat would suck going over there thinking your gonna be made a leader because your stupid liberal as# thinks its cool…. Now your in their country surrounded by the savages they are and their like “here, strap this on press this switch”. Dump Liberals.
Report Post »SOIssues
Posted on January 14, 2012 at 7:00pmAnd I’m sure, those who do not convert to Islam, will be killed once the pawns have done their jobs. Islam, IMO, is Satan’s cult of death that the true God predicted in the Bible.
Report Post »cuinsong
Posted on January 14, 2012 at 7:48pmIt’s bad enough that we have a bunch of jihad’ies that were raised by crazy Muslim clerics to hate and kill any body they suggest are against the teaching’s of their religion we must endure some home grown want-to-be’s that have decided the kind of life that they enjoy in our society is worse then the offerings in the middle east or where ever the killing of Christians can be found this is a sickness that needs to be stopped.
Report Post »I have decided to wage a musical war on their kind of society because I do not have any other way to combat this scourge it is kind of like a news paper fighting with words I feel its an obligation for Americans to do all they can to stop this insanity across the world called “Jihad “ This song is about the inner part we think of as our consciousness or that inside voice it’s called “The Devils song“
http://www.reverbnation.com/play_now/song_10789987
jb.kibs
Posted on January 14, 2012 at 9:03pmOh, of course they do, this is why you passed the NDAA right?
Report Post »i mean, The American Government has supported Al Qaida… so.. really every tax payer has supported them…
Tired of Code Names
Posted on January 14, 2012 at 11:33pm@SOIssues. You may certainly be correct about the radical muslims bringing on the predicted anti-christ. I’m a conservative Lutheran and Martin Luther….whom got a lot correct, may have missed this one. Martin Luther thought the anti-christ was the pope because the pope thought then (don’t know now) that back in the 1500′s the pope had God like qualities. Well, to me, that is a big problem, but, this radical muslim thing is a far greater threat. America better wake up. Europe is struggling with the problem now because they can’t figure out “politically correct” vs. a group whose stated mission is to take you over, subjugate you and if you won’t be subjugated, KILL you. It’s a simple concept. Decide which side of that you wish to be on. Political correctness or being subjugated or killed. OHH. wait, their is another option….send them back to the land they came from and they can blow themselves up and continute their futile fights amongst themselves. We’ll watch from afar with empathy and amazement at their stupidity carried on for 2000 years.
Report Post »Delta D-5-3
Posted on January 14, 2012 at 11:57pmI would have loved to have seen that traitor while serving. He deserves no less that what we USE TO do to traitors. NO LESS. And I would have been proud to explain it to him, TRUST ME.
Report Post »TomFerrari
Posted on January 15, 2012 at 6:50amOn the positive side…
Report Post »I’d guess our 3-letter agencies have a few of their own, embedded and rising through the ranks. If not, we SHOULD.
SpankDaMonkey
Posted on January 15, 2012 at 7:49am.
We need to round up their Parents, and send them to Gitmo……..
Or just Shoot them…………….
Report Post »hidden_lion
Posted on January 15, 2012 at 10:43am“Pathetic young American men who have no moral compass …”
that pretty much describes the majority of Americans. The Country is like the the titanic…we hit an iceberg and are sinking fast with not enough lifeboats to go around.
Report Post »MYHEROISRON
Posted on January 15, 2012 at 11:52am… I will wish that the flea‘s of a thousand camel’s infests his underware! I KILL YOU!
Report Post »ThePostman
Posted on January 14, 2012 at 3:25pmAmericans do everything better.
Report Post »decendentof56
Posted on January 14, 2012 at 3:23pm@thejerk.. “If Obama is one of them, why is he surrounded by Jews?”
Report Post »If I may ask…….why are so many Jews far-left?
The_Jerk
Posted on January 14, 2012 at 3:41pmSearch for that answer, and you will find the truth. Your statement is as true statement. I’ve asked the same, as have so many others. Books upon books and articles upon articles have addressed this subject.
Report Post »The most insightful answer is that Jews have always been wanderers, and because of this, commune living, communism, became a survival strategy. There’s no question that communism was born of Jews, from Moses Hess to Marx. There’s also historic reality that Jews living in various nations have more in common with each other than each has with their host nation.
barber2
Posted on January 14, 2012 at 3:42pmIt’s the Marxism. These are all anti-religious, and anti-capitalists. They all want to “fundamentally change” American capitalism . That is the common ground which they share. At present they merely share the I Hate America philosophy with everyone else who has been so brainwashed. The other common thread they all share is a nasty amount of anger and hatred. Many of their Troll comments here are dripping with the last two , anger and hate. That’s a sure sign of a committed Lefty ( they just share the hate and anger with the jihadi types who really represent a Religion of Hate, Death and Killing which they are calling Islam but which is really a political form of Hate, Revenge and Killing.
Report Post »Netsurfer2
Posted on January 14, 2012 at 3:47pmIt’s because they want absolute power over everyone when they are in power and have all that money to back it up! It’s about control! There is no free market with Democrats, nor will their ever be! Absolute corruption, corrupts absolutely! If you ever have love for someone, then you let them seek out with developments and learning, but if you want to control, nothing will ever happen and what will happen will find no values! That goes for Islam also! Corruption because of control has no good answers!
Report Post »stormcrow53
Posted on January 14, 2012 at 9:39pmMany Jewish people are capitalists and free market supporters. Many in America also have gone through the liberal university system and are indoctrinated as are others. I would suspect that others, today and in the past, have drifted away from their religion or abandoned their religion totally and the belief in God and have taken up the religion of progressivism. Why are so many Americans communists and socialists? Pretty much anything goes in liberal la-la land. Look at Kennedy and Kopeckne, Alcee Hastings and impeachment, Clinton and his hijinx, Barney Frank and his prostitution ring and marijuana plants. Just to name a few. And they are still elected and do not resign. The religion of progressivism has you worship the state and most anything else is acceptable and now they want sex with animals too. We have abdicated the supremacy in the Middle East and the rest of the world to either the Caliphate or the communists. Europe is drownding. We will need all the allies we can get. The Foreign Dictator and his Marxist/Islamist cadres must go.
Report Post »HawkEyeTx
Posted on January 14, 2012 at 3:13pm#
Fair game….Open season on traitors to the US citizens?
Kill us, Kill them and oh yes, you can pIs$ on them also….enemy is same.
Report Post »jb.kibs
Posted on January 14, 2012 at 9:06pmyeah kill everyone that will solve all problems ::roll eyes::
you need to go fap, i think ya got some roid rage going … “come at me bro” …
LOL …
So, no one believes in Tyranny… it doesn‘t exist and it’s impossible?
Report Post »Wakeup Maggie
Posted on January 14, 2012 at 3:01pmSend them to gitmo and water board the F out of em’ …throw away the key. they are not Americans
Report Post »jb.kibs
Posted on January 14, 2012 at 9:16pmare they attacking us because we are Christians?
if so, why aren’t they doing this to Canada, Mexico, Australia, France, England, Puerto Rico, Brazil, etc… we are not the only Christian friendly nation…
4God and 4Liberty.
Report Post »stormcrow53
Posted on January 15, 2012 at 7:22am@ JB.KIBS: Your naivete is disturbing and your lack of knowledge is extraordinary.
Report Post »The UK has been attacked. Even they are being inundated by Islam as is France. Islam has declared war on France. There are Islamic zones in France where the police won’t go. The attacks on the West are varied and manifold.
But more importantly America is the head, spiritually, economically and militarily which Islam seeks to remove. The Foreign Dictator is wrong. America is a Christian nation. Islam knows this.
Why should Islam attack the UK anymore? What was the most popular boy’s given name in London?
Mohammed. Think about it.
Mexico is in chaos. And I suspect you would be shocked to discover the extent that Islam is working alongside the drug cartels. Then there are Iran and Venzuela. The synagogue bombings in South America. Islam in Trinidad and Tobago.
Attacks in war are not just from the military. War is waged financially and culturally.
There are many ways to attack and inflict a thousand cuts.
I expect you may be a product of the American education system. Critical thinking is taboo on our campuses (I’d use the actual Latin plural but that has gone out of vogue and seems awkward to our senses.)
We are at war. Islam does not wish to live in peace side by side with any other ideology. Islam must be destroyed. It cannot be made any more plain than that.
I regret the lack of brevity.
mike_trivisonno
Posted on January 15, 2012 at 7:57am@JB
It is the stated and actively pursued goal of all muslims throughout history to make Islam ascendant over all the planet. No matter when you choose to look in time or where you choose to look at on this planet, where muslims interface with non-muslims there is violent Jihad.
From Malmo Sweeden, to Mumbai, to Beslan, to Australia, the story is the same; muslims engaged in Jihad to spread Islam for Allah in the way of Mohammed.
The days of “homegrown”, “lone wolf”, “radicalized”, “islamists” are quickly coming to an end. The deception is failing. the Jihad in America is faltering. And I urge all muslims residing in America to sit up and take note of what men like Allen West are telegraphing to the ummah.
Enemies domestic; muslims engaged in Jihad.
Report Post »ohiowordguy
Posted on January 14, 2012 at 2:25pmLittle Johnny Jihad got himself a b*mb.
Where did he get it? Not from his mom!
He went to public schools and learned diver-si-ty.
They taught him “social studies,” instead of history,
So he learned to love himself — but hate you and me.
Now he’s all grown up, and in a different land.
He studies holy war and joined the Taliban.
He doesn’t share our values, and wants a different fate.
The Imam tells lil’ Johnny “Let’s have a caliphate!”
If I were little Johnny, I wouldn’t sleep too well.
Knowing the Marines might blast me straight to Hell.
I hope some day they find him (or little bits at least).
So he can share his stories, ’bout the “religion of peace.”
Report Post »Gorp
Posted on January 14, 2012 at 2:28pmNice. I like poetry.
Report Post »momrules
Posted on January 14, 2012 at 2:46pmWell done, well done.
Report Post »SoCaLCapitalist
Posted on January 14, 2012 at 2:51pmsounds like some good lyrics for a punk rock song. They’re to the point..
Report Post »Wakeup Maggie
Posted on January 14, 2012 at 2:54pmExcellent! Reposting…if you don’t mind
Report Post »The_Jerk
Posted on January 14, 2012 at 3:01pmHanns Johst would be proud to know that he has followers of the word.
Report Post »db321
Posted on January 14, 2012 at 3:24pmBrilliant!
Report Post »heartitorleaveit
Posted on January 15, 2012 at 2:14amMuslims are bred,
Report Post »For violence on Jews,
If you dont submit,
They kill you too!
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kryptonite
Posted on January 14, 2012 at 2:02pmFirst, what do these two American jihadists have in common? Both have Muslim FATHERS married to American women. Please understand, America. This is one of the takeover strategies. They come here, they marry our women (or impregnate them), and their sons become American-born jihadists, while the fathers stay in the country and spread the FALSE propaganda that Islam is a “religion of peace.” It is a stealth strategy to attack our Republic both from within and from without, and it is working.
Second, if you listen to libs or Ron Paul supporters, they will both try to deceive you by telling you this is not happening. Like Barack Hussein, Ron Paul will take us down the path of destruction. Their followers are blind. They will not listen to reason or study the evidence that shows how dangerous these two men really are. You are fooled if you think because Ron Paul works from within the Repub Party — just like Obama does from within the Dim Party — that he is an honest man. Paul is a bigot, a racist, an Islamist sympathizer, a moral anarchist and he isn’t really pro-life. I have yet to meet a TRUE pro-life doctor who recommends the morning-after pill to terminate “very early pregnancies,” like Paul does in one of his books: http://www.dailypaul.com/180123/can-no-longer-support-ron-paul-morning-after-pill?page=5
Report Post »Paul is not who he claims to be. Study him objectively and you will see I am right.
Countrygirl1362
Posted on January 14, 2012 at 2:11pmI am beginning to think that All the canidates will continue us on the road to destruction. I really think the best vote is a write in “None of the above” Thanks for the info. This election does not have a less of the two evils like we have had in the past.
Report Post »The_Jerk
Posted on January 14, 2012 at 2:20pmIf what you say is true, how do you explain these facts?
Axelrod, Plouffe, and Lew are all Jews, and they wield the power. As are Sunstein, Stern, Bloom, Feinberg, Emanuel, Emanuel, Berwick, Klain, Bernstein, Ross, Steinberg, Sutphen, Summers, Orszag, Borin, Gensler, Sperling, Shapiro, Lynn, Simon,… Kagan, Bernanke.
If you could make a comparable list of Arabs/Muslims, then ‘maybe’ your conclusions could be valid.
Report Post »Babeuf
Posted on January 14, 2012 at 2:25pmRon Paul: Greater Access To Birth Control Makes A ‘Mockery’ Of Christians
http://thinkprogress.org/health/2011/10/06/338285/ron-paul-greater-access-to-birth-control-makes-a-mockery-of-christians/
Today, GOP presidential candidate Ron Paul jumped on the bandwagon. A staunch libertarian, Paul usually goes to extreme lengths to keep government out of people’s lives. But when it comes to women’s bodies, he’s all in. Blasting the birth control decision as a “rigid regulatory overstep,” Paul insisted that President Obama’s decision to ensure greater access to birth control without “careful consideration” of Christian conservatives as outright “mockery“:
Ron Paul hates invasive government but supports state-mandated sonograms
Report Post »http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/she-the-people/post/ron-paul-hates-invasive-government-but-supports-state-mandated-sonograms/2012/01/11/gIQAcikYrP_blog.html
ZeldaZick
Posted on January 14, 2012 at 2:28pmSort of like what happened to Barry’s mommy, huh?
Report Post »larrylarrylarry
Posted on January 14, 2012 at 2:29pmOf course there is no list of successful Arabs. Take a look at their faces, a picture tells you they are more goat than human.
Report Post »The_Jerk
Posted on January 14, 2012 at 2:42pmLarrylarrylarry, the accusations are that Obama is a Muslim, Muslim sympathizer, and that he toils for their interests. The facts point more to Obama being more Jewish, Jewish sympathizer, and that he toils for their interests. All of those mentioned are pro-Israeli. All are Jews. All are in high office. Emanuel’s father was a member of the Jewish terrorist group, Irgun.
Report Post »ZengaPA65
Posted on January 14, 2012 at 2:53pm@ KRYPTONITE
“Paul is a bigot, a racist, an Islamist sympathizer, a moral anarchist and he isn’t really pro-life.”
You forgot to mention he’s gay black Jewish and in the Ku Klux Klan, *******.
Report Post »kryptonite
Posted on January 14, 2012 at 4:21pm@ZengaPA65
“You forgot to mention he’s gay…”
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He’s obviously not gay, but like I said, he’s a moral anarchist. That’s why gays, prostitutes, druggies, and the like support Ron Paul in large numbers.
==> “…black Jewish…”
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“Ridicule is man’s most potent weapon.” Saul Alinsky
I must say, you are pretty lame at it; more on the ridiculous side.
==> “… and in the Ku Klux Klan…”
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Ha! The KKK endorses Paul, just like the commies endorsed Obama in 2008. Ask yourself why.
==> “*******”
Report Post »—-
That’s a compliment, coming from a Ron Paul sheeple like you. Baa, baa.
kryptonite
Posted on January 14, 2012 at 4:54pm@Babeuf
Why would a pro-life doctor even mention the morning-after pill? Recommending the morning-after pill to women who want to terminate “very early pregnancies” is like telling Nazis how to torture Jews, because, what the heck, they were going to murder them anyway. I find it very troubling that Paul should specifically refer to “very early pregnancies.” It suggests he has the lib notion that these are not really babies, and therefore can be disposed of without major trauma.
I don’t give a **** what Ron Paul says in the heat of the campaign. Like all liars, he slipped and said what he really thinks in his book. Ron Paul is a moral anarchist, who will destroy our Republic from within, while reciting the Constitution. It is evil’s most effective weapon: masquerading as good.
Report Post »sflm
Posted on January 14, 2012 at 5:04pmWe’re well aware of the intent of Islamists.
Report Post »Twobyfour
Posted on January 14, 2012 at 5:16pmThe_jerk, the problem isn’t that they are Jews… it‘s that they aren’t Jews enough.
1. The Ashkenazim are one or two standard deviations above average in intelligence. Thus you’d find them disproportionally represented in occupations that require a degree of it.
2. All these people that you listed have in common secularism (or are of the “reformed” branch of Judaism). You won’t find orthodox Jews amongst them.
3. Your thesis that it’s a result of communal living is not correct. Though Jews lived usually in a secluded settings (ghettos), they did not practice any form of communal patterns beyond those of other groups, or society at large. The communal ideas were introduced by christian heretics, from Cathars to Hussite radicals, not by Jews. The communal patterns and thinking appeared in secular Jewish groups long after the mentioned groups.
4. Scapegoating is a favorite pass time of the weak-minded, yours truly inclusive.
Report Post »kryptonite
Posted on January 14, 2012 at 5:50pm@THE JERK
You are DISinformed, JERK. Those are apostate Jews, as in, followers of Marx or some other commie offshoot. Commies are aligned with Islamo-fascists, not just in this country but around the world. Both ideologies want to destroy the free world. For ex., Bernardine Dohrn, a half-Jew and Obama buddy, helped organized the Gaza flotilla. Soros is another excellent example of an apostate Jew. He helps fund the New Israel Fund, a radical, anti-Israel leftist group whose associate director stated
“she believed that in 100 years Israel would be majority Arab and that the disappearance of a Jewish state would not be the tragedy that Israelis fear since it would become more democratic.” http://www.commentarymagazine.com/2011/09/06/wikileaks-new-israel-fund-endorses-end-of-jewish-state/
Why don’t you watch the CNN docuumentaries on world slavery? (Kudos to CNN for the Freedom Project. It appears to be making a difference – at least for now.). Did you know that blacks in Africa try to flee into Israel to escape death and slavery? Most of them are captured or killed by ARABS in the desert before they reach Israel. If they are lucky they are shot. The unlucky ones are ripped open alive and their organs harvested, or they are tortured to death, or raped and enslaved. Israel is the only haven for freedom in the region. It is not too late to shun the darkness, JERK.
Report Post »jb.kibs
Posted on January 14, 2012 at 9:11pmwe already went through ALL OF THIS with The Crusades. how STUPID are you people?!
hitler got ALL of his people to believe that jews and blacks were animals, etc… really guys, you better wake up before your souls are damned for all eternity…
Matthew 5:9 Blessed are the peacemakers: for they shall be called the children of God.
Report Post »sodacrackers2
Posted on January 14, 2012 at 11:37pmCountrygirl, a vote for “none of the above” is a vote for Obama, and a vote to cast our country into hell on earth. Vote for Romney and then hold his feet to the fire!
Report Post »recoveringneocon
Posted on January 15, 2012 at 5:23pmJews for Ron Paul
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flatdaddio
Posted on January 14, 2012 at 1:51pmthey need some lead piercings
Report Post »byehlik
Posted on January 14, 2012 at 1:58pmPiss on them!
Report Post »Stoic one
Posted on January 14, 2012 at 2:24pmBoth!
Report Post »Frodo RinosBane
Posted on January 14, 2012 at 1:45pmOoh, I’m so scared now. I’m sure a bullet can stop these twits, too.
Report Post »robinakilt
Posted on January 14, 2012 at 1:40pmKnow your enemy, they know you! I am not now nor will I ever be a friend to Islam!!!! Christians and Jews need to wake up and realize what is going on. This is a religious war, the difference is we stopped fighting it years ago and they never have stopped fighting! Take off the blinders and realize your enemy is now in your house trying to change and make rules! Let me be clear you are my enemy but I wish you no harm, but I will defend what is mine!
Report Post »ZeldaZick
Posted on January 14, 2012 at 2:15pmPure Truth, well written, great focus.
Islam is a weapon being used by the Marxists to sew confusion and violence amoung us. Why fight a battle and risk injury when you can provoke another to do it for you.
Report Post »momrules
Posted on January 14, 2012 at 1:29pmWhy do any of them still have US passports? Why should they be allowed back into the States if they are known to be training terrorists and are terrorists themselves?
Revoke their citizenship and be done with them.
Obama’s policies are making us prisoners in our own country but these so-called Americans are probably on his prayer list.
Report Post »db321
Posted on January 14, 2012 at 1:46pmAt lease these guys are standing up for something they believe in – look at Tim Tebow – what is he standing up for?
Who would like to see your daughter drag home, an American born jihadist or Tim Tebow?
Report Post »momrules
Posted on January 14, 2012 at 1:55pmDB321…………are you a jihadist?
Tim is standing up for the one true God while these otheres are standing up for their belief in Satan.
Report Post »drago
Posted on January 14, 2012 at 2:39pm@Momrules
Report Post »db321 is none other than encinom, hes off his meds as usual, and will spew crap like that for hours…..
robertsgal
Posted on January 14, 2012 at 1:19pmi urge all of you to read The Terrorist Hunter by Anonymous. I just started to read this book and am 1/2 way finished. It is scary stuff and wait until you read how inept the US government handles/ed terrorism. Oh but WE have NOTHING to fear from the Muslim Brotherhood!!!! Mr Obama is truly living in la la land.
Report Post »AJAYW
Posted on January 14, 2012 at 1:28pmObama is one of them–just wait and see
Report Post »The_Jerk
Posted on January 14, 2012 at 1:47pmIf Obama is one of them, why is he surrounded by Jews? Axelrod, Plouffe, and Lew are all Jews, and they wield the power. As are Sunstein, Stern, Bloom, Feinberg, Emanuel, Emanuel, Berwick, Klain, Bernstein, Ross, Steinberg, Sutphen, Summers, Orszag, Borin, Gensler, Sperling, Shapiro, Lynn, Simon,… Kagan, Bernanke. You’ve been misinformed, purposefully.
Report Post »AJAYW
Posted on January 14, 2012 at 3:06pm@The_Jerk
Have you read his book –
Report Post »The_Jerk
Posted on January 14, 2012 at 3:16pmAJAYW, it’s not what they say. It’s what they do.
Report Post »barber2
Posted on January 14, 2012 at 3:23pmMany of the early Marxists were liberal, non-temple attending Jews. Think that these dudes are all “humanitarian ” types who substituted a belief in God for a belief in Big Daddy Government. They, like Obama, hated capitalism and the “rich.” They, like the Occupiers, felt that the “rich” should be punished and that their stuff should be “redistributed.” We are seeing the Occupier mentality try to bring about the Lefty American Revolution. Been reading comments from their vanguard members for months in the New York Times. It’s an International Movement . ( even happening in Hungary where they are calling their president the Victator and using the media to stir up unrest )
Report Post »tzion
Posted on January 14, 2012 at 6:25pm@Smack
Report Post »When was the last time any of those Jews ever went to a synagogue? Just as some use the term RINO, I’d say those people are JINOs because they have turned their backs on what Judaism truly is. Believe me, Judaism is actually threatened by people such as these. I’ll join you in condemning them for their actions, but I won’t condemn all Jews because of them. Over 95% of blacks in this country vote democrat consistently, but no one would say that all African natives are socialists.
oldchevyguy
Posted on January 14, 2012 at 1:17pmPull their passports,lose their citizenship and put them on the terrorists watchlist.
Report Post »Dockta
Posted on January 14, 2012 at 1:12pmNot a muslim in the USA can we possibly trust. Their religion, their ideology provides no leeway…they are sworn enemies to Western culture. We cannot allow them to destroy the USA from within.
Report Post »momrules
Posted on January 14, 2012 at 1:30pmBut they are doing it with the help of CAIR and the federal government.
Report Post »recoveringneocon
Posted on January 14, 2012 at 1:10pmThe poor 3 guys in the front row have to carry all the ammo.
Report Post »skippy6
Posted on January 14, 2012 at 1:07pmNo shocker here, personally I don’t trust them, I’ve seen first hand how they treat women as second class citizens.. Why are so many living in MN??? It can’t be the weather, it’s the furthest thing from somalias climate….Oh yeah, I‘ll bet it’s generous welfare benefits..
Report Post »ZeldaZick
Posted on January 14, 2012 at 1:33pmI live near “The Cities” in MN. Ten years ago we have many open jobs and one of the best paying welfare systems around. Thus the Sammy‘s started coming to St Paul and haven’t stopped since.
One Sammy guy will marry a Sammy wife, then take another 3 more by Islamic law. The kids from the three non-registered marriages apply for ADC and the man lives off the welfare check turned over to him by is “gals”.
Can’t wait until one walks into “The Mall of America” with an AK or bomb-vest strapped on!
Report Post »momrules
Posted on January 14, 2012 at 2:03pmTennessee also has a huge number of Somalian immigarants. Who would have ever thought that would happen?
Report Post »skippy6
Posted on January 14, 2012 at 3:00pm@zeldazick Almost sounds like they’re breeding an army on the back of tax payers, and once they have the numbers the nut jobs will attack…..
Report Post »barber2
Posted on January 14, 2012 at 3:09pmZELD: How can polygamy be allowed here ? Sari-ah next ? Too bad the Obama “government consolidation ” crew who is now professing a need to Fast Track consolidating bureaus doesn’t tighten up our welfare laws to cut abuses such as you have mentioned. Oh, forgot. That‘s part of the Democrats’ voting base : The Redistribute From the Functioning Citizens and Give It To Me Crowd… The Occupiers … the phony 99% …
Report Post »rlimike
Posted on January 14, 2012 at 1:03pm15 of them have died ….. 25 to go!
Report Post »NOT A CRAZY
Posted on January 14, 2012 at 12:57pmI hope Osama’s finally washing was in pig urine, if he is actually dead.
Report Post »db321
Posted on January 14, 2012 at 3:15pmAre you saying you don’t trust this administration?
Report Post »NOT A CRAZY
Posted on January 14, 2012 at 12:54pmGive me a chance and I will urinate on his corpse!!!!!
Report Post »Snowleopard {gallery of cat folks}
Posted on January 14, 2012 at 12:53pmI have to wonder how many of these people are agents being trained for the ‘events’ Obama needs to have happen here in America before the elections?
Report Post »netmail
Posted on January 14, 2012 at 12:57pmI don’t know, but I think a few of them are posting here on The Blaze.
Report Post »last frontier
Posted on January 14, 2012 at 12:50pmThey rise to the top so fast because there is a pretty high attrition rate at the top of the heap. I wonder if this is the blue eyed blond hair terrorist they have been warning us about.
Report Post »abbygirl1994
Posted on January 14, 2012 at 12:49pmAs far as I am concerned, they are no longer American’s. When you cross the line and fight on the side of AL Queda you are the enemy.. God help us!
Report Post »barber2
Posted on January 14, 2012 at 1:36pmExactly. Looks like the word “ traitor” will need to return to in our national vocabulary AND our judiciary . How will our legal folks separate those encouraging violent acts against the US by recruiting , giving aid , advice, and comfort in the United States from those actively fighting ? How will Holder’s DOJ ever be able to ferret all of this out when Holder wants to even punish states in this country for trying to secure their borders ? Does anyone else see the total absurdity and danger we face with this situation ?
Report Post »momrules
Posted on January 14, 2012 at 1:37pmRight on Abbey…….my feelings exactly.
Report Post »db321
Posted on January 14, 2012 at 2:19pmThen where does that put our President?
Report Post »pamela kay
Posted on January 15, 2012 at 2:00amABBYGIRL1994, I could be wrong but you seem to be young. I am impressed by your comments and usually agree. Thanks for the good posts. God Bless!
Report Post »NOBALONEY
Posted on January 14, 2012 at 12:46pmObama plans to have a beer summit with these fine comrades.
Report Post »drattastic
Posted on January 14, 2012 at 1:07pmNot in an election year . This year he is a small government ,tax cutting ,pro business ,Christian man . Haven‘t you been watching msnbc he’s the greatest most bestest President and the humblest too he only ranks himself 4th best President ever( I‘m sure one more term and he’ll have to admit he’s #1). Forget those first 3 years and his whole life before the White House ( he just appeared, no past there ) we’ll just say he was awesome ! This time he can finally throw off the G.W.Bush shackles and do some real President’un . Now, how about that beer .
Report Post »barber2
Posted on January 14, 2012 at 3:00pmDRATT; oh, and don’t you know that Mr. Bestest President now wants to cut down on government spending by consolidating bureaus ? Oh, he is sooo fugal. Did you notice that the FIRST area he wants to cut down is in the area of business and commerce ? You know how he feels about those nasty , 1% capitalists ! Oh, and don’t forget those huge cuts to the military ! So, let’s see, Mr. Bestest- Frugal President’s first two areas for the chopping block are business and military.. Hmmmmmm……I just bet that his Far Left Occupiers will be so pleased with him as he fights this War on Capitalism…
Report Post »Jim in Houston
Posted on January 14, 2012 at 12:44pmThey really look rank. I wonder if they smell rank? Nah, no doubt they do.
Report Post »CatB
Posted on January 14, 2012 at 12:59pmJust like OWS .. cut of the same cloth.
Report Post »barber2
Posted on January 14, 2012 at 1:28pmCATB: The OWS is just a “secular” branch of the I Hate America Club.
Report Post »Baddoggy
Posted on January 14, 2012 at 12:44pmA super duper scare tactic story from our Government so they can keep the war machine growing and the Nation building on track. A frickin handful have joined and we get all bent out of shape being told they are going to come back and destroy us. Its total BS.
If we close our borders and dont let these people back in, tell me how they can hurt us? The cannot! But as long as the borders are open and unprotected they have a shot,
But instead i am sure one day we will send troops into somalia, blow it all to hell, then rebuild it for them. How stupid are we?
Report Post »13th Imam
Posted on January 14, 2012 at 12:56pmWhy do we have to send troops??
Find em, send cruise missiles , . Find the next traitor, REPEAT
Report Post »drago
Posted on January 14, 2012 at 2:41pm@baddoggy aka encinom
Report Post »“How stupid are we”? In your case, pretty f-n stupid…..
NoNannyState4me
Posted on January 14, 2012 at 3:06pmBad Doggy has it right. What is the allure to all the ‘christians’ on this site to killing people? I can’t stand Islam, it’s filthy and you idjits remind me of muslim fanatics with all the talk and cheering about killing people overseas.
Report Post »barber2
Posted on January 14, 2012 at 3:15pmDon’t think this is a made-up, government scare story. And it sounds like our government, support the decision or not, is doing everything it can to back down our troops and our presence in that area.
Report Post »Baddoggy
Posted on January 14, 2012 at 3:22pm@ Drago…I am a combat veteran, a Patriot, a Constitutionalist and a Ron Paul supporter. I assure you I am not enmicon. And I am right.
Report Post »UnreconstructedLibertarian
Posted on January 14, 2012 at 4:22pmYep, this is fodder for the NDAA goat.
Instead of maintaining these individuals as citizens, the proper route is to present a writ if marque and reprisal against them and revoke their citizenship. Its obvious they have not only removed themselves from American soil, but taken up arms in support of a foreign, hostile, militant organization.
Is it just me , or has anyone else noted that these people are first generation US citizens of foreign born parents?
We’ve never needed section 1021 or 1022 of the current NDAA, we’ve only ever needed to obey the Constitution.
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