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AP Analyzes ‘Days of Rage’: ‘It’s Unclear Exactly What the Demonstrators Want’

Associated Press Says Its Unclear Exactly What the Demonstrators Want

Below, find the Associated Press’ analysis of the Days of Rage protest:

NEW YORK (AP) — The dozens of people in tie-dyed T-shirts and star-spangled underwear have been camped out in a granite plaza in lower Manhattan for more than a week — and show no signs of going away.

They sleep on air mattresses, use Mac laptops and play drums. They go to the bathroom at the local McDonald’s. A few times a day, they march down to Wall Street, yelling, “This is what democracy looks like!”

It all has the feel of a classic street protest with one exception: It’s unclear exactly what the demonstrators want:

“When all the bailout money was spent on bonuses and stuff everyone was outraged, but no one did anything because no one feels like they can,” protester Jesse Wilson, 22, said this week when asked to take articulate the cause. “It’s time for us to come together to realize we are the masses, and we can make things happen.”

But he couldn’t say what, exactly, he wanted to happen. Handmade signs carried by some of the demonstrators — “Less is More” and “Capitalism is evil” — hardly make it clearer.

But does it matter that the protest is vague?

Academics and longtime activists give varying opinions.

“A lot of this revolves around economic justice, who gets what in this society, who has a safety net, who doesn’t and how much corporate influence exists in Washington,” said Bill Dobbs, an activist involved in the 2004 demonstrations at the Republican National Convention, and many others.

Dobbs and others say the group’s lack of specificity serves a purpose because it invites outrage over a full spectrum of societal grievances. Indeed, some demonstrators say they are against Wall Street greed, others say they are protesting global warming and still others say they are protesting “the man.”

The modern protester also expects an immediate response, thanks in part to technology, said Gabriella Coleman, a New York University professor of media, culture and communication who has studied some of the groups affiliated with the protest.

“We are in a cultural moment where people think the dictator will topple tomorrow, after four days of protests, and also the media is going to jump to pay attention,” Coleman said.

There has been a growing swell of coverage in mainstream media, but there has been loud complaining the cause hasn’t been championed fast enough — or in the way protesters want.

Newspapers, The Associated Press and television stations have covered the protests, and editorials have both poked fun and lauded the effort downtown. National Public Radio, which hasn’t aired stories, has fielded angry communiques demanding coverage.

“The recent protests on Wall Street did not involve large numbers of people, prominent people, a great disruption or an especially clear objective,” Dick Meyer, executive editor for news, explained on NPR’s website.

But observers say the approach can be difficult for media — and the average person — to digest.

“You should have a clear and convincing message, and know who is going to deliver it,” said the Rev. Herbert Daughtry, a longtime civil rights activist who has participated in protests for decades. “One of the reasons to get attention is to deliver the message.”

Associated Press Says Its Unclear Exactly What the Demonstrators WantMisinformation has added to the confusion. For instance, a rumor sprang up on Twitter that the New York Police Department wanted to use tear gas on protesters — a crowd-control tactic the department doesn’t use. The organizing group that calls itself Occupy Wall Street retracted the claim, one of several such retractions over the past several days. On Friday, it sent out a message that Radiohead would be performing in solidarity for the cause. (The band‘s management said it wasn’t playing.)

Clashes with police have resulted in about 100 arrests. Most were for disorderly conduct. Many were the subject of homemade videos posted online.

One video surfaced of a group of girls shot with pepper spray by NYPD Deputy Inspector Anthony Bologna. The woman claimed they were abused and demanded the officer resign, and the video has been the subject of several news articles and commentary. Police Commissioner Raymond Kelly said internal affairs would look into whether Bologna acted improperly and has also said the video doesn’t show “tumultuous” behavior by the protesters. The Civilian Complaint Review Board is also investigating.

A group affiliated with protest, Anonymous, later posted Bologna’s personal details, including where his kids go to school. He has received threatening e-mails, said a police union spokesman, Roy Richter.

“Posting the information about a family police officer … that’s egregious and over the line,” Richter said.

Coleman explained the move was likely the work of one or two individuals not acting on behalf of the entire movement, since the handle Anonymous is not a collective group that makes decisions together on how to act.

“A tactic like that has been received anywhere from controversy to celebration, because someone took action to the police’s action,” she said.

A real estate firm that owns Zuccotti Park, the private plaza off Broadway occupied by the protesters, has expressed concerns about conditions there, saying in a statement that it hopes to work with the city to restore the park “to its intended purpose.” But it’s not clear whether legal action will be taken, and police say there are no plans to try to remove anyone.

“We see it as our job to make certain that people can demonstrate peacefully,” Kelly said.

Mostly, the protests have been peaceful, and the movement has shown no signs of losing steam. Celebrities like Michael Moore and Susan Sarandon even made recent stops downtown to encourage the group.

Seasoned activists said the ad-hoc protest could prove to be a training ground for future organizers of larger and more cohesive demonstrations, or motivate those on the sidelines to speak out against injustices.

“You may not get much, or any of these things on the first go-around,” Daughtry said. “But it’s the long haul that matters.”

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  • wordweaver
    Posted on October 2, 2011 at 1:18am

    I saw enough of these guys interviewed on the street to conclude that they neither know what they are protesting nor what they want. This is an opportunity for them to do a little urban camping and obtain a little notoriety from the media. Didn’t see much rage.

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    • HARDWORKPAYS
      Posted on October 2, 2011 at 9:23pm

      Oh my god!! They are empty souls. What they need is a sense of normalcy, family values, character, purpose, integrity, morals, strength, leadership, goals, truth, and accomplishment.
      What they want is free everything because they do not know how to get those things by themselves.

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    • Ruler4You
      Posted on October 3, 2011 at 2:30am

      What do you mean ‘unclear’? It’s very clear what they want; Chaos. Only, chaos.

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    • fuzzybear
      Posted on October 3, 2011 at 11:27am

      the protesters are protesting corpate greed bail outs and man made global warming thay are protesting human nature the past and a myth good luck with that!!

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  • Zcat
    Posted on October 2, 2011 at 1:16am

    Democrats are promoting this crap big time. Bloombergs been praying for it all week. Van Jones and union thugs show up sometime this month! I’m beginning to really believe dems are going to try something before the election, We already have two calling to suspend election, less democracy. Bunch of freaks. Maybe New Yorker will get feed up and run these people off. You can bet Bloomberg is not going to let the police do much of nothing, Total lack of respect for the business owners, and the rest of that have to be subject to the stench and filth!

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    • CatB
      Posted on October 2, 2011 at 1:37am

      They want what anyone who has a week or more to sit around and stick up the place .. something for NOTHING … these are the ones who say the rich don’t pay enough taxes .. THE ONES WHO PAY NONE and get free services. These are the entitlement class .. useful idiots that those who are behind this will keep in bondage (slavery) to the government.

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    • Zer0
      Posted on October 2, 2011 at 2:05am

      I think all those kids’ (Michael Moore included) parents are related.

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    • GETLIFE
      Posted on October 2, 2011 at 6:17am

      As long as they are going to be there for a while, some nice conservative group should put together some reading material for them. Educate them as to how many BILLIONS the US gives away–either directly or through other agencies (IMF!)– to impoverished nations and peoples. Show them what other more socialist nations give in comparison…. Then follow the money trail backwards as to where (besides China) all of those US tax dollars come from.

      Actually, perhaps they are not getting much msm coverage because even the left doesn’t want to be associated with them. They are embarrassingly lacking coherence and leadership–perhaps someone in the wings is working on it….

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    • Zorro6821
      Posted on October 2, 2011 at 8:31am

      I find this very interesting. I have checked out the the various new sites and they all have different points of view. What I am seeing and reading is quite clear. The protestors sound a lot like the Tea Party in that they want to stop wars and nation building, stop crony capitalism, go back to the constitution, kick out the bought and paid for politicians..etc. I really don’t see anything more sinister going on. Fox paints then as nuts, but I see them as fed up. I think Beck got this one wrong. Read the signs and stop listening to the Corporate Fox propaganda. Read, Listen, and make up your own mind. Sounds like a Tea Party rally to me.

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    • poorrichard09
      Posted on October 2, 2011 at 8:44am

      It looks to like the run- up to 2012 elections is going to be really ugly. All the enemies of America-foreign and domestic think this is the time to overthrow the country. “The perfect storm” like Glenn has said.

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    • txbigfoot
      Posted on October 2, 2011 at 8:51am

      enforce the loitering laws
      have Mickey D grow some balls on free use of the toilet
      Cut the free wifi and free charging of electronic devices.
      That’s theft of services.
      A bunch of basement kids given support by limousine demorats.
      And they listen. Thats amazing.

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    • old white guy
      Posted on October 2, 2011 at 8:53am

      disruption is what they want. they are leeches on society and want to suck more blood from working americans. when those in power are leeches what do think the other leeches are going to do?

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    • ishka4me
      Posted on October 2, 2011 at 10:42am

      The Double Mocha Latte Revolution. Slackers finally becominag adults want free money, free college, free food, etc… This is the generation that wasn’t allowed to keep score in little league. This generation is the first to not have school grades of a, b ,c,d, and f. First generation not willing to work any job but stay at home and play video games in between skateboarding.

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    • ishka4me
      Posted on October 2, 2011 at 11:23am

      these kids are simply “ the Useful idiots” of George Soros, Vann Jones and Lerner.

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    • HKS
      Posted on October 2, 2011 at 11:28am

      I guess kids are pretty stupid, anyone can use them, and the commies make a point oft it.

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    • motonutt
      Posted on October 2, 2011 at 12:05pm

      When you have a mass colection of Godless you will have caos and confusion…That’s all.

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    • IntransigentMind
      Posted on October 2, 2011 at 2:27pm

      It’s only unclear to the ignorant. You’d better wake up your family. Time to pause the football game:
      http://markamerica.com/2011/10/02/the-radical-left-moves-against-america/

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    • LadyLiberty
      Posted on October 2, 2011 at 4:25pm

      Someone stop the stupid….

      http://ladyliberty1885.wordpress.com/2011/10/02/getjobsyouhippiecrits/

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    • ramburner
      Posted on October 2, 2011 at 8:43pm

      I can’t believe the person who wrote this article even questions what these anarchists want! They want a total breakdown of civilization, so that the Fed goes in to “save the day and protect our peaceful way of life” by instituting Marshall law and perhaps detaining thousands in the camps all ready set up with adjoining railroad tracks. What better way to establish a socialist country?

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  • Cosmos102
    Posted on October 2, 2011 at 1:09am

    It is hard, even among Leftist/hippies who are chronically unemployed *cough, cough*, to get them to gather at a protest for something they didn’t know existed until they heard the talking points and cry to war, either on Twitter, or by text messages from their contacts/friends. They probably thought there would be free food, or something.

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  • Buster Hyman
    Posted on October 2, 2011 at 1:07am

    Isn’t the answer obvious? More drugs.

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    • neidermeyer
      Posted on October 2, 2011 at 7:07am

      The answer is obvious , Wall Street and the Government are one and the same.. The middle class is being attacked while FedReserve member banks and their counterparties soak up $16Trillion in our funds destroying the value of any savings. We haven’t had any meaningful oversight in decades .. When you give entities who have no moral center and no oversight absolute power you can expect bad things to happen. This is generalized rage (very muted but deepseated rage) because we quite literally have no control over our destiny and the answer isn’t a BIGGER BADDER central government but rather individual empowerment… That requires a revolution … drastic reductions in the size of government.

      The best example of this is how we have allowed these banks to destroy land title in America … nobody owns anything anymore as title chains are damaged beyond repair… and banks are foreclosing on properties that they have NO economic interest in as they have sold and been paid on the loans years ago first when they sold the loans to create bonds/certificates , then again when the various bailouts came out of OUR pocket and yet again (up to 30X face value on the loans) with insurance (AIG and others) and swaps (once again backstopped by the Fed Reserve)…

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    • txbigfoot
      Posted on October 2, 2011 at 9:05am

      ROFLOL @neidermeyer
      you moron. Banks are foreclosing on property they have no interest in? Who is on the deed of trust you tool? It does not require a revolution. Why dont you show us the electric bill/wifi bill you used to post here? Did you steal that too? If so, you are nothing but a common thief. Where did YOUR money come from to raise you feed and house you? What money are you living on now as you make your final stand in NY? You make me sick you pathetic little worm..

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  • Zcat
    Posted on October 2, 2011 at 1:05am

    Bonus: Charlie Rangel tried to address the crowd and was promptly chased off by an irate protester.

    (NY Post) — A horde of Wall Street demonstrators shut down the Brooklyn Bridge for 2 1/2 hours this afternoon, halting traffic and clashing as cops arrested as many as 700 on the famed span’s roadway.

    About 100 cars were left stranded as the loud, angry crowd covered the crossing from end to end in an inflamed day of demonstrations against high unemployment, bank bailouts and financial pain for the masses.

    One irate driver, a Ground Zero construction worker, blasted the pedestrians.

    “I work my ass off all day, and these goddamned hippies close down the Brooklyn Bridge so I can’t get home?” he said. “This ain’t right!”…

    Embattled Congressman Charlie Rangel tried to lend his support but was chased away by a heckler.

    Rangel had begun an informal speech to the crowd when a man started taunting him, and then coming towards him, witnesses said.

    City Councilman Charles Barron (D-Brooklyn) was standing nearby as the incident unfolded.

    “Charlie was saying how they need to have more people down here to support this. That’s why he was there,” Barron told The Post. “This heckler came out of the crowd and went after him.”

    As Rangel, who was unhurt, backed away from the pushy protestor the crowd came to his rescue, swamping the heckler and chanting in response: “Everyone has the right to speak.” Weasel Zippers.com

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  • TJexcite
    Posted on October 2, 2011 at 12:54am

    There needs to be a tea party to infiltrate. Several Gadsden flags or something. This this would turn into the most evil thing and the media will turn very fast. All the violence will be the fault of the tea party. They will be called racists and not need being listened to.

    It just full that when thousands protested Washington from the right with no real message the media hated them but when a few thousand protest in NYC from the left with no real message and hundreds of arrests the media does not say boo.

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  • ricckky
    Posted on October 2, 2011 at 12:53am

    As Newt Gingrich once said ” THE LEFT CAN LIE BETTER THAN WE-(CONSERVATIVES)- CAN TELL THE TRUTH”-How sad but true

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  • lodgerat
    Posted on October 2, 2011 at 12:49am

    Thet just want chaos and to destroy capitalism

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    • scarebear83
      Posted on October 2, 2011 at 1:08am

      Ok, they don’t like the bailouts… agreed. But they think capitalism is evil or that it‘s capitalism’s fault? The bailout to wall street and banks aren’t even remotely capitalist! It’s a socialist idea that some of these people love so much. Maybe they‘re mad that it didn’t go into their pockets instead? Trying to understand these guys is getting confusing.

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    • GETLIFE
      Posted on October 2, 2011 at 6:33am

      @SCAREBEAR
      No Kidding! They voted for a socialist, who continued the socialist bailouts–up until that point everybody was happy. Then lo-and-behold– the bailout money never got down to the little guy! What a surprise! For all of you protesters who only know “socialism” as a concept, an ideal for which to strive–you now have a real life example of how it actually works. What happened with the bailout money IS socialism. That’s how it works. The money never filters through to the little guy.

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    • Zorro6821
      Posted on October 2, 2011 at 8:42am

      I think your wrong on this one. Who is really being brian washed? What I am seeing is quite the opposite. They want to stop the corruption and greed. I may be crazy but so far it sounds reasonable. The protest signs that I read support Tea Party principles. That is what I am seeing? Of course there are some wacky signs, but for the most part, I don’t see much difference between the Tea Party mantra and the protestors.

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    • BOMUSTGO
      Posted on October 2, 2011 at 9:35am

      Socialism is not moving fast enough for them.That’s what they are protesting.They want the wealth spread to them.

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  • ZomBrad
    Posted on October 2, 2011 at 12:49am

    So, like…we’re here protesting how banks, and wall street are, like, taking all our money and stuff…cuz, like, these people are greedy or something? And, like, OH EM GEE, that REALLY P’s me the F off!

    But, seriously, I think we should all follow that guy from Red Eye’s strategy, and show up holding signs with random slogans. Make sure you look like every hipster ever, though. You’d stick out like a sore thumb dressing like….um….NOT a douchebag…

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    • jenk99
      Posted on October 2, 2011 at 1:23pm

      The chant:

      What do we want? We’re not sure
      When do we want it? NOW!

      It is actually sad to see these useful idiots being used this way.

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  • abbygirl1994
    Posted on October 2, 2011 at 12:38am

    Wow someone has really brainwashed these people… they think someone else is responsible for poverty and suffering… we come into the world and are suppose to be responsible for ourselves and that starts when were are accountable.. and accountable is when we know the difference between right and wrong.. is this what is wrong.. people who have not been taught what right and wrong! Do we condemn the rich because they have money.. God told us the poor would always be amongst us.. and as American’s we have helped the poor more than any other country on earth.. even our own, its called welfare.. its was suppose to be a hand up but it became a handout.. then it became a generational problem.. and here we are today with monsters who think that the rich owe even more.. but none of them seem smart enough to realize that they are doing the biddings of rich greedy men.. Wake up.. before it is to late!

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    • teamarcheson
      Posted on October 2, 2011 at 12:51am

      I think they want to die. The police need to help.

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    • Zorro6821
      Posted on October 2, 2011 at 8:46am

      Abbygirl…some else is responsible for our ills, it’s call Big Bloated Government that is out of control that destroyed this once great nation and shredded our liberties. Wakeup little girl.

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  • SPOT_OF_TEA
    Posted on October 2, 2011 at 12:37am

    A useful idiot is never told the details.

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  • Californiasodbuster
    Posted on October 2, 2011 at 12:37am

    Hey encinomike, i mean steelhead, you don’t have to worry, no good citizen will save your sorry ass when the sh;t comes down, your like a turd in a punch bowl, see you from a mile away.
    I think i know you, you live off of White oak?, or is it Reseda?

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  • Contrarian51
    Posted on October 2, 2011 at 12:33am

    When even NPR can’t find a reason to report on this, you know there’s nothing there.

    I suspect a bunch of these clowns think they want a communist system. What they don’t realize is that communism would require them to get up every day and go to their government-mandated job.

    What do you figure it smells like around there?

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  • markthespark
    Posted on October 2, 2011 at 12:22am

    These dolts deserve pity, pity for having no parents or teachers to guide them to an understanding the principals behind our Constitution. They have no message of any clarity because they have no underlying philosophy guiding their lives, they are minds without a guidebook.

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  • Ex-Democrat
    Posted on October 2, 2011 at 12:13am

    They are mostly anarchists and though they can’t voice it, they want anarchy. The reason why they can’t voice it lies in the very nature anarchy itself.

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  • SavingtheRepublic.com
    Posted on October 2, 2011 at 12:07am

    ~v~^~v~^~v~^~
    Of course they have no clue it just proves how brainless they all are. It shows how someone can just stand up shout something out and they all join but dont know why. Reminds me of the end of the movie “Billy Madison” when Sandler makes a deep speech and crowd is like uhhhh then he yells out the school team name or something and everyone goes wild. Some psyche here!

    These are the uneducated, uninformed, unengaged zombie drones who take orders. We saw it the other day with them reciting Cornell West, Oreilly and Hannity both had segments on the cluelessness of the attendees. And these drones want to rule the world. Surprised half of them know where they are and they want to shut down the system that afforded them jobs(some of them), education etc etc!

    Complete hypocrites, they do not understand it is capitalism that was the driving force behind the creation of this nation. It just wasnt people running from religious persecution, they came here to make their own way and what they earned was theirs!! Capitalism is Americas identity and they think it is destroying. No its a few behind the scenes ruining it, we need to route them out and deal with them. the system works its just malfunctioning right now and needs a reset thats all. These drones want to blow it up!
    Stop playing their game start playing their game http://SavingtheRepublic.com

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  • jaylew
    Posted on October 2, 2011 at 12:03am

    Michael Moore didn’t stay long…..there wasn’t enough food to keep his 55 gallon drum belly full. I watched a Susan Sarandon drifting nonsensical interview. She needs to eat some meat or something….she talks like a wispy vegan who is bordering on pernicious anemia and hydrocephalus.

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  • Git-R-Done
    Posted on October 1, 2011 at 11:58pm

    These protesters are nutjobs and I don’t blame businesses that choose not to hire them.

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  • SIXFRIGATES
    Posted on October 1, 2011 at 11:55pm

    “…use Mac laptops…” Ha, so stereotypical. But stereotypes are what they are for a reason.. There’s a LOT of truth in them.

    Absolutely hilarious. Hippies, clueless drones, fools, idiots…. There really isn’t an adjective to properly describe them in one word. Susan Sarandon and Michael Moore.. HAhaHaAHaAHahAHAhAHAHa.. What a load of credibility crap.

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  • Danola
    Posted on October 1, 2011 at 11:51pm

    These people have serious mental problems. There is nothing normal about what they believe, imagine, or pretend to comprehend.

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    • The10thAmendment
      Posted on October 2, 2011 at 12:00am

      Shoot these weirdo’s and get it the hell over with. I’m sick of communists, and entitlement babies. The Columbia students whining about having 130 grand in tuition debt. Um, tough crap. Wall Street didn’t cause you to incur that debt, YOU caused you to incur that debt by attending a filthy den of putrid socialists. Want pity? Take up with the pork industry. Their pigs need food, so make yourselves available. Those pigs are worth more than you are anyway.

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  • M 4 Colt
    Posted on October 1, 2011 at 11:51pm

    What do they want? That’s a simple question to answer, they want whatever their leaders tell them they want because they are unable to think for themselves and right now they want the complete and total destruction or our great Republic and i for one will stand and fight them at every turn even to the death if need be.

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  • TPaine
    Posted on October 1, 2011 at 11:42pm

    All I see is a big, obnoxious street party. Corner any of these morons and ask then why they are there, and you’re likely to get a puzzled look and a brain-freeze. After over a week, what has been accomplished? Nada! Nothing! The police have been busy, a few people have been arrested, and a few big-screen nobodys have appeared, trying to retrieve their flagging careers. I watched a segment on the news where Wall Street biggies were standing on balconies, sipping drinks and smiling at the “protesters,” more amused than bothered.

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  • vennoye
    Posted on October 1, 2011 at 11:29pm

    Déjà vu all over again???? Susan must miss the action, and Michael must be trying to find relevance!!
    They have a LONG way to go to be able to match the 60′s….hope they NEVER get there.

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  • KingDork
    Posted on October 1, 2011 at 11:27pm

    Ah lemmings doing what they do best

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  • Snowleopard {gallery of cat folks}
    Posted on October 1, 2011 at 11:25pm

    There is more going on here than meets the eye; this sounds more and more like the opening moves for a Egyptian style of uprising where the demonstrations were co-opted by the Muslum Brotherhood, and in this case would be usurped by the Progressives, Socialists and others.

    The storm is here people, and while this one may not be anything more than a flop for them, the storm is about to break in full and fury across the naiton unless God stops them.

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    • Steelhead
      Posted on October 1, 2011 at 11:48pm

      more talk about end times? keep praying the ark is being built

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    • Snowleopard {gallery of cat folks}
      Posted on October 2, 2011 at 1:03am

      @Steelhead — no not more end-times talk, I leave the timing of that for God to know. I mean the storm of change and chaos is at hand and about to break in fury. Changes around the world have shattered the old paradigms, and new ones are being forged, we can either be ready to deal with the changes, make the changes for the positive happen, or be swept away by them.

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    • Thevoice
      Posted on October 2, 2011 at 3:56am

      Yea your right…Problem is the “new age progressive” knows that their game of social engineering is over when their :god of government” runs out of funds. And they see it coming ..Now we need leadership on our side to step up and tell these morons …Sorry your ideology has bankrupted us . So whine and scream all you want …There is no more …and vote No and hell No ..Starve it ..and at the same time be men and tell all the lobbyists and special interest to pack their bag and leave Washington ..There is nothing left to give them either..And in the future failure is what it is FAILURE… Get over it…
      See all this because we as a nation could not do what was right from the outset…

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